CROSSBOW vs COMPOUND (I Was Not Expecting This)
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The average bow shooter can not shoot 100 yards lol... so i would assume the crossbow is going to be the winner for most humans.
The average archer could shoot 100 yards in 6 months with consistent practice.
definitely, i used crossbow last season and harvested 2 does, im using compound this season and have equal time on both crossbow is def easier. but compound is more fun.
Who else got excited at the end when Chris shot 10 10 9 with the compound that just blows my mind great shooting Chris
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The fact that you can even hit the target at 100 with your bow, nonetheless shoot a 29?!!Blows my mind😅🤟 great job Chris!
Glad you have clean content, if I can watch it in front of my children then I’ll keep watching, thanks for being professional.
Crossbow took the early lead, little or no warm up necessary.
Compound finished first but needed considerable warm up at that distance.
I shoot both.
Thanks for doing the legwork to prove out some lingering thoughts!
As someone who's used both, Crossbows are easy to be over confident with, rush shots and do not stabilize near as good as a compound bow. I've only ever used mid grade bows and a high end Xbow (Ravin R29) a crossbow with a bipod would be super deadly in certain hunting situations but I think crossbows will wound a lot of deer in the future, more than a compound bow. Thanks for bringing this to light Chris.
I agree with your comment. But from my own personal experience (I hunt with a compound as well as a recurve crossbow) I have seen more deer wounded from inexperienced compound shooters. Obviously this isn’t the case with everyone but I have never lost a deer with my cross bow and I have lost one several years ago with my compound likely due to shot angle making it an unfair comparison on my end. I shoot the compound for the enjoyment but I grab the crossbow to feed the family 😊 enjoy, stay safe
Now give each of those weapons to a person not named Chris Bee. Crossbow hands down. I don't even own a crossbow but someone inexperienced could take it and shoot it well, but there would be a steep learning curve to shoot a compound as well as Chris, if ever.
I think I got him 😎I would literally love to shoot with him it wove awesome
Absolutely true. Dial in a crossbow and a monkey could probably get on target or close to it… a bow on the other hand is much harder at the longer range.
that is true, i used to shoot my compound bows every day, 100 arrows or so a day, did that for 40 years. then when indiana started allowing crossbows for deer hunting i bought one and was amazed when i got it sighted in in just a couple shots and hitting bulls further than i could with the compounds that i put SO MUCH time and effort into perfecting.
I agree, and if you happen to be in the last man standing during the zombie apocalypse, imo it's best to have a crank style crossbow should you be injured or disabled and not have the strength and stamina to use a compound.
I was in the market to buy my first crossbow and was thinking about a TenPoint but after I watched this video I bought a Mission sub 1. I have owned a Mathews compound with round cams and they are really smooth and I know the round cams are smooth and quieter than the really aggressive cams. I also like the way this crossbow loads and the de-cocking function. Chris Bee is amazing to watch and his expertise is really valuable. I have three months to learn to use the crossbow before deer season starts. Great video Chris Bee!
i'm medically unable to use a standard bow. I have an ICD(implantable defibrillator) and they've had guys rip the lead out of their heart drawing a bow. My crossbow has a crank and i can smoke tight groups at 50 yards no issue. I've never tried 100 yards but i suspect i wouldn't be a big deal with it. I started hunting with bow last year and got my first deer(8 pointer) this September. Shot it at 30 yards, went straight through without an issues. Ran about 50 yards and dropped dead. I'm thoroughly hooked on bow hunting now though. A lot of bow guys trashed me for using crossbow saying its not real bow hunting but if that's the case then recurves are the only thing those "real bowhunters" should be using
@ 7 minutes Chris is like, “If yer sight tapes off or your peeps not lined up, everything is amplified” … not taking into consideration that most of us commen folk couldn’t shoot that good at 50 yards! 🤣… W😳W, fun to watch!
Great video Chris, but I haved to be honest, I thought the crossbow would win!! Great job getting the compound adjusted and what an awesome 29 at 100yds! This has motivated me to get out and shoot some longer distances. In the past I have only shot out to 50-60 yards for outdoor 3D practice and not nearly enough I might add!! ;) Can't wait for warmer weather out here in the East Coast of Canada so I can get outside and shoot!!
Your channel got me interested in archery and at 40+years old and a life time rifle hunter I finally built a hunting bow for up here in the PNW (Oregon native living in WA State and we own property in Idaho) and Im shooting my bow every chance I get. I can't believe it took me this long to start shooting a bow but Im HOOKED and channels like yours, Elk Shape and The Hunting Public fire me up to no end. Thanks mate. Keep up the awesome content. Hopefully one day I can shoot some 3D/TAC-style comps like I see you shooting. It gives me a goal to work towards.
Yes, a Chris Bee video to end the night🔥
I can’t get a hold of the number?
I've shot indoor target 5 spot and can absolutely hold my Hoyt Easton Pro Medalist compound bow steadier than my reverse draw TenPoint Nitro XRT crossbow when not using a a rest of any kind. But using a mono pod with the Xbow or off a rest the XRT is like a rifle.
The long draw length of the reverse draw is also a game changer. I prefer the compound bow as it's more rewarding. The XRT is to easy as it's so forgiving. The compound bow takes a lot of practice to be consistent. Any slight change in grip or release causes fliers. Once you settled in your groups tightened right up.👍
Nice shooting.😎
Really cool video. Shows how good you really are once you got yourself warmed up and your aim point figured out, you were drilling it. That last end you slapped the first two arrows which was remarkable!!
Warm up to awaken the body's memory
I’m Addicted to the sound the arrows/bolts make on impact!!! 😍😍
People think that anyone can pick up a crossbow and just hit anything at any distance and consider it cheating using one for bow hunting but this proves you still need certain fundamentals to be accurate and consistent even down to having equal pull when drawing the string. Another great video
I guess it comes down to the sacrifice between accuracy and reload time. Crossbows are more accurate but take way longer to reload and bows are less accurate but reload time is way quicker.
Depends what your end logic is.
Because even if compound bow is easier to hold, at one point shooter will be tired faster than crosbow...and if you get tired on a crossbow you can always find a nearby fallen trunk or anything and use as a base.
Besides there are the reloading crossbows with a magazine of 10ish bolts ^_^
And a legolas upgrade for bows as well with amagazine of arrows ^_^
@9:45 CrossBow for the win even before you started
It matters on the way you hold the cross bow it’s like holding a gun you don’t want to death grip the gun or crossbow. Just hold it where ur hand is pushing agents the grip on the cross bow and push down in a slight angle and it should help with the recoil and accuracy or replace the grip with a vertical grip and that should increase ur accuracy. By 100% and if u do Replace the grip with a vertical grip don’t grab it like u would with a actual stick just put ur had in front of the grip like ur holding a burger and push down in a slight angle and put ur hand in a slight angle.
Compound used to be near generation crossbow 100% crossbow. I only wish I could afford a crossbow a good one. I cannot see the pins on my compound anymore.
Those last six shots with the bow were really good shots. I started shooting a bow when I was a teenager and now at 55 years old I bought my first crossbow and really enjoy it. That was some pretty good shooting with both. Great video.
The tension of drawing the string back helps stead you. The crossbow doesn't have that. I became way more accurate when i added a bipod to my crossbow just for kicks. This happened because i could hold the bipod leg and pull towards me to stead the crossbow. Rather than just floating trying to hold the weight.
You are one heck of an archer Chris! Amazing shooting with the compound.
Since I got my hinge I’ve been shooting the best I ever have. Shout out to Ultraview Archery and Great job shooting Chris!
If you mount the crossbow on a tripod for stability, you will get dead solid grouping that way. Crossbows are a lot heavier, your arms will get tired and you start to shake after a few shots. If you are hunting, you usually sit tight in one place with it mounted and ready to go. pain to carry around as you are walking to your hunting spot or even scouting, but the shots speed and placement are no match to any other bows. I still like to have a compound or recurved bow just in case and for fun! great video bud!🤙
If you would have lubricated the arrow flight rails after every two or the shots with the cross bow it would have defeated the compound bow. You had to keep adjusting your sight pins on the compound bow to get it to hit the target but even with the sight pin tweaking it still didn’t shoot as good as the cross bow did. If you had of lubed the cross bow rails the cross bow would have won the contest easily.
Nice video great shooting compound all the way… love the compound it feels more stable than a crossbow
May have missed it, but didnt see a level on the CB. Crossbows are heavy, off hand shooting isnt easy. Good shooting with the compound Chris ( as always)
Great shooting Chris. Your videos are always educational AND entertaining. In regards to the distance and wind…I would suspect there is some turbulence effect when shooting through the compressed area where the barns are close. Thanks.
Nice comparison, however I think that 6 shots in total are way too few for a valid conclusion. -> Shoot 10x the Bow and 10x the Cross bow. Repeat this process with 10 different shooters of varying skill level and one might get closer to the truth. You sir are a talented / well trained shooter no question there.
It's always a great day when Chris bee 🐝 post good job nice shooting
Good old Chris, just taking pop shots with the cross bow, to make the compound look more competitive😂 your welcome Matthews
Chris man way to go out Monday with a bang!
I have a Cobbo from the military that played with in the army and they had me backpacking all over the place anyways, I’m trying to get into a compound boo it’s gonna be one of a kind. This is a compound recurve and I’m gonna use piece of spring steel to create the longest yardage you’ve ever seen. The world record is 680 name is to go 700,000 or anywhere in between.
I spy a UV scope mounted on an HHA bar!
Very interesting and nice video. I would love to try to shoot crossbow. But they are illegal in Denmark (you need a weapons license and a police approved range to shoot it). But maybe someday I'll get there. But else I shoot a 42# 30" ATA compound bow, with a draw length of 25½". :-) Mostly for 3D with regards to competitions, but for practice almost only target archery. It is appr. 35 years since I got into archery, but I only started to shoot compound appr. 12 years ago. Well ok, I had a compound bow 30 years ago, because I took a bowhunting licence with it, but I didn't shoot very much with it. And these last 12 years or even longer, I haven't in general shot longer distances than 30 m, because that is my max distance for 3D and because when I tried I didn't shoot well at the longer distances. But during the last few weeks, I have started to out to 50 and 60 m. And it is going surprisingly well, so I am starting to like it. So during the next week, I'll try to get sight marks at the longer distances up to 90 m.
It's interesting to see that the compound bow wins this challenge. But I guess the challenge with crossbow is that you really have to hold it tight and still plus the short arrows are more unstable in flight. But it its very nice to see that you can shoot a 29 p. round with compound at 100 yards. But it is even more impressive, because it looks like the target faces are 80 cm center faces and not 122 cm, that would be the WA standard at 100 yards / WA (if there still was an official WA round at this distance). Very nice!!
That dime at 14:05 was nice!
Bro's using his trouser back pocket as a quiver. 😂 "built different"
Your shooting at 100 yards with your compound bow is impressive.
For the crossbow you need to do a couple things. Bolt tune second lean more forward and pull the crossbow tighter to your shoulder breath in breath out hold squeeze trigger dont pull it.
This will helo trigger breaking canting and bouncing. Making your groups slightly better. All in all not bad at all.
Compounds will still out perform crossbows but these skills will get you better.
That’s awesome. Nice groups on the crossbow
I swear, brother bee, every video i watch of yours, you got them sniffles. Take care of yourself, brother. Love the long-range content.
What type of release are you using for the compound bow?
Amazing what you can do with both. I just got my wickedridge rdx 400 amd I have the edge 320 compound bow. I love sending arrows all over the place lol 😂
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definitely have to tune a diamond off the shelf... the cam timings are usually off by a good amount & you need to twist or untwist the cables
Dudes super modest lol groups like that at 100yds is pretty dope for a compound bow! I made a fluke shot at 108yds with my pse xforce a few years back just a bucket in a field with a orange circle
OG’s remember the first one w trav🤙🏼
Great video...U are extremely talented with the compound ....good job Chris . The sub 1 is ridiculously accurate if you had shot it with a bipod you would've hit more 10s 🤣😂🤣 but still ......a great video 😁
The thing is you can get 3 Arrows off on the bow to every 1 bolt on the crossbow. Speed and accuracy wins the day.
I love your bows I really hope the bow wins!!!!!
There was also no fine tuning done to the crossbow. They can be pin point fine tuned just like a compound.
Great shooting I just bought a used Mathews and been shooting it all the time. I can hit a 100yrd target but nowhere near as good as you. Love your content.
Great shooting Chris!!! I see there is hope that I can run an Ultraview scope on my HHA sight!!!!
Glad to see someone else notice the HHA when ultra view says they don’t match up.
@@shanegraham7853 I can only assume that Ultraview has made accessories to fit HHA sights and Chris is testing them out, maybe still in testing phase...
@@agi6521 I agree, I’m also secretly hoping they make some attachments for Black Gold sights.
Dude; either way, x-bow or compound, that is some sick shooting at 100 yds! Well done.
Holy cow! I can't even see that good!
When you bench rest the crossbow it is sick. My neighbor bought the cheapest PSE on Ebay, $289.00 with arrows. He never even set the scope. 1st shot, 20 yards and 2nd shot 30 yards I used the cross, 40 yards the next line down, 50 the second line and 60 I had to shoot from across the street while he watched for traffic. I used the third line. There was 1 hole in my new foam target, dead center. Blew me away and ruined the center of my foam block. Still use my compound though. Never ran out and bought one.
I'm partial to Crossbows myself as my dominate hand and eye are on different sides so using Bows are mildly awkward and Crossbows also just generally allows anyone to be a bit better than they actually are.
I'm shooting Mission at Vegas 2023. I prefer 20" Bees though. Great job man 100 yards.
Thanks Chris! Great video!
A crossbow would be a serious advantage over a compound especially with a rest. Much flatter trajectory, less susceptible to range errors, better penetration, etc... But, crossbows are not allowed in archery only seasons in Idaho. If they were, we probably would not be allowed to hunt elk in the rut, or mule deer in winter range. I would if they would let me, but I would also use a sling shot if I had to to be able to hunt longer seasons at the best times of the year. Maybe they should eliminate some rifle draw hunts in ID and replace them with general season cross bow (or even archery) hunts instead.
What is the feet per second for the crossbow and have you done the feet per second with your compound bow?
Que buen video, gracias por la información
Alot of ppl say while that cross bow is at rest you gave l have to mark both sides of string on the rail so when pylon back and voicing cooking it it pulls even
The scope on the crossbow is a big advantage. Shoot the crossbow with a pin sight and see how you do.
I shot a crossbow last season and got my first couple archery kills.
Stepping up my game with a Blackout Intrigue XS compound bow. Hoping for a bow buck this fall!
That last round with the compound is insane!
Love the vids Chris but I need some help shooting past 100+ with my landslide I’m not sure how you do it because the tape only goes 100
Awesome shooting. Last group with the compound is unreal at a 100 yards.
You should have a 100 yard shootout with Cameron Hanes.
Fun video. Seems like when you slow down your shot on the compound, your results are much better. Good shooting on that late round!!
Hey Chris! Greets from Germany! Normally you would have to use a red dot on the crossbow. You have a magnification on your scope, which you don’t have on your compound. So the compound is the winner in all cases… 😂
✌🏼 Tom
Excellent video! Great shooting!
what kind of pants are you wearing?
Dooode! “Let’s goah!”
Great shooting Chris, very surprised outcome!
As much as I love to see the compound win, truth of the matter is most of us are not able to produce similar results. Speaking for myself, I don't have the time required to shoot at this level. At more realistic distances (30-50 yards), and with more novice archers, the crossbow will win every time. Shooting a compound is a labor of love, and I love it and the challenges that must be overcome.
The very same reasons that crossbows gained favor in combat, vs the longbow. Anyone could be quickly trained to shoot one.
If the drossbow causes problems to hold in a standing position why not kneel and rest your elbow on your knee?
Amazing shooting dude! I wish I could be half that good and I'd be happy. The shoulder doesn't let me get much range time in. That's my excuse and im sticking to it dangit! lol Do you any kind of shoulder warmups before you shoot? I kind of assume so, anyone feel free to point me to a video where shoulder safety/warmup etc. might be addressed.
That bolt speed compared to arrow speed at 100yards at impact sure is noticeable. Feels like the arrows are barely tapping in by comparison :p
For hunting reasons , I would want the crossbow because it can hold a drawl for basically 24/7 , and you may need to hold back until you get the best shot lined up . Which , I think I would also want a shooting stick/rest . Speaking of shooting sticks : do you know of any that are micro adjustable ; I'm thinking one that has that finger paddle/trigger lock that you find on AR stocks to adjust stock length in mind , but a push button might be ok , not 💯 sure though .
Bet if you tune the crossbow using Victory VooDoo X-Bolts it would shoot a lot more accurately... what I use. But everyone is different... in how they do stuff... and I do archery too... but my crossbows will always be more accurate... also have better scope on my favorite crossbow... any way this was interesting to watch. have a good 2023 coming up soon...
Shenanigans!!! Shenanigans!!!!! Shenanigans on the whole thing dude…….
That was great Chris! Can you point me to or show what you meant by not using your double pin? Is that something I need to shoot out past my normal 70 yrd pin set up? Again gret shooting!
What if anything would you change about your process (if anything) if you had a wind flag downrange near your targets showing you real time wind direction?
^compound beats +bow... love it. i can go to bed now. good night.
im fairly sure that you had tuned arrows you shot with that bow
now if you did same with crossbow, having spine tested arrows, you would have sub 1" groups
and as far as i know, you should be able to do that with sub1 crossbow and its factory arrows
thats where the name comes from
I mean, just look at the difference in size/weight/profile of an arrow vs. a crossbow bolt; it should explain the difference and why crossbow shooting ain't affected that much by wind.
This was entertaining, but so easy to throw the results either way.
Brilliant archer Chris Bee, we hunt alot with crossbows on my farm here in Africa on Nyati (Buffalo) and they are amazing But prefer the skill of the bow myself Well done, you should come over to Africa and film a walk and stalk 😀👊
Let’s go always a great day when you post Chris.
At a glance, I thought that in this video was Zed from the movie Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol (1987).
love it! how's that HHA sight going?
Can I get quick run down of your axis arrow for the compound? Idk if you already have a vid about it
You should put a sling on the crossbow. You should watch videos of long range shooters use sling with M1 that shoot with iron sights I guarantee that'll will help you with your steadiness. The sling will let you use your back muscles.
What I’m impressed with most, is how deep the X bow bolts are penetrating the target at that range.
Keep in mind, they are a little over half the length of the hand drawn bow's arrows. So really, it's not that impressive
@@mikeford963 you must be confused! It is impressive; less mass and more penetration.
@@2cthetruth Oh, and cross bow bolts are HEAVIER than most compound bow arrows. So, in the end, it's really not that impressive at all. If they were buried to the fletch, THAT would be impressive.
@@2cthetruth I highly doubt it's "more pentration". If his compound arrows are 29" long, and they penetrating to nearly the label on the shaft, vs the 14"-16" crossbow bokts are only penetrating half their length, that's not impressive at all. Also, there is a significant difference in initial velocity as well. The compound is likely shooting in the 300fps range(depending on arrow weight), the crossbow could be 375fps initial speed.
@@mikeford963 You said, "Oh, and cross bow bolts are HEAVIER than most compound bow arrows." What planet do you live on? I hunt with a Ravin. .003 bolt and broadhead = 400 grains. You'd be hard pressed to find someone that hunts with a cross bow that uses bolts/broadheads with a total weight over 425 grains. Now, the average arrow and broadhead for a compound/recurve bow for deer hunting purposes is AT LEAST 650 grains. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. ALSO, the penetration at 100 yards is highly dependent on the velocity AND mass of the arrow. Take my Ravin 450 fps against anything you can muster up (compound/recurve) and you are toast. PLUS I'd be more accurate. The group of a tuned Ravin can place arrows darn near on top of themselves at 100 yards. To conclude, the obvious goal is an animal that is humanely killed, so who gives two shits of the technicalities as long as that can be accomplished?
Id be happy to hit the target with all 3 at 100yds. Shooting at distance is exciting to me and it could be the risk of losing an arrow. Right now I'm just shooting some v-power arrows. Need to get cracking with my hunting arrows bc all a sudden its gonna be deer season but losing an 8$ arrow is a lot easier to swallow than a 20+$ arrow.
That's amazing at 100 yards. Had me gripped right til the end!
I’m curious about the gear you got on your front what’s that pouch I’m fairly new to archery trying to get into it make things easier than carrying it in my pockets
Make a video showing how to put the ultra view housing on the HHA sight
Don't know why it's got to be so complicated? Pick your weapon, learn to use it, kill a deer.
Dude, your technique is incredible!
I really wanna buy the Ultra View hinge 2.
Driving out to Lancaster Archery next Wednesday morning. I hope they have them there