I Saved Old Computers From Being Scrapped!

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    Note: All computers received will have their drives appropriately wiped to respect the original owner's privacy :) Today we're looking at a bunch of old computers I got from a local recycler. They will definitely need a clean and restorations in future videos. Let's see exactly what I got :) #retro #computer #desktops
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  • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
    @BudgetBuildsOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    2:15 that VGA Port is just rusty from the RTX Level performance it’s been pushing out 👌

    • @kez1619
      @kez1619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aye, didn’t know you was a fan of the channel

    • @MTN1601
      @MTN1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi budget builds

    • @andrive
      @andrive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good channel

    • @MTN1601
      @MTN1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrive yeaa

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Silence scammer 😎 ^ (Edit: Scammer comment got deleted after posting)

  • @HighPeakMapping
    @HighPeakMapping 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Nathan is so kind, I wish there were more people like him in this world

    • @sugreevkarthikeyan
      @sugreevkarthikeyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is true

    • @Terminal_Apotos
      @Terminal_Apotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks man

    • @thephoenixking1086
      @thephoenixking1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Terminal_Apotos It's a scam, do NOT respond to it, report it for "Unwanted commercial content or spam".

    • @Terminal_Apotos
      @Terminal_Apotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thephoenixking1086 I know lol, just that my name is Nathan and he was calling me very kind

    • @thephoenixking1086
      @thephoenixking1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I meant the WhatsApp comment above saying people have won.
      I have seen it a few times in these comments, they have set their profile to like like the official one to try trick people.

  • @zaamuro8408
    @zaamuro8408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Those CREATIVE Cd drives brings back a lot of memories, they were the bomb, headphone jack, track no and remote!

  • @TheKDKCollector
    @TheKDKCollector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I love how you managed to salvage these old PCs mate! I love these old PCs too, unfortunately it’s hard to find them in my area, let alone recycling centers 😅

    • @TheKDKCollector
      @TheKDKCollector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Old laptop collector please report that imposter

    • @dinkarfowkar999
      @dinkarfowkar999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheKDKCollector done. When the imposter is sus😳😳

    • @AppyErazas007
      @AppyErazas007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Old laptop collector you are fake

  • @techshowyt
    @techshowyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's awesome that you are rescuing these old computers! Glad to know they will be properly repaired and cared for

  • @nikolaszisoudis8408
    @nikolaszisoudis8408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love recycling. I have found ALL my pcs there and the amount of consoles are astonishing

  • @Merjia
    @Merjia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I kinda miss these days of system builder PCs when everyone had their own weird case and motherboard designs.

    • @chasesvocalrange2540
      @chasesvocalrange2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Really? I didn’t know that was a thing. I just got into PC building 8 months ago, so my apologies it this sounded amateur

    • @brentsummers7377
      @brentsummers7377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Until someone had a front power switch button fail & finding a replacement was next to impossible.

    • @MixerVM
      @MixerVM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Build your own PC in those days and you were stuck with that ancient layout where the only built-in connector was the keyboard and everything else was a cumbersome breakout cable or an expansion card. Buy from a big brand and you got a case designed for ONE motherboard and one motherboard only, probably can't even swap it with a better board from the same brand. There's some charm to it, but I sure am glad ATX and its derivatives came along.

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Got to say the Acer case is original and sleek, clearly standing up from the beige box crowd. The Dell machine also has quite a recognizable design, but is maybe a notch below. The boxy machines are very cool as nostalgia-inducers in their own right, but guess they objectively pale in comparison, although the Hyundai is a bit in the middle, sort of on the boxy side, but with a design language of its own.

  • @SparksNZeros
    @SparksNZeros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    seeing you clean and restore these machines is so satisfying as hell, i am so onboard

  • @windestruct
    @windestruct 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    **Windows 98 installation is corrupted**
    The serviceman: It is obviously the CPU. What else?

    • @TheotanyaSama
      @TheotanyaSama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cash Convertor and consorts technicians are a joke. I don't count anymore the "faulty" machines I've bought in their shops for a couple of yens and the problem was just a crashed OS.

  • @mousecursor6521
    @mousecursor6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It's nice that you prevent electronics from E-Waste.

    • @tknight2235
      @tknight2235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah but it still is a waist what r u gonna do with the shitty old computerz

    • @applenotbanana749
      @applenotbanana749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tknight2235 keep them from landfills

    • @LKonstantina915
      @LKonstantina915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tknight2235 old electronics are valuable for retro collectors, maybe you can make a sleeper pc by modifying these cases. Imagine a 3090 sitting in a 1980 case LOL

    • @MTN1601
      @MTN1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tknight2235 play some games that cannot run on modern pc

    • @tknight2235
      @tknight2235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MTN1601 Yeah but why do u want to play those games when you can play them on one more powerful old pc

  • @sgtpeppers3021
    @sgtpeppers3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, god bless you for saving these machines. Hopefully A.I. will spare us after knowing there are people like you. Really looking forward to the restorations!

  • @s8wc3
    @s8wc3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a computer in a case just like that one from cashies. Mine was from A&R, you might remember them, but I doubt they are related. 3:14 That sticker has something to do with Apple computers sold to schools. Every 90s Mac i've come across with a school's asset tag has also had this sticker. No idea what it means though. And that dongle sticking out of the back is probably a software key, a popular form of anti-piracy. Also, tell those guys at ERA to actually put stuff on their web store. Thanks...

  • @thephoenixking1086
    @thephoenixking1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:06 - This would most likely set people off who suffer Trypophobia (Fear of clusters of objects such as holes and bombs).
    Strange why they went with this design, though I suppose this was many years before people started getting fears of anything.

  • @DecibelAlex
    @DecibelAlex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before you wipe the hard drives, remember to backup the drivers! It'll save you some headache. finding drivers for those old machines in this day is close to impossible. I speak from experience.
    Last time I went to the recycling center I picked up two 8-bit Nintendos, an IBM Aptiva 2420 and an IBM model 30. Both IBM's work. One NES I managed to save, the second one was beyond repair so I built a Mini ITX PC in it instead. One man's trash is another man's treasure

  • @jeff15
    @jeff15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome. Can't wait for the follow ups. Looks very promising 👌👍

  • @callumclark4021
    @callumclark4021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always look forward to your videos Nathan, didn't disappoint as usual!

  • @notnheavy
    @notnheavy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The amount of PCs you have at this point must be real nuts! :)

  • @jackieburkhart3268
    @jackieburkhart3268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm so glad i discovered you in my feed. this is great content!

  • @mohammadsherali
    @mohammadsherali ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother I am your new subscriber from INDIA. I like you old computer restoration because I love old technology. Very very nice job.

  • @Vijay_Baradwaj
    @Vijay_Baradwaj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nathan, you're vids are so therapeutic for me! just want to say thanks :)

  • @NoahAviation09
    @NoahAviation09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congratulations on 200k

  • @joshuacwilson6187
    @joshuacwilson6187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish the world was full of people like you! Great content as always Nathan!

  • @aid0nex
    @aid0nex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yeah, I am hyped for the following videos!! 😍😍

  • @Doggo_Norse
    @Doggo_Norse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are so entertaining and fun to watch, keep up the great work! 👍

  • @MaiElizabeth
    @MaiElizabeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ‘The Turbo button’ is so nostalgic. I remember using my friend’s PC of this era to do my assignment.

  • @JARVIS1187
    @JARVIS1187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh I'd love to get my hands on a Win95-machine like that you have. I have to ask around again and again at recycling departments with no luck. Treat it - or rather them all - well!

  • @jmalko9152
    @jmalko9152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! Looking forward to some future videos!

  • @certs743
    @certs743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great find. At least here in Canada old DOS capable machines are making a comeback and are worth alot of money for vintage DOS gaming. The Hypertec features a Pentium S according to the BIOS which is something I have never heard of and I have been using computers since I got an Apple II GS. A 386 was my first IBM compatible (that is a term you don't see anymore.).

  • @BalancedSpirit79
    @BalancedSpirit79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I'm definitely subbing, can't wait to see all these restorations! :)

  • @devicemodder
    @devicemodder 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Pentium 1 in the same case as @4:33. Great tip for cleaning grime from the front panel, put the front plastic panel in the dishwasher.

  • @sugreevkarthikeyan
    @sugreevkarthikeyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for saving the old computers because I like to save old things!!

  • @packie04
    @packie04 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant wait for videos on these machines!! keep up the good content bro!

  • @christianzockt
    @christianzockt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speaking of the APC: Maybe You should contact "The 8-Bit Guy". He might've a CGA Monitor to help You out with. Also he could take a Deep Dive on the Machine itself and also try some Repairs, if needed and/or possible.

    • @GrayDaDolf
      @GrayDaDolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He lives in Dallas, Texas, USA. Imagine how much shipping would cost 😳

  • @NoIntention2003
    @NoIntention2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking forward to a couple of interesting videos on these machines 😊

  • @FurbleFawks
    @FurbleFawks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome! On the NEC system, it might be worth talking to Mr Lurch on TH-cam. Perhaps you two could colab! He'll give you a few pointers on older systems like that I'm sure... and he's also from down under :)

  • @arnlol
    @arnlol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That NEC computer at the end must be very rare nowadays, I wonder why would anyone throw away something like this, people collecting computers of this era would probably pay quite some money for something like this… Hope you’ll be able to get it working.

  • @user-jm3ti1kg8n
    @user-jm3ti1kg8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great man never forgot love you're work ❤

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's nice seeing a local e-waster recycler keep a hold of these old beasts for ya, they need to be preserved!

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great haul. Looking forward to the resto videos.

  • @mikefuston4494
    @mikefuston4494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im glad there people saving these old machines. just because it isnt the latest and greatest doesnt mean it should be thrown away.

  • @CesareVesdani
    @CesareVesdani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am glad that you are keen enough to save those computers from scrap.

  • @spacefoetus1435
    @spacefoetus1435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked up a Hypertec HyperFormance series 1 witch matching CRT. So glad someone has covered this company as I was struggling to find any information about it.

  • @nighttone2983
    @nighttone2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nathan is so kind keep up the good work

  • @helifynoe9930
    @helifynoe9930 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have an old IBM computer that is so slow that it is almost useless. But I installed an alarm clock program that allows you to enter sentences that it will speak at assigned times. SO it is asleep most of the times, but wakes up and tells me things like "Get off your lazy butt and vacuum the carpet.", Or "It's treadmill time. Have you done your treadmill exercise yet ?".

  • @irrigamii
    @irrigamii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see these old beasts get restored!

  • @micbr508
    @micbr508 ปีที่แล้ว

    CPM&S (sometimes stylised as CPMS) I believe is "Computer Programs, Machines & Service". They were a computer reseller and service provider here in SA that sold heavily into business and education, and they seemed to stick those stickers on just about every machine they sent out. I actually still work with a couple of ex-CPM&S technicians, so I might be able to find out more info if needed.
    I recently sold on a Macintosh SE that featured their earlier sticker and still had their customized install of System 6 on the drive, with the long-form name of the acronym above in place of the "Welcome to Macintosh" screen.
    Pleased some machines were rescued - I see these old boxes going into recycling from time to time and always attempt to rescue them whenever possible. Would've been a shame to see some of those shredded, especially the NEC; those old Japanese machines are seriously cool.

  • @illtrigger85
    @illtrigger85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was also able to salvage an old pentium 4 pc that was stashed away at the back of the office where I work. Always felt good to clean, restore and get that old pc working. I was also able to add an agp video card which i had from 2004 from my old computer from college. It was fun to play those old games. Nostalgia trip from my college days :-D

  • @MissingPatel
    @MissingPatel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:06 TRIGGERED MY TRYPOPHOBIA! I AM STILL SHUDDERING!
    Edit: Sorry for caps

  • @aaronring4704
    @aaronring4704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I had the P1, 90MHz version of that Acer! It was the first computer that I bought new, as opposed to being a hand-me-down. A buddy and I would play Warcraft 1 over null modem! Hit me hard in the nostalgia seeing you open that up...

  • @bassanup
    @bassanup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW.... can't wait for the videos on these ones

  • @Top_Q7
    @Top_Q7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best informing video thank you sir for informing us and letting us know!

  • @mrvomit101
    @mrvomit101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun Fact: This was posted around the same time I saved a Pentium 2 Windows ME Computer from going to the tip. It was just sitting on the side of the road for collection.

  • @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
    @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So many great videos to come in the future 👌

  • @tulippasta
    @tulippasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brooooo these computers are sick. You lucky bugger! Nice vid, thanks for sharing

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was rewatching a bunch of your videos yesterday hoping that I get to see a new one soon xD

  • @bygonebunny1563
    @bygonebunny1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s amazing to me that people just throw out computers that still function. Like maybe I’m just a pack rat but I always only imagined people throwing out old tech if it was broken/didn’t turn on at all and they didn’t know how to or couldn’t fix it. And that’s coming from someone that isn’t good with tech maintenance myself.

  • @Joel-ew1zm
    @Joel-ew1zm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That NEC is a piece of history. 1984 was the infancy years of the x86 PC, definitely worth a restoration!

  • @fab555trainspottingandmore
    @fab555trainspottingandmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats insane that such a pc cost 3000-6000$ in the 90s but now you can buy them for 50-500 $

  • @mitchellvanvliet
    @mitchellvanvliet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy does that flat dell bring back memories.
    That was the first PC we ever had when I was about 10 years old.
    There were some offices that were getting rid of these in big quantities and you could pick them up cheap.
    As a kid I played so many games on that thing and the occasional book report. It came with this massive matching CRT screen that weighed more than I did.
    No idea what happened to it, we probably threw it out. Wish I still had that around!

  • @SkylarsTerribleMemes
    @SkylarsTerribleMemes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i work at an electronics recycler, really wish i had the time to make videos out of some of the stuff i find lol

  • @MrGaminggalaxy1
    @MrGaminggalaxy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the same Acer aspire when I was younger as my first ever PC running windows 95, then later 98SE. I remember playing lemmings and duke nukem on this machine.
    fun fact, there’s USB ports under that square panel on the back. I used one of them to power USB speakers.
    Oh boy, what a time to be alive looking back 🤩

  • @SandsOfArrakis
    @SandsOfArrakis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second one brings back memories. Used to have the same green Acer Aspire at home, complete with matching 15" screen, keyboard and mouse.
    It came with a Pentium 200, 64 mb of RAM, 2 gb hard disk and a S3 graphics card. Probably a Trio or a Virge. It ran Windows 2000 Professional SP4 beautifully.
    Bought it from a friend who got it from a local bank when they upgraded their PC's.

  • @VistaLover8002
    @VistaLover8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!!

  • @johntanner611
    @johntanner611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content! Will you be doing a video about how your laptop has done for your workflow since you've swithced to it?

  • @tanjl6683
    @tanjl6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sheesh that was such a smooth sponsor transition!

  • @typicaltar3q
    @typicaltar3q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, Mate! Keep up the Good Work! ❤👍🏻

  • @BOBXFILES2374a
    @BOBXFILES2374a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I...admit I still have my 386. It weighs at least 20 pounds, and was seemingly built to last until 2001! It clicks when it boots up.

  • @12fishcake
    @12fishcake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff!
    I actually have a bunch of older pcs in my possession. About 6 pcs ranging from 5 to over 20 years old. I think the oldest one is running windows 95 still! Since me and my mum never like to throw away old computers, I keep them all in a spare room.
    Thing is I'm kind of out of space, so sadly they're going to have to go at some point if i can't repurpose somehow. Besides salvaging any old files that may be knocking about on them though, I don't really know what to do with them and it seems a shame if they could serve a purpose. All windows pcs by the way.
    I can think of two things, taking all the harddrives together for some extra (somewhat bulky) memory space or making one of the newer ones into home server.
    I had a bright idea of taking all the parts and combining them, but most of them are so outdated now that I don't expect the hardware to be of much practical use besides maybe the harddrives. I don't suppose the ram in them will be of much good since they're mostly all different makes and sizes.
    Any ideas what else I could do with them, or where I might find some pointers?

  • @T3CHGY007
    @T3CHGY007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Psivewri ……. The saviour of computers!

  • @brockenconsole8678
    @brockenconsole8678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay you saved them:)

  • @user-et1vj1oz3f
    @user-et1vj1oz3f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice retro PC!

  • @davidewhite69
    @davidewhite69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one correction, technically Hypertec were not a manufacturer, rather they were an assembler of components. the only thing they manufactured but was probably done by a third party was the badge

  • @RoyAntaw
    @RoyAntaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an NEC APC III with two external 10MB hard drives. Which ran MS-DOS with MS FORTRAN and a third party C compiler. I also had a 300/1200/2400 baud external Serial Dialup modem for dialling into work's VAX 11/780.

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez
    @AlejandroRodolfoMendez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a cga to vga device could help you with the older pc.
    Great findings, I hope you can restore these computers.

  • @fluffycommander
    @fluffycommander 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when you say Compooter

  • @ninodesbordes9471
    @ninodesbordes9471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    new sub lol
    i love vintage pc from the 80s

  • @anthonynorton666
    @anthonynorton666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trailers, I can hardly wait for the videos.

  • @ububnomnom9559
    @ububnomnom9559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUCH A BIG FAN

  • @bluppy1
    @bluppy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! The sponsor ad transition was smooth

  • @mkonji8522
    @mkonji8522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That NEC is so nice. I looked and would love to see a restoration of it sometime. We got them as the pc-8801 here in Japan and Id be curious of the difference.

  • @agentburningbutters3655
    @agentburningbutters3655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make a stonk market for having all these computers!

  • @macblink
    @macblink ปีที่แล้ว

    4:57 good old hammer to protect whatever was in there 😅

  • @playtech7165
    @playtech7165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you can make a video for each of these old PCs, restoring them. I would like these restoration videos to be a little longer than what you usually do, 15-20 minutes would be a more than acceptable time for each video

  • @psychoticgiraffe
    @psychoticgiraffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing gods work Nathan

  • @marcinxsinski
    @marcinxsinski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Acer looks so cool

  • @Very_Dark_Engineer
    @Very_Dark_Engineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Nec APC III" is absolute miracle.

  • @poxiyy
    @poxiyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice retro pcs keep it up :D

  • @navaro1060
    @navaro1060 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember i bought that creative cd drive for 60 usd. And it came with remote controller. Imagine in 1997 you control your cd drive with ir remote. Mind blowing. Even today standar dvd rom dont have remote

  • @WarriorRev6300
    @WarriorRev6300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More recycled computers = More entertainment from psivewri

  • @drawingpat
    @drawingpat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to retro these up with new parts inside of them haha

  • @drummergirl4239
    @drummergirl4239 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nathan: cash converters
    Me: me, religious dankpods watcher: CASHIES

  • @therealdjflip
    @therealdjflip 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:15 i remember that stick on pc's when I was at school in the 80s and 90s

  • @jasongee7668
    @jasongee7668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Howdy fellaw, I worķ for ERA and I've kept aside a few of these pc's. I've also gotta few killer old school ones.

  • @ashiapmanman
    @ashiapmanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    200k pog👀

  • @rolvs
    @rolvs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used the Acer computer many years as an linux based ISDN router! Worked perfect with a isa ISDN card and Slackware! Good memories!

  • @sgtpeppers3021
    @sgtpeppers3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The end credits music is awesome

  • @mattrichardson4351
    @mattrichardson4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s awesome 🤟🏼🤟🏼

  • @californiafox3974
    @californiafox3974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those old computers are cool. My mom used to use a 2006 Hyundai monitor, it still works but my mom upgraded a few years back.

  • @janquieldapper
    @janquieldapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wowww... a lot of old computers! Waiting for de Acer, totally diferent machine for 90s commom computers.