The slow drop is a safety feature in case the lower is triggered whilst someone is still underneath. To give them warning and time to escape. It’s a feature on industrial units.
I have been looking for a budget lift for my garage here in the US. I really don’t care if it’s made in China as long as it’s solidly built and it’s within my budget. I like the design of this one and it seems pretty well made to me. Plus it has that open middle area which I want. And I have to say you did a good job rerouting all those lines. The electrical work was done very well…..kudos my friend.
I bought one of these generic lifts several years ago and am very happy with it. Very strong and simple to use. The big advantages are ease of use with a wide variety of vehicles, no need to modify the floor to use it (they spread the load over a huge area) and they are relatively easy to move around with the provided wheel set. They are a very good compromise for a home garage and can be easily taken with you if you move house. Be aware that they don't seem to ship with any grease in the pivot points, so hit them hard with grease on initial install.
@@seweryndymkowski5085 there is unfortunately just 1 setting for lowering speed - because the lift doesn’t know of there is load or not. If you set it slow while there is car on the lift, it will be really slow if the lift is empty. It is set by simple screw on the hydraulic pump that you loosen/tighten and it is regulating how fast the fluid can go thru that valve.
Alfie, thanks much for this video. I just bought one of these Chinese import scissor lifts here in the States. Your video on getting this heavy monster off the pallet and onto the floor was excellent!
Man, just a big thank you for this detailed video !! It help me so much to correct the same problems as you, the wrong side of the hydraulic and cables, and the time he needs to go up before it goes down (because of my low level roof)
Interesting video, nice product, and very tidy work. Maybe this is a silly question, but couldn't you have just turned the lift around to put the fittings on the side you needed? Does it matter which way the lift is oriented? Thanks, and cheers from Canada.
Thanks for watching - not a silly question at all - I reckon I should have clarified that in the video. You can turn the lift around, but the engine needs to be at front part of the lift - there is even a warning sticker on the lift reminding of this. Reason for that is that the rear "legs" are moving towards the front when it is raised. Therefore cars which are front heavy (ie. most FWD cars) the weight needs to be at the leg which is not moving - otherwise in extreme situation, the car could fall off the lift. This is unlikely to happen as usually the weight difference between front and rear is not huge - but it is better to be safe than sorry :)
I have a simliar-ish lift and no where in any of the documentation does it say anything about the "engine end" of the lift. Does that mean you will not be able to reverse onto your lift?
@@jagster0810 well mine does have a sticker (nothing in documentation either). I'm not planning to reverse on the lift, although I think nothing would really happen. To me the sticker does make logic though even if probably it is "over-cautions" 🙂
Thanks for the well done video. I am in the exact same situation. Two cars in a two-car garage with around 2 1/2 m ceiling height. I purchased a similar lift sold under the brand K Tool in the USA. It was a difficult decision due to lack of videos on the subject. FYI I am very pleased with mine after nearly a year.
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You can do that too, but front of the car should be at the front of the lift due to cars are mostly front heavy and the rear section of the legs is moving towards the front when your raising the lift. Also I could extend the cable, but not the hydraulic hoses as I don’t have any means to do that.
@@AlfisGarageYou still could've turned it around and parked your car reverse. that's unless something forbids you from doing that on the ceiling ofc. One of my car is rear heavy so turning it around could've worked for me anyway. For my SUV, I would have to park it reverse then.
@@ak-iy4yb if I park in reverse, drivers door would be at the wall and I couldn’t get out of the car 😃 This is the only way this would work for me. Others of course may have different situation 👍
@@garageproductions359 thanks, I’m not using it too often, but whenever I have to work on car, I’m looking forward to it rather than delaying it like before 🤣
3.5 seconds is probably the required lift time for a full load (3500kg) vehicle. If your vehicle is half that you can get away with half the back off time to lower the vehicle. Just keep in mind if you ever put a Tesla on it (3000kg in some models) the back off time won’t be long enough and you won’t be able to lower the lift without modifying the timer.
I don't think he'll have to worry about that problem with a Tesla, that you mentioned. Only fools purchase Tesla "vehicles". And this man does not seem to me to be a fool.
There is a chrome pin at the top of the rams you need to check the position and tightness of the grub screws ,plus the magnetic push piston that lift the ratchet latches need to be kept clean from dust build up , other wise the lift is good for years use.Any problems with the lift not lifting look at the trip switch near the safety latch as these can get damaged very easily .You have to drive your car so the engine is over the hydraulic rams or you can bend the lift with a heavy car.👍
I hired a mini digger with driver and watched him dig in the pre-marked place a pit then re-enforced it, added lights and made up a strong cover from railway sleepers/holders with handles 🛤 . Painted them bright yellow 😅 et voilà. Now i can stand underneath the car and all done with €350 💪. But your choice is fine as me personally my one suited me best. Good video👌👍
@JeronimoStilton14 By putting metal rods diagonally then horizontally around the walls and the floor then ³ inch mixed concrete and once dried i added metal frame on the inside all around and L shaped metal bar around the top edges just to make sure it doesn't collapse under heavy loads. As they say around here " just to be sure, to be sure, to be sure"
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Hi Alfi. Regarding swapping cables / pipes: could you have just turned the lift around so that they exited on the other side near your garage wall? Or does the lift have to go a particular way? Thanks from UK. Ignore this: I've just watched your later video where you explain why!
OK, this might be a stupid question, but why not just rotate the entire assembly 180 degrees. It looks like you have ramps on the front and the back. That would have put your hoses on the other side, although the control box would have been in the corner nearest the garage door.
Not a stupid question at all!. There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
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Hallo Marcus! Thank you for watching! I purchased thru local eshop: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
All i have is an open space with a roof, but no garage. Is it possible to hold it in outdoor conditions? We have lots of rain and snow on the cold seasons.
@@AlfisGarage Thank You for answering. Do You know if such lifts are somehow waterproof themselves? Because i'm trying to figure out a plan for a wooden covering box with a bag inside that wouldn't let the moisture to sink in lift parts. In my country they look very similar to yours, but cost 1.5k Eur. They all look pretty much the same, even the US ones, maybe different controller boxes. The maker says you can use it in 0 degrees celsium as for the lowest temperature, but we get -20 some times. And yes I would need to work with it even if there is a negative temperature. Do you know anything about that? What if i don't use it in negative temp and just leave it as it is would that do anything bad to it? There is absolutely no problem covering the controller box, already have a plan ahead, but the lift itself
This is a KPN 3500 from Polish brand Kupczyk. It does not seem to be available at the retailer where I bought it, but if you google it, you can still find it.
You can drive on to the lift from both sides but Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front. If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it. I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
@@AviatorsGarage Thanks for watching! All scissor lifts have front and rear side and the front can bear more weight, where the engine usually is. I have a follow up video, as many people asked the same question :) th-cam.com/video/XTJm9Wge5FI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Dk3pmysWFjCjGldw
Possibly yes, but if I’d turn the lift around, the front side would be at the door and I would have to backup onto the lift. The engine of the car should be at the front of the lift. Also the hose would be a bit too short to put the control panel the way I wanted.
I have one bought here in the US 8 yrs ago rate for 5000.00 lb. Pay like $1700.00. I have used it a lot. After multiple used. Hydraulic cylinder is getting weaker. Still work good but I don't trust it locking mechanism. So I only raise up to about 18 to 24 inch and put solid wood blocks under 4 tires just incase hydraulic fail. Raise 18 to 24 inch high is sufficent for most jobs you need to do for your car. I have replaced transmission using that setup. Better be safe than sorry.
@@AlfisGarageI have life insurance...but I would be not working under that thing without a proper security bolt on lock system. Changing tires and some brakes job ok, but going underneath is a death wish for every person with common sense.
Hello. It will be very helpful. By the way, is it possible to post a link where I can see the manufacturer and model number of the product I purchased? I'm looking at Alibaba in China, but there are so many models I'm confused. Thank you.
Hi, this is Kupczyk KPN-3500. This one is "made in Poland" but I think it is just rebranded china lift. Indeed there are many types/models, so you need to check parameters and size on each one to find the one which fit your needs.
@@junebrooks665 BTW there are single phase versions of these lifts and they are usually even cheaper. I opted for 3 phase because my single phase breaker for garage is only 16A and the 2.2kW motor could trip that sometimes when starting (at least my compressor does)
Yeah that’s true, I was considering the indepentent ones, but all of those are supposed to be secured to the floor, which I didn’t want to do. Surely they seem like good option too 👍
It seems to me that if you had turned the lift through 180 degrees (front to back) all of the hydraulic and electrical connections would have been on the "wall" side? What do I know......
That is correct, but the lift has front side which should be at the front of the car due to fact that most cars are front heavy. If I would turn it around I would have to reverse onto the lift. I’ll do a follow up video because the question was raised many times :)
There is a screw/valve on the hydraulic pump that you either loosen or tighten to change how quickly the fluid flows. There is only 1 setting with or without load. If you set it slower while there is a load, it will be REALLY slow if there is no load.
In my case, when the car is on the lift and I want to lower it, it can be said that the car is falling and not lowering, I don't know where to look for the reason. Poland
@@seweryndymkowski5085 that was same for me :D look at my video at 5:50 you can see two “ screws” at the side of the pump - the black is a fitting for hydraulic - and behind it the silver screw is the valve. You need to tighten it a little bit - then test it.
@@MarcoAspaas if interested, watch my follow up video, where among others I answer this question too :) th-cam.com/video/XTJm9Wge5FI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MJ_IwS_mhkRjnRGK
I like your video .could explanations on assembly good lighting the only thing I don't like , and this is just my criticism ,is the music. I've been a musician for 50 years when I keep hearing the same thing over and over and over again for 20 minutes it really starts to drive me nuts .you could have a little bit of light jazz playing that would be more suitable more calming and probably better for your video just a suggestion . I had to actually turn to sound down just to watch the rest of the video I only got about halfway through before I was ready to either turn it off or just turn down the music . all the best
He really don't care. Doing the same in next videos. Try to tell us something with music (most annoying one) in background. Will answer You only "Thanks for watching and for feedback"
This is not Chinese equipment but POLISH. The company is located in Niepołomice in Poland and has been supplying equipment to car workshops for over 30 years. And that is probably why it works as it should and does not fall apart after a week of use like most Chinese inventions...
There is indeed front side of the lift and the front of car should be on the front of the lift, due to weight distribution and the way how legs are moving. I’ll do a follow up video as the question was raised many times :)
Mine looks very similar except mine are black and named Teclift, it is marked in instructions as you mentioned in comments, the cars heavy side ( front) must be on same side as lift cylinder. Ill do the same as you in video, thanks for the tip...
@@noelhenderson8095 that’s correct, if you check my follow up video, I made a dolly with which I can move it to the center of garage if I need to work on the side of a car.
That would mean the lift would be backwards and you’re supposed to have the front of the car at the front of the lift, due to possible weight shift. I reckon that is unlikely to happen, but moving the hoses around wasn’t such a big task, so I rather did it to be on the safe side :)
@@jayroc1502 you’re right, I probably shouldn’t because I’m not a mechanic… but because many mechanics shoudn’t work on cars either, so I have to myself….
@@Tony-wd4uf seems it’s no longer available at my local supplier, but it is a Polish brand, look here: sklep.kupczyk.pl/podnosnik-nozycowy-3-5t-kpn-3500-kupczyk-mobilny-s,3,19653,22586?srsltid=AfmBOoqpI6qZdTWc754YStaT3CUl50y2liUQr8s_Ygb6zbym0y-6aDoL
@@antoinevandamme6506 you are correct, but the lift would be backwards and car should be at the front of the lift due to weight distribution. I’ll do a follow up video where I’ll explain as the same question was raised by many 👍
Well most 2 post lifts that I’ve seen were about 2.8m tall so they would barely fit - but I wouldn’t be able to raise the car much higher anyway - when I raise my M5 to 1 meter with this I have about 30cm left 👍
When its loaded one second will not be enough to ensure that both security latches are fully released, if one get caught the ramp could drop only on one side !!!!!
Thanks for watching. That’s a valid point, I tested it with car and I think I left it somewhere around 1.5sec. I agree if it would be below 1 sec this could cause an issue. Having said that, the bottom tubes are synchronizers and should not allow one of the ramps go much lower than the other - but of course I never tested :) Have you experienced an issue like that?
Thanks for pointing out the timer. Never noticed it before and had some white knuckle moments hoping that the car wouldn't hit the ceiling before it went down. Going to make some adjustments. Thanks
Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front. If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it. I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
Not exactly true. Although you can use the lift backwards, the front of the lift has more weight bearing than the rear, so it depends on the car you will use it for. I have a follow up video explaining that. Also - I haven't done anything I can't revert, so warranty should be still covered.
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front. If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it. I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
Agree and I actually did - I mentioned it in 17:45 of the video. It’s not rubber, but something similar and it really helps to keep the lift from moving around
No, I paid about 2500 EUR and I think you can find them even cheaper. That's including taxes, shipping, etc. 4000$ should get you a Twin Busch or something similar.
Of course that would be the easiest, but I have a door to the house on that side, so it wouldn't be practical for me - and I simply wanted to have the lift exactly where it is :) BTW, changing over the lines was really simple.
The issue was that the hydraulics and cables were coming out between the two parking spots in the garage. I wanted them to come out at the wall side of the lift :)
I don't know from what I see. The thing has wheels. All you have to do is spin it around the other way and your wires would be on the other side. Against the wall tinstead, you instead, you spend 10 hours disconnecting everything moving it to the other side which was I don't think of it anyway, whatever you want to do that's all I would have done was just spun the damn thing around. Easy peasy
I wish it would be that easy :) The lift has its front and back side - the way how the legs move, the front can handle more weight and that is why the front of the car should be on the front side of the lift. If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift. BTW - it may seem a bigger struggle than it was, but I swapped the lines and cables in about an hour and half... and that was with filming.
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Not that easy, because the lift has a front and rear side and the front is capable for more weight. Since most cars are front heavy, the car front needs to be at the front of the lift. I’m actually surprised how many people have raised this question. I’ll do a follow up video where I’ll try to explain.
Bonjour, Un pont qui est bien pratique pour certains travaux mais, pas très pratique pour faire des gros travaux dessous à cause de sa hauteur minimale ou alors, prévoir une fosse au centre sur la longueur mais ça demanderait un travail en maçonnerie et un calcul pour éviter que le pont ne tombe pas...
Bonjour, of course you are correct - it is easier to work underneath a two-post lift, but that wouldn't fit in any usual home garage + I couldn't raise the car any higher anyway. Also two post lift takes up a lot more room. As you say, you could "dig a hole" but that is not an option for me :)
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
I don’t get it you mentioned how you were concerned about #Warranty and that’s why you didn’t buy from China, you definitely don’t have any warranty now you cut up the wires
Fair question, but depending on what goes wrong, cutting up the cables may or may not be related to the warranty claim. Also, i could still put everything back as it was - I didn’t do any irreversible changes.
Your going to Love it! Working on the ground is very difficult and limits greatly what you can do. Cheer from the USA.
The slow drop is a safety feature in case the lower is triggered whilst someone is still underneath. To give them warning and time to escape. It’s a feature on industrial units.
I have been looking for a budget lift for my garage here in the US. I really don’t care if it’s made in China as long as it’s solidly built and it’s within my budget. I like the design of this one and it seems pretty well made to me. Plus it has that open middle area which I want. And I have to say you did a good job rerouting all those lines. The electrical work was done very well…..kudos my friend.
Thanks for watching! :)
Right! But he needed local support/warranty... The whole world doesn't have Prime
I bought one of these generic lifts several years ago and am very happy with it. Very strong and simple to use. The big advantages are ease of use with a wide variety of vehicles, no need to modify the floor to use it (they spread the load over a huge area) and they are relatively easy to move around with the provided wheel set.
They are a very good compromise for a home garage and can be easily taken with you if you move house.
Be aware that they don't seem to ship with any grease in the pivot points, so hit them hard with grease on initial install.
Thanks for the tip, I’ll check grease on joints.
@@AlfisGarage Hello, do you know how to set the lowering speed of the lift with a load?
@@seweryndymkowski5085 there is unfortunately just 1 setting for lowering speed - because the lift doesn’t know of there is load or not. If you set it slow while there is car on the lift, it will be really slow if the lift is empty.
It is set by simple screw on the hydraulic pump that you loosen/tighten and it is regulating how fast the fluid can go thru that valve.
Alfie, thanks much for this video. I just bought one of these Chinese import scissor lifts here in the States. Your video on getting this heavy monster off the pallet and onto the floor was excellent!
@@walterabbott5347 Thanks! Glad it helped :)
Man, just a big thank you for this detailed video !!
It help me so much to correct the same problems as you, the wrong side of the hydraulic and cables, and the time he needs to go up before it goes down (because of my low level roof)
Thanks for watching, I’m glad it helped! :)
Nice Job!
Don't know how I found you channel; my first video.
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@@rea8755 Thanks for watching! :)
Interesting video, nice product, and very tidy work. Maybe this is a silly question, but couldn't you have just turned the lift around to put the fittings on the side you needed? Does it matter which way the lift is oriented? Thanks, and cheers from Canada.
Thanks for watching - not a silly question at all - I reckon I should have clarified that in the video.
You can turn the lift around, but the engine needs to be at front part of the lift - there is even a warning sticker on the lift reminding of this.
Reason for that is that the rear "legs" are moving towards the front when it is raised.
Therefore cars which are front heavy (ie. most FWD cars) the weight needs to be at the leg which is not moving - otherwise in extreme situation, the car could fall off the lift.
This is unlikely to happen as usually the weight difference between front and rear is not huge - but it is better to be safe than sorry :)
I have a simliar-ish lift and no where in any of the documentation does it say anything about the "engine end" of the lift. Does that mean you will not be able to reverse onto your lift?
@@jagster0810 well mine does have a sticker (nothing in documentation either). I'm not planning to reverse on the lift, although I think nothing would really happen. To me the sticker does make logic though even if probably it is "over-cautions" 🙂
Mine also does not say which way round😳
@@tonyford7987 fair enough - I’ll do a follow up video, will show the sticker. I think the concern applies to all scissor lifts
man you made that unboxing way harder then it needed to be lmaoo
That's entirely possible. If you know of easier way, let us all know so that we all can learn.
Thanks for these videos , they are a game changer for the do it your self person to create and use his own work space,
Thanks for watching! Glad if it helps!
Thanks for the well done video. I am in the exact same situation. Two cars in a two-car garage with around 2 1/2 m ceiling height. I purchased a similar lift sold under the brand K Tool in the USA. It was a difficult decision due to lack of videos on the subject. FYI I am very pleased with mine after nearly a year.
Thanks for watching! These seem to be fairly well made and hope they will work for years to come :)
Could dig a pit
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Szia Kristof, koszi a pozitiv visszajelzest! 😀
why didn't you just turn it 180 degrees and extend the cable if required?
You can do that too, but front of the car should be at the front of the lift due to cars are mostly front heavy and the rear section of the legs is moving towards the front when your raising the lift.
Also I could extend the cable, but not the hydraulic hoses as I don’t have any means to do that.
I am sure if you import from china cable management should be a doodle
@@AlfisGarageYou still could've turned it around and parked your car reverse. that's unless something forbids you from doing that on the ceiling ofc. One of my car is rear heavy so turning it around could've worked for me anyway. For my SUV, I would have to park it reverse then.
@@ak-iy4yb if I park in reverse, drivers door would be at the wall and I couldn’t get out of the car 😃 This is the only way this would work for me. Others of course may have different situation 👍
@@AlfisGarage We all wish there was more than ample space in the garage. I feel you!
Nice setup. I should look something similar. Currently just working on floor or outside, in front of garage.
@@garageproductions359 thanks, I’m not using it too often, but whenever I have to work on car, I’m looking forward to it rather than delaying it like before 🤣
This lift is sold under many brands. It’s awesome. Got rid of my quick jack for this.
3.5 seconds is probably the required lift time for a full load (3500kg) vehicle. If your vehicle is half that you can get away with half the back off time to lower the vehicle. Just keep in mind if you ever put a Tesla on it (3000kg in some models) the back off time won’t be long enough and you won’t be able to lower the lift without modifying the timer.
That's a good point, thankfully it's easy to change it back if ever needed 👍
I don't think he'll have to worry about that problem with a Tesla, that you mentioned. Only fools purchase Tesla "vehicles". And this man does not seem to me to be a fool.
@@johnsmith7676 haha :) I've got nothing against Tesla's, but don't see myself owning one in near future.
There is a chrome pin at the top of the rams you need to check the position and tightness of the grub screws ,plus the magnetic push piston that lift the ratchet latches need to be kept clean from dust build up ,
other wise the lift is good for years use.Any problems with the lift not lifting look at the trip switch near the safety latch as these can get damaged very easily .You have to drive your car so the engine is over the hydraulic rams or you can bend the lift with a heavy car.👍
Thank you for advice, I will check that 👍
I hired a mini digger with driver and watched him dig in the pre-marked place a pit then re-enforced it, added lights and made up a strong cover from railway sleepers/holders with handles 🛤 . Painted them bright yellow 😅 et voilà. Now i can stand underneath the car and all done with €350 💪.
But your choice is fine as me personally my one suited me best.
Good video👌👍
reinforced it how?
@JeronimoStilton14 By putting metal rods diagonally then horizontally around the walls and the floor then ³ inch mixed concrete and once dried i added metal frame on the inside all around and L shaped metal bar around the top edges just to make sure it doesn't collapse under heavy loads. As they say around here " just to be sure, to be sure, to be sure"
Very good video - easy to follow and great workmanship.
Thank you for watching! 🙂
Nice, any link on where to buy?
Thanks for watching! This is where I bought it from: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
Could you not just turn the lift 180 degrees instead of rerunning the lines? Just an idea. No real front of back to the lift.
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Probably a good idea to wear more appropriate footwear when handling heavy things
Can’t argue with that :)
Hi Alfi. Regarding swapping cables / pipes: could you have just turned the lift around so that they exited on the other side near your garage wall? Or does the lift have to go a particular way? Thanks from UK. Ignore this: I've just watched your later video where you explain why!
Thanks for watching! :)
What is high of first locking point high from floor how many inches
Thanks
@@AndrzejSidorowicz I never measured it, but I think its about 20inches, ie. About half a meter
You can use it to lift crates of tyskie and zyweich. Love from england
OK, this might be a stupid question, but why not just rotate the entire assembly 180 degrees. It looks like you have ramps on the front and the back. That would have put your hoses on the other side, although the control box would have been in the corner nearest the garage door.
Not a stupid question at all!. There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Toll gemacht Dankeschön fürs mitnehmen darf ich mal fragen was der spaß gekostet hat und woher sie es bezogenen haben mfg Marcus Deutschland und schöne Grüße
Hallo Marcus! Thank you for watching! I purchased thru local eshop: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
All i have is an open space with a roof, but no garage. Is it possible to hold it in outdoor conditions? We have lots of rain and snow on the cold seasons.
@@RokasSileika I suppose you can, I’ve seen similar lifts being used outside, but they had somekind of plastic cover for the controller box
@@AlfisGarage Thank You for answering. Do You know if such lifts are somehow waterproof themselves? Because i'm trying to figure out a plan for a wooden covering box with a bag inside that wouldn't let the moisture to sink in lift parts. In my country they look very similar to yours, but cost 1.5k Eur. They all look pretty much the same, even the US ones, maybe different controller boxes. The maker says you can use it in 0 degrees celsium as for the lowest temperature, but we get -20 some times. And yes I would need to work with it even if there is a negative temperature. Do you know anything about that? What if i don't use it in negative temp and just leave it as it is would that do anything bad to it? There is absolutely no problem covering the controller box, already have a plan ahead, but the lift itself
where did you buy it? Which brand, model? Nothing in description? Link or name will help us, Thank you
This is a KPN 3500 from Polish brand Kupczyk. It does not seem to be available at the retailer where I bought it, but if you google it, you can still find it.
good video. loved the modification.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you are able to drive onto the lift from either side, would turning the lift 180 degrees have worked to get the hoses and wires on the other side?
You can drive on to the lift from both sides but Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front.
If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it.
I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
Thanks Alfie.
Scissor lifts are universal, made for front, mid, or rear engine cars.
@@xromeodelacruzx that is of course true 👍
Just to clarify - this one has been designed and made in Poland. This is not cheap Chinese ****.
That's good to hear! Is there any resource online to get that confirmed?
Many thanks for the video. Where did you buy this from please. link to the the seller please
Thanks for watching! This is where I bought it from: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
Great video! Question- how come you didn’t just turn the lift 180 degrees? It would have moved the cables to the other side? 🤔
@@AviatorsGarage Thanks for watching! All scissor lifts have front and rear side and the front can bear more weight, where the engine usually is. I have a follow up video, as many people asked the same question :) th-cam.com/video/XTJm9Wge5FI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Dk3pmysWFjCjGldw
I like you unpacking method is awesome
What brand and where u buy in USA ? Looks good !
This one is a Polish brand - Kupczyk, I don't think they have US shop, but I'm sure there are very similar lifts in US for similar price
whats that lighter you used for heat shrink? you hit it on the floor and it lit up?? looked good haha
It has the igniter in the back, like a ball pen :)
Nice video!!! Where did you buy it?
Thanks for watching! I bought it in local eshop - if you search for KPN-3500 you could find it. They are made in poland (or assembled in poland)
Couldn’t you just transfer you electric point to the other wall ,then turn ramp round.🥸
Possibly yes, but if I’d turn the lift around, the front side would be at the door and I would have to backup onto the lift. The engine of the car should be at the front of the lift. Also the hose would be a bit too short to put the control panel the way I wanted.
Or turn it upside down 😂
@@micktheclick1 🤣that didn't cross my mind!
Great job.
Why not just move it to the opposite side of the garage, save yourself a headache 😂
Great video! I have a very similar garage and I'm looking for a lift like yours. Where did you buy it? What was your total coast?
Thanks for watching!
I bought it from a local eshop and the total was about 2500eur. Try to google KPN-3500 to see if there is any near you.
I'm always wandering when I see people working with heavy equipment and wearing flipflops....
Safety steel toe capped socks 🤔😆
Someone who never worked in any industry….just lacking safety culture
I have one bought here in the US 8 yrs ago rate for 5000.00 lb. Pay like $1700.00. I have used it a lot. After multiple used. Hydraulic cylinder is getting weaker. Still work good but I don't trust it locking mechanism. So I only raise up to about 18 to 24 inch and put solid wood blocks under 4 tires just incase hydraulic fail. Raise 18 to 24 inch high is sufficent for most jobs you need to do for your car. I have replaced transmission using that setup. Better be safe than sorry.
Good insight! Thanks!
Maybe you have an issue with some seal in the pump?
@@AlfisGarageI have life insurance...but I would be not working under that thing without a proper security bolt on lock system. Changing tires and some brakes job ok, but going underneath is a death wish for every person with common sense.
@@The_Touring_Jedi what do you mean? It looks very safe for me, why do you find it unsafe?
Great video and hmm I would just have turned the entire unit by 180 degrees easier isn't it?
Watch my follow up video where I explain turning it around was not a solution for me 👍
Hello. It will be very helpful. By the way, is it possible to post a link where I can see the manufacturer and model number of the product I purchased? I'm looking at Alibaba in China, but there are so many models I'm confused. Thank you.
Hi, this is Kupczyk KPN-3500. This one is "made in Poland" but I think it is just rebranded china lift. Indeed there are many types/models, so you need to check parameters and size on each one to find the one which fit your needs.
Thanks！
How do you manage to get 3-phase electricity in your home!
It is pretty standard over here, all homes have 3 phase (400V) only smaller flats/apartments have usually 1 phase (230V)
@@AlfisGarage wowwww how far are we behind the world here in the UK
@@junebrooks665 BTW there are single phase versions of these lifts and they are usually even cheaper. I opted for 3 phase because my single phase breaker for garage is only 16A and the 2.2kW motor could trip that sometimes when starting (at least my compressor does)
Could you tell the price and where you buy it?
I bought from local eshop: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
the metal rods between the 2 are a pain with this lift if you want to roll underneath it. i've seen independent ones not hydraulic and much lighter.
Yeah that’s true, I was considering the indepentent ones, but all of those are supposed to be secured to the floor, which I didn’t want to do. Surely they seem like good option too 👍
It seems to me that if you had turned the lift through 180 degrees (front to back) all of the hydraulic and electrical connections would have been on the "wall" side?
What do I know......
That is correct, but the lift has front side which should be at the front of the car due to fact that most cars are front heavy. If I would turn it around I would have to reverse onto the lift. I’ll do a follow up video because the question was raised many times :)
Do you have a link of where you purchased from?
I purchased from a local eshop in Slovakia: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
Very nice lift! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Hello, do you know how to set the lowering speed of the lift with a load?
There is a screw/valve on the hydraulic pump that you either loosen or tighten to change how quickly the fluid flows. There is only 1 setting with or without load. If you set it slower while there is a load, it will be REALLY slow if there is no load.
In my case, when the car is on the lift and I want to lower it, it can be said that the car is falling and not lowering, I don't know where to look for the reason. Poland
@@seweryndymkowski5085 that was same for me :D look at my video at 5:50 you can see two “ screws” at the side of the pump - the black is a fitting for hydraulic - and behind it the silver screw is the valve. You need to tighten it a little bit - then test it.
I have one more question
is there a sensor to make the lift slow down more before the end of lowering?
@@seweryndymkowski5085 no there is no such sensor and its not possible to do something like that on simple one way pumps like this.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just turn the lift around 180 degrees, so the lines were on the other side?
@@MarcoAspaas if interested, watch my follow up video, where among others I answer this question too :) th-cam.com/video/XTJm9Wge5FI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MJ_IwS_mhkRjnRGK
I like your video .could explanations on assembly good lighting the only thing I don't like , and this is just my criticism ,is the music. I've been a musician for 50 years when I keep hearing the same thing over and over and over again for 20 minutes it really starts to drive me nuts .you could have a little bit of light jazz playing that would be more suitable more calming and probably better for your video just a suggestion . I had to actually turn to sound down just to watch the rest of the video I only got about halfway through before I was ready to either turn it off or just turn down the music . all the best
Thanks for watching and for feedback 👍
He really don't care. Doing the same in next videos. Try to tell us something with music (most annoying one) in background. Will answer You only "Thanks for watching and for feedback"
The lift works great. It's nicely made. Thanks for the video. Cheers Tony
1 minute in and I'm thinking "Excellent footware for moving heavy boxes around"!!!!
Above all comfortable! 🤣
Great video. Thanks man 👍👌💪
Thanks for watching! :)
This is not Chinese equipment but POLISH. The company is located in Niepołomice in Poland and has been supplying equipment to car workshops for over 30 years. And that is probably why it works as it should and does not fall apart after a week of use like most Chinese inventions...
@@arturrojek8034 thanks for sharing, i didn’t know that! 👍
Doing work on the transmission would be a pain with this I would think.
I hope I will never have to, but it should be doable :)
just add removable platform for center
If the car is rwd or transmission is built similar way but for euro cars that mostly are fwd it should be peace a cake
i'm curious, instead of removing all the cables and pipes, why didnt you just spin the jack around, there s no front or rear?
There is indeed front side of the lift and the front of car should be on the front of the lift, due to weight distribution and the way how legs are moving. I’ll do a follow up video as the question was raised many times :)
@@AlfisGarage Then just back the car in.
Mine looks very similar except mine are black and named Teclift, it is marked in instructions as you mentioned in comments, the cars heavy side ( front) must be on same side as lift cylinder.
Ill do the same as you in video, thanks for the tip...
It looks a little bit close to the wall bit hard to work on that side
@@noelhenderson8095 that’s correct, if you check my follow up video, I made a dolly with which I can move it to the center of garage if I need to work on the side of a car.
Just turn 180degrees?
That would mean the lift would be backwards and you’re supposed to have the front of the car at the front of the lift, due to possible weight shift. I reckon that is unlikely to happen, but moving the hoses around wasn’t such a big task, so I rather did it to be on the safe side :)
Watching you unbox that thing makes me wonder if you should even be working on cars.
@@jayroc1502 you’re right, I probably shouldn’t because I’m not a mechanic… but because many mechanics shoudn’t work on cars either, so I have to myself….
nice,link?
@@Tony-wd4uf seems it’s no longer available at my local supplier, but it is a Polish brand, look here: sklep.kupczyk.pl/podnosnik-nozycowy-3-5t-kpn-3500-kupczyk-mobilny-s,3,19653,22586?srsltid=AfmBOoqpI6qZdTWc754YStaT3CUl50y2liUQr8s_Ygb6zbym0y-6aDoL
Please do a follow up.Thanks
Sure I will! :)
Where did you buy it from,any links
I bought it from local eshop - www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
@@AlfisGarage thank you
A really good unit for the price fella.
Thanks, indeed for my space this works fine :)
I don’t want to rain on your parade, but for a Polish product, the control box contains plenty of the finest chinesium known to mankind!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Haha, I don’t doubt that :) we shall see how long it will hold!
And as a Mercediez fan, you suffer from something far worse. It's a disease, it's called overprizedesium. Good luck on your Stellantis.
if you start modifying then you have no warrantee it will always go up before going down to release any locks
I agree about the warranty, it is a risk I’m willing to take. Yes, it must go up to release the locks, I understand the principle :)
@@AlfisGarage Could you not have turned everything 180 degree than the hoses and cables are on the other side.
@@antoinevandamme6506 you are correct, but the lift would be backwards and car should be at the front of the lift due to weight distribution. I’ll do a follow up video where I’ll explain as the same question was raised by many 👍
Link to product?
I bought it from: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
Name of the liftar?… for USA im in Venezuela
It is called KPN-3500
2.8m is tall enough for a 2 post lift - especially if you dig a half pit (50cm deep would be enough for most cars).
Well most 2 post lifts that I’ve seen were about 2.8m tall so they would barely fit - but I wouldn’t be able to raise the car much higher anyway - when I raise my M5 to 1 meter with this I have about 30cm left 👍
When its loaded one second will not be enough to ensure that both security latches are fully released, if one get caught the ramp could drop only on one side !!!!!
Thanks for watching. That’s a valid point, I tested it with car and I think I left it somewhere around 1.5sec. I agree if it would be below 1 sec this could cause an issue.
Having said that, the bottom tubes are synchronizers and should not allow one of the ramps go much lower than the other - but of course I never tested :)
Have you experienced an issue like that?
Thanks for pointing out the timer. Never noticed it before and had some white knuckle moments hoping that the car wouldn't hit the ceiling before it went down. Going to make some adjustments. Thanks
Why could you not have just rotated it 180 moving the cables closer the the other wall? Surely that would have been easier?
Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front.
If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it.
I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
@@AlfisGarage Ok gotcha. Nice work with the transformation anyhow 🙂
Instead of invalidating the warranty I would have spun it round, you can use these lifts either way round
Not exactly true. Although you can use the lift backwards, the front of the lift has more weight bearing than the rear, so it depends on the car you will use it for. I have a follow up video explaining that.
Also - I haven't done anything I can't revert, so warranty should be still covered.
WHY COULDNT YOU SPIN THE WHOLE THING ROUND TO GET THE CABLES ON THE OTHER SIDE ?
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Good job! I want one..
Thanks for watching!
Wow, never seen one that goes up high enough to actually stand under the car.
No, this doesn't go that high :) I was sitting under the car. There are however also full height scissor lifts, underneath which you can stand
Nice video. I was thinking of getting similar.
Thank you for watching! If you work on your cars, just go for it! :)
why didn't you just turn it around instead of reinstalling electric and hydraulics?
Front of the car should be at the front of the lift, due to the way how scissor legs move and cars are usually heavier at the front.
If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift to be able to use it.
I’ll do a follow up video, as this question was raised couple of times :)
Nice job from POLAND 🥃
@@homegarage8100 Thanks for watching! :)
Alf put a rubber mat under the metal , no moving or scratching floor.
Agree and I actually did - I mentioned it in 17:45 of the video. It’s not rubber, but something similar and it really helps to keep the lift from moving around
do you have a link
I bought it thru a local eshop: www.mantech.sk/noznicovy-zdvihak-kpn-3500-elektromagneticke-zapadky-bez-potreby-kompresora/
Que seguridad dan de no morir aplastado y si se baje de golpe son 1500 a 2000 kilos sobre mi cabeza 😟😩
I will do a review of the lift and its security features etc. Stay tuned! :)
quickjak mighta been a better option imo
I can sit underneath the car, while I would still need to lay on the floor under the quickjack.
Everyone can be turned to how you want it to be including yours.
Why do you say yours cost $1500, but when I check them out, they're around $2500?
I don't recall I would ever say that... I actually paid about 2500 Eur for it.... so yeah, nowhere near 1500$
I wonder why you didn't just turn the unit 180 degree's so you had you line on the side you wanted? Duh...
@@DTachaJr feel free to check my follow up video where I explain why
why didn't you just simply turn the hole unit around and face the other way ????
The lift has a front side and the front of the car should be at the front of the lift due to weight distribution.
$3000-$4000 USD for this lift?
No, I paid about 2500 EUR and I think you can find them even cheaper. That's including taxes, shipping, etc. 4000$ should get you a Twin Busch or something similar.
Why don't you just turn it around instead of rerouting the lines?
@@tonyp9609 I did a follow up video explaining exactly that: th-cam.com/video/XTJm9Wge5FI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2cU4QQkxAR3fKjvp
@@AlfisGarage Sorry, only watch this video, didn't know you had a second one.
@@tonyp9609 yeah, many people had the same question, so I decided to do an update video and also show some upgrades I did in the meanwhile :)
@@AlfisGarage Thank You
Скажите номер запчасти электромагнитного подъёма тормаз...если не затруднит
Sorry, can’t see any part number on that electromagnet, but it should be some common electromagnet
Couldn't you just use it on the otherside of the garage? Then all the lines would be on the outside garage wall and not in the center.
Of course that would be the easiest, but I have a door to the house on that side, so it wouldn't be practical for me - and I simply wanted to have the lift exactly where it is :) BTW, changing over the lines was really simple.
I understand, thanks for the reply.@@AlfisGarage
The 2nd car was well in the garage already.... I don't get the issue in the first place 😆
The issue was that the hydraulics and cables were coming out between the two parking spots in the garage. I wanted them to come out at the wall side of the lift :)
I don't know from what I see. The thing has wheels. All you have to do is spin it around the other way and your wires would be on the other side. Against the wall tinstead, you instead, you spend 10 hours disconnecting everything moving it to the other side which was I don't think of it anyway, whatever you want to do that's all I would have done was just spun the damn thing around. Easy peasy
I wish it would be that easy :) The lift has its front and back side - the way how the legs move, the front can handle more weight and that is why the front of the car should be on the front side of the lift. If I would turn it around, I would have to reverse onto the lift. BTW - it may seem a bigger struggle than it was, but I swapped the lines and cables in about an hour and half... and that was with filming.
instead of redoing the hydo lins why dont you just spin the lift around
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
Just turn the lift around rather than messing with the tubes and cables.
Not that easy, because the lift has a front and rear side and the front is capable for more weight. Since most cars are front heavy, the car front needs to be at the front of the lift. I’m actually surprised how many people have raised this question. I’ll do a follow up video where I’ll try to explain.
Bonjour,
Un pont qui est bien pratique pour certains travaux mais, pas très pratique pour faire des gros travaux dessous à cause de sa hauteur minimale ou alors, prévoir une fosse au centre sur la longueur mais ça demanderait un travail en maçonnerie et un calcul pour éviter que le pont ne tombe pas...
Bonjour, of course you are correct - it is easier to work underneath a two-post lift, but that wouldn't fit in any usual home garage + I couldn't raise the car any higher anyway. Also two post lift takes up a lot more room.
As you say, you could "dig a hole" but that is not an option for me :)
Could you not of just turned the whole thing around 180 degrees?
There is actually a front side of the lift - the legs are moving towards the front when it is raising and the car front is usually heavier so it should be at front. I’ll do a follow up and will try to explain, as many people raised the question :)
I don’t get it you mentioned how you were concerned about #Warranty and that’s why you didn’t buy from China, you definitely don’t have any warranty now you cut up the wires
Fair question, but depending on what goes wrong, cutting up the cables may or may not be related to the warranty claim. Also, i could still put everything back as it was - I didn’t do any irreversible changes.
Excellent,wish l had one