The Willemin Has Power!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- We have the Willemin powered up and ready for its next stage at Grimsmo Knives!
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I have never seen someone so excited about a tool change but I definitely get it 🤣. Can't wait to see it running!
Congrats! Can't wait to see some more videos of it up and running and like what you recently did with the swiss lathe too!
Super rad machine! I really like this kind of video. Straight and to the point 💪🏼
5:06 Deadpool mode, 🤣 I like that!
Hi John, I got my used Robodrill up and running this week and it has the same controller, the learning curve is steep for sure, I already exploded some face mill inserts. Good luck!
Great that Willy is free to run! Deadpool mode is keenly anticipated. 👍 😃
Who the hell would give this a thumbs down? I waited like forever for this video! I really can't wait to see it in action! So what do these machines cost new? And how much did they want for it being like 17yrs old? Does fusion even have a post for a machine like that? Oh and takes for not breaking All the stuff up in a million videos! Great entertainment! 👍
I would give a thumbs down.
They probably killed the bearings in those fans with the ultrasonic + isopropyl soak. Because ONLY adding the oil to the ones that felt odd or slow, sure as hell has sentenced the rest that didn't get the treatment.
Correct minimal procedure would have been to at least remove the fans blades from the shroud, clean everything separately, and assemble back. Nevermind the fact that electronic PCB's don't do well in high power applications after a really thorough soak in water, as FR4 is hydrophilic. The only thing that will save them is the fact that they are sensored, and the controller will detect that the fan is not spinning, even before the thermal protections kick in.
@@nixie2462 Yeah ultrasonic is a little overboard I usually just use some cleaner and a rag to wipe the grease off The fans are only like $24 in MSC
Changing to inch
* Go to setting screen
*Change from metic to inch
*enable parameter write enable
*put machine in MDI
*hit system hard key
*hit the parameter softkey(may have to right arrow softkey to find)
*change parameter 1401.0(RFO) =1
*disable parameter write in setting screen
*zero reference all axis.
10:59 were i you, i'd change all the fans in all the hardware portion. Even if those are quality fans, they're old by this point and they're not operating at full tilt anymore. Same same replacement. It's cheaper than whatever might break without efficient cooling. As is, you'd still have to take each fan apart and clean it, as an alternative, so you're better off taking account of each one and swapping it out for a fresh one.
Probably not a bad idea, but at the same time there are temperature monitors all over these machines in the controls. If it gets too hot, it will shut off and throw an error. Unless you do something really dumb, it's actually pretty hard to kill modern CNC stuff even from lack of maintenance.
@@gorak9000 how is 2k04 considered modern?
@@TommiHonkonen even in the 90s (or earlier) CNC manufactures integrated a shit load of sensors for protection for critical parts. I think it was selling point but now it's standard for everything.
@@christianedelmann6880 i know i drive 90's crap
@@TommiHonkonen If you buy a 2k04 machine vs a 2021 machine, I don't think much has changed with any of the hardware - only thing that's really different is the software and the UI, and the main processor that runs the UI is newer. Is a 2004 Fanuc servo drive much different than a 2021 Fanuc servo drive? Now if you compare a 2004 servo drive to a 1990 servo drive, or a 1985 servo drive, there'd be major differences in each.
Could take this opportunity to Metricate the whole shop
3:25 Good, time to go metric for everything, like the rest of the world ;)
I happy for you buddy! I'm really glad you like hiedenhain so much. I know I love it, I figured you would take to it like I did. It's amazing compared to other controls.
Deadpool mode is very important. Fanuc controls have a legacy of 40 years of "the same but different" control, with minimal incremental updates whenever they decide. In some cases it's nice and familiar, in others it's just archaic.
Re: That "big thing" - it's probably a reactor(read: big ol' coil o' copper smooths power), part of the filter to prevent the noisy high frequency servo stuff from going back into the grid or other machines.
Time for a ball...cthulhu test to figure out how worn it is?
I've been listening to the BOM and waiting for this video to drop :D
Thats the fastest tool change I've ever seen!
That is one COOL! machine John.
Great machine. Can be a headache at times with alarms but kicks ass. Used with Gibbscam. Would take the opportunity to switch all machines to metric 😉. Cheers!
As an FYI for the fanuc fans they have 3 wires like a normal computer fan but unlike a computer fan which uses the 3rd wire for a tacho signal the fanuc has a load sensor on it.
As per anything fanuc it's is huge in price but if you put the sense wire to ground it will fire up and run happy as Larry. Just make sure the fans spinning
Whatever the fans are, you can order them straight from someone other than Fanuc and pay a more reasonable price. Those are just NMB fans - read the model number off of them, look up the specs on NMBs site, and order the same part # replacements (or equivalents from another good fan brand) Fans either use the 3rd wire for tacho pulses, or sometimes a PWM input to control the speed of the fan. I've never heard of a "load sensor" in a fan. I would suspect they are regular tach pulses, and the control just makes sure the fan is spinning and spinning fast enough. I don't actually see the model number visible anywhere in the video, otherwise I'd look it up and see what the 3rd wire actually does.
@@gorak9000 well I can tell you from experience that it's not the case and they indeed work as I've explained. No guessing here
Haven’t even watched the video and all I can think is, Finally!!!!!!!!!
If you run oil, those bloom laser tool checkers can get oil behind there air shutters and error out the checker.
The FANUC control will bring up an alarm if the phase direction is wrong or if a phase is lost.
Oh, and parameter write enable should be off unless you are servicing the machine and you need to be able to write parameters. I'm not too familiar with the 16i series controls but if there is a Ready Made Macro cartridge on the control it may not work right in inch mode if the macros expect metric units.
Fun video, thanks
Which axes rotate around which axes really made more sense to me when I realized that they *ALL* follow the same convention if you just look up the diagram. IE: A always revolves around X, C always revolves around Z and B always revolves around Y.
C is always your *main* spindle.
except I made this comment before finishing the video and now you're jogging the A axis with the C button... neat... ANYWAYS. Just gonna pretend I never saw that.
Raspberry Pi next to Kern?! What a collision of worlds 🤯 Have I missed something from previous videos? What's Pi for?
I would guess monitoring or to send an alert if error or run out of material etc. Just a guess though, but that's how I would use it
Where did you noticed Pi?
@@Stasiek_Zabojca Just about the 6:00 mark in the video, you can see it lying next to Kern’s control panel.
Very nice stats on this machine. What do they go for new? Congrats.
very good machine
Why was I so stressed watching you power it on for the first time 😅
The logo buttons that you were unsure about are the same as the buttons on the swiss (the swiss has logos and labels).
Knowing your love of 3D printing, could you print some key caps to replace the hieroglyphics with things that were more easily recognised?
Alternatively, you could go the full Grimsmo, reverse engineer the key caps, and make new titanium key caps on the Kern ... 😀
Man, the tool change is crazy fast.
Soon May the Willemin come to bring us chips and coolant and rum
One day when the cutting is done we’ll change our tools and go
finally a machine in metric!
We have Deadpool Mode on our machines. You're going to love it!
You are like a kid on Christmas morning.
What are you using the eumachs for? Cutting foam for packaging or are you not using them?
Yessssss
Hi, John... G20 / G21 inch/metric mode not work like usual on fanuc controls?
Deadpool mode got a literal lol. Wish my hurco had it just so i could say that even though i have 0 clue what that does.
Congrats buddy. Maybe you’ll figure it out sooner than you think🤔 💭💭💭💭
Ok now do some milling with it for a week and make a "CNC Toolchanger compilation" video 😁
Deadpool Mode!!! lol. Wonder what that actually is...
Metric FTW 🤣
Do research on the G800 codes. G800,G801,G802,G806. They are incredibly powerful and should be used every time on a willemin. I can send info on them if you can't find it yourself
Badass
Do you put filters on the air that comes into the machine? I saw Fireball tool do that on his new machine. Thanks for the view under her skirt, it's really cool to see the guts of these things 🤘
Pretty much every cnc machine has a filter drier / pressure reg / lubricator device on it (called a FRL for short) on the incoming air. The drier is just a really fine filter media that filters out water and oil vapour, and any other crap that might be coming in on the air. This isn't old heavy iron from the "before times" like the stuff Fireball plays with - that stuff is all standard on any CNC machine, and as far as CNCs go, this machine is pretty new, so I guarantee it has all that standard.
@@gorak9000 Ah, ok! Thanks!
What hsk 40 is it? There is like 100 different letters to differentiate them? I hate how things get to the point where everything is just a hieroglyph and then you have to thing what the meaning is.
haha, I replace white lights with yellow ones on my machines.
Do those kind of high end machines work in closed loop or open loop ? i.e does the machine always know where the tools are in absolute terms, and is able to correct it in case of belt skipping and whatnot ?
Every good cnc machine is closed loop servo motors - but the loop is closed with an encoder on the servo motor itself, so you can still have backlash in the ball screw or other "motion issues" that that encoder won't catch. Only hobby grade machines run in open loop
Deadpool mode XD hahaha
That's a lot of machine in a small package
Hanzhen harmonic drive gear , robot gear reducer, over 30 years experience
Lol...deadpool mode!
next vid !
Deadpool!
Did those two Taiwanese machines come from a university?
No more videos?
Great machine but absolutely hate Fanuc. Siemens all the way you could of been cutting metal by now lol. About time you and the rest of America got on board with the metric system anyway!. 😆😆😂😂
"Having to find a Fanuc fan"
Is that even an issue? When I needed to replace the two cooling fans above my 21i-T monitor and control unit I made the stupid mistake of trying to source 'cheaper' options, I even went for NMB fans and they didn't work, the control threw up a fan speed error.
After too long faffing I just contacted a Fanuc parts supplier and I had the proper fans next day, plugged them in and years later still no issues with them.
No the actual fans were not cheap, however trying to be cheap cost me more money. You've just bought a spendy machine, just buy the proper part unless you can find an exact match (same manufacturer and part code).
Edit : You do need to take the red fan cover off your spindle motor to clean though, looks pretty dirty and they're supposed to be removed and cleaned annually, those things get amazingly filthy inside.
Am I the only one that, every time Willemin is mentioned, now has to think of the sea shanty? "Soon may the Willemin come, to bring us sugar and tea and rum..."
Soon you know metric....
And you will know how to measure 👍😂
Unless there's some kind of hardware that's stuck in our metric, it should be trivial to just copy an existing, equivalent 128's inches based software over this one's. Weird. I've seen more complicated machines get this treatment (different brand, older, without any company support, it was the only existing option to swap them to metric).
It's just a setting somewhere. At least it is in a mitsubishi machine - can't see it being any different on another control like Fanuc. You just go in and change one system parameter and now the display is inches, change it back and it's in metric. Maybe they're confusing the display units with the machine units - you can switch the units the hardware in the machine uses too (encoders in counts / mm or counts/inch) - that's a completely different setting than the display though.
what the fuck theres literally a deadpool button??? xD
I don’t think that Mori is a Fanuc control
Its their skin on top of fanuc, just like CELOS is now
@@spikeypineapple552 I didn’t think there was a fanuc option in that vintage, after a quick google search, I stand corrected
It’s their MSC-505 control I think. It’s Fanuc based. The MAPPS controle was Mitsubishi controls. Celos is a either Mitsubishi or Siemens from what I’ve seen.
@@spikeypineapple552 Very similar to the Makino Professional 5 control which is a FANUC 310i PC-based control running Windows CE with a custom frontend.
Metric > SAE! Congrats!
I'm sitting here at 2:30 in the morning after my shift running that same machine. I'm a tornos swiss guy by training, Willemin is just irritating in alot of ways. Neat but irritating.
But... Does it work? 😂
Not japanece cabinet, but good machine in general.
I’d switch everything to metric but i’m in non USA land so that’s the only logical choice anyways.
G21 master race (G710 for Siemens)
Fanuc is pretty horrible for stuff being the same yet different
Machine tool builders are more responsible when it comes to button layouts being very different on different machines.
@@loukola5353 well obviously 😝 as far as machine buttons ... but seems like screens and fanuc buttons changed with every model .. Its just something everyone hates lol
My good Jesus son! Run your audio through a low pass filter or something. Make my dog flip his shit with that high pitch dog whistle sound
Stabilized video, it's a thing. Want more subs?
Hey John, why are you sticking to a totally senseless, useless and redundant measurement system?
machine looks old - will be a remorse buy,, good for scrap metal
A 17 year old machine is not old. It's pretty modern actually.
@@loukola5353 I don't consider a CNC machine to be old unless it's more than 20 years old. Plus I believe that machine is close to US$500k new.
Fanuc is the biggest pile of crap controller available. The only reason they are so popular, is they are the cheapest. Cheap rubbish.