Can evolution explain morality? | Steven Pinker & David Skeel at Harvard
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- Steven Pinker (Harvard) and David Skeel (UPenn) discuss if evolutionary altruism serves as a strong basis for morality. | Harvard University, 2015 | View full forum at • The End of Violence | ... | Explore more at www.veritas.org
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What a great taster to a fascinating discussion.
How can a learned, serious person like Pinker degrade himself by talking to a charlatan mystic like this guy?
I've never heard any Christian talk about "The Book of Nature".
That's the most awkward concession I've ever heard.
It’s a fact that aristocracy has been the leading hierarchy for humans.
Every turn of development has favoured those who were selfish and unruly in their pursuit of materialism. Anyone who thinks the USA or the west is kind to the poor or needy is completely blind to how things actually work.
Those who blame the rich and wealthy for the way things are .. are also ignoring what they could do as individuals to help those in need. Standing by the side and waiting for someone else to solve the problem of someone in need is a typical materialists response to the situation … that person needs help but not at my expense and is not in line with Christian morals where the perfect Christian response would be to ask how can I help.
The reality is most are not able to live their lives to the perfect morality of Christianity … even Christian’s find it difficult to put others needs above their own.
5:05 yeah and the Stoics beat him by a few hundred years.
God is infinite.
Maintaining purity is bad ? Then what Made him come clean and dressed very good to this event. Contradict I say☝🏿
It certainly can be. Maintining a clean (pure) room you might say is good. Maintaining racial purity in your family, community or country, is not. Ideological purity in your family, community or country is not good either. And finally, purity in terms seeking only hedonistically pleasurable things in life, without any bad to balance it out, is also bad.
The only base for morality is perfection, why? Because perfection is to only thing that grant that if you achieve it we will be 100% morally right. But since perfection doesn't exist in the physical world. That points to a metaphysical origin of morality . Any other base you propose for morality will not be sufficient
And that is why I reject the notion of perfection, and even necessity as existing at all. While you see it as the proof of something, I see it as the exact opposite. I reject the need for a base at all. It's not desirable. I think it's a bias that everything has to have the final explanation. And we will force an explanation like a square peg through a round hole even if we don't have an explanation that fits, like the one you just gave.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter ok so all you have is a baseless morality or no morality at all. One thing you cannot claim is that your position is more rational than mine. Because even those that claim morality is subject have some sort of base for morality. And certainly you cannot claim I am wrong, after all, you have nothing to base your claim on. Yet you felt compel to write a response to my comment why? Something tells me you don't reject all bases, if so why morality has no base and other ideas have? I claim that nobody is a subjectivist. a true subjectivist would be totally inert not reacting to anything because everything would be just another subjective perspective amongst other. A subjectivist that defend subjectivism is not a subjectivist! He is just blind to what subjectivism really entails.
For morality to be a evolutionary product there would have to be a gene for it. What gene codes for morality?
Why is Steven Pinker on the same stage as this snake-oil salesman...
Jees which ivy league university do you teach at??
@@trex1448 you realise teaching at an Ivy League university is no longer a badge of honour right....? The American education system is Malignant
Yes, evolution explain morality 100% explains morality while religion's explanation is irrational.
Yes, I, too, help homeless people and try to make the world a better place because I'm in a struggle to pass on my genetic material. This is a sound explanation for morality that makes sense.
@@kagakai7729 nonsense and a total ignorance about how nature works.
@@MusingsFromTheJohn00 And why would nature compel me to be kind, compassionate, and self-sacrificing? I kind of feel like exploiting others and taking advantage of the down-trodden to further myself. What's going to stop me? Evolution?
@@kagakai7729 First of all, you are an extremely complex organism that is the leading edge of intelligent evolving life on Earth. Understanding all of it in true depth will take at least a good 4 years of full time study.
But, it is not that hard to understand by looking at a very high level of human intelligent social interactions.
Do you like being exploited? Do you like having more powerful people take advantage of you against your will in ways which are harmful to you?
@@MusingsFromTheJohn00 Does a gazelle like being ripped to shreds by a Lion? Would you say cows are thrilled at the prospect of becoming hamburger meat? "Me no likey" has never been a compelling argument for anyone to not do anything in this natural realm. Why should it be reason for me?
Why can't I treat poor people like a hamburger manufacturer treats cows? Seems roughly the same, am I right?
Morality is inate and therefore intrinsic and God given.
Why did all mankind think slavery was moral at some point in history? Do you see how some, even today, think it was moral to stab a writer in the neck ten times. Morality is clearly not innate.
Sure, Moses, on the banks of the Red Sea, shows us why the guilty shouldn’t be in power.
Almost all religions aspire more to the displayed power of the guilty, unrepentant. (Moses) than to inclusions, and forgiveness of perfection and innocence. (Jesus)
Morality is evolved as much as we are. It’s why we see similar moral codes in other social species like our own.
@@ItsSVO Where did the initial moral code in the human species come from?
@@jayfeliciano299 it evolved with us from before we were Human and updated as our intelligence grew. Many other social species have a moral code and they didn’t get it from god either.