Steven Pinker - The Genius of Charles Darwin: The Uncut Interviews
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- Richard Dawkins interviews Steven Pinker for "The Genius of Charles Darwin", the Channel 4 UK TV program which won British Broadcasting Awards' "Best Documentary Series" of 2008. Buy the full 3-DVD set of uncut interviews, over 18 hours, in the RichardDawkins.net store: richarddawkins.net/store/index...
This footage was shot with the intention of editing for a television program. What you see here is the full extended interview, which includes a lot of rough camera transitions that were edited out of the final program (along with a lot of content). - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Dear god gentlemen, have a seat. This is not a standing length discussion.
They're animals , we animals aren't meant to sit in case you didn't know.
+Bill Hampton meant? teleology much??
@@billy-joes6851 Well the other apes sure do spend a lot of time sat on their arses, so I guess we must be "special apes."
@@SecretEyeSpot Teleonomy.
@@futurez12 Do they? Or are you just inferring from a limited or biased sample?
They are both intelligent people. They usually don't contradict their own statements, and when they don't know something, they admit, they don't know it. Real intellectuals.
You nailed it. In a world full of BS, how refreshing is an honest, intellectual conversation? Notice how this does not in any way feel like the "old boys club" that is still alive with certain other male intellectuals who are obviously not as progressed as these two.
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Steven Pinker is very possibly an actual genius. I own all of his books but I never really appreciated just how stupid smart the guy is until I watched this hour-length interview.
Jesus.
I've liked both of these authors for a while now and very much enjoyed watching them share ideas. Keep it coming, you two.
Steven Pinker is my intellectual hero.
Watch Jacque Fresco's speaks and his project"the venus project".
This is the most fascinating conversation that I’ve ever listened to in my life.
Pass it on!
Thumbs up if you'd love to have Richard Dawkins as your biology teacher.
I just want to have a glass of scotch and a long talk. But I am an old man.
Read his books and he will be ;)
Mikael Falk
I have his "God Delusion" and "The Greatest Show On Earth". Yeah, but I'm talking about a brick and mortar school, sitting in an actual classroom with him physically present as a teacher. That would be so awesome.
Colin12475 Oh well, physical schools are a thing of the past anyway, Khanacademy and the likes are the future! Btw I would recommend the selfish gene, I thought it was his best book, although that might be because I read that one first and there was so much repititions in the later ones.
You can read his books. I love having his knowledge in my kindle!
Fascinating discussion but i kept wondering how these two geniuses produce such wonderfully clear and exquisitely crafted sentences while standing for more than an hour at a spot.
It is healthier than sitting in one spot for an hour if you move a little.
Life training since childhood and adolescence. Same thing as learning to play the violin or tennis, or training the voice for opera, or becoming a painter, or a ballet dancer, for instance. No mystery really. Practice, practice, with emotional drive and perseverance, and good tutors from the beginning.
I could listen to Steve talk all day, he's incredibly knowledgeable, his voice and manner is friendly, non-threatening, he's not arrogant or egotistical. I almost want to set it as a ring tone haha. A very enjoyable video...thank you for posting. ;-)
He doesn't project his maleness on anyone. Same for Dawkins.
It's a command voice that is against common belief ie a subtle command ..!!
@@Vlasko60 I know this comment is 3 years old, but still... Yes, indeed. Pinker has an astonishingly beautiful way of talking, very nice and soothing voice and extremely calm speaking manner. He's amazing to listen to. Actually, I can say the exact same for David Berlinski... The only sad thing is that Berlinski is a stupid, shallow thinker.
Yes, he is an absolute delight to listen to. So intelligent and articulate but also calming
@@arcticwolf6402 Astonishing? You're a fey drama queen.
It's refreshing to listen to Dawkins talk to another smart person!
Can you tell me who he talked to that wasn’t a smart person?
Deepak Chopra
Yes, Pinker and Richard do well.
@@joeylozado4190 Wendy Wright
@@joeylozado4190 Are you joking? He spends a lot of his time talking to dumb creationists and cringing at their dumbness.
If only all popular science writers could be as good as these two, then the world would be a better place.
"the brain, yes, i have it here"
Question: Where does one get a brain, and how much? I want a brain.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat First step is to make sure you know what to do with the rest of the body.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Follow the yellow brick road.
Hahaha😂🤣👍
Sooo good. Who does that 😂
A sincere thanks to Richard Dawkins and Steven Pinker for this conversation. Some sanity in a world of... well, better left unsaid.
+brigham2250 Obama.
:-)
@@loremipsum7471 you didn't see trump cuming
my brain feels high on this
Steven Pinker: The Man with Two Brains
Yes. I am grimly fascinated by that brain in the jar. Whose was it?
I love this. Dawkins isn't afraid to ponder and put himself out there on subjects he doesn't understand and he genuinely asks questions and Pinker is so smart but he isn't the expert on actual animal evolution like Dawkins. This was such a great complimentary conversation. My heart leaps and loves the intellectual exchange. What if you threw Aron Ra into the mix oh and a little wine :D
+John Morris This is from 2009. The curious is that Dawkins talks about the psychological, etc.
I have been researching the brain for 30 years. What I find is that the brain seems to be ever expanding, infinite.
The more we learn about it, the more we discover that there is to learn. As is there is another dimension, one that science is unable to understand. Call it psychological, spiritual, etc.
The other thing that always puzzles scientists, is why Dawkins never mentions, new discoveries in evolution, that proved Darwin wrong in many areas of his theory. He was a geologist, Wallace was a biologist, but had little input in the book.
Dawkins left science 40 years ago, to write fiction novels, do debates, that most scientists consider charades, etc.
He is not updated on new research, with modern biology, genetics and DNA.
There have been 2 revisions in evolution textbooks, due to Darwin s being wrong. Soon there will be another.
Dawkins only praises Darwin.
Is it because of his atheist agenda? Selling his novels to atheists for profit?
Most scientists have no respect for him.
+carl violante thank you. I got the same feeling just from a few videos. the universe is always evolving always creating. oh the horror atheists. oh the horror.
Joe Schmoe Some fanatic atheists are insane..
And is there some sort of point in your exchange?
"Another dimension? Really? There isn't a shred of argument or intelligence in your comments. Just ad hominem bullshit.
Both of their contributions to society are immeasurable
These gentlemen are a gift. They are themselves life enhancing for others who focus on their words.
Listening to these two is such a pleasant experience.
Not everyone has a pickled brain handy in their office.... Except perhaps my boss. He carries his in his head.
😂
I feel like standing up to applaud this. One of the most fascinating conversations I’ve ever heard.
Thank you Professor Pinker and Dr. Dawkins. An interesting kaleidoscope of insight and conversation, regarding a multitude of topics to follow up and study for one's own reason of interest.
(im just making notes)
4:03 Why do we like music?
11:00 Homosexuality theories
16:45 speech
A very stimulating conversation from two very fascinating individuals. Both of these men are legends in their respective fields and have made staggering contributions to critical thought in general.
gosh..I hated when this ended..
we need more dialogue like this..
What a wonderful and fascinating conversation. I feel like I could listen to this a couple more times and pick up on significantly more.
What a beautiful conversation...
Great video and many thanks to the people uploading this! The beautiful world of letters, one can respectfully disagree with some things but so admire and look up to such figures. Thank you for making this available.
Great clip, much appreciated!
My kids (now adults) learned language shockingly quickly, easily, and quickly became adept at putting words together. It was amazing to me. I'm sure this is completely normal, but it's quite an adventure to live through it with one's kids. I can see that what these gentleman say about childhood language development seems to be true or near-true.
Don't you love how Pinker has a human brain in a glass jar on the shelf in his office? Whose was that? Some grad assistant who got on his nerves?
...From some theologian who was too open minded.
***** William Lane Craig gone missing?
***** Nah, it's to big for that..
manthasagittarius1 Pinker also has the penis of Darwin in a pickle jar which he lovingly fondles from time to time.
lorem ipsum I thought it was a present for his wife, seems I was wrong on that.
Thank you to all those responsible for this. Much appreciated.
Thank you for this Richard and Steven.
This is brilliant. Two of the most interesting authors I've ever read in conversation!Thanks so much for posting.
I wish they would sit down. It's making me uneasy hahah
Still an awesome video none-the-less!
FANTASTIC. I'm gonna watch this now. Over an hour of my two favourite people ever.
What a fascinating, even riveting conversation. Thanks for sharing!
Dawkins is such a great interviewer simply because of his curiosity. Also, in all of these interviews, he never changes his clothes. Must have been a busy day.
Where would we be if the average person had even 1/10 the grasp on reality these two have?
@Vlasko60
re "Where would we be if the average person had even 1/10 the grasp on reality these two have?" Cincinnati. ; )
Great question ✌️
Or imagine if the average person grasped reality like this just as they do. How wonderful it would be
Thank you so much for posting this. I guess not everyone watches one-hour videos on TH-cam, but this was really worth seeing and listening to. Nothing like two brilliant minds exchanging knowledge on an endlessly fascinating subject. There is so much to learn and yet to be understood in this area of research.
These two somehow make me excited about the things they talk about. They seem so passionate themselves - Steven Pinker splurges out a ton of meaningful and concrete knowledge every time he's asked and it seems like it's just off the top of his head. Great teachers!
Juat to listen to these people is just such a great joy
Pinker is awesome
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it has been over a year since i first listened to this interview and still love it! dawkins had to constantly keep up with pinker's genius
Fantastic!! What a resource!! I love Pinker. Thank you, Dawkins and youtube!!
Even more so than their intelligence, what impresses me the most in those two 40/50+ men is their ability to stand without moving nor noticeable effort for over an hour.
I am 69 and I can stand for an hour especially if I am listening to something like this while chopping vegetables for a meal.
Incredibly informative stuff. Steven Pinker is always a treat to listen to and to read.
I'm so lucky to hear 2 gentlemen discussing wonderful themes that is so important to understand i could hear them for hours 🙂🙂🙂
Thank you gentlemen 😊😊😊
Intellectually very stimulating. Thanks for letting me share in this discussion.
Simply brilliant.
This is my third time back listening to this conversation. Fabulous, thanks for posting!
Awesome 😊
Never saw this one, glad I stumbled upon it.
awesome conversation, thank you!
+Miriam Gonzalez I imagine these guys sitting around a camp fire telling fables of Big Foot, Apes and Cookie Monsters in the Lost City of Atlantis too.
+lorem ipsum that's what church is for, if you wanna talk about lies and brain washing that's the place, I would love to be sitting in a camp fire with this two.
This is illuminating. Thanks.
Satisfying listening to two great minds of our times...
For me the 2 most interesting points - a) the way we still "talk" with our hands
b) the lack of phobias to modern things
the ramifications of both of these had never struck me before.
Absolutely fascinating.
I am just in awe of these gents, their study and the understanding it has brought them and us…🙏🙏🙏
I am stimulated by this speech as much as I get stimulated by music.
Evolutionary speaking
I'm a musician, and I don't hate the theory. I just think it's worth looking at from many perspectives.
Brent McPike The rhythmic sounds of copulation can be considered music. Which do YOU think came first: human copulation, or the particular language you speak?
That's a loaded question.
Brent McPike Why should the sound of sex be considered music? What does that have to do with anything?
This says next to nothing. Pinker does exactly that, looking at the question from many perspectives, and he clarifies why one perspective is more correct than another. Nobody is even saying let's not look at this from many perspectives.
You don't become a scientist by earning a degree, you become a scientist by using the scientific method, which is accessible to everyone at any time. As long as you base your assumptions on evidence and examine them with scrutiny you are acting scientifically.
It didn't learn that much new information through this talk, but i think the 1 on 1 format is really good.
love these two...
Amazing.
Superb... Pinker nearly conducts with his hands,,,,something there!
This is so interesting. I am an ASL linguist/ interpreter. I am on a mission to read all of Pinker's books. He seems to be a great scientist (not to forget Dawkins). I love how he uses the linguistic science found in the communities of Deaf children and how they develop language. It is marvelous.
The Pinker and the Brain. Trying to take over the world
This is a great conversation; albeit an extremely awkward one-they need to sit down!
That's you're opinion, I rather enjoy these standing interviews.
Your
i was thinking the same thing! please, have a seat!
Francie Gibbs No no I insist... stand lol
Two brilliant men having a conversation! 5 stars.
Very enlightening and informative! Thank you!
I had to watch the whole thing standing up
Ha ha ha ha
Darwin is to evolution as the Wright brothers are to aviation.
Unfortunately, _some_ humans are still stuck with the Montgolfier brothers...
*_:0)_*
@@glutinousmaximus Biology has tremendously advanced in the past 40 years. Cells aren't jellylike masses of protoplasm but complex machinery.
We need more conversations like this
Agree.
Thanks so much
Is this pinkers's office or a library? Or both?
Two Bright Minds, Two Masters!!!
wonderful conversation
If you're going to discourse at length on the subject of Charles Darwin to Richard Dawkins, the selection pressure is on you to know what the heck it is you're talking about! Thank you for uploading!!
1:06:20 How can Steven not burst into laughter :D
because he is a serious person.
This is great! ...except from the camera man perspective. I'll hold this 20 lbs on my shoulder for the next 70 minutes and pan back and forth.
Let’s just stand here in the middle of the room and talk, it will look so much more natural, and the wild camera panning will make people think we’re scientifically rigorous.
Steven pinker..wow... you are something... awesome...I appreciate Richard Dawkins for the great talk..
He doesn't need to carry one around, his own is staggeringly impressive in its own right. Magnificent interview.
1:06:23 Must make gif.
Yes, please, Internet need this
hahahaha
I must remember to retell this part to a female at the dinner table among many others
its what i hear when he interviews evangelicals.
Sit down, please! >______
I think that the reason why the videos are shaky is because all of dawkins videos are merely based on intellectual conversations, it is more about the audio than the image.
One way or another this is a great interview.
There arent many times you see dawkins humbling himself and asking questions like this. He obviously has an immense amount of respect for pinker.
Intellectual human mammal communication.
Everyone who is wants to help other people must learn and apply the wisdom of Steven Pinker.
The automobile/falling analogy made me think about why humans crash in cars so often. One is that we are insulated from the speed, so we "feel" safe. The other is that many humans (mostly male) love the feeling of speed more than the feeling of safety. I heard an interesting story about Taxi drivers in a large city when the new taxis had anti-lock brakes for the first time. There were actually more accidents because drivers felt they could stop faster and so took more chances.
Please sit down for such talks; it feels forced if you're standing.
I came here to listen to such interesting info. I could care less if they were talking on a hand stand.
I don't know... I kind of like how it gives the illusion it simply being a chance encounter and casual chat.
raultejedor
I would be very impressed if they could talk about evolutionary psychology in such a nuanced way whilst hand-standing for over 1 hour without fainting.
raultejedor
It'd also be immensely entertaining
I think it is suppose to give the impression of a random chat in the library.
1:06 when Richard began panting was so funny as I didn't expect it at all...
djancak
you care that much about a 20 second margin of error?
djancak LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Fucking pseudo-intellectuals of youtube...
Moron.... my god...
djancak lol!
You truly are imbecilic...
1:06:00
Happy?
Oh no?
1:06:20
Happy?
Okay, good! now go test out your 3 neurons on some rudimentary arithmetic.
djancak Oh... My... God...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
how do you function?
djancak LOL!
Two brilliant men. Thank you.
These men stand tall as they discuss their common respect for Charles Darwin and how evolutionary biology apply to our psychology. These are academic warriors of observation and concepts that are fascinating.
why have they spent 1 hour chatting standing still?
were chairs already invented at that time?
BattousaiHBr they are sitting
No the chairs had been previously created intelligently.
I think the reason why they are standing is that it makes it easier for the cameraman to work.
Why should an adult man be unable to stand comfortably for an hour?
@@xandercorp6175 wouldn't a comfy chair be _more_ comfortable?
Of course, this not exact science, but the explanation he gives is a lot more likely than some kind of invisible spirit with a long grey beard on a cloud put it in us...
Jan Buyck What part isn't exact science? Evolution? Linguistics? Evolutionary Psychology? The topic they cover overlap into severe fields, all of which are pretty solid. Sure, evolutionary biology is a harder science than evolutionary psychology, but E. Psych is much more strong in its methodology than some ppl give it credit for...
what a gem of a conversation
The question at around 52:30 about why pain has to be painful is interesting, but surely the reason is that the sensation of pain has to be strong enough to cause sufficient rewiring of the brain (learning) so that in future whatever stimulus brought about the pain is avoided. A simple red light saying "don't do that again" couldn't be enough to cause this.
The aversion to negative stimuli long predates the emergence of consciousness, so it stands to reason that the feeling of pain is a very old and deep one, and therefore would had to have been of use before anything complicated like the neocortex came along.
What a load of rubbish. Everyone knows the Tower of Babel is why we have different languages today.
lol
Yep because he said it, it must be true
@Vox Daze You realize Professor Dawkins is an Evolutionary Biologist, right?
😂I can only hope that was irony.
This is the guy who presented on Ted Ex a monologue about how the world is getting better. He's amazing!
Simply beautiful!
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Truly fascinating conversation.
Have to commend these two on their standing conversation endurance.