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Peugeot 308 SW estate 2014 review - Carbuyer
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"The Peugeot 308 SW is a comfortable, spacious family estate car with a range of economical engines that keep running costs low."
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Very well made car. No noise, no boasting. It's the best car in its class in the world. Simple.
My first Peugeot , 40 years with a full licence.Yes its very good. Just clocked up one year with a 1.2 SW Turbo Petrol. Comfortable, enough power. Done a couple of long motorway trips fully loaded. Fuel around town is not to good,low 30,s motorway i have seen 54 MPG fully loaded, 4 adults and a toddler. Nothings broken, fallen off, starts first time. Even the local dealer has been good. I love it. Recommended.
Why so much hate on Peugeot? I really like it actually. I could do without the minimalist dash, but nothing else I can't live with.
99,9% of people who hate it are stupid little brats who never even came close to this car, let alone spent any time with it to be able to judge it, they hate something based on nothing. It won car of the year award in almost every European country, and people who know what the fuck they're talking about decided about that. This car has no major objective downsides. It's very well made, roomy, looks nice, very practical, has great modern engines, great chassis, it's very safe, very well equipped, fairly priced, etc. You don't like the screen? It's your problem, it's doesn't mean the car is bad, some of us like it. You don't like the small steering setup? Again, your personal preference, doesn't mean it's bad, some prefer it. You think it's not fun enough to drive? Well...I think you'll appreciate the comfort and refinement much more in a long run than a slightly sharper handling car, something that you'll notice only once in a while, as opposed to comfort which you notice all the time. This is car that you do a 1000 km journey in, and you come out feeling fresh like you never traveled at all, and that's something only good cars can do, regardless of price. The interior quality of this car is also top notch. No other car in the segment (and many in the segment above) feels as special inside. It has very premium feel inside, high quality soft touch plastics all over the place, real aluminium pieces, no fake materials, etc. combined with a very futuristic and minimalistic design, which actually is very claming when you sit inside it, it's a car that makes you feel good when you sit inside, or to use the cliche, it has that french charm about it, but in a modern way.
derbigpr500
woah, I never said I hated the dash. It looks absolutely great, but I could live with it having a bit more buttons. that's all I said. I really like this car, but you have to admit, the screen looks really laggy.
derbigpr500 But the reputation of Peugeot is one of boring, none to reliable cars. Isn't really changing.
+kirbyswarp Made of human waste.
It's reviewer bias. All reviews in the UK basically go like this: buy a Golf, Astra or Focus instead.
Reliability index online (Britain) places Peugeot well above VW in terms of reliability and cost of maintainance.
and another page said that the new 208 and 2008 are being much better than the older models, even the new 308 hatch people are happy whit it...
www.reliabilityindex.com/news/52/States%20of%20Repair%20%E2%80%93%20Japanese%20and%20French%20brands%20top%20international%20league%20table%20of%20car%20reliability
Let's be honest, It's very beautiful SW!
Its obvious that Carbuyer favorises Ford and their sponsor VW... For example, when they can't find any positive points of the Ford, they say that it is "fun", always!
I have that car and my dad loves the small wheel
Research your software Matt. Along the top of each screen there is a shortcut - so you DON'T have to press the a/c button on the left - touch the a/c shortcut at the top and when done it auto returns. Nice! Oh and btw, anybody who thinks the software UI on this unit is difficult to navigate knows nowt - it's dead easy - pfaff it ain't.
I have one.. and I just love the steering wheel! The legroom it's great compared to a VW Golf.. The German lobby is everywhere!
I drove the 1,6 BlueHDI 120.
Got 3,8 liter fuel consumption.
Almost two-thirds of the video talking about negatives? The screen interface complaints is reasonable but the back seat it's not too cramped at all! I bet if a Volkswagen have that legroom you'll say "The legroom is not the best in the world but it's not too bad at all!"
He complains about things that are very subjective. He doesn't like the touch screen and he doesn't like the small steering. He then presents it as bad points of the car. Why? Because he's biased, you can clearly see that in all Matts reviews of french cars, he always finds the most minor things, then overexaggerates them to make it seem like it's a shitty car. And you noticed the rear leg room as well. You see how much space there is? At least 15 cm's from his knee to the front seat, and he said there's not enough space....
He says the system is not a good as that in a vw well I was in a few new vws just to give them another chance and see what all the fuss was about!! However the Peugeot is far superior and I mean far superior in terms of quality! The screen on the new vw Passat is especially bad! When you press on one of the buttons the screen actually pixilates, it feels really bad quality like that of the quality on my old 2012 Passat! It still feels flimsy, so I really don't know why all these reviews are so German biased!
I never though that I would buy a French car, but after having test driven the 308 SW, I got completely hooked. So stylish, the touch pad really do work, instrumentation is where you can see it all the time, the small stearing weel, etc.so cool. I cannot look at the competitors any more. They are so filled with buttons, knobs and switches everywhere, why? Design for 1970s DDR? Ugly and for what purpose, when you are driving? My choice was easy, the 308 is the future, given its style, a good engine, all that is inlcuded that the competitiors charge extra for and a decent price. (And, having the fuzze box filling up the glove compartment is only for the UK market!)
Do you still have the car?
As always when it comes to reviewing french cars, they take things they personally don't like, and make it sound like the car is bad because of that. Be more objective, and less subjective.
@Carbuyer:
You are quiet wrong. When using satnav, just touch the temperature spot for a fast change of climate control.
Well if they don't care about reading the manual, that's what happens, shitty review.
Ive worked for a premium German brand in R+D. I drive a Peugeot. Motoring Journo’s know nothing and regurgitate the name carp. I might start my own channel.
The person who buys a estate car isn't expecting it to be fun, that is not the point of an estate car.
Yes, you may want an estate to fit in the kids, luggage and a dog, but why would you also not want it to be fun to drive?
Try a Merc C250 - nice kit
*****
Actually if you are going to drive tons of kilometers, you'd better need a less fun and more comfy suspension. Firmer suspension will be less confortable in spite of taking curbs faster and being more fun.
Actually this car delivers both. It is comfortable and thanks to the near perfect feel in the steering and the small steering wheel it is also so much fun on a twisty backroad. Take it out for a spin, because we all have different tastes, but I surely like a more comfortable car against one with a stiffer suspension because of the bad road we have.
Why do car buyer hate the 308 so much, it's a great car with a great choice of engines and kit, yes the screen isn't the best but it's good enough for people who want a touch screen who haven't had one before, carbuyer this car is not as bad as you think
Having driven Audi cars for a number of years, I've recently given up on them after experiencing too many QC issues with my last two A4's. Their legendary status would appear to be the result of a large wad of cash dished out to "motoring journalists" every year for favourable reviews.
I don't know what is with these car reviewers and testers..Me and a whole lot of people I know had driven in 208 and the new 308 and not one of us has problems with the steering wheel obscuring the dials. The only people I know who are complaining are the reviewers and testers. By the look of it, the presenter is just stubborn and lazy in not wanting to lower the steering while like what the designers wanted. Also, Peugeots are now more reliable than VWs. All I hear are mostly undeserved praises on German makes..
Very true. Just got a 308 and steering is absolutely amazing. The screen isn't slow at all.
Best car reviewers, love your videos. Can You tell us when can we expect the new Renault Megane 4 review?
Best Regards from Macedonia :)
They could've saved a good few minutes on this interview by just saying hi I'm Matt and I hate Peugeots.
If there was a German badge on the front of this car the driving position with the raised dials and smaller steering wheel would've been a stroke of genius. The touchscreen would've been seen as a brilliant idea to be more minimalistic in the car. I think that both Peugeot and Citroen are really starting to turn the corner with their cars and bringing out some really nice models.
as a french man i approve .
I agree. That's snobbery and received opinion for you!
Both are rife in England. I'm English by the way.
Nicely done, Matt.
Loved the 308sw with the 8 speed auto box so much that I had to put one in my driveway. Such a great little car.
its simply beauty and sensible
Really honest... thk u very much dude... best vid i found
Carbuyer Oh come on! all the negative points are all subjective, and feel exaggerated just because it's a Peugeot. I've noticed that if something innovative like the touch screen was put into a VW, it would be seen as genius, but in a Peugeot, it's suddenly laggy and a bad idea. so, on a German car the true negatives are played down, on a French car the 'negatives' are exaggerated. That sport steering wheel has no problem whatsoever. Please start making some neutral reviews!
Tbf if I was using a touch screen to do everything I would be annoyed if it took forever too
This review is very very biased.
VAG seems to pay journalists. Not only in the UK unfortunately.
Nice review, nice car.
This is my partner's new car. My problem is with the reverse gear engagement and pulling the ring up. I have quite small hands and have difficulty in holding the ring up. My partner pulls the ring from above and holds the ring but my fingers cannot reach and grip the ring to pull it up. I tried palming the ring up but then I could not push the gear stick over to the left with my wrist at that angle.My solution is to grip the ring, push it up ad then I can push the stick into reverse. It works and I love the reassuring ping when I know it is engaged i reverse! I would love to hear if others have this difficulty? It can't be just me?
Dear Mat,
(Please respond to this)
May I ask what car you have and how you came to reviewing cars because you do it so well even better then Rebecca!
Thanks so much,
Connor :-)
Like it's predecessor, will the new 308 SW have a 7 seater version?
Es uno de los autos de la marca que considero de los mejorcitos por su diseño, materiales y tamaño del maletero. Pero no me termina de convencer precisamente por el poco espacio para pasajeros dentro de la cabina.
Me lo compraría si ya no tuviera otra opción, no está tan malo después de todo.
Just remove that peugeot logo and put a german car logo like mercedes or bmw, the list of positive things for this car will be endless
you are 💯 right
Best car of 2014, officialy chosen by an International jury, still al the hate for this car. I own the hatch and it is the best value you can get in this segment. It drives so so so sweet and effortles. I have the 1.6 hdi hatch 2014, never any issues with it.
omg look at this peugeot! sooo many new things it's got to rattle! well done peugeot! keep the fire alive!
Everything In this Car Makes a VW Golf looks like a 1960 Car
1- Interior
2- Performance ( 308 Lost 200Kg ) its now very light
3- Economy 90 MPG car
4 - Space ( More boot than a BMW 5 & Audi 6 Estate )
sadly german car fanatics would still pick a Vw Golf
Hear hear. I agree. It's only issue is that it's not German enough for badge snobs. Not such a bad thing for me.
Even a Skoda is better off.
LP TH-cam Channel Yeah but is it reliable ? judging by the forums I think not.
Im looking to buy same model 2014 308 S/S Active 1.2 Petrol Automatic. I would like to get ur advice about the Engine of this car or the most problems the car must have on the long way of having the car… Im new driver just go my license couple weeks ago and i like car.. Appreciate any advice 😎🙌🏾
*4:41*
Perfectly sums up all french cars.
*Brilliant!*
I think he just chipped the bumper at 00:38 when he pulled the bag out. And it kinda hurts.
You seem to have plenty of space at the back. What are you complaining? 308 is a good car.
you guys loved the car, this review took 6 minutes, you guys normally only take 4 and some times only 3...
this car is better in is class than the rivals, you can say what you want about not being fun and i believe but that's not the point, this car is to be comfortable and safe, if you what fun wait for the 308 SW GTI, i read they are going to make it...
Maybe it took longer because it had more faults?
BartSimpson not really, they spend a lot of time showing the best state attributes it had and only complained about the fact the interior could have been made only whit nice touch plastics and that its not the funniest state on the market, the touch screen is a matter of days until you get used to it, however i agree that can not be as good as traditional buttons but face it, its a matter of time until the rest of automakers go that way to, Peugeot is not the first...
rui518
Stuff like that is pretty bad faults though, you don't want to have to change menu's every time you are going to change the heat etc. It's actually almost verging on being dangerous. User friendliness is a big part of making a good driver environment. But as Mat pointed out, it's dull to drive so you'll probably be going so slowly it won't be as much of a problem :P
G0ML3 did you realize that you have a nice virtual button for each big menu and lets face it how many times during driving access the menus? really see on your car, in mine the only thing i make a few times is changing the radio and for that you have the steering button, the air con is set when you get in the car probably adjust it once after driving but not always changing the settings...
rui518
Tbh the screen is not that good from what I can tell and on top of that there is glare. But it's French made, they rarely get everything right lol. If it was Japanese or German this wouldn't be a problem lol.
Carbuyer could you maybe do a review on the Volvo V60 plug in hybrid? im thinking about buying it but still not quite sure, you may give me the final push to cross the line. (or not)
good review
strange... I'm far from being tall person (173cm), but I had ABSOLUTELY NO problem with viewing dials over the steering wheel... and the steering wheel was not in the most low position and my sitting position was "by the book" (wrist of extended hand on top of the steering wheel, crucial "body joints" (knees, hips, elbows) approximately under 120 degrees)...
so, or the respected presenters seating position was wrong or he is a "midget"... or he simply is bias towards Peugeot cars...
Mirko Zlikovski odakle si ?
I'm 185cm and I can't get my head around how he got his seat in such a bad position. I've tried everything and I just can't see how he would drive like that 😂
CarBuyer - Sorry but your steering-wheel comments just come across as being petulant and childish; 'Why should I do that?' How about having an open-minded attitude? I tried a 208 with the same wheel - after the 2nd day it made perfect sense. I don't see any evidence of this guy encouraging innovation, or being open to alternative design. Yeah, let's all buy dull Golfs and Skodas! Sheep.
Can you do the Mercedes SLK AMG please I would very much appreciate it if you could !!!
That's a good five inches of space between leg and seat back, there's more rear storage area than a 508 SW with the seats up, and most of the issues could be sorted by fitting a more responsive touch screen (the Apple comment made me laugh, it's hardly relevant unless you're able to fit your own tablet, which you're not), or at least by having dedicated heating controls like in the 208. The dials could do with minor height adjustment - or a variation on the HUD from the 508 - if it's going to continue to be an issue (not here), and the roof line could do with being less sloped, at least until it gets towards the C pillar, though this is par for the course for estates really. It's a bit of a shame that the ergonomics do favour left-hand drivers more but at the very least, they did re-position the wipers (the 206 was strange in that the fuse box was flipped, but the wipers weren't).
Just little things, in the end, easy to drag down a score in combination but easy to put right in the next design. None of it would bother me as a 208 owner but YMMV, of course.
Looking to part exchange my hyuandi 2014 i10 for this, worth it?
Please review HONDA VEZEL HYBRID 2014
Kind of sad. This is one of the reviews that Mat doesn't end on a good note. :(
I was actually liking this car. But my biggest concern was where Mat said you have to use the touchscreen for most of the functions. And that (as he said) can be dangerous because it requires you to take your eyes off the road.
Funny irony in how he usually bashes the back middle seat in cars. But this was one case where it was actually the best back seat.
is it reliable car?
Nice vid
What's a fuse box?
You have to admit that not a bad looker
Why do you never recommend the Mazda 6 estate?
Then again, that makes me wonder, do all 308 come with touchscreen? Is there a cheap standard model with normal heat controls?
the base model, normal radio and normal heater controls, but no AC...
Love how subs don't match most of the time.
Should talk about power to weight ratio for all car reviews...
It's not important in these reviews.
I would love it if you could review the new 308 gt line 1.2 auto as im gonna order it.
+Chris Miller We probably won't do a video of it any time soon, but my colleague drove one yesterday and says it has a good cabin, drives well, and only has a few "ergonomic quirks". The diesel and Puretech engines are both "very good" though both have a Sport button that pumps artificial engine noises into the cabin... a matter of taste!
Thanks for the quick reply definately going for the 1.2 puretech auto, think the sport mode is an extra don't know if its worth it for a bit of synthetic noise. Thanks again
I think Peugeot is trying to bring in more younger buyers, the inside styling is defenetly a bit futuristic and then like i already said the touchscreen: "how cool it is to change heating in a touchscreen". Basically putting all the everyday actions on the touchscreen.
It's actually a move by PSA to make Peugeout more premium whilst Citroën remains affordable. This car is meant to take some customers from Mercedes (C-class) and BMW (3-series) by offering more modern features.
Erik Nyberg not c-class or 3-series but a-class and 1-series, peugeot will not be the premium brand, it will be the best non premium brand on the road that will be able to take down a few premium brands, DS will be the ones being premium...
rui518 308 is a much bigger car than the A class and 1-series. C class and 3-series are the higher end "low-cost" products of the premium Germans, PSA wants to attract these customers by offering more for less. You can read more about it here: goo.gl/fYSKBN
Erik Nyberg but the size is very different, the 3 series is 30 cm longer than the 308, however when we are talking about the SW and the touring the story is a little different, the BMW is only 5 cm bigger and has less 115 liters of space, the price difference is considerable, i just made a configuration and the 308 sw whit 2.0 hdi auto full extras is 42,000€ bmw 320d ED auto whit similar extras (possible a few of them are not completely similar is hard to see) is 65,000€...
Just the time will tell, but this guys on this videos always put down french cars...
Ù@@rui518
From what I can see is that the screen is very responsive and the steering wheel looks ok. Made up downsides.
I get hate for the steering wheel but i love it. A lot of problems with the car tho. After 93.000km....
Magma Hi what kind of problems you had ?
Only real problem is air conditioning controlled through very unfriendly touch screen. Can be easily solved through one physical knob controlling temperature on driver side, which is really the only one needed while driving.
Damn i love Matts reviews...
Thats why i started to ignore those poor ones made by rebeca...
One major gripe i have about this car and those similar to it is the engine itself. The point of the smaller engine is to maintain a good fuel economy. However what happens when you load the car up with people and luggage, it tends to bog down quite a bit. What good is a car that cannot overtake due to the fact that its weighted down with friends, family, and stuff?
i think that the engine has enough power for overtake, i have a 406 SW HDi it has less torque and less power than this one and wights almost more 300 Kilos and even whit 2 friends and the boot complete full and whit more than 250K Km driven it easely overtake a car that is making 90Km/h...
What makes you think a small engine will bog down? It doesn't matter what size it is. You think a 7 liter V8 with 130hp and 250 Nm of torque would be faster than a 1.2 3 cyl with 130hp and 250 Nm of torque?
Smaller engines tend to have low torque and (in the case of naturally aspirated variants) less bhp. I will concede that there may be exceptions to the rule, but smaller engines tend to struggle with loaded cars than larger engines with more torque on tap.
Small turbo engines are heavily favoured in the NEDC, which is the static test made to determine fuel economy. The problem is that NEDC is performed _stationary_, _indoors_, at 22 C (an ideal temperature), with _all_ power consuming devices off (lights, aircon, radio etc.) and of course without any load at all.
You will _never_ achieve the NEDC rating in the real world. Yes, it's the same test that all manufacturers refer to but in reality it all comes down to how good they are at optimising their cars for the cycle. Japanese and American manufacturers have complained that their cars are rated unfairly and indeed if you look at Mazda they have decided to ditch the turbo and go for more displacement because that results in lower real life consumtion.
[04:55] Honda Civic doesn't have a Diesel engine though which makes it rather uninteresting to the Fleet market. Skoda Octavia is definately a good alternative albeit slightly more expensive but with a better resell value it's going to be the better lease option.
+Benny Kleykens They DO
3:09 - they are cool Converse, but they don't go well with the rest of his outfit. Good review though.
I hate it to controll everything with the touchscreen. You can't change the temperature "blind" and it's just totally complicated :D
how can you use a computer and have a google+ account if you think that one of the simply laid board computer is hard to use...
I don't have to use my Google+ account while driving a car :D
And why should I press 2 or 3 buttons on the touchscreen to change the temperature instead of turning a wheel to adjust it.
Don't think all that touchscreen is such a good idea in an interior. sure it looks fancy, but from a practical standpoint I guess it will dangerously distracting and hard to do while driving...
no , when you touch the screen , the air conditioned screen arrives in first , it s very easy ., after the radio screen arrives automatically . it s not dangerous . and the picture is big and clear to use it .you don t need to search everywhere when you drive . it s more easy than small buttons in the down of the dash board.
i have been surprised by the simplicity . it 's well designed .
I agree... any kind of these "multi-purpose colour TV's" in cars is more then less a bad idea and well placed control button that can be operated "blindly" by touch&feel" is better...
but I have to say that this PSA's touch screen system is one of the least complicated in terms of transparency and ease of use... practically each control is just "two presses away", graphic is big and easy to "read" and the touch screen, though not the epitome of ultra swift response, is not nearly that drastically slow as Mat likes to "wail" about... ;). in terms of "usability" it beats classic MMI "turn button" system I had in A4 hands down!
What about the Citroen C5 Estate?
it will be changed this year if i record well and the C5 Estate is a bigger segment...
It is funny how he tries to nit-pick every little things to sound like it is a bad car but how hard you try Mat you will not be able to do it: this 508 is a very good car! :D
4:40 sums up my peugeot ownership
wow~
3:09 I bet he only did that to show off his new fucking red sneakers. We get it Mat, they are red and new, congrats. But they don't go along with the rest of the clothing.
He never tests the rear seats for tall teenagers or short adults (say 6”2) and dosent test them for long distances☹️😒
one button to access AC,its so simple but not for moronic matt.
Strange? Owner reviews place this car way above, vag, and even bmw? But matt, well its not german enough
I dont like the spacesaver wheel, I'll have to fit the original in there when I have a puncture
. the car would be fine if they just gave the AC its own physical controls
Nice squats bro. LOL
They should have put a one button heat control on the steering wheel if they decided to go with the touch screen. I personally think all these touch screen things are bad ideas. Ford has similar problems with Sony touch system.
you don't need it, you are not always changing the AC or heater and the front and rear defroster still have a normal button on the dash, radio volume still a round button... lets be honest you always are looking to other places when driving, for what a read and saw the touch screen has large virtual buttons so its easy to use, only the satnav is a little crappy and slow...
Let me tell you a secret I've found after living with the 308 for a week when we tested it. The climate control screen is the one you have on the screen 99% of the time. Why? Because all other screens you can have are just menus to set up stuff. You control the radio completely from the steering wheel, and you have the touch screen for the climate control. The only time you have to go away is when you use the sat nav.
better, improved design, loads of space, it is in the details where this car lets me down.
I have nothing against touchscreen, only if climate controls were separated, and that positioning of speedo, it is quite frankly, stupid, but I love the small steering wheel...
Hot and cold all the way... but i would go to Seat dealership and buy a Leon
Mat.... if you had better shoes and buttoned shirt ends you'd look much better... as you deserve being as always good looking :p
Good car! Stupid review by some guy who worship German marque over anything else unfortunately!
Holy f****.I'm sorry but who decided to put "REAR DEFROST" button on a dash where there is practically no buttons.
Satnav was also supercrap if you see lag in 1:57.
Satnav is acc really good! Dose not lag, this man has a serious problem with Peugeot!
clickable videos (leon and octavia) dont work here.
A vid just made to bash Peugeot. I wonder if he wouldnt say it is a wonderful car if they just changed the badge as ford.
Love carwow reviews but this one is a total crap. Best European car for 2014 and u r comparing it to Octavia? Mat...get a grip.
Not the best outfit Matt..
there is always lots of space for this little tiny guy and he keeps saying there is not enough room for his small body
1:50 a profile long gone img7.autonavigator.ru/carsfoto/1440/4878/60561/Volvo_240_240%202.3%20Estate_Wagon.jpg also peugeot calling this a 308 station wagon estate
Seat Leon ST! better in every way
usually it is meant to be a family car so there are kids in the back. leg room is enough.
I think the French still don't like the English that's why they keep the Fuse box in the same spot.
Is that the reason why some English don't like French cars? They suppose French don't lik them!
Yeah that is a shame! It is more economical for the car-company but feels bad for us consumers. Luckily I live in a country where we drive on the right side in the cars...what I mean the steering wheel is on the left side! ;)
Peugeot also don't bother moving the bonnet release latch, so if you need to open it on the side of the road you need to step into traffic. Fun!
Why cant peugeot move the fuse box to the bonnet where it belongs!!
I'll never buy a british car - Cause they don't make any nowdays ah ah ah ah ah ah
It looks great, but everything else seems to be shit. Like Matt says, what are Peugeot thinking?
no mat is not objectiv , just see yourself this car , it s a good interior quality and the touch screen is well designed with a normal speed . the chassis is light , very good handling too , low consumption . peugeot has done a good job . even the price is good .
This is a case of style over substance clearly.
I hate space-saver spare wheels!
Civic Toruer will hold its value as you pay way more for it, you mentioned it's larger than before yet still moan about the space in the rear, and yet again compared to a VW and SKODA!!! **Yawn**
First comment in 4 months
I like pegeout but this car is not good