What's the point being "better" and being "Worse" we all have our skills and etc, and we don't have to be bad or good on it! (We should be grateful for this game and nicer not forcing tho.)
People need to realise toxic positivity isn’t a good thing either. Downplaying criticism isn’t good as it widens issues, there are people who spout hatred with no end goal But people like Bennji don’t and actively want Fortnite to better itself and become better. In the end criticism isn’t hatred.
@@Thawheedi icl I don't see how it was mid. I feel like people misuse the word mid now... Like this event was objectively **good** bare minimum, and subjectively it was great
As a Team Fortress 2 player, I can say that our community has a similar problem with Toxicity and hate raiding creators. It’s caused a problems and has divided our game numerous times. Another thing I find funny, is how drastically different our communities used the term “bot” and yet still hate their presence in the games. Fortnite bots are AI players used to fill lobbies and give inexperienced players a chance to get elims or even wins, and the community doesn’t like them because defeating one feels hollow and like a waste of resources. TF2 bots, on the other hand, are players controlled by AI that use cheats to flood servers, spread hate speech, and ruin the fun for everyone. It was a crisis that was completely ignored by Valve for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, until millions of players started a boycott to force Valve to do something, yet we still experience the fallout of this crisis, as Free-to-play players are still muted from voice and text chat, thousands of players have abandoned the game due to the bot crisis, and everyone is still skeptical about if the daily player count is even accurate anymore.
@@MarianzYTyeah you’re right on the money dude😂 I own almost everything that’s comes out (I like collecting skins) and whenever there’s nothing new I kind of just drag it through the mud not realizing that not everyone has all the items that return to the shop.
yeah, the only time i think a shop isn't good is when they barely add anything and most of it is the same shit that's been there for weeks. if they actually add things to the shop i won't say it's bad, even if i personally don't like the items in there.
and so many of them are kids. it's sad. kids are so goddamn impressionable and when they're on fortnite that shit is ALL they hear, so they think it's cool and start doing it too.
As someone who enjoys Fortnite but isn’t a hardcore fan here’s my take on the community from what I’ve seen The community just seems really spoiled sometimes like they ask for one thing, they get it, then act like they never asked for it. There also is 2 very different sides too the community One side will absolutely defend epic with their lives no matter how horrible their decisions are The other will hate on epic games with every single piece of their existence no matter there decisions There is very few who actually are in the middle. Fortnite ever since chapter 4 started has been horrible for me too play the only seasons i enjoyed where OG, ch4 season 2, ch5 season 3 (only because of reload), ch5 season 4 (the best season in a very long while for me), Another community that acts spoiled is the cod community they ask for something, get it, then complain about it.. Obviously cod is in very bad state right now but you get what I mean I’ve seen what happened too one of my favorite brs (apex legends) get utterly ruined cause of the amount of yes men just not holding EA/respawn accountable I’ve also seen stuff like cod warzone be ruined because of people being too nitpicking about it (also because of infinity wars and Activision) So ya that’s my take on it…
me personally, I think that it's not toxicity as much as it's an absence of the same love for the game and an excess of ambition, pride, and/or love for one self. trying so hard to suck up to competitive nerds and Epic that you end up never truly caring for the game itself and therefore never loving it as a product.
Unironically I don’t even think it’s just the pro scene. Because if you’ve seen the mention user by bennji these lot are exactly the most pro friendly. However, these lot still act like have a toxic positive mindset. Overall it doesn’t matter if you are a pro or a casual, criticism isn’t hatred.
Absolutely well said bro, it makes me sad that people don’t have the same love for the game as the rest of us, these other ‘certain TH-camrs’ do not care for the game AT ALL depending on who you look at, some of them always say yes to everything and kiss epics feet but benjii is different that’s what I like about benjii cause he’s straight to the point and other creators don’t like what he has to say whether it’s game related or his opinions on what should change in the community. I got to give it to benjii for being more of a bigger person than these Fortnite drama channels with no moral compass especially when they didn’t even ask to react to his content.
I don’t agree that epic sucks up to competitive “nerds”, if anything they cater to casuals way more. If they actually did cater to competitive , then we would not keep getting crazy items in the game, especially in competitive. Their haven’t been a single season that epic games actually catered to competitive over catering to the casual player base.
@@Jordanthecool7 yeah but sometimes the 'pros' complain about an item that makes the season what it is for example the hover jets got nerfed multiple times because the pro scene and some content creators lose to other players using it and assume its broken instead of realizing that you can't win every game you go into. I remember this one guy said the 'pros' would rather complain and ask for change instead of just changing how they play and finding ways to combat said issues. (it wasn't to that effect but I'm paraphrasing).
@@Biggielol. to be fair, pros do change how they play to combat the issue , but that doesn’t make the items not overpowered , that’s why they still complain because they still actually want change. Also to add context, a lot of things seem like they aren’t op because the average player isn’t that good , so they often somehow still loose with these items . But if you put these things in the hand of anyone even decent at the game, these items would be extremely overpowered with little to no counter’s . That’s why I say they should just separate the casual and competitive loot-pools, cause it’s unfair to both sides to have whatever is added or changed in game effect both modes. Pros have to deal with op items in ranked/comp, and casuals have to deal with fun items getting nerfed .
Just wanna say don’t change what you do. It’s refreshing to see a take that aligns with my feelings. I think you are very well grounded and I hope for nothing but big things for you and this channel.
Honestly agree. I really hate the way Fortnite has gone with balancing. Op weapons with little to no ways to combat them. There’s op weapons which can be balanced BECAUSE they have things that combat them But these newer weapons are just so powerful the one way to combat them is just having pro style aim. And as a casual. I don’t have time for to become a pro.
Some people give me a sideways look when I say this but, I think wrecked was fine when it came to its vehicles. Now this is not me saying at the beginning of the season they were great because they really weren't. They were overtuned with no real counters. But by the middle of the Season we had so many ways to counter vehicles or even just say nuh-uh to them. It's just a lot of those items that were meant to drop with the season, didn't drop with the season. (I mean we didn't get the minigun until the last week of the season) this season the jetpack has maintained its place at the top of the viability board. To the point that it's been nerfed several different times and still maintains that slot. And the fact you can combine so many different levels of Mobility with said jetpack, I'd argue this is the most versatile Mobility item in the entire game.
@@Therapist_Demoman yeah and when they tried to add the EMP grenades and the Stark assault kit, they didn't realize, "wait a minute, the jetpack actually works well with the Stark assault kit and EMP grenades". So what was supposed to be the "counter" ended up making the jetpack even more versatile.
@Keeneye47_Wolfkeen Epic really needs to add counters to the season's gimmick items at the start instead of drip feeding it throughout the entire season
I think I first played fortnight in ch3 season 2. No builds was in, running and sliding was in. Og was fun but with zero build not having movement was a drag!
ill just say this as concisely as possible OG fortnite is a good thing, it enables a fresh experience for new players, and nostalgia for old players exclusivity on the other hand, is a bad thing -- it creates a weird sense of 'taboo' on items returning and a sense of superiority that has no place in a E10+ game. let stuff return, let people buy what they want. the only people that care are people that seek either artificial value, or seek to sell their accounts. me personally?? id love for people to be able to buy old favorites like omega or drift. i hope they enjoy them as much as i once did. i had several years to enjoy them and have moved on to other skins. its not heinous to allow others that same privilege.
honestly bro. it makes things like illegal account buying and epic keeps bringing back exclusives on accident lately so just get rid of it entirely and give us a shop with every item in the game with rotating discounts or something
But why?? It's literally a free to play game, that has been popular for years, there's way to earn battlepasses for free. This is something that would absolutely kill the game for so many players. Yes, I want my exclusive skins that I bought a year ago under the pretense that it was an exclusive battlepass skin only avaliable in that season to STAY as an old battlepass skin, it's literally the entire appeal. If you didn't get it, you didn't get it. This isn't a buy old favourites, this is epic being a greedy corporate shell chasing profits and selling back old content to their playerbase. It's a malicious and disgusting business practice. This is without even ackowle3dging the fact that Drift and omega have COUNTLESS shops variants that have followed since their release. No. It isn't about artificial value, I don't sell my account because I have rust lord, or Drift. These are reminders and cosmetic symbols of my loyality and dedication to playing the game, why would I want that resold years later after promised that it would stay exclusive?
@@dough8869 i understand your passion and loyalty as a long-time player, and I understand the significance that exclusivity holds for OG players, even if its a small majority. i, like yourself, value the unique appeal of exclusive cosmetics, but it’s also worth noting that the majority of players are not as invested in this exclusivity. a significant portion of the player base is open to the idea of older content being reintroduced, as they wish to engage with the game more fully. this shift can foster a more inclusive environment, allowing newer players to experience the same content and excitement as those who have been around longer. the decision to reintroduce certain exclusive items can often be seen as a strategic move to rejuvenate player interest and engagement. for instance, in the case of halo infinite, the developers have successfully implemented mechanisms that allow for both new and returning players to access a wider array of content. by reintroducing older items, they have managed to not only maintain player satisfaction but also attract a broader audience. This has had a positive impact on the game's community, providing opportunities for players to enjoy a rich and diverse selection of cosmetics that reflect both new and legacy content. i understand that you feel strongly about your exclusive skins and the promise made regarding their availability, but it’s essential to recognize that the gaming landscape is ever-evolving. developers often face the challenge of balancing the desires of long-term players with the need to attract and retain new players. the introduction of older items can serve as a valuable means to achieve this balance, fostering a more robust community. ultimately, i empathize your concerns about corporate practices and the perception of greed when it comes to monetizing content. however, the reality is that fortnite is a business, and epic games must find ways to sustain themselves while also catering to their audience. at the end of the day, the goal is to create a game that serves both the loyal player base and new entrants, ensuring that everyone feels valued and included. i hope that this broadens your perspective
Its not ungratefull to say that Fortnite had systems that were probably better, and we dont *have* to be thankful they still "do things" while it might have been better if they didnt change it
Problem with your entire video structure about klarque and this is your picking a very one sided topic where if your on the side on exclusivity, the person defending will always lose. You used klarques worst stance he could possibly take and gave your run down on his channel structure Poor example of character used to give your take. Then you disengage any further content revealing other sides of him unknown. As someone who takes his takes greatly I'd be pretty pressed myself. To be labeled and not have what I wanna say regurgitated back To use all these terms and words on klarque is ironic when you skip forward in video and your rock glossing layo 🥶😭. Thing is none of yall small fortnite channels are any different from one another. Which makes this all laughable. The structure the thumbnails all being similar. The excessive double standard. While writing this i went to your epic video and 3m in your already displaying this double standard. Overtime is done better than in previous seasons, as all things these "fortnite bad, do better" videos tend to name. The bonus lvls are legit new, *meaningful* things. Something your 120 items from the previous battle pass is not. Meaningless additions which only affect systems tied to those old seasons with xp boosters. I won't go on as imma just go to that vudeo and continue there. Let me see if your takes are worth something if all this drama spurred. Lets see if your takes are any better To be frank you creators love your inner dramas so i wont speak on how you felt when they reacted to your content or the behavior associated with them. But remember this is a fortnite channel thing, none of yalls videos are positive. No ones gonna react to some save the world video, none. Its as rocket league is to fortnite, a sacrificed mode. Besides not to mention uninteresting. It contributes nothing to metaverse then and wont any more later. Its purposeless in regards to the meta initiative No one likes whiners who closes down conversation but thinks others will care what they say
@@Bennjipie Ngl benji I feel a bit bad for you 😭. All these creators jumping in and chiming. Never knew it'd get this massive. I hope you continue uploading cause if it was me I'd be crashing out at all this. Plus I'd be lying if I wasn't enjoying these Fortnite bad videos. Wouldn't want you to leave the scene
So you also saw recent Noodle video lol? I know how much of a spiral hate can be, and it takes courage to admit when you're wrong. While I was not a fan of how you laid out your points in your other videos, I do agree that Epic can do better. It is important for content creators to be vocal about issues and not blindly agree with Epic. I wish you nothing but the best in your content creator journey, and I'm excited to see what's next. 👍
@@Bennjipiehow was it hateful? I didn't watch thw video and I will since I'm uninformed but I watch clen and klarque and they both seem to be very respectful people. I don't think clen would be hateful towards you
@@zumbapui9653I really don't wanna come across as hating on benji I just think he's playing the victim. Why are youtubers not allowed to react to your content? He says he's not opposed to differing opinions but then he gatekeeps people doing so? It's cool if he doesn't wanna talk to clen or klarque but then just let it go, don't gotta make a whole video about it
This beef is only you pls leave clen klarque alone they meant nothing they only wanted to say hey i dissagree but im glad your putting your opinion to your viewers. So pls just stop also they arnt trying to be a pet to epic they want to be a epic partner to say hey this isnt a good change and im not being rude because i came from clen but im just saying they meant nothing
thing is people want fortnite to go back to it's roots, Or to go back to the og graphics or og weapon models But im sorry but who wants that back? We as a community need to understand, og it isn't coming back permanently That's in the past, sure I had really fun memories but I accepted that fortnite is changing and the graphics look alot better. Im tired of people using the argument, oh it doesn't feel like fortnite or oh fortnite doesn't care about it's players and doesn't listen. But has the community thought for a second and used their brain? Complaining 247 isn't gonna work, especially doxing or harassing the devs that's just gonna make it worse, people need to be respectful and greatful for what epic has given us over the years, they easily could've made the game stick to chapter 1 season 1 but no they improved and gave us so much content over the past 7 years.
The problem with this video is that they are doing the same thing your doing giving some criticism on your vid they didn’t pull a sniper wolf and not do anything while reacting to it. Also I like how you bring up the TH-camr has a child and is a grown man he is 26 he can do what he wants on TH-cam even though he may be in his 20’s that doesn’t mean he can’t make content, and with your argument with Klarque he gave you the opportunity if you ever change your mind
@@mobthewolf7645No it’s simply called stating an opinion. By your logic you seem pretty mad. And I mean I could be pretty mad but I’m not but he’s saying there toxic for doing what he’s doing, giving criticism. Benji didn’t really give criticism actually. Just personal stuff he thinks should happen in the epic games is lazy video.
@@droomkoning3266A essay is usually atleast 3 paragraphs I have one. And even if I did that doesn’t mean I’m mad, that means by your logic if you write an essay you’re mad. Which that is not true.
watching the whole video my thoughts would be that you don't need to give into these people just because you're making good criticisms about the game, they're making drama for no reason.
Clen was nothing but respectful to you when he really didn't have to be after you lied about everyone's character. I'm shocked he's extending a hand to talk and now I'm really reading you just say "no" lol
Clint is very toxic, I don't hate him as a person, and I do watch his content from time to time, but he is a total hypocrite. I don't know if he still has that view or not ,but one time, I commented on his video (I can't remember) that down a lot of criticism towards epic, and I mentioned he was being toxicly positivity. He attacked me and his audience for giving an example like apex how their fan base went down because they weren't fixing their problems and criticisms
They did hear him out tho? Most of Benji's criticisms just either nit picks or changes he personally did not like. They literally pointed out that his points would be fine if the video was titled things he didn't like about Fortnite. But he's trying to say epic games is lazy because they make updates that OBJECTIVELY take effort to do but saying it's lazy just because he PERSONALLY doesn't like it. That's the problem with his video as they pointed out. Seems to me like you didn't completely hear out all of JoJo's and Clen's point.
@@Bennjipie also saying they want to be epic partners when there already epic partners is crazy also you should know they don't dick ride the game they have so many videos talking about the issues with the game
@@Bennjipie You do realise that bringing someone's child and parenthood into argument about a game is a horrible thing to do and is something that a Twitter user would do. You didn't need to take it so personally. Ignoring what you said towards others and avoiding them isn't helping your case.
Targeting someone outside of a game over a cosmetic is outlandish and sad, which is why I think epic will bring back the passes because stuff like this can’t continue man. Notice how they’re willing to bully others and play twitter lawyer to try and defend their skin and emotes lol if this doesn’t open epic’s eyes then idk what will. Great video bro, you have one of the greatest communities on this game imo🤝🏻💯
Hi Bennjiepie I am a regular viewer of Clen's. I just wanted to come and say I've been watching him for a long time and he's a really positive person. He probably genuinely wants to put this under the bridge. I think it would be cool to see you two actually collab after all this. I will subscribe to your channel. Hopefully this all gets settled!
@@Bennjipie I don’t think they actively told there viewers to hate on you one of them even said to subscribe to you. I hope this all gets resolved. And me personally your response is just not how I would respond
So you want TH-camrs to put your name and your video description in their video. however! You blocked the names of the TH-camrs you are talking about... the reason why fortnite content creators or TH-camrs in general block names and say "certain TH-camr" so people don't harass you! sometimes it doesn't work and people can easily find your video, but still they are respecting you It could be a script error like what you said
they say certain youtuber but the name of the video is clearly out there. and i blocked the names but the ones who know who they are can find little bits of them.
@@Bennjipiehere the problem is it doesn't make any sense. You block the name so people don't get harassed (that's the whole point of blocking names) but when somebody does the exact same thing to you, you have a problem with it. Like I understand what you're saying but for safety measures it's good to not have your name out there all the time
Just discovered this channel. I love your content (I know this is kinda unrelated to the video's subject matter itself) but I hope you keep makin' more!
The reason i didnt start playing fortnite for 5 years was simply because of the community. I hated the idea of playing with a toxic fanbase. I kinda regret that decision now, but you simply cant have your own opinion in some games.
I was in the stream with one of those creators. They did not do that. They were inviting you so you could speak your mind on your video. They were trained to give you a cut phone to explain yourself
@@Transchemicalwater bro still expect an event where we fighting something for it to fight back not fail around his health was fine the problem was his damage as it was practically just shooting simulator idc if it was a mini event it didn’t feel like a event at all
@themagicalagent1 care to elaborate on how he brought the child specifically into the drama? Becaus the only mention of a child is in the middle of him telling us not to go harass the other people mentioned in the video.
Sorry, but you’re not doing yourself any favors by giving those toxic comments and dms attention. You’re just giving them what they exactly wanted; a reaction. Learn to ignore pointless hate comments that don’t even feature a valid criticism. You’ll look immature if you don’t.
i do, its the harrassment, idc about ppl hating me. its about the ppl who take it too far, its about content creators not being better with their community
@@Bennjipie I understand where you’re coming from, but this is simply how the internet works unfortunately. There will always be internet users that will harass you for no reason, and it isn’t cool. But simply calling out these random trolls and giving them attention will NOT stop all the harassment, it will just add more fuel to the fire, giving them more of a reason to harass you. That’s why the majority of content creators always ignore nasty comments/dms. If you can’t do that, then I think you’re simply not cut out to being one. Good luck.
You used a random comment that definitely wasnt true about someones fake cancer story to downplay the argument towards exclusivity, you are disingenious and thats manipulative
@@SirBaconThe3rd428 He unnecessarily brought someone's kid into this for no reason and claimed he "respectfully declined the offer." In reality, he didn’t respond at all, even though what Klarque said was nice and had good intentions. Benji twisted it into something completely different to fit his own narrative. Instead of addressing it properly, he made a video discrediting Klarque's character, despite barely knowing him. Benji got defensive for no fucking reason and is the one acting immature. He showed absolutely no evidence that they were hate raiding him, and they never even mentioned sending hate to his channel. Maybe before running your mouth, do some fucking research and hear both sides. instead of blindly agreeing with him.
When I hate something in fortnite, I don't hate it. I just find it annoying. People should learn that players are humans. And of course, Humans make mistakes.
Sad to see Klarque doing stuff like this I'd never thought I would see him commenting this way Clen is a conformist but sometimes does criticize important stuff, but it's the minority of the times. Layo is the goat and you should collab with him Nice vid, and keep it going people is going to complain anyways
I’m going to be honest, I don’t think Klarque is being hateful to you. I think he was just genuinely saying his feelings about your video. Regarding his pushy-ness to getting you on stream, he is just doing it to get himself more attention, it’s the same thing he did with pro FN players. Having two opposing sides in one stream is good for engagement. If I were in your situation I would want to join the stream, but I’m saying that as a fan of his content. Having promotion between a bigger creator and a smaller creator makes dead subs that won’t watch your videos. You made a good choice.
@@zumbapui9653 maybe it's because is actually supportive than hateful like most of klarque's audience Sorry if it feel like I'm hating too much, but I watched klarque's video about bennji and it was terriblely bad faith
5:25 Please let me know if I’m wrong but I think what you just said was if a content creator says an opinion that’s not on line yours then all they care about is money. That’s just how I interpreted it.
I don't think that people that reacted to your video where trying to be mean or trying to put there community against you i think they just wanted to give there opinion. But if because of that you get hated on that is not cool and they should do something. But look the more hate you get the stronger you will be (im not saying that hate is good) but ignore it say what you want its your opinion. Sure people can argue like i did with the "fortnite is lazy" video but i didn't insult you or nothing like that and people that insulted you are kinda not cool
Benji literally brought Clen's child into a arguement about Fortnite. How is this even close to being mean Benji when he is straight up misconstruing what kind people they are. Benji literally talks about how they are making money from their content like it's a bad thing. The hypocrisy here is Benji is as well, albeit in a worse way by making drama video about someone, not even censoring their names properly in the video and bringing a child into an argument. The video was incredibly distasteful.
Alr here’s an opinion I’m average at Fortnite and Fortnite is fun it has its moments and is also bad at times and for people out there who hate settle your daddy issues with your dad not random people
I think turbo building was a shitty decision because it made the game more competitive and epic continued to go that route. Ive been absolutely flamed for it , people say “oh you just joined fortnite more recently” or “your just bad”. But aside from not playing chapter 3, I’ve been here since chapter 1 season 3, and its sad to see the community is all about “only having fun when im winning”, ranked, edits, and being super sweaty
I also find the casual side frustrating as if you dare say something needs a nerf or have a problem in some corners you will be walking with tomato stains
Yea the community really sucks up to epic and hates on anybody that criticizes the game. Ch 5 season 3 is a perfect example, making the people who critique the season look like "babies" who cant "adapt" (even though nobody can adapt better than comp players) Just ignore them and keep up making the good content brah🤞its good to see people who genuinely love the game be worried about the current state of the game
Bro you did not respectfully decline Klarque's invitation, you have to stop thinking of yourself so highly because the way you responded to a single comment from another youtuber saying that while they disagreeded they still enjoyed your video did not demonstrate you to be an open-minded individual. Also it just feels like a lot of your points are just deflections instead of actual critique like bringing save the world into the conversation even though it has no relevancy to the controversy at all. (Also I'm not believing that you saying OG fortnite was bad was a scripting error that's just stupid)
6:26 You too, Have a good day/night ❤ I would write more about my perspective to your channel and fortnite but its quite late for me at the moment. The only thing I can say now: I discovered your channel few days ago and I love it. I love your content, keep it up ❤
Honestly first time seeing your videos I thought you were like ThunderBuddy29 who hates everything new added and only complains but man then I watched a lot of your other videos and I gotta say you are like a light at the end of the dark tunnel. 🙏
Speaking of toxicity, I recently unsubbed from SinX6 after he failed to properly inform his community the reason for Fortnitemares' 2024 delay. The reason for the delay was because after a deadly hurricane hit Epic's HQ in Carolina, they lost power, and a lot of their employee's lives were put in mortal danger. When he made a video taking about the updates' delay, he completely glossed over this fact and used only a Tweet from the official Fortnite status account as evidence which didn't even mention the reasoning. For someone who claims to be on top of everything about the game, he sure didn't seem to have the lives of innocent people in mind. And the worst part, his audience just took this at face value and tried to argue that Epic delayed the update deliberately. This alone just says everything you need to know about the people who play this game, they value digital cosmetics, pixels, on a screen more than the lives of real living people. Epic Games could announce they would take a break from development out of respect for a passed individual, and the only thing their player base would have to say in response would be "But what about my free rewaaaaaaaard?"
The problem is with bringing back old skins, battlepasses, and stuff meant to be exclusive, is impossible. The companys want their skins to be limited time, if you didn't get it, they dont give a fuck, they're gonna reskin it anyway. If fortnite brought back old passes with Marvel, DC, Transformers, or any skins in those categories, they could get sued.
I like hearing your opinions. While don’t agree with some of your opinions I like hearing others people views on the game. Because criticism (that is constructive) can lead to good change
My worry is when yhe inevitble happens and for ite is either shutdown or they move on for fortnite 2 what gappens to all thestuff ive either earned or yet to eant Its a voice that nags my mind reminding me my money wont be returning
Crazy how you're choosing to target specific people regarding "toxicity", when there's like a goldmine of toxicity between casual and competitive players. Like, when the jet packs got vaulted earlier today, people were senselessly blaming competitive players. Same with the chainsaw adjustment yesterday. Not to mention, an Epic dev got called slurs and sent death threats over tournaments being put on hold/canceled on Sunday. Not to mention, the specific people you criticized (and vice verse) wanted to reach out to you or just outright defuse the situation, yet you chose to keep this cycle going.
The community is very toxic I agree , 1 thing I would like to say though is that it often times is also casual players who are very toxic. They can be just as, if not more toxic than the “sweats”. If your even decent at the game you get tons of insults like “ touch grass “ , “ take a shower “, ect. The casuals then say that the game caters to competitive when epic adds crazy things every season (even in competitive modes) that the competitive players clearly don’t like . If there’s something clearly op then if you say anything about it needing to be nerfed your seen as a cry baby or they say “ just get good “ even though they are the same people who complain about the “sweatiness“. I do admit the competitive players can also be toxic, but not as much as casuals. Not enough people call out the casual community in the game for also being toxic , and not just competitive. My solution to everything is to 1 - make competitive as balanced as possible , 2 - make casual modes as fun as possible , and just keep the loot pool and meta’s separate from each other
as much as i love klarque he does ALOT of these drama reaction videos so i wasnt surprised very surprised about clen though, hes one of if not the most positive fortnite creator i've seen, and not to the point of "toxic positivity" since he does criticize the game alot when its needed
The language you use in this video is no different from your other videos. Going off your recent ‘criticisms’ against Fortnite i shouldn’t be surprised that the ‘harassment’ you’re claiming these creators are doing are also completely overblown. None of the examples you’ve shown can be interpreted as harassment or that they’re actively sending their fan base to attack you. The video of yours Jojo tweeted about and other recent videos of yours used language like “Epic clearly doesn’t care anymore” and “Epic can’t change and won’t change”. So yes, it is fine for him to use your video as an example of you being wrong even if you didn’t mention seasonal events specifically because you meant the overall game and direction it was heading. That creator not linking your video on stream and that other creator asking you twice to debate you, really? These come off as annoyances, not harassment. Can you name an instance of their fans actively going out of their way to target you instead of random hate comments that most creators will always receive for critizing a popular game.
Sure I can happily share everytime Benji has been poked at… So for the people that responded to jojo’s tweet knocking down benji -Clen: his “reaction”, the many instances of passive aggressiveness in every video about “epic is lazy, epic doesn’t care” since benji uploaded 3 weeks ago -Tedesco: compared it to “Nintendo forgot about Mario” video, ifykyk -lootstation: hopped on benji for making a “clickbait” title to pull views by calling epic lazy while being a clickbait -evan0saurus: epic game developer that got hurt about the mini event stuff in klarques threads too, called the video clickbait -scyan These are content creators and developers, I understand that they can say whatever they want to say. Yet people’s numbers on tweets and status’s sway all of their fans and followers to attack benji. Why not just listen to critiques and go back to work, these people are adults that sway kids and teens opinion online by ratios. Another thing about the debate, not to sure benji streams as of right now but to drag someone on stream to step all over him with their yes-man. That shit happened to Rylek in season 3, got fucking harassed by klarque’s chat during their debate and another live they had in the zero point podcast was basically ganging up on rhlyek. Dag, Jojo, Clen, klarque vs Rhylek, with the title, “choosing to have fun in Fortnite in s3 with friends” was another instance where the groups gets passive aggressive and attacking rylek for his opinion and then just say at the end of the stream, “yeah all love and support bruh” So. Do all these Fortnite commentating content creators treat eachother with such kindness and amazingness as you say. Idk man the fact that these three all watched the video 3 weeks ago and has been shitting on it since, then All of sudden they never watched it and want to react to it It’s not a reaction, it’s basically an over analysis on an opinion bout a videogame that went too far
@@basedchie4uYOU absolutely fired that person😂. I can't believe there are people who would go out of their way to glaze a content creator who judged another content creators opinion... on a 3 week old video in a comment section🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just let people have their options😂
@@basedchie4uBro Clen critiquing his points is still not harassment. Clen and every other creator made it VERY clear that if ANY of their followers come over to Benji's platform and attacked him they are getting banned immediately. Content creators can't control their audience. They can't just teleport to every single person who leaves a hate comment and stop them. the best they can do is to tell them to not spread hate but you're always going to have thoes people who will still do it anyways that's just how the Internet works. Again how is Clen egotistical??? He's open for discussion that's exactly why he reacted to video he disagrees with because he doesn't live in an echo chamber.
Honestly for me its a mixed bag, ive been playing this game since chapter 1 season 5 when i was in the 9th grade now im in college, ive experienced all the good this game has to offer and all the bad it had to offer, but i do agree that sometimes people do just cry to much like getting things unnecessarily nerfed, and anytime anything new is tried people complain that it deviats to far from the original game, to be fair that happened with the airplanes and mechs back in chapter 1 but it is so much more common place now, sorry if this comes off rude just trying to give my pov 😅
yeh there was no reason to respond to the second klarque comment, if he doesnt want to talk about this stuff on stream then he doesnt need to hes already made that clear although mentioning those creators more is only gonna start up more drama because they will be inclined to make more videos reacting and responding for example clen just made a video reacting to this one also giving those gatekeeper comments attention isnt even worth it those guys dont deserve to be highlighted in a video and its more beneficial to ignore them
I don’t play fortnite with my friends anymore my friend harry I met him in year 8/7 grade i haven’t known him very long bearly a year and a half but he’s one of my best friends he has a old who went to a different sencondary school who only exists to bully me I’ll call him jim if I play fortnite and see that my friends are online jim is always on with them and when I go to school the next day they all pretty much meet ride him whenever he’s brought up saying how funny and cool he is but if I join the party he starts flaming me like there’s no tomorrow until I leave the party and apparently keeps going after I leave
Hello friend I did a reaction on a video of yours and made sure to credit you. I apologize for the hate that you are getting but, you gotta remember that most of these haters are little kids. Kids on the internet talk the most trash as possible. But I hope you have a great day I will try to message you next time about reacting to your video.
Hey the way I see it, your criticizing the game and that perfect, and your doing it in a manor that not rude so thats even better. Criticizing works if its not in a rude manor. I think what would help solidify your opinion is to add alternatives to your case. OVERALL great job
I ate 30 chicken nuggets today, I thought you guys should know
Is that your limit? Just 30 measly Chicken nugs
@@DustGundam I could easily eat triple that but I have 13 pennies to my name 😂
How dare you eat 30 pieces, you should leave some for the rest of us
Not good for you
@@cornfed_corn5628 I will eat more just to spite you
What's the point being "better" and being "Worse" we all have our skills and etc, and we don't have to be bad or good on it!
(We should be grateful for this game and nicer not forcing tho.)
People need to realise toxic positivity isn’t a good thing either. Downplaying criticism isn’t good as it widens issues, there are people who spout hatred with no end goal
But people like Bennji don’t and actively want Fortnite to better itself and become better.
In the end criticism isn’t hatred.
Exactly but there was really nothing wrong with the doom MINI event at all...
@@distraityt it was kinda mid small changes could have made the event more fun tho
@@Thawheedi icl I don't see how it was mid. I feel like people misuse the word mid now...
Like this event was objectively **good** bare minimum, and subjectively it was great
@@distraityt mid to me is somewhere in the middle not bad but could have been better
@@distraityt Disappointing to me
I’m sorry this is happening it’s really stupid how some people act like others don’t exist
As a Team Fortress 2 player, I can say that our community has a similar problem with Toxicity and hate raiding creators. It’s caused a problems and has divided our game numerous times.
Another thing I find funny, is how drastically different our communities used the term “bot” and yet still hate their presence in the games. Fortnite bots are AI players used to fill lobbies and give inexperienced players a chance to get elims or even wins, and the community doesn’t like them because defeating one feels hollow and like a waste of resources.
TF2 bots, on the other hand, are players controlled by AI that use cheats to flood servers, spread hate speech, and ruin the fun for everyone. It was a crisis that was completely ignored by Valve for FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, until millions of players started a boycott to force Valve to do something, yet we still experience the fallout of this crisis, as Free-to-play players are still muted from voice and text chat, thousands of players have abandoned the game due to the bot crisis, and everyone is still skeptical about if the daily player count is even accurate anymore.
The toxicity is horrible on both sides. You could go in the comment section of a shop video and see a mass of "L shop," even if the shop is good.
A shop being "good" is very subjective tho
@@MarianzYT Same both ways
@@MarianzYTsame with festival's tuesday announcements
@@MarianzYTyeah you’re right on the money dude😂 I own almost everything that’s comes out (I like collecting skins) and whenever there’s nothing new I kind of just drag it through the mud not realizing that not everyone has all the items that return to the shop.
yeah, the only time i think a shop isn't good is when they barely add anything and most of it is the same shit that's been there for weeks. if they actually add things to the shop i won't say it's bad, even if i personally don't like the items in there.
Toxicity, homophobia & racism. (severity depends on platform)
Real like I’m borderline pro and COULD make money but I feel like I’ll just be clowned on cus I’m gay lol
and so many of them are kids. it's sad. kids are so goddamn impressionable and when they're on fortnite that shit is ALL they hear, so they think it's cool and start doing it too.
As someone who enjoys Fortnite but isn’t a hardcore fan here’s my take on the community from what I’ve seen
The community just seems really spoiled sometimes like they ask for one thing, they get it, then act like they never asked for it.
There also is 2 very different sides too the community
One side will absolutely defend epic with their lives no matter how horrible their decisions are
The other will hate on epic games with every single piece of their existence no matter there decisions
There is very few who actually are in the middle.
Fortnite ever since chapter 4 started has been horrible for me too play the only seasons i enjoyed where
OG, ch4 season 2, ch5 season 3 (only because of reload), ch5 season 4 (the best season in a very long while for me),
Another community that acts spoiled is the cod community they ask for something, get it, then complain about it..
Obviously cod is in very bad state right now but you get what I mean
I’ve seen what happened too one of my favorite brs (apex legends) get utterly ruined cause of the amount of yes men just not holding EA/respawn accountable
I’ve also seen stuff like cod warzone be ruined because of people being too nitpicking about it (also because of infinity wars and Activision)
So ya that’s my take on it…
me personally, I think that it's not toxicity as much as it's an absence of the same love for the game and an excess of ambition, pride, and/or love for one self. trying so hard to suck up to competitive nerds and Epic that you end up never truly caring for the game itself and therefore never loving it as a product.
Unironically I don’t even think it’s just the pro scene. Because if you’ve seen the mention user by bennji these lot are exactly the most pro friendly.
However, these lot still act like have a toxic positive mindset. Overall it doesn’t matter if you are a pro or a casual, criticism isn’t hatred.
Absolutely well said bro, it makes me sad that people don’t have the same love for the game as the rest of us, these other ‘certain TH-camrs’ do not care for the game AT ALL depending on who you look at, some of them always say yes to everything and kiss epics feet but benjii is different that’s what I like about benjii cause he’s straight to the point and other creators don’t like what he has to say whether it’s game related or his opinions on what should change in the community. I got to give it to benjii for being more of a bigger person than these Fortnite drama channels with no moral compass especially when they didn’t even ask to react to his content.
I don’t agree that epic sucks up to competitive “nerds”, if anything they cater to casuals way more. If they actually did cater to competitive , then we would not keep getting crazy items in the game, especially in competitive. Their haven’t been a single season that epic games actually catered to competitive over catering to the casual player base.
@@Jordanthecool7 yeah but sometimes the 'pros' complain about an item that makes the season what it is for example the hover jets got nerfed multiple times because the pro scene and some content creators lose to other players using it and assume its broken instead of realizing that you can't win every game you go into. I remember this one guy said the 'pros' would rather complain and ask for change instead of just changing how they play and finding ways to combat said issues. (it wasn't to that effect but I'm paraphrasing).
@@Biggielol. to be fair, pros do change how they play to combat the issue , but that doesn’t make the items not overpowered , that’s why they still complain because they still actually want change. Also to add context, a lot of things seem like they aren’t op because the average player isn’t that good , so they often somehow still loose with these items . But if you put these things in the hand of anyone even decent at the game, these items would be extremely overpowered with little to no counter’s . That’s why I say they should just separate the casual and competitive loot-pools, cause it’s unfair to both sides to have whatever is added or changed in game effect both modes. Pros have to deal with op items in ranked/comp, and casuals have to deal with fun items getting nerfed .
Just wanna say don’t change what you do. It’s refreshing to see a take that aligns with my feelings. I think you are very well grounded and I hope for nothing but big things for you and this channel.
Wait, are you the TH-camr that mentioned klarque over his video and comment on your video?
Yeah klarque and other like clen are some of the few mentioned here.
Honestly agree.
I really hate the way Fortnite has gone with balancing.
Op weapons with little to no ways to combat them.
There’s op weapons which can be balanced BECAUSE they have things that combat them
But these newer weapons are just so powerful the one way to combat them is just having pro style aim.
And as a casual. I don’t have time for to become a pro.
Some people give me a sideways look when I say this but, I think wrecked was fine when it came to its vehicles.
Now this is not me saying at the beginning of the season they were great because they really weren't. They were overtuned with no real counters. But by the middle of the Season we had so many ways to counter vehicles or even just say nuh-uh to them. It's just a lot of those items that were meant to drop with the season, didn't drop with the season. (I mean we didn't get the minigun until the last week of the season) this season the jetpack has maintained its place at the top of the viability board. To the point that it's been nerfed several different times and still maintains that slot.
And the fact you can combine so many different levels of Mobility with said jetpack, I'd argue this is the most versatile Mobility item in the entire game.
@@Keeneye47_Wolfkeen yep.. wrecked had counters sometime through.
But the Jetpack.. it’s only counter. Is the Jetpack.
Fr. Jetpack and Auto aim turrets are so annoying as f to deal with, That I didn't even touch br for weeks into a month now.
@@Therapist_Demoman yeah and when they tried to add the EMP grenades and the Stark assault kit, they didn't realize, "wait a minute, the jetpack actually works well with the Stark assault kit and EMP grenades". So what was supposed to be the "counter" ended up making the jetpack even more versatile.
@Keeneye47_Wolfkeen Epic really needs to add counters to the season's gimmick items at the start instead of drip feeding it throughout the entire season
I think I first played fortnight in ch3 season 2. No builds was in, running and sliding was in. Og was fun but with zero build not having movement was a drag!
ill just say this as concisely as possible
OG fortnite is a good thing, it enables a fresh experience for new players, and nostalgia for old players
exclusivity on the other hand, is a bad thing -- it creates a weird sense of 'taboo' on items returning and a sense of superiority that has no place in a E10+ game. let stuff return, let people buy what they want. the only people that care are people that seek either artificial value, or seek to sell their accounts. me personally?? id love for people to be able to buy old favorites like omega or drift. i hope they enjoy them as much as i once did. i had several years to enjoy them and have moved on to other skins. its not heinous to allow others that same privilege.
People with common sense be like:
Thx for saying this
honestly bro. it makes things like illegal account buying and epic keeps bringing back exclusives on accident lately so just get rid of it entirely and give us a shop with every item in the game with rotating discounts or something
But why?? It's literally a free to play game, that has been popular for years, there's way to earn battlepasses for free. This is something that would absolutely kill the game for so many players. Yes, I want my exclusive skins that I bought a year ago under the pretense that it was an exclusive battlepass skin only avaliable in that season to STAY as an old battlepass skin, it's literally the entire appeal. If you didn't get it, you didn't get it. This isn't a buy old favourites, this is epic being a greedy corporate shell chasing profits and selling back old content to their playerbase. It's a malicious and disgusting business practice. This is without even ackowle3dging the fact that Drift and omega have COUNTLESS shops variants that have followed since their release.
No.
It isn't about artificial value, I don't sell my account because I have rust lord, or Drift. These are reminders and cosmetic symbols of my loyality and dedication to playing the game, why would I want that resold years later after promised that it would stay exclusive?
@@dough8869 i understand your passion and loyalty as a long-time player, and I understand the significance that exclusivity holds for OG players, even if its a small majority. i, like yourself, value the unique appeal of exclusive cosmetics, but it’s also worth noting that the majority of players are not as invested in this exclusivity. a significant portion of the player base is open to the idea of older content being reintroduced, as they wish to engage with the game more fully. this shift can foster a more inclusive environment, allowing newer players to experience the same content and excitement as those who have been around longer.
the decision to reintroduce certain exclusive items can often be seen as a strategic move to rejuvenate player interest and engagement. for instance, in the case of halo infinite, the developers have successfully implemented mechanisms that allow for both new and returning players to access a wider array of content. by reintroducing older items, they have managed to not only maintain player satisfaction but also attract a broader audience. This has had a positive impact on the game's community, providing opportunities for players to enjoy a rich and diverse selection of cosmetics that reflect both new and legacy content.
i understand that you feel strongly about your exclusive skins and the promise made regarding their availability, but it’s essential to recognize that the gaming landscape is ever-evolving. developers often face the challenge of balancing the desires of long-term players with the need to attract and retain new players. the introduction of older items can serve as a valuable means to achieve this balance, fostering a more robust community.
ultimately, i empathize your concerns about corporate practices and the perception of greed when it comes to monetizing content. however, the reality is that fortnite is a business, and epic games must find ways to sustain themselves while also catering to their audience. at the end of the day, the goal is to create a game that serves both the loyal player base and new entrants, ensuring that everyone feels valued and included.
i hope that this broadens your perspective
1v1 maps is peak toxicity
Its not ungratefull to say that Fortnite had systems that were probably better, and we dont *have* to be thankful they still "do things" while it might have been better if they didnt change it
Problem with your entire video structure about klarque and this is your picking a very one sided topic where if your on the side on exclusivity, the person defending will always lose. You used klarques worst stance he could possibly take and gave your run down on his channel structure
Poor example of character used to give your take. Then you disengage any further content revealing other sides of him unknown. As someone who takes his takes greatly I'd be pretty pressed myself. To be labeled and not have what I wanna say regurgitated back
To use all these terms and words on klarque is ironic when you skip forward in video and your rock glossing layo 🥶😭. Thing is none of yall small fortnite channels are any different from one another. Which makes this all laughable. The structure the thumbnails all being similar. The excessive double standard. While writing this i went to your epic video and 3m in your already displaying this double standard. Overtime is done better than in previous seasons, as all things these "fortnite bad, do better" videos tend to name. The bonus lvls are legit new, *meaningful* things. Something your 120 items from the previous battle pass is not. Meaningless additions which only affect systems tied to those old seasons with xp boosters. I won't go on as imma just go to that vudeo and continue there. Let me see if your takes are worth something if all this drama spurred. Lets see if your takes are any better
To be frank you creators love your inner dramas so i wont speak on how you felt when they reacted to your content or the behavior associated with them. But remember this is a fortnite channel thing, none of yalls videos are positive. No ones gonna react to some save the world video, none. Its as rocket league is to fortnite, a sacrificed mode. Besides not to mention uninteresting. It contributes nothing to metaverse then and wont any more later. Its purposeless in regards to the meta initiative
No one likes whiners who closes down conversation but thinks others will care what they say
thats a lot of typing
@@Bennjipieyour video scripts are way longer my friend 😭. gonna cry about save the world more?
@@Bennjipie yeah probably to many words for your short attention span.
@@Bennjipie Ngl benji I feel a bit bad for you 😭. All these creators jumping in and chiming. Never knew it'd get this massive. I hope you continue uploading cause if it was me I'd be crashing out at all this. Plus I'd be lying if I wasn't enjoying these Fortnite bad videos. Wouldn't want you to leave the scene
@@QuestAccepteryr weird
So you also saw recent Noodle video lol? I know how much of a spiral hate can be, and it takes courage to admit when you're wrong. While I was not a fan of how you laid out your points in your other videos, I do agree that Epic can do better. It is important for content creators to be vocal about issues and not blindly agree with Epic.
I wish you nothing but the best in your content creator journey, and I'm excited to see what's next. 👍
No matter what season Fortnite is in all will have flaws
He didnt put your video in the description cause he didnt want you to get hate
then it shouldn't have been a hateful vid lol
@@Bennjipie when you are hateful, people respond with hate. grow up
@@Bennjipie it wasn't hateful at all. did you even watch it or pay attention to anything in the video? lol
@@Bennjipiehow was it hateful? I didn't watch thw video and I will since I'm uninformed but I watch clen and klarque and they both seem to be very respectful people. I don't think clen would be hateful towards you
@@zumbapui9653I really don't wanna come across as hating on benji I just think he's playing the victim. Why are youtubers not allowed to react to your content? He says he's not opposed to differing opinions but then he gatekeeps people doing so? It's cool if he doesn't wanna talk to clen or klarque but then just let it go, don't gotta make a whole video about it
You’re being a bit over dramatic. I’m not subbed to any of those guys but I don’t think they’re actively sending their viewers after you
Creators don't have control over their viewers, but what they do have control is discussing it in public
@@despacitoking237I like this dude's content but isn't that a bit hypocritical regardless of sub counts?
@@Raddish-Is-Radd lol maybe idk I mainly see the three creators' subs attacking him tho
This beef is only you pls leave clen klarque alone they meant nothing they only wanted to say hey i dissagree but im glad your putting your opinion to your viewers. So pls just stop also they arnt trying to be a pet to epic they want to be a epic partner to say hey this isnt a good change and im not being rude because i came from clen but im just saying they meant nothing
I mean it's not a surprise that this community is toxic tbh 🤷♂️
thing is people want fortnite to go back to it's roots,
Or to go back to the og graphics or og weapon models
But im sorry but who wants that back? We as a community need to understand, og it isn't coming back permanently
That's in the past, sure I had really fun memories but I accepted that fortnite is changing and the graphics look alot better. Im tired of people using the argument, oh it doesn't feel like fortnite or oh fortnite doesn't care about it's players and doesn't listen. But has the community thought for a second and used their brain?
Complaining 247 isn't gonna work, especially doxing or harassing the devs that's just gonna make it worse, people need to be respectful and greatful for what epic has given us over the years, they easily could've made the game stick to chapter 1 season 1 but no they improved and gave us so much content over the past 7 years.
Most of the good parts are og can be remade because it was new and special
Maybe because it’s better u clown 🤡🐷
I mean, technically, Reload is a permanent OG season
Sorry you gotta deal with that mate, idk if its my hearing something but it seemed you sounded sick (hell maybe tired) i hope you feel better.
The problem with this video is that they are doing the same thing your doing giving some criticism on your vid they didn’t pull a sniper wolf and not do anything while reacting to it. Also I like how you bring up the TH-camr has a child and is a grown man he is 26 he can do what he wants on TH-cam even though he may be in his 20’s that doesn’t mean he can’t make content, and with your argument with Klarque he gave you the opportunity if you ever change your mind
You good mate? You seem more pissed then anyone.
@@mobthewolf7645fr like blud wrote a whole essay💀
@@droomkoning3266 mhm
@@mobthewolf7645No it’s simply called stating an opinion. By your logic you seem pretty mad. And I mean I could be pretty mad but I’m not but he’s saying there toxic for doing what he’s doing, giving criticism. Benji didn’t really give criticism actually. Just personal stuff he thinks should happen in the epic games is lazy video.
@@droomkoning3266A essay is usually atleast 3 paragraphs I have one. And even if I did that doesn’t mean I’m mad, that means by your logic if you write an essay you’re mad. Which that is not true.
What is TH-cam add-on did u use? Thing that shows another people subscribers counter
Vidiq vision, its on google
watching the whole video my thoughts would be that you don't need to give into these people just because you're making good criticisms about the game, they're making drama for no reason.
How I describe the community
-toxic
-complain
-ungrateful
-spolied
i dont understand what u get out of hating on someone
Clen was nothing but respectful to you when he really didn't have to be after you lied about everyone's character. I'm shocked he's extending a hand to talk and now I'm really reading you just say "no" lol
Clint is very toxic, I don't hate him as a person, and I do watch his content from time to time, but he is a total hypocrite. I don't know if he still has that view or not ,but one time, I commented on his video (I can't remember) that down a lot of criticism towards epic, and I mentioned he was being toxicly positivity. He attacked me and his audience for giving an example like apex how their fan base went down because they weren't fixing their problems and criticisms
Bro on the stream of him and his friend reacting to Benji's vid they go in on him while barely even hearing him out💀
I thought you were talking about klarque clint, but it was clen. Sorry lol totally a different person 😭
They did hear him out tho? Most of Benji's criticisms just either nit picks or changes he personally did not like. They literally pointed out that his points would be fine if the video was titled things he didn't like about Fortnite. But he's trying to say epic games is lazy because they make updates that OBJECTIVELY take effort to do but saying it's lazy just because he PERSONALLY doesn't like it. That's the problem with his video as they pointed out. Seems to me like you didn't completely hear out all of JoJo's and Clen's point.
@@HolyAura7 blud you think I wouldn't recognize you or is this a coincidence
To be honest, you are exactly what you’re going against in this video….
"I would like to be proven wrong" buddy... clen did that and now we are here.
Finish the video and you are literally saying someone is not credible cause they have a child, show a comment of someone being nice and say it's rude
im saying they are grown men, grown enough to be a now father
@@Bennjipie also saying they want to be epic partners when there already epic partners is crazy also you should know they don't dick ride the game they have so many videos talking about the issues with the game
@@Bennjipie talk about being rude to clen
@@Bennjipie You do realise that bringing someone's child and parenthood into argument about a game is a horrible thing to do and is something that a Twitter user would do.
You didn't need to take it so personally. Ignoring what you said towards others and avoiding them isn't helping your case.
Trust me, the siege community is much worse.. 😔
i wish siege was getting better
COD Zombies community is getting up there now
I was in their community, still am actually lol yeah especially if you play comp😂
Targeting someone outside of a game over a cosmetic is outlandish and sad, which is why I think epic will bring back the passes because stuff like this can’t continue man. Notice how they’re willing to bully others and play twitter lawyer to try and defend their skin and emotes lol if this doesn’t open epic’s eyes then idk what will.
Great video bro, you have one of the greatest communities on this game imo🤝🏻💯
Hi Bennjiepie I am a regular viewer of Clen's. I just wanted to come and say I've been watching him for a long time and he's a really positive person. He probably genuinely wants to put this under the bridge. I think it would be cool to see you two actually collab after all this. I will subscribe to your channel. Hopefully this all gets settled!
im not collabing with any of those creators
@@Bennjipie I don’t think they actively told there viewers to hate on you one of them even said to subscribe to you. I hope this all gets resolved. And me personally your response is just not how I would respond
@@Bennjipie That's just sad. Grow up.
@@BennjipieDawg why say this to a positive comment💀
@Bennjipie you aint got no clout lad
So you want TH-camrs to put your name and your video description in their video. however! You blocked the names of the TH-camrs you are talking about...
the reason why fortnite content creators or TH-camrs in general block names and say "certain TH-camr" so people don't harass you!
sometimes it doesn't work and people can easily find your video, but still they are respecting you
It could be a script error like what you said
they say certain youtuber but the name of the video is clearly out there. and i blocked the names but the ones who know who they are can find little bits of them.
@@Bennjipiehere the problem is it doesn't make any sense. You block the name so people don't get harassed (that's the whole point of blocking names) but when somebody does the exact same thing to you, you have a problem with it.
Like I understand what you're saying but for safety measures it's good to not have your name out there all the time
"these players dont agree with me so they dont care wbuut fortnite and just want money"
not what i said at all LOL
@@BennjipieKinda was
@@Bennjipiethat is literally what you said bro
it..really isn't what he said at all but...alr...
trying to make him sound stupid but you're the one who sounds stupid
This is exactly how to not to respond to something like this, you just like a big crybaby. It’s embarrassing 😂
Average fortnight meat rider
Just discovered this channel.
I love your content (I know this is kinda unrelated to the video's subject matter itself) but I hope you keep makin' more!
The reason i didnt start playing fortnite for 5 years was simply because of the community. I hated the idea of playing with a toxic fanbase. I kinda regret that decision now, but you simply cant have your own opinion in some games.
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I was in the stream with one of those creators. They did not do that. They were inviting you so you could speak your mind on your video. They were trained to give you a cut phone to explain yourself
bro ignore the haters all of the videos you made that ive seen have great hooks and opinions with arguments behind them keep going
I appreciate that homie
yeah good job bro atleast we getting a real life event at the end of the season and season og was kinda bad
@@Ayyoissacoh pick me trying to be different ahh comment
@@AnythingLounge of course you reported it
hahahh i reported you back
Nah forget the Fortnite toxicity, my boy is on fire in that reload match goddamn!
"the sky is blue"
The water is red
You know the doctor doom event was bad when doombot does more damage
Rember it was a mini but I do agree also would have been better if doom had triple the health
@@Transchemicalwater bro still expect an event where we fighting something for it to fight back not fail around his health was fine the problem was his damage as it was practically just shooting simulator idc if it was a mini event it didn’t feel like a event at all
@@Raid_runner yeah he basically threw water on us
@@Transchemicalwater mf was really hitting us with mt dew
@@Raid_runner glorified green piss
Ayyy almost at 14k keep it up dude!
I've never seen someone so full of himself lol this guy actually said that any opinion different from his is wrong nah that's crazy
@@kukublack basically klarque in a nutshell
@@despacitoking237 ?
@@kukublack what?
@@despacitoking237 I wasn't talking about klarque
@@kukublack oh
Bringing someone’s child into your Fortnite drama is wildly immature.
Right? When I first stumbled upon this I was on his side but after watching clen and klarques sides I don't agree with this video.
He didn’t bring up his kid
@themagicalagent1 care to elaborate on how he brought the child specifically into the drama? Becaus the only mention of a child is in the middle of him telling us not to go harass the other people mentioned in the video.
4:20 - 5:10 btw
@@danisinkstain8533one mention I feel like he wasn’t trying to make her into it but just to remind people that clens a father
Ohhhh, well I see now.
The good the bad the ugly Fortnite is warzone
Sorry, but you’re not doing yourself any favors by giving those toxic comments and dms attention. You’re just giving them what they exactly wanted; a reaction.
Learn to ignore pointless hate comments that don’t even feature a valid criticism. You’ll look immature if you don’t.
i do, its the harrassment, idc about ppl hating me. its about the ppl who take it too far, its about content creators not being better with their community
@@Bennjipie I understand where you’re coming from, but this is simply how the internet works unfortunately.
There will always be internet users that will harass you for no reason, and it isn’t cool. But simply calling out these random trolls and giving them attention will NOT stop all the harassment, it will just add more fuel to the fire, giving them more of a reason to harass you.
That’s why the majority of content creators always ignore nasty comments/dms.
If you can’t do that, then I think you’re simply not cut out to being one. Good luck.
You used a random comment that definitely wasnt true about someones fake cancer story to downplay the argument towards exclusivity, you are disingenious and thats manipulative
its used as an example because there are sadly people who act like that
@@Bennjipie you took some random commenter as fact and used it to peddle your opinion lmao
and when i showed it, I said theres a chance that this isnt real
@@Bennjipie youre cherry picking random retard comments to dismiss genuine arguments lmao YOU yourself are toxic af mate
@@Bennjipie but by showing that and displaying that as the opposing opinion it sways people inherently because of the sensitive nature
Taking a video game personally is kinda wild man
well when its about me then yes why wouldnt why i react?
Yeah bro thats kind of stupid. Hes making 100% correct points that mfs are being immature online
@@SirBaconThe3rd428 He unnecessarily brought someone's kid into this for no reason and claimed he "respectfully declined the offer." In reality, he didn’t respond at all, even though what Klarque said was nice and had good intentions. Benji twisted it into something completely different to fit his own narrative. Instead of addressing it properly, he made a video discrediting Klarque's character, despite barely knowing him. Benji got defensive for no fucking reason and is the one acting immature. He showed absolutely no evidence that they were hate raiding him, and they never even mentioned sending hate to his channel. Maybe before running your mouth, do some fucking research and hear both sides. instead of blindly agreeing with him.
@@Bennjipie I meant in general lol.
Why you going into his personal life and talking about his kid
When I hate something in fortnite, I don't hate it. I just find it annoying. People should learn that players are humans. And of course, Humans make mistakes.
Yeah. It's not the game's problem. It's the type of people like this
bro js ignore the haters every community is toxic ur such a good youtuber im always "the 1 hour gng"
this isnt going to be a issue for me forever, i just wanted to make this video and leave it at that
Sad to see Klarque doing stuff like this I'd never thought I would see him commenting this way
Clen is a conformist but sometimes does criticize important stuff, but it's the minority of the times.
Layo is the goat and you should collab with him
Nice vid, and keep it going people is going to complain anyways
Clen is cool.
Expected from Klarque after all his past beef, dislike that guy ngl
@@DUCK.aka.Red.on.Twitterwhy do you dislike him
clen my goat
Yeaj clen hid my comment bcse it was the top comment and bcse i criticised him😂😂
I’m going to be honest, I don’t think Klarque is being hateful to you. I think he was just genuinely saying his feelings about your video. Regarding his pushy-ness to getting you on stream, he is just doing it to get himself more attention, it’s the same thing he did with pro FN players. Having two opposing sides in one stream is good for engagement. If I were in your situation I would want to join the stream, but I’m saying that as a fan of his content. Having promotion between a bigger creator and a smaller creator makes dead subs that won’t watch your videos. You made a good choice.
woah he hearted this comment? hmmm maybe something is changing after the responses.
@@zumbapui9653 maybe it's because is actually supportive than hateful like most of klarque's audience
Sorry if it feel like I'm hating too much, but I watched klarque's video about bennji and it was terriblely bad faith
i love how you're just figuring this out
im not, im putting it into words for others to also understand
@@Bennjipie i see ur point
@@Sidaksingh26 lol nice response
5:25 Please let me know if I’m wrong but I think what you just said was if a content creator says an opinion that’s not on line yours then all they care about is money. That’s just how I interpreted it.
nah nah, im saying if they dismiss all criticism from Layo's video then they dont actually care for Fortnite
I don't think that people that reacted to your video where trying to be mean or trying to put there community against you i think they just wanted to give there opinion. But if because of that you get hated on that is not cool and they should do something. But look the more hate you get the stronger you will be (im not saying that hate is good) but ignore it say what you want its your opinion. Sure people can argue like i did with the "fortnite is lazy" video but i didn't insult you or nothing like that and people that insulted you are kinda not cool
I'm one those players I become toxic because Fortnite does the dumbest stuff
No matter what they say you are a lot of peoples favourite fortnite content creator
It’s sad how mean people can be
Benji literally brought Clen's child into a arguement about Fortnite. How is this even close to being mean Benji when he is straight up misconstruing what kind people they are.
Benji literally talks about how they are making money from their content like it's a bad thing. The hypocrisy here is Benji is as well, albeit in a worse way by making drama video about someone, not even censoring their names properly in the video and bringing a child into an argument. The video was incredibly distasteful.
Alr here’s an opinion I’m average at Fortnite and Fortnite is fun it has its moments and is also bad at times and for people out there who hate settle your daddy issues with your dad not random people
Youre putting out your videos to the internet for anyone to watch. People can react to stuff as long as its transformative.
Respect for the Zelda music throughout the video. Straight fire 🔥
I think turbo building was a shitty decision because it made the game more competitive and epic continued to go that route. Ive been absolutely flamed for it , people say “oh you just joined fortnite more recently” or “your just bad”. But aside from not playing chapter 3, I’ve been here since chapter 1 season 3, and its sad to see the community is all about “only having fun when im winning”, ranked, edits, and being super sweaty
I also find the casual side frustrating as if you dare say something needs a nerf or have a problem in some corners you will be walking with tomato stains
@@Thawheedifr
Me when I see the title: No sh*t
Clen claims to be the nicest player in the community when it’s not true at all lol he just glazes epic games and claims he doesn’t
FORTNITE SAVE THE WORLD COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER BUT THEY DECIDED TO STOP GIVING IT MAYOR UPDATES AT THE END SEASON X
WE NEED MORE HALLOWEEN STW SKINS IN BR😭💯🙏
Yea the community really sucks up to epic and hates on anybody that criticizes the game. Ch 5 season 3 is a perfect example, making the people who critique the season look like "babies" who cant "adapt" (even though nobody can adapt better than comp players)
Just ignore them and keep up making the good content brah🤞its good to see people who genuinely love the game be worried about the current state of the game
i want the cars back so bad man
@@Strashky why lol
@@Johndavis0097 me too but without the turret of course
Bro you did not respectfully decline Klarque's invitation, you have to stop thinking of yourself so highly because the way you responded to a single comment from another youtuber saying that while they disagreeded they still enjoyed your video did not demonstrate you to be an open-minded individual. Also it just feels like a lot of your points are just deflections instead of actual critique like bringing save the world into the conversation even though it has no relevancy to the controversy at all. (Also I'm not believing that you saying OG fortnite was bad was a scripting error that's just stupid)
I thought your pfp was Batman.
6:26
You too, Have a good day/night ❤
I would write more about my perspective to your channel and fortnite but its quite late for me at the moment.
The only thing I can say now: I discovered your channel few days ago and I love it. I love your content, keep it up ❤
Honestly first time seeing your videos I thought you were like ThunderBuddy29 who hates everything new added and only complains but man then I watched a lot of your other videos and I gotta say you are like a light at the end of the dark tunnel. 🙏
Speaking of toxicity, I recently unsubbed from SinX6 after he failed to properly inform his community the reason for Fortnitemares' 2024 delay. The reason for the delay was because after a deadly hurricane hit Epic's HQ in Carolina, they lost power, and a lot of their employee's lives were put in mortal danger.
When he made a video taking about the updates' delay, he completely glossed over this fact and used only a Tweet from the official Fortnite status account as evidence which didn't even mention the reasoning. For someone who claims to be on top of everything about the game, he sure didn't seem to have the lives of innocent people in mind.
And the worst part, his audience just took this at face value and tried to argue that Epic delayed the update deliberately. This alone just says everything you need to know about the people who play this game, they value digital cosmetics, pixels, on a screen more than the lives of real living people. Epic Games could announce they would take a break from development out of respect for a passed individual, and the only thing their player base would have to say in response would be "But what about my free rewaaaaaaaard?"
The problem is with bringing back old skins, battlepasses, and stuff meant to be exclusive, is impossible. The companys want their skins to be limited time, if you didn't get it, they dont give a fuck, they're gonna reskin it anyway. If fortnite brought back old passes with Marvel, DC, Transformers, or any skins in those categories, they could get sued.
I like hearing your opinions. While don’t agree with some of your opinions I like hearing others people views on the game. Because criticism (that is constructive) can lead to good change
Bruh watching ur gameplay just makes me wanna play reload
My worry is when yhe inevitble happens and for ite is either shutdown or they move on for fortnite 2 what gappens to all thestuff ive either earned or yet to eant
Its a voice that nags my mind reminding me my money wont be returning
The Fortnite discord server is toxic asfuck.
Crazy how you're choosing to target specific people regarding "toxicity", when there's like a goldmine of toxicity between casual and competitive players.
Like, when the jet packs got vaulted earlier today, people were senselessly blaming competitive players. Same with the chainsaw adjustment yesterday.
Not to mention, an Epic dev got called slurs and sent death threats over tournaments being put on hold/canceled on Sunday.
Not to mention, the specific people you criticized (and vice verse) wanted to reach out to you or just outright defuse the situation, yet you chose to keep this cycle going.
The community is very toxic I agree , 1 thing I would like to say though is that it often times is also casual players who are very toxic. They can be just as, if not more toxic than the “sweats”. If your even decent at the game you get tons of insults like “ touch grass “ , “ take a shower “, ect. The casuals then say that the game caters to competitive when epic adds crazy things every season (even in competitive modes) that the competitive players clearly don’t like . If there’s something clearly op then if you say anything about it needing to be nerfed your seen as a cry baby or they say “ just get good “ even though they are the same people who complain about the “sweatiness“. I do admit the competitive players can also be toxic, but not as much as casuals. Not enough people call out the casual community in the game for also being toxic , and not just competitive. My solution to everything is to 1 - make competitive as balanced as possible , 2 - make casual modes as fun as possible , and just keep the loot pool and meta’s separate from each other
Let me take a guess who one of "the three" is
Klarque
as much as i love klarque he does ALOT of these drama reaction videos so i wasnt surprised
very surprised about clen though, hes one of if not the most positive fortnite creator i've seen, and not to the point of "toxic positivity" since he does criticize the game alot when its needed
5:13 you didn’t pick up the mythic flopper 😔
for zero builds it doesnt 1 tap so i didnt wanna be downed bc of it lol
@@Bennjipie oh I forgot
@Bennjipie but... golden fish trophy!
I'm being silly here, I do agree it would be just a handicap.
@Bennjipie I could have swore it one tap on Zero Build release of Reload
@@Bennjipie I was like “ pick it up,pick it up”
Fortnite did take all the toxic people from call of duty
The language you use in this video is no different from your other videos. Going off your recent ‘criticisms’ against Fortnite i shouldn’t be surprised that the ‘harassment’ you’re claiming these creators are doing are also completely overblown.
None of the examples you’ve shown can be interpreted as harassment or that they’re actively sending their fan base to attack you. The video of yours Jojo tweeted about and other recent videos of yours used language like “Epic clearly doesn’t care anymore” and “Epic can’t change and won’t change”. So yes, it is fine for him to use your video as an example of you being wrong even if you didn’t mention seasonal events specifically because you meant the overall game and direction it was heading. That creator not linking your video on stream and that other creator asking you twice to debate you, really? These come off as annoyances, not harassment. Can you name an instance of their fans actively going out of their way to target you instead of random hate comments that most creators will always receive for critizing a popular game.
Sure I can happily share everytime Benji has been poked at…
So for the people that responded to jojo’s tweet knocking down benji
-Clen: his “reaction”, the many instances of passive aggressiveness in every video about “epic is lazy, epic doesn’t care” since benji uploaded 3 weeks ago
-Tedesco: compared it to “Nintendo forgot about Mario” video, ifykyk
-lootstation: hopped on benji for making a “clickbait” title to pull views by calling epic lazy while being a clickbait
-evan0saurus: epic game developer that got hurt about the mini event stuff in klarques threads too, called the video clickbait
-scyan
These are content creators and developers, I understand that they can say whatever they want to say. Yet people’s numbers on tweets and status’s sway all of their fans and followers to attack benji.
Why not just listen to critiques and go back to work, these people are adults that sway kids and teens opinion online by ratios.
Another thing about the debate, not to sure benji streams as of right now but to drag someone on stream to step all over him with their yes-man. That shit happened to Rylek in season 3, got fucking harassed by klarque’s chat during their debate and another live they had in the zero point podcast was basically ganging up on rhlyek.
Dag, Jojo, Clen, klarque vs Rhylek, with the title, “choosing to have fun in Fortnite in s3 with friends” was another instance where the groups gets passive aggressive and attacking rylek for his opinion and then just say at the end of the stream, “yeah all love and support bruh”
So. Do all these Fortnite commentating content creators treat eachother with such kindness and amazingness as you say. Idk man the fact that these three all watched the video 3 weeks ago and has been shitting on it since, then All of sudden they never watched it and want to react to it
It’s not a reaction, it’s basically an over analysis on an opinion bout a videogame that went too far
@@basedchie4uYOU absolutely fired that person😂. I can't believe there are people who would go out of their way to glaze a content creator who judged another content creators opinion... on a 3 week old video in a comment section🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just let people have their options😂
@@basedchie4u get a life 🤡🐷
@@BustedBoilers u smell 🤡🐷
@@basedchie4uBro Clen critiquing his points is still not harassment. Clen and every other creator made it VERY clear that if ANY of their followers come over to Benji's platform and attacked him they are getting banned immediately. Content creators can't control their audience. They can't just teleport to every single person who leaves a hate comment and stop them. the best they can do is to tell them to not spread hate but you're always going to have thoes people who will still do it anyways that's just how the Internet works.
Again how is Clen egotistical??? He's open for discussion that's exactly why he reacted to video he disagrees with because he doesn't live in an echo chamber.
Honestly for me its a mixed bag, ive been playing this game since chapter 1 season 5 when i was in the 9th grade now im in college, ive experienced all the good this game has to offer and all the bad it had to offer, but i do agree that sometimes people do just cry to much like getting things unnecessarily nerfed, and anytime anything new is tried people complain that it deviats to far from the original game, to be fair that happened with the airplanes and mechs back in chapter 1 but it is so much more common place now, sorry if this comes off rude just trying to give my pov 😅
Womp womp you reap what you sow
I wouldn’t even respond to these losers
yeh there was no reason to respond to the second klarque comment, if he doesnt want to talk about this stuff on stream then he doesnt need to hes already made that clear although mentioning those creators more is only gonna start up more drama because they will be inclined to make more videos reacting and responding for example clen just made a video reacting to this one
also giving those gatekeeper comments attention isnt even worth it those guys dont deserve to be highlighted in a video and its more beneficial to ignore them
W comment
why did bros voice change in 3 weeks
i was probably sick
Alr
I don’t play fortnite with my friends anymore my friend harry I met him in year 8/7 grade i haven’t known him very long bearly a year and a half but he’s one of my best friends he has a old who went to a different sencondary school who only exists to bully me I’ll call him jim if I play fortnite and see that my friends are online jim is always on with them and when I go to school the next day they all pretty much meet ride him whenever he’s brought up saying how funny and cool he is but if I join the party he starts flaming me like there’s no tomorrow until I leave the party and apparently keeps going after I leave
Preach brother 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Hello friend I did a reaction on a video of yours and made sure to credit you. I apologize for the hate that you are getting but, you gotta remember that most of these haters are little kids. Kids on the internet talk the most trash as possible. But I hope you have a great day I will try to message you next time about reacting to your video.
you're good, just putting it in the description or something is okay, plus the hate doesn't get to me. i Just know it should be addressed
Hey the way I see it, your criticizing the game and that perfect, and your doing it in a manor that not rude so thats even better. Criticizing works if its not in a rude manor. I think what would help solidify your opinion is to add alternatives to your case. OVERALL great job