Diamond 13 Patch Origins

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  • What Does The Diamond 13 Mean? The "13" on the patch stood for the Top 13 "Outlaw" motorcycle clubs in Southern California, the Top 13 outlaw racing clubs were awarded the patch and a trophy. The diamond patch shape was used because it already stood for the anti-AMA movement and it was AMA who used the term 99% of bikers are law abiding.
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  • @DemonsRow
    @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

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    • @bigd9401
      @bigd9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      #Ghostin Sanford nc

    • @crimsonhawk4912
      @crimsonhawk4912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How come the black mc's have the best looking bikes.
      #Ghostin

    • @PeteyPablo408
      @PeteyPablo408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's up with that Skull Mascara You be sporting that shit is SIC where can I get one of those?

    • @12lionwhelps71
      @12lionwhelps71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 13 should be the universal unity patch

    • @joshuataft5541
      @joshuataft5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a new sub...I apriciate the info.. the last thing I want is disrespecting other riders..I'm not in a club but I respect those who are. I do o ow you never pass a club in a group and roughly about activities and patches but that's it... thanx .be safe out there

  • @davidfrancis6947
    @davidfrancis6947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    historically it refers to the fact that there's 13 loops in the knot of a hanging noose and 13 steps on a proper gallows. the symbolism then is the wearer will hang before they betray their brothers

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      👊👊👊

    • @trevorjarvis3050
      @trevorjarvis3050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yep... this is the story I heard decades ago, from a cop. It was inked on his right forearm.

    • @robbieking2671
      @robbieking2671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      13 knots 13 steps it's illegal in a lot of states to possess a noose with 13 knots in it, least that's what I was told by a county sheriff deputy when I was a teenager...

    • @trevorjarvis3050
      @trevorjarvis3050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robbieking2671 yes... it is in quite a few states.

    • @operationtruth288
      @operationtruth288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow

  • @rickconley3362
    @rickconley3362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Our club has wore the 13 diamond since 1962 and your explanation is pretty much what I've been thought . But the 13 was how many clubs that left the AMA back in the day . At first it was a cube then changed to a diamond . Great show as always . I'd be honored to sit down with ya and have a few drinks and talk club .

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gonna be doin some events soon

    • @Officialmryuck
      @Officialmryuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ay Rick much respect first of all but I want to say I remember seeing this on my grandfather's (blue jean cut?) I'm not a rider just a viber. Was the leather not a thing back then? My grandfather has passed since then so I can't ask him...

    • @nategolubski8383
      @nategolubski8383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Officialmryuck it's really up to the club. the club I'm around wears Jean cuts instead of leather

    • @stevehinch2694
      @stevehinch2694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Officialmryuck back in the day 1960s etc pretty much all cuts were denim hence the name it was a denim jacket with the sleeves cut off.....leather stated coming in much latter

    • @Officialmryuck
      @Officialmryuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevehinch2694 this makes allot of sense hearing this and what my father and uncle say about my grandfather. He started riding after he came back from Vietnam.

  • @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
    @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The honest truth is the 13 can mean what every your club sees fit to make it your own. Every patch on your vest means something, and it’s no bodies business but between brothers. So my 13 means something what it means to me and mine. But the next club it means something else. That’s the truth. I love how you explained this… good work homie. Your channel is so fucking real.

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its roots are its roots but other clubs have there meanings

    • @Hardrada88
      @Hardrada88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on. Well said

    • @osirissimmons9567
      @osirissimmons9567 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed I personally would use it for weed especially since the rest of patches would be band patches it'd blend in with everything else

  • @mattfarris4992
    @mattfarris4992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    From my understanding ( could be wrong) however, the 1st wearing of the numbers 13 were by the 13 Rebels in 1937, they were the top 13 AMA racers in SoCal and formed that MC, Shortly after is when the AMA came out with the whole 99% / 1% thing, the first 13 1% clubs then started wearing the 13 square patch. i have also heard it relates to each club differently.

    • @MatthewRuss-kj7yf
      @MatthewRuss-kj7yf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were 13 clubs given the diamond. The top 13 outlaw clubs living outside the AMA. POBOB, Galloping Goose, Tophatters, Moonshine, Boozefighters, etc. After the Hollister riot, the 1% came out of the media. It was then switched later to the 1%. These clubs still rate this patch.

  • @racko6ix
    @racko6ix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's some cool history on the 13 diamond. I'm first nations and support Redrum First Nations MC. They have a 13 1/2 Diamond. Their meaning is What You mentioned in the beginning partially. Redrums take is about how our people always got the odds against us in the system. 12 jurors, 1 judge and half a chance.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Much respect to you and your brothers

    • @harleykng6477
      @harleykng6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DemonsRow i want to give a Big Shout out to the REDRUM MC Met some brothers from the PEQUOT chapter in CT Great, Respectable people # GhOsTiN

    • @stimpsonsutube
      @stimpsonsutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Redrum is awesome!! MLH&R

    • @harleykng6477
      @harleykng6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stimpsonsutube FACTS!

    • @shadowwolf461
      @shadowwolf461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does redrum have a texas chapter? Yall are a bunch of cool dudes!

  • @landonjensen4731
    @landonjensen4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I have some friends that are in a support club of a 1% club, they wear the diamond 13. I’ve never asked them the meaning, because it’s none of my business. Lol.

  • @Mattt731
    @Mattt731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Second timer and I’m fucking with the content heavy man. Much love and respect from one biker to another ✊🏼
    #GHOSTIN

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome matt glad your here

  • @danewood2309
    @danewood2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in England in the late 50's early 60's my Father rode and raced a Matchless, and wore a flying jacket with a 'Diamond 13' on it, no other patch just that.... when I was Prospecting in the early 80's he told me the California Racing story as the Origin of the Diamond 13. Great to hear you state it on here

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its crazy how traditions carry

  • @CapnDrift
    @CapnDrift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll be damned... this is the first time I've heard someone get it right.
    Man, I've been riding for forty years, there's no way I can tell you how I know what I do.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much respect drift

  • @alyssavincent4075
    @alyssavincent4075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being a club with vests and patches I learn alot from you when I need to know how to go about approaching a situation we are a 3% style club but we know our look came from your culture and we don't cross certain lines ....no rockers diamond's or territory patches we stick to what we are a Patriot club ...we run a one piece patch and on our fronts we have our club name beside a Patriot club patch that explains what ans who we are and our role in the club and its chapter ...thank you for all the videos as it helps be teach my members what and what not to do ..we aren't in the mc culture but with wearing the vest comes questions which we get alot of but so far is been respectful and allowed

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im glad it helps much love

  • @alexferia3323
    @alexferia3323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    #GHOSTIN
    Thank you for all that you do. I had no clue what 13 meant. Now I do.

  • @Ness4
    @Ness4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I feel honored. 🙏🏽. Thank you hermano! Looking forward to chopping it up a bit

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we def gonna make it work

  • @adamrobertson1076
    @adamrobertson1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Keep spreading good knowledge man. I've learned alot from your videos. It's truly helping me decide if the MC life is right for me. I love to ride but lone wolf since I was 19. I'm 37 now and thinking of joining a club. Wish I lived near you man. I'd love to roll with you someday. Keep killin it man. #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where you live adam?

    • @adamrobertson1076
      @adamrobertson1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow Butler Indiana

    • @vision821k4
      @vision821k4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just want to say hi and i wish you the best and if you ever that 1 percent patch, you got my back now. ima talk all types of shit and ur gonna send ur goons for me, okay?

  • @Mike13Junior
    @Mike13Junior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been here since the start and it only keeps getting better. Stay safe and do what do on 2’s
    #GHOSTIN

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man i appreciate you for riding wit me

  • @niccomalick9166
    @niccomalick9166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There were 13 original outlaw racing clubs who were against the ama and those clubs all raced against one another and the winners won a trophy in the shape of a diamond with the 13 in it and became part of the" Diamond Club ". Check it out man just like your dude said he's right.

    • @R3dbeard7.62
      @R3dbeard7.62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. Do you have the list of the 13? I high key need it

    • @R3dbeard7.62
      @R3dbeard7.62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s my homework and I can’t find an accurate list

  • @dillonglaze9709
    @dillonglaze9709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s funny seeing these pop up clubs with ama patch and a Dimond

  • @roberthunter5119
    @roberthunter5119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Years back someone told me it meant "Mother Charter". But later learned that it was the precursor to the 1% diamond.

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea so many different stories

    • @smilingscottsman
      @smilingscottsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that too but the real meaning precedes ANY charter...

    • @Overit5000
      @Overit5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1369 = mother chapter as well

    • @stephaniecimorose9421
      @stephaniecimorose9421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      13 is mother club chapter of the PAGANS!!

    • @hankmarshall7686
      @hankmarshall7686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was told the same thing

  • @tomdavis4765
    @tomdavis4765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard it stood for the motorcycle mercenaries, heard it on pretty good authority dating back to 1968

  • @DavidSmith-gj3ut
    @DavidSmith-gj3ut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I was a kid and, I'm almost 70 , we were told by a guy who rode with the old
    Iron Cross MC in South Florida that the 13 letter was M and it was for marijuana and and when I was a kid marijuana was a big deal. I hope I explained that the way I was told.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea def

    • @addicted2legs100
      @addicted2legs100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m almost 64 and I heard weed when I was 16 from a guy 19 years older than me

  • @leeriutzel4780
    @leeriutzel4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously I'm very ignorant, I thought it was 12 jurors, 1 judge, not a chance in HELL! No clowning, I always thought that, thanks for this Sose! Once AGAIN I learned something that can save me trouble I don't need just cuz I didn't KNOW, ignorance don't mean shit to some Bikers, especially old ones

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Theres still people saying no it means m for motorcycle ok bro lol

    • @leeriutzel4780
      @leeriutzel4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good thing cuz I was gonna paint my bike with 13 on tank &/or back fender, maybe just stick to black (in my opinion, the color for a Superglide) perhaps just some nice silver pinstripe instead

    • @leeriutzel4780
      @leeriutzel4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow I trust what you say brother, you know your stuff, & don't try to be something you not, but I can tell you the real deal, much respect, & you ever round my place you welcome at my campfire.

  • @hobbitpsi
    @hobbitpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a former SAA for my old MC and originally when I was a Prospect, I was taught it was a support patch for our Dominant club in the territory which our club earned from our sponsor due to how much the founding members supported him and was always there for him, requested or not. After I got my officer position I learned the actual history of the patch, which is kind of sad that majority of bikers, even clubs don't know the origin. Just goes to show that there is a lot of information that has become twisted over the years in regards to origins.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes because everybodys worried about politics and backstabbing why would they aquire knowledge

  • @shawnyshellgren8090
    @shawnyshellgren8090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learned this from my cousin who was affiliated with the Hell’s Angels.

  • @robertharris669
    @robertharris669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was told about the square 13 and diamond 1% patches when I was 15 by a Hell Angel president that was a friend of my dad’s. He told me the square 13 was the original 1% patch which he wore on his right arm and below it was the diamond 1% patch. He would not go into detail other than he didn’t want to take off the square because he had to put in work for it. And he got the diamond 1% when he moved chapters and said he had to re-earn the diamond. I can’t verify how much of it was true and at what level he was at as president, could have been local to the area but rumor was all of Louisiana.

  • @95civicguy
    @95civicguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awsome video and a great history lesson. 13 always ment M for whatever you want it to stand for. Ive seen the old pics of the square 13 patch but you just dropped some real knowledge. #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you

  • @Cutman318
    @Cutman318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You da Man. In 30 yrs this was the best explanation of the patch that I have ever heard. We appreciate all you do and keep pounding 💯✊🏾

  • @MrFameone206
    @MrFameone206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's interesting I also just associated with support clubs. Never even thought about the meaning of was more than a support patch

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes def supports wear it

  • @iremainproductions4827
    @iremainproductions4827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was always taught that it was for the 13th letter M meaning Mother... your club is your mother and you will always honor her! but to each is own......
    as always man .. thank you for doing what you do.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clubs will have there own meanings but this is the origins

    • @unoefxz
      @unoefxz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mother, meaning mother club... But a square patch. Worn by national officers. You are on the right track.

  • @boogieb9
    @boogieb9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always wondered what the 13 Standed for. You are the first one to educate me RESPECT fam. #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much respect #ghostin

  • @mikedelauter904
    @mikedelauter904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #GHOSTIN With gas crap goin' on, and good weather comin', gonna be lottsa Bikes out, be careful out there (Y)

  • @mtruss0921
    @mtruss0921 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Read about it considering the club I'm prospecting for is one of the ORIGINAL 13 clubs that were awarded a diamond from SCOF. Part of our history even though we don't run it, we still rate it, and damn sure still have that type mentality.

  • @mr.noneofyourbusiness3234
    @mr.noneofyourbusiness3234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    True history lesson right there! I was taught by my President. We rock a diamond13 that includes the word motorcycle. Although it could mean just about any M word as the 13th letter of the alphabet if the word wasnt there. History is amazing, retaining it after its taight is even more amazing...lol...Ya boys got some residual smoke damage SOSE. #Ghostin

  • @DarkRyderWhisky
    @DarkRyderWhisky ปีที่แล้ว

    I was raised in the Heathens M/F (not to be confused with the Heathens MC) after many of the founding members moved from SoCal to Wyoming. They've been wearing the diamond 13 since 1973 and I was always told it was essentially the 1% patch and they never felt the need to change it.

  • @proudpatriot3491
    @proudpatriot3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    #ghostin. My uncle who is in a Vet's MC just told me it means they are Outlaws (not the club). He attends 1% events but he is real careful on what he says about them because he isn't a 1%er. Great info Sose, very interesting.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you patriot

    • @vision821k4
      @vision821k4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow Are you a 1 percenter?

    • @hobbitpsi
      @hobbitpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't have to be that careful. The Military MC's and Veteran MC's are still pretty respected among all the clubs considering the original founding members of the big clubs were Veterans themselves, and usually when the 1% club throws an event they expect all the other clubs to attend and show support.

    • @proudpatriot3491
      @proudpatriot3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hobbitpsi Yeah my Uncle did mention they go to a lot of the 1%er in the area events.

    • @hobbitpsi
      @hobbitpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@proudpatriot3491 It's not even a bad thing. A lot of the events are usually fund raisers to help charities, or maybe a biker (in any club or just one they got word of) and their family have medical bills to be paid. Once you hang around or even patch into a club, you realize that it's not all the bad things the media claims the MC life is about. A huge majority is raising funds for something important.

  • @myvidss
    @myvidss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Sose, new subscriber here and i really love your channel. I thought the diamond 13 stemmed from the Hells Angels bomber crew from ww2 that rode their bikes together when not on a mission and thought that was the beginning of the Hells Angels MC.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

    • @keithhampton9700
      @keithhampton9700 ปีที่แล้ว

      Old Outlaw Biker told me it stood for M . Meaning marijuana.

  • @del_619
    @del_619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has always been a topic. When I grew up you never had anything with 13 on it. It wasn’t until I was 5 years in then navy when I learned about the 13 tattoo tradition where getting it inked would bring you good luck. That kinda where the Friday the 13th tattoo events rooted from besides the old story of wanting a cheap tattoo. The way you said it and the way the clubs use it makes sense to me too.

  • @Lucky-yr8jj
    @Lucky-yr8jj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the first time I've heard this spoken about since I was told the meaning. Sose, much respect for the real facts.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much respect lucky

  • @moleather9038
    @moleather9038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The way I see it , earn the patch and you will know what it means to your club , love the content even though you are on the other side of the planet. 🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much love paul glad you enjoy

  • @spyder-jc5bc
    @spyder-jc5bc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #ghostin I've learned so much from this show. Keep up the great work my man

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      #Gho⚡tin thank u

  • @kahrhoshe
    @kahrhoshe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your explanations of patches, MC life, and the fact that you accept EVERYONE. MC or independent. Mad respect brother. HOpe to meet you someday #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will brother much love

  • @grouchyoleguy
    @grouchyoleguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video ...Ole school H.A. member taught me the true meaning of the 13 diamond patch

  • @johnbruner8440
    @johnbruner8440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #GHOSTIN
    We always used it for the original anti-AMA, them morphed into marijane.
    If anyone ever asked I would usually tell em it meant M for mom. Or my favorite, I told em the whole Outlaw m/c movement was started by some dude named Melvine. He hated that name so we called him "diamond m". The patch was a tribute.

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salute john #Gho⚡tin

  • @mekkler
    @mekkler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I originally heard the meaning of the 13 diamond as you describe. The early history of the AMA and the Outlaws coming from that. I heard know-nothings say it meant 'M' for murder for how someone allegedly got into an MC.

  • @TrevorSBrown
    @TrevorSBrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice breakdown. Thanks! I am not in a club and do not plan to be. Just not my thing but I do like to know the correct protocols and other things useful when riding. you are on point always. The only ones I listen to are you and Black Dragon. I appreciate you guys.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much love trev

  • @articosergio
    @articosergio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there any connection between the diamond 13 and the Chapter 13 ? I was told that the Chapter is for the fallen brothers of an MC, but is any coincidence ?....thanks for your work in spreading the knowledge about MC culture, here in Europe we hardly know the reality....even the prominent MC that have chapters over here...don't seem to adhere much to what their mother chapters are all about. Much respect to you for your work

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure brother

  • @Hardrada88
    @Hardrada88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great one man! Fantastic. I always saw it as a badge of recognition, a combat patch that only those who know, know of..if you will. If I ride by or am at a meet and see a 13, I feel relatively secure in the knowledge that they know their stuff, they know the life. Another reason why I don’t like the fully patched pretend cuts. I wear a plain leather cut, no patches, one support pin and my old EGA that’s it. ‘13’ was also popular with the cafe racers and early rockers as well but was mostly painted onto a jacket rather than a patch. Unlucky for some, lucky for others. 13’s legendary. Hope your doing well out there man, ride swift & steady.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true much love stuart

  • @ritchiebooe2645
    @ritchiebooe2645 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cousin, who is a shot caller for 81's told me about the history of the Diamond 13 patch when I was a teenager..

  • @jasongrayrosecityproductio6120
    @jasongrayrosecityproductio6120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always informative and on point! One of my favorite shows to whatch#DEAMONSROWTV

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you

  • @rxrbrakeman571
    @rxrbrakeman571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    100% accurate. Learned that history from my father back in the 70s

  • @RC51Legend
    @RC51Legend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, idk if anyone touched on this, but the early outlaw clubs referred to the AMA motorcyclists as "squares". So, they took the square and turned it on it's side!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      O nice never heard that b4

  • @cris-vv1pn
    @cris-vv1pn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Demons Row gives the truth about the diamond patch great vid dude # Ghosting UK

  • @tommorwood888
    @tommorwood888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the history Sose. I was always told it represented a "Very Dangerous" man and to leave it at that......

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much resoect

  • @pops_hd6962
    @pops_hd6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    #GHOSTIN great history lesson about MC clubs who were developing their own style

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much love bill

    • @pops_hd6962
      @pops_hd6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoseTheGhost love & respect and thank you! Be safe Brother!

  • @rebelbynature4762
    @rebelbynature4762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was told by my grandfather about the motorcycle racing scene before I was born. He used to tell me the reason he wore the number 13 was for because of the "politics." I didn't understand for a long time until I grew older and started riding on the street instead of dirt.
    Everything just started to make sense as time went on and I learned a bit of history.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice thanks for sharing

    • @rebelbynature4762
      @rebelbynature4762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for what you do Sose. #ghostin

  • @sololobo9994
    @sololobo9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #ghostin always look forward to these lately

  • @bootleggerr6471
    @bootleggerr6471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was given the actual history of the diamond 13 when I prospected, but now it does mean different for each club

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes def does most mother but clubs im close with i cant reveal certain aspects

    • @joogullae3456
      @joogullae3456 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ashryder3266
    @ashryder3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has been a busy week for videos, I appreciate your hard work with all this content, keep it up brother #Ghostin

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you ash i get a break till sunday live lol

    • @ashryder3266
      @ashryder3266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoseTheGhost my last night of work for a couple days too now. Catch you at church man, enjoy your days off

  • @michaelwarshaw7325
    @michaelwarshaw7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #GHOSTIN #CALIFORNIA #JUSTAVETERANWITHABIKE
    The Diamond 13 patch is well known to Trials, Scramblers, Hillclimbers, Enduro riders, and Speedway and Flat Track racers in Southern California. Initially it signified the top 13 of the Outlaw Racers Association sanctioning clubs. The outlaw (racing) clubs formed to break the stranglehold the AMA had on racing, and also promoted safety (no board tracks).
    Later it was used as a symbol for privateer racing teams (teams without major sponsorship or backing). competing on the pro circuit. I wore one racing enduros and scrambles, and that's where I learned about the meaning. When I see the patch on a 1% club cut (at least here in SoCal) you can be reasonably sure he's a racer, or was, and is keeping alive the memory of those original outlaws.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      #Gho⚡tin well said

  • @jeroldjorgensen5019
    @jeroldjorgensen5019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is the first time I've heard about the 13 Dimond patch

    • @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
      @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really?

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea alot of people dont

    • @SIN-oz1kx
      @SIN-oz1kx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More common then you think.

    • @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
      @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoseTheGhost then he’s at the right place to get informed. Sose your info is so fucking real. And universal. Thanks for informing the uneducated, and reeducation and conformation to the known.

    • @hobbitpsi
      @hobbitpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bet now when you see clubs roll by you'll see it clear as day though.

  • @bigphil272
    @bigphil272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    # GHOSTIN much love for the knowledge and what you are doing for the uneducated. Stupidity can be painful for some. Stay Up

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it can stay

  • @papito7757
    @papito7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After hearing this video I was wondering if the originals came from a type of racing club when did it change to where most bikers became known for rolling on the choppers or the big cc cruiser type motorcycles and not racing bikes?

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure on that

  • @marshaldillon4387
    @marshaldillon4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Ghosten ! Siten on 2 Baby !
    At the age of 16 many years ago. That’s when I started riding. I asked a friend who was tagging along with the 81s not a Prospect what the 1 present meant. He told me it meant a guy that would kill. My friend used to split about midnight to go with these guys. I never went with. Thinking about it now man that’s a long time ago. Much love SOSE.

  • @mfee2079
    @mfee2079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heard that basic same story from an ancient Booze Fighter patch in Florida

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great tradition much respect

  • @stevenfoust1979
    @stevenfoust1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew what it meant, Thanks for the straight truth, Love your show

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you steve

  • @davef4800
    @davef4800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen while locked up the Dimond 13 1/2. Which was told to stand for 12 jurors 1 judge and a 1/2 ass chance. 🤙🏽😎🤙🏽

  • @jamesalmieda9051
    @jamesalmieda9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the show much love much respect far as I'm concerned your saving lives for real God bless MASSACHUSETTS 🙌 🙏

  • @Tr3smass
    @Tr3smass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got my bandana and a gaiter too

  • @templarkidd
    @templarkidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so growin up in northern California, i started AMA racing motorcycles in the 80s as a kid. I remember asking the older racers what the diamond 13 patch was on some of the guys leathers meant, as most of them were out of town racers or guys i heard of from other states. They told me it was a patch for racers that don't follow the rules. Almost like a bad boy patch. And all the HA guys that went to the races to watch wore the same patch. I remember all the "fast kids" rocked a diamond 13 sticker on the front plate! 😂

  • @rarebreed9208
    @rarebreed9208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have any first hand knowledge of it myself, but as far as I know the 13 stood for the letter M, and the diamond stood for somethin somethin else.
    M being the first letter of the word associated with ultimate loyalty to the club.
    Don't know what it means to anyone else, but to this day, that's what I associate it with.
    But what the hell do I know?

  • @bkb0859
    @bkb0859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen the diamond 13 patch, but never knew what it meant, I do now, thanks Brother.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yw brother

  • @danthomas663
    @danthomas663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. I’ve heard a lot so it’s good to know original facts.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you

  • @biker-dog-poppy
    @biker-dog-poppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you , cause I been "ghostin'" and respect for your million dollar effort and education

  • @johndecker2628
    @johndecker2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad he started riding HA Southern calling and became one the first golpping goose s callj

  • @charlezzsock6986
    @charlezzsock6986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13 is an unlucky number many buildings that have more then 13 stories often go from floor 12 to 14.

  • @skyjac92
    @skyjac92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent info, Sose! Per your request, I was taught this by a 1%er out of California before he passed. GBNF. #ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #Gho⚡tin

  • @heathermo4563
    @heathermo4563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #GHOSTIN
    Learned something new. Appreciate the info as always💪🖤

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #Gho⚡tin much love my family

  • @blackedoutbandit
    @blackedoutbandit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats your thoughts on clubs like BACA? (Bikers against child abuse)

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love what they do

  • @Overit5000
    @Overit5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXACTLY. IT MEANS OUTLAW. It’s the older predecessor to the modern 1% diamond.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👊👊👊

  • @indianrider127
    @indianrider127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard just about all from motorcycle to Marijuana to meth. Like you said it just depends on who you ask. Great content keep up the info. Some need all the help they can get. Much Respect

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much respect

  • @grgygantz6760
    @grgygantz6760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #Ghostin from Port Orange. Been out ridding not hiding. Racked up about 500 miles in two weekends . All back roads.

    • @scoutsaresilentdeath8775
      @scoutsaresilentdeath8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, my cousin lives in Port Orange. I'm considering moving down there this year. How's the riding areas?

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice get it bro

  • @chrissteelman2273
    @chrissteelman2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #ghostin btw
    And I was told from a brother many years ago that it was more about the #13 than the patch. I was told that the number 13 was known as an unlucky number in biblical days. I was told to look up the Code of Hammurabi for reference

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea i never heard about the 13 on the biblical side

    • @chrissteelman2273
      @chrissteelman2273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow Up until he told me I hadn't either but upon reading it kind of made sense at the time. But as you mentioned there are so many stories behind it, it's hard to follow at times. I'm really glad you did a video on the subject. you really are saving a lot of peoples asses man and I for one appreciate it. I'd love to ride with you and party with you one day. "ML&R" "LHIN"

  • @steveogmibene2929
    @steveogmibene2929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #Ghostin, I have a 13 tatt , a square 13 ring , no diamond , no patches on my cut , just doing me , thanks Sose , good info , Respect .

  • @billaugsburger927
    @billaugsburger927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the straight poop. I was told it meant that our fates ride on 12 square jury members and a crooked judge

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👊👊👊

  • @Baltuc_Racing
    @Baltuc_Racing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Ghostin
    Very cool , love learning new stuff 👍
    Thx for schooling this old dog 🤘

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much love tuck

  • @saintfrederick333
    @saintfrederick333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #ghostin that was the info I had learned from another channel who is apart of a black outlaw mc. The ama said, after the Hollister situation, "99% of their clubs are law abiding and the 1% were the ones who caused that situation" so those clubs basically said "we'll be that 1%". I'm loosely quiting that but that was the jist. And to your point, depending on the club or who you ask, it means something different but it is saying that they are separate from the ama and their bs.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea like i said everybody got there meanings this is strictly the origin

  • @MarkusChristopher
    @MarkusChristopher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #Ghostin Gato SOMC 1%er .. excellent outlay of the history and explanation... anti-AMA theme is solid and real from our history.. also is a good outlook that many clubs have own ways of doing and looking at things... keeping it real

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much respect Gato

  • @rorymcilvenny1568
    @rorymcilvenny1568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was born and raised in Ireland 🇮🇪, came to East L.A in the early 80's. After a few ass beatings, some given some taken it became my home, I was always taught by O.G Veteranos that the 13 stood for California (Sur Cal) the 13th State in the Union.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea theres alot of meanings

    • @jeffrobbins179
      @jeffrobbins179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of what u said adds up Rory

  • @txbarker78
    @txbarker78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to the scene, started to hang around and learn and see what I can offer to MC and what MC can offer me. All US Marines so there's that initial bond, plus I dont feel as stupid asking questions, because I feel not asking the questions IS being stupid, and just like active duty being the FNG you need to ask questions when need be other than that keep eyes and ears open and your mouth shut.
    As for you brother thanks for doing this channel. In this new age of international interconnectedness and the world's information at our fingertips there's alot of BS floating about and lots of people who don't know shit. Hard to sift through the shit sometimes but you're legit cracking eggs of knowledge on us independents and hang arounds. So thanks again. I dont know if ill ever patch in but I have a better understanding of what im getting into, how to be respectful to fellow bikers, and how to not step on anyone's dick and get in trouble. Last thing I want or need is trouble, first thing I want is a safe healthy family, and some brothers to bond with.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy the ride

  • @dudetheblessed2524
    @dudetheblessed2524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every patch means something. Some patches mean everything. Please know what you wear and why you wear it.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the truth

  • @YogisCycleService
    @YogisCycleService 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love old skool history. Important to know where the roots came from.

  • @scoutsaresilentdeath8775
    @scoutsaresilentdeath8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    # GHOSTIN from Missouri. Love your channel bro and getting me a bandanna for Father's Day

    • @SoseTheGhost
      @SoseTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you brother

  • @chinooutlaw6603
    @chinooutlaw6603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yooo sose that's my brother Ness we go waaaaay back from when I was a Crazy Bishop

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice brother crazy bishop?

    • @chinooutlaw6603
      @chinooutlaw6603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow yeah bro street commandos from 42nd St they disbanded in 94 I was one of the last ones to fly their colors

  • @roadwarrior4813
    @roadwarrior4813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to your Channel!!! Good to have all the information and you definitely give us that!!!
    # ghostin!!!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #Gho⚡tin

  • @shelbyadkison6233
    @shelbyadkison6233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My brother it's so good to see you educate and explain proper etiquette when starting a club as you know it's all about the respect getting the blessing from the dominate club is showing respect which must be done or the shit will get real real quick guys leaving them comments they dont need no blessings and do what they want is funny try that where I'm from San Bernardino Ca there many mc clubs that you better fit in quick or get out if you can let's see therse H A Mongols vagos disciples diablos and some I didn't mention in fact you probably better off prospecting rather than start a new club I think if you can hang with the big boys but glad to see you explaining the rules and culture cause it can save lots of dudes bad times I now live in Florida much respect my brother @ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much respect my brother appreciate you

  • @jpboywonder
    @jpboywonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once again great info and content Brother! I really appreciate what you do!! ML&R
    #ghostin DA BEAST TR 1%er

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you my brother #Gho⚡tin

  • @peeweegnome8977
    @peeweegnome8977 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the early days of bikin an patches the 13 diamond patch stood for marijuana the letter M being the 13th letter in the alphabet . It was to show yur clubs "use" of marijuana .

  • @DXChrisCross
    @DXChrisCross 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question. Do 1% MCs take cuts from non 1% MCs? In other words, do outlaw motorcycle crews ever just attack non outlaw MCs when they see them? How does that work? Or is it just more of an issue when there are territory rockers involved?

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they do i got a video when a 1er takes your cut it explains

    • @DXChrisCross
      @DXChrisCross 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow Thanks. I'll check that out. Btw, just found your channel yesterday. Love the info and appreciate you taking the time to inform people on what's really going on. I think you're saving lives.

  • @seanebbert5387
    @seanebbert5387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love this culture my pops was a outlaw biker type of person he never joined a mc and I believe that it’s mainly because there wasn’t any around where he stayed at at the time but I remember all the big scary looking people around me I was a little kid so I don’t remember colors or patches but I do I love this culture I just can’t bring myself to get a hog I like my gsxr to much

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do what you like

  • @haydenremnant2651
    @haydenremnant2651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Ghostin great piece of history! You gotta know and respect what’s gone before.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true hayden

  • @Noone765
    @Noone765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #Gostin - The Diamond 13 patch was explained to me by a patched member of Hell’s Angels who lived at the end of the street I lived on in Santa Monica CA, and it was the precursor to Diamond 1% patch. I never argued with him, he was a great neighbor and excellent Harley mechanic. For a case of beer and parts he would repair my bike. Love to my brother.