No disk and no backwards capabilities, I'm skipping Slim+Pro all together. Might as well wait few years and Sony will announce PS6 by then. Crazy prices will just push many to PC market
It's that ugly glossy plastic they've used. It makes it look like a toy. It's also shaped slightly differently so it looks weird in comparison to the original model.
I appreciate my CFI-1015 console more after seeing the Slim/Pro. It's not by all that much but I do like that the original model was even a little overbuilt, and plus the ginormous heat sink.
it would be using 300W and would have to be massive to be cool and silent, this new chip is on 4nm(a node that didn't exist comercially in 2020), the original PS5 SoC is on 7nm, also the architecture is a mix of RDNA3 and RDNA4, which also didn't exist in 2020.
From what i herd, both the original "PS5" & "PS5 PRO" would of launched the exactly same year or months apart but due to the Pandemic chip makers halted the progression & development for the PS5 Pro. I recalled that SONY engineers said something about the idea of a "PS5 PRO" was already planned during the "PS4 PRO" released.
Those who are buying the pro, have the pro controller. If $700 is a lot of money to you, then there is a slim chance you even have the tech to appreciate what it can do. $700 isn’t even 1/2 the price of a quality OLed gaming monitor that’s powerful enough to enjoy this machinery
@@ShinzoX90 cope harder. mass spamming these comments trying to trick yourself into justification lmfao. hows that dogshit performance on alan wake 2 🤣
@@oxzak9093 I need no justification. I have a high end CPU and soon will also have the pro. All the things you want, I have. All the women you wish you could get, wish they had me. Your chick would instantly ghost you, just for a chance, to get pump and dumped by me. Stay mad.
And the the biggest secret is (drumroll please) the price at $700 with no disc drive, just improve a handful of PS4 games and almost no PS5 game! What a joke!
I spent 1500 on a pc(3080+amd5800x3d) a year and a half ago and the ps5 pro just now bested it in performance, don't waste your money bro just stick to consoles unless you're rich or something. especially with the price of new pc parts costing more than 1.5-3x what a console costs these days
Even a rtx 4060 TI is better or a Radeon RX 6800 which cost $350, you add a small motherboard, a processor, ssd, a tower, a fan and you have a cheaper, more powerful, more versatile PC and above all with a much larger catalog of games! lots of videos circulating on TH-cam with PCs that cost $900 or even less that are much more powerful
Fun fact: CMOS batteries tend to last for around 10 years. And this thing has those at a quick access. Also the cooling on that thing might actually be crazy.
Anyone who has ever powered up their PC and had the BIOS demand that you insert the correct date & time would disagree with you, both that the battery did not last 10 years, and that it did not last 10 years after they replaced the battery. In the case of 1990's Apple computers a "bad" battery would not allow the Mac to power up at all. I had to replace the Date & Time battery on 6 laptops which demanded a complete strip down. I ended up scraping all 6 as it took hours to do just one. In the case of the xBox360 it did not have a battery, it set the clock through an Internet connection. If you could not connect, which is/was a common complaint, you could not have the correct time set, which could interfere with game save points, all of them having the same date & time, and therefore one could not resume from a game save point. So, if you disconnect power from your TV and reconnect the power, how is it that it sets the time, say on an LG Plasma? Obviously the technology exists. A PC battery may last if the power supply is always connected to the power outlet, but then you also run the chance of capacitors "pop-corning" or leaking. In the case of TVs, that's the Instant On ability.
Some of y’all. I get it’s not for everyone. But it’s worth it for some. Example- I wanted a ps5 in my family room. So I was getting a second one anyway. I work a job that allows me a 15% discount. I paid 650$ after tax. The actual useable storage is approximately 1.2tb more. If you equate it to a nvme drive of the same size, you could equate that to another 50$ in value. Disc drive- I understand a lot of you guys demand to have one. I usually do too. But the last couple years I’ve found myself buying far more digital games, I really only use the disc drive for movies. So, FOR ME, the extra fidelity, frame rates, and storage, made it a worthy purchase for 650. Especially because I still had the first gen release.
Hey now, can you share your discount code? Haha, I'm teasing! And yeah, I agree - if you want something that's being marketed to you, and you've got the funds, buy it, and enjoy it! You don't need to listen to what others have to say, or deal with their negativity! Hope you're enjoying that new PS5 Pro! I might just buy one for myself!
@@LegacyRap7777"LoL, jUsT sAy yOu'Re bRoKe" has to be one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. If you think you can judge people's financial stability, then we can judge your financial decisions as well. You have no right to call others "broke asf" just because they can't afford or won't spend on something incredibly overpriced
@@zerosolis6664 Hate to inform you, but there are $600/$800 dollar PCs with 4060s and 5000 series CPUs hitting high fps in COD, Helldivers, Fortnight games. What a lot of people forget is PC has broad scale to what settings you turn off and on. Also, you can pop out the that 4060 down the line and sale it towards a Radeon 8000 or Nvidia 5000 or just wait for desired performance increase since the next 60 class card will be 30-40% better.
@@zerosolis6664easy when a rx 6800($350 btw) is faster than the pro and a 5600x(stomps on the ryzen 3600 ps5 pro cpu) for $130 an extra $300 for everything else and you got a ps5 pro killer that wont be cpu limited in games like the pro is/can ACTUALLY run 120fps in more than 5 games, on top of not having to wait for ps5 pro patches(or play games stuck to ps4 settings lol) and you get free online. Sony may as well be ripping you guys off because consoles usually smoke pc in value(at least on release day) but Sonys feeling confident(more like greedy lmao real price is $830 w/ stand and drive) like in the ps3 days because xbox is doing bad. The pro should really be $600 TOPS for it to be good value like the launch ps5/xbsx were.
You wanna a controller of 240$ a extra tera of disk,more ram,some extra hardware and some extra power,all for the same price of a PS5 normal,people think companies do stuff to sell at cost price with 0 profit.
$700 is insane. $250 just for a 2gb DDR5 cell, a slightly bigger PSU and going to 4nm from 6nm. a tiny chip like this must cost at most $100, even on 4nm. Sony could be selling these for $600 with the disc drive and still be making money.
Why does anyone even care how it looks? It should be a question of how much better is it ? If it’s better at all. They could sell you an amazing looking piece of plastic that looks like it came from the 3099 but if it runs like a Nintendo switch at 30 fps it’s still not good.
@ But your not looking at it it’s just taking space . How often really are you sitting there immersed in An amazing fantasy game taking in the lore and you just stop and go ima glad this console looks amazing or I wouldn’t like this game .
Im from Belize and $1 US is equivalent to $2 Belize. So $700 US is equivalent to $1400 Belize excluding Tax. Very Expensive. When the PS5 came out a friend brought back one to sell he wanted $2400 Belize but he sold me for $1800 Belize. I will definitely pass on the PS5 Pro for now
I have a theory. COVID messed up a lot of manufacturing and Sony rushed to deliver the PS5 on time. Then finally once products came available again, they rebuilt the PS5 and added what was originally intended (hence the 8k badge on the original box)
The lay out and reason everything looks so similar is Because the PS5 slim has a binned ps5 pro chip they knew what they were doing its a smart tactic to save money and charge the consumer more money
Kudos to Sony engineers for making the battery accessible. That alone will save owners hundreds of dollars. A technician should not need to remove the CPU heat-sink to get to the battery. Doing so increases the chance of the liquid metal thermal "pad" being compromised. I'd have to look at your prior strip-down vids again to see if that indeed would have been the case, but, iirc, in one model the battery was right under a heat-sink.
No, the PS5 pro use RDNA4 GPU with harware accelerated AI upscaler. This is not a software lock. And the chip is bigger and require more power and more thermal dissipation capabilities.
it's physically a different graphics processor. it uses an updated architecture from AMD, i wouldnt be surprised if it uses frame gen, but it is a different chip
@ShiroDv it seems they could add it to the ps5. They are doing this to force crazed fanboys into spending all their pay check on the pro and not their rent for a month.
$700 for no disk drive, 1 extra tb, and a TINY MINISCULE performance boost is unacceptable when I could buy a PS5 Slim with Disk Drive, 2 extra controllers, and the newest CoD Vault Edition for the same price.
@@D0MiNATE49R I don't think you will be able to totally avoid hackers there either. Especially as it gets older, but I would recommend turning of crossplay you will only match with ps players, but if they mod they can hack too.
I ended up getting one, I haven't had a console besides a switch since the ps2 and only been on PC. Thought fuck it might as well get the better version.
In your case it isn't unreasonable, it's justifiable. Those who already own PS5s probably won't see a reason to upgrade, to trade-in their old unit and get a new upgraded unit. Oh, I'm sure there will be some, but it many not be that many. But, because it is Digital Only one has to go into it knowing that they will probably need to pay $160 a year to play games, or pay whatever price is asked when buying a Digital download game. So, do you want to pay $69.99 for the newest game, for the base game, $109 for the Deluxe, or $169.99 for the Premium Deluxe with all the DLCs, costumes, weapons, power-ups, maps, etc., game?
The best combo is PC + Switch... I just sell my PS5 after buying all of my games on Steam and plug it on my LG 65 120hz. The best move ever. NO PS+, the controller I want (Love 8bitdo) and running RDR2 4k 120fps, not a fucking PS4 version. PC = liberty.
The secret is that it is a more powerful machine. When 700 is a candy bar to you, having a better experience is worth it. Honestly if 700 is a lot of money, you should not be gaming, you should be improving yourself.
You're smoking and I want whatever it is. Go watch Digital Foundry. Only some games won't hit 60 and that is on the developers. Elden Ring is a badly optimized game and the Pro does WAY more for it than the stock PS5. going from struggling at 38-40fps on quality mode to 50+ fps and pretty much 60 at performance for ER specifically is amazing. I don't know what you think this is.
@shockle28 PC is the best? You guys are peasants who won't get games like GTA VI on Day 1. There's a reason why developers prioritize consoles. Because console players actually buy their games on day 1. Meanwhile, cheapskate PC players wait forever for steam sales while spending money on graphic cards.
A packed release schedule, content delays, and historic IP pushed console to the next level in 2023 Console will be the biggest games market sector this year after mobile. Console’s impressive +7.4% growth will far outpace mobile (+0.8%) and downloaded/boxed PC (+1.6%). Several factors are driving the growth of console gaming: 2022 was slower-than-expected for console, despite some big releases (like Elden Ring), so a portion of this year’s growth is more of a return to form. Major studios are launching new entries to successful franchises, including Zelda, Spider-Man, Mario, Forza, Starfield, Diablo, Baldur’s Gate, and Final Fantasy, after years without mainline releases. The pandemic forced the AAA games industry to delay releases even further. Have meaning when you say something.
I mean at this point your better off buying a gpu and build yourself a pc. Even save more not requiring a subscription to play online and generally PC games discount faster then console games. Its a no brainer now.
For me its better frames on games that are struggling right now. Also I hate the blurry image in some games performance mode. PRO fixes that by running quality mode in 60 fps instead of 30.
Its almost like a con. Like they dont expect any major games in years to come and so they bs people into playing released games again cuz it looks/plays "better".
@ShinzoX90 Money doesn't really matter to me, especially as a hard-core gamer. I love the newest tech and gadgets. But I fail to see the point.. I think it's a disgusting move from Sony to not include a disc drive, not have ANY older ps4 games "enhanced."
4:36 the series x is so much quieter, my launch day console is still dead silent, my 1 year old ps5 is a lot louder The Xbox design is so much functionally better than the ps5 (looks wise it depends on preferences)
Thanks for testing sound and thermal. I’ve decided to hold off my PS5 pro purchase. The noise/thermal issues from PS3 and PS4 ruined my gaming experience and don’t want to try another until Sony figures it out.
I got one of those as well. I loved the series s and very happy they made an all white series x. Traded my other xsx and ps5 slim for the pro. Paid about $100.
An interesting takeaway from this analysis is that the Series X is actually a pretty well darn designed console: quieter, lower power consumption, while keeping roughly the same temperature. Who would have thought Microsoft had nailed it this time. It's just a shame about the games though...
As a person who upgraded to an XSX from a PS4 Pro, I couldn't agree more! Unfortunately for Xbox, the previous console generation was the one where most people acquired a library of games which thanks to Backwards Compatibility, combined with diminishing returns, constitutes a major obstacle against switching platform. Sony obviously knows this, and aren't afraid exploit this advantage to the maximum... Although I think they are overplaying their hand a bit if they think they can continue with this pricing for the next console generation!
@Bigzoe202Gaming people that think like you are the reason game companies say "consumers should get used to not owning games." You know the things that are shipped out half finished and cost $70 physically and digitally. And also require us to be online all the time even if it's a single player storymode
7:30 ah the cmos battery, the most important thing of the ps3 in case sony shuts the licencensing server down for ps3 cause thanks to that battery all your digital ps3 purchases (including dlc) will keep working and if that battery dies and needs to be replaced then if Sony's licencensing server for ps3 is down then all digital purchases are unplayable as it cannot receive the correct licence to play them
@@maniaque37 you are right, a console isnt a pc thats why all these years a major selling point for a console was the lower price compared to a pc. 700$ console that, from what ive read still cant do a stable 60+plus fps experience at 4k (could be wrong here), plus 80$ Disc drive and 30$ for a a stand thats not even included too its in my opinion just dumb.
@@Scirocco27 do u realize that a rtx 4060/4070 for example could cost you that 700 ? and you need to add all the other parts to the pc like case mobo cpu ram keyboard mouse. i been reading that the comparable pc gpu for ps5 pro is a 4060. i have a pc with a 4070 and let me tell you that i dont even play in 4k because it ask too much to my pc and most hardcore gamers prefer play at 1440 resolution to achive more fps. for the comparison between pc and console , its ridiculous to me because they are different types of machines and you dont do same things with them. a console is only for gaming while a pc can be used for many other things. the experience of playing on a console is also not the same at all. a pc can have tons of configurations while a console is alot more stable because it will run all games made for the console while pc it depends on the game requirements and on the hardware you have in your pc and your configuration and setings. its not the same thing at all. i really dont understand why so many talk about buy a pc instead of a ps5 pro because it just dont make any sense to me. most people already own a pc these days also. when starfield game came out , i had a rtx 3060 and i got the game and tried play it and i could barely get at 20 fps in some parts. smetimes when new games comes out you will need to upgrade your pc just for that particular game because your pc cant run it properly. you dont have this issue on a console. i bought the rtx 4070 to get more fps in starfield and realized i still could not get much more over 30-40 fps in 4k in some parts. then i decided ill stop play in 4k because its too slow. i can now run the game at 100 fps in 1440. honestly i did not see a big difference in video quality while gaming in 1440 vs 4k but the improvement in fps is massive. i been reading that for starfield game , you need an rtx 4090 to do 4k 60 fps. i checked very fast and i saw some 4090 cards sold at 3000 dollars lol
@ i aint readin all this. if its so important for you go and buy one i dont mind, my comment was not meant to tell others to not buy, it was just my honest opinion thats its not even close to worth it. Dont forget your ps+ subscription to play online.
@@Rolly_95130-35% more GPU and 10% more CPU Performance not worth double the Price Tag and they without a doubt achieved that cause of the newer Chipset they got which without a doubt cost the same as the OG PS5 Chipset at Launch. They are scamming their Consumers heavily.
no, xbox series s basically killing xbox, as it prevents publisher for releasing game if series s can't run it. just buy the standard ps5. pro is not for everyone, the same thing likr ps4 pro, it's like 10-15% of total sales.
Sure....games like FFVII Rebirth running at full 4k and even better visuals thanks to PSSR, at a locked 60fps is "a minimal upgrade". I mean at least act like you guys are thinking with some kind of logic. All you see is the price and even THEN how tf do you expect this to not cost more?!
many complain about no disc drive but the pro has 2 tb ssd instead of 1 on the og/slim ps5 so this alone is worth the price of the drive. some complain for no reason i think. the problem is more the availability of disc drives which are hard to find right now.
Exactly. Thank you. It doesn't have those features but they can easily have done it on the base model. Current gen doesn't need an upgraded version at all they're very powerful. It's just devs haven't utilized the full potential yet. To me it's just waste of money and a cash grab. I mean why waste so much money where in 3 years PS6 will come out?
@@MikeTheGreek I think you're massively underestimating the power of PSSR, and the capabilities of it for the future. I also feel like you're overestimating the current power of the PS5 as most games are failing to hit 60 FPS at native 4K resolution. That's the whole selling point behind the Pro is that PSSR is supposed to bridge the gap for games to run at 60 FPS.
This console is objectively fugly. I don't understand the Adidas design. It's a bit pricey but that's not the main issue. The main issue is the current state of gaming. We do not own games anymore. 100% of your games are bound to a stupid PSN account. You lose this account : game over. For the sake of convenience, we've lost everything. Also, I'm bored out of my mind with 'new' games but that's a me problem. I'm out. I'm not going to play for a few years, I'm losing interest. It's the same shit over and over again.
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I am still happy with my PS5 Amateur and PC combo.
same
Thats literally the best combo in gaming right now.
You aren't alone on that I got a gaming laptop and a ps5 🗿
@@ShinzoX90 why exactly did you feel the need to comment that??
@@ericfanatic6 why did you feel the need to tag me in this comment?
Whatever you just thought, there is your answer.
700 dollars with no disc drive is diabolical.
No disk and no backwards capabilities, I'm skipping Slim+Pro all together. Might as well wait few years and Sony will announce PS6 by then. Crazy prices will just push many to PC market
700 dollars for a bunch of made up specs is even more diabolical
That's literally what makes a console a console
No disc drive *and* no vertical stand…for $700 😅
@@Verymusician193????!?!???
The slim and pro look so cheap compared to the original.
It's that ugly glossy plastic they've used. It makes it look like a toy. It's also shaped slightly differently so it looks weird in comparison to the original model.
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@@thebaldingapple2409 I heard they went with that glossy cover to save money.
Getting some stickers and deleting the piano black asap.
I appreciate my CFI-1015 console more after seeing the Slim/Pro. It's not by all that much but I do like that the original model was even a little overbuilt, and plus the ginormous heat sink.
1:35 ladies and gentlemen, Austin in fact, can read
800 to 900 bucks in Germany is just insane. It would be good for 500, like really good. The current price is unacceptable.
why is it so expensive in euorpe?? 800 to 900 euros is extremely overpriced
Our prices include taxes and we have many taxes. 19% in this case. Adding to that, console makers like to make us pay more. @xdoubt4004
@@xdoubt4004 tax. and the stand and or disc drive.
@@ChrisGrump how much is one regular pro one? With no stand and disk drive
@@xdoubt4004800 euros, about 900 dollars
This is what PS5 should look like back in 2020 but they saved the extra 4 teraflops just to call it “Pro” in 2024 😭💀
it would be using 300W and would have to be massive to be cool and silent, this new chip is on 4nm(a node that didn't exist comercially in 2020), the original PS5 SoC is on 7nm, also the architecture is a mix of RDNA3 and RDNA4, which also didn't exist in 2020.
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You do realise that some of the architecture in the GPU still hasn’t been released, even in 2024. So, how on earth can you release it in 2020 🤦
From what i herd, both the original "PS5" & "PS5 PRO" would of launched the exactly same year or months apart but due to the Pandemic chip makers halted the progression & development for the PS5 Pro. I recalled that SONY engineers said something about the idea of a "PS5 PRO" was already planned during the "PS4 PRO" released.
The Pro is almost as far from the PS5 as Series X is the Series S, it's literally only 1Tflop difference
1:36 u can read got me
Brooo, same hahaha
Ps5 should at least come with a Pro controller .
Those who are buying the pro, have the pro controller. If $700 is a lot of money to you, then there is a slim chance you even have the tech to appreciate what it can do. $700 isn’t even 1/2 the price of a quality OLed gaming monitor that’s powerful enough to enjoy this machinery
@@ShinzoX90 cope harder. mass spamming these comments trying to trick yourself into justification lmfao. hows that dogshit performance on alan wake 2 🤣
@@oxzak9093 I need no justification. I have a high end CPU and soon will also have the pro. All the things you want, I have. All the women you wish you could get, wish they had me. Your chick would instantly ghost you, just for a chance, to get pump and dumped by me.
Stay mad.
@ShinzoX90 lol someone's over compensating.. 🤏🙊
@@ShinzoX90 LGs 27 inch OLED monitor goes on sale for around $650 a lot on amazon and bestbuy. Id honestly rather buy that than a PS5 Pro
Austin: I’m reading the manual
Ken: you can read 🤣
Was the Ken quote meant to be a question?
Ps5 pro for the remaster games and remake😂
Facts. Gta 6 ps4 back compat.
Thanks for the teardown!
The GOAT!
And the the biggest secret is (drumroll please) the price at $700 with no disc drive, just improve a handful of PS4 games and almost no PS5 game! What a joke!
so Austin’s changed his glasses twice since 2017… it still feels wierd
Pro means play remastered only
People keep saying it’s $200 more. The PS5 digital was $400. This is $300 more. Ridiculous. Switching to PC at this price
I spent 1500 on a pc(3080+amd5800x3d) a year and a half ago and the ps5 pro just now bested it in performance, don't waste your money bro just stick to consoles unless you're rich or something. especially with the price of new pc parts costing more than 1.5-3x what a console costs these days
Even a rtx 4060 TI is better or a Radeon RX 6800 which cost $350, you add a small motherboard, a processor, ssd, a tower, a fan and you have a cheaper, more powerful, more versatile PC and above all with a much larger catalog of games! lots of videos circulating on TH-cam with PCs that cost $900 or even less that are much more powerful
And keep in mind, in EU it's 800$. I know people in the US don't really care but it's a big market. Sony is turning into apple unfortunately.
what if you also factor the additional 1 TB storage
@@kuyakoiaguilar77671 tb of storage cost about $50.00 and knowing Sony the probably paid only $30
I’m still pushing my PS4 Pro to the limit.
I think I just reached mines…. 😔 she did good and will forever be missed…. Time to move on I guess ):
Fun fact: CMOS batteries tend to last for around 10 years. And this thing has those at a quick access. Also the cooling on that thing might actually be crazy.
Anyone who has ever powered up their PC and had the BIOS demand that you insert the correct date & time would disagree with you, both that the battery did not last 10 years, and that it did not last 10 years after they replaced the battery. In the case of 1990's Apple computers a "bad" battery would not allow the Mac to power up at all. I had to replace the Date & Time battery on 6 laptops which demanded a complete strip down. I ended up scraping all 6 as it took hours to do just one. In the case of the xBox360 it did not have a battery, it set the clock through an Internet connection. If you could not connect, which is/was a common complaint, you could not have the correct time set, which could interfere with game save points, all of them having the same date & time, and therefore one could not resume from a game save point. So, if you disconnect power from your TV and reconnect the power, how is it that it sets the time, say on an LG Plasma? Obviously the technology exists. A PC battery may last if the power supply is always connected to the power outlet, but then you also run the chance of capacitors "pop-corning" or leaking. In the case of TVs, that's the Instant On ability.
It uses max 250W of power overall so cooling should be relatively easy
Should being the key word. Some Intel Z690 cmos batteries were dying before they were even 1 year old so ymmv
PS5 and steam deck is all I need
Some of y’all. I get it’s not for everyone. But it’s worth it for some. Example-
I wanted a ps5 in my family room. So I was getting a second one anyway.
I work a job that allows me a 15% discount. I paid 650$ after tax.
The actual useable storage is approximately 1.2tb more. If you equate it to a nvme drive of the same size, you could equate that to another 50$ in value.
Disc drive- I understand a lot of you guys demand to have one. I usually do too. But the last couple years I’ve found myself buying far more digital games, I really only use the disc drive for movies.
So, FOR ME, the extra fidelity, frame rates, and storage, made it a worthy purchase for 650. Especially because I still had the first gen release.
Hey now, can you share your discount code? Haha, I'm teasing! And yeah, I agree - if you want something that's being marketed to you, and you've got the funds, buy it, and enjoy it! You don't need to listen to what others have to say, or deal with their negativity! Hope you're enjoying that new PS5 Pro! I might just buy one for myself!
The real Austin Og's comments in first 10 Mins Love your Content Bro 🙏🏽💯💯💯
No disk drive, no decent stand, no new games.....no thank you!!
You couldn't afford a pro brokie
No one ask your opinion either...xD
@@LegacyRap7777"LoL, jUsT sAy yOu'Re bRoKe" has to be one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. If you think you can judge people's financial stability, then we can judge your financial decisions as well. You have no right to call others "broke asf" just because they can't afford or won't spend on something incredibly overpriced
@TheEngieTF2 sit down brokie
@@TheEngieTF2how cute, a brokie defending a fellow brokie
The secret is, it's a WASTE of money.
When you have money, a 1% increase in performance is worth the asking price on a product you enjoy.
@@ShinzoX90 No it isn't...And anyone who has money would know this....Which is the reason why they have money....Good decisions.
PS5 Pro with disc drive installed is like someone is pregnant
It's pregnant with my PS6
700 for a PS5 Pro & yet F1 STILL has quality and performance modes
They never said games won't still have modes. They said "it will be easier than ever to choose"
Use your head at LEAST a little. You get F1 running at a locked 120fps. Wtf. Go find me a $700 pc that can even close to match this thing
@@zerosolis6664 Hate to inform you, but there are $600/$800 dollar PCs with 4060s and 5000 series CPUs hitting high fps in COD, Helldivers, Fortnight games. What a lot of people forget is PC has broad scale to what settings you turn off and on. Also, you can pop out the that 4060 down the line and sale it towards a Radeon 8000 or Nvidia 5000 or just wait for desired performance increase since the next 60 class card will be 30-40% better.
@@zerosolis6664easy when a rx 6800($350 btw) is faster than the pro and a 5600x(stomps on the ryzen 3600 ps5 pro cpu) for $130 an extra $300 for everything else and you got a ps5 pro killer that wont be cpu limited in games like the pro is/can ACTUALLY run 120fps in more than 5 games, on top of not having to wait for ps5 pro patches(or play games stuck to ps4 settings lol) and you get free online. Sony may as well be ripping you guys off because consoles usually smoke pc in value(at least on release day) but Sonys feeling confident(more like greedy lmao real price is $830 w/ stand and drive) like in the ps3 days because xbox is doing bad. The pro should really be $600 TOPS for it to be good value like the launch ps5/xbsx were.
For the pro model Sony should have included the dual sense edge controller they literally are Apple with the pro making and expensive price
You wanna a controller of 240$ a extra tera of disk,more ram,some extra hardware and some extra power,all for the same price of a PS5 normal,people think companies do stuff to sell at cost price with 0 profit.
@@XNeohaggenX The controller costs nowhere near $240 to make
@@mitsuhhprobably costs 20 quid to make lol
and a lubricant...
@@sergeesteves my 25 pound 8bitdo performs better than dualsense edge in my opinion anyway , no way that controller should be 200
$700 is insane.
$250 just for a 2gb DDR5 cell, a slightly bigger PSU and going to 4nm from 6nm.
a tiny chip like this must cost at most $100, even on 4nm.
Sony could be selling these for $600 with the disc drive and still be making money.
this guy is really fit to cast the riddler
Or pennywise
the ps5 pro ain’t even look ‘pro’ at least the ps4 pro looked like a beefed up ps4.
It's got 3 stripes on the side, that's as much pro as sony will get 🤣
@@CheesyX2 I was about the say the same thing 😂
Why does anyone even care how it looks? It should be a question of how much better is it ? If it’s better at all. They could sell you an amazing looking piece of plastic that looks like it came from the 3099 but if it runs like a Nintendo switch at 30 fps it’s still not good.
@ But your not looking at it it’s just taking space . How often really are you sitting there immersed in An amazing fantasy game taking in the lore and you just stop and go ima glad this console looks amazing or I wouldn’t like this game .
Do you not see the race stripes, clearly beefy
1:36 You can read?
Ken 2024
😂😂
In South Africa, it cost the equivalent of $1110 . Soo not worth it. It ridiculous how we get ripped off here and they get away with it...
In south africa you don't have power all the time, so everything pluged to the grid is useless.
I am from South Africa too
Im from Belize and $1 US is equivalent to $2 Belize. So $700 US is equivalent to $1400 Belize excluding Tax. Very Expensive. When the PS5 came out a friend brought back one to sell he wanted $2400 Belize but he sold me for $1800 Belize. I will definitely pass on the PS5 Pro for now
@granthampson5917 Yep. In Europe 800 Euro, so 860 USD. I'm getting so fed up with Sony's antics
poor countries can't afford it
I still prefer my old Ps4 with an SSD installed. Good enough for me. Costed me a while 90$ for everything
A homeless man enjoys his tent and can of beans, but I’m not going to ask his thoughts on fine wine.
@@ShinzoX90 holy crap what a burn.
@@ShinzoX90alright I'll give you that one 😂
@@ShinzoX90 Wow, that's just evil.
I have a theory. COVID messed up a lot of manufacturing and Sony rushed to deliver the PS5 on time. Then finally once products came available again, they rebuilt the PS5 and added what was originally intended (hence the 8k badge on the original box)
700$ just for a new design im good
not just a design it has hardware improvements lol
Been waiting on that A.E. PS5 PRO vid and here we are!!!!!🚨🚨🚨💯
The lay out and reason everything looks so similar is Because the PS5 slim has a binned ps5 pro chip they knew what they were doing its a smart tactic to save money and charge the consumer more money
Gaming PC is where it's at 😊
Pro louder than Slim???? 😮 wtf 🤦♂️
I hate my Slim humming noise, I even image how that Pro could be annoying 🤦♂️🤷♂️
I think you maybe experiencing coil wine does it get worse when you play higher fps games?
@@Andre217 no, it starting humming instantly when I launch any game, even in a game menu. That humming since I bought it 🤷♂
Ohhhh yeah i was waiting for Austin's video! ❤️🎮
A week ago I bought a Ps5 slim digital for 377e in Germany on sale. It doesn't matter if the console has flaws or not, it's worth it for the money.
Not only that, but if you do decide to get a disc drive down the line you would have spent less than the retail price for slim physical
Lol I write for PSU, was cool seeing our website pop up during the video. Thank you Austin
The liquid metal in the ps5 and pro will need attention before the cmos battery ever will.
Ummm, no.
ROOM TEMPERATURE WARM AUSTIN EVANS IS BACK WITH A NEW VIDEO🔥🔥🔥
Wow, a huge middle finger didn't come out when you opened the box? 😂
Xbox series S with game pass looking like a good value now. You can get a used Series S and 3 years of game pass
Sony telling people the current PS5 isnt good enough but here buy the upgrade
Kudos to Sony engineers for making the battery accessible. That alone will save owners hundreds of dollars. A technician should not need to remove the CPU heat-sink to get to the battery. Doing so increases the chance of the liquid metal thermal "pad" being compromised. I'd have to look at your prior strip-down vids again to see if that indeed would have been the case, but, iirc, in one model the battery was right under a heat-sink.
Not worth it at $700...
Very worth it
Not worth it FOR YOU lol.
I buy everything and it's not worth a 1000 canadian with a disc drive and stand.... total crazy...
Cry bout it lol.
@@borderlandsdude3543 Think you meant without a disc drive and stand not with.
Ken with the "you can read?!" 🤣😂
700 dollars and it doesn't have a disc drive. That's a statement, and my decision is to not buy it.
If $700 is a lot of money to you, you shouldn’t be spending time playing video games to begin with.
Can't you just buy a disk enclosure for an extra 20 bucks?
£700 in the UK which is $902
Most are buying digital now, that's why there's no disc drive, I bought digital but going back to physical cause we're only buying a license
Then don’t buy it. Not like it’s hurting Sonys pockets.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these to repair 😁😁 Great video Austin!
In Sweden it's 967 USD disc drive not included ofcourse
Yeah, 10490 SEK... Sony didn't even attempt to make the price seem a bit less egregious by making it 9999 SEK!!!
I think they just enabled frame generation only on ps5 pro, like the ps5 slim also has the same spec, but it's sofware locked
I wonder is there someone out there flashing PS5Pro firmware to a PS5Basic/Slim
No, the PS5 pro use RDNA4 GPU with harware accelerated AI upscaler. This is not a software lock. And the chip is bigger and require more power and more thermal dissipation capabilities.
it's physically a different graphics processor. it uses an updated architecture from AMD, i wouldnt be surprised if it uses frame gen, but it is a different chip
@ShiroDv it seems they could add it to the ps5. They are doing this to force crazed fanboys into spending all their pay check on the pro and not their rent for a month.
The Slim does not have the same specs as the pro lmao
$700 for no disk drive, 1 extra tb, and a TINY MINISCULE performance boost is unacceptable when I could buy a PS5 Slim with Disk Drive, 2 extra controllers, and the newest CoD Vault Edition for the same price.
I am so impressed by Xbox series x power efficiency and sound
@SvenPilecki it's cheaper than the base sx unlike the ps5 pro
Same. I have the pro ordered, but I appreciate my xsx very much
Im getting this over a PC just to avoid playing against hackers in BOPS 6.
Do you have a 120hz monitor at all? BO6 is gonna look great AND run at 120fps on the pro. Enjoy
@zerosolis6664 yup 165hz I believe
@@D0MiNATE49R I don't think you will be able to totally avoid hackers there either. Especially as it gets older, but I would recommend turning of crossplay you will only match with ps players, but if they mod they can hack too.
I ended up getting one, I haven't had a console besides a switch since the ps2 and only been on PC. Thought fuck it might as well get the better version.
In your case it isn't unreasonable, it's justifiable. Those who already own PS5s probably won't see a reason to upgrade, to trade-in their old unit and get a new upgraded unit. Oh, I'm sure there will be some, but it many not be that many. But, because it is Digital Only one has to go into it knowing that they will probably need to pay $160 a year to play games, or pay whatever price is asked when buying a Digital download game. So, do you want to pay $69.99 for the newest game, for the base game, $109 for the Deluxe, or $169.99 for the Premium Deluxe with all the DLCs, costumes, weapons, power-ups, maps, etc., game?
Welcome back to the playstation nation👍👍👍👍👍
Who the hell designed ps5 pro? A drunk Randy Marsh?
Most definitely
The best combo is PC + Switch... I just sell my PS5 after buying all of my games on Steam and plug it on my LG 65 120hz. The best move ever. NO PS+, the controller I want (Love 8bitdo) and running RDR2 4k 120fps, not a fucking PS4 version. PC = liberty.
what gpu do you have
Real
@@giselle319 RTX 4070 Super
The no disc drive is the equivalent of not getting a headphone jack in the iPhone 7
2 tb instead of 1 already covers the price of a disc drive
Whats the secret? Its a cash grab and still cant hit 60fps
The secret is that it is a more powerful machine. When 700 is a candy bar to you, having a better experience is worth it.
Honestly if 700 is a lot of money, you should not be gaming, you should be improving yourself.
You're smoking and I want whatever it is. Go watch Digital Foundry. Only some games won't hit 60 and that is on the developers. Elden Ring is a badly optimized game and the Pro does WAY more for it than the stock PS5. going from struggling at 38-40fps on quality mode to 50+ fps and pretty much 60 at performance for ER specifically is amazing. I don't know what you think this is.
Cope better bro FR, it's the best place to play on console, and PC is best everywhere else... not sure why Xbox still exists but oh well
@shockle28 No, the best place to play is pc as we can play playstation and xbox games there, they look and run better.
@shockle28 PC is the best? You guys are peasants who won't get games like GTA VI on Day 1.
There's a reason why developers prioritize consoles. Because console players actually buy their games on day 1.
Meanwhile, cheapskate PC players wait forever for steam sales while spending money on graphic cards.
Super hyped about the launch, now I can go get a normal PS5 disk edition on a discount :D
$700 no disc drive and no games worth playing dang
its $1300 here in australia
No games to play? I guess 7 good games is 0 good games now.
loads of games worthing playing 😂
You don't need a disc if you don't have games.
@@danburdekin true.
The Legend of Austin : King of the Teardown
Biggest scam in console history! This console is straight garbage.
All consoles have been garbage since 2014+
@@FlamespeedyAMV false! It's consoles pushing the industry! These big gaming articles, award shows, commercials etc etc because of consoles.
A packed release schedule, content delays, and historic IP pushed console to the next level in 2023
Console will be the biggest games market sector this year after mobile. Console’s impressive +7.4% growth will far outpace mobile (+0.8%) and downloaded/boxed PC (+1.6%).
Several factors are driving the growth of console gaming:
2022 was slower-than-expected for console, despite some big releases (like Elden Ring), so a portion of this year’s growth is more of a return to form.
Major studios are launching new entries to successful franchises, including Zelda, Spider-Man, Mario, Forza, Starfield, Diablo, Baldur’s Gate, and Final Fantasy, after years without mainline releases.
The pandemic forced the AAA games industry to delay releases even further. Have meaning when you say something.
I mean at this point your better off buying a gpu and build yourself a pc. Even save more not requiring a subscription to play online and generally PC games discount faster then console games. Its a no brainer now.
Exactly.
This looks a ps5 overclocked for more performance, nothing new, such a waste of money
So they release 10disc drives and then 184737822 consoles . Very balanced well done
Then compare disc vs digital sales and digital wins… no shit
The only difference I see is the 700$
@@marwanal-yamany1563 860 usd for us Europeans
and no disc drive
buy yourself some glasses maybe
Definitely not buying it, rather stick to my original PS5 and PC with RTX 3080.
At this point just buy a PC, PS5 PRO not worth the 700-800$ price.
Sony is just milking fanboys with this.
i have a pc my pro is arriving tomorrow
It’s a dead industry, no money anymore.
@@wolfdeathseal5624u want a cookie champ?
Pc ain’t gunna be as good as this for same price
@@wolfdeathseal5624Offcourse your pro is coming tomorrow when it releases Friday
What's the point of a ps5 pro? Serious question. 80% of games aren't optimised for the base Ps5 yet, so.. i mean.. i really don't get it?
For me its better frames on games that are struggling right now. Also I hate the blurry image in some games performance mode. PRO fixes that by running quality mode in 60 fps instead of 30.
@fallb0rn For a few games, I guess, yes. But I want to play ALL games at least 1440p@60. Also, older games like AC black flags, etc.
When money doesn’t matter to you, getting a 5% increased experience from a product you use, is better than not having it.
Its almost like a con.
Like they dont expect any major games in years to come and so they bs people into playing released games again cuz it looks/plays "better".
@ShinzoX90 Money doesn't really matter to me, especially as a hard-core gamer. I love the newest tech and gadgets. But I fail to see the point.. I think it's a disgusting move from Sony to not include a disc drive, not have ANY older ps4 games "enhanced."
I guarantee you that PS4 image enhancement would be able to run on the base PS5 without issue.
4:36 the series x is so much quieter, my launch day console is still dead silent, my 1 year old ps5 is a lot louder
The Xbox design is so much functionally better than the ps5 (looks wise it depends on preferences)
Thanks for testing sound and thermal. I’ve decided to hold off my PS5 pro purchase. The noise/thermal issues from PS3 and PS4 ruined my gaming experience and don’t want to try another until Sony figures it out.
Just got the Series X in all white it’s clean as hell in person
I got one of those as well. I loved the series s and very happy they made an all white series x. Traded my other xsx and ps5 slim for the pro. Paid about $100.
Well done on buying an irrelevant console!!! There has never been a generation that Sony haven’t won
Xbox series X digital $ 700 compared to PS 5 pro Digital $ 1200 in Australia lol
@@LordBonesaw I have had both they are the same lol
@@LordBonesaw pretty sure its widely accepted that Xbox 360 absolutely dominated that generation
GIVE ME SOME THERMAL PASTE , I NEED TO INSTALL THE HEAT SINK LMAO
0:23 not to mention they got rid of the 8K and placed 4K 120 🤣🤣
There was 4k 120 already. They’ve just got rid of 8k label
An interesting takeaway from this analysis is that the Series X is actually a pretty well darn designed console: quieter, lower power consumption, while keeping roughly the same temperature. Who would have thought Microsoft had nailed it this time. It's just a shame about the games though...
As a person who upgraded to an XSX from a PS4 Pro, I couldn't agree more! Unfortunately for Xbox, the previous console generation was the one where most people acquired a library of games which thanks to Backwards Compatibility, combined with diminishing returns, constitutes a major obstacle against switching platform. Sony obviously knows this, and aren't afraid exploit this advantage to the maximum... Although I think they are overplaying their hand a bit if they think they can continue with this pricing for the next console generation!
this is the guy who hyped up the $600 xbox that has no performance upgrades lol
That part 🎯
True, but at least the $600 Xbox Series X still has the disc drive 📀, plus the same larger 2TB of storage (and even a limited edition paint/finish)
@@Keither754 I'll rather take a performance upgrade than something so useless as a disc drive.
@Bigzoe202Gaming people that think like you are the reason game companies say "consumers should get used to not owning games." You know the things that are shipped out half finished and cost $70 physically and digitally. And also require us to be online all the time even if it's a single player storymode
There is performance mode even in Xbox Series S, so what are you talking about?
Amateurs talking about things they dont understand anything about
Dude I love your channel because you always do the "real" unboxing. which is super awesome. thank you for this marvelous video.
Ps5 pro more like, ps5 no
hahahahah... no.
7:30 ah the cmos battery, the most important thing of the ps3 in case sony shuts the licencensing server down for ps3 cause thanks to that battery all your digital ps3 purchases (including dlc) will keep working and if that battery dies and needs to be replaced then if Sony's licencensing server for ps3 is down then all digital purchases are unplayable as it cannot receive the correct licence to play them
for 700$ plus aditional discdrive for 80$ id rather upgrade my pc tbh
Hell or even a decent laptop for that much
2 tb instead of 1 already covers the price of a disc drive. a pc is not a console.
@@maniaque37 you are right, a console isnt a pc thats why all these years a major selling point for a console was the lower price compared to a pc.
700$ console that, from what ive read still cant do a stable 60+plus fps experience at 4k (could be wrong here), plus 80$ Disc drive and 30$ for a a stand thats not even included too its in my opinion just dumb.
@@Scirocco27 do u realize that a rtx 4060/4070 for example could cost you that 700 ? and you need to add all the other parts to the pc like case mobo cpu ram keyboard mouse. i been reading that the comparable pc gpu for ps5 pro is a 4060. i have a pc with a 4070 and let me tell you that i dont even play in 4k because it ask too much to my pc and most hardcore gamers prefer play at 1440 resolution to achive more fps. for the comparison between pc and console , its ridiculous to me because they are different types of machines and you dont do same things with them. a console is only for gaming while a pc can be used for many other things. the experience of playing on a console is also not the same at all. a pc can have tons of configurations while a console is alot more stable because it will run all games made for the console while pc it depends on the game requirements and on the hardware you have in your pc and your configuration and setings. its not the same thing at all. i really dont understand why so many talk about buy a pc instead of a ps5 pro because it just dont make any sense to me. most people already own a pc these days also. when starfield game came out , i had a rtx 3060 and i got the game and tried play it and i could barely get at 20 fps in some parts. smetimes when new games comes out you will need to upgrade your pc just for that particular game because your pc cant run it properly. you dont have this issue on a console. i bought the rtx 4070 to get more fps in starfield and realized i still could not get much more over 30-40 fps in 4k in some parts. then i decided ill stop play in 4k because its too slow. i can now run the game at 100 fps in 1440. honestly i did not see a big difference in video quality while gaming in 1440 vs 4k but the improvement in fps is massive. i been reading that for starfield game , you need an rtx 4090 to do 4k 60 fps. i checked very fast and i saw some 4090 cards sold at 3000 dollars lol
@ i aint readin all this.
if its so important for you go and buy one i dont mind, my comment was not meant to tell others to not buy, it was just my honest opinion thats its not even close to worth it.
Dont forget your ps+ subscription to play online.
12:56 mm² not m². Totally different.
30 percent performance increase ain't worth it, I'd rather Sony made a Series S type console for the masses.
30% allegedly, i feel like its even less
@@Rolly_95130-35% more GPU and 10% more CPU Performance not worth double the Price Tag and they without a doubt achieved that cause of the newer Chipset they got which without a doubt cost the same as the OG PS5 Chipset at Launch. They are scamming their Consumers heavily.
Austin Evan’s with series x revision! 6nm wow wow wow wow.
Ps5 pro. I think it’s 5nm. Not impressed.
It’s actually 4nm.
no, xbox series s basically killing xbox, as it prevents publisher for releasing game if series s can't run it. just buy the standard ps5. pro is not for everyone, the same thing likr ps4 pro, it's like 10-15% of total sales.
Sure....games like FFVII Rebirth running at full 4k and even better visuals thanks to PSSR, at a locked 60fps is "a minimal upgrade". I mean at least act like you guys are thinking with some kind of logic. All you see is the price and even THEN how tf do you expect this to not cost more?!
many complain about no disc drive but the pro has 2 tb ssd instead of 1 on the og/slim ps5 so this alone is worth the price of the drive. some complain for no reason i think. the problem is more the availability of disc drives which are hard to find right now.
external NVME are CHEAP - you can add 2tb for less than the drive costs. 700 without a drive is out of line
@@t4nk3d402 1 tb in canada is over 100 for a good brand its the same price that the disc drive. i dont talk of a cheap ssd brand.
PS5 is a $700 joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The biggest scam in the gaming console History. 700$ without CD reader, without stand. Without edge controllers. Greedy companies.
Fun fact the original ps5 is the true pro model
Exactly. Thank you. It doesn't have those features but they can easily have done it on the base model. Current gen doesn't need an upgraded version at all they're very powerful. It's just devs haven't utilized the full potential yet. To me it's just waste of money and a cash grab. I mean why waste so much money where in 3 years PS6 will come out?
@@MikeTheGreekcope 😂😂😂😂😂
@@MikeTheGreek I think you're massively underestimating the power of PSSR, and the capabilities of it for the future. I also feel like you're overestimating the current power of the PS5 as most games are failing to hit 60 FPS at native 4K resolution. That's the whole selling point behind the Pro is that PSSR is supposed to bridge the gap for games to run at 60 FPS.
@@faintsignalx*120hz
i always enjoy your videos man
Digital Foundry just took their Pro Review off public view, I wonder why when Evan is doing so 🤔
This console is objectively fugly. I don't understand the Adidas design. It's a bit pricey but that's not the main issue. The main issue is the current state of gaming. We do not own games anymore. 100% of your games are bound to a stupid PSN account. You lose this account : game over. For the sake of convenience, we've lost everything. Also, I'm bored out of my mind with 'new' games but that's a me problem. I'm out. I'm not going to play for a few years, I'm losing interest. It's the same shit over and over again.
Is the secret that for 700usd it sucks?
Convince yourself it’s not superior if that helps you sleep.
@ not superior? To what? It’s a rip off duder. Come On Man… shimershanna
I dunno about the new glasses, my guy. I'm here for the tech. But got damn.
Series X is The BEST console ever
700 dollars for no disc drive, no Dualsense edge controller, and only 1 controller, wow Sony. What the hell is this shit? 😃
It’s a superior product designed for people who don’t think $700 is a lot of money. You aren’t the target audience.
It's a money grab for the suckers--er--faithful PS5 Sony fan boys. The rest of us know not to waste our money on this.
Damn bro I traded in my ps5 and an old series s and paid 190 for a ps5 pro I'm such a sucker
2:10 Wow really ? You need a PS5 Pro for that ?
Even on the Xbox Series S you can run normally capped at 30fps Xbox One Games at 60fps or even 120.
Yea, with shitty 520p resolution :-)
This is exactly what I've been waiting on your channel. sheshhhhhhh teardown the ps5 pro by the i am from philiphines...
It feels like if Apple came out with a console.