Lowen: The Most Unglamorous Good Unit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Lowen is a very weird unit, unanimously consider good by the community but also seen as pretty middling. I intend to explore my feelings on FE7's third cav.
Special thanks to @JonoabboFE for the sad Lowen clip from our FE7 Buy Our Units series.
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Wait I made a typo at 4:10 , bad vid.
Feesl bad man
dw
makes it funnyer
I thought it was on purpose lmao
I was watching on mute and reading subtitles… didn’t even notice
Lowen is definitely one of the Cavaliers in FE7. He definitely exists and he definitely rides a horse. Everytime I use Lowen, I feel. Overall, he is a unit.
This comment changed my life.
Fucking hilarious mate
This comment should be pinned
Thank you for accurately describing Lowen to a T
Of all cavalier units in Blazing Sword, he's definitely one of them.
I laughed my ass off when Lowen became Old Eliwood
Its nice that he's one of the few FE7 Units who has a defence growth but thats about it.
The lowen video
Besides the music at 6:36 being a tad too distracting (having lyrics didn't help), I loved the editing / presentation style you've used in this video.
Having visual examples for every point, the gameplay sound just barely audible to help punctuate it, wide music variety (using Triangle Strategy was especially fitting for an FE video). The surrounding mess of Lowen sprites and portraits helped sell the uniquely awkward feel of this unit.
And of course, we can't forget the brilliant laughs from 'dramatically' 'unmasking' his 'real' identity! Great work!
Not only do you make a 4:30 video about Lowen, you also hate Kent?
You, sir, have perfect taste!
(Sain would probably be your second Paladin if you went through Lyn Mode first, and probably a better one. I don't use Lowen because he's good though, but because he's based and foodpilled)
I like Lowen, but I had to pause the video and comment here just how great the "Companions" tune is. Every time I hear the melody I get emotional, it's so beautiful
He may be unglamorous, but he gets a pass because he's cute.
I have hated Lowen every single time I have tried to use him, without exception. He has never EVER been as good as the community promises him to be. It frustrates me because I want to like him, too.
Hey its the steel Lance cav
I remember reading Lowen and Eliwood C support on the final chapter. Lowen was like " Oh no. Eliwood you missed breakfast!!" Meanwhile, Eliwood is fighting for his life against the dragon.
That's why I love Lowen
You forgot to mention that in the secret gaiden chapter, Lowen meets his long-lost brother Highen, and he gains +5 in every stat, an unbreakable prf Maltet and he becomes your 2nd best unit in the game (Pent still beats him)
What really? I didnt know
@@MisteruDeBartz yeah, many people miss it tho. It's 19xxx only on HHM. You have to have Lowen at lvl 20 unpromoted, your lords have a total level of more than 50, and you have to sacrifice Serra to the Blood God in chapter 9 of Lyn mode.
@@obiwancannoli1920 You forgot that Nils should be level 20/20 at the end of his join chapter in Lyn mode
Normalize playing Lyn mode before HHM. Problem solved. Florina, Kent, and Sain are now all leveled and borderline ready to promote as soon as they join Hector
I always play Lyn mode first. If I will play the game, I will play the game not skip half of its chapters
Plus you can get the extra Gaiden chapter
Yea but then you have to play FE7 for longer 🤮
@pksprite6401 at least it's not Geneology
Promote Kent IN Lyn mode. He's the captain of the guard for Caelin, he deserves it.
Kent slander will not be tolerated and lowen is peak filler
you should've seen the buy our units series, kent got super level screwed and lowen was as described in this video lol, I'm like 99% sure that's the reason kent is being slandered
Kent is my favorite cavalier. He consistently carried me in my playthrough
@@yellowthere3985where can i watch the series?
“I would love to have the company of a morally pure individual as yourself!”
Why classes are everything: The Lowen Theorem
this is the third time ive seen stunfisk leak into fire emblem oh my god 😭
"Lowen's horse is good -- unfortunately it comes saddled with that useless sack of meat on top"
He’s just decent. Definitely not the star of the show but he’ll contribute.
I like the comparison between oswin and lowen. Sure, part of it is because they compete over the first knight crest, but I also think they are polar opposites in every way except tanking hits. Lowen has high move, rescue drop utility and canto, but is low level with middling bases and iffy growths. Meanwhile oswin is a low move unit who is hard to rescue due to his weight, yet has great bases and a high level that makes him easy to utilize and give the knight crest. Ultimately, they end up sharing near identical positions where everyone around them needs their utility, and so there's little to no reason not to try to use them.
This video really explains why I like lowen so much. He isn't over the top in any way, not breaking the game or anything, but he just has access to the bare minimum of almost every good tool. Canto - check. 7 move - check. Fire affinity? Check. He always has utility, despite his flaws, and I love that, as it encourages me to use a plethora of tools to strategize with him as opposed to just send him forward and win - and should he get blessed with his level ups, I'll have a beast of a paladin for later - if not, I'll still make the most of what he offers until a unit can come to take his place.
What do the different affinities do? I still have no idea😊
@shignificent so when you do supports with different units, the affinities give different bonuses - these include damage dealt, damage taken, avoid, critical avoid, crit chance, and accuracy. Fire affinity just happens to give the best combat bonuses of the affinities, with plus .5 attack, 2.5 accuracy, 2.5 avoid, and 2.5 critical per support level.
Generally, the worst affinity is ice as it only gives defensive buffs. Since both attack and defense buffs only increase by half a point in level, it's best to match supports with someone who shares an affinity or similar bonuses. A dual fire support, like lowen and rebecca, gives both of then a bonus 3 damage at max rank, as compared to a bonus of 1.5 (rounded down to 1) when paired with Marcus.
Lastly, characters who share an affinity with the tactician get a bonus 5 points to hit and avoid. That isn't exclusive to fire, so chose your affinity according to who you feel needs it most.
He is Lowenough!!!
Lol perfect
nah sain is totally good. i just fed all my kills into my sain in lyn hard mode just to get him to level 20 and promote before beginning hector hard mode so that means he'll totally be good
Or I could speedrun Lyn Mode (it takes very little IRL time), get myself a promoted Sain and speedrun the earlygame with Marcus until I get the overlevelled Sain and Florina back :))
Lowen may not be glamorous, but this video sure is 😎
who wouldve thought that under all the lowen was an old man, everything is coming together now
Tbh i always start with lyn's chapters and by the end of it i just liked them more than the ones that come with eliwood. If i use a cavalier, i mostly use sain
I enjoy using Lowen, I like weird mid units, and I feel like Lowen is one of those units who shows up and clocks in, that boy puts in work idk
Support Lowen and Rebecca, I regret nothing. Yes I know this vid is just lowen on how there he is, but rebecca thinks otherwise be her and your lowen never lets you down.
“This is a bit awkward but it makes me very happy.”
The Lowen video... it's here!!!! At long last
For real though, great job :> the Eliwood joke was really funny, and yeah... Lowen is so technically a good unit, but also so actually not exciting to use at all
This was very insightful. So many people say he's high-tier, so I used him on my first playthrough when FE7 came to Switch Online. He was so good at first, so it was easy to feed him exp, so he was my first promotion of the caveliers. But once I got Sain back he quickly overshadowed Lowen very quickly. I then decided to make him an axe-user, as I only had a trained Dorcas at that point, but he had such horrible hit rate it only made him worse lmao
Lowen is a good unit I don't like using. I think that's my best way I can describe him.
The lowen/eliwood edit got me, great video!
I unironically like lowen. Always benched him in in my first few playthroughs but he was a beast in my last one. Maube i just got good growths but hes my favorite cav now
Woah, RD Zihark slander will not be tolerated 😡 response video incoming
nooo not drama 😢😢😢
I normally promote lowen at a higher level and he carries till the end game. Not at level 10.
This!
What do you mean this? Level 20 is a pitfall.
@@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755 early days when I started fire emblem I did, noe I go mis between 10 and 20, promoting around lvl15 or so.
Uhm you described him really well and the title is spot on. I love Sain and Kent as characters, but after playing HHM so many times without Lyn mode, I believe Lowen is very important if you want to clear the early game reliably and within reasonable time to keep your sanity. Also, Isadora with a body ring and an angelic robe is your best bet for a 2nd paladin by the time she joins. Lowen will get doubled by Lloyd's crew, Kent will never do meaningful damage and Sain, while being the best, might not hit doubling benchmarks. I also liked the comparison with Oswin. Very good video! Kepp going!
I really enjoy using Lowen on my fe7 playthroughs. I think the thing that really makes him feel so meh is his poor strength since it is rare for him to kill anything. However, his defence and speed are often good enough to engage in a lot of combat without straight up one rounding everything like Marcus might making it harder for him to suffer from success and easier for him to set up kills for other project characters. Also, because he doesn't kill and still doubles, it is not too hard to train his axe rank.
He feels mid because he generally falls off late-game. But he's considered good because he's one of the best early game units (as pointed out here) and remains solid through the mid-game. If you get lucky, he won't fall off, but if he doesn't, there's plenty of other late game units to field. Falling off doesn't make him mid or bad, but it definitely makes him feel that way
I really don't think the devs expected people to pretty much always skip Lyn mode, because, if you don't, both Kent and Sain look *so* much better compared to if you skip it.
Also you can totally cheese with the arena and knights crest and enter hector hard mode with them as a 20:1 paladin which totally trivializes a lot of the game, even if you play standard from the moment you start Hector's story, which is hilarious.😂
cav moment
love using lowen tho. idk why I just. cavs. love em
Scraggly haired boy cooks, cleans, he's loyal, and protects. He deserves love and happiness, good unit.
It's really funny to me that Lowen is 'slow', as in my experience with Lowen he was REALLY good - my first FE7 playthrough saw him capping speed and defense during the endgame, with plenty of respectable strength to one-round enemies hard enough I had to intentionally keep him out of some combats. This was probably helped by the fact I lost Marcus early on so he took over as my main Paladin, but I ended up having the exact opposite excitement curve and was always hype to use him as my reliable boss-killer, and specifically gave him my dragon kill in honor of his service.
Nothing can dampen my appreciation of the yellow-armored Paladin with zero characterization. His rise to fill Marcus's spot and become indisputably my strongest unit was a glorious story.
I hate grinding and Lowen takes too long to reach ORKO for my tastes, but if you're willing to grind supports/levels Lowen is probably the best of the Knight Crest users. His supports give him sky-high offense, he's definitely the beefiest in terms of non-RES defense, and even though his SPD is somewhat sus he'll still easily double FE7's slow-ass enemies by the midgame.
I would appreciate Lowen more in another context.
Not FE6 because we already have good units in the early game.
Also, I think that other training projects feels better because they don't have much comparison early on. I could argue that Erk is another Lowen, but I don't feel underwhelming using him because he is my only mage until raven's chapter.
Ah, a fellow Oswin enjoyer.
He feels insignificant but i've lost so many units on my very first playthroug right now that He steals the show actually, ( I lost Kent and Saint ) As he became Paladin, I enjoy him a lot but he never speaks and that is sad
As a kent fan I’m offended
Interesting video. I've never really used Lowen much, but I'll have to consider him in a future playthrough. Never done EHM or HHM before, but I plan to this year.
Gonna have to disagree about Kent. Play Lyn Mode and that solves Kent, Sain, and Florina's starting issues. Also Kent and Sain work best together since they support anyway.
Oswin is win. I always use him! I'll see myself out...
Lowen and Rebecca are my ultimate power couple. Once they get A support and promotion he’s a tank and her crit and avo and speed go thru the roof. I love to drop them in the middle of a busy map and let them clean house.
Ok well here is my counter argument.... and hear me out here
I think this will clear up most of the Lowen hate out there
Lowen looks like a dork and not in a fun way and has an ugly color pallet.
This is the reason people insist Nino and Amilia are good. Its all bout the looks and Lowen looks dorky but not in a funny meme way
I never understood why Kent gets all the hate everywhere. From all my HHM runs, the ones with Kent are always the most successful. that extra speed is just too valuable. (ofc only if you do lyn mode)
Ok but legit, Lowen carried my run because everyone else had ABYSMAL resistance (meanwhile he had stupidly good res) and mages started getting ridiculous. If he had higher speed and more attack, he would've actually been a really good unit. Otherwise he just tanked some shots and did a bit of damage before someone else finished the job
Lowen is pretty much a case study for value of availability. Like if he and Sain started at the same time, I cannot imagine many people would ever choose Lowen to feed experience into as Sain rarely ever feels mid. But he doesn't he has several chapters to get well-ahead of Sain and thus is generally considered the better option (assuming no Lyn mode).
you know, my first ever impression of Lowen was... kind of bad, Sain and Kent got the experience form Lyn mode in my first playthrough, meaning they joined with way better stats than him once i got them back, then i did my "low tier" run and decided to give him a chance, and well, my experience was... underwhelming at best, i remember promoting him at 12 and he had something like 10 str and spd, he could never double nor kill and was pretty much a waste of a slot more times than not. Then i finally starting ironmanning FE7 on hard mode and my opinion definetly changed. When you don't have save states to cover your ass in case of a missplay your perception of a unit's usefulness drastically changes and suddenly Lowen's bulk and good enough bases where very needed, sword access means he can reliably fight all the early brigands and fighters, lances means he can access javelins for 1-2 range and then on promo he even gets axes for full WT control, he also got pretty stat blessed on my first attempt so that's something. so my opinion on Lowen definetly changed from when i first played FE7, do i like to use him? No, absolutely not, i'd much rather train Rebecca really, but given the options you get early game you kinda HAVE to use him otherwise you're better of Marcus soloing.
Very similar, but having played so many IMs he's staple and I love him. No Lyn mode of course.
I completed fire emblem 7 lots of times and never used lowen. In fact I forget he exists because he is always the first unit to hit the bench on my playthroughts
in my opinion comparing him to osWin should be heresy. OsWin is always easily one of the best units in the game. Also I can't care any less for higher movement and kanto so any advantage lowen could have, falls of In my views. Also he is not cool and he is bland characterwise.
I'm Lowen
And I'm enough
And I'm good at doing stuff!
Kent just has bad unit feel that's why
You are Lowenough ❤
wow it's almost like early promoting a guy with 30% str and speed growths makes him not that great??? give him more levels!!!
you'll survive without the +1 mov, axes and shitty promo gains. early promoting lowen is one of the worst takes I've seen
I finished FE7 almost 3 moths ago for the first time and used Lowen A LOT, honestly i didn't even realized that his stat were that bad, but your video made me realize why i liked him so much, thank you! Also i really like the editing and how you tell your story, new subscriber gained here
I see your video, but I raise you that he’s a scruffy green haired soft boi with a Rebecca support
So, out of curiosity, I looked back at my old save and found a 20/20 Lowen with 15 Strength and 18 Skill (He was blessed with 22 Speed, and has a pretty fine bulk though). This makes him straightly worse offensively than this playthrough's Legault with a Sword (17 Strength and 22 Skill).
I'm so tired of Lowen, even when he gets above average stats they're still underwhelming. Now I just use oswin instead. Even so, all this really did was change my experience feeding priority from Lowen > Eliwood > Literally everyone else
to
Eliwood > Lowen > Literally everyone else
There's no one to train early on gaaah
Melady being F-tier in a game she's unplayable in is top kek.
Honestly Lowen might never be in my "top 10 units i want to use for a run" but He rarely finds himself on the bench for me. The dude just has a nice package of high mobility and high durability, sure he isn't an offensive power house even by FE7 standards but as a certain man once said "It doesn't matter if he's not killing dozens of enemies in a turn, what matters is that he can survive being on the frontlines so he can actually obtain experience safely to become a great unit without much risk" So it ends up with Lowen being a growth unit on paper, but he's pretty consistent in regards to being able to preform his typical role of "move far, take hits, don't die" and I wish more people recognized this type of unit more often.
Another thing that helps Lowen out is that FE7 is a game where you get better units as you progress into the game, so Lowen being one of your early game units that's going to be consistently good and with you until at least the late mid game can't be understated, for those first 4-5 chapters of the game Lowen will be your best unit not named Marcus and the third best unit isn't even close to him by a mile.
Now I have realised what my lowen has went through and how lucky i am
while lowen is unexciting, at least he is no kent.
now excuse me as i go balling out of control with sain.
Bro this ain’t fair, quit making me cry with Freesia ):
In regards to Oswin vs Lowen, I prefer Oswin.
Good Guilty Gear music
Even without Lyn mode I'd still always use Sain over Lowen. Dudes combat is mid of the highest caliber and his personality is even worse. Sain is the man
I never understood why people slept on Lyn mode honestly. Normal mode maybe but you're genuinely missing out on heaps upon heaps of experience by skipping LHM, especially because the playthrough takes like an hour or two. I always end up with a Level 12 Sain with 15-ish strength promoted into a Paladin with nearly 20 strength and with Kent and Florina not being far off. Even if both Cavs are stat-screwed, they still have an insane early promotion.
I play the fe7 where you play lyn mode so sain shows up at like lvl 8 or so
I actually like Oswin more than all 3 cavs. Bosswin just needs a slight bit of growth luck and he bcomes an absolut monster. Ready to defend Merlinus and stop any reinforcments that come from the back. Lown always seems to lack a bit of offense while Sain lacks a bit of defense. And Kent ...... yeah actually i am on board with not liking him. He just doesnt have anything
In FE7, a Cav with mid stats in every area is better than most other units. Just how FE7 unit feel goes.
I like Lowen! He is not just an early game cav .. he is the GOLD early game cav! I like to use Lowen and Isadora because they have my aesthetic. Dat hair tho. ♥
Recently got back into FE7 on the Switch GBA online thing, and I am having a lot of fun with it, just using ALL the cavs. All of them. *All of them.*
I view Lowen as a kind of 'patchwork' unit; not the best, or in some cases, not very good at their jobs, but they have a highly valuable toolset, so I'll deploy them regardless.
Love me some lowen content, keep up with these scripted videos, this one was really good
(Im also interesting to see if this will have an impact on your polls)
YaY lowen gaemplay
He is Lowenough
Sain and Low should had support.
Kent truly is the most meh cavalier of FE7. He has speed so he'll double where Lowen fails, but he won't have high damage regardless. And then he has less bulk and an awful luck stat meaning he can, and WILL get killed by a random crit.
Sain is the GOAT that makes everyone else look like a wet noodle because 60% strength growth funny man.
I don't think Lowen is particularly weak to magic though. He has an above average resistance growth and top tier hp growth, plus 37 available levelups to utilize his growths.
Very simple: Good unit, bad “unit feel.”
He’s boring, but always worth training in HHM. I pretty much always get him 2 levels on his join map (Because why would I give up that exp to the axe bros, Rebecca or Elitrash?) and pray for strength and speed
What is a jobber? I do not know what this word means. (Unironically. Am confused.)
I should've been more clear about this in the vid. A "jobber" aka "flunky" is generally a unit that does side objectives or other random things, this contrasts with your carry unit who is usually going for the main objective (ie: important combat).
That might not be the best definition, I'll try to be more concise for the next vid.
@@eaturgrns Thank you for explaining!
I liked this type of video! Would definitely watch more whether its other units in FE7 or other games.
I don’t understand why people think Lowen is bad. He makes good immediate use of both the draco shield and the energy ring in his join chapter where no one doubles except for Marcus. Eliwood doesn’t take hits very well, Rebecca’s chip isn’t very substantial and the axe units… Dorcas can hit hard but not double and Bartre is a worse Dorcas who’s “supposed to get speed growths at 40%”
In terms of doubling, eliwood just needs a point or two to start double and that goes for Lowen as well.
Lowen however, can take hits like a fighter, do chip better than an archer, and just needs a few speed levels to consistently double most targets.
Lowen allowed Marcus to be in 2 places at once.
Oswin supremacy!!! I always use Oswin. Now I’m tempted to try Sain my next time though. Great video! Hope you make more vids like this. What do you think of Zeiss?
I always liked Lowen because he has my favorite stat. Defense. I am... mediocre at best at FE. I like my armor knights, and tanky units. Lowen fills that niche.
Kent is by far the worst of the cavs, he's got hit rate, and that's it. Sain is alright, and my go-to IF I am playing through Lyn's mode, he hits like truck, if he hits. Lowen just usually hits, but not hard. but the fact he can survive multiple hits really helps given his move, which leaves him in more vulnerable positions (when I'm playing).
also, I NEVER use that first knights crest on anyone but Oswin. Oswin is the GOAT, and I only beat the game the first time (I was like 8, I have improved since then) because of Oswin. To be fair, he was stat blessed. Dude had capped hp, strength, spd, def, and was like 2 points away from capping res.
I like to call him Low End
10:25 what do you mean sain is a great unit for me ,always reliable, rng blessed for me, my lvl 13 sain had 17 str, 15 spd,10 def as a cavalier,maybe your sain hasn't had the best luck so far
I'm glad Rath being able to ferry Hector and Oswin was brought up as a reason why Lowen is just serviceable/average at most things. He functions well enough and can play a utility/tank hybrid role if Lyn mode wasn't played before. If Lyn mode was played Kent/Sain just do more, Kent and Sain are more likely to double and 1 round enemies, can also rescue drop. They might be less durable but a few points of defense total over the course of the game only makes a difference if they fall short just a few hp and die. It's easy enough to play around when Oswin can hold a choke by himself most times.
I usually play Lyn mode so I can get all hidden chapters and by wasting so much time the last couple maps in the mode get Kent/Sain up around LV8-10, and in shape to contribute immediately.
The unholy trinity of cavaliers in FE 7 goes like this. Sain is best at attack, and that's it, maybe luck. Kent, he's supposed to have the most speed and skill, so he should be landing hits the most! Lowen. . .Lowen has the best HP pool and highest defense, plus the best luck, as well as the highest resistance to magic. So Lowen has the best chance of successfully using the Devil Axe.
So yeah, Lowen is meant to be a defender, Sain a killer to deal the finishing blow. And Kent. . .let him do some utility stuff.
Who tf plays FE like this? Like Hector Hard Mode is pretty easy and the unit quality is pretty balanced. Like you dont need to min max to beat it.
Lowen is good not because he's out there killing dudes and taking objectives. Lowen is good because he makes everyone around him better. He rides out and engages enemies, usually without killing them. This leaves those foes in a position to be finished off by more specialized or valuable units, allowing them to soak up Exp. In this way he actually exerts finer battlefield control than someone who is objectively more powerful.
I don’t think I’ve ever actually used Lowen simply because I prefer slower, tougher units like Oswin since I’m not really worried about a low turn count. If I bring a Paladin its usually Kent after training him up in Lyn mode because my Sain never seems to gain speed or resistance which makes him fall off really hard in the last few chapters
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Great video. Definitely agree that Lowen is a very “FE7” character. An unflashy and dull character/unit for an unflashy and dull video game.
HE IS KENOUGH
I always Knew Lowen was on the Underrated Camp but I sadly can never stop seeing this Lowen art where he is shirtless with an Apron on Cooking (If you know, you know)
I don't know
Red cav best cav. My man Kent never fails! Also Marcus bad he died for me in his joining chapter.
Lowen with his morbillion defense is peak Fire Emblem
this was honestly such a well made video, keep up the good work man