Why reduce it to just one city Harappa? It was an entire stretch 2500 km x 800 km. Just like Ancient Greece or Ancient Egypt, this is the Ancient Indian civilization The major cities are: 1. Harappa 2. Mohenjo-Daro 3. Ganeriwala 4. Dholavira 5. Rakhigarhi
India is one of the oldest stone structures, like Muniyara in Marayoor, Idukki, in South India, dating back to 7000 BCE. There are also the Edakkal Caves (7000 BCE) and the Bhimbetka Rock Shelters (20000 BCE). Ashoka's Brahmi script dates back to around 300 BCE, and recent excavations in Tamil Nadu, particularly at the Keeladi site, have uncovered evidence of Tamil Brahmi script dating back to 600 BCE. The Adichanallur Tamil inscriptions are even older. All early Indian inscriptions likely trace their origins to the Vikramkhol inscription, believed to date to around 1500 BCE. This suggests a transitional period from the Indus Valley script (3300 BCE) to the development of the Indian Brahmi script. India is a civilization; Pakistan never existed before 1947. It’s India that Christopher Columbus searched for 500 years ago; it’s India that Herodotus and Megasthenes wrote about 2500 years ago. It’s India where Faxian traveled 1500 years ago. It's India that still practices Hindu rituals like the Great Bath, worships Shiva Lingas and the Mother Goddess, and reveres sacred banyan trees, just as in the Indus Valley Civilization 5000 years ago. History records South Asia as India over the last thousands of years. Pakistan has existed only for the last 76 years. We don’t refer to Greek civilization as North Macedonian civilization, do we? We still call it Greek civilization. By the way, Bhirrana is the oldest known settlement of the Indus Valley Civilization, dating back to 8000 BC, even older than Mehrgarh. In Sinauli, India, chariots were present concurrently with the Sintashta culture. Sinauli stands as one of the earliest archaeological sites in the Indian subcontinent to reveal chariots and royal burials with militaristic elements during the Ochre Coloured Pottery (OCP) and Copper Hoard culture in the Ganga-Yamuna Doab, over 4,000 years ago. Recent discoveries have dated the Sinauli chariots to 2050 BCE. An article in the Cambridge Journal last month highlighted these findings. Additionally, the Bhimbetka Rock Shelters exhibit cave paintings of horse and elephant riding, even older than the chariots. Shaktism, a tradition over 12,000 years old in India, offers further historical ties. The Baghor Shrine in the Son River Valley, Madhya Pradesh, houses a triangular stone similar to the Kali Yantra, a symbol still significant in India. The Kol and Baiga tribes, indigenous to this region, interpret the triangular shape as symbolizing the mother goddess, 'Mai.' Moreover, the rock art in Chitrakoot illustrates a mother goddess riding a lion, discovered in Chulhi, Banda, Uttar Pradesh. Notably, the Indus Valley Civilization portrays a symbol of a woman defeating a buffalo under the gaze of a mysterious horned deity, possibly hinting at the tale of Mahishasura and Durga. The depiction of Pashupatinath as a proto-Shiva figure further bolsters these associations. In Bhanpura, Madhya Pradesh, the Charbhuj-Nala rock art showcases a Swastika symbol dating back 9,000 years, preceding the Indus Valley Civilization.
Do checkout Yajnavedam's latest breakthrough on the Indus script. He has put in some fascinating insights on what the various characters of the Indus script might mean.
That "unicorn" most likely a side-view of a buffalo :) But that was indeed a good line. Definitely strengthened my attention (choked on my coffee). Jokes aside: Thank you for your work! The video is really good
@@karyntalksnonsense no its bull (bos indicus) . buffalo depiction available also as hunting or sacrifice position . indus valley trade buffalo meat with other civilizations. ( look horn depiction) both humps are totally different just search "buffalo depiction indus valley civilization"
Harappan unicorn seal is a combination of Indian cattle (speciality is its horns overlaps while seeing from a side) and harappan horse ,u can clearly distinguish both and its more commonly found seal in ivc ...it also show it standing infront of some basket like structure thats called yupa its the sign Ashwamedha yajna described in vedas where two animals were most prominent ashwa(horse) and gomruga(india cattle) along with other animals like buffaloes,tiger,rhinos,elephants etc...
Mam'm Vedic people used 17ribs asva / horse Which was never found in steppe region or Europe or central asia , vedas ( rigvedic) and vedanga ( post Vedic scriptures) all mentioned 17ribs pair horses and Aryan horse ( which was also taken seriously in nazi regime, the perfect horse thing in nazi, they breeded 17 ribs pair horses ) These horses were natively found in arabia , indian and Indonesia region Steppe people has nothing to with aryan culture It was predominantly Aryan culture,the vedas and all kinds of knowledge is all native to non indo European BMAC and indus civilization I can agree on linguistics swift That arrival of indo European may be succeed to change language ( As in RigVeda itself their was many conflict of sages who supported sapt Sindhu/ indus people Some had Enemity and did not supported Vedic kings and indra to glorified in hyms and and they all spoke same language) Famous story how vasistha gain superiority of sagehood because he accepted puru Bharat tribe and glorified them in his poetry ( which found in vedas ) While visvamitra ( who became enemy of puru Bharatas) Who mentioned commanding war against Aryans
Don’t you think the theory that the Indo-European language originated in Russia is somewhat half-baked? Recent studies suggest that the Indo-European language originated in western Iran. Genetic studies have discovered a Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers component that spread to the steppe and a similar Iranian Neolithic component (in the Zagros) that spread eastward. This component was found in Bronze Age Anatolia without steppe ancestry. The Yamnaya were roughly 1/3 CHG or Iran_Neolithic. Iran_Neolithic ancestry comprises 40-60% of all modern Indians. Don’t you think Iranian Neolithic farmers migrated toward Russia around 7,000-8,000 years ago, forming the Yamnaya culture? Perhaps these people originated from Mehrgarh or Bhirrana in the Indian subcontinent, as India and Iran were better suited for human settlement 10,000 years ago than Russia, which experienced a cold and temperate climate heavily influenced by the last Ice Age. The cow is significant in Indo-Aryan culture. The Indo-Europeans were central to the domestication of the bull/cow, the invention of the wheeled wagon, dairying practices, and milk consumption. However, the cow was domesticated in the Indus Valley Civilization over 9,000 years ago and in Anatolia separately. If one believes the steppe people domesticated the horse and then entered India, this migration never affected the genetic lineage of Indian cow breeds. Cattle genetics conclusively prove that no admixture of Taurine cattle into India has ever occurred. It seems silly to think that Indo-Aryans came to India without a single cow. If we look at Russia, the Proto-Uralic language formed around the same time as the Indo-European language in relatively close proximity without any connection between them. In the Caucasus region or near the Black Sea, there are unrelated Kartvelian languages that formed around the same time or earlier than Indo-European. Do you think the Burushaski language in northern Pakistan might be related to a pre-Proto-Indo-European language, given that haplogroup R2 is significantly present among the Burusho people? Haplogroup R2 is estimated to have emerged around 15,000 years ago, likely in the Indian subcontinent, while R1 originated in Central Asia and R itself in West and South Asia. It seems likely that the Indo-European language originated in Iran, the Indus Valley, or the BMAC culture.
The paternal haplogroup F likely originated in or near South Asia approximately 50,000-55,000 years ago and is considered a "super-haplogroup," as it is ancestral to many Y-DNA haplogroups found outside of Africa today. Both haplogroups R and H trace their roots back to haplogroup F. This lineage suggests that the ancestry of Aryans, Dravidians, and indigenous tribes in India could date back over 50,000 years.
India's ancient history parallels that of Europe. Ancient Iranian farmers created the Yamna culture, which spread to both Europe and India, mixing with local populations simultaneously. One group moved east while another went west. Europe also had pre-Indo-European languages, such as Etruscan and Basque, before the arrival of the Indo-Aryans, just as India has Dravidian languages. Like India, Europe had indigenous hunter- gatherers and the first farmers before the Indo-European migrations from West Asia or Central Asia. All three groups mixed together, as seen in India, forming civilizations
Vedic samhita and brahmanas be like we will tell about our rituals and how to do it...& then we will found mysterious seal with some kind of ritual of wild animals in ivc but archaeologist be like naah they cant be related. Here we have largest unnamed civilization in terms of area and there is one of largest literature of the world in vedic sanskrit(its not even classical sanskrit) n we r so blind to even compare one another..
I believe their methodology showed the script was related to Sanskrit and would place the Harappans as more closely related to steppe populations. I don’t believe that squares with the genetic research, but if current theories are wrong about the Harappans, they’re wrong 🤷♀️ I’ve argued for the Dravidian point of view in this video, but if Yajnadevam is correct that won’t be true (or it will be a more complicated timeline). I’ll be interested to see if it stands up to peer review!
So the western colonizers and modern day leftist historians in unison say india was colonized by aryans nd original were dravidians however both of them have been caught lying many time and you sure they weren't lying this time. Every western so called scholar says an ancient civilization in india on its own is not possible cz humans developed in africa and then migrated but we forget indian subcontinent was once part of gondwana land and if other similar animal species can be found here why not human species. Well other than yajnadevam script deciphering you also ignored sinaulli , you sure you covered everything. @karyntalksnonsense
You put archaeological, genetics and linguistic evidence in a single video which is nice. However, the claim that all Harappan moved to South India seem incorrect. According to my knowledge, most north Indians have more Harappan dna than Arya dna even among the upper castes.
@@Flying_Spaghetti_Monsterrmay be you not want to belive it but it was years back😂😂 west creat only things are invasion, colonization, sleve trading, looting and copying.....BTW london museum is the biggest proof............this is our land and we belong here for years and west has only relation with this land is they distroyed and distorted it still trying to do that......they ruined amerucan natives, Newzeland, australia, africa but only two civilization has resisted and not gave up those are china and India.....and yes today islamic civilization is ruining west itself from inside......its matter of time when we will see europe will be islamic continent😂😂😂😂
Why reduce it to just one city Harappa? It was an entire stretch 2500 km x 800 km. Just like Ancient Greece or Ancient Egypt, this is the Ancient Indian civilization
The major cities are:
1. Harappa
2. Mohenjo-Daro
3. Ganeriwala
4. Dholavira
5. Rakhigarhi
Fun fact recently their was a flood in this region and sewer system worked perfectly fine from 5000 years ago 😮
India is one of the oldest stone structures, like Muniyara in Marayoor, Idukki, in South India, dating back to 7000 BCE. There are also the Edakkal Caves (7000 BCE) and the Bhimbetka Rock Shelters (20000 BCE). Ashoka's Brahmi script dates back to around 300 BCE, and recent excavations in Tamil Nadu, particularly at the Keeladi site, have uncovered evidence of Tamil Brahmi script dating back to 600 BCE. The Adichanallur Tamil inscriptions are even older.
All early Indian inscriptions likely trace their origins to the Vikramkhol inscription, believed to date to around 1500 BCE. This suggests a transitional period from the Indus Valley script (3300 BCE) to the development of the Indian Brahmi script. India is a civilization; Pakistan never existed before 1947. It’s India that Christopher Columbus searched for 500 years ago; it’s India that Herodotus and Megasthenes wrote about 2500 years ago. It’s India where Faxian traveled 1500 years ago. It's India that still practices Hindu rituals like the Great Bath, worships Shiva Lingas and the Mother Goddess, and reveres sacred banyan trees, just as in the Indus Valley Civilization 5000 years ago.
History records South Asia as India over the last thousands of years. Pakistan has existed only for the last 76 years. We don’t refer to Greek civilization as North Macedonian civilization, do we? We still call it Greek civilization.
By the way, Bhirrana is the oldest known settlement of the Indus Valley Civilization, dating back to 8000 BC, even older than Mehrgarh. In Sinauli, India, chariots were present concurrently with the Sintashta culture. Sinauli stands as one of the earliest archaeological sites in the Indian subcontinent to reveal chariots and royal burials with militaristic elements during the Ochre Coloured Pottery (OCP) and Copper Hoard culture in the Ganga-Yamuna Doab, over 4,000 years ago. Recent discoveries have dated the Sinauli chariots to 2050 BCE. An article in the Cambridge Journal last month highlighted these findings. Additionally, the Bhimbetka Rock Shelters exhibit cave paintings of horse and elephant riding, even older than the chariots.
Shaktism, a tradition over 12,000 years old in India, offers further historical ties. The Baghor Shrine in the Son River Valley, Madhya Pradesh, houses a triangular stone similar to the Kali Yantra, a symbol still significant in India. The Kol and Baiga tribes, indigenous to this region, interpret the triangular shape as symbolizing the mother goddess, 'Mai.' Moreover, the rock art in Chitrakoot illustrates a mother goddess riding a lion, discovered in Chulhi, Banda, Uttar Pradesh.
Notably, the Indus Valley Civilization portrays a symbol of a woman defeating a buffalo under the gaze of a mysterious horned deity, possibly hinting at the tale of Mahishasura and Durga. The depiction of Pashupatinath as a proto-Shiva figure further bolsters these associations.
In Bhanpura, Madhya Pradesh, the Charbhuj-Nala rock art showcases a Swastika symbol dating back 9,000 years, preceding the Indus Valley Civilization.
Do checkout Yajnavedam's latest breakthrough on the Indus script. He has put in some fascinating insights on what the various characters of the Indus script might mean.
That "unicorn" most likely a side-view of a buffalo :)
But that was indeed a good line. Definitely strengthened my attention (choked on my coffee).
Jokes aside: Thank you for your work! The video is really good
Perhaps! Or some combination cattle based animal. So many journals referred to it as a ‘unicorn’ that I couldn’t resist 😅
@@karyntalksnonsense no its bull (bos indicus) . buffalo depiction available also as hunting or sacrifice position .
indus valley trade buffalo meat with other civilizations. ( look horn depiction) both humps are totally different
just search "buffalo depiction indus valley civilization"
This makes me think that Todas are the direct descendants of IVC people. Even genetics seem to agree.
It's not buffalo there are othwr buffalo seals
Harappan unicorn seal is a combination of Indian cattle (speciality is its horns overlaps while seeing from a side) and harappan horse ,u can clearly distinguish both and its more commonly found seal in ivc ...it also show it standing infront of some basket like structure thats called yupa its the sign Ashwamedha yajna described in vedas where two animals were most prominent ashwa(horse) and gomruga(india cattle) along with other animals like buffaloes,tiger,rhinos,elephants etc...
I am really glad YT's algorithm made me discover your channel.
Keep up the great work. :)
This was a delightfully good video. Well researched, thanks!
Please make video about archeological findings at Rakhigarhi which included chariot
Mam'm Vedic people used 17ribs asva / horse
Which was never found in steppe region or Europe or central asia
, vedas ( rigvedic) and vedanga ( post Vedic scriptures) all mentioned 17ribs pair horses and Aryan horse ( which was also taken seriously in nazi regime, the perfect horse thing in nazi, they breeded 17 ribs pair horses )
These horses were natively found in arabia , indian and Indonesia region
Steppe people has nothing to with aryan culture
It was predominantly Aryan culture,the vedas and all kinds of knowledge is all native to non indo European BMAC and indus civilization
I can agree on linguistics swift
That arrival of indo European may be succeed to change language
( As in RigVeda itself their was many conflict of sages who supported sapt Sindhu/ indus people
Some had Enemity and did not supported Vedic kings and indra to glorified in hyms and and they all spoke same language)
Famous story how vasistha gain superiority of sagehood because he accepted puru Bharat tribe and glorified them in his poetry ( which found in vedas )
While visvamitra ( who became enemy of puru Bharatas)
Who mentioned commanding war against Aryans
Don’t you think the theory that the Indo-European language originated in Russia is somewhat half-baked? Recent studies suggest that the Indo-European language originated in western Iran. Genetic studies have discovered a Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers component that spread to the steppe and a similar Iranian Neolithic component (in the Zagros) that spread eastward. This component was found in Bronze Age Anatolia without steppe ancestry.
The Yamnaya were roughly 1/3 CHG or Iran_Neolithic. Iran_Neolithic ancestry comprises 40-60% of all modern Indians. Don’t you think Iranian Neolithic farmers migrated toward Russia around 7,000-8,000 years ago, forming the Yamnaya culture? Perhaps these people originated from Mehrgarh or Bhirrana in the Indian subcontinent, as India and Iran were better suited for human settlement 10,000 years ago than Russia, which experienced a cold and temperate climate heavily influenced by the last Ice Age.
The cow is significant in Indo-Aryan culture. The Indo-Europeans were central to the domestication of the bull/cow, the invention of the wheeled wagon, dairying practices, and milk consumption. However, the cow was domesticated in the Indus Valley Civilization over 9,000 years ago and in Anatolia separately. If one believes the steppe people domesticated the horse and then entered India, this migration never affected the genetic lineage of Indian cow breeds. Cattle genetics conclusively prove that no admixture of Taurine cattle into India has ever occurred. It seems silly to think that Indo-Aryans came to India without a single cow.
If we look at Russia, the Proto-Uralic language formed around the same time as the Indo-European language in relatively close proximity without any connection between them. In the Caucasus region or near the Black Sea, there are unrelated Kartvelian languages that formed around the same time or earlier than Indo-European.
Do you think the Burushaski language in northern Pakistan might be related to a pre-Proto-Indo-European language, given that haplogroup R2 is significantly present among the Burusho people? Haplogroup R2 is estimated to have emerged around 15,000 years ago, likely in the Indian subcontinent, while R1 originated in Central Asia and R itself in West and South Asia. It seems likely that the Indo-European language originated in Iran, the Indus Valley, or the BMAC culture.
The paternal haplogroup F likely originated in or near South Asia approximately 50,000-55,000 years ago and is considered a "super-haplogroup," as it is ancestral to many Y-DNA haplogroups found outside of Africa today. Both haplogroups R and H trace their roots back to haplogroup F. This lineage suggests that the ancestry of Aryans, Dravidians, and indigenous tribes in India could date back over 50,000 years.
India's ancient history parallels that of Europe. Ancient Iranian farmers created the Yamna culture, which spread to both Europe and India, mixing with local populations simultaneously. One group moved east while another went west.
Europe also had pre-Indo-European languages, such as Etruscan and Basque, before the arrival of the Indo-Aryans, just as India has Dravidian languages. Like India, Europe had indigenous hunter- gatherers and the first farmers before the Indo-European migrations from West Asia or Central Asia. All three groups mixed together, as seen in India, forming civilizations
Vedic samhita and brahmanas be like we will tell about our rituals and how to do it...& then we will found mysterious seal with some kind of ritual of wild animals in ivc but archaeologist be like naah they cant be related. Here we have largest unnamed civilization in terms of area and there is one of largest literature of the world in vedic sanskrit(its not even classical sanskrit) n we r so blind to even compare one another..
Yajnadevam recently released his papers where he claims to have deciphered Indus Script. Do give it a read.
Have you heard about Yajnadevam and his claim of deciphering the script?
I believe their methodology showed the script was related to Sanskrit and would place the Harappans as more closely related to steppe populations. I don’t believe that squares with the genetic research, but if current theories are wrong about the Harappans, they’re wrong 🤷♀️ I’ve argued for the Dravidian point of view in this video, but if Yajnadevam is correct that won’t be true (or it will be a more complicated timeline). I’ll be interested to see if it stands up to peer review!
So the western colonizers and modern day leftist historians in unison say india was colonized by aryans nd original were dravidians however both of them have been caught lying many time and you sure they weren't lying this time.
Every western so called scholar says an ancient civilization in india on its own is not possible cz humans developed in africa and then migrated but we forget indian subcontinent was once part of gondwana land and if other similar animal species can be found here why not human species.
Well other than yajnadevam script deciphering you also ignored sinaulli , you sure you covered everything.
@karyntalksnonsense
@@karyntalksnonsense their methodology shown it's an early version brahmi
The genetic research done from our end debunk this steppe part so now whom should we trust
@@niteshmishra5597what study is that?
You put archaeological, genetics and linguistic evidence in a single video which is nice. However, the claim that all Harappan moved to South India seem incorrect. According to my knowledge, most north Indians have more Harappan dna than Arya dna even among the upper castes.
Aryan migration/invasion theory has already been disproven.
Not at all
@@Flying_Spaghetti_Monsterrmay be you not want to belive it but it was years back😂😂 west creat only things are invasion, colonization, sleve trading, looting and copying.....BTW london museum is the biggest proof............this is our land and we belong here for years and west has only relation with this land is they distroyed and distorted it still trying to do that......they ruined amerucan natives, Newzeland, australia, africa but only two civilization has resisted and not gave up those are china and India.....and yes today islamic civilization is ruining west itself from inside......its matter of time when we will see europe will be islamic continent😂😂😂😂
Why are you taking Aryan invasion theory seriously....