Using An Old Windows ME PC! Big Mistake?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Let's try gaming and refurbishing this ancient Windows ME computer tower :) Does it still work after sitting around for many years? Let's find out :) #retro #WindowsME #Gaming
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System Specifications:
233MHz AMD K6-2 Socket 7 CPU
128MB 133MHz SD-RAM
3.2GB Seagate Hard Disk
8MB 3DFX VooDoo II 3D Accelerator
4MB S3 Virge DX Graphics Card
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Im definetly glad i subscribed hope you make it to 100,000!!!!
Psivewri been (watching) since you were at 48k!
Psivewri Unfortunately I haven’t been subbed that long :(
Brought a smile to my face
0:53 *WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY PC*
Sepehr S. w0t
@@gameboygreat5626 Shrek says "WHAT ARE YOU DOING MY SWAMP!"
but it was chaged to PC
Nothing...just nothing!
person who watches youtube r/woooosh
sheit
"Seems as if the previous owner was a fan of Shrek."
*We have a real Sherlock Holmes on our hands here*
its dankpods 100%
That was definitely a loved computer. Looks like well over a half a decade of solid use, especially with the video card upgrade. Definitely some gaming going on. Glad you picked it up and gave it new life.
considering the desktop background was shrek 2 and it had 128mb sticks of ram in it i'd say it saw a decade of use at least lol
2019: Using an old windows me in 2019
2039: Using an old windows 10 in 2039
@Boris Sladakovic 3059 using an old windows supernova ultra extra 9000k, oh wait humatity is gone
2079: Using an old MicAppleSoft v1 in 2079
Windows 10 won't be usable in 2029
Windows 10 might be renamed as only "Windows" in the future. Similar to what apple did to MacOs.
2020: stopped being an idiot, and switched to Linux
I think the motherboard is bent, not the RAM modules.
Agreed.
Yea. I fear he is referring to the DIMM "slots" on the motherboard (please stop calling it a logic board!) as DIMMs. A DIMM is a memory module, "dual inline memory module.
Yup
Should just throw away the motherboard and get another one
I agree, the bend is quite significant. The retention clips are holding the DIMMs in place, but the pins on the stick are visible.
1:00 So it's a safe bet you haven't played with Windows 2000 either. Windows ME and 2000 had the same startup chime.
same Os but in other names
Windows 2000 is what I grew up with. It was a beige Dell Optiplex GX1 from my dad's workplace after they switched to modern laptops. That startup brings back so many memories.
@@iClone101 I installed Windows 2000 alongside Windows 98 SE on the first computer I built. Windows 98 became a huge waste of space on my hard drive because I spent most of my time booting into Windows 2000.
And what a SWEEEET tone it was, especially because when you heard it, you knew things were working lol!
@@officialshura214 actually windows me is based off of the 9x kernel (based on ms-dos) while 2000 is based off of windows nt (at the time new and purely 32-bit os)
This isn't quite what I should be doing at 4AM but I don't regret it
Lmfao
I finished it at 3AM. I really need a job or some shit.
@@gt362gamer Some shit yeah
forget the job!
>;o#)
Tf are u doing at 4am?
windows ME, the operating system where you can bypass the login with just pressing escape instead of typing your password
That takes u to a guest login
is true, but the network access is disabled
I can't think of a more fitting wallpaper for this legendary OS
That K6-2 processor is a good CPU, but it is still a low-end processor to be running Windows Millennium Edition. 128 MB of RAM will make a huge difference in performance for most tasks.
That board uses both EDO RAM and SDRAM. I’m impressed. I’m sure they board has a physical addressing limit of 128 MB, so it didn’t matter how much RAM you installed.
Very nice work cleaning up the system!
I was 6 years old back in 2003 when I used to play Yetisports mini games on my sister's boyfriend's Windows XP PC... The shrieking sound of a chunky 56K dial-up modem was such an earache
As a fellow south Aussie with a youtube channel I say a big howdy fellow youtuber and I'm loving your videos definitely takes me back especially the load up music ahhh memories keep up the good work!
"This program has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down. If problem persists, contact the program vendor."
Lastdon56 Common crash error on my 1997 era Windows 95 IBM Aptiva “machine” ...as well as some decent Blue Screens of Death.
To avoid electrocuting yourself, short each of those large capacitor’s legs with an insulated needle nose plier or a wide flat-head screwdriver, do discharge and neutralize them. Expect a spark, and a pop. You could also use a high ohm resistor to short the capacitors, to avoid sparks, and being startled.
FBI OPEN UP!!
The term 'illegal operation' is particularly mind blowing.
OMG, This error message haunts me since my childhood. I remember to broke my new Windows ME PC on the first hours of use.
Wow. That’s the exact same case, mobo, S3 graphics card, CD-ROM drive (top one), and processor I bought as a barebones kit from some vendor advertising in Computer Shopper way back in ‘98. It was my first PC build. Talk about a blast from the past!
Windows ME on 1997/1998 hardware, it's kind of slow but at least it works.
ME is almost the same as 98 SE, just loaded with a few more features (and bugs) :D
@@crashbandicoot4everr There have been a lot of fanmade fixes that take care of ME enough to be stable.
@@crashbandicoot4everr 98SE is still "new" for that kind of hardware, I'll never understand why more of those retro scene people don't just use Windows 95
@@RWL2012 It's infamous driver issues.
That was also the Windows 2K boot chime, very nostalgic
You should got up PhilsComputerLab for some assistance on upgrading this beast. Compact flash, CPU, vram, ram etc. Also that PSU is a time bomb!
Agreed, and finding an old 1024X768 LCD monitor is a must for a system like this. I fairly regular see people throwing out old eMachines monitors like that at my local thrift stores, and keep one myself in storage in case I ever need it.
@@CommodoreFan64 Over the years I've owned well over 50 LCD monitors like that, however I never thought I'd ever need one 😅
@@psivewri When I first met my girlfriend, she was like why do you keep all these older computer parts, and such, then a few days later her laptop started acting up, said bring to me, her HDD had crapped out, I walked to my bin of laptop drives I had salvaged, pulled out a near matching drive put it in, installed Linux Mint Mate on it, said I just save you $200 USD taking it some place else to get fixed, and she's never questioned me again when I find stuff while out on a thrift hunt, so I always keep at least one or 2 of an item I think I might need in the future either for myself, or someone else.
@@psivewri hey, i can send you one if you want!
@@psivewri you scored big with the Voodoo 2, great find!
I am still using MS-DOS with a CRT 14" monitor for my daily tasks.
I'm assuming that you didn't use it to type this.
Buy Windows 10 from Microsoft. Com
@@RobbDrew03 Not everyone can afford windows 10
Why?
GrimHunter42 because it is still the best desktop operating system with thousands of proprietary and shareware/freeware software around, software that is often better and aesthetically more pleasing to the eye and ear than todays modern bloatware written by idiots from India.
Loved it! Some suggestions: You could have tidied up the cables, especially the flat cables, using nylon cable ties. It would look better if you set the case display with the K6 CPU clock in use.
0:10 What a back panel! This is way, way older than a standard era-appropriate WinMe machine would be! Very much early Win95 or even 3.1 kind of machine... Numberless upgrades (RAM maxed to what the motherboard can take, cd burner, and so on) kind of mask that, but serial and parallel ports on dedicated plates, XT style keyboard port... really primitive.
if you have trouble getting ram sticks in, wipe their contact area with wd40, contact cleaner, silicone oil, or 3in1 oil spray, it'll greatly help them slip in, also brush all plug and socket contacts similarly
4:02 - if no one pointed out already, Duke Nukem 3D was not using 3D accelerator mostly due do to the fact - it's not a 3D game, but rather "2.5D", as it's been called. Quake 2, on the other hand, uses a real 3D engine and hence can take advantage of hardware 3D acceleration. Otherwise, cool video! :)
This was a great restoration video! Also a pretty nice machine with lots of PCI cards :)
You are the best. I enjoyed restoring this type of computers and it takes a lot of time, most of the times is not worth it. I have still some laying around. Two suggestions for other videos; a 486 and a thin client capable of running xp games.
It's loud? Strange...These old PCs were actually more silent than today's systems, good thing you pointed that out. It could've gone unnoticed. Good job taking it apart BTW!
You got a good retrogaming PC here. You should install Windows 98 SE though, to get this MSDOS glory and better drivers for the voodoo
Becuase people have been asking: the reason why Apple calls them "logic boards" is because the original Macintosh models had a CRT monitor built-in and thus it required 2 main boards to work: the "analoge board" which contained the systems' mainly high-voltage analogue electronics required to drive the CRT and the power supply. The "logic board" contained all of the digital circuitry (CPU, RAM, etc). The last Mac to feature an analogue board was the eMac as it was the last Mac to ever feature a CRT monitor built-in. Apple still calls them "logic boards" because that's what they have always called them. Hope this explanation helps :)
0:52
SOME...
0:53
...BODY ONCE TOLD ME THE WORLD IS GONNA ROLL (Windows) ME
That system looks very nice for running Windows ME. Standards look pretty beefy for this timeframe. With appropriate hardware, looks great for gaming.
I used to jam a piece of thick cardboard to raise the bent part of a board while screwed in tight at both ends. This will help straighten the board a bit
Nice restoration !
I found some useful informations for your PC :
The motherboard is a PCChips M575. (Shady motherboard manufacturer, but as long it works, it should be allright). The "TXpro" chipset is actually and ALi M1531 (Aladdin IV+) so if you need drivers for it, look for that instead. You should be able to enable USB somehow, maybe you need some driver for that or you have to enable then in the BIOS.
Also check for that number, you should find some website named "elhvb" where they let you download an archive containing the latest bios, some drivers and jumper settings for CPUs ! They even show you what settings to use with a K6-2 300, so you can run it at its maximum speed :)
Also, you might want to consider to downgrade to Windows 98SE : Windows ME has many disadvantages over Windows 98. Windows ME's DOS is really really bad to run old games (almost as bad as windows xp's) while 98's is pretty much the best version of DOS. Also 98 can do pretty much all what ME can do (though you have to install everything it lacks yourself while it's packed in the install disc for ME).
Last but not least, if you plan to play DOS games, I recommend you to install a different sound card that the one integrated on the mobo. Brands like Yamaha (ISA or PCI), Creative Labs (ISA only) or ESS (ISA or PCI) should do the trick very nicely :)
Other than this, the bend on the board looks very bad, I'm surprised it's still working, hopefully you can fully get rid of it ...
Do you have drivers for vx pro ii im just asking
About the power supply, yes you can put a mechanical power switch on an ATX one, there is one green wire that goes to the motherboard, stripe it plus one black ground cable, then solder them to the switch.
You may also make an adapter for the motherboard with a little soldering, for that, please refer to the wire colors, it's normalized!
My first pc was in this same case, damn near impossible to find to find one nowadays to re-live my childhood.
Mine had a Pentium 100 in it but damn did I always want one of those K6's, especially now as you can download some software called Setmul and disable L1/2 cache and get those old timing sensitive games like wing commander working great.
I think I saw ME on the BSOD more than actually being used.
I'd love nothing more than to find one of those beige boxes from the '90s and turn it into a sleeper PC.
Ok, hear me out. That case would make a rather nice sleeper pc!
It would indeed. That motherboard was essentially a 'sleeper' type mod in its day. It was designed specifically as an upgrade path for those still putting along with AT-type Socket 7 rigs. By swapping this into your AT box, you could keep most of your Socket 7 hardware and get the upgrade path of Super-7 chips from AMD and Cyrix. Where Intel stopped with 233 Mhz Pentiums, Super 7 chips were running much faster! Notice when he's pulling the mobo out of the case - he mentions the two different types of RAM slots, but doesn't notice that the board has both AT and ATX power connectors. Yes, it could work with either type.
No
This "sleeper pc" thing is literally retarded. I've used the same PC case since 2006. Why buy another one??? I have no problems with cooling and it does it's job. It's had like 8 different mobos in it, high end GPUs for it's time, and now has no older than 2016 stuff inside. Idk why would you even spend money on a PC case.
I had a similar PC back in the day, although my CPU was the very first Atlhon CPU, and the graphics were rendered via a Vodoo 3 3000 video card - quite a great combo, I may say. The sound card was a Creative Soundblaster PCI 128, and I had tons of fun playing awesome games in the mid to late ´90s!
*Psivewri, The Savior Of Elder PCs*
My first PC was actually a Windows Me machine, with a P3 700Mhz, 64MB RAM and a Nvidia Riva TNT2 graphic card... I can never forget the first time I used it
For anybody watching, you can fix a warped PCB if you are very careful. With a cheap toaster oven you don't want to use as food, preheat it to 200 F. Clamp the PCB onto a flat piece of wood, and let it sit in there for potentially a few hours. 200 F won't remelt the solder, and the time and heat should help straighten parts out.
Windows Me was my first pc OS... it was quite good for my high school things and I could even play some games and PSX emulators
the same bootup sound is used in win2k which is OS that I used for majority of life so until 2013
so nostalgic and familiar
Nice video and nice lounge music on the background! Cheers, mate!
The "in current year" genre of videos is my favorite.
That would be a great windows 98se/DOS machine.
I think it originally came with windows 95 or 3.1
@@Skiedeagle proper
I really like these restore videos, very relaxing.
Wow .. Duke nukem, NFSSE2,Motocross madness , AOE 2 .. felt like I played all of them yesterday
Thanks psivewri! I have a compaq persario 6000 windows xp desktop and the cd drive got stuck but i used your advice from another video and hydrated the band! Now it works!!! Now the only thing left is to find the restore cd 😅
More videos about this machines, Yes???
Good stuff. I still have my first computer from 1995 when I was 10.
1:07 theres something we all have in common mate. #Shrekgang
Well it only took literally three months worth of uploads to get past all the apple bs and get back to the normal PC related content that made this channel a joy to watch. I'm happy to see it come back and hope it's a taste of things to come.
PS: Not a hater, actually am subscribed. Just not a fan of poncy apple rubbish and would rather spend my time enjoying the great PC related content this channel did a lot in the past.
The s3 Virge dx is a very early 3D card
Windows Me can indeed play many of early 2000s 3D games (including GTA San Andreas) if only you have compatible hardware with Me, which is very unlikely in the current age.
Between jumpers and the bios you should be able to get that memory recognized up to 512 mg. A minor cpu overclock could also be fun and help a lot with chopping on games.
I might have to look at that 🙂
He has a matching mouse and keyboard for the machine, but the monitor looks like something straight from my school. Damn that shit gives me OCD
What an era that was. Awesome!
12:02 Literally man, I know how that would feel like!
You can always tell a Mac techie by the way they call motherboards "logic boards" in non-mac systems too
Countless hours tweaking irq settings to get the computer to run dukenukem to play nicely on my old Win95 machine...
Cool video and it cleaned up really nicely! Also, ME was a bit of a heap of junk but it seemed to run quite well on this system. I'd be tempted to have it run '98 or 2000 though.
There is one thing I noticed about your voice over. Your terminology (Logic Board, Ram DIMMs, Physical power switch, drive cover plate, com port) is completely different and sometimes even false (DIMM is actually the memory stick, not the slot). It makes me wonder where you got your computer knowledge. This remark is definitely not meant in a negative way, I highly enjoyed the video but because there were so many instances of this happening I just started wondering; how come you seem to have your own terminology? :D.
Thanks for saving that computer! More people should go about doing this, really. And not just with computers.
A couple things. 1: Your K6-2 CPU is actually a 300MHZ chip, not a 233. 2nd: even if all your RAM fit in there properly it wouldn't read more than it has.
Both of those issues are a limitation of the motherboard. It is a Socket 7 system, which is limiting your performance quite a bit. What you should look for is a Super Socket 7 motherboard. It is a revision to the original Socket 7 that enables more RAM to be used as well as faster CPUs (and will allow your CPU there to clock to its full speed). Basically, when Intel abandoned Socket 7, manufacturers like AMD, Cyrix, and VIA wanted to continue to keep making chips based on Socket 7, but as performance started to lag they updated the spec to be more Super. Eventually AMD maxed out what was capable on the socket with the K6-3 550 MHz. From there AMD moved onto Slot A, and then Socket A with the original Athlons.
I was thinking. Man, on my childhood PC of that age I played Monster Truck Madness 2. Then you did!!!!!
Thanks for the video! A few quick thoughts: You should Google "How to discharge power supply capacitors." (I would just tell you but I'm not a licensed electrician.) After I found out how easy it was to do what electricians do, I wasn't nervous working with power supplies anymore. Rubber bands will break down over time and stop doing their jobs. They will then crumble apart and/or become sticky. Zip ties are a better idea. Finally, I'm not sure the paint pen is enough to stop further rising. Most people who do refurbishment remove the rust. I believe Adrian Black covers this well. HTH!
further *rusting
I had a Windows 95 when i was a child and i what later Windows XP and then Windows 7 and now Windows 10.
Greetings from Rotterdam into Netherlands.
Windows 2000 was better than Me. I used to have an old PC with Windows Me and it was always crashing and freezing up and very unstable. Ended up removing Me and installing Windows 2000 instead. Couldn't be happier.
My Grandparents had a Windows Me system back in the day, it always went wrong and they would always call me to fix it.
My first Windows computer had the same housing . Good old memories :oooo
quite a machine back in day and "logic board" who calls it that ? like ever ..lol
It looks like a PC that someone could throw out next to a trash can
I remember my Windows ME days, dam thing barely worked!
My first PC ran Windows ME. It eventually broke with all kinds of viruses and issues lol.
Wasn’t expecting to see that Shrek desktop background during the bootup
That boot up Chime was Also Used in Windows 2000
Try the Windows NT 4.0 ones as well.
Get a CRT monitor for awesome scaling! You can get it from a recycling center, a junk shop or some goodwill stores.
Absolutely brilliant video!
Good job. One thing that can be said for the old hardware, they did build it pretty well to last. That being said, I recently got a reconditioned HP Z620 with dual Xeon processors and a mere (ha) 96 GB of RAM. It's a bit of a beast and a long way from my first computer, a Sinclair ZX-80 with a Z-80 8 bit CPU and a whopping 1 K of RAM. How things have changed. Ironically, the cost has come down quite a bit. The Sinclair was the first under $200 - at $199.95. The HP? $560.
Actually thats the same start up sound from Windows 2000 Professional. Really miss that os and wish i could still use it. I mostly used it during the XP Era from 2000 to mid 2005 then xp from 2005 to 2007 which i ended up with Vista which would always crash then 2009 to current windows 7
My 1st PC was AMD K6. I am still using XP on my desktop. All my laptops are Win10 Pro.
There might be a setting within the menu options on the monitor to change to 4:3 screen. Worth a try if needed.
That's a beautiful machine. Beige is beautiful
Greetings From West Yorkshire: England d;-} Your such a funny guy referencing the pc motherboards as logic boards, but anywho I won't hold it against you 😂😉, just recently subscribed to your channel, really enjoy your subject matter, keep up the good work
Man those old school keyboard and mouse looks so clean and good. Can i have those lol
Looks like it was upgraded from a system even earlier than 1995.. The case looks like it was from the late 80s/early 90s with only an AT keyboard port
My first PC had Windows ME. I wish I still had it just for the old games! A lot of old games do not run on my new Windows 10 PC.
I miss this era of PCs. When it was worth fixing them. Now we just toss them away
3:48 AOE 2 , my first game ) i remember when in 2003 i play this game at game spy , with other player by Ip connection :)
I played Aoe too
@@Rupsytheknight this was a really good time 👍😎
Fantastic Work Mate
I guess, if this is what gives you joy, good for you. I like vintage computers but this is like restoring a '98 Ford Taurus. I built computers long before this hardware, and long after, and this computer is far from special to me.
My only guess of why it's capping itself at so much RAM is that the bios needs to be updated to handle more
Tip one, first open and clean a old pc, before booting. You have been lucky, it did not die!
using "logic board "and "motherboard"in the same video is confusing as hell. "logic board" is generally used when talking about old mac's not pc's.
The Windows ME startup/shutdown chime is my favorite of all time.
The CPU is K6-2 300mhz, but the bios displays only 233mhz, no wonder it runs slower.
That Cpu is not ment to be on that motherboard
That CPU is actually rated at 300MHz stock... You might want to check the jumper settings to get it perform as it should and why not try out how fast it can really go while you're at it ;)
i like the boot sound
How were you able to play games on DOS? I recall Windows ME took away much of the support for real-time MS-DOS functionality, which makes it less appealing for retro PC users to get since they use Windows 95/98 computers to play games both in DOS and Windows games of the late 90s to early 2000s.
At 8:26 into the video I can see it's a K6-2 300. BIOS or jumper settings are only making it run at 233MHz. You say 300MHz is the minimum for Me... this CPU is being underutilised.
I'm getting flashbacks from when i use to play simcity 2000 with my sister.
>Windows XP on a laptop
>Windows Me on a Desktop
At the thumbnail there is a small mini display beside the three buttons and the display said 66. 6