I'd be pissed as hell if I sent my kid to school and then they come back home saying that some stranger was invited into the classroom and allowed to kiss and touch them. Get a grip lady and be respectful of other people's children.
@@subhabratadas4087 Taking unvetted strangers to a school is wrong on so many levels. Has nothing to do with culture, this is pure exploitation, exposing those kids to all kinds of miscreants.
no, when in Rome... i've brought my kids to 3rd world countries and other people touched my kids but it was normal for those cultures. just have to roll with it.
Every other black country has just as much or MORE poverty than South Africa.... why is this story being twisted in yet another "it's all whiteys fault" vibe?
@@digbyjones4203 It is whiteys fault. If we didn't massacre them, bomb their cities to shit, colonize their countries, divide up their land, sell weapons to warlords, buy diamonds form gangsters, train and fund local terrorist groups, incite mass religious unrest, kidnap thousands of locals, kill their local leaders, sponsor coups, create apartheid, steal their oil, pollute their waters, cut down their forests, drive them to poach and then kill them for doing so, force them to work in mines where the white owners get the resources they dig, then they may have a fighting chance.
@@BBxx19 Or maybe you'll benefit from expanding your worldview by reading up on genocieds and plunder on the African continent courtesy of white people; how it continues and the effects on past, present and future generations. Ignorance is a choice.
That young man said it best. "people take our pictures without our permission. We are not animals." That woman kissing those kids crossed the line 😕. She shouldn't have. Hugging or shaking hands would have been just fine.
Dakalo M eh don’t be soo sensitive lah. She’s just showing affection. If you see things from a bad perspective, you’ll only get to see the bad part of it.
@@anyaperceives While I agree the person above is absolutely wrong and ridiculous, you are no better by saying that. Also Neanderthals were just as intelligent as homosapiens in the same time period so your point is just stupid.
white leftists look down on all brown people. why do you think they break into applause when a black guy manages to finish primary school. they didnt think it could happen!
Im from south africa @ByeBitch it isnt the guys fault who does the tours coz he's putting food on the table .Im in the middle class so ive got priveliges that he doesnt have access to ...you have to do what you can around here to get your check its rough for the lower class citizens in my country
I'm South African, and I need to make a couple of points: 1) The Swiss lady is a creep and should be charged!! 2) That is not a township, its an informal settlement. Government refuse to develop informal settlements because they are either not recognised as safe for human settlement OR a result of illegal land occupation. 3) Yes, South Africa is, unfortunately, notoriously known as the most unequal country in the world; we have living standards that rival Switzerland and in the same breath those that rival the poorest countries in the world.
@Zac Crow Vice rarely reports on stuff like that to begin with. They run their articles about weirdly specific stuff but they're not the "breaking news" type.
@Zac Crow Showdown Vice News (The youtube channel) only post what Vice News (The TV Channel) has posted after a week it aired on TV, so don't expect to hear anything from Vice News for about a week.
When I was 12 years old I went to South Africa with my family. We were a group of white European tourist who went to langa township just like this family in the video. We also visited the houses and schools. And I remember feeling weird. I wanted to show these kids that I was just like them. I wanted us to feel equal. But the fact that we were giving them all kinds of gifts and taking pictures with our expensive cameras just made it impossible to give them the feeling that we are equal. It did really feel odd. I wish I could have just lived with them for a day. Played soccer together. Eat together. Not just watch and take pictures. Not treat them like a tourist attraction but Treat them like a friend. It's hard to explain. Even though we helped them by donating I felt like it gave off the wrong vibes. And I felt that even though I was just a child and did not know much about the politics and apartheid.
Everyone is judging her way too harshly, she wasn’t trying to be creepy, I think she didn’t realize what she said sounded like that. She’s just a mother who likes kids, the kids where all happy and smiling to meet her anyway, no harm done.
This reminds me of a story Trevor Noah once told about him and a group of people going on an "excursion" to the locals' home. It's crazy for first world nations to even phantom having random strangers causually drop in on an underprivileged household just so these tourists can witness their everyday life. It's disheartening but this is their reality.
I really appreciate his journalism! In my opinion he finds the perfect balance between asking the right questions and not leading the narrative too subjectively! Thank you!
Really? Because there was a black tourist interviewed in the video..... or didn't you bother watching that far before rushing to the comments to start race-baiting.
What a crock. Before settlers these people were living in huts without electricity dying from the common cold. Blame 25 years of ANC theft and corruption by your own people
Cheyno Mdingi incorrect. Your ancestors brought those diseases here. My ancestor did not care for such a lifestyle. It was forced upon them. Stop trying to speak for my people colonizer
5:30 “waterfront is fun for one day but it’s not Africa” As to say Africa cannot be developed As to say all Africa deserves is poverty THIS IS NOT OKAY
"We want to show our kids what life is like in different places." *Did you explain why life is like that for these people?* No, that is too much for them.
The same thing is done in Brazil with the favelas and it’s uncomfortable bc it is like “omg look at these people in poverty.” It’s kind of fucked Up. But not everyone comes for a bad reason, some people really do come to tour low income areas to learn about the people there and how to structurally combat poverty...but overall I think it can be done better. A historical tour of the favelas or townships where they learn about the history and sociology, etc I think could be ok...but generally only visit these neighborhoods if you organically make a friend with someone there and they take you. These areas are just neighborhoods in the cities they are a part of, they just face unique challenges compared to other neighborhoods.
Im from South Africa ,Cape Town, I’m so glad that Vice showcased what the camera doesn’t show. The margin between rich and poor especially in Cape Town is forever increasing. Most houses alongside the sea are sold to foreigners and due to that the property value is for increasing and the dream of buying a house grows further and further.
yup they would build establishments for skill training with yards and what not, at the establishment there would be a cafe where the rich would eat and observe the poor working like a zoo.
Lol. This is similar to all the American church mission trips to poverty stricken areas/countries. At least this guy has found a way to use the tourist business for his advantage.
@@Xainfinen In America French guys are stereotypicaly shown wearing that exact shirt, even in cartoons, and then this French guy is actually wearing one. I want to say it's ironic but I'm not sure if that's the right word?
This is actually where I was born and raised I grew up here and always felt very weird when you see tour busses and people taking pictures of us playing.today I live and work in Dubai my life has taken a full 360 turn I’ve pushed myself from seeing all these people coming from better backgrounds. Every year I go back home and as the tour guide says the townships are about culture I could afford to stay in the poshest of hotels when I visit home but I stay in the township as that feeling can not be replaced or copied I hope when you all watch this short story you don’t look down on us and rather appreciate how these people open their homes to strangers and allow them to feel at home even if it’s just for a few minutes. South Africa is a country of many stories choose the one you want visit and experience it
I felt extremely uncomfortable with what the Swiss lady said.. You don't touch children? She kissed these kids! Fist time I see such a weird person.. Suspicious
Wow, this made me uncomfortable. I'm sure there are good motives to visit these places, but the second I see a camera, all I can think is this will be some white person's inspirational instagram post
For people who don’t get why it’s extremely creepy and wrong for the Swiss lady to so cavalierly kiss and touch all the schoolchildren, it’s very bad to accustom these children to the idea of compromising or sublimating physical boundaries in the expectation that freely engaging in physical affection with strangers will lead to donations or improvement of material conditions for their parents and community. They should be focused on learning, not worried about performing cuteness and innocence as they intuit that to be the expectation reinforced by the adults around them. This habit will also make the kids more vulnerable to predators, as they’ll potentially tolerate abusive treatment, exploitation, and boundary violation from more explicitly bad actors if they feel a sense of duty to their family to prioritize the potential for earning money.
My thoughts exactly. This practice crosses their personal space. They should be learning how to set proper boundaries, wtf. As much as I would love to cuddle them too because children are the cutest, I wouldn’t dare to touch them. Gosh, people are so self centered thinking they are giving some kind of love nobody asked them to give
"I'll go to USA, my brother and go to places you would never go" wow, he hit the nail on the head. Stop dramatizing foreign cultural and take a look at the mirror.
The reason white South Africans don't go there is because they want to avoid the reality of what they and their ancestors did. White Europeans go there to feel better about themselves and their crappy lives in Europe. I don't think a black American relates to either of those
I as a south african hate poverty tourism,they send a wrong message about south africa South african towships are vibrant,living,great lifestyle,yes poverty is part of the architecture but not who we are,we do not let the poverty stand in our way We are proud people,we love our townships
There is a slum here in Los Angeles. and it is a hundred times more dirty than that of South Africa. but someone can explain to me why European tourists when they come to los angeles they do not want to see the los angles slums??? at least those in southern Africa have a roof .. those in los angeles have no roof live and shit and urinate in the street and the city does not want to do anything..and im from los angeles!.. united states has more homeless than any country in africa..
byron ellington Los angles is a first world city with first world problems South Africa has a murder rate of 56 per 100,000 ... the USA has a murder rate of 5.5 per 100,000
byron ellington this area they went to is called "cape flats" it is one small area of a city and in ONE weekend that area had 21 murders .. 21 murders in one area of a city in one weekend
Apparently they do this is Brazil as well. My friend went to a language school in Rio and she said favela tours were part of the extra-curricular activities for students.
It's been 25 years since Nelson Mandela came into power and the end of the apartheid. In post-apartheid South Africa, Most government roles and the police have been filled by blacks but unemployment has been extremely high as the country has struggled with many changes. While many blacks have risen to middle or upper classes, the overall unemployment rate of black people worsened between 1994 and 2003 by official metrics, but declined significantly using expanded definitions. Poverty among whites, previously rare, increased.
A lot of white travelers believe non-white people are more "authentic" if they're extremely poor. They want to feel like they're having the same experience a 18th century British explorer had. They feel the way to achieve that is by going poverty sight seeing. Being among middle class or wealthy non-white people isn't good enough. They won't acknowledge it, but that is how they think. Also it's the goal of every white traveler to be the first white person that a non-white person has ever seen. Higher odds of achieving that in a really poor area.
I don’t understand why people come to Africa and avoid the fancy parts and the well developed parts of it .. instead they want to go to slumps and visit slumps ? I’m a South African after watching this video I feel insulted because they think they have went on an African tour .. ! Africa is not the same Africa it was 100 years ago !! We have developed and people are so ignorant to the point that they spend money to come see poor parts of Africa , every country has a rich and poor area reason because of the segregation’s that we why through decades ago ! Now going deeper into what I’m saying ( why would European people come to Africa to see the effect of their work ?) it’s like , they enjoy seeing us suffering .. and we are not !! We are not !! They chose to go to slumps and that’s what makes them happy
Let's keep it real for a second. The living conditions for many black people in SA could be better. It's worse in other African countries (like Burundi and Liberia) so why not show that too? In Brazil they literally hide those places like they did during the World Cup and I think that's even worse. Let them see both.
Not true...being the only black in a group in public means you'll just have random people ask you to buy marijuana. It's assumed that black = drugs in America. Studying for college finals in public WITH a backpack and books WITH non black friends= you look like a drug dealer and may be asked by a white person to sell them drugs or where to buy it. 🇺🇸 So, Im thinking they would assume any of those blacks were drug dealers. At least the American tourists...
I'm not sure if this type of "tourism" is bad and should be classified as "poverty porn", mainly because it is true that everyone should have an idea of how it is to live in poverty and that not everyone has access to the same opportunities. I believe this tour will change the Swiss kid perspective of the world, and hopefully make him a better man. This is just the reality and all of us should be aware of it.
What are they supposed to do? Give half of their savings away? This is tourism, a fair exchange (the tour, souvenirs ecc. for some money). It's not supposed to be a hand-out
@@shabbytwo1787 "I don't ask, I just go to any house and they allow me". By that he means that people just let his tour in their houses without having to ask permission before; i.e. they're so much in favor of this, they just allow these tourists in as soon as they show up on their front porch. It's not as if these guys storm in the locals' homes without telling them.
i wish you would of also talked of all the NGO's that come down here and mess around with our economy while providing an easy way for our government to ignore poverty
The effects of bad policy, such as colonialism, slavery, Apartheid etc, will continue to be felt. What amazes me is the people of affected populaces. They're awesome.
It might seem weird but I think this is alright. It exposes foreigners and tourists to SOME reality of poverty in Africa, not just the nice upscale towns. If they truly want to help they can contribute to nonprofits within the slums or even try to start one with the help or the tour guide. Annnd they should treat everyone with more respect and not go around taking pictures without permission, I think that should be part of the "tour rules "
White people keep saving africa since the 80s with aid supllies and medical programs. the result 400 million people population in 1980 to 1200 million today. great success!!!!
Ok first off there was something a bit shady about some of the characters here. That being said, I don't see anything wrong with the concept of a tour of visiting any neighborhood, whether rich or poor, so long as it's not intrusive. If the money actually goes to the community, that's the best as it is win-win. Probably my favorite activity I did in Medellin was visiting this "favela" called Communa 13. You get to see how people in the slums live, learn about their culture, and contribute to their community - rather than just visiting the same old rich touristy areas that everyone else visits - is that really such a bad thing?
Those people did not have to travel across the globe to see poverty, its everywhere. They could have traveled to Downtown Los Angeles or the Florida panhandle. Homeless and tent city is all over the United States. Then to show up there with no care packages, Just Rude.
I went to South Africa in a similar township tour. I didn't take any pictures, but I did interact and try to spend a reasonable amount of money to the local people.
Exploitation, he explained how the tour guide doesn't even ask to come into homes before hand. The only advantage some might get is donations from the foreigners.
@@sandhyamathura they're happy to have tourists, just dont like when they take photos. if i was them, i'd get extremely pissed but you got to admit that this guy is a smart business man.
Is this place actually a product of apartheid or merely just poverty and unemployment? I've seen lots of videos of SA and I've never seen people living like this until now
Zach T Our townships are largely former “Bantustans” created in the apartheid era (areas designated for black people to inhabit). Unfortunately, it’s the poverty and unemployment that has kept people there post-apartheid.
@@pelomk9022 Please read what I said. I didn't say we didn't have them, I said we don't refer to them as SLUMs. Angithi I am not from SA and wena wazi wonke umuntu wase mzani.
Imagine, if you're ancestors said that you wouldn't be here. just because they are in poverty now dosnt mean future generations wouldn't find solutions. I had those kind of thoughts but they're slowing changing now. You have to understand that you're not the sustainer of you're on existence let alone of others.
@ Life is durable enough. If only the well off had kids what a deprived world this would be; think about all the genius that's come from adverse upbringing (weigh that against what genius comes from the opposite end of that financial spectrum). It is not stupid to desire family when poor. Arguments for eugenics cloak themselves in pedestrian logic. It is okay to choose not to have kids too.
Kikuyu Kiiru Oh shut up. There are many black African doctors, lawyers, engineers, and Harvard graduates. Keep living in your fairy tale world, where white people are magically superior to everyone else. Imbecile.
I never understand it with Brasil as well , it’s like they want to validate themselves and look at people and think "oh how amazing my life is because I am not poor" and forgets that poor people have pride too , they are not animals and the place where they live is not a zoo and this whole shit is not a safari either
@Showdown europe wont exist then. When the white men vanished, the yellow men is going to continue. But you have to know that chinese are by far more racist. Europe in this actual days is just Babylon 2.0 I personally smell a feeling of the last days since 2014.
@Showdown i merely believe that the USA was just an experiment to see if it does work on a bigger landmass. Yes, the building of the EU comission is looking like the tower of Babel. Strange shit.
As a South African this clip only shows a slanted view of the really REAL South Africa, it's been 25 years of ANC rule in South Africa and "squatter camps" or slums as this clip says are increasing. This tour was only taken to Kyalitsha but nowhere near the Cape flats because that'd show that slums are not just black in South Africa but there are also mixed race and white slums as well. It wouldn't tell how Cape Town and it's surrounding areas are now South Africa's murder and crime capital with up to 245 murders per 100 00 people per year, drugs is out of control and gang shootings are constant. Ambulances have to go to police stations to get police escorts to answer calls in many areas especially at night and many paramedics have themselves either been stabbed or shot on scene. It doesn't show how there is a crumbling police force that is under manned and under resourced and in many areas corrupt. It doesn't show how paranoid we are because of crime with high walls, barbed wire, electric fences and 24hr response security because house breakings often turn aggresively violent and car jacking is everyday. 25 years of ANC rule and poverty is higher, infrastructure is crumbling and the ANC is keeping the nepotism healthy. In the past year attacks on foreign tourists have increased massively and that is actually as they're leaving the airport. South Africa is not the place everyone thinks, it's 2019 not 1994 things are not all Nelson Mandela anymore and apartheid was a quarter century ago.
Pure exploitation, the world really is racing to the bottom. This tour guide is exposing these poor people, especially those kids to so many dangers, not to mention the human zoo effect, sickening. What the hell is that school thinking letting unvetted strangers rock up every day?!!! Truly disturbing. At least if this tour guide was helping the poor people in the townships to set up home bars and food places they could make a living and improve their living conditions. Really losing my faith in humanity!
same thing in india the foreigners just love Dharavi,Mumbai.they barge into random peoples homes to see "slums".they are peoples homes.those people work hard to make a living they dont want your fake pity.just leave them alone
"We are not animals, we are human beings"
And they cut him off quick asf
I'd be pissed as hell if I sent my kid to school and then they come back home saying that some stranger was invited into the classroom and allowed to kiss and touch them. Get a grip lady and be respectful of other people's children.
wtf thats the difference between europe and america. u guys are mad for nothing. I don't see anything wrong with this
That school really shouldn't allow strangers into that school! This is reckless!
Maybe experience a culture before criticizing it? Adust your lense a bit?
@@subhabratadas4087 Taking unvetted strangers to a school is wrong on so many levels. Has nothing to do with culture, this is pure exploitation, exposing those kids to all kinds of miscreants.
Oh look at me I got a picture with loads of African school kids, she’s so hip
Facebook mom posting a picture with South African children: look how good I am
Alfonso G what do evangelist and brown people gotta do with this?
@@Onneukbaar Because that's what happened there historically ....
Its called poverty porn
Suburbanite progressive wearing a hijab and posting a selfie from the latest corporate sponsored hashtag protest: look how woke I am.
I mean if they legit gave them money and stuff then at least it's something
"In Switzerland, you cannot touch kids". I feel very unconfortable. Treat kids in their own country, the way you treat yours in your country.
Unless you treat the kids in your country badly, then the opposite
@@calebcruz2812 true
Exactly
no, when in Rome...
i've brought my kids to 3rd world countries and other people touched my kids but it was normal for those cultures. just have to roll with it.
She wanted to pet them...
"Poverty Porn" Gotta let that one sink in.
Every other black country has just as much or MORE poverty than South Africa.... why is this story being twisted in yet another "it's all whiteys fault" vibe?
@@digbyjones4203 It is whiteys fault. If we didn't massacre them, bomb their cities to shit, colonize their countries, divide up their land, sell weapons to warlords, buy diamonds form gangsters, train and fund local terrorist groups, incite mass religious unrest, kidnap thousands of locals, kill their local leaders, sponsor coups, create apartheid, steal their oil, pollute their waters, cut down their forests, drive them to poach and then kill them for doing so, force them to work in mines where the white owners get the resources they dig, then they may have a fighting chance.
@@digbyjones4203 sounds like you're ignorant about Africa's history.
@@BBxx19 Or maybe you'll benefit from expanding your worldview by reading up on genocieds and plunder on the African continent courtesy of white people; how it continues and the effects on past, present and future generations. Ignorance is a choice.
Yeh that was a poignant remark & on point
That Swiss lady seemed creepy as hell.
Sir Amic Varze poor choice of word. I wouldn’t judge someone on one sentence.
I’m sure English isn’t her first language. She seems kind and just trying to spread love to these poor kids. She’s a wonderful role model to her Son.
@Alfonso G what she meant by that?
Mike I really don’t think so fam lol
She was kissing them, but because she’s female it’s okay hahaha. Disgusting
Culture tours are so freaking strange. It's weird.
Especially if you're taking pictures like you're on safari.
😂 😂 😂
LOL they fun
Me : chill in the house .
Tourists rush in.
Me : wtf.
@Red Carded Same
That young man said it best. "people take our pictures without our permission. We are not animals." That woman kissing those kids crossed the line 😕. She shouldn't have. Hugging or shaking hands would have been just fine.
Dakalo M eh don’t be soo sensitive lah. She’s just showing affection. If you see things from a bad perspective, you’ll only get to see the bad part of it.
Derry Darmawan these people are never satisfied. not caring about african children = triggered. hugging and kidding them = triggered
Whats wrong with hugging kids
That school shouldn't let strangers there in the first place. That is utterly wrong.
@@MsTishalish it seems to be a win for both the guests and the kids. it just is a culture not like yours.
"In Switzerland, you can't touch kids"
So what the hell makes you think you can come to Africa and touch these kids?? These people are sick...
ha relax
100% correct. This shit is SICK.
Wtf they're not in a zoo these are real people
@Abraham Shekelbergstien u disgust me
@@anyaperceives
While I agree the person above is absolutely wrong and ridiculous, you are no better by saying that. Also Neanderthals were just as intelligent as homosapiens in the same time period so your point is just stupid.
white leftists look down on all brown people. why do you think they break into applause when a black guy manages to finish primary school. they didnt think it could happen!
This has been happening for long time. In 1950s-80s they used to travel South Asia(India, Bangladesh, Srilanka, Nepal) for poverty tourism.
Im from south africa @ByeBitch it isnt the guys fault who does the tours coz he's putting food on the table .Im in the middle class so ive got priveliges that he doesnt have access to ...you have to do what you can around here to get your check its rough for the lower class citizens in my country
And that lady kissing the kids, that was weird, right?
Yep
Parodist very weird indeed 😕
Yeah kinda , i was like hold up.
If she was male she would be going to prison
Agreed
I'm South African, and I need to make a couple of points:
1) The Swiss lady is a creep and should be charged!!
2) That is not a township, its an informal settlement. Government refuse to develop informal settlements because they are either not recognised as safe for human settlement OR a result of illegal land occupation.
3) Yes, South Africa is, unfortunately, notoriously known as the most unequal country in the world; we have living standards that rival Switzerland and in the same breath those that rival the poorest countries in the world.
Sounds like Miami.
I am South African 🇿🇦 and I can confirm Keitumetse's statement(s).✅️ Also, yes that Swiss 🇨🇭 lady is scaley AF.🤨🙄😶
4:23 describes exactly how I felt watching this
What kind of creepy peado shit i that?
Forreal
judd stoned apparently you care enough to comment hahahahah
@JB JG Whi.te Fragi.lity.
@@blaccolive365 He was the first one to break them in
Yoo that Switzerland lady creepy
Really ducking creepy
Vice do a video on the massacre in Sudan
That would be journalism.
Corrosion37 it's still a massacre
@Zac Crow Vice rarely reports on stuff like that to begin with. They run their articles about weirdly specific stuff but they're not the "breaking news" type.
@Zac Crow Showdown Vice News (The youtube channel) only post what Vice News (The TV Channel) has posted after a week it aired on TV, so don't expect to hear anything from Vice News for about a week.
vice does videos on the parts of the world the rest of the media doesn't show I doubt they'd make one
"Cool beans! Cool banana!"
"cooooooooooollllll beeeeaaannnsss!Cccooooolll Bbbaaannnaaannnnaaaa!"
Wakanda in the nutshell
@@wolfinthesuit ....Turtle Power!
Spat out my beer when he said that
I’m South African, I always say that😂 didn’t realize how funny it sounds
When I was 12 years old I went to South Africa with my family. We were a group of white European tourist who went to langa township just like this family in the video. We also visited the houses and schools. And I remember feeling weird. I wanted to show these kids that I was just like them. I wanted us to feel equal. But the fact that we were giving them all kinds of gifts and taking pictures with our expensive cameras just made it impossible to give them the feeling that we are equal. It did really feel odd. I wish I could have just lived with them for a day. Played soccer together. Eat together. Not just watch and take pictures. Not treat them like a tourist attraction but Treat them like a friend. It's hard to explain. Even though we helped them by donating I felt like it gave off the wrong vibes. And I felt that even though I was just a child and did not know much about the politics and apartheid.
Younger a genuine soul' my friend, Genuine soul!
That swiss tourist was creepy AF.....
Lol she better consider herself lucky none their mamas were around!
@Abraham Shekelbergstien where people go missing ....
Everyone is judging her way too harshly, she wasn’t trying to be creepy, I think she didn’t realize what she said sounded like that. She’s just a mother who likes kids, the kids where all happy and smiling to meet her anyway, no harm done.
This reminds me of a story Trevor Noah once told about him and a group of people going on an "excursion" to the locals' home. It's crazy for first world nations to even phantom having random strangers causually drop in on an underprivileged household just so these tourists can witness their everyday life. It's disheartening but this is their reality.
I really appreciate his journalism! In my opinion he finds the perfect balance between asking the right questions and not leading the narrative too subjectively! Thank you!
meanwhile my black friends go to South Africa for the Beaches and luxurious resorts
Of course. You go to see what is new. Slums for them are not new.
@@hollyfieldnkwanui5567 ^ Holy racist
@@titanswin472 not really =/
Really? Because there was a black tourist interviewed in the video..... or didn't you bother watching that far before rushing to the comments to start race-baiting.
@Shard 308 I am black (African American), and traveled to South Africa last month with my university. I am also not from the slums whatsoever.
Imagine going to places like this to photograph your ancestor's handiwork
What a crock. Before settlers these people were living in huts without electricity dying from the common cold. Blame 25 years of ANC theft and corruption by your own people
Queen of Africa. Don't talk bull. This is the handiwork of the black Government of 25 years.
They take your land and wealth and then laugh at you when you have little left
Cheyno Mdingi incorrect. Your ancestors brought those diseases here. My ancestor did not care for such a lifestyle. It was forced upon them. Stop trying to speak for my people colonizer
Julius Maehlich yeah they created the townships
5:30 “waterfront is fun for one day but it’s not Africa”
As to say Africa cannot be developed
As to say all Africa deserves is poverty
THIS IS NOT OKAY
"We want to show our kids what life is like in different places."
*Did you explain why life is like that for these people?* No, that is too much for them.
My thought exactly
The same thing is done in Brazil with the favelas and it’s uncomfortable bc it is like “omg look at these people in poverty.” It’s kind of fucked Up. But not everyone comes for a bad reason, some people really do come to tour low income areas to learn about the people there and how to structurally combat poverty...but overall I think it can be done better. A historical tour of the favelas or townships where they learn about the history and sociology, etc I think could be ok...but generally only visit these neighborhoods if you organically make a friend with someone there and they take you. These areas are just neighborhoods in the cities they are a part of, they just face unique challenges compared to other neighborhoods.
Love your channel Menino Jake about Brazil, i agree with what you have to say.
Im from South Africa ,Cape Town, I’m so glad that Vice showcased what the camera doesn’t show. The margin between rich and poor especially in Cape Town is forever increasing. Most houses alongside the sea are sold to foreigners and due to that the property value is for increasing and the dream of buying a house grows further and further.
They are coming to see the destruction they caused first hand. This is sick
Then when they get robbed for being over there they be like "OMG i can belive this happend to me"
Yes ,it's all good until a ransom kidnapping happens lol
@88Gibson LesPaul You don't people learning? Case closed
@Siobhan Cullen just like all white communist russia?
88Gibson LesPaul I’m sure before whites people arrived they were all living in mansions right?
@@W..949 No but hey who needs such wonders like freedom, happiness and culture when you have a mansion right. You unconscious cockroach
this happened in london during 19th century.
yup they would build establishments for skill training with yards and what not, at the establishment there would be a cafe where the rich would eat and observe the poor working like a zoo.
Muslims.
Very interesting. If you have a link about this part of London history, please share.
It still happens in certain parts Europe ...
Don’t forget that America in the 1930’s deported their own people by the millions and some were repatriated not all
Lol. This is similar to all the American church mission trips to poverty stricken areas/countries. At least this guy has found a way to use the tourist business for his advantage.
French guys are really out here wearing black striped white T shirts 😂 Hilarious
How's that hilarious? I don't get it.
@@Xainfinen In America French guys are stereotypicaly shown wearing that exact shirt, even in cartoons, and then this French guy is actually wearing one. I want to say it's ironic but I'm not sure if that's the right word?
@@lambro3001 Oh yeah! The stereotypical French guy with the beret, red wine & baguettes how could I forget that. That's pretty ironic indeed.
He needed a baguette under each arm and a bicycle.
”French”
This is actually where I was born and raised I grew up here and always felt very weird when you see tour busses and people taking pictures of us playing.today I live and work in Dubai my life has taken a full 360 turn I’ve pushed myself from seeing all these people coming from better backgrounds. Every year I go back home and as the tour guide says the townships are about culture I could afford to stay in the poshest of hotels when I visit home but I stay in the township as that feeling can not be replaced or copied I hope when you all watch this short story you don’t look down on us and rather appreciate how these people open their homes to strangers and allow them to feel at home even if it’s just for a few minutes. South Africa is a country of many stories choose the one you want visit and experience it
That tour guide is shady
Heck yeah
Super exploitative
Pussies lol
He’s trying to make money.
OMG wait until Trevor Noah gets light about this 😹
Trevor Noah is a known racist though, not sure his opinion would be relevant, he does comedy routines where he refers to aboriginal women as "ugly"
Trevor Noah probably now joins these people on these "tours"
hamish themack wonder why
@@thejquinn figures, his dad is a white guy from Switzerland
OMG YASSSS Me too! Then I'll know what my opinion about this is supposed to be. Can't wait! I love having opinions! :)
The last minute of the video was crazy insightful! The tour guide is a wise man: paraphrasing: "We ignore the problems in our own backyards"
That's my issues with a lot of Europeans they visit a developing country and they treat the people in those countries like animals
I felt extremely uncomfortable with what the Swiss lady said.. You don't touch children? She kissed these kids! Fist time I see such a weird person.. Suspicious
Wow, this made me uncomfortable. I'm sure there are good motives to visit these places, but the second I see a camera, all I can think is this will be some white person's inspirational instagram post
Let's go on a safari tour, and exploit human misery
The guy said what I was thinking, it's like a human zoo for tourists.
For people who don’t get why it’s extremely creepy and wrong for the Swiss lady to so cavalierly kiss and touch all the schoolchildren, it’s very bad to accustom these children to the idea of compromising or sublimating physical boundaries in the expectation that freely engaging in physical affection with strangers will lead to donations or improvement of material conditions for their parents and community. They should be focused on learning, not worried about performing cuteness and innocence as they intuit that to be the expectation reinforced by the adults around them. This habit will also make the kids more vulnerable to predators, as they’ll potentially tolerate abusive treatment, exploitation, and boundary violation from more explicitly bad actors if they feel a sense of duty to their family to prioritize the potential for earning money.
My thoughts exactly. This practice crosses their personal space. They should be learning how to set proper boundaries, wtf. As much as I would love to cuddle them too because children are the cutest, I wouldn’t dare to touch them. Gosh, people are so self centered thinking they are giving some kind of love nobody asked them to give
The French tourist you interviewed was a very black-looking White European.
It happens lol
He said his mom was from Senegal Africa
charmaine jangano - so?
@@danidejaneiro8378 so that's why he is black looking
charmaine jangano ......so? How is that relevant yo my original comment?
"I'll go to USA, my brother and go to places you would never go" wow, he hit the nail on the head. Stop dramatizing foreign cultural and take a look at the mirror.
The reason white South Africans don't go there is because they want to avoid the reality of what they and their ancestors did. White Europeans go there to feel better about themselves and their crappy lives in Europe. I don't think a black American relates to either of those
In Switzerland you can't touche kids, because it's called child abuse, so we fly to South African townships to do that🙄🙄
Yes, that's literally it. Same with pedos that go to SE Asia
Taking pictures with random people for no reason has to be the strangest 21st century trend I've ever seen.
Please tell me I'm not the only one that saw the "in Switzerland you can't touch kids" woman kissing the kid in the mouth at 4:01...
I as a south african hate poverty tourism,they send a wrong message about south africa
South african towships are vibrant,living,great lifestyle,yes poverty is part of the architecture but not who we are,we do not let the poverty stand in our way
We are proud people,we love our townships
And this is not even a township it's more like a squatter camp and I stay in the township but I see this kind of life on tv
@@diggergrocky9761 which township do you live in where there are no shacks nearby (even if you live in the suburban part)?🤨
There is a slum here in Los Angeles. and it is a hundred times more dirty than that of South Africa.
but someone can explain to me why European tourists when they come to los angeles they do not want to see the los angles slums???
at least those in southern Africa have a roof .. those in los angeles have no roof live and shit and urinate in the street and the city does not want to do anything..and im from los angeles!..
united states has more homeless than any country in africa..
Are u talking about Skid Row? Yea its hella bad over there i used to go there and volunteer at the midnight mission i seen a lot of crazy shit
Because you have one slum in a country 10x bigger then South Africa
HTK Eli skid row is not a slum it is a street full of homeless people please relax
byron ellington Los angles is a first world city with first world problems South Africa has a murder rate of 56 per 100,000 ... the USA has a murder rate of 5.5 per 100,000
byron ellington this area they went to is called "cape flats" it is one small area of a city and in ONE weekend that area had 21 murders .. 21 murders in one area of a city in one weekend
got to get that insta photo amirite?
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Lmao
Apparently they do this is Brazil as well. My friend went to a language school in Rio and she said favela tours were part of the extra-curricular activities for students.
4:15 "just touch them" lmaooooooo
@@izzyNFT69 I don't think it's that deep lmao
BTW aren't there ghettos in their own countries?? 🤣
Not all countries have them acctually.
@@youspilledthis like ? And if your country is smaller than Rhode island it dont count.
@@youspilledthis I find it very hard to believe that neither Switzerland or France has a ghetto.
I don't think Switzerland has ghettos.
Switzerland doesn't. France has them now from all the African migrants
To feel better about themselves.
Guide will not say too much about apartheid because it will hurt white people's feelings.
These are the left-wingers who have been brainwashed to have white-guilt.
@@whattaboy209 Well said my frend. Love the profile picture tho
It’s like those people going to North Korea. I can be really interesting but it feel really weird and like exploiting people there.
Hey Prison Mike, ever been to a South prison?
That South African elite need to go on this tour actually
no they want to so how rainbow nation turned out.
The South African elite don’t need this tour... they know what’s happening in the slums.
I agree, they should go there every day.
The elite are mainly white people 👌🏽😏
Can't blame the guy. Those slums exist and our entrepreneur exists because the politicians in SA failed. I should do ghetto tours USA.
Ours don't look that bad. Ppl aren't without water, electricity unless they can't pay it.
It's been 25 years since Nelson Mandela came into power and the end of the apartheid. In post-apartheid South Africa, Most government roles and the police have been filled by blacks but unemployment has been extremely high as the country has struggled with many changes. While many blacks have risen to middle or upper classes, the overall unemployment rate of black people worsened between 1994 and 2003 by official metrics, but declined significantly using expanded definitions. Poverty among whites, previously rare, increased.
"Cool beans cool bananas" 😁😁.. I think I like this Mzu fellow. 😄😄
A lot of white travelers believe non-white people are more "authentic" if they're extremely poor. They want to feel like they're having the same experience a 18th century British explorer had. They feel the way to achieve that is by going poverty sight seeing. Being among middle class or wealthy non-white people isn't good enough. They won't acknowledge it, but that is how they think. Also it's the goal of every white traveler to be the first white person that a non-white person has ever seen. Higher odds of achieving that in a really poor area.
Well, i guess I found my new business, guided tours of the hood.
Might have something there. Really.
unironically you could make a lot of money off some stupid rich white liberals
@@rookki wouldn't that be quite a niche market?
A few years ago I heard there was a similar operation in Compton, CA.
Imagine some tourists coming to your neighborhood and taking photos of your laundries that you hung out.
The title makes no sense, how do you say white tourists, when in the video there are two black tourist, these been the French guy and the presenter.
Well done Vice. Reporter asked very good questions!!
This is disturbing. I guess they can go home and feel real good about their own lives. Sorry this is just wicked.
I don’t understand why people come to Africa and avoid the fancy parts and the well developed parts of it .. instead they want to go to slumps and visit slumps ? I’m a South African after watching this video I feel insulted because they think they have went on an African tour .. ! Africa is not the same Africa it was 100 years ago !! We have developed and people are so ignorant to the point that they spend money to come see poor parts of Africa , every country has a rich and poor area reason because of the segregation’s that we why through decades ago ! Now going deeper into what I’m saying ( why would European people come to Africa to see the effect of their work ?) it’s like , they enjoy seeing us suffering .. and we are not !! We are not !! They chose to go to slumps and that’s what makes them happy
They had and you guys shared it with them so they kept it a secret to build their kingdom there just like you gave to the chinese.
Let's keep it real for a second. The living conditions for many black people in SA could be better. It's worse in other African countries (like Burundi and Liberia) so why not show that too? In Brazil they literally hide those places like they did during the World Cup and I think that's even worse. Let them see both.
they want to buy weed
Gotta get that Durban Poison
More like that cough syrup and cocaine.
Not true...being the only black in a group in public means you'll just have random people ask you to buy marijuana. It's assumed that black = drugs in America. Studying for college finals in public WITH a backpack and books WITH non black friends= you look like a drug dealer and may be asked by a white person to sell them drugs or where to buy it. 🇺🇸 So, Im thinking they would assume any of those blacks were drug dealers. At least the American tourists...
They want mandrax aka quaaludes
@@pambisugar8286 Dude, its a fact in SA. If you want weed you ask a black guy. If he doesn't have he can usually point you to someone that does
Im from South Africa: That tour guide is right, he can see the problem and knows this will never change..
"Poverty Porn" well damn. Cool video though
Abraham Shekelbergstien for the purpose to inform...he is not there to be a tourist
@@gustavogoikoetxea4524 the tour isn't educating the true nature of SA? Both the tourist companies and Vice are both profiting
Traplover7 Vice May be profiting...and I guess I should have asked who do you think is doing the same...I’m talking about the reporter.
Cool beans was something my mother said back in 90’s
Africans are behind
To see what Europe will be like in 50 years
@Sophie Scholl he is actually right you fool.
I'm not sure if this type of "tourism" is bad and should be classified as "poverty porn", mainly because it is true that everyone should have an idea of how it is to live in poverty and that not everyone has access to the same opportunities. I believe this tour will change the Swiss kid perspective of the world, and hopefully make him a better man. This is just the reality and all of us should be aware of it.
I don't like this..... unless you're contributing to real change. Not just a few coins here and there to buy a souvenir🤷🏾🤷🏾
What are they supposed to do? Give half of their savings away? This is tourism, a fair exchange (the tour, souvenirs ecc. for some money). It's not supposed to be a hand-out
@@Teenar99 personal opinion. Especially when the tour guy is saying that he does not ask for permission to enter people's homes.
@@shabbytwo1787 "I don't ask, I just go to any house and they allow me". By that he means that people just let his tour in their houses without having to ask permission before; i.e. they're so much in favor of this, they just allow these tourists in as soon as they show up on their front porch.
It's not as if these guys storm in the locals' homes without telling them.
I can tell you that "a few coins" actually can be a lot of money, I tell you this because in my country there is the same situation..
@death eater
Why haven't you ate death yet?
Yo ngl that tour guide is smart as hell tacking paying attention of how to get tourists to come back and market to them. Hes has the best move
i wish you would of also talked of all the NGO's that come down here and mess around with our economy while providing an easy way for our government to ignore poverty
The effects of bad policy, such as colonialism, slavery, Apartheid etc, will continue to be felt. What amazes me is the people of affected populaces. They're awesome.
It might seem weird but I think this is alright. It exposes foreigners and tourists to SOME reality of poverty in Africa, not just the nice upscale towns. If they truly want to help they can contribute to nonprofits within the slums or even try to start one with the help or the tour guide. Annnd they should treat everyone with more respect and not go around taking pictures without permission, I think that should be part of the "tour rules "
White people keep saving africa since the 80s with aid supllies and medical programs. the result 400 million people population in 1980 to 1200 million today. great success!!!!
@@farkasabel also selling guns to miltia to use for genocide
Mzu Lembeni, the tour guide, seems like a very wise man. Some of the things he said showed a deep understanding of human nature.
"WHITE european tourists" *shows black french tourist*
well played vice, you just have to make it about race again.
Oof
Hipster sjws
preach
Focus on the Tolkien, ignore the dozens of whites in the video. I've won Apologist Bingo!
Dude, it’s about the overall pattern of exploitation stemming from colonialism and apartheid. Like, work on yer comprehension skills
Ok first off there was something a bit shady about some of the characters here.
That being said, I don't see anything wrong with the concept of a tour of visiting any neighborhood, whether rich or poor, so long as it's not intrusive. If the money actually goes to the community, that's the best as it is win-win. Probably my favorite activity I did in Medellin was visiting this "favela" called Communa 13. You get to see how people in the slums live, learn about their culture, and contribute to their community - rather than just visiting the same old rich touristy areas that everyone else visits - is that really such a bad thing?
110% respect for that tour guide, he gets what he's doing.
Those people did not have to travel across the globe to see poverty, its everywhere. They could have traveled to Downtown Los Angeles or the Florida panhandle. Homeless and tent city is all over the United States. Then to show up there with no care packages, Just Rude.
Truth Hurts they’re not American lol
That Switz woman gaves me the creepy jeepers
It is illegal in some European countries to photograph kids without their parents permission, but African children are fair game mxm
"Why *European tourists" fixed that for you
I went to South Africa in a similar township tour. I didn't take any pictures, but I did interact and try to spend a reasonable amount of money to the local people.
This reminds me of the tour buses that would go through the neighborhoods damaged my Hurricane Katrina.
This just can't be true... The "Motherland" where all the Kings & Queens come from is over 50% poverty stricken. Hmmm say it isn't so
Your an idiot.
So do the locals get paid by the tour agents ? Or is this exploitation?
Exploitation, he explained how the tour guide doesn't even ask to come into homes before hand. The only advantage some might get is donations from the foreigners.
Locals don't get shit from the so-called tour guide.
@@sandhyamathura they're happy to have tourists, just dont like when they take photos. if i was them, i'd get extremely pissed but you got to admit that this guy is a smart business man.
Did the school ask for permission from parents to allow people to come touch their children & take pictures of them?
4:10 could be veryyy misinterpreted.....
This tour guide is shady af. We don't refer to these places as slums btw. - An Actual South African.
Is this place actually a product of apartheid or merely just poverty and unemployment? I've seen lots of videos of SA and I've never seen people living like this until now
Zach T Our townships are largely former “Bantustans” created in the apartheid era (areas designated for black people to inhabit). Unfortunately, it’s the poverty and unemployment that has kept people there post-apartheid.
Zach T You clearly don't live in South Africa not know much about it. The so called slums have been there since apartheid.
@@pelomk9022 Please read what I said. I didn't say we didn't have them, I said we don't refer to them as SLUMs. Angithi I am not from SA and wena wazi wonke umuntu wase mzani.
If I lived there I wouldn’t have children, don’t want to expose them to that quality of life.
Imagine, if you're ancestors said that you wouldn't be here. just because they are in poverty now dosnt mean future generations wouldn't find solutions. I had those kind of thoughts but they're slowing changing now. You have to understand that you're not the sustainer of you're on existence let alone of others.
@ Life is durable enough. If only the well off had kids what a deprived world this would be; think about all the genius that's come from adverse upbringing (weigh that against what genius comes from the opposite end of that financial spectrum).
It is not stupid to desire family when poor.
Arguments for eugenics cloak themselves in pedestrian logic. It is okay to choose not to have kids too.
Kikuyu Kiiru Oh shut up. There are many black African doctors, lawyers, engineers, and Harvard graduates. Keep living in your fairy tale world, where white people are magically superior to everyone else. Imbecile.
I never understand it with Brasil as well , it’s like they want to validate themselves and look at people and think "oh how amazing my life is because I am not poor" and forgets that poor people have pride too , they are not animals and the place where they live is not a zoo and this whole shit is not a safari either
Why ? To get a sneak peek of what Europe is going to look like in 20 years.
@Showdown europe wont exist then. When the white men vanished, the yellow men is going to continue.
But you have to know that chinese are by far more racist.
Europe in this actual days is just Babylon 2.0
I personally smell a feeling of the last days since 2014.
@Showdown i merely believe that the USA was just an experiment to see if it does work on a bigger landmass.
Yes, the building of the EU comission is looking like the tower of Babel. Strange shit.
@Showdown hahahhaha the han Chinese arnt racist he says but smarter.
As a South African this clip only shows a slanted view of the really REAL South Africa, it's been 25 years of ANC rule in South Africa and "squatter camps" or slums as this clip says are increasing. This tour was only taken to Kyalitsha but nowhere near the Cape flats because that'd show that slums are not just black in South Africa but there are also mixed race and white slums as well. It wouldn't tell how Cape Town and it's surrounding areas are now South Africa's murder and crime capital with up to 245 murders per 100 00 people per year, drugs is out of control and gang shootings are constant. Ambulances have to go to police stations to get police escorts to answer calls in many areas especially at night and many paramedics have themselves either been stabbed or shot on scene. It doesn't show how there is a crumbling police force that is under manned and under resourced and in many areas corrupt. It doesn't show how paranoid we are because of crime with high walls, barbed wire, electric fences and 24hr response security because house breakings often turn aggresively violent and car jacking is everyday. 25 years of ANC rule and poverty is higher, infrastructure is crumbling and the ANC is keeping the nepotism healthy. In the past year attacks on foreign tourists have increased massively and that is actually as they're leaving the airport. South Africa is not the place everyone thinks, it's 2019 not 1994 things are not all Nelson Mandela anymore and apartheid was a quarter century ago.
Pure exploitation, the world really is racing to the bottom. This tour guide is exposing these poor people, especially those kids to so many dangers, not to mention the human zoo effect, sickening. What the hell is that school thinking letting unvetted strangers rock up every day?!!! Truly disturbing.
At least if this tour guide was helping the poor people in the townships to set up home bars and food places they could make a living and improve their living conditions. Really losing my faith in humanity!
4:10 "We stay here and play with kids. Just touch them" Sorry, lady. Women don't get a pass for being a sexual predator too.
4:10 She means well but, wow - that just sounds wrong to me...
Kassim Babika basically the reason why Southeast Asia is old white pedo paradise
same thing in india the foreigners just love Dharavi,Mumbai.they barge into random peoples homes to see "slums".they are peoples homes.those people work hard to make a living they dont want your fake pity.just leave them alone