A Viking Movie I'd Like
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- An Old Norse specialist's brief, DOA thoughts on what he'd like to see in a Viking movie.
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Thanks very much for the shoutout, my friend! Great points. I agree: what's true historically, and what's true to the human condition. Well said!
Video on what you’d like to see in a Roman movie? 🙏
@@michaelwu7678I'd love to see that too. What would be nice to see in a film about romans or maybe even greeks? What tropes is our man Lucius tired of and what he would like to see in the future?
I share your sentiments and completely agree with your comments. I want a good story, well told, not fetishized or plastered with gimmicky tropes, and done in a way that reflects a sincere effort to honor the time and people as we understand them. As for a series or film about the Saga of the Volsungs? Yes, please!
I don't understand why they don't just use the sources that we already have and stick with the languages of the time. Stick with the sagas to give people actual history of the age not this made up Hollywood bs.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with something just for the sake of entertainment value. I think it's just important to temper that with some reality and actual history if it's something that interests you, and to take things with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of people do that anymore. lol Which is why it's so easy for misinformation to spread these days. People don't question the stuff being fed to them.
I find the Norwegiavn Netflix series Ragnarok interesting. It's a different sort of take on things.
I agree. I gave it a 6/10, which is worth watching in my opinion. This is coming from someone who doesn't watch any Marvel stuff and agrees with Jackson in this video about most films/series in general, not just viking-themed films/series.
@@chelouha yes, I totally agree. I'm glad you enjoy Ragnarok.
I'd like to see Eyrbyggja Saga as a movie. It would be extremely trippy.
What about the argument that sexuality is part of the human spirit
I'd like to see a movie (or a video game) where they actually listened to what the Norse specialist they hired said
So, not Assassin's Creed: Ragnarok? :p
You should play mount and blade viking conquest
That happens with so many films and games where an expert is hired and at the end of it they say 'please don't put my name in the credits, you haven't listened to anything I said and did what you wanted anyway, I'm only here so you can say there was an expert on set'.
Are you hiding behind that rock to protect yourself from the comments section?
It is really windy back home. I suspect he is using the rock as a wind break to keep the microphone from picking up nothing but wind noise.
It’s clearly not a rock, but the snout of a dragon holding really, really still.
Fetishized... sure. And I would say, like almost everything in modern culture, INFANTILIZED. Everything is dumbed down, engineered for short attention spans, with maximum emotional outbursts, and silly irresponsible attitudes and behaviors. It’s all so disappointing. We don’t get portrayals of adults acting in a remotely serious way except as political props or personifications of hot-button social issues. I think we no longer reward artists who represent what a real adult might look like.
Isn't that completely normal? Most of the wildly successfully operas from the 1800s seem just as infantile as the commercially-driven films of today. I think you're just looking in the wrong places
@@hugohugo8262 Maybe. I think I get his point, tho. It's probably because modern pop culture is so self absorbed that's it's rate to find something not trying to be edgy or gritty. Historical and fantasy dramas nowadays are trying too hard to be the next game of thrones.
You haven’t really paid attention to history of humanity and history of art did you? Or you are virtue signaling? Our greatest stories are based on people making infantile unreasonable decisions: “Romeo and Juliet”, Hamlet , Iliad. The whole pantheon of Greek gods. Mark Anthony and Cleopatra…. I mean list is endless
Valhalla rising
@@Cardan011 there's also the vital detail of people not living to the age of full maturity as much throughout history (and myth). Alexander the Great died when he was 32. so many of the emotional, "infantile" characters from history were just that!
1) this is funny, “well as a language nerd who doesn’t like movies…” 😂
2) I would LOVE a movie of Egil’s Saga!
Placing high stakes on the Northman. Here’s hoping it’ll pay off!
Also, c’mon let’s get this man to 200k!
Same here, first movie trailer i've seen in years that's got me real hyped
I'd be interested to hear Doc Crawford's take on it.
IF someone could get him to watch it, that is...
We are there! Jackson is at 200k now
We only have a trailer to go off of so far, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on Robert Egger's upcoming film The Northman.
Yeah a reaction video would be great but even just some basic thoughts would be great!
The northman trailer looked good, hopefully the movie will be too. It seemed to balance good quality, tone, and historical basis, but it's hard to judge just on a trailer alone.
Robert Eggers is known for putting a lot of effort into doing his research on dialects, period appropriate clothes, folklore elements of the scripts, etc. He also clearly tries to go away from that clichéd "plastic fantastic" feel that a lot of Hollywood period piece movies seem to have. With all that in mind "The Northman" looks promising.
Phenomenal director. Based on his past work it's going to be very weird, and very dark.
I kinda agree with Dr. Crawford WRT to sex in popular entertainment. It strikes me creators (HBO series pioneered this trope, but most streaming service original series have adopted it, it seems) have sort of lost sight of the forest for the trees - *relationships* are what is interesting, not the sex in and of itself - that's porn, and sure, though some can argue porn has its place in society, it's not very interesting from a story-telling perspective to me either. Most of the time, you could replace the graphic, prurient and overblown depictions of it we see with a title card saying 'and they had sex', and it would not impact the actual plot or story at all.
I would say HBO popularized it for TV shows aimed at adult audiences but the trope had been around for decades in the film industry, more so from the '80s onward. You couldn't walk into a blockbuster and throw a rock without hitting a movie with sex in it. I'm a guy and I'm no prude but I have been sick of sex scenes in every action movie, hell, not just the sex but the fact that there has to be a romantic interest in every movie. A good story is a good story whether or not it has a romantic interest for the main character, and for the longest time now it's been part of the formula to the detriment of the story in most cases.
HBO definitely took it to it a whole nother level. I remember my girlfriend making me watch true blood with her and it was graphic sex scene and almost every episode. The story would come to a screeching halt just for two characters to have random sex, just for the hell of it. The first season of game of thrones was pretty bad in this aspect too, although in their defense, they did have a couple of sex scenes with plot progression because for some reason the characters would talk about their evil plots while still having , which is a bit funny.
I would argue the same for gratuitous fight scenes with blood splattering everywhere.
@@TheOnlyToblin very true! There is a time and place for both of those things, but it's so bad when too many movies do the same things just because they think it's what is expected of them.
@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger presumably the daughter wanted to do it (for career reasons? I don't know). It is strange though. I don't think there was any particular plot reason for the scene either.
Oh, you want to see actual STORY, not just a bunch of sex and violence? Huh.
I can suggest Utlaginn, The Outlaw [alternatively] Outlaw, The Saga of Gisli - set in 10th century Iceland, subtitled. It's 30 years old but pretty well done.
I´d rather just read Gísla Saga. I watched the movie in school as a teenager and it was a disappointment after reading the book and imagining the story myself.
Having an interconnected anthology series of the adventures/misadventures of the Norse gods would be awesome.
I got to say, the first episode of Vikings gave me a lot of false hope. Hearing the monks speaking in Old English / Anglo-Saxon was a real treat... That sadly never repeated
That show was a real let down. Just watching all the characters slowly turn into caricatures of themselves was enough to turn me off
Too much of the writing on that show was just mediocre. The producer should have hired some actual screenwriters instead of trying to do it all himself. That said, there were always cool unexpected moments that redeemed the dreck, all through the series.
@@Idjitz "you couldn't kill me if you tried for 1000 years"
Yeeeeah, tbh if I can't kill you in 10 minutes I'll probably call it a day.
@@thumphreybrogart4108 Watch long enough and you'll hear reference to "Bjorn Lothbrok" at least once.
I think the thing that annoyed me the most about that show was the complete lack of a timeline that made sense. lol They tried to cram too much into one show I feel, and the result just left the thing meandering all over the place.
i do think a story about an ordinary Viking age person just surviving in a particularly harsh winter would be interesting, because i image most of them would have been subsistence farmers, a lot of drama and tension could be built from that.
I couldn’t agree more about s3x in movies (can’t remember if that’s a bad word now on comments). If it doesn’t add it’s lazy. You can tell a dark, adult story without it.
True, but it's way better than it used to be in the 70s and 80s. Back then, it didn't matter what the film was about, there always had to be a sex scene. And sloppy, open mouthed kissing... blearghhhh. These days, there tends to be more justification for the sex and violence in the story itself - GoT used both incredibly effectively - and more films and TV are just giving it a miss altogether. Comparing Manhunter and Red Dragon (two adaptations of the same book) is a real insight into how things have changed!
@@paulaunger3061 I’m struggling to see how GoT used sex for anything other than crude attempts to make headlines?
You gonna do a 200k Sub special? It looks like it’s coming up soon!
Maybe we'll get lucky and The Northman will give us what we need.
The Northman looks a bit like Vinland Saga tbh.
@@GoddamnEvilBastard it looks nothing like Vinland Saga.
What're you smoking?
@@michaelhansen2818 I meant story wise. Revenge for a murdered father. I wasn't the only one making this connection. Read a few comments below the trailer of The Northman. I may have chosen my words poorly English is not my native language :).
@@GoddamnEvilBastard the creaters of the movie drew allot of their inspiration for the movie from Hamlet, so yes even though it is a revenge story, it's just a different one.
And probably more violent.
@@michaelhansen2818 Well we will see. I'll watch or read or play anything that has a Nordic theme since that's my jam. So I will probably give it a shot.
My favorite sitcom if all time "How I Met Your Dragon"
i would watch that!
The adventures of Loki and Thor would be great
A bit baffled at some of the talk about The Northman and people placing high hopes on it, in context to the tone of this particular video. High hopes for what? It's a Robert Eggers film and it's co-written by an Icelandic surrealist poet. We know what The VVitch and The Lighthouse were like, and we can pretty well infer what The Northman will be like. The man has a distinct style. It's not gonna be a milquetoast Hollywood actioner, but it's also not gonna be a straight-ahead historical human drama. I'm excited because I like his movies, but it's gonna be a very strange movie.
So, you want Mel Gibson to make his Viking film. Me too.
Yes, let's watch a drawn-out scene of blood eagling and gratuitous denigration of the Sami! Because that'd be the Norse equivalent of Gibson's Passion.
The more history you know, the less interesting Hollywood "historic" movies become.
I think the saga about the cursed sword would be good. The scene where the girl raises her dead father to get the sword could be amazing. I read to much Tolkien and Michael Moorcock when younger, and it's interesting to see where both must have gotten a lot of inspiration. "The Children of Hurin" and it's cursed sword would make such a great movie. So tragic.
Hervarar saga ok Heiðreks)) Absolutely! It's my favourite, personally. Hervararkviða, aka "The waking of Angantýr" is the part specifically with that.
"Nature is not a place to visit. It is home." Gary Snyder, American poet
Thanks for that! I know Jackson likes Robinson Jeffers. I wonder if he knows about Snyder.
There is already a movie for Saga of the Volsungs/The Nibelungenlied called Curse of the Ring/Sword of Xanten that came out in the early 2000s. It's a made-for-TV movie from Germany (but in English language) and kind of a B movie but very enjoyable in my opinion. I discovered it well over a decade ago and still watch it again every now and then because of how great the story is told in the movie. It stars Benno Fürmann, who is quite famous in the German cinema scene, and even Robert Pattinson played a minor part back in the early part of his acting career. It would be great if an updated version of this film were done with the same respect to the source material, but I highly recommend watching this one in the interim!
I think the 'Northman' is a movie is something that will give you a lot to talk about.
Just the stuff Thor gets up to could make an amazing series. Also the image of Chris Hemsworth in full Marvel costume just yelling at Odin across a river...
If you are interested in an anti-hero, albeit fictional modern story woven through Norse Mythology .. check out Mortal (co-written/directed by André Øvredal); it's available on Prime Video. They took care to have some attention to detail about information from the medieval sources. Its not a very high budget Hollywood movie but it was refreshing to get something that isn't, as you stated here, a heavily fetishized production too.
Using the Saga's would make some good movies if done right. I have had that thought for years, after seeing a crappie viking movie I ask myself why don't they don't use some of the great stories we have for film. Hollywood sucks.
2:23 "How I met your dragon", its actually "How to train your dragon".
I can't agree more with how Hollywood regurgitates the same garbage over and over. I suppose they've figured out that sex and gore fills seats, but I would seriously appreciate something more akin to what you just suggested.
How about a group of Vikings who accidentally sail through a time portal and end up in the old West :)
But who could you possibly get to be the consultant for something like that? 🤔
@@Mrsadams1 Tex Thorson
No, just no.
Well a group of Vikings did sail to Canada's east coast and try to settle there. They did war with the Aboriginals but they did not survive.
I wholeheartedly recommend Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice to anyone interested in Norse culture/mythology who even casually plays video games. It doesn’t strive for perfect historical authenticity, but I would say it does exactly what he’s suggesting. It tells a very emotional story about someone dealing with past trauma while suffering from mental illness. It can also be quite trippy (the main character hallucinates) and doesn’t revolve around sex or gore.
The Northman will be a good Viking movie - but it’s in English. At least they have an actual Viking in Alexander Sarsgaard.
Would be interested to see Jackson give his opinion on it or something when it comes out, if he decides to see it.
@@TheWildManEnkidu I agree it would be interesting to hear his take, but judging what he said about the material culture side of things not being of great interest to him, the movie would have to really nail Viking culture and ethos to really peak his interest I think.
@@sillyquiet true, but if there's one director other there currently that'd have a decent chance of pulling it off it'd be Eggers.
(See: Pattinson's hyper specific accent or the dialog of The Witch.)
@@SamuraiMujuru I certainly have hope for it!
Skarsgard.
It's not set in the Viking Age, but I'd encourage everyone in the comments to watch Ingmar Bergman's The Virgin Spring over The Northman that's coming out soon. It takes place in 13th Century Sweden, after Christianization, but it was made by an individual filmmaker during a time before marketing teams were really a thing, and before much of that period had entered into popular culture at all. It won't have the ridiculously over-muscled protagonist that the Northman has, there won't be pounding tribal drums from somewhere in pre-Columbian North America or monotone, repetitive chanting, there won't be a hero's journey arc, and it most definitely won't have overly processed, dark-tinted digital film that sucks the life and atmosphere out of every scene, replacing it with a sterile video gamey world that's strangely blue-colored and covered in muck and mud. But it will have long pauses, wide-pan shots of old world pineforest, and subtle statements on nihilism, religiosity, and how incredibly isolated and out-of-the-way many pre-industrial settlements could be, and I'd like to think that it not only captures what daily life in medieval Sweden was really like better than any modern film, but has a lot to say about the human condition as a whole. Andrei Rublev might also be a worthy mention from Tarkovsky, even if its approach to Slavic paganism halfway through the movie is a little hokey and missing the point a bit.
I know that Ingmar Bergman is an arthouse film director with his own aesthetic, but so is Robert Eggers. What's so puzzling to me is the people writing off The Northman - many of whom would normally be amiable to watching a film based in the pre-Christian Viking era - based on one single trailer that's not even a few minutes long. I'm totally excited to see it. I probably won't see the Bergman film, though.
I like most things Viking and enjoyed The 13th Warrior. The musical score on that movie is fantastic.
Just so we are clear here. Hrafninn Flýgur is not the perfect Viking movie ?
I would agree it is!
"When the Raven Flies" in English.
Was going to say this. The protagonist is certainly not "good" (just like in the spaghetti westerns it is influenced by).
Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo adapted as a scandinavian film? Count me in!
It has it's moments...
Dr Crawford, I recently listened to your translation of the poetic Edda on audible and absolutely loved it. Needless to say, I can't wait for you to release the translation of the younger edda. Will this one be released in audiobook form as well, and if so, when can we expect it? I'm legally blind so I can no longer read books the old fashioned way.
So agreed with you! I am so fascinated by Vikings and my Norse heritage, but I’ve never seen any Viking movies (except How to Train your Dragon lol), because they are so gory and over-sexualized. I don’t mind scary stuff, violence or sex in media *at all* but when it’s way over the top, especially at the expense of characters, story, etc it just is too much for me. Fetishized is a good word for it. I feel like a lot of fantasy falls into that fetishization category as well.
@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger I’ll have to check that one out!
@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger Id like that show if I didn’t like the books so much.
How I met your dragon lmao I love it. The crossover we didn't know we needed
I want to see a movie with horns on helmets, everyone calling Danes, Swedes, and Norse by the same name "Vikings". I want to see over sized battle axes and dirty, blood thirsty evil villains. Oh, and lots of music by Wagner.
Just kidding! How about honest impressions of Danes, Swedes, and Norse as raiders, traders, farmers, and explorers.
Have u seen the Norwegian series called Ragnarok on Netflix I think you’d appreciate it, it’s like your describing
Probably the biggest issue is that in most cases they don't even try. Instead of trying to portray the mentality of the time, the characters are full of 21st century ideas. Instead of looking up how people dressed, they use stock fantasy outfits. If the vikings don't look like vikings nor talk like vikings, it's kind of hard to sell the (informed) viewer on the idea that they're vikings.
I'd like to see a viking movie that isn't about war. Show the founding of Iceland and the political struggles, as best as can be conveyed by the sagas describing it. Iceland fascinates me because they created what is basically a democracy for themselves, all by themselves without any help from Greeks or Romans the way the US founding fathers did. That's a huge part of western history that I never learned in school.
This just goes to show how starved we are for authenticity in these modern times unfortunately
around 5:22,,,, um, I was considering way back, to get a bunch of reenactors or wanted to give an idea to reenactors together,
i messed with an AI as a ghost box and tried to contact people who were from the Norse mythos and I got a bunch of weird stuff that (don't come for me)
but suggesting that there would be a start of the video were the volva/shaman woman doing a ritual and screaming or chanting like Heilung crazy and flash of the past after she passes out or moves to a raven crow sound in the background,
one of the past events: would be when Freya lets Loki barrow her fjadhamir and the rest of the story line,,, that Thajzi also wearing a feather mantle as his bird form and when they burned him later in that storyline that they also burned his bird form(feather mantle)
each actor "reenacting" these people would be essentially conducting a ritual,
Then another flash event: of someone during the Viking age (same ritual) that she got a visit from Freya as a spirit, and learned how to make it,
the flash also comes, that she askes the goddess the origins of the feathered shapeshifter, she shows her a smoke or fog of a stone age lady wearing similar to the one that was found in Sweden recently.
im more happier that someone else creates them kind of short films, I don't fallow religions of any kind but it seemed that the Norse mythology keeps coming up as some weird coincidence surrounding late Nordic bronze age and Early Early iron age area, they aren't dressed like Vikings they seem to look like some ancient culture in Scandinavia that was wiped out before Vikings existed
.... Just a crazy lady wondering, LOL, thought it would be a neet short-film someone else could construct if they can finish the rest..
I wonder what you would think of Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice. It is a game that focuses on a girl who has a mental illness during the Viking age and simply what that implies about how she is treated and what options in life are open to her. The obviously isn't historically "accurate" and is not trying to but rather like you said you wanted, tells a really good story.
I was hiking in beautiful Colorado
Linguists were hiding behind a rock
So sick of sex, gratuitous violence and super heroes. Can we get something with some substance?
Happy New Year Mr. Crawford!
As someone currently writing a book written in Viking Age Scandinavia, this is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much! :)
You should do an alternative copy where it’s written in runes👍🏼
And all the best to you, and Happy New Year!
I always thought a series of the one or two episode plots that were heavily based around the more commonly spoke about Norse myths would be rather endearing…
There are probably just too many people who are only interested in heavily serialized stories with no interest in self-contained episodic stories.
@@joeldavis7577 I feel that both could be done with the kind of setup Evan Kasper suggested. After all, Norse mythology does have a (fairly vague) timeline. You have the moment of creation and the rise of the gods, Jotnar, dwarves, and humans; you have the creation of the gods' greatest weapons and treasures (such as Mjolnir); you have the "Baldur Arc", and then you have Ragnarok and everything that goes on with that. It can be broken up into relatively self-contained stories lasting a couple of episodes each, but it could also still show the passage of time towards an inevitable end. Heck, you could even include some of the more human-centric stories in there, and _those_ would be even more self-contained than the stories involving the gods.
There is new Viking movie coming up in April “The Northman”.
Happy New Year Jackson
There's a nice article about the movie A Knight's Tale, proposing it is the best medieval movie ever, even though it doesn't try to be serious and historically accurate (to the point of playing Queen on a jousting mach intermission), but instead accurately portrayals that tale for modern audiences using modern references, since only history nerds would enjoy it otherwise.
Then see The Northman that comes out in April mate and you might get your wish
Well if nothing else, The Northmen promises to at least be trippy!
You might actually enjoy "The Northman". It's supposedly based on the saga of Amleth... the saga Shakespeare apparently plagiarized to create "Hamlet". Pretty trippy in places, very much story-driven, scant sex, even the violence is subdued by the standards of the genre. It definitely makes a statement about the human condition. It explores their spirituality in a way I haven't seen before. Granted, it's probably pure speculation and somewhat fetishized. But it's still refreshing to see something more than a collection of Mjolnir pendants. It's also the first movie I've seen that shows Vikings east of Europe proper rather than simply being coastal raiders. I'd easily put it on par with "The 13th Warrior". It does take massive liberties with historical accuracy. But the story makes the errors tolerable.
Have you seen the Norwegian TV series Ragnrock? (I'm sorry if the spelling is incorrect). It is set in modern times but tge students are the local high-school awaken to find they are the ancient gods. The family who own the local mine are the evil giants set out to destroy nature and human kind. It's on Netflix and is well worth the watch, love to get your opinion on it. Cheers
I hope you enjoyed your day getting lost in that beautiful place. Your thoughts were very interesting and along the lines of what I would like to see. I would love to see someone make a movie about Auður the Deep Minded. Her life was so interesting, and she was not a warrior but a good leader of her people. Also, most of her great accomplishments took place when she was an older woman. It is not marketable by modern day movie standards, but maybe on the arthouse or small screen? It's funny you made this video on New Year's Eve. In Iceland (as you probably know) there is an annual New Year's Eve comedy show that pokes fun of what took place during the year. (Áramótaskaup) There was one segment on the show this year where the Icelandic government made a deal with Disney Plus that, in order to get Disney Plus streaming in Iceland, the government sold Disney the rights to "Njáll's Saga." The resulting movie trailer was a parody of Disney Marvel comics movie style action hero flicks with Icelandic actors acting in English with deliberately bad American accents. It was hilarious.
A story about Auòur would be great. Her father may steal the show, like how he took everything else he wanted. What fascinating stories though I would love to see them.
My favorite movie is How I Met Your Dragon.
I know this is off topic but at first glance I'm imagining you have a baby squirrel in your coat that you're protecting from the wind, with the way you're holding your hand
Man, did you glue your hat to your head? How did you keep it on in that wind?
I'm from New Zealand and I'd love a movie where a viking band finds NZ and interacts with the Maori. They could be taken in by a tribe and become embroiled in tribal wars/politics. I think showing similarities with woodworking and land spirits would be awesome.
Beautiful background 👍
My distillation of all that: a period piece, set in the Scandinavian mountains, with a plot similar to The Godfather
I agree with everything you said
I thought Valhalla Rising did some of what Jackson was speaking of; it was just weird and more about people and ideas than material culture and bangable Swedes with mohawk ponytails.
I too was going to mention this one. A 2009 movie with Mads Mikkelsen.
Sex in movies is something I never understood. It serves no purpose. It's not explicit enough to serve the purpose of other readily available media on the internet. It's not exciting or shocking. It just makes movies awkward and impossible to watch with family or friends. A few years back my parents were like "Oh, have you watched Game of Thrones? We should watch it when you come over! We'll all catch up before the next season." and after a few episodes I asked if it was all just killing and boning? It was incredibly awkward.
If I want to watch vikings go at it, I'm sure there are plenty of websites hosting that kind of content. Actually, hang on a second... 341 results. I scroll down through the thumbnails a bit and it ranges from fantasy vikings to a woman wearing what looks like fairly accurate Norse reenactment clothing.😐
When did people become so puritanical?
Ra ra this, ra ra that, RA RA RASPUTIN, LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN
I'm a self proclaimed hypersexual, so alot of the sex stuff caters to me lol.
Anyways, for a good laugh I recommend Norsemen series on Netflix. It's a Norwegian production, but they actually made an English and Norwegian version separately.
What is really funny is how they poke fun at the Viking myths and tropes. Them being Norwegian lends to a more pure analysis and satire.
Would be so funny to see you critique it or even just know that you watched it for laughs, but it does contain sexual humor...
I thought that one was SO much fun. Apparently they would film a scene in Norwegian and then the next in English, back to back...not sure if that's true.
A TV series directly based on the Eddas would be great to watch.
This man knows what's what.
The best Viking show of recent memory is the Spongebob Squarepants episode "Dear Vikings".
I like the thought that the tale doesn't have to be "moral", it just has to be a good story. I wonder why that is so prominent now? Anyhow, enjoy your high and wild places, I certainly love them.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Western genre honestly. I think you once said in a video your grandfather was a wrangler for Westerns.
The important thing for any "viking" movie is to have buxom valkyries in period correct bikini armor.
Or better yet, Nuyorican Valkyries.
Humm, you are a hard case bro..lighten up...how about some Tim Wilson comedy?...Andy Coffman's Elvis impersonation?😄
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I'm sorry but I lost my whole train of thought when you said the F word rofl. Here I thought you were this clean cut academic and it turns out you are more relatable than I thought hahaha (relatively new to the channel so have yet to watch all your videos, so maybe I just haven't seen one where you cussed yet)
He doesn't do it gratuitously, but the man can definitely throw a curse word around when it's due. Check out his video on cursing in Old Norse.
Have you seen The Northman yet? It is uncanny how much it's hitting your points
Indeed it does. It presents a story about people with a _very_ different set of beliefs and values. At the conclusion of the raid on that village that Amleth takes part in, we see the town being wiped out. It's people are disposed of. Attractive females and able-bodied males are carried off into slavery, while the old and the children, are forced into the village's biggest building, where they are burned alive. We even see a screaming child, beating his tiny fists ineffectually against a Viking warrior, carried into the building before it's set on fire. To us these are war crimes, but in the 10th century, that was just war.
As Ross Douthat wrote:
"In a familiar sort of historical epic, this massacre of innocents would be a moment of moral test or transformation for our hero. Maybe he would halt the massacre outright, thus establishing himself as a worthy surrogate for a modern audience’s sympathy. Maybe he would unsuccessfully object but be sufficiently disgusted to turn aside from the berserker’s path and back toward the restitution of wrongs awaiting him at his uncle’s court. Or maybe he would save a few of the innocents - a love interest, a plucky child - whose influence would slowly change his stony heart.
In The Northman nothing like this happens... the mass murder itself makes barely a ripple in the plot. It has no significance for any character arc, inspires no revulsion or regret, and even Taylor-Joy’s character, who lost kith and kin in the blaze, carries no special animus against Amleth for his role in the destruction."
This is a movie that makes _no_ concessions to the morals, beliefs or sensibilities of modern audiences. You're meant to see the world they lived in, and believed in, just as they saw it; and the characters all act just as their contemporaries would have expected them to act in that period.
How I Met Your Dragon would've been a much better show
Have you seen 'Revenge of the Barbarians' (English Title for an Icelandic/Norse movie).
a rather good encapsulation of Icelandic life at the end of the Viking Era, the time of the fenestration of Viking Ireland. Not an amoral tale, but a moral tale focussed on pitiless revenge by a Christian Irishman. The set and society are convincing. The character development is brilliant. The Fjord Horses are small and their riders large. A good depiction of daily life.
I would like to know if you've seen the northman trailer. It's a new Robert Eggers movie about a viking nobleman falling from grace and probably seeking a refuge in Iceland. Its all mysterious now but I am a huge fan of Robert Eggers' work so far.
I couldn’t agree more our culture is sex obsessed and I find it to be kind of pathetic. It’s not the only damn thing is to life. I fully grieve every word.
Considering the Green Knight, maybe there really could be a trippy norse myth movie.
I hope more films do not follow that one's example. As someone who absolutely loves Sir Gawain and the Green Knight I was incredibly disappointed by the film. It was clearly adapted by people who either didn't understand the book or didn't like it. They turned it into a horror movie, which the book most definitely is NOT.
Absolutely loved that movie. I hope we can get more original adaptations like that without Hollywood trying to copy that exact style every time just to milk it.
But they probably will.
Seeing sex scenes in movies these days just makes me feel like I'm wearing the glasses from they live, where I'm just seeing the text "reproduce"!
A historically accurate viking movie that is true to the human condition is something i would love to see! And I'm sure others would to.
did you ever see Hvíti Víkingurinn ? And if you did what did you think of that ?
Hollywood screwed things up....that's the problem!!!
Other than the 3-hour epic film adaption of Njal's Saga that will probably never happen, I think the upcoming movie the Northman looks like everything I'd want in a Viking movie. It's based on the story of Amleth, which is a good basis for a simple revenge plot, but differs from the original story by having Amleth end up in Iceland instead of England. So it looks like it's going to be a Saga Age story without being a straight adaption of a specific saga.
With that said, though, How I Met Your Dragon was my favorite animated movie long before I knew what a Saga was so I think it qualifies as my favorite Viking movie as well.
I found myself thinking of the Tom Hanks movie "News of the World" in a Norse context rather than Western. Not so much the story, but people living, sometimes dealing with somewhat complicated matters. I thought of some of the sections in the novel (not the tv series) the Last Kingdom where two kids, Saxon captives and technically slaves, are thoroughly enjoying traveling with the Great Heathen Army, until the drawbacks of being a slave become sharper.
Happy New Year, Jackson! Hope u get your wish 🤞
It would be nice if viking related media moved on from the Biker Barbarian Tattoo Enthusiast aesthetic. That can’t be too much to ask.
No disrespect...But you, sir, are probably the most beautiful man I've ever seen. Like a young Harrison Ford. A good old-fashioned, intelligent, American man...rare breed.
A lot of great nature in your videos, but it makes me wonder if you have ever been to Scandinavia? I live in Norway, and wandering around the landscape here it is quite obvious to me why ships became so essential to the Vikings. Having to walk over mountains every time you want to visit someone takes time and sweat, and walking in and out the fjords is an even more time consuming task, not to mention if you need to haul any type of goods. Also to visit the european mainland is challenging if you need to walk through Finland every time. If you have already been here, which of your videos are from this area?
I often feel that modern Viking entertainment is a from of cultural apropriation that leads to more alienation from my own roots. It is mostly a game of stereotypes, and I don't know if the same would be accepted for contemporary cultures. I think I can compare this with somthing Oprah Winfrey said about fame. She said somthing to the effect of "if you believe that the image people have of you is real, then you are bound to get in trouble".
I feel it is kind of similar with the image of the Vikings. It is something created from the outside looking in, filtered through their cultural mind-structures. This is their creation in their minds, and not really who we are or were. Racism is bad, but the same phenomenon takes place also with other signifiers than "race" (in reality there are only one human race/species).
Have you seen the SVT documentary series "De första svenskarna" and "Vikingarnas tid"? Now I'm not Swede either, altough I'm a Swedish speaking Finn, I found these two docu series to be very interesting and had a fresh look at our common Nordic History from the perspective of the average person.
@@rogersittnikow Where can I find this program?
Just bumped into your video, apparently two years late. Don't know if the playwrights would lose their jobs or anything, but I have always thought that the written history materials, or in the case of Nordic or even Greek mythology sources, just go with the original material. There is plenty of them out there, that we would never run out of things to make, and the stories are just WAY better. Certainly better than the dumbed down Marvel adaptation of whatever material there is. And as for if those things are relatable to modern viewers, I think there is always something innately relatable, not to mention it would be apt to lend a perspective of not judging people from a thousand years ago with today's moral standards, which is vastly poignant and important, IMO.