Bad:Greek monarchist path Bad: Romanian domination of Balkans Good: communist south Africa Bad: Right opposition Bad: Japan politics, all dominion except south Africa (personally like it) Czechoslovakia tree
By the way, Kun Béla becomes unavailable around 1938, because IRL he got shot in the purges, so he can only really be brought back if the Soviet AI (or player) decides to avoid the Great Purge.
Game: "Required more than 96000 manpower in Delhi" MG: "i have my 9000 manpower right here, i think the game is bugged" HOI4 players pass literacy test challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
@@allahstan4171 he was literraly proud of his father who fight against the confederates, i don't know what he want more to affirm that he wasn't anti confederate
The path of Communist Japan's "Fate of the Imperial Family" doesn't really makes sense since the player only receives -10% Stability and that's literally it. If it was much more accurate, you would lose -100% Stability because you are literally killing Japan (The Emperor).
I mean 10% isn’t enough to show the effects that would have but less ridiculous rapid social changes than the emperor’s divinity being questioned have been the norm in hoi4 focus trees for a while
Communist trees are usually pretty shitty. They all have the same layout: 1) Go Communist (either peacefully or by civil fun) 2) Join Comintern or have your own faction. And that's kinda it. You can have some kind of conquering but not that much.
Aside of Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, I guess you can have fun with Czechoslovakia (manpower to defend against Germans) and Baltics (nice for cooperative multiplayer) but that's basically it
The Thing about Bela Kun. He was Purged in the Soviet Union in the Late 1930s, so you were right on the money. That is why he "Magically Disappeared" from the focus tree. Sorry, nerd mode was here.
The American communist tree is a little interesting just because you can annex the entire Soviet Union if they are about to lose the war with an enemy so thats cool but yeah. Most the alt history paths for old DLC's are pretty outdated for sure. They need more role play and extra bonuses that change the gameplay for them to give you a reason to even go down those paths.
@@unbindingfloyd Probably the biggest part of them is the implied character assassination against the presidents. FDR wasn't a communist sympathizer and Landon (or ANY Republican in HOI4's timeframe) wasn't a neoconfederate. A communist revolution should be because you elected a market liberal sort of guy in 1936 and started rolling back the new deal (which while you can debate the effectiveness definately did keep enough Americans above water to stop them from radicalizing IRL), while the Neo-Confederates would probably rise up in response to the New Deal going harder (i.e. FDR/someone else trying to force the Dixiecrats to allow it to expand to cover black americans too or a Republican like Wilkie expanding it)
1:50 - You basically have to speedrun going Communist (IE tanking your Stability) to get Bela Kun and it's totally pointless because he has no unique traits or content. It's like getting the unique fascist leader in Brazil, only worse.
@16:15 About the Communist Britain, I once switched to communist but went to strengthen colonial ties instead of decolonisation. I got the civil war and then I created the communist federation, it's pretty nice actually!
It's not a broken option to get Béla-kun, but it's near impossible in historical AI-on. Kun Béla was purged by Stalin in 1938. If the soviets start the purge, you will just lose the option to get him. It's not broken, it's just shit.
@@LightgreenLP Hungary turns communist, just because the communists assassinate Horthy. "historical" At least when you make an a-historical communist path, you should provide some options, either call back Kun Béla for a leninist path, or choose Rákosi for stalinism. The communist hungarian tree is just shit.
@@LightgreenLP It was impossible before the Soviet DLC, because you couldn't turn Hungary communist fast enough, before the soviets finish the purge. It has no purpose and if you somehow managed to do that, it doesn't make sense. Kun Béla will never allign with Stalin if he has other choice, yet the hungarian communist tree is either form a faction and be the only member or join Commintern.
Ngl Communist Hungary could have potential, maybe a callback to the fact they where technically the first Communist Republic, maybe a path for Danubian SSR or some sort of Visegrad Communist faction where you get options to boost ideology in the Visegrad countries. Also cool thing with Communist UK how you can keep them as puppets with the secure the dominions focus, though when I tried it as Communist UK I couldn't keep india
1:33 counterpoint. MacArthur MAY have been crazy anti-communist, but he was also crazy patriotic. Also something unique about Communist States of America is that they have elections, and maintain many of the American institutions like the Senate. Therefore, MacArthur probably would think 'eh, good enough, this isn't my ideal America, but it's American enough, and as long as there are enemies to fight idgaf.'
Thr british communist path is actually pretty nice. Ye you lose the empire. But you get infinite MP and à very strong early industry for it. You can just steamroll germany or the US in 39. Also it is important to accept to lose India as it allows you to bypass 140 of bad focused
Hungary be like: Old folks: "Hungarian cummunism sucks" Hungarian people, who were born after the collapse of the soviet union, but old and serious enought to not play Hoi4: "We have to look deeper into that time period, to establish a reasanble relation to our socialist past." Young chad hungarians: "Hungarian cummunism sucks"
As someone who played communist Hungary: I was playing multiplayer, and tried to go for historical, but Germany clearly didn't know what he was doing. It was during the time you had to renew MEFO bills manually, and he forgot to do so. He was also very heavily went for civs while MEFO was active, and went for mils once it lapsed, so not even prepping for an early war, or he would have went for it sooner. The Romanian player and I just silently left the axis chat on discord, and we both went to papa Stalin for help in order to see what we can do for him. Yugo did the same. Italy very heavily encircled Belgrade and Yugo was fighting for their life when I managed to flip and join up, and Romania was still only around 40% commie, so I just went for it. I very quickly liberated Vojvodina for Yugo in order to keep his divisions and equipment in the fight, and with the rest of my meager army I managed to encircle the Italian army, as neither Italy, nor Germany paid attention to losing me and Romania. Of course once they noticed what is happening they went on a full assault against me, but by the time I was about to fall, Romania managed to flip to communist and their army, together with the soviet saved our bacon. The Italian army without equipment was quickly eaten by the Russians, despite having 0 org because of the purge. We then managed to barely hold the line while the Russians mitigated the purge, and once it was done, we just steamrolled Europe before the USA could join the Allies. It was the most fun game I had in HOI4.
As a Brit my problem with this was not the decolonisation but Argentina getting the Falklands which they have no right to they never held it and it's entire population is British people who wish to remain with britan
Надеюсь коммунистическая ветки обновят.Ибо у них два пути(Быть независимым или вступить в коммитерн)Не плохо было бы добавить коммунистический путь Германии
Technically if Germany goes Kaiser and encourages Austria Hungary to form you can go whatever ideology you want then when have enough neutral ideology get cores on all of Austria Hungary.
I think with how peace deals work now, it might be beneficial to actually allow the civil war to fire. IIRC puppets join the enemy side in a civil war, so if you win and get a peace deal, you can just annex not only the rival faction, but all the puppets as well. This way, you can do the Imperial confederation more quickly and more easily (having the puppets annexed enables you to skip most of the required focuses). I might be wrong about this, but I do know that you can still do the Reinforce the Empire branch as commie Britain just so long as you do the first focus before flipping. Also, when going commie Japan, releasing Korea is not a bad strategy because Manchukuo won't be able to annex it if it exists as a country and you could quickly rush to conquer Korea to use it as a more advantageous staging ground so that you don't have to deal with Manchukuo's navy. These paths are still terrible, though. Shouldn't have to play in these kinds of wonky ways just to enjoy the paths. They should just be innately fun.
Hey this was an *awesome* playthrough, your videos are always enjoyable to watch, do you think you could possibly do a Kaiserreich timelapse as the Fengtian Clique and unite China?
Thanks for the regular, great HoI4 games. Very awesome that you play all these bad focus trees to so we don't have to 😆Got a very cute persona, and your accent is very great IMO!
You could have kept Bosnia and Slovenia as Hingary and Proclaimed the Commune of Austria Hungary or whatever it is called Edot: also keep up great content
Honestly, so many communist trees were just designed and rushed, with barely any effort put into them, even when there could be realistic and detailed paths. The flags used to be just as bad.
8:13 It has its good side, germans would have a better idea of how to make gulyáshús or pörkölt. You really don't want to see the german attempts on this dish.
What are in your opinion best/worst paths of other focus trees?
Fascist UK is really fun
Manchukuo staying as a Japanese puppet.
Prob Turkey all paths
Any path other than Historical US is objectively worse.
Bad:Greek monarchist path
Bad: Romanian domination of Balkans
Good: communist south Africa
Bad: Right opposition
Bad: Japan politics, all dominion except south Africa (personally like it) Czechoslovakia tree
By the way, Kun Béla becomes unavailable around 1938, because IRL he got shot in the purges, so he can only really be brought back if the Soviet AI (or player) decides to avoid the Great Purge.
Bozo got what he deserved
I thought they fixed that by nsb right? or didnt they
No if he avoids the Great Purge, if he rushes to get him before 1938 u meant.
I saw a guide by someone ön how to do it fast
@@plc2424 Wdym "fixed"? It's not a bug lmao
How are you supposed to have someone as a leader who previously got shot in the head?
Game: "Required more than 96000 manpower in Delhi"
MG: "i have my 9000 manpower right here, i think the game is bugged"
HOI4 players pass literacy test challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
I is not capitalized.
@@rebelfriend9006 literacy test failed
*Literacy test failed successfully*
Dyslexia test passed
@@dwightd.eisenhower2031 Hypocrisy much.
Douglas MacArthur as a leader of Confederate States of America is unimaginably cringe. MacArthur should have it's own path as "American Caesar".
And MacArthur was also hardcore anti confederate
Yeah it is litteraly like if de gaulle son come in politic at the end of the game in France and said "fuck it, i'm a petainist"
He also opposed the idea of the military taking over the government during wartime
@@ABPHistory well his father was a unionist civil war veteran so a high chance he might hate the confederacy
@@allahstan4171 he was literraly proud of his father who fight against the confederates, i don't know what he want more to affirm that he wasn't anti confederate
Imagine being able to 100% the game and not have a weird bug where you can't get half of the spy related achievements for some reason.
I had the problems with that so I just switched to the version when La Resistance came out
As a Hungarian, I can say that your Hungarian was on point. Made my day to hear that, thank you!
Ennyi bazdmeg 😎
Missed opportunity to call Vienna Bécs.
The path of Communist Japan's "Fate of the Imperial Family" doesn't really makes sense since the player only receives -10% Stability and that's literally it. If it was much more accurate, you would lose -100% Stability because you are literally killing Japan (The Emperor).
I mean 10% isn’t enough to show the effects that would have but less ridiculous rapid social changes than the emperor’s divinity being questioned have been the norm in hoi4 focus trees for a while
Communist trees are usually pretty shitty. They all have the same layout:
1) Go Communist (either peacefully or by civil fun)
2) Join Comintern or have your own faction.
And that's kinda it. You can have some kind of conquering but not that much.
Don't forget killing stalin if you don't join the comintern
Except for yugoslavia, it is the only based commie tree
@@giganigga3025 Bulgarian one’s better in my opinion.
Oh yeah. I forgot ethiopian one. (Soviet is not that bad for me)
Bulgaria and yugoslavia have good ones but that's about it
Aside of Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, I guess you can have fun with Czechoslovakia (manpower to defend against Germans) and Baltics (nice for cooperative multiplayer) but that's basically it
Can we make Evil Mountain General an actual thing? Would be awesome for the channel lore.
The Thing about Bela Kun.
He was Purged in the Soviet Union in the Late 1930s, so you were right on the money.
That is why he "Magically Disappeared" from the focus tree.
Sorry, nerd mode was here.
The American communist tree is a little interesting just because you can annex the entire Soviet Union if they are about to lose the war with an enemy so thats cool but yeah. Most the alt history paths for old DLC's are pretty outdated for sure. They need more role play and extra bonuses that change the gameplay for them to give you a reason to even go down those paths.
That and you can technically do normal tree even if go communist I believe.
@@SoldierGeneral64 Yeah so at least you can do stuff at least. The US alt trees could use some work but aren't horrible.
@@unbindingfloyd Probably the biggest part of them is the implied character assassination against the presidents. FDR wasn't a communist sympathizer and Landon (or ANY Republican in HOI4's timeframe) wasn't a neoconfederate.
A communist revolution should be because you elected a market liberal sort of guy in 1936 and started rolling back the new deal (which while you can debate the effectiveness definately did keep enough Americans above water to stop them from radicalizing IRL), while the Neo-Confederates would probably rise up in response to the New Deal going harder (i.e. FDR/someone else trying to force the Dixiecrats to allow it to expand to cover black americans too or a Republican like Wilkie expanding it)
1:50 - You basically have to speedrun going Communist (IE tanking your Stability) to get Bela Kun and it's totally pointless because he has no unique traits or content. It's like getting the unique fascist leader in Brazil, only worse.
I had a look at the code. you can't get Bela Kun if Soviets have completed the focus "anti-soviet trotskyite centre".
Ahh, thanks
Oh god the Canadian health system joke is ☠️☠️☠️
In America you will either go broke paying for treatment or die, in glorious Canada we make it simple with only giving you second option 🇨🇦🇨🇦💪💪
@@xxxxxxxsnorlaxthose 32 week waiting times are rough too lol
As a canadian, it is true. If you can find a doctor that is.
When telling people to kill themselves is health care.
@16:15 About the Communist Britain, I once switched to communist but went to strengthen colonial ties instead of decolonisation. I got the civil war and then I created the communist federation, it's pretty nice actually!
I feel you Mountain General, can we end it all together. We will meet at the border between Greater Romania and Czehoslovakia see you there!
It's not a broken option to get Béla-kun, but it's near impossible in historical AI-on.
Kun Béla was purged by Stalin in 1938. If the soviets start the purge, you will just lose the option to get him.
It's not broken, it's just shit.
"shit" otherwise known as historical
@@LightgreenLP
Hungary turns communist, just because the communists assassinate Horthy.
"historical"
At least when you make an a-historical communist path, you should provide some options, either call back Kun Béla for a leninist path, or choose Rákosi for stalinism.
The communist hungarian tree is just shit.
@@StalkerQtya I was referring to the player being unable to get Kun after a while
@@LightgreenLP It was impossible before the Soviet DLC, because you couldn't turn Hungary communist fast enough, before the soviets finish the purge.
It has no purpose and if you somehow managed to do that, it doesn't make sense. Kun Béla will never allign with Stalin if he has other choice, yet the hungarian communist tree is either form a faction and be the only member or join Commintern.
@@StalkerQtya What you just said doesn't have anything to do with the fact that getting a dead Kun as your leader wouldn't make sense.
This is the first time I've seen a communist Hungary playthrough that looks fun. Amazing accomplishment
Ngl Communist Hungary could have potential, maybe a callback to the fact they where technically the first Communist Republic, maybe a path for Danubian SSR or some sort of Visegrad Communist faction where you get options to boost ideology in the Visegrad countries. Also cool thing with Communist UK how you can keep them as puppets with the secure the dominions focus, though when I tried it as Communist UK I couldn't keep india
12:39: "Nationalizing your industry always works well!" (irony)
South Korea: Yes.
Maybe the next HOI IV DLC should be about making the Communist paths better? Considering the Hungarian Communist tree has 8 focuses.
The only issue with this is, can you make dlc for dlc? Will Paradox do that?
I like these videos. They give you a look into trees/countries you would normally never have a reason to play as.
You know, For securing the dominions you use the normal infantry, they have the needed manpower.
1:33 counterpoint.
MacArthur MAY have been crazy anti-communist, but he was also crazy patriotic. Also something unique about Communist States of America is that they have elections, and maintain many of the American institutions like the Senate. Therefore, MacArthur probably would think 'eh, good enough, this isn't my ideal America, but it's American enough, and as long as there are enemies to fight idgaf.'
That Hungary playthrough was based af
I loved that when you captured Pearl Harbour, the only option to chose was for the emperor ( he is dead bruh)
Massive amount of trolling
You don’t have to decolonize, you just end up with a hilarious civil war
Try the "Red Hungary" mod
Thr british communist path is actually pretty nice.
Ye you lose the empire. But you get infinite MP and à very strong early industry for it. You can just steamroll germany or the US in 39.
Also it is important to accept to lose India as it allows you to bypass 140 of bad focused
The hungarian focus tree branch is so bad you can't bypass joining the commintern even if you are already part of the commintern.
Hungary be like:
Old folks: "Hungarian cummunism sucks"
Hungarian people, who were born after the collapse of the soviet union, but old and serious enought to not play Hoi4: "We have to look deeper into that time period, to establish a reasanble relation to our socialist past."
Young chad hungarians: "Hungarian cummunism sucks"
Mountain General can pronounce Saskatchewan better than most Canadians.
4:12 you know some hungarian 😳 ?
Huge respect
I have a Hungarian gf 🗿
Paradox: We're going to revamp all the old focus trees to be better. That will be £420.69.
Age of History II: Hahahahahahhahhh
I expect the addition of Evil MG as leader of Hungary in the Mountain General mod
Loving this worst/best ideology path series can't wait to see more MG!
As someone who played communist Hungary:
I was playing multiplayer, and tried to go for historical, but Germany clearly didn't know what he was doing. It was during the time you had to renew MEFO bills manually, and he forgot to do so.
He was also very heavily went for civs while MEFO was active, and went for mils once it lapsed, so not even prepping for an early war, or he would have went for it sooner.
The Romanian player and I just silently left the axis chat on discord, and we both went to papa Stalin for help in order to see what we can do for him.
Yugo did the same. Italy very heavily encircled Belgrade and Yugo was fighting for their life when I managed to flip and join up, and Romania was still only around 40% commie, so I just went for it. I very quickly liberated Vojvodina for Yugo in order to keep his divisions and equipment in the fight, and with the rest of my meager army I managed to encircle the Italian army, as neither Italy, nor Germany paid attention to losing me and Romania.
Of course once they noticed what is happening they went on a full assault against me, but by the time I was about to fall, Romania managed to flip to communist and their army, together with the soviet saved our bacon. The Italian army without equipment was quickly eaten by the Russians, despite having 0 org because of the purge.
We then managed to barely hold the line while the Russians mitigated the purge, and once it was done, we just steamrolled Europe before the USA could join the Allies.
It was the most fun game I had in HOI4.
If anyone is wondering at 3:39 the agency is in english called: from extra strong (or spicy) paprika
King George just chilling in Buckingham Palace hoping to god he doesn't end up like Tsar Nicholas.
I feel like Soviet's communist tree is best one out there
wonder why
No shit
>is 2am
>about to sleep
>mountain general releases video early
Bye Bye Sleep Schedule.
"Are you feeling like ending it all"
Well, finals are this week so yes
Hungarian Britain confirmed?????😳😳
Can you check out the best/worst non-alligned trees? They seem to be few and far between.
Yes 🗿
Spanish anarchist is technically non aligned
Best are Probably anarchist Spain, Monarchist portugal (union with brazil) and Britian
@@mountaingeneral yugoslavia
As a hungarian, i find it hilarious, that your good side is Slovak while you're evil side is evil just for being hungarian.
Thanks for the heart slovak man.
As a Hungarian from Poland, I smiled when I saw: Extra erős paprikából (from extra strong paprika) :3
As a Brit my problem with this was not the decolonisation but Argentina getting the Falklands which they have no right to they never held it and it's entire population is British people who wish to remain with britan
I sure love to play as real life humpty dumpty the egg in my ww2 simulator as hungary
Winter war never was pointless ,bloddy and disasterous but not pointless
Надеюсь коммунистическая ветки обновят.Ибо у них два пути(Быть независимым или вступить в коммитерн)Не плохо было бы добавить коммунистический путь Германии
"When I 100% this game I will k*ll myself."
Mood buddy. Mood.
Based video I really enjoyed it
Technically if Germany goes Kaiser and encourages Austria Hungary to form you can go whatever ideology you want then when have enough neutral ideology get cores on all of Austria Hungary.
Hello Islovakproductions.
Communist Hungary has so much potential, like you could revive Belá Kun
As a Canadian, that joke was so out of pocket, but do it again.
The world you created as japan is the best possible world ngl (mainly cause ima communist American lol)
My ranked teammates
I think with how peace deals work now, it might be beneficial to actually allow the civil war to fire. IIRC puppets join the enemy side in a civil war, so if you win and get a peace deal, you can just annex not only the rival faction, but all the puppets as well. This way, you can do the Imperial confederation more quickly and more easily (having the puppets annexed enables you to skip most of the required focuses). I might be wrong about this, but I do know that you can still do the Reinforce the Empire branch as commie Britain just so long as you do the first focus before flipping. Also, when going commie Japan, releasing Korea is not a bad strategy because Manchukuo won't be able to annex it if it exists as a country and you could quickly rush to conquer Korea to use it as a more advantageous staging ground so that you don't have to deal with Manchukuo's navy.
These paths are still terrible, though. Shouldn't have to play in these kinds of wonky ways just to enjoy the paths. They should just be innately fun.
Hey this was an *awesome* playthrough, your videos are always enjoyable to watch, do you think you could possibly do a Kaiserreich timelapse as the Fengtian Clique and unite China?
I haven't really played HOI IV in a year but I always watch all your videks
Thanks man
"Elect a communist king" focus when
Thanks for the regular, great HoI4 games. Very awesome that you play all these bad focus trees to so we don't have to 😆Got a very cute persona, and your accent is very great IMO!
Mountain General, I promote you to Mountain Field Marshall.
Hey, your voice is like a character in Henry Stickman
Honestly, I think that communist Hungary is good if you play MP with a friend on the USSR.
I was about to study but i saw mountain general released a new video
Good to see you post another video, comrade!
At 19:47 you can’t impose martial law in Raj because you need 10 divisions of 9600 manpower, it’s not bugged. There’s an extra 0.
Yeah I miss read that
Yoo first person on entire TH-cam who did communist Hungary part
ISP did it too
And he pointed out that final focuses hinge on Papa Stalin being generous to agree to your proposals kekw
You could have kept Bosnia and Slovenia as Hingary and Proclaimed the Commune of Austria Hungary or whatever it is called
Edot: also keep up great content
You cant form AH as Hungary unless you go directly to the path that forms it
@@mountaingeneral man that would've made commie hungary actually fun but no
@@mountaingeneral Really? That's dumb. If Croatia can formed AUH, and so can Czechia and Slovakia then why not Hungary
@@mountaingeneral also a bad Commie path in the USA one. No wargoals or anything. Just a civil war and giving the Phillipines freedom
@@truesurvivor585 Slovakia cant form AH
The sandwich wasn’t free after all😭
1:05 i did, im not joking that was one of the first paths when i played as hungary.
Communist countries works just as good in hoi4 as in real life
Dr phil what the fuck are you doing in Hungary?
With every video the thought you're one of the slovak flags on /pol/ is stronger
Please don't die you are my favorite TH-camr from [INSERT COUNTRY HERE]
22:30 You call "British Blitzkrieg" I call the true "British Biscuit" and soon we will have White House Tea Party.
Do it now with non alligned countries
4th worst is Yugoslavian path, because all you can do is make a faction and sitting with it. It's the same as German path of democracy
I love this Series could you do a worst monarchist or worst fascist path
😮
How does paradox make such bad focus trees and price them so high when members of the community make great creations for free?
Mounty Genneral here with another Hearts of Iron Video. Today we will crush the 14-year-old communists.
Ok, i checked and you can actually get bela kun, he even has a portrait
(I did it with auto complete and no checks)
Before this video ı was planning a communist run with england and taking crush the dream achievement but after this video nah ı nevet touch it
3:39 That's a spicey agency
I played Communist UK 😂
9:12 HOW DID YOU KNOW
Communists McArthur 💀
Truly the 💀 moment
Mountain General, what happens if you play hoi4 as comunist France? Its better or worse?
You have few choices in your focus tree how to go about things, so it is pretty good
@@mountaingeneral So, soon you will probably post a video about best communist paths of HOI4
Honestly, so many communist trees were just designed and rushed, with barely any effort put into them, even when there could be realistic and detailed paths. The flags used to be just as bad.
Do Kaiserreich Country Roulette with wacky settings on.
5 seconds in and mountain general admits to being a bottom. Truly we are in an enlightened timeline
You wanna try the worst fascist focus trees? Or maybe a matchup of, say, very strong USSR vs Imperial Federation?
Lore of Worst Communist Paths in Hearts of Iron 4 momentum 100
The poor guy died of boredom
You can use your dominions soldiers to impose martial law and things if your going to become communist or fascist
8:13 It has its good side, germans would have a better idea of how to make gulyáshús or pörkölt. You really don't want to see the german attempts on this dish.
cool series and vid
Well i have some questions.
What a best fascist paths of focus trees and what a best communist paths of focus trees?
Nice, another hearts of irone4 Video!