IJN Nagato - Guide 086
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- The Nagato class, battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy, are today's subject.
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The Nagato the battleship that vampiricly absorbed all the good luck from every other battleship in the Imperial Japanese Navy including her own sister
and then formally forced into surrender by the USS Iowa! XD
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and then expended as a target for a A-Bomb test
@@snakes3425 yeah...like the stubborn USS Nevada!
@@patricklenigan1650 I think you mean Pensylvania
@@VersusARCH Wasn't it the Arkansas that got nuked?.
Nagato was the only IJN battleship to survive the war, would have loved to see her preserved as a museum
Yeah but USA had to destroy it in a atomic bomb trial.
I would've loved to be a museum too
Well, the Mikasa survived the war too.
@@kommandantgalileo Mikasa was already in drydock and hopelessly obsolete. That and it was still narrowly scrapped (pretty sure someone mauled the hell out of her to turn her into a night club). If Japan had kept Nagato it would have most likely been given to the Russians as war trophy.
@@ledichang9708 But she did survive, so technically, the statement is wrong, technically.
Nagato. One of Japan's best battleships outside of the Yamato class, and she saw more action than Yamato. If only she was still around
And survived the war
The Yamato class actually saw more action. Each nagato only participated in one battle, while Musashi had one, and Yamato had 3.
@Hunter6213 That was the second nagato class Mutsu actually.
If only the americans hadnt nuked her.
I mean it’s still around, just under water
My Dad (deceased) participated in Operation Crossroads, he used to tell me about the Nagato. I believe he told me it was painted red, and easy to see. He saw and photographed both explosions.
It was a bright orange I believe, all the ships at crossroads were
I've often heard that there was debate about whether the Queen Elizabeth class ships should be considered the first "fast battleships" since they could do about 24 kts. The Nagatos could do more than 26 kts, but every documentary or encyclopedia entry for them refers to them as either "dreadnoughts" or 'super-dreadnoughts," and they are rarely mentioned in discussions of fast battleships. Why is this? It seems that a +26 kt top speed easily qualifies them as fast battleships.
24-26 kt was probably fast battleship territory in the WWI to Washington treaty era but after the actual post treaty fast battleships showed up in the 30s 28 kt was pretty much minimum for that after KGV, NC, SD, littorio, Bismarck, Yamato, etc started showing up
Ultimately it's because it doesn't fit the preferred "narrative" about Japanese ships.
thats a interesting point the North Carolinas are considered fast battleships and they do around 27 knots
Nah we also know the *real* first fast battle ship was HMS Victory
There's a triangle of speed, armor, and firepower... right? The QE's and Nagato's made tough decisions and sacrifices to achieve their on-paper stats like everyone else, but they were very much ships of their time and not really leaps forward. Subsequent refits would also leave these ships greatly overloaded.
Definitely a very interesting video. I have never actually seen the image of nagato anchored alongside akagi in her 3 flight deck configuration.
About 20 years ago I was honored to meet a man who I will never forget- His name was Jim Oeswein.
During the war, CPO Jim Oeswein was a leader of men serving our Country in the US Navy. His story was incredible. When the war ended he was in charge of re-firing the engines of Nagato and getting her sea worthy.
Mr Oeswein said when he boarded the ship it was a mess with the remains of many deceased IJN sailors still on board. Regardless, he had a job to do and managed to get her running.
After our brief meeting, he gave me a copy of his book "Sailorboy" (authored by Dresden Reese) but unfortunately he did not have time to sign it. It's an interesting read about the life of one truly great American, his wild adventures, and a "fleeting glimpse" into what life was like for many members of our greatest generation who grew up during the depression, fought in the war, and struggled to re-assemble pieces of a normal life in the post war years.
The more I watch these vids the more appreciate this channel.
That battleship certainly does have a very British aspect to it.
Hmmm
Agreed
The Mikasa, and several other lead ships including Kongo, were built in British shipyards. Japan was an ally through WWI.
Queen Anne's pagoda mast.
The IJN was (initially) VERY heavily influenced by the RN. Not surprising that some of that carried on for a long time...
One of my wife's great uncles was among the many planes that attacked Nagato while it was anchored in port near the end of the war. Due to the myriad anti-aircraft batteries on the surrounding heights of the harbor, the planes could only approach the ship from one direction making it very difficult to hit. Only two of the dozens of planes scored hits with their 500 lb bombs, one struck the ship aft and the other, flown by William Ward, struck the bridge, killing an admiral and 6 other bridge officers. The damage was never repaired, and the ship deliberately flooded to make the allies think she had settled at her moorings and thus not seaworthy. The unrepaired bridge damage is visible in the photographs of the ship in this video, seen just prior to the nuclear tests. A month after the attack, William Ward was shot down and killed, 2 weeks before the end of war by land-based anti-aircraft guns.
Before I went diving at Kwajalein, I thought seriously about also doing Bikini. Unfortunately, it's about 30 hours by dive boat from Kwaj and then 10-14 days on the dive boat diving most of the wrecks. With the exception of the Nagato, the are all extended range dives, and getting my normoxic trimix diver certificate so I could dive the deeper (60 meters) and more interesting wrecks. The total cost for the trip would have been about $6,000. I just didn't have the cash or time to do it. Rats!
The Prinz Eugen is not at Bikini. It's at Kwajalien. It was towed there after the tests as it was able to be decontaminated fairly easily. However, it did have a leak and capsized after being ignored.
commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aerial_photo_of_the_wreck_of_the_German_heavy_cruiser_Prinz_Eugen_in_July_2018.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
Nagato's at the same depth (50ish meters) as the other wrecks, so it would require the same cert. If you get the chance, it is truly worth it!
Bart Wolfe we can’t all afford that white privilege
that's one of the big seven for you. Even nukes could barely deal any significant damage to her. And why didn't they reserved her? Such beauty...
The nuke was detonated underwater and caused a tidal wave which was the only source of damage but made the ship highly radioactive as a result. A surface detonation would have sunk it no problem.
Fleda Johansson cause USA wanted to show Imperial Japan this is what happen if you fuck with them, Nuke the symbol of your might after sinking the symbol of your nation with overwhelming force.
Nobody fuck with America!
I don’t think the US was very keen on putting a former enemy’s battleship into reserve.
@@jontsu98 the rottwn system which we call the USA is crumbling. It will take a knock on the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crushing down
*Turns bright red* I don't know how to respond.....
Wow that photo at 5:10 has both Yamato class in the background
@日本Jinsei IJS behind them
Jeez... how horrible that such beautiful pieces of history were used as glorified target practice dummies. Imagine what a Nagato or Prinz Eugen museum would've been like if those ships were maintained, and not nuked beside an obscure Pacific reef. :(
As many expressed, *'MURICA!*
Keeping boats in reserve is expensive.
@@typehere6689 nukes are expensive. history is invaluable.
@@Sky_Guy NOW THIS!
Strictly speaking. It was necessary to test the effects of nuclear weapons on ships of different sizes. I'm sure the Yamato would have been blown up with an Atomic bomb had she survived the war, just as easily as the Nagato was.
Prinz Eugen is not at Bikini. It was towed to Kwajalein, where it capsized.
@Russ Gallagher
It takes time for anything modern to become historically valuable. The axis ships were just other ships at the time and useless for anyone.
@Russ Gallagher I was a kid then. We suffered greatly to support the war effort. Food, gasoline, auto parts, and every day common hardware was impossible to obtain. This was no time to pour money into preserving obsolete enemy vessel's for future observances. And yes Musashi proved carriers were viable and battleships were obsolete.
@@larrytischler570 You were a kid during WW2? Wow! How old are you now? You must have a very unique experience of the world as you've seen how technology has developed.
your video's are much appreciated.
IJN Kaga and Akagi please!
Now they’re out
Overall look at Italian Battleship design in WW2 would be very interesting
Correction: Historians insist on "Battle off Samar" - not "..of Samar" as you call it at 5:25. My questions is why? We don't speak of "Battle off Jutland" or "Battle off Trafalgar"; why is Samar so special? Not important - just wondering!
Traditionally naval battles were named after the nearest point of land, since most of them tended to happen relatively close to the coast.
You had a few odd ones that were so far away from land that they needed other names, so you got the Battle of the Glorious First of June, which was another way of saying no-one actually knew where the battle was except that it was too far away from land to be worth working out.
In the 20th century battles started taking place further out, so you had things like the Battle of the Denmark Strait.
I believe that Samar is so-called because most see it as part of the larger 'Battle of Leyte Gulf', ie a sub-part of a larger battle.
+Drachinifel Thanks for the reply. Indeed, the uniquely-named "Battle off Samar" was part of the larger "Battle of Leyte Gulf", but so was the "Battle of Cape Engano", and thus with your explanation, (respectfully) I don't think we are quite there yet. Perhaps going back to the very first report on this battle will provides a clue as to the source of this odd naming - let's have your thoughts:
Consider Vice Admiral Thomas Kinkaid's post-action report to his boss, Adm. Nimitz titled "Preliminary Action Report of Engagements in Leyte Gulf and off Samar Island on 25 October, 1944". Within this report (available on the Hyperwar site), the engagement is described under the heading " Battle of Samar Island" but I guess the title of the report carried more weight, and this epic fight between Vice Admiral Kurita's Center Force, and Rear Admiral Sprague's Taffy 3, was and forever will be known (oddly) as the "Battle off Samar".
@@philipjooste9075 Perhaps there was ground combat on Samar, so they made the distinction? Or, perhaps they made the distinction because there WASN'T combat on that particular island, either way, it is where it took place.
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Yeah. I'll bet that's it. "Engagements in Leyte Gulf and OFF Samar" is probably what did it.
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Philip Jooste
Samar is a piece of land, thus name "Battle off Samar" because unlike Leyte Gulf, Leyte Gulf is a name for a GULF, and a gulf is not a piece of water unlike Samar which is an actual province in the Philippines.
DRACH Thank you for correcting pronuncuation of Eye-see to. Ee-say.
Nagato seems to absorbed the luck of her own little sister unlike the brave big sister Shokaku sinking from all the damage she shielded for her lil sis
Cavalla:
I would love to see / know more about the IJN Type A 1941 cruiser design aka the Zao / Senjo
I cedrtainly appreciate how you've improved your Japanese ship name pronunciations since this video
Q&A What would a 1980s modernisation of the King George V class look like had they been kept in reserve like the Iowa Class.
Idk but I'd love to see the Argentinians trying to bring General Belgrano in for a surface action with that.
Wish we had been able to keep this one. Would have been nice to be on board as a US Sailor when being trained on how to operate it from the original crew.
Better volume, thanks!
"Yo wa Nagato... Juu'ou no Nagato de aru!"
Wall of barrage
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A dreadnought became loli
@@viktorjoachimmoscoso6327 Yes, wonderful, isn't it?
my man
Can you do a video on the shimakaze destroyer, as it seems to be one that is not talked about much even though it was a fairly experimental ship.
HAHAHA, i just got Nagato, she is a thing of beauty. Now aiming to get Mutsu.
Q&A: Can you elaborate a bit on Operation Crossroads as a general subject? Thanks!
The US wanted to see what nukes did to a surface navy, so they found out.
I love the Nagato, her specs are rather close to the Bismarck, despite being much older. In this way, I feel like Nagato gets under appreciated.
Japan started out really strong, if the US hadnt cut trade with japan indirectly starting the japanese american war, yamato may have been the most fearful ship ever with the highest damage capacity
Those pagoda masts, its like someone visited the US, saw the empire state building and thought, 90 stories on our ship sounds like a great idea...imagine the observation potential...
Imagine being up there in a storm, with rolling seas and breaking waves. Pike city, for sure!!
Hey i know u get this alot but I really do love the chanel keep up the good work :)
I have long been fascinated by the Nagato and its career - a ship built for the First World War who was destroyed by the enemy at the dawn of the Atomic Age.
Thanks! Cool video. I really dont get the chance to learn anything about the Japanese war ships
*Warship Salute To Secretary Ship Nagato*
Kancolle Reference*
Just married her last week,worth every single tears
Not going to lie, Nagato should’ve been preserved, her and the Tosa class were the only WW2 Japaneee ships I actually liked
By the end of the war Japan was economically devastated there was no money to create museums ships. Technically neither did the US or the UK thats why so few of the US or UK warships were preserved. Keeping war ships as museums is very expensive just look at the USS Texas to see how that ship has faired over the years.
@@robertsullivan4773 Texas was only like that because the ones tasked with preserving her were negligent and not up to the task of preserving her properly. There are some warships older than her that are in better condition such as USS Olympia and HMS Caroline.
And if I recall correctly there was a ship on the Japanese side that was at Midway that’s currently being preserved.
Update: The ship I’m thinking of is Sōya
Wait, you didn’t like Yamato
Japan didn't have the money to in 1946 being broke because of the war, and the US probably wouldn't preserve a ship that fought them.
@@battleshipfan3435
There was early report before Operation Crossheads implemented ,that the US would give back the Nagato to the newly formed japanese govt as tensions between USSR and US rises
If Operation Crossroads would not proceed, then the Nagato would be recommissioned as one of the first JMSDF capital ships
Nagato is my biggest love !!!💚💛🧡💙💛💚😍😍
Q & A I would be interested in your opinion of how a battle hardened ship and crew of the Leander class HMAS Sydney managed to fall prey to a camouflaged German raider. Lucky salvo, complacency or conspiracy?
I vote conspiracy!
A bit of the first two, although I am sure the German crew was quite competent gunners. However, it remains true that Sydney got too close for comfort, possibly feeling a bit complaisant due to being close to home after an eventful commission.
Key word camouflage. Didn't know what they pulled over
The raider torped them at close range
The new-ish Commanding Officer was not all that experienced. Error of judgement to approach so closely... and yes, possibly a bit of "Home Waters" complacency. Conspiracy? WTF? Where did THAT come from? What conspiracy?
my favorite dreadnoughts
“Don’t you know, I’m still standing, better than I ever did”
“Lookin’ like a true survivor, feelin’ like a little kid”
“And I’m still standing, after all this time”
“Pickin’ up the pieces of my life, without you on my mind”
“I’M STILL STANDING!”
Oof. Great Vid.
Still waiting on the Texas
Bubby theCuck the Texas is about half-way to the front of the queue now. You can see it in the video description. :)
FooWasHere Ahh, didn't even notice the list. Thank you kindly
It's sad when a ship dies like this. So glad the last ship I was on was turned into a museum. It's nice to visit the old girl once in a while.
At least she wasn't scrapped. She went out in a blaze of radioactive glory.
It's a piece of metal. It is the men who operated it and their deeds that made history.
Can you please make a video on the 25mm AA guns and why they were so ineffective?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_25_mm_AT/AA_Gun
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What a pitiful end to a fine combat unit. All of these IJN battle wagons should’ve been sent into the Guadalcanal night battles.
Nagamon de wa nai, Nagato da!
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The Nagato is at bikini atoll the Prinz Eugen is at Kawajilean atoll I have flown over it.. it is quite visible
Great video!
Did they serve as part of Admiral Radfords Fleet during the Kure naval base strikes?
Guide to Shigure!!!
Why do I get the sense that every video on the IJN involves either the Great Canto Earthquake or the 4th Fleet incident, as if mother Nature herself had it out for them
in my opinion the nagato should have been preserved as a museum.
We were the only country with money to preserve ships, and we sure as heck weren't going to preserve any Japanese ships. Plus the Nagato had long unrepaired combat damage and was barely fit to limp to Bikini Atoll.
@@timclaus8313 i mean battleship texas is literally fighting for its life cuz shes going to capsize
@@greycatturtle7132 USS Texas is getting all the bad steel replaced in the torpedo bulges and other spots in the hull. She will be in better condition when leaving the Gulf Copper yard than she has been in for decades. For 108 years old, she is in pretty darn good condition.
@@timclaus8313 uh if you say so
@@greycatturtle7132 You can check on TH-cam for videos showing all the work done on Texas in drydock. Same with the New Jersey.
The way Nagato was treated goes to show you just how much the winner writes the history books.
All of you flatter me with your kind words.
I'd really like to see a video sometime on the Japanese 25mm AA guns. It's a bit of a highly specific thing... but something I've never seen specifically addressed. I hear over and over about how absolutely rubbish they were, and yet the Japanese kept putting them on ships. The best explanation I've heard is: 'they were the only nation not smart enough to pay the Swedes to license the Bofors, and having no time to invent their own new gun, just opted to make do with what they had'.
I covered them in a segment in one of the Drydock episodes, each episode has a list of subjects covered in the description :)
How about doing a video on the Z Class German destroyers.
Request USS Texas bb-35 please! I got engaged on that ship a couple months ago. ;) Also Grosser Kurfurst, Kongo, specifically Tirpitz if they haven't been done already. Keep up the great work on your videos. We appreciate them!
Texas is a couple of months down the line on the list but it is coming!
They reopened Texas?
Yes. It's been open for a while now.
Referring to one of your other presentations, I feel that the Kongos were the most aesthetically pleasing of all warships. Many like the Hood, or Bismarck, and I am quite fond of Dunkerque's odd lines . . .
( www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/french_models/dunkerque_moitrot.html ),
But the picture of the Kongos you placed in your video says it all. Beautiful, both in proportion, and in motion.
The USN Sumner class DDs are also beautiful ships.
I always thought the Graf Spee was quite lovely.
This monster was a force to be reckoned with! She was superior to Bismarck in all ways except for speed. This is what you call a battleship, not like that glorified commerce Raider that most wehraboos claim was the most terrifying battleship ever built.
Nagato had inferior armor and fire control and rangefinders compared to Bismarck so Nagato isn't really that superior
@@KatyushaLauncher still Bismarck was overrated. Some wehraboos claims she was far better than Yamato. I mean wtf?
@@TheKilroyman Bismarck is very overrated but that does not change the fact of her capabilities
I would argue that Bismarck was equal to Nagato. On paper, Bismarck had smaller guns, but from what I've heard, her shells had a VERY high muzzle velocity to make her penetration power almost equal to a 16 inch shell. Bismarck's armor thickness was slightly thicker, and used a high quality face hardened steel, while Nagato only used cemented vickers steel, but Bismarck used an inefficient armor scheme
@@TheKilroyman The people who say that are insane.
Q&A, If the British carrier, indomitable I think, had not run aground and missed the gig in the Far East, do you think the Prince of Wales and Repulse would have survived the Japanese air attack, or would we have just lost a carrier as well?
The best answer would be "Maybe". A lot would depend on such things as the type and number of fighters the Indomitable carried. British carriers usually carried fewer planes than United States carriers. Were the British fighters obsolete biplanes or modern planes like the Sea Spitfire?
@@Steve17010 Probably would have had Sea Hurricanes and Martlets (F4Fs) but even before that Blackburn Skuas were the usual RN carrier fighter so no biplane fighters.
@@Steve17010 Air wing was 24 Albacores, 12 Fulmars & 9 Sea Hurricanes at the time. Initially used to ferry RAF Hurricanes when it reached the Far East. Best case the Albacores are used to scout ahead so Force Z doesn't have to operate so far north or the fighters are able to break up the Japanese torpedo attacks.
How about a blog on the British K class submarines
Didn't the Americans build the first battleship to mount her main guns in the "Queen Elizabeth style" with first dreadnought type?
Nagamon
I always wondered how those Pagoda masts affected ship stability?
Robert Ballard noted when he found the wreck of IJN kirishima that the superstructure acted like a keel the ship did not write itself on the way en-route to the bottom of the ocean.
American and British superstructures on battleships got shorter and shorter
The great Kanta Earthquake damaged the Amagi (battlecruiser variant) if the hull was rebuilt the Amagi (battlecruiser variant) could've sailed with the Nagato class and the rest of the IJN as an aircraft carrier besides the Amagi (aircraft carrier variant)
@KMS- Z23. Not quite...
When quake happen Amagi was at 80% conversion stage (enforced by W. Treaty regulations) but due far too severe damage to her keel she was declared as impossible to restore her to the full operational status.
That's why converted Kaga took her place (which by the way saved her from scrapping again because of the Washington's Treaty obligation impossed on Japan) alongside of Akagi in 1st Carrier Squadron of the Kido Butai.
@@asheer9114 yes and there's an Amagi aircraft carrier that was abonded and found in 1946
One day, in Japan:
Mogami: 私は退屈です。
Fuso: うん。 私も。
Wakatuki: 私 三。
Mutsu:
Mutsu:
Mutsu: カボム!
It's good she was given a warrior's death and not scrapped
Mutsu. Funded by orphans, and argued to be retained by the IJN for that reason (and being a 16in armed ship probably didn't hurt either)
Q&A Considering how within roughly 10 years of the end of WW2 the formerly Axis nations were heavily rebuilt both economically and militarily, with large portions of their previous military personnel reinstated, was it ever considered to give/sell/loan them a substantial portion of the WW2 surplus ships to them? If so, how much (if any) of the Axis-produced equipment would be reinstated? In such a rearmament would some nations have it better, and would it have been possible that the IJN Haruna or similar condition ships could have been fixed, given she was in shallow water, and her turbines were restored for industrial use in the 1970's? As for a different IJN "Coverup" did the IJN actually try to hide the Yamato in Kure Naval district by mooring the Hosho next to her?
This actually happened. The first larger ships of the german navy british Black-swan-class sloops, Hunt-class DEs and surplus Fletcher-class DD loaned from the US. The first two submarines were WW2 U-Boats (Type XXIII) that had been scuttled and raised.
Larger vessels however would not have been suitable for the new requirements within NATO. So even if ships like Prinz Eugen would still have been around the Germans would have had no use for her.
The Germans got six Us Fletchers, two flower class and still used KM minesweepers (there are still mines to this day). However, you have to remember that planning only started in the fifties and many ships had already been beyond repair.
I'd speculate that the allied powers that were in charge of such things were not particularly keen on preserving capital ships, to be returned to former foes. Once the axis militaries were reconstituted, they were done so much more modestly. And the US had plenty of lesser craft in reserve to sell for that purpose. Japan's Navy was (and still is) restricted by their constitution to self defense as well. So capital, offensive ships like carriers and battleships were not in their plans post war.
@@brendanh8978 My question was a more about whether the idea of reinstating/restoration of former Axis Naval Assets was seriously considered by the allied powers post-war, and if not "Seriously" then to what extent? I know it's a big question for a comment section, but I can be largely satisfied with what I have learned; that it was about as serious as the video in this link: th-cam.com/video/17hgrt8RQ20/w-d-xo.html
One IJN DE did survive the war and was re-commissioned into the JSDF Navy after W W II.
Thanks for sharing the video! I was in Bikini Atoll this past July and had the chance to do several dives on the wreckage of the Nagato. The ship is still in remarkably good condition. We anchored right above the propellers, now the highest point on the wreck, and were able to explore the turrets and bridge which are still accessible even though the ship is upside down. This is my video of the current state of the Nagato th-cam.com/video/JqI-EUqPZVk/w-d-xo.html
She "survived" the nuclear test and if she had a crew aboard or even had running machinery to counter the flooding, she could have stayed afloat. However, she saddly flooded slowly and eventually rolled over and sunk
Somehow, instead of modernizing her and made her faster, they slowed her down from 27 to 25 knots. Nagato should be another fast battleship to complement Kongos as carrier escort. Plus, being designed from get go to be battleship, certainly can took more punishment than Kongos
Revenge class please or kaga aircraft carrier
Q&A: How would you rate the U.S.N's 1.1 inch AA gun .vs. the IJN's 25 mm AA gun?
I know why the Mutsu blew up. In true Japanese fashion, they had anime girls in sailor suits working in the magazines. "What could POSSIBLY go wrong?"
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Why didn't you mention that the Nagato was the First ship ever to have a battery at 16 inches or over?
Why would that matter?
@@DreadX10 Well, at the time it was a very big deal, since then they had the biggest guns in the world, meaning all other nations had to do it as well if they wouldn't want to be outgunned.
Just got this bad boy in World of Warships :) Already had Mutsu.
Every time I hear either you or the computerised videos say "cas-seh-ment" it grates on my ears.
As far as I know, it's just 2 syllables... case-ment.
Well Mr. TH-cam Professor, I looked it up on Wikipedia and it's actually "casemate" mate. Please take your false knowledge elsewhere mate. Why are there so many of you on the Tube who pretend to know something-mate?
@@stevek8829 Steve you say it as Casemate or Casement depending on where you live. Please stop trying to correct everyone if you can't comprehend dialects. It isn't soda pop or soda-pop it's all 3.
@@ravenwing199 Actually 'casement' is a completely different thing referring to windows. So calling it that is actually incorrect. It's definitely Casemate. And Drach is in fact saying it wrong in this video either way :P
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Do the Mogomi class next
Thanks for showing real pictures of this ship. Had you shown some video of this ship in action , it would have been very educational.
Sometimes in life you need more pagoda
What are those pipes for that run 45deg down from the main decks on the early model?
Torpedo net booms :)
Not bristling with range finders...?
I love your work, however the first ships which carried super firing fore and aft main guns were the American South Carolina Class. The QEs and all others like them copied the Americans.
Oh God, I heard that robot voice in the beginning and thought.. NOOOOO!!
Why not just put millimeters on screen so the rest of the world don't have to pause and Google a converter... Anyway the rest is very good and interesting.
Hmm the 25mil aa gun and increased effectiveness of a aa battery don’t really go together
All of these vids are well worth my time. Though I've heard from other sources that the Nagato was more significantly impacted by that second (underwater) nuclear test. These sources site a photograph indicating the Nagato can be seen standing VERTICALLY in the gigantic plume of water displaced by the explosion. Either way, that's where this ugly duckling met her fate.
Ugly duckling? Not exactly, the Nagato and Kongō were the only Japaneee ships that actually sported the Pagoda tower without interrupting the overall aesthetic of the ship. Fusō however? She did not.
I do not understand why the Japanese equipped their battleships with such generally, weak armor protection.
There must have been a reason - I just do not know what it was.
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They had light armour in exchange for speed and firepower
@@hashteraksgage3281 I know the theory. But the theory was pure idiocy. Jutland proved that.
@@McRocketi guess because the ships had to be fast to keep up with the carriers. That's why the Fusos didn't see service, because they were too slow to keep up with them.
Coooooool
What's hard to believe is that the Japanese refused to put their best battleships into action, almost anywhere where they could have made a difference. Guadalcanal, for example, the real turning point of the Naval fight in the Pacific Ocean saw older battleships perform shore bombardment and ship to ship fights, mostly with US cruisers and destroyers, the exception being the 2nd Naval battle of Guadalcanal where newer US battleships fought older Japanese battleships which the US won, but at a cost! If the Imperial Naval had sent the bulk of their battleships force to Guadalcanal at the end of October and mid-November, the battle on the Island could have turned out differently! But the Japanese were saving them for the "Big Gun" battle nearer Japan, but they appeared to be the only side not to learn the meaning of Pearl Harbor! So they saved their battleships for a fight that never took place! Even at the Battle of Samar, with all the newer battleships facing escort carriers and destroyers and destroyer escorts, the Japanese couldn't bring themselves to go for the landing beaches because they might lose them, so they left the fruit on the tree and US troops and shipping would go on to end the war. And, Japanese newer battleships would become bombing practice for the US Navy/Air Force or used as scrap after the War!
Unfortunately, you are missing some key information. The reason that the battlecruisers were used in spite of their age (and that was irrelevant in many ways, given the extensive modernization) was their speed. The forces based at Rabaul and forward based in the Shortland Islands were all fast ships that could make it to Guadalcanal and back in a single night. You see this with Savo Island, where the Japanese reused to risk them closer to the island while its airbase was in American hands. Had they had available fighter cover close enough to matter, you might have seen it happen, but as it was, the battleships weren't fast enough to accomplish the mission. And at Samar, you must understand how much the confusion of battle (especially in a force with little and ineffective radar) and the expectation of a trap played into that. Air attack, highly aggressive day time destroyer attacks, and the use of high explosive bombs (which in the confused and smoky conditions could be confused for shell geyers) they were convinced they were up against a much larger and better armed force than was the case.
Battleships use a huge amount of fuel, about 2.5 tons per mile (yes, tons per mile) at their most efficient cruising speed; much, much more than that at the speed necessary for a high speed run from Rabaul. Japan didn't have enough oil to use their big ships.
@@tomhath8413 Which was the reason US older BBS weren't used in the Guadalcanal due to the lack of oilers which those available were needed to refuel the carrier task forces. Japan left their BBs and heavy units close to the fuel supply. Not sure what you mean about BCs.
@@SierraB109 the Yamato's top speed of 27.46 knots, maybe 28 knots on a good day, was good enough to operate in Guadacanal.
mutsu model KO not nagato
Still waiting on that pagoda mast, xmas tree episode...
q and a electromagnetic rail guns, worth the effort or not?
Just my thought in the matter Id say its a resounding No! The power required to fire a Rail Gun is ~25 Mega Watts of power. The only ships in the USN That currently have the spare power to fire the weapons are the DDG-1000's (Zumwalt class) and the CNV-78's (Gerald R Ford class). Long and short, their incredibly expensive, not all that effective, and if used today would have a limited range of ships that could utilize them. Their kind of like the RAH-66 of the Naval world, is it impressive? Yes to an extent, but when you look at the cost of the development process, cost of the individual unit, and what it will bring to the Armed Forces, in the end for what your going to spend and what limited advantage it will give you over existing hardware, its just not worth it. And most of the information you find on them is all just a load of hypothetical bs, like "In the future it can shoot over 200nm!!!!" and "It will have computer guided projectiles and be capable of intercepting missiles!!!" (never mind the fact of trying to "guide" a projectile with a muzzle velocity 3x's faster than the fastest aircraft to ever exist SR71 and MiG25 XD )
With time they will be worth it
Fun fact: the Nagato class battleships were funded by japanese school childrens
Only Mutsu was actually funded by the School Children while Nagato was still funded by the navy
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return Nagato! return Nagato!