CLARIFICATIONS: 1. Wozniak didn't INVENT the Blue Box. He got the idea from from the 1971 Esquire article “Secrets of the Little Blue Box” by Ron Rosenbaum but him and Jobs did gain notoriety for using and building them - his designs worked better than most. 2. My pronunciation of "MOS" was off. It is more authentically pronounced as M-O-S or, sometimes, as "moss". Apologies!
About MOS -- that Allen-Bradley company... "During the mid-1900s, mid-sized firms such as Allen-Bradley tended to embrace reactionary politics out of a fear that increased government regulation would cut into their profits. Unlike large, multinational corporations that dealt directly with customers, historian Rick Perlstein argues that these smaller companies were less concerned about potential public blowback. Allen-Bradley paid for propaganda posters that asked “Will You Be Free to Celebrate Christmas in the Future?” and circulated allegations that the Soviet Union was using mind-control techniques to keep communist nations in line. One of the company's founders, Harry Lynde Bradley, was a founding member of the John Birch Society and co-founded the Bradley Foundation, a right-wing think tank. In 1968, the NAACP and the Latino community joined in a march to protest Allen-Bradley's discriminatory hiring practices, an event that marked the beginning of Latino activism in Milwaukee."
Thanks. Soft S. I though you were using a speech bot. The 6502 was an amazing processor. My first one was a KIM-1 with a massive 1K of RAM. But that was still a powerful unit, The Standford computer music lab had one directing traffic for a dozen users.
Steve Wozniak stands out as my favourite of the two Steves because he's never let wealth drive his creations. While money is undeniably necessary to cover life's basics, Woz’s primary goal has always been to share his innovations and bring joy to others. It’s rare to find visionaries like him in today’s Silicon Valley-we need more people driven by passion and creativity rather than profit. That’s also why he was upset when Jobs sold his code to Atari and only gave him a small cut while telling him it was half the money -not because of the money, but because Jobs lied. Woz just wanted to help his friend. We need more of that spirit!
Jobs was an opportunistic capitalist (greedy scumbag). He was also a weirdo who ate nothing but fruit and developed pancreatic cancer and died as a result. Good riddance.
I remember the late-1970s, because I was involved in the early years of microcomputing. The back pages of Byte magazine were full of Apple clones based on the 6502. For some reason, people don't seem to be aware of it. With regards to open source, I would say that Woz was part of the movement. The S-100 bus was commonly used by many manufacturers (Altair, Imsai, and so many more) on early microcomputers (predating the Apple I). The culture of the time was very focused on sharing so everyone could progress. But hey...it was the 70s! :)
That’s awesome, you were right in the middle of it all! The open-source vibe was definitely alive back then, with Woz and others pushing for collaboration. Those early days of sharing tech were what really drove innovation-gotta love the 70s!
Yeh, we got a Franklin Ace (Apple II compatible (clone)) for a signif discount off the price of an Apple II at the time. It featured a dual-sided floppy disk drive, so funny to remember the "state of the art" back then.
@@AnsonAlexander These big corporations pushing for proprietary solutions only have so much time before there's catastrophic backlash, and much like the Apple /// and the Lisa, it will end in failure eventually. I think Microsoft is cooking themselves as we speak with Windows 11 and all of the vagaries surrounding it. Eventually they'll get what's coming to them. No empire lasts forever. Eventually enough people will have had enough. And then the open source movement will flourish. Or at least, that's my dream. Anyway, I think computing technology "wants" to be free. IBM tried to make the PC architecture proprietary (after they had already released it as open) by redefining it with the PS/2. You see how well that worked out. The only parts that made it into the rest of the hardware ecosystem were the mouse and keyboard ports (the only things that were improved over what existed). Years ago, they sold their PC division to lenovo, and now IBM isn't even a player in the PC market anymore.
I red a article about exact same thing you said just 1hour ago and here I found comment TH-cam. What a shocking and surprising coincident almost like synchronicity.
I remember those early days, more, or less..... 🤣 Open source is important, and Woz was right, you can move technology forward through the sharing of ideas. I'm grateful for those folks who work for something other than pure profit.
Haha, I hear you! Open source really did push things forward, and Woz was all about that collaborative mindset. Gotta appreciate those who value progress over just profit!
@@AnsonAlexander I keep looking for open source ways to replace some of my current subscription based tools, and other "obsolete ," programs, like Aperture. I sorely miss it! I paid good money for it, but Apple never moved it forward. It was a lifesaver for me editing the the hundreds and hundreds of images I'd shoot on a job. It's a pity there was not a workaround to save it.
I heard that in the early days of computing, software was all opensource - that it wasn't until a court forced IBM to release with a closed license that the idea of closed source started to catch on.
I used to sell Apple IIs to businessmen with a ten-minute Visicalc demo. The spreadsheet is STILL my favorite PC app even though I no longer need it. Immense power in a user-programmable form. I use mine now to control synthesizers, write music, edit and mix. But I still consider the spreadsheet the "magic app," Woz was SUCH as sweetheart, thanks for the retrospect.
So, IBM PC, even copied their open design from Woz. Which led to the success of PCs, which were just hasty copies of the idea of home computer: the key was to allow clones, and having expansion boards. I see that too was entirely Woz’s idea. BTW, he wrote a BASIC too, so he did the job of Microsoft too.
Sorry, but the Apple II was designed by 3-4 people. Rod Holt did the power supply. I can't remember his name but there was another guy that was crucial in helping Woz design the memory architecture (the slots, etc). Someone else did the case design (alongside with Jobs), etc. And that's just hardware.
The Apple I was basically a turn-key 8-bit computer with terminal circuitry and video output. It was super simple. Anything more complicated than that took a team to design. You're quite probably correct.
@@mitchellsmith4601 well, kinda. Woz took inspiration (copy??) from Lancaster's book TV Typewriter which is an awesome read. I mean, Lancaster probably got some of his ideas from other people, etc. That's the beauty of sharing ideas. 😀
I was a big fan of the Apple ][ I wouldn't touch a contemporary Apple product with a 10' pole… I remember seeing some interesting stuff plugged into the many expansion slots, but disc drives and huge memory cards were the most impressive, especially one friend's huge 128Kb memory card (ironic these days, of course). But certainly, the openness of the Apple ][ propelled its success and longevity.
TOTALLY AGREE! I gave up on Apple when they came up with something totally proprietary, the 128K Mac. How was I supposed to program THAT? Buying a LISA so I could program the Mac? NO THANK YOU. I switched to the PC family of products and never looked back.
Its open design certainly helps the enthusiasts keep it alive. My Apple //e has a CF card as an SSD with several partitions, as well as VGA output thanks to a card with a Raspberry Pico on it. Of course there’s people still writing and updating software for it as well. I have used Mac, Windows, and Linux, but nothing brings me more joy than my Apple //e.
And let's be clear, "bypass the phone network and make free calls" is not quite accurate. A blue box was a device for stealing long distance service from the phone company.
Steve Jobs died... Steve Wozniak is still alive Does this mean that open source will outlive corporatism and capitalism? Yep... All hail the lovely penguins in their many flavours they come In...
I think a lot of them actually got shipped in 77 so you’re probably not wrong. That’s awesome though. You probably didn’t realize it would lead to where Apple is today?
Windows and Macs are close sourced and today a lot of people are using them, they are made to be user friendly by hiding away most of the systems. Same thing with Android and IOS and even Steam Deck. It is just turn on, plug and play, opening files and close the files,, occasionally clone and transfer the files, turn it off. Linux and other Unix like OS are open source and not a lot of people use it. Lesson: Most humans are simple, true to the word simple, they prefer things to be made simple. Few can go beyond simple. Steve Jobs simplified the product, told people that it can do magic, and the money started flowing in. Simplicity - limitations sells, for most people that is.
Sony isn't a very good comparison. They invented some advancements in early solid state during early radio and TV, and the Trinitron was a big deal but it was adopted by industry. The Apple large CRTs during G4, G5 days were Mitsubishi "Diamondtrons".
Yeah he was certainly the main pioneer. I guess I just wanted to highlight Woz's role as well, especially on the hardware side with his sharing of schematics.
It is, mostly with Linux but you can do it with any OS really but it takes a good amount of technical know-how still. I believe Woz wanted it to happen sooner...
Lots of mixed feelings here. I've never warmed up to Apple. Never bought any Apple products. Even back in the early 80's, Apple seemed like an elitist "Sell the sizzle, not the steak" sort of company, producing high quality, but grossly overpriced products. And frankly the more I hear about Jobs, the less I like him. Steve Wozniak on the other hand, is an amazing individual, who I have the utmost respect for. He changed the World for the better and continues to do so. The computer he designed and built was awesome. It's Apple I don't like. My first computer was the TRS-80 from Radio Shack (which built its business on DIY), before I moved on the the Amiga, where I think Jay Miner had an attitude much more in line with Steve Wozniak's. I FAR prefer companies and organizations who put customers and hobbyists first and encourage innovation, as compared with those whose business model is to dazzle their hapless lemmings with slick promos, and then suck every last penny they can from them.
Remember when apple started charging to the Mac Os releases? Then they want back to free. As a child growing up in the 80's. I had a early interest in computer and asked everybody I could about them. Great stories was told. Some of it was True. Some of it was not. I'm still finding facts and myths today about the 1970's and early 80's. One thing that came to mind was reading an article about how apple Couldn't get the clones for building Apple II boards since the hardware was all open source and the diagram was in the back of the book Thus, whey they focused so much on the rom. Then when the Mac came around. You will find some good articles about protection in that.
Imagine how advanced we would be as a species if our recent technological advances were made for the betterment of mankind and not just for revenue....
Technological access and user simplicity are both positive goals, but can end up being in tension. I think today there are only two laptop makers who are really doing anything interesting: Apple with a perfected take on the locked-down approach, and Framework with an open platform and upgrade paths. Each one can pursue its own advantages to their full extent, while everyone else is just awkwardly in the middle.
You make a great point! Apple’s locked-down approach is super polished, while Framework's open design gives users a lot of flexibility. It’s cool to see both extremes being done well, but I agree - everyone else seems stuck in the middle trying to figure it out.
@@AnsonAlexander I’ve been a Mac guy for over 20 years. The one alternative that even has me turning my head with any interest is a Framework running Linux. (They’ve got official support for either Ubuntu or Fedora.)
Open source is great, but great products won't exist without someone making a profit. Many people who knew both Wozniak and Jobs in the early days have said that Wozniak's computer would have just ended up in hobby shops had it not been for Steve Jobs realizing the commercial potential. Wozniak would have continued working for HP and none of us today would know who he is. His brilliance got Apple started, but it was Steve Jobs who was responsible for the success of Apple.
Totally agree - Woz had the tech brilliance, but it was Jobs who saw how to turn it into a business. Without Jobs, Apple might have stayed a hobbyist thing, and Woz would still be at HP. It took both of them to make Apple what it is today!
@@fuseteamOpen source makes diddly squat. Red Hat is just a big consulting operation selling support for their distro. No one bother with Linux if it wasn't free.
Thank your lucky stars Jobs had the wherewithal to sell and market the Apple I and eventually the Apple II. If it wasn't for him, we would still be using green phosphor monitors and typing commands in the dark. The Mac revolutionized, not only the computer industry, but others too, including publishing, broadcasting, and music. There's a recording where Jobs envisioned a book sized computer containing all of your life works you can carry around with you. He was describing what is now the iPhone and iPad. No other person in tech has been responsible for hitting so many home runs.
Ironically Apple uses and contributes BSD code as part of its OS, but that code falls well short of a usable OS without the Apple-proprietary portions.
Yeah, some stuff is and some isn't but I just find it interesting how it started all so open and then the business guys got in and tried to keep things more closed off.
the apple ecosystem is not strictly "closed source" as you mentioned in this video, more or less 97% of it is actually based on a permissive mix of MIT/BSD license...
Yes but, while much of Apple's core, like macOS and iOS, is built on open-source licenses like MIT/BSD, Apple controls key aspects like hardware integration, app distribution, and APIs, which creates a more closed ecosystem overall.
@@AnsonAlexander Making things work, developing software for your own hardware is efficient, I don't care about the apparent lack of "freedom". The Apple tax on ram and storage is infuriating though! ^
Yeah, I mean, I’m definitely part of the ecosystem and it works well for me but I think the story of how it started is interesting and it’s fun to think about some of the “what ifs”.
I like the open source architecture thing as it can help someone understand a system quicker. That said I don't think the apple computer was that significant to the history of personal computing.
Well done. One small tweak- All the MOS Technoligy employees and people in the valley forge area contemporary with MOS and Commodore, pronounce it M-O-S. Not sure why. Perhaps to differentiate from the similar sounding competitor Mostek.
Thanks and appreciate the note on MOS. A couple other people also noticed my mispronunciation. I've added a pinned comment clarifying it and appreciate your local insight!
Just because they’re closed doesn’t mean they’re not useful. Macs are the best computers for my daily workflow so, until I retire, I’m not really interested in a boycott out of principal just because they have a closed ecosystem…
Not sure where you got that (link?) but Woz the Wizard that most people describe would likely be okay with hacking if it was doing more good than harm.
About MOS -- that Allen-Bradley company... "During the mid-1900s, mid-sized firms such as Allen-Bradley tended to embrace reactionary politics out of a fear that increased government regulation would cut into their profits. Unlike large, multinational corporations that dealt directly with customers, historian Rick Perlstein argues that these smaller companies were less concerned about potential public blowback. Allen-Bradley paid for propaganda posters that asked “Will You Be Free to Celebrate Christmas in the Future?” and circulated allegations that the Soviet Union was using mind-control techniques to keep communist nations in line. One of the company's founders, Harry Lynde Bradley, was a founding member of the John Birch Society and co-founded the Bradley Foundation, a right-wing think tank. In 1968, the NAACP and the Latino community joined in a march to protest Allen-Bradley's discriminatory hiring practices, an event that marked the beginning of Latino activism in Milwaukee."
CLARIFICATIONS:
1. Wozniak didn't INVENT the Blue Box. He got the idea from from the 1971 Esquire article “Secrets of the Little Blue Box” by Ron Rosenbaum but him and Jobs did gain notoriety for using and building them - his designs worked better than most.
2. My pronunciation of "MOS" was off. It is more authentically pronounced as M-O-S or, sometimes, as "moss". Apologies!
About MOS -- that Allen-Bradley company...
"During the mid-1900s, mid-sized firms such as Allen-Bradley tended to embrace reactionary politics out of a fear that increased government regulation would cut into their profits.
Unlike large, multinational corporations that dealt directly with customers, historian Rick Perlstein argues that these smaller companies were less concerned about potential public blowback.
Allen-Bradley paid for propaganda posters that asked “Will You Be Free to Celebrate Christmas in the Future?” and circulated allegations that the Soviet Union was using mind-control techniques to keep communist nations in line.
One of the company's founders, Harry Lynde Bradley, was a founding member of the John Birch Society and co-founded the Bradley Foundation, a right-wing think tank.
In 1968, the NAACP and the Latino community joined in a march to protest Allen-Bradley's discriminatory hiring practices, an event that marked the beginning of Latino activism in Milwaukee."
Thanks. Soft S. I though you were using a speech bot. The 6502 was an amazing processor. My first one was a KIM-1 with a massive 1K of RAM. But that was still a powerful unit, The Standford computer music lab had one directing traffic for a dozen users.
Steve Wozniak stands out as my favourite of the two Steves because he's never let wealth drive his creations. While money is undeniably necessary to cover life's basics, Woz’s primary goal has always been to share his innovations and bring joy to others. It’s rare to find visionaries like him in today’s Silicon Valley-we need more people driven by passion and creativity rather than profit. That’s also why he was upset when Jobs sold his code to Atari and only gave him a small cut while telling him it was half the money -not because of the money, but because Jobs lied. Woz just wanted to help his friend. We need more of that spirit!
Jobs was an opportunistic capitalist (greedy scumbag). He was also a weirdo who ate nothing but fruit and developed pancreatic cancer and died as a result. Good riddance.
Wozniak is a legend, it's a shame not enough people acknowledge him
I remember the late-1970s, because I was involved in the early years of microcomputing. The back pages of Byte magazine were full of Apple clones based on the 6502. For some reason, people don't seem to be aware of it. With regards to open source, I would say that Woz was part of the movement. The S-100 bus was commonly used by many manufacturers (Altair, Imsai, and so many more) on early microcomputers (predating the Apple I). The culture of the time was very focused on sharing so everyone could progress. But hey...it was the 70s! :)
That’s awesome, you were right in the middle of it all! The open-source vibe was definitely alive back then, with Woz and others pushing for collaboration. Those early days of sharing tech were what really drove innovation-gotta love the 70s!
I keep telling everybody I wish was 10 years older.
Yeh, we got a Franklin Ace (Apple II compatible (clone)) for a signif discount off the price of an Apple II at the time. It featured a dual-sided floppy disk drive, so funny to remember the "state of the art" back then.
Tech has gone from hippy dreams to capitalist dystopia
Totally agree, went from dreams to dollas quick...
@@AnsonAlexander These big corporations pushing for proprietary solutions only have so much time before there's catastrophic backlash, and much like the Apple /// and the Lisa, it will end in failure eventually. I think Microsoft is cooking themselves as we speak with Windows 11 and all of the vagaries surrounding it. Eventually they'll get what's coming to them. No empire lasts forever.
Eventually enough people will have had enough. And then the open source movement will flourish.
Or at least, that's my dream. Anyway, I think computing technology "wants" to be free. IBM tried to make the PC architecture proprietary (after they had already released it as open) by redefining it with the PS/2. You see how well that worked out. The only parts that made it into the rest of the hardware ecosystem were the mouse and keyboard ports (the only things that were improved over what existed). Years ago, they sold their PC division to lenovo, and now IBM isn't even a player in the PC market anymore.
I red a article about exact same thing you said just 1hour ago and here I found comment TH-cam. What a shocking and surprising coincident almost like synchronicity.
@@AnsonAlexandersame thing happen to internet. And now internet is boring because of it.
Those are not really opposites.
The Apple II is such a great machine. And Woz is awesome.
I remember those early days, more, or less..... 🤣 Open source is important, and Woz was right, you can move technology forward through the sharing of ideas. I'm grateful for those folks who work for something other than pure profit.
Haha, I hear you! Open source really did push things forward, and Woz was all about that collaborative mindset. Gotta appreciate those who value progress over just profit!
@@AnsonAlexanderCorporatists don't believe collaboration beats competition... Jobs was a Corporatist while Woz isn't. 🤷🏽♂️
"When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor. " ~ Paulo Freire
@@AnsonAlexander I keep looking for open source ways to replace some of my current subscription based tools, and other "obsolete ," programs, like Aperture. I sorely miss it! I paid good money for it, but Apple never moved it forward. It was a lifesaver for me editing the the hundreds and hundreds of images I'd shoot on a job. It's a pity there was not a workaround to save it.
I met and spoke with Mr. Wozniak and he was such a Gentlemen ! Very sweet and kind.
All good feelings.
sbf
I heard that in the early days of computing, software was all opensource - that it wasn't until a court forced IBM to release with a closed license that the idea of closed source started to catch on.
It seems to me that HP ignored, or threw away, opportunity after opportunity. A history of that would be interesting. And not just of HP.
I used to sell Apple IIs to businessmen with a ten-minute Visicalc demo. The spreadsheet is STILL my favorite PC app even though I no longer need it. Immense power in a user-programmable form. I use mine now to control synthesizers, write music, edit and mix. But I still consider the spreadsheet the "magic app," Woz was SUCH as sweetheart, thanks for the retrospect.
Love Woz!!
Long live The Woz!!
So, IBM PC, even copied their open design from Woz. Which led to the success of PCs, which were just hasty copies of the idea of home computer: the key was to allow clones, and having expansion boards. I see that too was entirely Woz’s idea. BTW, he wrote a BASIC too, so he did the job of Microsoft too.
The Apple was the last computer with hardware and software designed by a single person.
Sorry, but the Apple II was designed by 3-4 people. Rod Holt did the power supply. I can't remember his name but there was another guy that was crucial in helping Woz design the memory architecture (the slots, etc). Someone else did the case design (alongside with Jobs), etc. And that's just hardware.
The Apple I was solely Woz’ hardware and software.
The Apple I was basically a turn-key 8-bit computer with terminal circuitry and video output. It was super simple. Anything more complicated than that took a team to design. You're quite probably correct.
@@mitchellsmith4601 well, kinda. Woz took inspiration (copy??) from Lancaster's book TV Typewriter which is an awesome read. I mean, Lancaster probably got some of his ideas from other people, etc. That's the beauty of sharing ideas. 😀
Such an interesting man and story! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was a big fan of the Apple ][
I wouldn't touch a contemporary Apple product with a 10' pole…
I remember seeing some interesting stuff plugged into the many expansion slots, but disc drives and huge memory cards were the most impressive, especially one friend's huge 128Kb memory card (ironic these days, of course).
But certainly, the openness of the Apple ][ propelled its success and longevity.
TOTALLY AGREE! I gave up on Apple when they came up with something totally proprietary, the 128K Mac. How was I supposed to program THAT? Buying a LISA so I could program the Mac? NO THANK YOU. I switched to the PC family of products and never looked back.
Its open design certainly helps the enthusiasts keep it alive. My Apple //e has a CF card as an SSD with several partitions, as well as VGA output thanks to a card with a Raspberry Pico on it. Of course there’s people still writing and updating software for it as well. I have used Mac, Windows, and Linux, but nothing brings me more joy than my Apple //e.
Woz didn’t invent the blue box, he just built one
You are correct. I was there at the time. Blue boxes were commonly built by phone phreaks. Let's just say I have experience with them... ;)
Yeah, I should have made that more clear. It did, however, bring quite a bit of notoriety to him and Jobs though in the Berkeley circles at the time.
And let's be clear, "bypass the phone network and make free calls" is not quite accurate. A blue box was a device for stealing long distance service from the phone company.
He improved it
Steve Jobs died... Steve Wozniak is still alive
Does this mean that open source will outlive corporatism and capitalism?
Yep...
All hail the lovely penguins in their many flavours they come In...
🐧🐧🐧
I built a Woz Apple 1s back in the 70s but my memory must be odd because I thought it was 1977.
PCB and components to be assembled yourself ...
I think a lot of them actually got shipped in 77 so you’re probably not wrong. That’s awesome though. You probably didn’t realize it would lead to where Apple is today?
@@AnsonAlexander I wonder if we can still get some of those propeller hats they used to sell as you came in the club ? ...
Haha, let me know if you find them!
Sir i want to know from you how much time should i spend in the beginning to learn typing ? Please reply ..🙏🙏
Thanks for sharing
You're welcome :)
Woz kicks ass.
Windows and Macs are close sourced and today a lot of people are using them, they are made to be user friendly by hiding away most of the systems. Same thing with Android and IOS and even Steam Deck. It is just turn on, plug and play, opening files and close the files,, occasionally clone and transfer the files, turn it off.
Linux and other Unix like OS are open source and not a lot of people use it.
Lesson: Most humans are simple, true to the word simple, they prefer things to be made simple. Few can go beyond simple. Steve Jobs simplified the product, told people that it can do magic, and the money started flowing in. Simplicity - limitations sells, for most people that is.
Whether apple or orange you have to pay. Paytm. That's why keep unix free code somewhere.
Shocking
Crazy how it all began!
4:30 the same HP - “the computer is personal again”? 😂
Sony isn't a very good comparison. They invented some advancements in early solid state during early radio and TV, and the Trinitron was a big deal but it was adopted by industry. The Apple large CRTs during G4, G5 days were Mitsubishi "Diamondtrons".
Sony was who Jobs always mentioned, starting in the 80s and all the way up into the 2000s.
He would cry at the apple silicone macs
I thought Richard Stallman was the father of Open Source.
Yeah he was certainly the main pioneer. I guess I just wanted to highlight Woz's role as well, especially on the hardware side with his sharing of schematics.
I woke up to see this mate! Haha
So it is possible to live in system with out money slaving, Have a nice day
It is, mostly with Linux but you can do it with any OS really but it takes a good amount of technical know-how still. I believe Woz wanted it to happen sooner...
Lots of mixed feelings here. I've never warmed up to Apple. Never bought any Apple products. Even back in the early 80's, Apple seemed like an elitist "Sell the sizzle, not the steak" sort of company, producing high quality, but grossly overpriced products. And frankly the more I hear about Jobs, the less I like him.
Steve Wozniak on the other hand, is an amazing individual, who I have the utmost respect for. He changed the World for the better and continues to do so. The computer he designed and built was awesome. It's Apple I don't like. My first computer was the TRS-80 from Radio Shack (which built its business on DIY), before I moved on the the Amiga, where I think Jay Miner had an attitude much more in line with Steve Wozniak's.
I FAR prefer companies and organizations who put customers and hobbyists first and encourage innovation, as compared with those whose business model is to dazzle their hapless lemmings with slick promos, and then suck every last penny they can from them.
Remember when apple started charging to the Mac Os releases? Then they want back to free. As a child growing up in the 80's. I had a early interest in computer and asked everybody I could about them. Great stories was told. Some of it was True. Some of it was not. I'm still finding facts and myths today about the 1970's and early 80's. One thing that came to mind was reading an article about how apple Couldn't get the clones for building Apple II boards since the hardware was all open source and the diagram was in the back of the book Thus, whey they focused so much on the rom. Then when the Mac came around. You will find some good articles about protection in that.
Wozniak is only part of the early movement, the free software movement predates the open source movement.
But he was doing it with hardware...
Imagine how advanced we would be as a species if our recent technological advances were made for the betterment of mankind and not just for revenue....
And people think I'm crazy for hating on Steve jobs..
Technological access and user simplicity are both positive goals, but can end up being in tension. I think today there are only two laptop makers who are really doing anything interesting: Apple with a perfected take on the locked-down approach, and Framework with an open platform and upgrade paths. Each one can pursue its own advantages to their full extent, while everyone else is just awkwardly in the middle.
You make a great point! Apple’s locked-down approach is super polished, while Framework's open design gives users a lot of flexibility. It’s cool to see both extremes being done well, but I agree - everyone else seems stuck in the middle trying to figure it out.
@@AnsonAlexander I’ve been a Mac guy for over 20 years. The one alternative that even has me turning my head with any interest is a Framework running Linux. (They’ve got official support for either Ubuntu or Fedora.)
Open source is great, but great products won't exist without someone making a profit. Many people who knew both Wozniak and Jobs in the early days have said that Wozniak's computer would have just ended up in hobby shops had it not been for Steve Jobs realizing the commercial potential. Wozniak would have continued working for HP and none of us today would know who he is. His brilliance got Apple started, but it was Steve Jobs who was responsible for the success of Apple.
Absolutely.
Totally agree - Woz had the tech brilliance, but it was Jobs who saw how to turn it into a business. Without Jobs, Apple might have stayed a hobbyist thing, and Woz would still be at HP. It took both of them to make Apple what it is today!
Granted open source can make a profit too: Red Hat is the biggest example of this being a billion dollar company
@@fuseteamOpen source makes diddly squat. Red Hat is just a big consulting operation selling support for their distro. No one bother with Linux if it wasn't free.
Thank your lucky stars Jobs had the wherewithal to sell and market the Apple I and eventually the Apple II. If it wasn't for him, we would still be using green phosphor monitors and typing commands in the dark. The Mac revolutionized, not only the computer industry, but others too, including publishing, broadcasting, and music.
There's a recording where Jobs envisioned a book sized computer containing all of your life works you can carry around with you. He was describing what is now the iPhone and iPad. No other person in tech has been responsible for hitting so many home runs.
The Wozniak the Boz
So Jobs was an oppressor... 🤷🏽♂️
Woz > Jobs
Doh, is was always pronounced Moss technology the same as the MOS transistor, where did Moz come from
Prolly because of the number of times I said "Woz" when making this video...
Man, what happened to being open source?
It’s still there, it’s just profit driven.
Ironically Apple uses and contributes BSD code as part of its OS, but that code falls well short of a usable OS without the Apple-proprietary portions.
Yeah, some stuff is and some isn't but I just find it interesting how it started all so open and then the business guys got in and tried to keep things more closed off.
This, exactly!
Greedy capitalist sumbitches, that's what!
the apple ecosystem is not strictly "closed source" as you mentioned in this video, more or less 97% of it is actually based on a permissive mix of MIT/BSD license...
Yes but, while much of Apple's core, like macOS and iOS, is built on open-source licenses like MIT/BSD, Apple controls key aspects like hardware integration, app distribution, and APIs, which creates a more closed ecosystem overall.
@@AnsonAlexander Making things work, developing software for your own hardware is efficient, I don't care about the apparent lack of "freedom". The Apple tax on ram and storage is infuriating though! ^
Yeah, I mean, I’m definitely part of the ecosystem and it works well for me but I think the story of how it started is interesting and it’s fun to think about some of the “what ifs”.
I like the open source architecture thing as it can help someone understand a system quicker.
That said I don't think the apple computer was that significant to the history of personal computing.
It’s not pronounced “moz” it’s pronounced “moss”
i think they were pirates to begin with
Then why you have an iMac?
Because it's the best computer for my workflows and, of course, I'm pretty deep in the ecosystem.
"open source" is a malicious corporate pr term for free software, free software was pioneered by the GNU project.
Well done. One small tweak- All the MOS Technoligy employees and people in the valley forge area contemporary with MOS and Commodore, pronounce it M-O-S. Not sure why. Perhaps to differentiate from the similar sounding competitor Mostek.
Thanks and appreciate the note on MOS. A couple other people also noticed my mispronunciation. I've added a pinned comment clarifying it and appreciate your local insight!
XNU, mac kernel, is open source.
The low level frameworks like XNU and Darwin are open source but most of macOS is not.
@@AnsonAlexander yes! But macos is great 😊
I didn't miss the fact this guy has a Mac. most closed company now and this guy supports it. How odd.
Just because they’re closed doesn’t mean they’re not useful. Macs are the best computers for my daily workflow so, until I retire, I’m not really interested in a boycott out of principal just because they have a closed ecosystem…
@@AnsonAlexander So, you're a hypocrite. I get it.
Answer: The need for Greed and Control. That should answer you question of why.
Wiz now against hacking, so he killed the freedom
Not sure where you got that (link?) but Woz the Wizard that most people describe would likely be okay with hacking if it was doing more good than harm.
LOL - iphone 16 looks like a copy of the realme C67 4G with a worse screen.
nah wrd
About MOS -- that Allen-Bradley company...
"During the mid-1900s, mid-sized firms such as Allen-Bradley tended to embrace reactionary politics out of a fear that increased government regulation would cut into their profits.
Unlike large, multinational corporations that dealt directly with customers, historian Rick Perlstein argues that these smaller companies were less concerned about potential public blowback.
Allen-Bradley paid for propaganda posters that asked “Will You Be Free to Celebrate Christmas in the Future?” and circulated allegations that the Soviet Union was using mind-control techniques to keep communist nations in line.
One of the company's founders, Harry Lynde Bradley, was a founding member of the John Birch Society and co-founded the Bradley Foundation, a right-wing think tank.
In 1968, the NAACP and the Latino community joined in a march to protest Allen-Bradley's discriminatory hiring practices, an event that marked the beginning of Latino activism in Milwaukee."