I've been working hard to get these videos to you guys asap but because I also have streaming and other matters to attend to, I might need to take an off day with these so the Append video might not make it in time for the launch of the update but I'm still gonna aim to get it out soon. Thank you for all the positive feedback, it's keeping me motivated ❤
That's fine Myst. You've been working hard but don't overwork yourself just for us. Personally I would like you to focus on yourself rather then push yourself.
Every night I go to bed feeling grateful that I have one friend on JP that has a lvl 120 NP5 Morgan w/ a lvl 100 MLB Kscope and maxed out skills and append skills. Idk who he is, but I pray for that man's wallet
While not nearly on the same scale, I recently NP6'd Saber Lily (didn't have her until she showed up in FP gacha) and Mana Loading would've been very welcome for her as at NP5 her NP outdamages my NP1 Salter's.
For people who are complaining about the ember and qp cost then just ignore this system unless you REALLY love a servant. Only focus on append skills like mana load and if the servant has a good anti class skill. Outside of that for those who do want to use the system again just go for who u like. This game will never demand the need for anything like this
Or if you want, use the lvl 120 system on your much more lower rarity servants like Spartacus, bunyan and arash and have them be the proper levels of power their kits deserve. But in all seriousness, use the append coins on the servants you know you won't be grailing on just their mana loading skills. that's all you really need most of the time.
@@amari7782 Dont 5 stars always scale best though? Ir is it just the fact that low rarities start to scale better from 100 to 120 than they do up to 100?
@@frankmarano1118 You get more value in general from low stars than 5 stars since most 5 stars stats tend to be fairly high as is especially with gold fous. Not to mention again it’s much harder to get a 120 5 star that a low star so investing in them is much more realistic
@@amari7782 Yeah I feel that. Funnily enough it's been easier for me to append skill my five star servants because I've got 5 or 6 of them at NP2 & any duplicates of 4 stars I have isnt normally past NP2 besides a few I have at NP3. Thats even me being F2P besides guarenteed gachas. Getting a five star to NP3 may be easier for some people than 6 copies of a 4 star because if you get really lucky one day getting space ishtar twice in a ten pull youd only need one more copy of her rather than a bunch of 4 star duplicates But yeah at least for the lower rarity servants you can get enough duplicates to 120 them pretty quickly if you have a bunch of friebd points ready to go. I'm actually kind of glad I havent summoned angra yet now since his coins arent retroactive. Welfare servants really get the short end if the stick here, bot sure why they didnt retroactively give coins for them
Since it first came to JP, I always thought of level 120 as a scam. The requirements are just way to high, and I find these resources are better spent on getting multiple other Servants to level 100. I like way too many characters in this game and I cant just forsake them for the sake of only one. But if anyone has an absolute favourite Servant, the one above all, then I guess its worth it... maybe... possibly...
for most servants, the coins will be used on append skills. that is actually fine for most of them. But for people who really have servants they want to use a lot, Lvl 120 is something worth considering. especially if they are not 5 stars and are in fact 1 stars where you can get gacha coins from FP gacha. it's not enough to make them world breakers but having them be around 4 star range is nice. besides who doesn't want to spend their grails on a lvl 120 Arash only to have him press the nuclear launch codes and blow himself up. a good use of Grails I say
Level 120 servant is definitely more powerful and sometimes you just need that additional HP or Atk to beat the stage. Though it's extremely expensive 🙃
I mean the exp cards isn't really that big, I've been playing for 7 years and I maxed all my 3 stars below so exp cards are just lying in there. The coins are tricky but the only expensive one is QP.
All of that to say, for those who don’t both play religiously and whale out of their minds, getting any 4*-5* servant above level 100 is basically impossible… that’s rough, buddy
not really , getting a 4* to np5+ isnt that hard , especially in NA , just will power and focus their different rate ups ,for bond lving you just need to use them a lot
@@morsayxd4441 Me, who has already had the hell of not getting any 4* character with 300+ sq: Yes, it's not that difficult, of course! It's really easy to get the character you want with a little willpower! :)
@@morsayxd4441 It can be hard when it depends on the luck of the gacha lol. I've had instances were I use a ton of sq & barely get 1 copy of the 4* servant on rate up.
On the note of whaling. I am a f2p here. Saved up 1,6k+ sq and 300+ tickets, took me about a year, maybe a bit more to do it. Got myself an np5 avanger Nobu(limited 5 star) + some other ssr spooks with a little bit less than that amount. The real true and abhorrent problem of fgo are the banners. Here is what I mean: initially I wanted to spend it all on Shiki, whose only banner was about near the new year, who will not return for at minimum ANOTHER 2 YEARS, and the reason of me failing to get her - was simply the game lagging and crushing that day for some reason.
Yeah, much as I'd love to take my Godjuna to Level 120, that's not happening any time in the forseeable future. Maybe 102 or 104 during a lotto to avoid burning embers or something.
@@ShionKenobi Append will ofc be my priority. He's NP2 Bond 11 and I'm planning on maxing Mana Loading and Extra Attack first thing after the maintenance ends. EDIT: make that first thing after they fix the bug and give me his coins!
As a very dedicated artoria simp that only has her at np 1 (SSR ticket + only played for 3 months so far.) knowing I won't even be able to grail her to 120 without getting at least 2 other copies kinda hurts
a lot of servants has incredible growth going to lvl 120 though like dantes. but sadly if it's an SSR and only at NP1 then just focus on append skills.
@@litlsteps8486 yeah maybe, I don’t want to farm thousands of 5 star embers tho, I am not a whale and my ap is far more valuable to be spent on farming mats
@@frostivied9239 Honestly don't worry about grinding the 5 star embers really. Wait until lottery and just go super hard on that and you'll get all of the 4 stars and qp you could ever want in life
@@RandomRiku it still won’t be enough. I grind around 350 box last lotto (it’s not exactly comparable to the whales) and I already ran out of embers now. I am not exactly F2P but I really don’t want to spend quartz for farming outside lotto (even that I don’t usually spent too much) + I usually have at least 7 new servants, sometimes even more due to spooks every year.
Thank you for the hard work in these videos! I only play NA and didn't really bother checking how the coin system works properly, so these are very helpful. When the grail casting system arrives on NA I plan on leveling my lancer Diarmuid to 120, slowly but surely.
It feels so bad since Iskandar was my first SSR, but I missed his last rateup, so he's still NP1 for me. Which means.. Jason is gonna be my first 120- But I still feel a bit sad that I couldn't bring the One True King up where he belongs.
Remember how long it takes to go to bond 10, bond 15 is even worse.. For your level 120 SSR target, NP3 is a must, after that you'll still need to raise bond for unlocking their append skills.. Insanely time and resources consuming this whole undertaking.. Do you have a target in mind for this Myst?
Maybe you were already going to touch this topic, but in case you weren't, I think for the next video, on top of talking about the value of different append skills for different servants, it could also be interesting or useful to talk about when append skills have more value and when levels are more important. Great vid, Myst.
I might do this for my Zerkerlot and Odysseus, but with Append Skills in play, I doubt I’ll have enough copies. Appends are way more important to me than additional levels.
perfectly wrapped up , thx for the video , it will probably be useful to anyone plannig to 120 , for me in thicase planning to do it for 4* nero and emiya , btw lower rarity coin not being retroactive really is a bummer since it could really help in grail synthetizing
I forgot to comment this on the last video, but thank you Myst for these guides on coins. I don't play JP (I just don't want to be stuck in farmming hell) so I didn't know how they work or what they do. SO thank you for your work
Shouldn't the total cost of qp for 5* exp be lower? Because you are getting 3 times more exp than a 4* card, assuming the cost for each enhancement is the same.
Me, a casual player: Listen, Jalter. I love you, really, I truly love you... but you aren't worth 120. Me, after being NP2/3 [Whichever she is at.]: Mistake were made, but shall be kept.
Together with append skills, i have to go for np6, BLOODY NP6, AS A F2P, in order to fully max out Morgan (the same with every others). The pain is real...
I made the mistake of unlocking two of Bargest's append skills because I thought I would need more coins to grail her. I now calculated that at bond 15 I would have 290 left over. Literally 10 below the amount needed for 120.
Level 120 Geronimo solo carry the rest of the Lostbelts let's go Myst Edit: oh dear god I forgot how much exp they actually need. Lasagna why are you like this
QP amount doesn't seem that bad for endgamers, but the ember needed is indeed very steep. That is like 3x times the amount of ember runs needed comparing to QP runs.
Looking at my calculations for my space ishtar. Np 5 gets me 450 coins. Mana tuning takes 120 coins and 120 takes 300 coins equaling 420(blaze it). So I can get 120 and Mana tuning for space Ishtar without counting the bond level coins for the extra append skills. But only have 7 grails currently. I would be angry at the last servant who I grailed but that was astrea aka luvia so I'm not mad.
@@thereseavanastrea4662 no worries you could roll more copies when the rerun comes next year so by then you can either have bond 14 or extra copies. It's a marathon and me as a planner need time to prepare I mean seriously I had the whole coin system set up to get mega space Ishtar but I'll just get Mana tuning for loops
@@thereseavanastrea4662 I only have NP1................................ so I have no plans. I'm hoping for a Miracle on my Final GSSR.... but I'll probably get he who shall not be named and off myself. But Hey I havr Bond almost 12 NP2 Ishtar so thats something 😭😭
@@haniffadlurrahman5800 Mana tuning as it's better for castoria to have extra charge and space Ishtar already can nuke easily. 120 is more for damage while Mana tuning is an all around more useful ability as that with kscope makes mlb kscope or black grail with Mana tuning let's you do 3 turn much easier and with more flexibility in your mystic codes
After seeing these numbers I wanna cry Basically no one who is not a whale will be able to get their servant to level 120 Also by my calculations it will take you 2000 ember node runs And 600 treasure vault qp runs just to 120 one servant The equivalent to 900+ golden fruit Please tell me they have something to make it easier in the future
They give everyone a ton of free 5 star exp to get 120 with next year. Relax you can get your waifu or husbando to Max eventually Or you know do lottery and use all the exp on that servant. It's a bad system but you can get it done eventually
You could just.... not do it? If it's too painful no one is forcing you to do it. Also this is definitely not just for whales. I ain't a whale and I'm thinking about grailing to 120 three servants (BB Summer, Medusa, Melusine). Needing NP2 for a 5* isn't that huge of a hurdle, since if you are considering grailing to 120 you probably love that servant so much that you already have them higher than NP1. EDIT: You miscalculated the ember node farm count. You need around 500 runs not 2000. Assuming you are farming the new node of course.
@@pv0214 Leveling someone to 120 takes such a long time that you probably wont be far from bond 15 by then. Also they already said that the new quests are "coming soon". 5th anniversary would be my guess.
I'd prefer to wait until 5th anniversary bcs my prediction is what they probably will release the 5* EXP farming nodes in that, so I hopefully got enough coins to unlock 2 append skills on Raikou and raise her to lvl120. It'll a tough journey, but will be quite fun and worth it, Good luck too everyone who are brave enough to raise that servant you truly love at the maximum!
Wait, does this mean it's literally impossible to get Paul Bunyan to 120? A 1* welfare BRONZE servant that not only had one rerun, but also does not get retro coins, AND you would need the foresight to know to get her from the initial event PLUS the rerun. At that point you could only get 360 coins at MAX from the bond levels and you would not have enough left over to append any skills?
I used to thinkthat Iwould never grail any servant to 120. Now I am grailing medusa to 120(at 117 currently) after I have grailed Space Ishtar to 120. This is the deepest circle of hell
NA is getting really interesting now! if this goes over well for Lasagna, then they will be encouraged to add other things early. anything is on the table :D
Let's say you want to rush to 120 lvl from lvl 100 (by consuming gold apples) Let's say the *5 exp node is 1/2 AP cost a.k.a 20AP You need 5015 exp (no matching class) / 9 exp (each battle) That means to need to complete 557 battles 557 battles x 20 AP = 11.140 AP Lets say your max AP is 142 11.140 / 142 = 78~79 golden apples That's it, i wish we will get 1/2 AP cost for ember gathering
One other thing to maybe include in calculations is that it should be preferably done during bonus success chance periods. Especially the upcoming anniversary has the only 5x succ chance the game has ever seen which would save a lot of exp.
@Much Luck Yeah it’s a singular enemy but they drop 3 embers so you still get 9 for the run. So the only downside is depending on your farming set up the higher HP single enemy on the final wave might make it harder to kill for some.
Curently there is still active bonus exp (x2) for last free 5star servants active. It might somewhat help with embers if you want to lvl up( and have means for it)
Sad life. The only servant that I own and that I'd want to max up to level 120 is Heracles. Heracles is still only np2 and he doesn't seem to be getting any rate ups anytime soon. Just gonna hope and pray for some more spooks
47m qp and 1254 embers every two levels. Yeah, nah. Fuck that shit. No servant is worth investing that many resources into, the opportunity cost is nuts. I'll just ignore this update and keep grailing to 100
Tbh I haven't found it THAT hard to 120 a servant. That is if you spread out levelling. I 120'd Caren but i did it over the course of 6 months so i only had to do on average 3 - 4 levels a month. I still plan on 120ing Erice, Oda, Okita and Himiko. I do think this is something for people that are very late game. Also just doing your daily ap on the 5* ember quests racks up a lot more exp than you would imagine. You get around 2 complete ap recharges so that's 280 ap so that's 7 runs times 9 is 63 5* exp every day. (that's still 79 days worth of putting all your ap on the ember quests but it's something)
Glad this new system is out until next year, now we can level up the level 90 servants a HECKA LOT more easier. Just have to hit the one you want three to five times then take a break until next rotation. 😊😑
I really wish that we could get a consistent source of All-Class embers. I'm lv 111/120 for my summer kama so it's ruff out here. Would be nice if we could get 5* All embers in lottos more consistently or more frequently.
I have hundreds of 4* Embers in my present box that will expire next month if I don't use them. I'm probably going to grail someone to 102 just so that I don't waste them.
@@MystFGO Oh I'm going to grail them anyway, but I'm still debating on who to start with. It's either Kama or Chen Gong, but Gong needs Mana Loading and Kama could use the Extra Attack boost.
Not really planning to lvl anyone pass lvl 100 but it's good to know cause who knows maybe one day a servant that is to my liking will be release and if i get lucky enough to get them to np5 which will probably never happen as I am an f2p but who knows. For now those will be my conditions when leveling to 120. Unless they give something like universal servant coins or you make them farmable in like certain events then my conditions will remain.
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Will you lvl120 Reines and Astraea?
@@Tono_112 No 120 as of right now, but I will consider some.
That's fine Myst. You've been working hard but don't overwork yourself just for us. Personally I would like you to focus on yourself rather then push yourself.
Take your time, much luck to you. I appreciate these tons.
Every night I go to bed feeling grateful that I have one friend on JP that has a lvl 120 NP5 Morgan w/ a lvl 100 MLB Kscope and maxed out skills and append skills. Idk who he is, but I pray for that man's wallet
dayum
That guy must have no internal organs anymore.
@@Press_X_to_doubt Some limbs might also be not there
damn, getting at least 6 copy of morgan (since np 5 only give you 630 coins, which is 30 short of lv 120 and 3 append)
@@dimensionvisitor7689 unless Morgan already Bond 15
I can't wait to have a level 120 servant of each class in 2037.
For me its 3000 cuz finishing singularities and lb takes time
Looks like I'm gonna wait for the 5*ember daily before getting my Hans to 120
When are they coming
@@orfeaskyriacou442 6th anni i think
@@Otto04_ They moved it further to 5th anniversary
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It's not a race guys, it's journey.
Wise
The journey of a lifetime, yes.
100 was such a perfect number...
Me before the video:I bet it will be expensive but not that much.
Me After the video:So,this how you show how much do you really love a servant.
Angra's coins not being retroactively given makes me and my 8 copies of him sad
While not nearly on the same scale, I recently NP6'd Saber Lily (didn't have her until she showed up in FP gacha) and Mana Loading would've been very welcome for her as at NP5 her NP outdamages my NP1 Salter's.
Dang. That’s a lotta FP luck. My Angry Mango is only NP7
@@JaimeNyx15 I still don't have him after over a year of playing lmao
I've been playing NA since the first prisma codes event and JP since gudaguda3 rerun and I still only have 1 copy on each account
@@JaimeNyx15 You guys are getting copies of Angra?
Lmao, the ember cost for one level is greater than the entire second archive's storage
For people who are complaining about the ember and qp cost then just ignore this system unless you REALLY love a servant.
Only focus on append skills like mana load and if the servant has a good anti class skill.
Outside of that for those who do want to use the system again just go for who u like.
This game will never demand the need for anything like this
Or if you want, use the lvl 120 system on your much more lower rarity servants like Spartacus, bunyan and arash and have them be the proper levels of power their kits deserve.
But in all seriousness, use the append coins on the servants you know you won't be grailing on just their mana loading skills. that's all you really need most of the time.
@@muchluck7981 no no you’re talking facts low rarities get the most value from being 120
@@amari7782 Dont 5 stars always scale best though? Ir is it just the fact that low rarities start to scale better from 100 to 120 than they do up to 100?
@@frankmarano1118 You get more value in general from low stars than 5 stars since most 5 stars stats tend to be fairly high as is especially with gold fous.
Not to mention again it’s much harder to get a 120 5 star that a low star so investing in them is much more realistic
@@amari7782 Yeah I feel that. Funnily enough it's been easier for me to append skill my five star servants because I've got 5 or 6 of them at NP2 & any duplicates of 4 stars I have isnt normally past NP2 besides a few I have at NP3. Thats even me being F2P besides guarenteed gachas. Getting a five star to NP3 may be easier for some people than 6 copies of a 4 star because if you get really lucky one day getting space ishtar twice in a ten pull youd only need one more copy of her rather than a bunch of 4 star duplicates
But yeah at least for the lower rarity servants you can get enough duplicates to 120 them pretty quickly if you have a bunch of friebd points ready to go. I'm actually kind of glad I havent summoned angra yet now since his coins arent retroactive. Welfare servants really get the short end if the stick here, bot sure why they didnt retroactively give coins for them
Since it first came to JP, I always thought of level 120 as a scam. The requirements are just way to high, and I find these resources are better spent on getting multiple other Servants to level 100. I like way too many characters in this game and I cant just forsake them for the sake of only one.
But if anyone has an absolute favourite Servant, the one above all, then I guess its worth it... maybe... possibly...
for most servants, the coins will be used on append skills. that is actually fine for most of them.
But for people who really have servants they want to use a lot, Lvl 120 is something worth considering. especially if they are not 5 stars and are in fact 1 stars where you can get gacha coins from FP gacha. it's not enough to make them world breakers but having them be around 4 star range is nice.
besides who doesn't want to spend their grails on a lvl 120 Arash only to have him press the nuclear launch codes and blow himself up. a good use of Grails I say
For someone who qp reverse hell. I think they can finally be free
Level 120 servant is definitely more powerful and sometimes you just need that additional HP or Atk to beat the stage. Though it's extremely expensive 🙃
I mean the exp cards isn't really that big, I've been playing for 7 years and I maxed all my 3 stars below so exp cards are just lying in there. The coins are tricky but the only expensive one is QP.
@@Xaynew Hate to tell you this, but most players haven't been playing for 7 years and don't have every servant in the game maxed out.
Really adds value to those lottery events since they have such large XP and QP drops.
If only they didn't insist on sticking both at the end of the year all the time.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 next year Nerofest is at the start of the year.
only if I don't kept getting flipping finals around that time of the year
Just a reminder, the leveling requirements can be mitigated by leveling up on a great success/super success campaign so that it won't be too costly.
All of that to say, for those who don’t both play religiously and whale out of their minds, getting any 4*-5* servant above level 100 is basically impossible… that’s rough, buddy
Yes but no but yeah, basically be a luck sacking god and pray you get what you want everytime
not really , getting a 4* to np5+ isnt that hard , especially in NA , just will power and focus their different rate ups ,for bond lving you just need to use them a lot
@@morsayxd4441 Me, who has already had the hell of not getting any 4* character with 300+ sq: Yes, it's not that difficult, of course! It's really easy to get the character you want with a little willpower! :)
@@morsayxd4441 It can be hard when it depends on the luck of the gacha lol. I've had instances were I use a ton of sq & barely get 1 copy of the 4* servant on rate up.
On the note of whaling. I am a f2p here. Saved up 1,6k+ sq and 300+ tickets, took me about a year, maybe a bit more to do it. Got myself an np5 avanger Nobu(limited 5 star) + some other ssr spooks with a little bit less than that amount.
The real true and abhorrent problem of fgo are the banners. Here is what I mean: initially I wanted to spend it all on Shiki, whose only banner was about near the new year, who will not return for at minimum ANOTHER 2 YEARS, and the reason of me failing to get her - was simply the game lagging and crushing that day for some reason.
this has to be the most grindiest thing ive ever seen in my life for a video game. and thats saying something...
Yeah, much as I'd love to take my Godjuna to Level 120, that's not happening any time in the forseeable future. Maybe 102 or 104 during a lotto to avoid burning embers or something.
same here... I have nearly 2000 fou Godj as well and looked forward to 120..
I think its not worth it for now
Same here, but with Grand Romulus, it's my favourite servant of all time (with Lancelot and Salieri) but it's just too much
Dont forget to reserve some coins for the append...
@@ShionKenobi Append will ofc be my priority. He's NP2 Bond 11 and I'm planning on maxing Mana Loading and Extra Attack first thing after the maintenance ends. EDIT: make that first thing after they fix the bug and give me his coins!
As a very dedicated artoria simp that only has her at np 1 (SSR ticket + only played for 3 months so far.) knowing I won't even be able to grail her to 120 without getting at least 2 other copies kinda hurts
luckily we will get another ssr ticket in the future, I don't remember when exactly tho
Me:why okita summer?
Myst: because rerun.
Me:fair enough
because waifu
Leveling to 120 is probably something I will never do due to the amount of work (exp) it require lol. Will make great use of the append skills though.
a lot of servants has incredible growth going to lvl 120 though like dantes. but sadly if it's an SSR and only at NP1 then just focus on append skills.
@@litlsteps8486 yeah maybe, I don’t want to farm thousands of 5 star embers tho, I am not a whale and my ap is far more valuable to be spent on farming mats
@@frostivied9239 Honestly don't worry about grinding the 5 star embers really. Wait until lottery and just go super hard on that and you'll get all of the 4 stars and qp you could ever want in life
@@RandomRiku it still won’t be enough. I grind around 350 box last lotto (it’s not exactly comparable to the whales) and I already ran out of embers now. I am not exactly F2P but I really don’t want to spend quartz for farming outside lotto (even that I don’t usually spent too much) + I usually have at least 7 new servants, sometimes even more due to spooks every year.
Thanks for this myst. Never thought grailing past 100 cost this MUCH.
Thank you for the hard work in these videos! I only play NA and didn't really bother checking how the coin system works properly, so these are very helpful.
When the grail casting system arrives on NA I plan on leveling my lancer Diarmuid to 120, slowly but surely.
Good husbando tastes.
@@thattastedpurple4246 thanks, he deserves the love.
It feels so bad since Iskandar was my first SSR, but I missed his last rateup, so he's still NP1 for me.
Which means..
Jason is gonna be my first 120- But I still feel a bit sad that I couldn't bring the One True King up where he belongs.
Tfw you got a np 4 iskandar you didnt ask for..
Meanwhile my np 4 Ozzy and Abby will do gr8 things!
Remember how long it takes to go to bond 10, bond 15 is even worse..
For your level 120 SSR target, NP3 is a must, after that you'll still need to raise bond for unlocking their append skills..
Insanely time and resources consuming this whole undertaking..
Do you have a target in mind for this Myst?
Unless there’s a 5 star you like THAT much treat it the same as regular grailing. Don’t bother with it too much
I know that he hasn't committed to anyone in JP. Whether that holds true for NA is another story
I don't have any plans for a 120 right now, but especially if Grail Casting drops early too, I will be considering some options.
Great content man. Im loving these guide variety videos, they’re super useful! Keep up the great work
Maybe you were already going to touch this topic, but in case you weren't, I think for the next video, on top of talking about the value of different append skills for different servants, it could also be interesting or useful to talk about when append skills have more value and when levels are more important.
Great vid, Myst.
I'll try to cover it too but gotta focus on the essentials first.
everyone gangsta until you want to lvl 120 old welfare
I might do this for my Zerkerlot and Odysseus, but with Append Skills in play, I doubt I’ll have enough copies. Appends are way more important to me than additional levels.
As they should be
Dude you explain really well and go straight to the point, i like you
perfectly wrapped up , thx for the video , it will probably be useful to anyone plannig to 120 , for me in thicase planning to do it for 4* nero and emiya , btw lower rarity coin not being retroactive really is a bummer since it could really help in grail synthetizing
I forgot to comment this on the last video, but thank you Myst for these guides on coins. I don't play JP (I just don't want to be stuck in farmming hell) so I didn't know how they work or what they do. SO thank you for your work
Thanks, Myst!
I therefore remove the Caster Curse from you!
Shouldn't the total cost of qp for 5* exp be lower? Because you are getting 3 times more exp than a 4* card, assuming the cost for each enhancement is the same.
Ah very true, this is what happens when I do too much math.. Yes the QP for using 5* EXP should be lower.
@@MystFGO understandable, math can be PAINful
Thank you for these videos! I really needed an explanation on how the system works, so much appreciated
Me, a casual player: Listen, Jalter. I love you, really, I truly love you... but you aren't worth 120.
Me, after being NP2/3 [Whichever she is at.]: Mistake were made, but shall be kept.
Dang, those are some big numbers
Together with append skills, i have to go for np6, BLOODY NP6, AS A F2P, in order to fully max out Morgan (the same with every others).
The pain is real...
It do be like that
Thanks for this info. I was considering doing lv 120 for one of my servants. But i'm not sure it worth putting in the effort.
Gonna have the world's buffest Anne archer. Calling my shot now. Also thanks for doing these vids Myst, they're good breakdowns.
I made the mistake of unlocking two of Bargest's append skills because I thought I would need more coins to grail her. I now calculated that at bond 15 I would have 290 left over. Literally 10 below the amount needed for 120.
118 gang I guess, ahaha. But man, that stings
You know what, no thanks. I'm okay with level 100. Jfc...
Thanks a lot for your math-efforts dude
Thanks for going through the math for us so we don't have to hurt our small brain man. Props to you my dude 👌
The ultimate proof of love
I'm ready for it
Level 120 Geronimo solo carry the rest of the Lostbelts let's go Myst
Edit: oh dear god I forgot how much exp they actually need. Lasagna why are you like this
QP amount doesn't seem that bad for endgamers, but the ember needed is indeed very steep.
That is like 3x times the amount of ember runs needed comparing to QP runs.
Looking at my calculations for my space ishtar. Np 5 gets me 450 coins. Mana tuning takes 120 coins and 120 takes 300 coins equaling 420(blaze it). So I can get 120 and Mana tuning for space Ishtar without counting the bond level coins for the extra append skills.
But only have 7 grails currently. I would be angry at the last servant who I grailed but that was astrea aka luvia so I'm not mad.
I need 2 more copies and bond 14 for my Space rin so I feel like I'm into really deep shit right now
@@thereseavanastrea4662 no worries you could roll more copies when the rerun comes next year so by then you can either have bond 14 or extra copies. It's a marathon and me as a planner need time to prepare
I mean seriously I had the whole coin system set up to get mega space Ishtar but I'll just get Mana tuning for loops
@@thereseavanastrea4662 I only have NP1................................ so I have no plans. I'm hoping for a Miracle on my Final GSSR.... but I'll probably get he who shall not be named and off myself. But Hey I havr Bond almost 12 NP2 Ishtar so thats something 😭😭
for universal farmer like space ishtar which one is more important mana loading or lvl 120? i only have non mlb kscope
@@haniffadlurrahman5800 Mana tuning as it's better for castoria to have extra charge and space Ishtar already can nuke easily.
120 is more for damage while Mana tuning is an all around more useful ability as that with kscope makes mlb kscope or black grail with Mana tuning let's you do 3 turn much easier and with more flexibility in your mystic codes
i decided that im never leveling a servant to 120, no matter what
its too time and resource consuming
I passed out seeing the numbers of the "Costs from level 100 to level 120:"
in summary: painge
What the heck it’s extremely expensive in gahca and exp what where they thinking????
Thankfully my proper 120 target isn't until 2 years from the time of this post (Aoko) so good to know what I need in advance.
Love the informative vids! Keep up the good work
After seeing these numbers
I wanna cry
Basically no one who is not a whale will be able to get their servant to level 120
Also by my calculations it will take you
2000 ember node runs
And 600 treasure vault qp runs just to 120 one servant
The equivalent to 900+ golden fruit
Please tell me they have something to make it easier in the future
They give everyone a ton of free 5 star exp to get 120 with next year. Relax you can get your waifu or husbando to Max eventually
Or you know do lottery and use all the exp on that servant. It's a bad system but you can get it done eventually
You could just.... not do it? If it's too painful no one is forcing you to do it.
Also this is definitely not just for whales. I ain't a whale and I'm thinking about grailing to 120 three servants (BB Summer, Medusa, Melusine). Needing NP2 for a 5* isn't that huge of a hurdle, since if you are considering grailing to 120 you probably love that servant so much that you already have them higher than NP1.
EDIT: You miscalculated the ember node farm count. You need around 500 runs not 2000. Assuming you are farming the new node of course.
@@aizeroth8858
I'm not gonna do it
Also at Np2 you need bond level 15 for 5 stars
And they won't release the new farming nodes yet
“Basically no one who is not a whale will be able to get their servant to level 120” only applies if your favourite is a 5*.
@@pv0214 Leveling someone to 120 takes such a long time that you probably wont be far from bond 15 by then. Also they already said that the new quests are "coming soon". 5th anniversary would be my guess.
Fgo being not a scam as always.
I'd prefer to wait until 5th anniversary bcs my prediction is what they probably will release the 5* EXP farming nodes in that, so I hopefully got enough coins to unlock 2 append skills on Raikou and raise her to lvl120.
It'll a tough journey, but will be quite fun and worth it, Good luck too everyone who are brave enough to raise that servant you truly love at the maximum!
A small price to pay to make Super Orion punch even harder.
I want to take my Mandricardo to level 120 but bruh.... I think will be necessary more than 2 years... (I'm not a great farmer)
So for f2p players, what is better for a ssr leveling to 120 or unlock append? 😵💫
Wait, does this mean it's literally impossible to get Paul Bunyan to 120? A 1* welfare BRONZE servant that not only had one rerun, but also does not get retro coins, AND you would need the foresight to know to get her from the initial event PLUS the rerun. At that point you could only get 360 coins at MAX from the bond levels and you would not have enough left over to append any skills?
Her coins are included in the Riyo Collab Event shop, 480 coins total available there. But as an NA player you need to wait nearly 2 years for that.
I used to thinkthat Iwould never grail any servant to 120. Now I am grailing medusa to 120(at 117 currently) after I have grailed Space Ishtar to 120. This is the deepest circle of hell
I gotta finish babylon
But i'm saving for castoria,after i get her and koyan
I'll save for my eresh-chan and salter-chan to 120 them
Its time to 120 my chloe to avoid FBI forever...
i plan on getting my np2 king hassan at 120, i have np2 so i think i should be fine
NA is getting really interesting now! if this goes over well for Lasagna, then they will be encouraged to add other things early. anything is on the table :D
Damn, I can see the farming hell in the near future. Great vid as always mr streamer
That 12,538 exp., hit me hard..... Great Content video though!
Let's say you want to rush to 120 lvl from lvl 100 (by consuming gold apples)
Let's say the *5 exp node is 1/2 AP cost a.k.a 20AP
You need 5015 exp (no matching class) / 9 exp (each battle)
That means to need to complete 557 battles
557 battles x 20 AP = 11.140 AP
Lets say your max AP is 142
11.140 / 142 = 78~79 golden apples
That's it, i wish we will get 1/2 AP cost for ember gathering
One other thing to maybe include in calculations is that it should be preferably done during bonus success chance periods. Especially the upcoming anniversary has the only 5x succ chance the game has ever seen which would save a lot of exp.
Thank you for this video, as depressing as it is to see I cant get my Angry Mango to 120 ever, its still really helpful
One day Kiyohime will be level 120, but it'll cost me everything
What i need is shit ton of qp and embers. And storage space for it...
P.s Jesus wtf with this number's of embers and qp?!?
Don't worry, We will get the newest nodes that JP has for farming. the downside is that the 3rd wave is a singular enemy if I remember right
@Much Luck
Yeah it’s a singular enemy but they drop 3 embers so you still get 9 for the run. So the only downside is depending on your farming set up the higher HP single enemy on the final wave might make it harder to kill for some.
"Five, *golden* rings. . ."
Curently there is still active bonus exp (x2) for last free 5star servants active. It might somewhat help with embers if you want to lvl up( and have means for it)
Even now almost a year after the system got added in JP, I still haven't come across a single player with more then 1 servant over 100
thanks for the vid , u explain it very clearly
I am about to cry after watching those numbers holy f
Jeezus. This isnt like a ‘save and pump’ thing. This is a gradual feeding of embers. For a really long time.
I don't think I'm ever even going to bother with this lmao
Thanks again for the information, Myst.
How could I ever get Fujino to Lv120 then...
Summer 5 rerun banner:hello
i'll dump everything to illya, my will be one and only grailed, and 120
Sad life. The only servant that I own and that I'd want to max up to level 120 is Heracles. Heracles is still only np2 and he doesn't seem to be getting any rate ups anytime soon. Just gonna hope and pray for some more spooks
Best of luck
how to make players stay: make a long term goal content
Greatly explained! Keep it up :)
Oh boy, time to roll 100 extra Jasons. *pain*
thanks for the info, super helpful.
after grailing morgan to 120, i don't want to grail anyone else to 120 again
well.... maybe i'll grail summer kama to 120 too hehe
47m qp and 1254 embers every two levels.
Yeah, nah. Fuck that shit. No servant is worth investing that many resources into, the opportunity cost is nuts. I'll just ignore this update and keep grailing to 100
Tbh I haven't found it THAT hard to 120 a servant. That is if you spread out levelling. I 120'd Caren but i did it over the course of 6 months so i only had to do on average 3 - 4 levels a month. I still plan on 120ing Erice, Oda, Okita and Himiko. I do think this is something for people that are very late game.
Also just doing your daily ap on the 5* ember quests racks up a lot more exp than you would imagine. You get around 2 complete ap recharges so that's 280 ap so that's 7 runs times 9 is 63 5* exp every day. (that's still 79 days worth of putting all your ap on the ember quests but it's something)
I struggled to max my Jason to lvl 120, I pray for those people that plan to max their 5 star lmao
rip my sanity after watching this
Good thing I've been saving up my QP and friend points... Level 120 Nobukatsu, here I come!
Thank fuck they said they would be bringing the new nodes out soon.
Glad this new system is out until next year, now we can level up the level 90 servants a HECKA LOT more easier.
Just have to hit the one you want three to five times then take a break until next rotation. 😊😑
I really wish that we could get a consistent source of All-Class embers. I'm lv 111/120 for my summer kama so it's ruff out here. Would be nice if we could get 5* All embers in lottos more consistently or more frequently.
"I just got lucky and now have 4 Super Orions. Maybe I should level him to 120."
After watching
"What if I don't."
I might need to fish more copies of Zerkerlot to grail him to 120
This makes the level up system from bleach brave souls look like a walk in the park for me XD
my journey to 120 arcueid is long and daunting but neco arc is holding me hostage
I see, I see. So the idea to get Taira and Sakamoto lancer up to np2 is still the good move.
Yoshitsune needs np2 for her np anyway otherwise most of her dmg is coming from her face cards
Absolutely unreasonable grind, will never do this and just go with the supper useful append skills instead.
I have hundreds of 4* Embers in my present box that will expire next month if I don't use them. I'm probably going to grail someone to 102 just so that I don't waste them.
You prob shouldnt grail someone to just not waste exp, unless you plan on grailing them more later too. Exp is always replaceable, grails aren't.
@@MystFGO Oh I'm going to grail them anyway, but I'm still debating on who to start with. It's either Kama or Chen Gong, but Gong needs Mana Loading and Kama could use the Extra Attack boost.
Not really planning to lvl anyone pass lvl 100 but it's good to know cause who knows maybe one day a servant that is to my liking will be release and if i get lucky enough to get them to np5 which will probably never happen as I am an f2p but who knows. For now those will be my conditions when leveling to 120. Unless they give something like universal servant coins or you make them farmable in like certain events then my conditions will remain.