Cecil Stedman Comic History Explained | Invincible
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Welcome back to our continuing coverage of Amazon’s Invincible, based off the Robert Kirkman series of the same name. This is our ninth episode in this series, so feel free to check out our other videos on Omni-Man, Invincible, Robot, Battle beast, Atom Eve, Monster Girl, The Immortal, and Rex Splode as well… there should be a card on the screen now if you need help finding them. For the best understanding of these videos it does really help to watch those videos as well.
In today’s video we will be covering the origins and entire history of Cecil Stedman. But before we begin, keep in mind that this video is not going to cover every single panel that Cecil is in, but it will cover the vast majority of the most important elements of his story. Additionally, in order for the story to make the most sense I may not necessarily cover every event as it occurred in the comics, but rather in a way that presents it most logically. - บันเทิง
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mauler twins next, please .
I love Cecil man
Why won’t you do a video on Thragg??? I’ve been writing this request for each of these videos you are posting
Could you do a video breaking down machine heads bodyguards?
Please do a complete history on Allen the alien and dupli-kate!!
“You see the world as black and white, while I need to keep it grey.” A man that live by his words.
Unfortunately he died by them too. Robot killed him as what he saw as a necessary evil for the greater good.
@The one and only story can change tho like donald dying early compared to comics it wont be copy from comics
Its gotta stay grey, son!
@@rockafeller3734 Donald was never really a major character in the invincible series, unlike Cecil where he is. Pretty sure they'll keep his death in the series
The necessary evil.
The virgin Amanda Waller: Bosses around regular people from an office.
The chad Cecil Stedman: Taunts a god amongst men in person, general badass
...cecil is a badass but let's not pretend Amanda waller is scared to get her hands dirty
@Saggy Nips Okay now we're just getting kinky.
@Saggy Nips agreed
Wiz:Sometimes Heroes can't be trusted and if they ever turn against us we need people who willing to do WHATEVER it takes to keep this Planet Safe.
Boomstick: Amanda Waller:Agent of A.R.G.U.S
Wiz: And Cecil Stedman:Leader of the Global Defense Agency.
Wiz: And it Our job to Analyze the Weapons , Armores And Skills to find out who would Win.
Boomstick: A DEATHBATTLE!!!
This is brilliant *Amanda Waller*
But I like this *Cecil Stedman*
I love that initially he killed bad guys who did heinous things, but later adopts the mentality even bad guys can be useful if controlled. That's true character growth.
No that's just bad writing
@@seaslimeshanties4546 cry more
@@seaslimeshanties4546 do elaborate
@@eddyboiiiy6109 if you insist personally I think that i was a little too blunt with that original comment, I understand what they were trying to do with his character but personally I think it probably could have been done a little better, to put it brief I feel like they kind of forced the story a little too much especially when it comes to his relationship with mark, I don't know it's just what I personally think
@@seaslimeshanties4546 so it's bad writing because it feels forced, 1 sentence.
stedman's design is genius.
we assume that his scar is where he got damaged from his incident, when in reality, his scar **is** the last remnant of his original skin to survive his incident.
Thats crazy to think about
The worst thing is that on Cecil's funeral, only Mark and Atom Eve went. That's sad.
what on earth yes that is very sad
@@psyrapmafia To be fair, Robot did kill a lot of heroes by then
Cecil's involvement with the government had to be kept a secret so I assumed no one was allowed to go.
Tbf I doubt he would've cared either way
He was supposedly killed in action. Nobody knows he's still running around
Is it me or Cecil is nicer in the show? Don't get me wrong, he's still extremely morally ambiguous as hell, but he shows that he doesn't like what he does, but it's fully aware that they have to be done
He's much more human in the show, showing actual resentment in his actions
Definitely. He's way more unapologetic in the comics.
@@jaeloc1217 you learn more about him in the Brit and Guarding the Globe runs, too.
I feel like they made him too likeable in the show. Plenty of time to fix that, but Cecil is definitly more sympathetic in the show.
@@Bread. @J H I think "lawful neutral" applies. He's not "nice." He's just not malicious.I get the feeling from this version of the character he'll be just as brutal and murderous as omniman if it's "necessary."
The only guy who Mark was so nonchalant with - even when he found out Cecil had created and repurposed his clones to kill him if he ever went rogue - I love this dude tragic end though
It was at that point Mark had matured enough to understand that the world isn’t Black & White
Shut up yamcha go watch vegeta do bulma or some other depressing shit
@@vetrosinic5677 What,
@@vetrosinic5677 what?
@@vetrosinic5677 huh?
Did anyone else think the teleporting was actually his superpower at first😅
Yes, I did!
Same
It may as well be.
I mean it technically is, as is everything in the agency’s arsenal
That fight scene with the teleporting blows me away. He can't tp, he had to fully trust and rely on his people to move him in time
Everyone asks who is Cecil, but no one ever asks how is Cecil..
Dead. He is dead.
He's good. Chilling in his goo
Haha i get it cause he's old asf and could die any second
Oh wait-
Dead. Cecil's dead.
I'll do you one better.
_Why is Cecil?_
Cecil is really interesting and depressing character.
Loved him in the show
You would be too if your skin got completely destroyed lol
I love how much more screen time and depth he's getting because of the show, I knew I would like him fairly early on but his face off against Omni man in episode 7 was hands down one of my favourite scenes in the entire show so far and cemented him as one of my top characters
He’s a boss, I think he’s better in the series than the comics
I agree. I like Cecil a lot
villain that was nearly beaten to death: *exists*
Cecil: It's free real estate
Tbh cecil lowkey was the biggest hero here out of everyone lol. He did whatever it took to protect everyone
But at What cost
@@krowpan799 The exact cost that was needed.
Basically his whole "I do everything it takes to save earth" shtick was a succession of endangering earth voluntarily and then f*ck up the saving part, requiring someone else to do it for him.
It's more like Robot.
Robot killed Cecil, and some superheroes, but basically turned earth into a utopia that was literally a threat to the viltrum empire.
@@suleymanbabak1973 one word
conquest
Personally I prefer the Cecil we get on the show, since it really shows how badass he is.
Yeah, I think goggins added alot of depth to Cecil. He's cool in the comics; even cooler in the show.
@@ColorMeDoubleZ I honestly like both. Cecil seems a bit goofier badass in the fucking comics, like the time when Nolan returned home (post the guradians of the globe death) and Cecil shot him on fucking sight and said “whoops, a reaction” 😂.
I really like him in the animated show in his portrayal, but the comics show a man who is truly willing to do anything to protect the planet.
He did one action scene, that's it
Dude it's still season 1
@@Elvusmiw and its good enough for me
Its ironically hypocritical that Cecil killed the first team after they did some horrendous shit but saved him. Then fastforward some years he does the same shit he hated.
Yup. He realized that to save the many lives of the planet, you can't live a black and white life. Ideals are great in theory, but real life doesn't care about ideals, and will throw as many wrenches as it takes for you to realize that, and/or kill you.
It's the whole theme of the comic. People thinking they are the ones to know best or that they are the moral guide, only to find out they are wrong and needed a larger perspective.
It’s over 20 years later🙄
@@oozly9291 Doesn't matter. There's no time limit to being allowed to repeat the same mistakes. 🙄
Like its a good ideal to not want to kill, but hesitation can cause things to escalate more. And death can be unavoidable if the obstacle is another superpowered villain. @@LeafMaltieze
I just love the implications of Nolan having a “secret identity“ like the man doesn’t even bother to wear a mask, he’s not even some random nobody, he’s a semi successful author, that would be like JK Rowling being the secret identity of Superman
i love the wording of that suggesting that JK Rowling's fame and money counts as "semi successful" :P
J.K rowling is a girl-
probably more like the Red Skull. JK Rowling would not be a hero. Clark would have some choice words for her.
@@RotalHenricssonjust because she supports women over men doesn’t mean she’s a bad person
@@RotalHenricsson🙄
This guy is like Batman, with the Justice League contingencies on standby at all times
More of a Batman than Dark Wing.
More like a badass Amanda Waller
@@tonosalazar6295 yes
100% agree, he is like nick fury and Batman combined
Gen13 Mr.Lynch has entered the chat.
I think it’s worth bringing up that Mark eventually acknowledges that Robot’s rule brings about an era of peace and progress. In fact, even despite Robot killing Cecil and Mark and Robot having some serious issues with each other, Mark acknowledges that Cecil probably would have been happy with the state of the world. Cecil cared about securing the planet for future generations at any and all costs, and he did whatever he thought he could to prevent mass death events. He didn’t always succeed, and he wound up with a LOT of blood on his hands-even by Invincible standards.
I love seeing how the art improves as the series goes on. I think it adds to the development of the characters to see them in more detail as you understand their actions better.
Wait so the animations gonna improve as we go on? 🤔😍
@@Billsnz I meant that in reference to the comic, but it’s not unlikely that the animated series will improve as well.
The art in the comic goes back and forth, some issues have awesome art, some look goofy. They changed artists every now and then and some didn't turn out so good. In respect to the show, either season 2 and 3 get a bigger budget and blow season 1 out of the water or they bank on the popularity, do a One Punch Man Season 2 and get lazy.
Ryan Ottley is to thank for that, Corey Walker finished the series unfortunately tho
@@LordBaktor I really like how season 1 looks
I swear , Invincible has the best character back stories.
Dabg right
Dabg!
Robert Kirkman (Invincible creator) to create ultimate xmen is pretty good
@@Skips10 what’s dabg
@@Blatgotyahatty I thinking he was trying to say dang but missed clicked b since it’s next to n
I really feel sad for Cecil, after sacrificing and suffering so much for the world, the way he died and was buried was really disgraceful for entire human race.
Bro I agree the fact that he saved millions and 2 people came to his funeral also they way he died man no fighting no Cecil finest just an assination
Was Debbie an mark came i mean this dude gave them so much . I'm sorry but the comics are way too expensive can't do it with 13$h jobs or is their a website thats free
@@prettycureforever7102 just go to comicextra or readcomicsonline
@@jjcameron0096 I hope the TV show handles his death differently
Not gonna lie, Cecil is my favorite character in the show. Everyone kinda hates him but he’s really not that bad of a guy.
Same. He's really morally ambiguous and an interesting character if you ask me. Also they picked a cool voice for him.
Same he just happens to be a victim of circumstances. The best quote he had was “I hate myself too” when he said that you know he’s been through the shit.
@@observeandreport2011 Deadass, I felt so bad when he said that. Like he may have been doing some morally grey shit but still like noooo don't hate yourself dude you're my favourite aha.
True. Hes just a human, and fought with what he had. Represents the best of us.
Exactly, he doesn’t like what he does, but someone has to make the s**tty choices, damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I'm legitimately surprised that Cecil didn't appear again later after his death. Specifically thinking that he had the mauler twins clone him and he tucked his clone away until his death. I figured he'd be the guy who had a back up plan for his back up plan
For real though
He trolled a technical god. What a legend.
Technical?? Honestly, Asgardian, I don’t see a whole lot that they lack to make them “god tier”. I mean Conquest and Thragg and even Nolan alone...
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access the ability to destroy planets (nolan only destroyed a city and a space station, the planet is still there), FTL speed, some badass power like wielding lightning. They aren't even close to god tier. I mean, Superman is god tier, and he'd hand their asses to them. Just because they're hard to kill, doesn't mean they're god tier. They're strong AF, but not gods. That's why i said "technical god"
@@thorodinson292 yea but conquest alone can probably destroy asgard if odin is not there
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access depends on your definition. After all, the word has a very WIDE semantic range, from influential people to the uncreated creator of the omniverse. Omni-Man is around post crisis superman level, though he seems to actually have less durability, as getting punched for a couple seconds by very strong beings gave him internal bleeding and made him unconscious for a prolonged period. If you want to compare him to Greek or Norse pantheons, he's actually far above their durability, although power output is hard to compare. I remember Thor destroying entire mountains in a single hammer hit in one story. Omni-Man destroyed flaxan largely due to relativistic speeds and it doesn't seem he can actually punch that hard. Compare him to darkseid or Jesus (1st advent) (there's a reason I group these two together) and he could technically destroy their bodies if he was permitted to, but would be unable to destroy their true forms. In Jesus' case it depends if he utilities his divine nature to access omniscience and thereby anticipate Omni-Man's attack in which case he can simply speak a word to make him powerless.
@@thorodinson292
You know whos a god, Allen the alien, thragg and battlebeast.
Cecil is so cool lmao, especially in the comics and his Teleportation thing lol
By far one of the most badass characters in the entire series, and he doesn't even have powers.
Gus Fring, with hair
@@teslashark LMAO
Cecil is the embodiment of what is truly the government he makes the hard decisions to cause the least amount of death and protect himself
aka the opposite of what our governments do
@@lilbean5955 Cecil 2024!
@@lilbean5955 honestly, normally I wouldn't go out of my way to say this, but that's a super reductionist take that doesn't help make anything better. If you've got beef with what the government does, it is on you to get your message out there, be activist, and make some change happen, whether as part of a larger organization or on your own somehow.
Warcrimes incarnate nah dog, in theory u right, in reality, u wrong and lil bean is right
Not in practice. Most politicians avoid ANY decisions, especially hard decisions due to most voters valuing hollow words over action
Cecil is the guy you might hate but you'd love to have running things for you. He's efficient, he covers all the angles that he can, and he's planning. Even when he takes in new blood, he leaves a grim reminder on the wall that they aren't unkillable. And he plays for the long game. When Darkblood figured things out, he couldn't have him expose Omni just yet. Cecil needed to figure out the reason for it.
If he worked for a criminal organization he'd be a great Lex Luthor-esque character. But he's working for the Flag. The guy making the moves in the shadows so the heroes in the light can continue.
Idk what's to hate about him tbh
@@mryellow6918 The initial ruthlessness. Initial. Once you understand what he's all about, you can bypass his curtness.
Cecil is one of my favorites in the show
I've always had a very strong love/hate relationship with Robot.... I would just downright love him except for him killing Cecil. If he hadn't done that, he'd probably be my favorite character in the series.
What was the point of robot killing some heroes.
@@Elvusmiw I assume it was because those hero's opposed him
5:53 You tried to cross the border right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush!
God damnit
So in a way he is like Jonah Hex, a cold hearted man who has a scar is a reminder to show that the world is messed up with a little bit of Amanda Waller due to his affiliation with the government.
Try more than a little, he is more thanwilling to use "supervillains."
Unlike waller his more nicer and compared to her who hires villains that are very dangerous and backstab them in the. He only uses villains who have beneficial and chance to change themselves
@@theblade1251
More like those who are too valuable to waste. It is a bad idea to just waste talent. Plus unlike Waller he is not just loking for dispoasble pawns.
@@Raximus3000 and that's correct ever since i watched and read the comics. Cecil is the better version of Waller and fury
Cecil was my favorite character, he was like a working Rick trying to organize superheroes. And he really knows where he stands morally
Referring to the Rick from Rick and Morty?
still one of my favorite characters in invincible love that he’s not just a generic evil government agent or purely a road block to mark. he’s a realist who’s cold and calculating and willing to use lesser evils to stop greater evils. But unlike a generic government villain his actual goal is ultimately the protection of earth firmly planting him in that morally grey area. he may do some fucked up shit but everything he does has sound reason to it if you can look past the moral hangups.
As I reached the 15 minute mark I took a mental step back and realized how convoluted it all sounded.
Lolzzzz it's comic I think 🤔 we maybe over analyzing something meant for pure enjoyment
Invincible: Broke a super intelligent but psychopathic dinosaur man to protect the world from global warming.
Cecil Stedman who hired DA Sinclair who created Robot Zombies out of alternate universe Invincibles: You weren't supposed to do that.
Invincible: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.
A furry
Cecil has more tools and is more adept at working and controlling shady business. He's been doing it for a long time, with technology and alot of talented people behind him. .
Mark was.. "You gonna do good, psychopathic dinosaur?", "Yes", "Then we're good, i trust you fella 100%, lets give you access!"
Wait so thats why the dino dude killed 1 million people? Because less people means less emissions?
@@KillerBee300 something along the lines
@@KillerBee300 I mean it is kind of true. Every person has energy demands. I'm not hopeful of getting neutral emissions let alone being able to reverse them. So even if we are near neutral but above it, emissions will still continue to go up as you add more people. The only incentive of trying to attain a technology to reverse emissions, is if we want to colonize Mars and one of the goals to do that is to terraform the planet so it becomes habitable. Too many conflicts of interest on trying to do that on Earth. Since this is unlikely in the near future, you will probably want to eradicate a large and catastrophic amount of people, if you want to drop energy demands a significant amount.
"400 billion dollars for the world's most expensive nosebleed"
Idk why everyone hates him while he is litelary helping everyone
Because the writer told them to. That's literally the only reason.
Absolutely love his adaptation in the show. Such a badass
RIP, Cecil. You probably had to have known that this was how you'd go out.
Kinda doesn't make sense for Robot to have killed Cecil when they both have the same goal: world safety.
The Robot War Arc is considered by most the worst arc in the series. Robot becomes essentially a way worse, and less interesting version of Nolan, in literally like 3 or 4 pages, with almost no believable explanation for his very extreme change in behavior.
Hopefully they will fix that and other issues in the show
Guess robot became empathetic af after getting out of that time tube dimension
@@halfiem2510 Yeah I get that there's no way he wouldn't change by being on the Flaxan homeworld... But Monster Girl only slightly changed, and it was for the better, not the worse. Robot just became a douchebag.
@@Akiraspin fr i really hate tge robot arc and the arc where mark travelled to the past, the 5 years timeskip still ok to me, but eve find another man just seems so unnecessary
Man, they really did Cecil dirty at the end.
Cecil is one of my favorite characters he can make the hard and the cruel decisions without let his emotions take control of him unlike most of the other good characters, smart character and do anything to keep earth safe no matter the cost:)
Well Kirkman is on the show as writer so I would hope events flow the same as comics
Cecil is one of those really mysterious characters that I just wanna know more about.
Cecil was so badass in episode 7 season 1
Part of me hopes Cecil continues to live (at least a little longer) in the show, dude's just too cool.
I will admit, I came to the series expecting it to be re-written just as an animated version of The Boys, at least in spirit. But... It won my heart.
I actually like the superhero genre, I like Spiderman, I like Ghost Rider (grew up reading the Danny Ketch run), so... Yeah, seeing that Mark is actually trying to be the best hero he can be, and the rest of the Guardians as well, brings a good feeling.
*Nolan beats Mark senseless* “Look at that. Taking it like a champ!”
I hope they don’t kill him off or becomes a villain in the prime series
I know he's not been in the show yet but Angstrom levy would be a cool one to see
Cecil always reminds me of Amanda Waller & Nick Fury in his goals and motivations.
Awesome This video was up quicker then I expected thank you
Keep up the great work
Honestly Cecil is a really good character he does some questionable things that need to be done but his heart is in the right place
I just found out about this series from recommended clips and instantly fell in love with Cecil, now I'm bummed to know he died so awfully..
I gotta say Cecil was probably the best character in Season 1.
At first there was a worry he'd be ur stereotypical 'controlling government bad guy' especially with his morally grey line but he was perfectly consistent in his character proving to be sympathetically morally good (not ethical) and yet brilliant and calculating as a man of his position should be.
He's like a mix of the Rick Dicker (Incredibles) and Amanda Waller (Justice League)
just finished the show and literally went online to look for a video like this🖤
cecil was absolutely my favourite.
Cecil is the batman of invincible not darkwing, because Cecil has PLANS
Darkwing is the opposite of Batman, Poor and Stupid.
You just got another sub, happy and glad you’ve done the research for us to enjoy!
Here is what you need to know, Cecil is like if Batman and Amanda Waller had a kid
An nick fury
Ew
@@IzumiDaniel whats wrong with that they’re cool characters
@@ukplug6629 It’s the idea of them having kids I think
Cause Batman is incredibly rich and smart like Cecil.
Love these vids they are uploaded at the right time
I really do love your channel. You always dish out solid contents.
Now I understand why Mark & his father destroyed robot & his squad
I was just going to re watch some of your invincible videos and then this popped up
I never use my Amazon video prime stuff until Omni Man came out
Vinland saga and the boys are why I even got prime video!
Invincible gives me another reason to keep it!
@@anyhonywilliams6160 sounds like I got two more shows to watch, I read the manga for Vinland sage,
@@porkchop1659 The manga is excellent!!
Show is fantastic IMO, plus bloody
If you have not seen the boys, please give it a try....if you like Omni man, you'll love Homelander.
@@anyhonywilliams6160 I will definitely watch the boys too! I appreciate you taking the time to let me know thank you
Wow I can't believe Omni Man is gay that's crazy
Man I love this guy. Knows what's what, does what needs to be done, and he has a heart.
Cecil was a great leader honestly, true grey morality, but he did what was best. He made use of even his enemies.
His flaw was not being able to detect when someone is going undercover. Omni Man, and later Robot being the most major examples.
Literally was just trying to look him up! Thank you!
We got you bro!
Thank you for making these videos !
Thank God! I've been asking for this one!!
The technology in the Invincible universe is really impressive
You guys deserve a metal for the good content. Are you guys going to do a how powerful is ( insert invincible character)?
Damn he choose to keep the scar to remind himself of the people he got killed. What a character
When faced with existential threats on the daily, you can't afford to lose. I completely understand why ceicel did what he did.
I love this character, and his voice actor does a great job
Walton goggins is so good in this role.
I’m excited to this character in more seasons.
Let’s gooo such a great series keep it up
thanks for these videos. i love cecil
This character is really interesting and tragic
Plot twist: Cecil uses the Mauler twins create a younger clone. Creates an upgrade suite and becomes the Batman the invincible earth needs!!!
He will be the kryptonite for all Viltrums
Ohhh yeaahhh
Keep the good work up can’t wait to see a new video 😁
Been waiting for this
I love that he’s different from all the other men on top that are very authoritative and make stupid decisions
I haven't read the comics yet, so I was shocked to see 'Pitt' is in the series... I used to collect that comic when it first came out in the 90's.
Love your invincible content.
Boss
Love these videos and this comic/show
I don't know if this is an option but if you could make a video basically about the whole comic series from beginning to end, all major scenes and arcs once you finish all the character explanations. It's hard to keep track of what goes on in the story without going back and forth into videos but that's up to you
When I saw Robot slice Cecil's throat in the comic, I thought maybe he could get to a medic fast enough, and then Robot stomped his head.
ty for this it was so comprehensive, i love cecil.
I’ve been waiting for this one
Moment when you realise Cecil is doing what darkwing was supposed to do
Cecil seems to adamantly follow the saying "Si vis pacem para bellum"
If anybody wonders what this means it say if you want peace prepare for war
Watching 4 ads in a 15 minute video was super cool thank u
12:02 oh fu-
LOL, love how this comic balances the comedy
Cecil is like Nick fury with a Amanda waller trait
Anyone notice spawn in the invincible war conferming this comic has a heaven and a hell
Oou I just got done work and this made my day soo much better 🤟🏽
Is this a re-upload? I swear I watched this this morning
If Cecil made into live-action he must be played by Hugo Weaving
This. Hugo Weaving's voice and his calm demeanour will be unique as Cecil.
Clint Eastwood
Ay Spawn is here!, Can't wait to see him in the show
I like how you changed the pronunciation of Cecil's name to how it was in the show. Thought I was going to have to hear sessile again xD