It’s funny how you can stablish wilhelm the third,the only dude in the german royal family that supported the nazis as kaiser and everyone is ok but when wilhelm the second is asked to be put in power,everyone starts going againt germany lmao
Well technically he's just a figurehead and he didnt rule directly in a world war against old powers so it would make sense for everyone to not get so mad
@@nohandleisavailable still,imagine fighting so hard to push out the nazis only the restorationists put a kaiser that has connections to the nazis as head of state
@@drknight8546 he never had connections to NSDAP lmao, he met Hitler a few times but they were both using each other, he wanted to use Hitler to restore the monarchy, which obviously Hitler would never agree to, he hated the monarchy and the royals, but he knew he could use them to get a lot of support, when he actually had power, he completely cut off the prince and never met him again, the Hohenzollerns were no friends of NSDAP, they were as much an enemy as the Weimar Republic was
@Mars Because it limits your gameplay. The main focus of the game is war, and democracies can only justify war goals against ppl who have created world tension or when world tension reaches 100%
I’ve always said that if you rush the research slots in the democratic Germany tree you can become extremely overpowered. Alternatively I’ve discovered that if you declare war on the Czechs and lose on purpose the French just change your government without puppeting you or taking your land. And you get to keep the normal focus tree… yeah it’s a bit broken
New Zealand's alternative Democracy path is the worst in the game as it just makes you independent from UK and makes you leave the Allies, that's it, it just ends
Honestly while democratic alt history paths have never really been the best paths, ive noticed all of them are roleplay gold, Like democratic japan becoming a custodian for a future democratic asia, and germany uniting europe against soviet expansionism... That shit is amazing.
The mod Großdeutscher Bund really puts you in the shoes of Germany uniting Europe against the Soviets and after you can truly unite Europe and form the European Union. "From Paris to the Urals"
Another awesome country to stay democratic with is Mexico. You can pretty easily conquer most of Latin America, and then turn your might against the US
I dont know how many times I have done Allies run as minor country only to end up being denied the territories in focus tree. Greece, Turkey, Netherlands etc.
I really like democratic paths for nations, in particular I like germanies Japan's and Netherlands, because it gives goals in them as well as the ability to fulfill them
20:07 If you want an even faster end to the civil war you can delete all your divisions, take the divisions of Manchuria and Manchukuo, place them strategically in victory points beforehand and start the civil war (Instant capitulation!!). (Not my idea, I got it from a different youtuber)
If I remember right there is even a chance that you can core west prussia and poznan as democratic germany since poland gives it to you when it dies to sovjet russia.
I'd say probably my favorite democratic path are Greece, megali idea is pretty much let UK and France kill turkey for you and get a bunch of land, and Bulgaria for the unifying the Balkans(though that's pretty much apart of all the paths)
I honestly like playing democracies. I don’t always want to conquer, I want to be a good boy who obeys international law and defends the lesser democracies from harm (even though i do minor democracies.)
Democratic Australia is my jam. Playing a nation that just has to hold out until your allies come to help is really tense and way more enjoyable than invading the Soviet union as a fascist.
I played Democratic germany and it was probably the easiest hoi4 game of my life. Despite playing on historical GB for some reason went fascist and declared war on france and usa and I managed to invite both of them into my faction. Thanks to that I managed to turn most major countries and basically all of europe against USSR. It was both easy and fun, it doesnt happen often to outnumber Soviet Union 3:1
12:26 No, you don't really want to do this. There is a 45% chance that it does not work out and then you loose 5% stability, which is way too much if you ask me. I had a game where this did not work for quiet some time and I lost like 30 stability
Average fascist fans: -Needs to expand early-game before the democrats become strong -thinking world conquest is fun for the 100th time Average democracy enjoyers: -enjoys handicaps -feels like the good guy -doesn’t need war as a way to expand
The only problem of democratic Germany is a lack of human power. I was left with one million, huge economy, lots of territories but sadly no army or navy in the end
It would be nice to have an option to play as an aggressive democracy in Hearts of Iron 4. Setting up your own faction and cleaning the world of communist and fascist bastards. Once I thought about Czechoslovakia having such an option, but it is very limited, because I had to set every major player as an aggresive asshole unless I wanted to use toolpack to declare wars.
IIRC, UK "no more appeasement" path does exactly that by allowing you to justify wargoal on nation that didn't generate world tention and giving you wargoal on every totalitarian European country
If you have the dlcs, build an intelligence network in germany and just leave it there. The combat buffs associated with having 100% intel are super strong, and it makes the ai just give up on attacking you if you also have half decent divisions. It turns into world war 1 and buys you tons of time.
The best democratic country has to be Italy now. If you start the monarchist tree there is a democratic branch, that still allows you to do your expansion focuses on the right.
I think that as democratic germany invading the soviet union, there should be events of ukrainians, bielorussians and other minorities revolting against soviet rule and joining your faction
Descrption of every coalition, based on ideolgy, on hoi4 (by a noob): - fascists. You wanna an easy win and make a no sense empire without any historical background. Oh and good luck with allies Communist: the world proletarians are happy. And you too, during ww2. When the war ends the nato will kill your coalition in some years Democratic: you can declare war on someone in 467897537883 years, but it doesnt matters, every one else will declare war on your coalition. ps: you have 10x industry of every one, so it will be easy Authoritarian: welcome to buthan ( or another small nation) you will remain here farming division with one infantry in. If you are in europe, germany will conquer you.
Mexican Catholic Democracy is OP too, you get ridiculous building bonuses and the hability to core the Caribbean, Central America and the US plus you have a free entry to te axis
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@@failuretv814 hey, at least it's not raid shadow legends
10:25 Based
my favourite country is north korea!
(please help)
It’s funny how you can stablish wilhelm the third,the only dude in the german royal family that supported the nazis as kaiser and everyone is ok but when wilhelm the second is asked to be put in power,everyone starts going againt germany lmao
Because hes js the constitutional monarch like queen elizabeth they basically have no power at all except the prime minister or the president
Well technically he's just a figurehead and he didnt rule directly in a world war against old powers so it would make sense for everyone to not get so mad
@@nohandleisavailable still,imagine fighting so hard to push out the nazis only the restorationists put a kaiser that has connections to the nazis as head of state
@@drknight8546 he never had connections to NSDAP lmao, he met Hitler a few times but they were both using each other, he wanted to use Hitler to restore the monarchy, which obviously Hitler would never agree to, he hated the monarchy and the royals, but he knew he could use them to get a lot of support, when he actually had power, he completely cut off the prince and never met him again, the Hohenzollerns were no friends of NSDAP, they were as much an enemy as the Weimar Republic was
@@drknight8546 wait.. this sounds very familiar
*Looking at Hirohito*
Democracy as a viable option in Hoi4?
Impossible
they should add a real election mechanic, like how it works in mods like Equestria at War
should give some flavor to democratic enjoyers
@@TheCatVtuberno just remove democracy
I play democracy most of the time and holy fuck it hurts
@@walter3719 a country needs to bomb another country, though. With a yin, there’s a yang.
@Mars Because it limits your gameplay. The main focus of the game is war, and democracies can only justify war goals against ppl who have created world tension or when world tension reaches 100%
I’ve always said that if you rush the research slots in the democratic Germany tree you can become extremely overpowered.
Alternatively I’ve discovered that if you declare war on the Czechs and lose on purpose the French just change your government without puppeting you or taking your land. And you get to keep the normal focus tree… yeah it’s a bit broken
I need to try that Czech thing, sounds like an interesting time
@@Ryukuro maybe it doesn’t work with the new peace deal so don’t be disappointed. I haven’t tried it recently
You could side with the democratic rebellion during that event too
@@ZemanTheMighty its work
yea like germany isn't already overpowered...
Ğ 31 is a certified Turkish moment. Thereby I award you, my Slovak brother as a honorary Turkish Community Member.
Thank you 🤝
As a Turkish Community Member, i approve the award. And hope the continuation of contribition to the community.
Indeed
@@mountaingeneral you are now officialy Turkish
I find myself preferred democratic Roman Empire over other based Roman empire path.
Roman Republic enjoyer
@@seatray_real Revolutionary Roman Empire, The Constitutional Monarcchy reigns!
@@seatray_real fax
I remember a mod that was called 'better democratic germany' and the last focus was 'abolish democracy +' lmao
New Zealand's alternative Democracy path is the worst in the game as it just makes you independent from UK and makes you leave the Allies, that's it, it just ends
peace is best option for new zealanders
It is excellent for trolling in multiplayer as you're actively refusing to be useful to the allies while also refusing to be useful to Japan.
You guys might not notice it but he’s roleplaying Turkey IRL lol
Erdogan simulator 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@mountaingeneral Erdogan on his way to be a mastermind of foreign diplomacy but fuck up in everything else 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🤘🤘🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@@mountaingeneral fu?k erdoğan :)
Honestly while democratic alt history paths have never really been the best paths, ive noticed all of them are roleplay gold, Like democratic japan becoming a custodian for a future democratic asia, and germany uniting europe against soviet expansionism... That shit is amazing.
The mod Großdeutscher Bund really puts you in the shoes of Germany uniting Europe against the Soviets and after you can truly unite Europe and form the European Union. "From Paris to the Urals"
I think that democratic Germany can actually annex Danzig and Posen if Poland is conquered by the USSR.
there's also events where danzig and austria join you by themselves, and czechoslovakia can do a focus to donate sudetenland
its Gdańsk and Poznań you nazi
@@evill01 how?
But the question is would core south tyrol too
@@willimeister2553 luck
Another awesome country to stay democratic with is Mexico. You can pretty easily conquer most of Latin America, and then turn your might against the US
yeah that conquring latin america focuses do not require any ideology and it is great
So Germany just forms the EU (war edition)
+ research slot
I dont know how many times I have done Allies run as minor country only to end up being denied the territories in focus tree. Greece, Turkey, Netherlands etc.
I really like democratic paths for nations, in particular I like germanies Japan's and Netherlands, because it gives goals in them as well as the ability to fulfill them
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Thanks for 31 Agency my Mountain Pasha, its so funny
Try Mexico democratic. You can get the entire central America as cores, and put everyone else in the Americas into your faction
20:07 If you want an even faster end to the civil war you can delete all your divisions, take the divisions of Manchuria and Manchukuo, place them strategically in victory points beforehand and start the civil war (Instant capitulation!!).
(Not my idea, I got it from a different youtuber)
I have exam tomorrow, but Plains Field Marshall had uploaded
If I remember right there is even a chance that you can core west prussia and poznan as democratic germany since poland gives it to you when it dies to sovjet russia.
Based democratic ideology enjoyer
Only thing i wish for is that they allowed puppets with democracies, it just makes sense
Yes and also justify on democracies with the intent to topple corrupted governments
I think that Bulgaria also have cool democratic focus tree
+2 building slots in every Balkan state is pretty good.
Mountain General, your English is very good!
This video about cake is very good too!
I'd say probably my favorite democratic path are Greece, megali idea is pretty much let UK and France kill turkey for you and get a bunch of land, and Bulgaria for the unifying the Balkans(though that's pretty much apart of all the paths)
10:23 the name is killing me lmao!
One of the better videos you've made my man! Great work!
Yo general, play plains huns aka Hungary
A Turkish Intelligence Agency by the name of 31? You know your Turkish slangs, greatest Slovakian general dude.
I honestly like playing democracies. I don’t always want to conquer, I want to be a good boy who obeys international law and defends the lesser democracies from harm (even though i do minor democracies.)
Democratic Australia is my jam. Playing a nation that just has to hold out until your allies come to help is really tense and way more enjoyable than invading the Soviet union as a fascist.
I played Democratic germany and it was probably the easiest hoi4 game of my life. Despite playing on historical GB for some reason went fascist and declared war on france and usa and I managed to invite both of them into my faction. Thanks to that I managed to turn most major countries and basically all of europe against USSR. It was both easy and fun, it doesnt happen often to outnumber Soviet Union 3:1
Loved your spy agency name for Turkey. Ğ 31 all the way. LOL
12:26 No, you don't really want to do this.
There is a 45% chance that it does not work out and then you loose 5% stability, which is way too much if you ask me.
I had a game where this did not work for quiet some time and I lost like 30 stability
Specific unique and niche focus trees are really refreshing when the last few DLCs were just "WAR"
fr
I love watching mountain general play swedish map game
that Ğ 31 got me
Average fascist fans:
-Needs to expand early-game before the democrats become strong
-thinking world conquest is fun for the 100th time
Average democracy enjoyers:
-enjoys handicaps
-feels like the good guy
-doesn’t need war as a way to expand
Yknow it is very true when teamwork makes the dream work
Had a bad day, MG uploads, day better 😀
Playing as democratic Czechoslovakia is kinda cool, u can resist and eventually beat the germans and form Austria-Hungary
26-minute video by Mountain General? Screw my math exam, I´m gonna watch this masterpiece!
My favourite
1 Japan
2 Turkey
3 Germany
thank you general for your content
Democratic Hungary. The most based focus tree in the game. Also, democratic independent New Zealand.
Nationalist China has one of the best democratic focus imo
10:05 based words bro
Democracy doesen't mean peace, if the people want war that is what they get. Italy is the most fun democracy.
The only problem of democratic Germany is a lack of human power. I was left with one million, huge economy, lots of territories but sadly no army or navy in the end
you are not slovenian you are turkish because you gave the agency name Ğ 31 the Ğ 31 meme is known by turks you are turkish
Tbh I prefer playing democratic I enjoy it a lot more than the other ideologies
Agency 31? Hahagaya I am turk so I get it, but I am confused how do you know that
Ğ 31, a fellow cultured man
I have two wolves inside me
Democratic Turkey - Kemalist Turan
It would be nice to have an option to play as an aggressive democracy in Hearts of Iron 4. Setting up your own faction and cleaning the world of communist and fascist bastards. Once I thought about Czechoslovakia having such an option, but it is very limited, because I had to set every major player as an aggresive asshole unless I wanted to use toolpack to declare wars.
IIRC, UK "no more appeasement" path does exactly that by allowing you to justify wargoal on nation that didn't generate world tention and giving you wargoal on every totalitarian European country
I keep on thinking you’re Romani because your accent gives me strong Castlevania vibes 😂
Lol
He is the strongest slovakian Chad wtf r ya tlking abt
I always disliked how the German democratic tree is purely a videogame meta multiplayer tree instead of an actual historical path.
'A little bit longer video' bro I'd watch a 10 hour video if you released it - can never have enough Slavic mountain time!
Ong
Me who chose the kaiserreich path and is now at war with poland and the soviet union: oopsie
9:51 if the blue lobster even is on a HOI4 video… where can I be safe? Can we even escape it?
Is there a mission to restore the Ottoman sultan at the same being Democratic?
I’d also like to see you give Democratic France a try, since I’m having a hard time
If you have the dlcs, build an intelligence network in germany and just leave it there. The combat buffs associated with having 100% intel are super strong, and it makes the ai just give up on attacking you if you also have half decent divisions. It turns into world war 1 and buys you tons of time.
Don't abandon the Czechs and you will have a way easier time
I refuse to believe there's any path but the ottoman path for turkey
"if anything bad happens to turkey, it is deserved" didnt age well lmao
“A country where nothing bad ever happenes, but if it did it would be deserved.”
Its Armenia genocide reference
@@mountaingeneral Based lol.
Mountain General pronouncinc Yahaha is too cursed 💀💀
I always let soviet cap Poland to gain free Danzig and Pozen
As Democratic Germany enjoyer i say it's 99% accurate
I can't tell if you actually have a slavic / russian accent or if your just meme'ing MG but either way I enjoyed the video so thanks tovarisch ^~^
He's a Slovak.
11:38 i cannot agree more. just look at him man
Have you tried playing a game with Slavic303
my first hoi4 game was no dlc democratic Germany
The best democratic country has to be Italy now. If you start the monarchist tree there is a democratic branch, that still allows you to do your expansion focuses on the right.
ah yes Great Turkish intelligence service the Ğ 31
Every Democratic Path be like:
be democracy
form some gigantic alliance with like 3 majors and 10 minor nations
"liberate" countries
I think that as democratic germany invading the soviet union, there should be events of ukrainians, bielorussians and other minorities revolting against soviet rule and joining your faction
Would be cool
Texan Monarchy game play please!
6:35 "Mongolian-Dutch War" what
Since when did they extend the tech tree of Germany and Japan?! Is it a mod or a DLC? can you tell me what it is?
DLC Waking the Tiger
@@mountaingeneral thanks
@@dragorosso-pg9gb No problem
i love MG's vids
I lovbe Democracy and freedom✊
какой-то русский акцент
You can get Syria as Turkey if uk owns syria
MG, can you kindly play the wrost and best monarchist paths? Always watching your quality videos. ^^
>germany
>democracy
this is gonna be good
“The EU would be a lobster” 😂
How did you forget Greece? They can go from a weak Balkan minor to a transcontinental great power in just 4 years as a democracy.
10:23 I really like the name
What about democratic Mexico?
german jihad im dio for laught
The Japanese tree was mid ngl
Hey mountain general
Best nation is Based Halal Independent Democration New Zealand!!!1!!!1!😎😎😎🇦🇮🇦🇮🇦🇮🇦🇮💪💪💪💪
Best democratic path is mexico. You still can get all the conquest focuses so its not boring
I played Democratic Republic of China
Cursed
Descrption of every coalition, based on ideolgy, on hoi4 (by a noob):
- fascists. You wanna an easy win and make a no sense empire without any historical background. Oh and good luck with allies
Communist: the world proletarians are happy. And you too, during ww2. When the war ends the nato will kill your coalition in some years
Democratic: you can declare war on someone in 467897537883 years, but it doesnt matters, every one else will declare war on your coalition. ps: you have 10x industry of every one, so it will be easy
Authoritarian: welcome to buthan ( or another small nation) you will remain here farming division with one infantry in. If you are in europe, germany will conquer you.
18:15 historically accurate
the iconic trio
Mexican Catholic Democracy is OP too, you get ridiculous building bonuses and the hability to core the Caribbean, Central America and the US plus you have a free entry to te axis
14:59 you could go for bulgaria earlier, instead of taking focuses with Germany, its your bad timings, not game
I remember playing democratic nations because I felt good beating the bad guys. Then I played Germany and Japan and I cant go back to that shit...
Could have let the Soviets defeat Poland, since Poland likes offering Germany back their land from WW1 if that happens