Does Tyreek Hill move affect Patrick Mahomes or Tua more? - Skip & Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- Tyreek Hill agreed to a four-year, $120 million dollar deal with the Miami Dolphins yesterday after they sent five draft picks to the Kansas City Chiefs for the superstar receiver in a surprising trade. The new deal makes the NFL’s fastest man the highest-paid wide receiver in league history. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discuss whether Patrick Mahomes will be exposed more without Tyreek or Tua Tagovailoa with him.
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Does Tyreek Hill move affect Patrick Mahomes or Tua more? - Skip & Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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Well they were a perfect match and the cheifs will suffer but I don't think tua has the arm strength to do what mahomes does idk why these guys don't just take paycuts look at Brady and the Pats
Wilson did it to early was hardly sacked but he started getting hit
@@RING_FF ⁷⁷⁷⁷⁷
He may take the field again
>>>May-field
Podcast..?
They’re gonna be on Tua like they were Baker with all those weapons.
Took the words right out my mouth ✅
The criticism would accutally be worst since tua gets to play two great wr,decent running back and a good tightend vs
one good wr two great running backs and a decent tight end for baker
@@omarjaafar6020 Bakers o line is still significantly better tho.
You realize Waddle had a great year with Tua, with a horrible offense- they’re gonna do well
Well can you blame them?? Look at all those weapons.
Shannon's metaphor game is absurd 😭" don't nobody want baker, baker be burning the bread "😭
Dude is actually amazing with the stuff he comes up with
Brownie baker mayfield
Where can I see this? Lol
@@big1491 watch the video lol
8:47
If Tua can’t succeed with Waddle, Gasecki and now Hill, I don’t know how Miami keeps him.
Facts
And mostert in the backfield.
And let Tua ball out, they'll never give him credit
The ghost of Marino still haunts Miami...
why they have 2 firsts and a second in 2023 in a "break glass in case of emergency" situation. Tua needs to win a playoff game this year, or a major award or he is gone.
Skip Bayless: Hating on everyone.
Also Skip Bayless: Will never admit he's wrong.
Also Skip: (drops to knees and kisses Brady and Jordan's nutsack)
Skipp is HOF AND HIS NEVER 👎🏽 WRONG.
@@richardramos8218 I think he does that more to Baker Mayfield than Brady and Jordan at the rate he's going
@@DEIONCARTER21 so im guessing you and skip are smoking the exact same stuff?
@@richardramos8218 who wouldnt though
"I know a guy that went number one overall that's not wanted!" Shannon is hilarious
😆 🤣
Todd Gurley ?? 😂
@@westbaltimore1900 it’s cam newton
Lol Baker Mayfield
Carson wentz
I think mahomes & Tyreek will both “suffer”, they were a QB-WR, huge arm-deep speed combo match made in heaven
Mahomes will be fine,this will improve our overall team.We will have enough offense
@@Ninjersey1 no we dont who he throwing to besides kelce???
@@life0flai juju, mecole, gonna draft that bama dude Williamson maybe sign a veteran we have money in cap. No one is gonna replace Hill because he is one of a kind but you have to roll with the QB’s in this league and WR’s are out there and available.
@@progamerunknown30 lets say juju is our WR1 its not looking good cuz i personally dont trust juju but u right i hope this draft goes well considering we have 2 first
@@life0flai juju is better as a wr2. Look at his stats when he became wr1 in Pittsburgh
Mahomes apparently “struggled” last year and got to the AFC Championship game. I bet every team in the league would love their QB, in a “struggling year”, to get them to the Conference Championship game. 🤷♂️
They dont here you !!!!
As a Bills fan this is truth
Nah
That team ain't doing nothing I don't know where all these Kansas city's fans came from in the last 5 years cuz they've been trashed for about 50 and now everybody trying to tell me use your best wide receiver your defense ain't that good your old line is a little shaky that I certainly you still the favorite for the super bowl get off it y'all won't make the playoffs this year 100% she guarantee you can't believe drafting seven rookies is going to make your team good when you got a team ready to win right now with a quarterback and not included injuries it's a horrible trade they traded Tyreek Hill because they overpaid Pat mahomes
He did struggle tho. Two things can be true, Mahomes struggled but he did make it to the championship game. That defense stepped up which is a the main reason why they started winning.
This trade was a statement to Tua: “If you don’t ball out this season, we already got the weapons in place for the next guy.”
I thought the same
Yup
Pretty much
Smartest comment on this feed.
"I know somebody on top of the trash heap!" Waiting at the landfill to get picked up! 😂😂😂
Damaged goods
Lmaooo
The Tyreek Hill trade came as an absolute shock to every Chiefs fan. This is a huge loss. But this move reminds everyone the NFL is a business. The Chiefs were force to do something they didn’t want to do but got a huge haul back for it. They’ll won’t replace Tyreek, you can’t think like that. But they’ll go for a Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, Trey Burks, Dotson or a Chris Watson. Maybe a couple of those guys. They also now have cap space to sign a guy like Stephon Gilmore, James Bradberry or Kyle Fuller, and Jadeveon Clowney. They can become more balanced as a team. And this move happened in March. We gotta give the benefit of the doubt to offensive genius of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes to work the entire off-season to figure it out. They’ll miss Cheetah but this will force Mahomes to adapt and become better. Think Matthew Stafford post Calvin Johnson or Baker Mayfield post Odell’s injury. People like Skip and casuals are funny because they just want the Chiefs to fail. It will work out in the long run
stop coping, they gave up Tyreek, chiefs are gonna be garbo now
sure mahomes can throw, but he needs someone who knows what he's doing to get away with the bs that he tries to throw
Dumb fawk he left them
Lol yeah bro no I'm sorry if your a Chief but Hill is one of the most electrifying players in sports history. So is Patrick don't get me wrong. But your just a step behind the Bengals and the Bills now. Those draft might not amount too much then what? It's alot of if's in your rant. We'll see
THEY WILL BE FINE THEY STILL HAVE KELCE
Sharpe needs to start yelling "IT'S MY TURN!!!" when Skip interrupts him. Lmao
That happens less they get along better these days
And then skip needs to bring a goat mask
@@omarjaafar6020 that would be my favorite episode!
It’s fun watching chiefs fans act like it isn’t a big loss lol. Y’all said you we’re gonna win 7 titles 💀
It's a big loss, but he wanted to leave so you get something for him as opposed to next year he's a free agent and he walks and you get nothing! Of course he's going to be missed, but next man up. Every player thrive different on different teams some good some bad. So we will wait n see about that outcome. I'm not worried at all. We still got the best qb n tight end in the league!
He not to good at deep balls they both lost his stats will go down him and mahonmes were great together
Correction bandwagon fans and sports media said that 😂 not 1 real chiefs fan has ever said that however I did say a few years back I could see mahomes winning at most 3 rings with the chiefs and technically he did lol 1 Superbowl ring+2 AFC championship rings
We sad about it. But we trust our Chiefs organization. We'll be fine. You want us to be miserable huh? KC will still win the division 🤷🏾
It’s absolutely a huge loss. But in context it makes sense. A WR is much easier to replace than a franchise QB. You can live with it because while it sucks to see him go, they at least got big compensation in return compared to what a GB got. There isn’t a replacing Tyreek though. Huge loss but in context of the contract etc it makes sense. They’ll likely be worse this year, but with solid drafting I think they can win the trade long term.
Tua constantly underthrowing the fastest WR duo in NFL history every week will be special.
Lmfao
He just gotta throw it early and let them run under it
If tyreek went to cle they would be in afc championship
Jim Nantz be like
“Tagovailoa launching the deep ball. Has a man open and it’s underthrown. Intended for Tyreek Hill as he got by everyone.”
@@zj8478 Had cleveland waited maybe ..But not when they paying 300m to a QB that wont even play next year
Clueless about how this offense is gonna run.. we're not gonna be running constant go routes for hill and waddle
As a lifelong Raiders fan, I can say I never thought Shannon Sharpe can make sports talk more tolerable than the alternative. Which would be Skip vs Stephen A. Shannon & Skip are such a great dynamic.
Hope Tyreek is ready for 13 jet sweeps and 5 screens per game 😂
For real 😂😭
And little drag routes that he will get crushed smh risking injury for a few more million we offered him 21million
Might as well just unofficially switch to running back lmao
He was already doing that tho so I don’t get it
It seems like he went for the money so he must not care
It's on Tua now. The Dolphins organization is placing their chips behind him. You have a top 5 or arguably top 3 WR with a young WR who has endless potential. A good RB in Chase Edmunds (who might take Gaskin's job this season) Connor Williams (who left my Cowboys for NOTHING) there's little to no excuses offensively.
Conor didn't give up a sack cause he had the most holding calls false start
As a cowboys fan I would have paid and gave a 4 round pick just so he can leave bcuz he was terrible (connorwilliams)!!!!!
@@joeybautista9543 He's the Dolphins problem If Conor was starting that mean the backup was that bad
They should have went with Baker.
@@acephas3 Naw I'm good
Who’s here after Mahomes went for 5,000+ passing yards with 45 total TDS 😂 “ exposed “ skip is crazy
Mahomes lost a great weapon but Tua is fighting for his career as a starter. If Tua can't win with the weapons he has now, he'll likely not get another starting job. Or, if he does, it'll be with a bad and desperate team.
or as a backup for the rest of his career.
@@Aaron_Scissorhands sit the bench as a backup, have a long career making $2 to $4 million per year.
Not a bad deal
1 MVP, 2 SBs, 2 SB mvps, 7-0 playoff record with 13 tds to 1int, safe to say mahomes don’t need Tyreek
The sad part is even if Tua succeeds they'll just say "his offense was loaded! Anyone would be able to win with that team". Bottom of the tier line and on average only about 2.8 seconds to get a pass before the defense is on you.
Brady gets the ball out on average 2.7 seconds. Your point is invalid
@@venomf0 Very very stupid take 😂
@@venomf0 stupid comparison
No, the sad part is that even with two good receivers Tua will still fail.
Just got him two top tier linemen on his blindside.
“ I know someone right now sitting at the landfill waiting to get picked” 😭 “ rather get eating by an alligator or a crocodile both are terrible choices” 😭😭😭 Unc is the greatest on TV
Respect to Skip for defending McCartney and Lennon. He knows wtf is up.
I have a feeling Miami is setting up to move on from tua
Tua to Houston. Jimmy G or Baker to Miami
lets hope
@@ripack78 no
@@ripack78 I can see them goin for baker
Could be would imagine Miami is easy to get free agents too
i really hope Tua proves them all wrong. The kid hasn’t had anything. this is the closest that he’s had to a complete supporting cast & hopefully being completely healthy, this upcoming year. so if he can’t get it down now, then it’s a wrap - you have to move on. and two first round picks next year make that a whole lot easier to do.
I agree but consider this his last chance. We can't say anything about the dolphins not giving him the tools. And if he fails they got the weapons for whoever they roll with next
Well now he’s in the Baker Mayfield situation. We’ll see. And he has had something. Don’t discount Waddle or Mike G
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 no O-line or Running game for the past two years though. NOW he is in Bakers position because this O-line and Running game can compare to Clevelands of late
@@matthewslaven9340 now he is but he still played mediocre and that’s on him. Baker and Tua fans starting to sound alike
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 I was just agreeing with you. Just emphasising the fact that Dolphins now gave him what Cleveland gave Baker, we saw what Baker did with it, now let's see what Tua can do with it, and I think he will silence the hate. I pray Tua proves everyone wrong, would make me so happy watching everyone eat crow.
It's time to see what Mahomes can do without his deep threat available. His stats are incredible however if he is on Brady's level he can succeed with what he's got any year.
Not true Brady’s last year in N.E was horrible when he had no key guys. You need some type of effective talent around you.
@@Nite973 that’s actually pretty true. Aaron Rogers gets it done with anyone. Brady needs top talent around. At a minimum he needs Gronk
@@Nite973 it was not horrible he still threw at least 24 tds and over 2400 yards
@@DonnieDin Aaron had guys like Jordy Nelson and devante Adams threw out at least half of his career he had pieces
@@DonnieDin especially the last two years
I’m dying at Skips reaction to the Lennon and McCartney comparison 🤣
Shannon & Skip was soooo wrong about the Tua and the Cheetah connection
Mahomes will miss Tyreek more because of the "out of the ordinary" football plays that made Tyreek Hill dangerous everytime he stepped on the field
Yes we will but next man up next draft up next free agent up it dont stop ,Patrick still there ????
Hardman almost lead the team in YAC yardage... Just slightly behind Kelce with less than half the targets Tyreek got. 🤷♂️ In fact, 500 of the 700 yards he put up was YAC yardage. Only two drops in 80 targets. He finished like 8th overall in the league with all those other dudes getting like 140 targets outside of Austin Ekeler (96 targets). So if you are keeping score... that means Tyreek got 160 targets and finished 3rd on the Chiefs in YAC.
Now Hardman gets to slide into that role in Andy Reid's playbook.
@@BeepBeep1981 I feel that Mahomes can be the same QB as before, but Tyreek kept defenses honest by being unstructured
@@_Tree There will be growing pains for sure... but Brett Veach has drafted well above average, we've never been this loaded up on picks and they got cap space to boot. I honestly don't they are trippin' about the offense and Mahomes ability to put points on the board with Kelce, Hardman, and JuJu. I think you'll see them focus on the defensive side of the ball while every keeps freaking out about the offense in the media all off season.
@@BeepBeep1981 I forgot that they signed Juju......so yeah it won't be so bad. KC will still be a threat in the AFC, but it won't be as easy this season
You rather have tua or baker Shannon??
“Id rather get eatin by a crocodile” 💀💀💀
Tua all day not even close lol
@@LKS-M9323 lol
This whole narrative that people seem to be pushing that mahomes will struggle without hill is wild to me. Mahomes has a passer rating of 103.1 with 1,737 yards, 8 touchdowns and 1 interception in 5 games without Tyrek in his career... has having tyrek benefitted Mahomes ? obviously having a player like tyrek would benefit every damn quarterback but mahomes will be just fine.
You're not wrong. Mahomes will not "struggle" but they are also unlikely to be that team you should be afraid might score points in a flash anymore. Also who knows how much longer Kelce will be a top tier weapon. The receiving corps is still a strength especially after adding Juju and MVS. However with the division expected to get a lot better it will be a challenge for the Chiefs and Mahomes to live up to the insane standard they have had.
@@JohnnyV123 100 percent agree with you. Tyrek was the final nail in the coffee when it comes to putting fear in other defenses. Without him it's completely gone. Double kelce and make the others win there 1 on 1 match ups... this may be the fan side of me but as long as we have mahomes i feel like we got a shot of winning the super bowl regardless. Winning rhe afc west will be alot tougher but I'm really excited for this season. The west is gonna be really competitive
He scrambles and Hill gets open by beating everyone, if you take that away he could be in trouble. He was having problems staying in the pocket and pulling the trigger at the end of last season
@@joelopez7459 yeah whatever
"Baker burning the bread" 🍞 Shannon is hilarious! 😂
KC fans should be happy. I think this move will make Mahomes grow even more into that Brady type of QB that can methodically march down the field without looking for some crazy deep throw. I think there will be growing pains but this will ultimately help Mahomes more than hurt him. At least imo.
But then the chiefs need to get a second TE then because Kelce already struggled when he’d get pressed on the line by guys like Derwin James or Kyle Dugger. It was harder to press him when Hill is on the field because the safeties have to stay deep. He’s turning 33 and isn’t gonna get any faster so the Chiefs might have problems especially on 3rd downs if Kelce can’t get off the line.
F brady, he doesnt need to throw a million check downs a game. There is a reason he succeeded with HIS skills
It will hurt him more than help him
@@Steiger550 lol
@@SamNB3 Mahomes will be the next check down Charlie lmfao 🤣
Skip keeps bragging about how "right" he was or is going to be about these different quarterbacks. I'm not sure why Shannon doesn't just bring up Matthew Stafford anytime skip does that. Skip made him eat his words each and every time and won the SB. It was the ultimate slap in the face to skip.
Stafford fersure got carried by that defense though. He made plenty of dumb mistakes/interceptions with there playoff run and Super Bowl win but he did enough with that strong defense to get it done. With out that D though they aren’t winning it all last year
Baker Tebow and Manziel are fodder for Shannon in arguments now, he doesn’t rub it in as much as he should
@@bustingyewls154 Once Obj went down in the final, Stafford & Cooper went clutch
@@bustingyewls154 stafford did not get carried by the defense lmao be quite
@@elijahgonzalez2336 🤷🏻♂️ whatever helps you sleep at night
Imagine if Dan Marino played with Tyreek Hill
They need to stop with these false narratives that they wanted Hill outta KC, because Hills agent said that KC wanted to work his contract out since the offseason.
I feel the plus side is, the receivers the chiefs have now will learn the system they have fresh. I can't tell you how many blown and dead plays between Pringle, Robinson, and Hill. They were moment players. Small in physique, if you haven't seen the average cb or nickel the smaller receivers have no chance..
That's been my problem with the chiefs but they have gotten away with it
There is no replacing Hil
well they seemed just fine winning a super bowl 😂
MAHOMES very first start, the last game of his rookie year, was against Von Miller and Company on the Denver defense... He got the lead, got took out... They got behind and put him back in to win it... Hill, Kelce and most of the starters were resting... Mahomes won throwing to Albert Wilson and Chris Connolly... In his 2018 highlights, there are several that were Mahomes to DeMarcus Robinson... Last year at end of season, Hardman and Pringle (twice) were top receivers with both having 100 yard games... Mabomes had to lose most of his deep balls last year and had to play a short field and figured it out... So he will be fine, there is only one Hill, but still a lot of good receivers out there, and playing with Mahomes is a plus for recruiting.. So KC / Mahomes will be fine... Just My Humble Opinion...
Yah well mahomes isn’t as good as he was 4 years ago
@@tristenrodrigue1814 yeah that 400k salary Mahomes was a beast
You put it perfectly! KC can’t afford to make Hill the highest paid and then have hime go for 14 yards on 2 catches, he put up those type of numbers a few times last year. When the teams they faced last year keyed in on Hill he had a really tough time being productive.
YEP, no 5000 / 50 seasons since 2018... Teams have been changing and adapting against Mahomes / KC since 2018 all the way to taking away the deep / over the top ball (AKA Tyreek Hill) last year... Yet Mahomes has still had great numbers every year and went to the AFC Championship each year to boot... So, while his stats may not be in the 5000 / 50 range yearly, his game has improved, and he has started taking what he is given making him even more dangerous with all his other skills... KC / Mahomes will be fine...
@@c.mendoza6911 Major issue I believe KC considered is injury and not necessarily Hill's production. An injured player with a massive hit to the salary cap is a terrible situation. With Hill getting older (relative to NFL) I believe he's not going to be resilient as his younger days. Also, having teams key onto a specific player is not necessarily a bad thing if you have other receivers (e.g. Kelce) that can capitalise on said situation. Again, if KC paid Hill to stay, it makes it difficult to obtain good receivers that will pick up the slack when Hill's production is low.
Tyreke will be fine. He’ll most likely be used similar to how Alex Smith used him in his first year (Tyreke’s) in the league. He’ll be in screens and reverses more than streaks and long range routes. I want to see the double reverses between him and Waddle. Throw in Wilson and you can flea flicker occasionally. But it will be mostly smoke and mirrors and eventually like Alex teams will make Tua have to go over the top.
Bro I have to disagree I believe like Shannon the pieces alone will not be a great as they have been together for Tyeke and Mahomes...Plus Kelcie will suffer without #10 on the other end
Tyreek* but I agree
@@ervinallen8418 I don’t think he’s better with Tua. Of course Mahomes and Tyreke are better together. Travis would also benefit from not getting double teamed.
I just think there is evidence you can use Tyreke in a different ways and Alex Smith and Tyreke’s relationship is what I feel you can do with Tua and Tyreke. You just have to get more creative in order to get Tyreke them targets and touches since Tua doesn’t have the cannon of Mahomes. Plus I think this makes Miami a team that can be hard to stop because Tyreke and Waddles speed will allow for more creative plays on line of scrimmage and in the backfield to help Tua.
Mahomes is a great QB who will play well with or without Tyreke and Tyreke will be a fast and crazy good wideout without Patrick but I believe that they aren’t going to be bad separated. Just not as dominant if I’m making sense.
Mahomes has had great games without Tyreek when he has been injured. That being said, in the off-season, they’ll need to get more depth at WR
who else did they lose? bc with juju kelce mecole that’s already very good, better than most. i think they lost demarcus robinson but i can’t seem to remember who else they have at wr
@@UnderratedReVo Demarcus and Bryan Pringle. IMO opinion Pringle passed Mecole and Robinson as a Wideout, and He's been a better special team's kick returner than Mecole.
They also have an aerial threat in Valdez-Scantling
Mecole hardman is the only remaining wr on the chiefs from the Superbowl run
@@UnderratedReVo they lost Pringle and Robinson also. I don’t think Juju is a #1 WR, and I see them spending one of their first round picks on a WR if they don’t get DK Metcalf. The Chiefs have the worst WR core easily in their their division.
I love how Shannon was like hold up alligator and crocodile is not the same 😂😂
When will the Dolphins acknowledge that they NEED a QB smh, they’re instead signing players that they don’t need. The last good QB they ever had was Dan Marino and that was back in 1999🤦♂️
5 picks for a WR is absolutely crazy
Absolutely idiotic…especially when the QB doesn’t have the tools to maximize said WR
@@jeanlouis1898 Kyler Murray will be there Next Year.
I mean it was only 1 first round pick, i wouldve rather gotten 2 seconds and a 3rd than getting 1 first, 1 second and some other later round picks that probably wont amount to anything
@@deangeloj4349 they took their starting RG in the 6th round. If you scout right you can get some serious talent in later rounds. They have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. They can fill some holes on their roster if they draft right
@@firellparker7463 oooooooouu, hot take
Aye Skip was not feeling that Beatles comparison at lol 😂 😂😂😂
This is the best offense on paper Miami has had in such a long time. If Tua is the guy in 2 seasons he hasn't shown that he can't be but he also hasn't shown that he can be. This 3rd year is make it or break it. Miami has the assets to get a top tier QB next year. I like the moves. Go all in this year and see if Tua is the truth. If not we can fix it and still have major players on the team
All this year was for Mahomes was him mastering his craft. He knows what he can do, now it’s about polishing his game.
Spot on
To say the Broncos just won the west with what the Chargers and Raiders have done in the offseason is F'ing ridiculous.
Right, I think the Raiders are going to be waaaaaay better next season !
@@PaperChasing38 lol
“When u get a chance go to the locker room. Pull up a check…. Go right back out there” Shannon hilarious😭at the end
I disagree with Shannon. I think the reason why Travis Kelce is so great is because opposing teams drop their safeties back to defend Tyreek which opens up things for Kelce below. Both Kelce and Mahomes will miss Tyreek.
wrong. Lol
This is a very true statement. Unless they get a number 1 receiver. They might get something good in draft with all those picks
Kelce hands are better than hills
Yeah his hands should be better in 1 on 1 coverage
Kelce had 1000 yard season with Alex Smith so no hill isn't the reason. Kelce was a stud before mahomes even became a starter
Why is no one mentioning one of the biggest thing in Tua not throwing down the field. His Offensive line was rated the worst in football and one of the worst in NFL history...Hard to throw if he is running for your life 2 secs after they hike the ball...He was bombs away in college BECAUSE he had a great Offensive line..The line is alot better so let's see what he does..If not Teddy takes over and we got 2 first round picks to use on a QB either draft of go after a veteran..
Everyone has mentioned the O-line as an excuse for timid Tua.
They haven’t seen his bama tape dude has a cannon when healthy
@@milton1448 Not really. Everyone talks about Joe Burrows O-line being trash when it was actually like 25th worse in the league. Meanwhile Miami's was dead last.
Exactly. Ppl criticize Tua like he “can’t” throw downfield but since he’s been in Miami, he hasn’t had the protection, coaching, or support for him to have the luxury to sling it. It was no problem at Bama. And He’s a professional NFL QB. Of course he can throw the ball. These narratives get so overblown and never account for context.
@@austinburnett2129 He's not the same after the injury and his flaws got covered up in college., Not rocket science here.
The chiefs win. They have the capital to draft a new#1 and hill's absence will force the offense into more balance. If you can get mahomes dealing like Brees it can be historic.
Yeah, because Tyreek Hill just grows on trees right? The Chiefs made the right decision, but it did not make them better.
Ur way too optimistic🤣it was a trade that had to be done but at the same time it’s gnna be tough to draft a replacement for tyreek
You think Tyreek hills grow on trees buddy lolol
They’re gonna draft Chris olave
@@Halfdozengp even when the chiefs won the super bowl, it wasn't hill. It was mahomes and the run game. And the chiefs need defense more than the highest paid receiver in the league.
Shannon: Like Benja… well Ben was on that stuff…. Lol 😂 i died
Shannon said check your back acc at halftime to cheer yourself up lmao
Leave it to Skip to say Tua is a bust and Shannon was wrong about him but the guy will still back Baker 😂 Baker went through this same situation. Got his star receiver, upgraded OL and good running backs. The only difference is we know Baker didn’t do anything with all that support
i love how skip says mahomes does behind the back between the legs when all he did was throw 2 left handed passes
8:05 Lmfaooooo “Crocodile or Alligator”
“ you know Ben was on dat stuff” 🤣🤣🤣Unc silly af
If they find a great young wr or two in the draft like there has been the past couple drafts they will be fine but you have to pick the rite ones
Tua has had the worst offensive line in football in Miami. I don't know what the media can't grasp with that. He has less then 3 seconds to throw the ball nearly every single play. Give the kid a bit of time an we are going to see what he's got in that arm. Looked pretty good at Bama throwing to track stars when he wasn't getting hit before he could take 3 steps.
Yea his offensive line is really terrible. Being short and having a terrible offensive line ain't helping him at all
Not worse than bengals and ravens
You gotta realize those track stars are now going against grown men now…2 different levels but I do agree that he does need more time to throw
Thank you Shannon, well spoken
Mahomes contract is finally kicking in. The end of the Chiefs is upon us.
We got the most cap space you can pay ur qb that much and te you got to make hard decisions this will help us
@@wetlihwalter2695 losing Tyreek Hill was not good for you. Granted, in 5 or 7 years, when the cap is way higher and Mahomes' contract isn't really killing the team, they'll be really good. For the immediate future though, Tyreek Hill was by far Mahomes' most dangerous weapon.
@@wetlihwalter2695 cope
Basement dwelling fans are praising the chiefs perceived downfall. Don’t hedge your bets too early.
Bucs ended the chiefs
He CANT BACK IT UP IN THE FIELD????? My goodness......The guy handed his defense the lead with less than 2 min left THREE TIMES!!!!! Falcons, Raiders, Jags. The defense was not able to stop them and lost the games on Fg's. They wouldve been an 12-5 and playoffs bound. He did great with what he had. 2 yrs back, when he came back from injury he beat the Cardinals and Murray and beat the Chargers and Herbert. STOP THE HATE
Facts. Tua's done exceptionally well IMO given the circumstances.
@@Jacob-ec6st Exactly. It is disgusting
@@joan.oviedo7ace3 injury prone
This might actually be a blessing in disguise. Patrick has forced the ball to tyreek a lot in the past AFC championship interception case in point. He did good in games without him statistically. Yes less deep threat but now mahomes gets to prove how great he is and will definitely take what defenses give him for a more balanced offense.
If Tua can get 1015yds, 104 rec and 6td from a rookie (Jaylen), he'll do ok with Tyreek.
Here's the thing though when Tua got to play went 8-1 with people trying to pay players to throw games and the team looked better with him on the field.
soft schedule needs to be mentioned in this
@@milton1448 Say soft all you want but top teams lose to those soft teams you talk about every year it's not easy to win 8 straight in the NFL no matter who your playing ,hater!
@@dmac7403 Grow up. There was no "hate" in comment. And if the truth bothers you, that's on you.
I hate the trade very much but I'm looking at it differently than anybody else and it's really nothing to do with Mahomes because this can make Mahomes even more lethal. It more to do with Andy Reid. Since Mahomes took over Andy has been gun blazing with deep pass and little to no balance with running and chain moving pass plays until this past season because of defenses taking Tyreek out and they were doing it with single coverage but with a 2 man saftey look. Mahomes got so much better playing small ball and in the AFC championship game it blew it because he went back to deep ball with little to no running. It's time for Mahomes to earn his contract and also to get Andy back to play balance ball lime he did with Alex but still have Mahomes elite throwing abilities.
Facts.
I love the way these two debate, it's always good for entertainment
Lol that Ben was on that stuff comment 😅😅
TUA IS THAT GUY. JUST WAIT. 🙏🏻
I feel like Tyreek wanted to go to Miami the place more than Miami the team. The money is great but I think he will regret it on the field 🤔
Absolutely no doubt! He will never admit though
not necessarily the place. moreso the money. highest paid wr ever. i think he would’ve went anywhere that paid enough
but with that being said ^ he will regret it.
"Ben was on that stuff..." 🤣🤣
as a fan i’d like to see us develop our medium and short game passing, as well as our running game. keep the ball away and put up 7’s. chris jones is an absolute animal with any help around him IF he’s not tired. big boy gets tired
it seems with all of our moves we’re looking to become a true perineal franchise built around mahomes. other players ask for too much pie and they’ll get served out. we seem to draft exceptionally well aside from the wr position (aside from hill, speed > receiver imo). rebuild the ship and when it looks like it’s our year we strike
our gm seems to be very good with both talent evaluation and the financial side of it. i think the mahomes contract will go down as one of the best ever. along with mahomes’ willingness to restructure his contract, good luck rest of the nfl. i’m glad i’m from MO
Skip’s response to McCartney and Lennon was priceless. These two are just brilliant together (I mean Skip and Shannon).
Skip is terrible
What a way for Skip to hedge his bet: “Mahomes will be exposed a little bit, but a significant bit.” If Mahomes is unaffected Skip said a little bit, if he does bad skip will come in saying “I FIRST GUESSED THIS” 😂
He's also setting himself up just in case Tua has success in Miami's "Look at all his weapons!!" "He has a track team". Shannon always falls for his tricks.
exposed?
@@christophercomitini8619 Shannon doesn't fall for it brother Shannon knows Shannon and everyone knows skip is all time great at moving the goal post it wouldn't matter if Shannon disagreed on that
Skips initial comment about the beetles is telling about his love and romanticism for old things. Carl Jung would have a field day lol.
Ok i know we are gonna miss Hill's speed but i did some research on last season and take a look at these numbers:
1. Mahomes 4,789yds 37 TDs
2. Hill 111 Catches 1,228 yds 9 TDs
So by these numbers Hill accounted for 25% of Mahomes passing yds and 24% of his passing Tds. I think we can find at least 20 % of that production on both sides with other players. Just my thought process 😁
I am certainly no chiefs fan but I honestly think you’ll be the same old chiefs lol
We will just have to see because if the Dolphins start out lets say 5-0 and Tua having a good season so far they going to be doing that old walk back and I hate this stigma about Bama players if they get drafted in the 1 rounds people already ready for them to be a draft bust
Bro I’ve seen tua throw the ball 60 yards down the field for a catch
The first thing you do with a 500 million dollar QB is give him protection.....not the fastest receiver in the NFL.....he doesn't need that. Chiefs will be just fine with who they picked up already. And they have 12 picks to get whoever they want.
very keen observation
Bro Miami has speed at all levels on offense.. run game, receivers and te.. west coast style offense.. good luck defending Miami next year
They don’t have to defend Miami. Tua will underthrow em anyway. 🤷♂️
Tyreek Hills bails Mahomes out all the time when he scrambles all over the field. I disagree with Uncle Sharp. Mahomes will miss Tyreek Hill more
Without Hill Mahomes threw 1,788 yards ,9 touchdowns and one interception that is without Tyreek. No Tyreek is going to miss Mahomes more great quarterback make receivers look great. Hill was very good dependable receiver but Mahomes will be Mahomes.
Lmao Tua is trash,Tyreek will regret this when he is forgotten with trash numbers,the way they will use him he will be risking injury also on all those short routes
Mahomes still doesn't know how to read a defense lmao. Tyreek will prove to be the Chiefs MVP in his absence. Lamar, Watson, Allen will prove to be much better QBs than Mahomes too.
@@thomassankara1391 yeah 37 touchdowns 4,000 yards and 13ints and nine of those turnovers were tipped passes five by Hill. Yep his numbers are going to decline genius.
Kelce, Robinson, Pringle, and Hardman would all like a word.
Oh man this aged like milk
Let's go!!!!!!!! Fins up!!! Try covering that receiver corps, Gesicki and the backfield threat! Two always open! Amped.
Chiefs dominated like always 🎉
Reminder that Miami could have drafted Herbert 🤧
Thats a painful reminder especially with his ability 2 make every throw with his rocket arm
If they had Herbert they would have made the playoffs last two years. Tua is not that guy.
I'm just here to laugh at Skip!
Let’s not act like Tua also didn’t have one of the worse offensive lines last year too. As long as they beef up his blind side and give him an opportunity Tua will succeed
This is easy, no matter what happens this season we all know if healthy Pat Mahomes is the starting QB in KC in 2023; Tua has this season and this season alone to prove he can be a starting QB in the NFL. If he clicks with Hill and has a great season he'll get the bag. If it doesn't work he'll be released and the dolphins will draft his replacement in the 2023 NFL draft.
I actually think baker is going to come back healthy and ball out on everyone when he gets a chance... I think Cleveland overplayed their hand so teams are waiting for them to release him... If I was Seattle or Carolina I'd be calling Cleveland for sure I wouldn't mind having him in Houston to compete with mills
I remember a time Andy thought he could figure it out in Philly 🤣
"I either get eaten by an alligator or a crocodile ...." lol
All we need is our future franchise quarterback next year and we are a real playoffs team period 💯💯🐬🆙️
Clueless Dolphins fan, Tua had the worst pass protection and running game and still had a winning record and now he got all this, y’all shall be prepared to see what’s about to happen, and he actually has a coach that is offensive minded that cares about him
@@DNASTY_100 blah blah blah
Dolphins No More Excuses 2022 Tour......implosion....Its gonna suck 4 the Tua cult when they see Teddy starting by the end of the season i just can pinpoint how short the leash will be that they put on TUnA
We got him, congrats
@@emballer7344 Right Skylar Thompson is on the roster 💯💯🏟🏈💪🏻🧔🏻🐬🆙️
@@BatmanPops you misspelled Tuanigamanuolepola Tagovailoa
I believe tyreek improves tua game play in a major way!!
I think Hill is going to have his career die in miami with Tua. Guy is garbage af
If it does not its basically the end of that if he can't succeed with this weapons
He at the landfill🤣🤣
Looking back on this segment, Skip didn’t make a single good point.
Skip : “I never liked tua”
Also skip : “for sure, Tua will be way better than Herbert”
I never liked Brady but I knew he was the greatest QB in history
I respect him now tho
6 Mahomes interceptions came off Hills hands last year including the one that lost us the AFC Championship. I'm not saying Hill isn't a great receiver because that would be stupid but I do think Tampa 2 coverage makes Hill not worth a huge payday for the chiefs. Especially since they have a long way to go to compete with their division rivals on the defensive side of the ball.
Ben (Johnson) was on that stuff🤣🤣🤣
He at the landfill🤣🤣💀