I have to admit, it felt good to see my Grizzly at the top of this list. I was about to get the Sportsman 1000 but it came down the dealer experience. I’m totally happy with my ATV choice. 👍 Theses are all great machines, as are so many more. Well done, man. Fun to watch.
Our ranch pole barn had a concrete berm across the doorway to keep water out. One of the first lessons i ever learned about ATVs was zipping into the barn and crushing my toes between that berm and the steel footpeg on our Yamaha moto4. I remember that lesson every time i see a machine without the full footwells.
@Michael Patrick I'm used to go mine looks. But it looks better now that I put 27x10 zillas on all four corners. It was a tough decision for me because the grizz did look better on the showroom floor but the v twin won out.
@@edwardcampbell3420 grizzly has more ground clearance arched a arms better lights better tires better power steering better 4wd system better warranty more storage space lighter and better on gas and more suspension travel...sooooo lol
King quad 750 has great build quality and long term reliability ...its fast and smooth for every need you have. But to each his own..I've owed a few bikes on this list...all were pretty good.
@@brianspader1162 Thanks man! I didn't think you were butthurt, I like hearing from dudes who like their machines and why they like them.. I try to use that feedback in my vids whenever possible..
I've got the XTR now, it's freaking awesome. Rode the 850 , immensely powerful but completely unusable power in the woods. The Grizz has loads of torque too and its build quality really is second to none. Having Duel brakes is a pretty big advantage too since most single action breaks are rear biased and can get you some serious trouble if you aren't careful
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VERY underrated. Yamaha makes GREAT machines, but doesn’t seem to get much love in the ATV community. People will soon come to realize one day. Mark my words!
I’ve owned several EPS Brutes and an Outlander 850. Love them for what they are. Also owned arctic cat (don’t want to discuss that) and had terrible experiences with Polaris. Polaris may have gotten better since the last ones I’ve owned but couldn’t go back after multiple issues across several quads. I now have a 2019 Grizzly 700 SE with clutch mods, tuner and exhaust and is phenomenal. As far a trail machine it’s incredible. It’s the Swiss Army knife of atvs! At the end of the day, you need a Gruzzly for general trail riding and ANY twin cylinder from Can-Am/Polaris/Kawasaki for just all out grins. Confucius say - Man need Grizzly for trails, Man need twin cylinder for thrills. Buy both, it’s the secret to true happiness.
Yep I hear you loud and clear! Currently have a 2004 Arctic Cat 400 4x4 (wish I didn’t) a 2018 Sportsman 570sp (its great looking but weakly built imo) that Im about to sell and just picked up a brand BF750 that is a monster! Debated between this and the Grizzly 700, but went with this. Yamaha offers more trim pieces with the XTR model, but those are impossible to find.
Artic Cat and Polaris machines are considered junk here in my area, don't make the mistake of buying either of these brands because of some guys bragging video!! You might be sorry if you do!
I was 6'1, 300+ lbs on a Honda Recon going up the backway to CrownKing, AZ back in highschool. I never once needed more power. Gear selection, for me, is absolutely essential when trail-riding and rock-crawling. Eitherwise you only get a fraction of the power in each gear.
I've ridden both but not back to back.. I prefer the Grizz myself because it feels more agile, I like the EPS, and the Ergos are just more familiar to me.. That doesn't mean it's the right for everyone.. If you like the KingQuad better, that's awesome! I do think the KQ has a bit more power and I love the footwells on it.. KQ is super solid..
This bearded chubby fellow, agree's with this list. But thinks D.O might be missing out on one of the best trail cruising machines. I personally have a soft spot in my heart for the KQ 500, I personally have found KQ's in general to be very smooth riding/engaging running machines. It may not make the hair stand up on your neck, but it will treat you right on a long day's trail ride. Just my 2 cents. Love the video's as always.
Honestly people say this a lot but, I sincerely mean this is an amazing video! It shares to a more broad range, realistic crowd. Well done! I have watch many of you’re videos and enjoy them all. This is an under rated with not near enough followers as it should have. Keep up the good work!
Definitely solid choices. I definitely think the Polaris, Sportsman 570 Should get a fair shake. The 570 has become a very reliable engine and the actual ride is pretty legendary. They're 2021 model Is a pretty incredible machine.
You are in the middle of the woods and have 1 gallon of gas left. Now which one is your pick? When I ride with my buddies on the trails we are typically 30mph or less so speed isn't a big factor. However they are looking pretty nervous after a few hours running the 700cc + bikes while my rancher 420 and foreman 500 still have plenty in the tank. They treated me good enough to justify the rubicon 520 I just bought.
Just got a 2012 850 outlander road it a couple of times but having trouble with the fan not turning on and it getting hot. any ideas I got another fan plugged it in and the same thing the fan will not turn on??
Thank you I appreciate you getting back to me I already checked the relay so I will check the temperature gauge as it goes into limp mode with high temps...
Grizzly 700👍🏻👍🏻 I was surprised to not see the kingquad 750, it’s comparable to the grizzly 700. And interestingly enough, the two grizzly 700 in our moose hunt group, didn’t want to pull the moose out,..no worries, kingquad took care of it🍻🤷🏼♂️🤙🏻
The kingquad is a good machine for sure, but this video was about trail riding specifically.. The Grizzly handles quite a bit better and is less clunky than the KQ.. All personal preference though, both great machines.. 👍
I’ve rode both the king seemed way smoother in every way the engine don’t vibrate near as much way easier to switch gears ,The Yamaha does do better at high speeds though, but this new King is hard to beat Suzuki has stepped there game up big time
Great list! My Raptor 700R and Kodiak 700 EPS have both been incredible. You will run out of suspension performance & rider ability on a Grizzly long before power for fast trail riding. Agree that the Can Am 650 is criminally underrated. It is the hidden gem in their lineup. The Rubicons look badass, 518cc be damned, they still look great. The higher trim Rubicon pricing is a bit suspect though, for what you’re getting...
Great video brothers and I’d say y’all nailed it and I have to agree that 650 is underrated and I know for a fact it’s a bad ass machine. Damn good video 🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
I got a 2016 SE Grizz ... thing is built like a tank. Like you said not the fastest quad out there but with a few mods you can squeak a little more performance out of it. Perfect for trail riding... BTW nice vid bud.
I had a 16 Grizz too, that was me in the mud hole with it.. I loved that thing and I definitely think the Grizzly is awesome! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Was Yamaha Rider all my life, couldn't beat them. Last year bought a CF Moto 800 and I couldn't believe how good of a machine it was for the Price. I clipped a tree doing 74 with it early in this spring. And then after insurance was done I got another one and still to this day I've never had a better ATV than my CF Moto 800 XC. Just bought my wife
Wife a uforce 1000. She loves it. I have 30-in cryptids on both machines. And a clutch kit in both. Shocking how responsive both of them are I can stand up my $800 anywheres great great machines. A friend of mine has a Can-Am 800. Can't imagine spending that much for basically the same machine and mine doesn't break down. die hard CF Moto fan now.
Love the video. I’m just asking if you could also do a another video with ATV’s in the same class. Like 500’s / 700’s / 800’s and 1000’s that would be great 👍 😎
I'm looking to getting new atv i had a 250 trail boss in 90's looking to try another brand like Honda for reliability,any suggestions. Love to trail ride
That's definitely a good mud unit but they aren't great trail machines... Personally, I think the canam xmr's are better for mudding because of better intake placement, less rear suspension drag, and more aggressive clutching.. The highlighters are good too tho.. Either machine would be fun..
Well, you pretty much have 3 options most places.. Outlander, Sportsman, or cfmoto.. To keep it short, my choice would be the Outlander.. I have a Sportsman 1000 and I just can't see the Sportsman making a great touring model and you don't see many.. Much more common in the Outlander and I think the suspension will handle the second rider better.. Im not sold on cfmoto quality Yet personally.. But they are much less expensive
We own a Polaris Honda and just sold a 350 Yamaha it was old so we are buying a 450 Yamaha and we have a kids raptor 700. Also this has to be one of the most underrated channel ever
I’ve had the Yamaha Grizzly 660 for 18 years now. Never burned a belt. 2500 miles mud water rock sand and anything else. It goes great. But what got me here was “sure it may not reach 80 mph but that doesn’t matter on the trails” I don’t know how the 700 doesn’t reach 80 because my 660 maxes out at 65 😂 no hate tho big fan. I hate that I don’t see a lot of Grizzlys on the trail anymore.
@@DirtObseXXion they are very fast especially for trail riding. It sucks that everyone is either on a can am or a Polaris. Not enough people are on Yamahas anymore.
These are all great but for me Polaris are more comfortable over long have a Honda now and can’t argue with the reliability but a lot of our rides are 100 miles sometimes more and the Polaris is so comfortable
You got that right, I have a Sportsman 1000 and I've done 300 miles in 3 days.. Not many other machines id want to do that on! Thanks for checking out the vid!
The 700 or the 450? The 700 is a just a detuned smaller version of the grizzly. A great quad that puts out 500cc power despite the 700 sticker.. Same ultra reliable 686cc motor though, so a great choice for reliability!
Great video buddy! Lotta good information as usual! You do a nice job at this stuff! Now was it chubby bearded with a narrow mid section?? Hmm?.. Something had a narrow mid section.. All hack gotta watch the video again.. hahahahaha!!
Most 4x4s are going to be decent on rocky terrain but honestly if the trails are truly bad then the Sportsman or Scrambler S models have a huge advatage especially for keeping up with SXSs. Polaris's quality is always suspect and they're super expensive. Another (possibly) good alternative is that new Alterra Black Hills edition which is the only "purpose built" machine for crawling with 28" tires and gear reduction.. It really depends on how bad the terrain is though, because like I said, any 4x4 can crawl pretty well.
like the Brute but they desperately need an update.. Better brakes, diff lock engagement, suspension, powersteering, and higher quality packages would go a long way for Kawi without updating the engine or chasis... Just my opinion tho..
I wish my local trails were suited to a raptor. I've always wanted a Raptor, and I know I'd love riding one, but we have huge boulders everywhere, and where it's not rocky we have peat bog. No 2wd's or chain drive solid axles here.
Good video. I do have a question on Honda's transmission options. Which would you choose? It sounded like you were not that impressed with their dct option, does that also include that es shifting buttons? Honda has a ridiculous assortment of trim options for their bikes for some reason.
I just can't get used to push button shifting and I don't feel like their auto mode shifts exactly when you'd want it too.. I'd go foot shift personally.. I really like that they have a manual footshift..
I guess it depends on the kind of riding you do, as for myself I ride all good Trails with my 2022 Rubicon Deluxe. I'm not interested in flying through the air or ripping a trail to pieces. I just wanna pass through and enjoy the view, I'm good with traveling a bit slower and taking care of my machine. I just love poking along enjoying the trails, my gun in the ratchets and a pocket full of bullets! Hard to beat that in my opinion. 😆
That’s the way I should have done it haha, I shouldn’t have ordered them. What a coincidence, uploading two “ranked” ATV vids in one day haha! You made a good list, I don’t have any disagreements with it!
Dirt ObseXXion shoot, I need to start taking my time with them. I had the idea for a couple days and got everything wrote up in about a day and had it filmed in an hour. I like the way you did yours better though, I’ll write that down!
what’s your opinion on the polaris 570 efi x2 with the dump bed? i have one and i personally love that it does everything i want it’s sporty enough for where i ride and obviously a great utility vehicle with the dump bed and good for towing. the second fold up seat is a must have if u ever ride with anyone else on the back or your quad. plus because of the purposely built second seat it has a longer wheel base then any other quads on the market which makes it a monster for hip climbs and going down hills (with polaris’s active decent mode) wouldn’t recommend for mudding or racing of course but over all is a great quad for trails and just having fun with the boys
Awesome brother! I don't ride 2 ups very often but if you need one and like it, that's all that matters!!! It sometimes sucks to limit yourself on these list videos because you can't cover everything but anyone who has a wheeler with features they like made the right choice! Thanks for checking out the vid!
my yfz450r is quit the trail monster! 51in rear wheel width makes this bike so damn stable while ripping through turns. plenty of power at any rpm makes this quad very fun.
I had to stop you right there about what you said the is better than a computer assistant AWD or 4 WD and that the fact is there has never been a computer assistant setup on a ATV. And if you are some referring to Polaris AWD it uses a set up of one-way rollers and a front differential with different gear ratio and the newest models works perfectly and I prefer it to the over anything else even the Grizzy and I have own both.
if you go with the Grizzly 700 and your not a fan of Big mud, You take the SE/XTR on 14in rims/27inch Zillas or the regular EPS with 12in rims and 26inch Tires ? I really like the look of the SE/XTR but not sure of the Square tires and the need for 14in rims ... Do the Eps is more peppy and more plush ??
If I didn't want the zillas I'd go with the regular EPS. I believe the clutching might be a little different on the SE to compensate for the heavier tires
The 570s are pretty good. My beef is primarily with their larger displacement 4x4s.. But if it were me, and I were looking in that price/displacement range, I'd be looking at a Grizzly or a KingQuad
great vid. Luv the bigboy (like myself lol) rompin on the outlander 650. I guess I don't have to hop right on to a 1000. Maybe the 800 max will be the sweet spot.
You can not go very fast in the woods or on a trail anyways, these are not dirt bikes, and my 1984 3 wheeler Big Red will beat any big 4 wheeler in tight woods, as the 4 wheeler has to back up, Think more about handling, midrange power, and 4wd traction, and you will not wend out 1000 on a trail or in tight woods. The Honda Rubicon and Grizzly 700 also has a locker on 4wd the 1000 Polaris does not, only AWD which might be good on some parts of the trail, but not in rough conditions such as steep mountains and lose sand hill climbs. The Honda is beltless and might be the most reliable many like the Grizzly.
My Polaris 570 Sportsman SP has plenty of power on the trails and for pretty much anything I need. I don’t even know why you would spend 12 to 14 grand on a 1000. This should have made your list. Very very popular quad.
We really like both machines.. The Outlander, from probably the 650 up will have more power than the Grizzly.. The Grizzly has better ergonomics, powersteering, 4x4 system, and more agility because the single cylinder motor is slimmer than the Rotax v-twins.. Overall, if you want to cruise in the mid range on trails between 15-40mph, the Grizzly is the most refined machine on the market.. Power hungry folks should lean towards the bigger displacement Can Ams.. The Grizzly would compare best powerwise to an Outlander 570.. Both are reliable, Yamaha has a 10yr belt warranty which is incredible
If you’re gonna Plow with it ...get a brute force I had both and the brute force does everything the grizzly does but leaves it in the dust when it comes to plowing
I like the Brute but they desperately need an update.. Better brakes, diff lock engagement, suspension, powersteering, and higher quality packages would go a long way for Kawi without updating the engine or chasis... Just my opinion tho..
I know you're a Tracker Dealer, so im guessing you work at the Chain... Honestly, Arctic Cat went bankrupt because they failed to keep up with the rest of the market.. Textron hasn't made any improvements, they've cheapened the lineup and diminished the quality if anything.. That said, those are good machines for people who are more concerned with point A to point B or using them as tools.. Offroad enthusiasts looking for the best performance out of a machine are going to look elsewhere.. I haven't been on a "Tracker" but I've tested Alterras.. They're inexpensive, so they have that going fir them..
The only reason I left it off is because I did a Japanese 700 class comparison before this and called the Grizzly better than the KingQuad.. The King Quad is great, and I'd definitely consider it, I'm actually considering one personally because my buddy is wanting a Grizzly and I want to do an honest no BS head to head... I like the Grizzly more because of handling and power steering.. It would come down to price and availability for me because they're both really good and I think you'd be happy with either.
Ok! Thank you! I just watched that one now. Quick Thoughts on the smaller displacement kodiak/grizzly/king quad for adults? I enjoy your guyses videos!
@@Violinmatt2 The smaller displacement quads are plenty for most trail riding. I'd stick with Suzuki or Yamaha personally.. Top speed is typically in the mid to upper 30mph but they'll do fine as long as your not wanting to run larger/heavier tires. I don't recommend the Sportsman 450 due to the poor build quality of the new ones. The older 500s were great, the new ones are cheap..
Great video. Thanks. What’s your choice between the Sportsman 850 and outlander 650 without power steering? I’d probably go Grizzly but it’s $2500 to $3000 more than these two. Thanks!
If you're looking at non power steering models the Sportsman will steer a little easier than the Outlander. I like the ergonomics of the Sportsman better than the Outlanders but I would say the Outlanders hold up better after 1000 miles. We have 2 Sportsman 1000s and both needed bushings, bearings, and had clutch issues at about 1000 miles. Our Outlander 1000r base model has held up better but the shocks are completely shot after about the same amount of time.. Id probably go Sportsman between those two but the decision gets harder if you're comparing 850 to 850 👍
@@DirtObseXXion Thanks. I'm on slower trails most of the time. Maybe the Grizzly is worth the extra for long term reliability. I thought Polaris resolved their clutch issues?
I love the Grizzly, It's been proven to be reliable.. But if you aren't pushing them hard, they'll all last pretty well. Im not sure if Polaris fixed the clutch some guys haven't had an issue..
The Kodiak has the same engine but it is detuned, clutching is different, the suspension is softer, and the ergonomics are a little tighter.. They have the Grizzly set up a little more aggressively for sportier riding.. Kodiak is still a great machine, it's just marketed towards work/hunters/ smaller framed folks..
@@DirtObseXXion Sweet. Born, raised, and currently work in Louisville. Although I currently live in S. Indiana since Louisville has become the armpit of the state! I drive down to Blue Holler a few times a year. Also use to ride Falls of the Rough before it closed. Subscribed to the channel. 👍
@@Mantooth2851 Cool thanks brother! Yeah we used to hit the falls a lot before it closed. BH is pretty close to us, Interlake isn't bad either, im sure you've been there.. What do you ride?
@@DirtObseXXion Interlake is straight down I64 from me. I can be there in about an hour. It is where I ride most, not counting my property. Looking to go ride at Hatfield the second week of October if I can get off from work. I currently own a '18 TRX90 for my kids, a '13 Rancher, and a '17 Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe. Been itching to buy something sport-oriented. Tired of waiting on Honda for a new sport quad so I'll probably break down and get a Raptor. Or maybe just get a sport SxS. Decisions, decisions.
@@Mantooth2851 We go to HM a few times a year, Love it out there! I'm super happy with the Raptor, I've got a 18 Sportsman xp1000 too but the sport machines are more fun..
I could see why only a few were medium atvs and most were extra large. The smaller engine can't handle the obesity 🤣. Lol, jokes aside, great video
😐
Dirt Obesity
@@DirtObseXXion Lol
Remember the old 110 cc 3 wheeler they pulled my 250 pound ass around
@@DirtObseXXion bruh😂
I have to admit, it felt good to see my Grizzly at the top of this list. I was about to get the Sportsman 1000 but it came down the dealer experience. I’m totally happy with my ATV choice. 👍 Theses are all great machines, as are so many more. Well done, man. Fun to watch.
Heck yeah! Dealer counts a lot!
Since 1984 we have matched Honda vs Yamaha and both are reliable, we loved to take a Rubicon up against Yamaha.
Personally my favorite is an Can-am outlander, I’ve only ever ridden an 570 but it feels plenty fast and is great on a trail.
Yeah the Outlander is pretty sweet.. We have the 1000r and I rode the the 1000 XT-P in the ATVonDemand shootout.. Very cool machines 👍
Great list,I had a 700 grizz for 10 years,now I have 2 650 Outlander Max's,they are great overall machines
Excellent taste!
Well those are some solid choices my friend! Excellent video!
Thanks Q!
No King Quad?
Where’s The king quad
Because the king quad is shit
In a dump
It's not one of their favorites so it didn't make their favorite list.
It’s is just as good as the grizzly
Sitting in the dealership cause no one wants one
I have an older G1 outlander 650 and it rides super nice. It may not be the big 92hp but the 55hp it puts out is all you need on the trail
Our ranch pole barn had a concrete berm across the doorway to keep water out. One of the first lessons i ever learned about ATVs was zipping into the barn and crushing my toes between that berm and the steel footpeg on our Yamaha moto4. I remember that lesson every time i see a machine without the full footwells.
Grizzly still Number 1 !!
my brute force 750 does every thing a grizzly does , but faster. same weight better sound and more low end torque gives it more of a fun factor.
@Michael Patrick I'm used to go mine looks. But it looks better now that I put 27x10 zillas on all four corners. It was a tough decision for me because the grizz did look better on the showroom floor but the v twin won out.
@Michael Patrick i copied off the grizzly that came out a little after i bought mine because it looked so good. i have no regrets.
@@edwardcampbell3420 brute force always gets over looked
@@edwardcampbell3420 grizzly has more ground clearance arched a arms better lights better tires better power steering better 4wd system better warranty more storage space lighter and better on gas and more suspension travel...sooooo lol
King quad 750 has great build quality and long term reliability ...its fast and smooth for every need you have. But to each his own..I've owed a few bikes on this list...all were pretty good.
No doubt, the KQ is great!
@@DirtObseXXion I forgot to add you do great reviews...my butt isn't hurt. Keep up the good work
@@brianspader1162 Thanks man! I didn't think you were butthurt, I like hearing from dudes who like their machines and why they like them.. I try to use that feedback in my vids whenever possible..
@@brianspader1162 I think you like your butt hurt. Soy boy
I have a 2003 suzuki 500 and it’s been good but i’m looking forward to upgrading
I've got the XTR now, it's freaking awesome. Rode the 850 , immensely powerful but completely unusable power in the woods. The Grizz has loads of torque too and its build quality really is second to none. Having Duel brakes is a pretty big advantage too since most single action breaks are rear biased and can get you some serious trouble if you aren't careful
Completely agree with everything you said!
Liking it in the woods? climbs steep hills? I need an atv for woods, steep trail riding etc.
@@place95 no problems at all...people get hung up on HP but it's TORQUE that rules and the grizz has plenty. You'll have no issues
@@place95 I had a Grizzly maybe ten years ago and I could get that thing literally anywhere. Never broke unless I flipped it or something
Grizzly XTR gets my vote, awesome bike! ( Raptor ROCKS too ! )
Preach!
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Finally a list made by someone who actually rides and has some enthusiasm making the video kinda made the can am renegade isn’t on the list though
Well, im gonna make a new list video with a Renegade on it just for you and your awesome comment! Thanks for checking it out!
@@DirtObseXXion your welcome
Love this review! Really appreciate all the insight and info you provide!
I think the kodiak 700 is underrated.
Agreed 👍
VERY underrated. Yamaha makes GREAT machines, but doesn’t seem to get much love in the ATV community. People will soon come to realize one day. Mark my words!
I got kodiak it really good
Never mind me, I’ll just be back here putting along on my rubicon foot shift.
Lol!
I’m behind you with my Yamaha blaster that breaks down at least once a ride
I’ll be bringing up the rear with my Honda ATC. Suspension is for pussies
il be right beside ya in my rancher
The TRUE list of best trail riding ATVs in 2020 is literally anything that puts a smile on your face!
Can't argue with that!
Кawasaki brute force 750 👍
I’ve owned several EPS Brutes and an Outlander 850. Love them for what they are. Also owned arctic cat (don’t want to discuss that) and had terrible experiences with Polaris. Polaris may have gotten better since the last ones I’ve owned but couldn’t go back after multiple issues across several quads. I now have a 2019 Grizzly 700 SE with clutch mods, tuner and exhaust and is phenomenal. As far a trail machine it’s incredible. It’s the Swiss Army knife of atvs! At the end of the day, you need a Gruzzly for general trail riding and ANY twin cylinder from Can-Am/Polaris/Kawasaki for just all out grins. Confucius say - Man need Grizzly for trails, Man need twin cylinder for thrills. Buy both, it’s the secret to true happiness.
Perfect comment! Agree with all.. Although for me the key to true happiness is the Raptor 700
Yep I hear you loud and clear! Currently have a 2004 Arctic Cat 400 4x4 (wish I didn’t) a 2018 Sportsman 570sp (its great looking but weakly built imo) that Im about to sell and just picked up a brand BF750 that is a monster! Debated between this and the Grizzly 700, but went with this. Yamaha offers more trim pieces with the XTR model, but those are impossible to find.
Artic Cat and Polaris machines are considered junk here in my area, don't make the mistake of buying either of these brands because of some guys bragging video!! You might be sorry if you do!
I was 6'1, 300+ lbs on a Honda Recon going up the backway to CrownKing, AZ back in highschool. I never once needed more power. Gear selection, for me, is absolutely essential when trail-riding and rock-crawling. Eitherwise you only get a fraction of the power in each gear.
Right on
Yessir
Raptor can ziptie a box to it. My 400 ex is good for trails. Brute as well mine was 7k back then
Love my raptor!! Nice video guys👍🏼
You love it? Can't tell by the abuse you put it through.. I guess love is complicated lol!!!
I wash it after every ride 🤷🏻♂️
Has anyone rode the current Grizz and King Quad models back to back? I find the KQ 750 very hard to beat.
I've ridden both but not back to back.. I prefer the Grizz myself because it feels more agile, I like the EPS, and the Ergos are just more familiar to me.. That doesn't mean it's the right for everyone.. If you like the KingQuad better, that's awesome! I do think the KQ has a bit more power and I love the footwells on it.. KQ is super solid..
This bearded chubby fellow, agree's with this list. But thinks D.O might be missing out on one of the best trail cruising machines. I personally have a soft spot in my heart for the KQ 500, I personally have found KQ's in general to be very smooth riding/engaging running machines. It may not make the hair stand up on your neck, but it will treat you right on a long day's trail ride. Just my 2 cents. Love the video's as always.
No argument there! Thanks Duke!
My 04 Rancher 350 4x4 is a solid running bike with 3800 miles and no issues
Of course dude! It's a Honda!
I would like to see you review a Polaris scrambler. Not the S, but a 50 inch trail. Thanks for another awesome video!
We're working on the S for ATVonDemand tomorrow... I'd love to test a standard width scrammy tho..
Honestly people say this a lot but, I sincerely mean this is an amazing video! It shares to a more broad range, realistic crowd. Well done! I have watch many of you’re videos and enjoy them all. This is an under rated with not near enough followers as it should have. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words brother! Truly appreciate it 🤙
thank you for your insite and in woods riding the only one left out as far as I am concerned can am 850 great video great content
Yeah the 850 is awesome.. i went with the 650 because it's an underrated machine especially for the price.. Thanks for checking out the vid!
Definitely solid choices. I definitely think the Polaris, Sportsman 570 Should get a fair shake. The 570 has become a very reliable engine and the actual ride is pretty legendary. They're 2021 model Is a pretty incredible machine.
True! I did this vid before the 21 came out, but yeah I like the new styling
You are in the middle of the woods and have 1 gallon of gas left. Now which one is your pick? When I ride with my buddies on the trails we are typically 30mph or less so speed isn't a big factor. However they are looking pretty nervous after a few hours running the 700cc + bikes while my rancher 420 and foreman 500 still have plenty in the tank. They treated me good enough to justify the rubicon 520 I just bought.
In that scenario I'm going ranchee 420 all day! It's a great machine any time
Love my Rubicon 520 Deluxe!
Here with an Ozark and I love riding the green machine. Only 2x4 but handles everything thrown at here
I have a 2019 Grizzly (Special Edition/Blue)...it's a BEAST!!
I’m still loving my 18 850sp
I'm excited to get my Sportsman back!
Just got a 2012 850 outlander road it a couple of times but having trouble with the fan not turning on and it getting hot. any ideas I got another fan plugged it in and the same thing the fan will not turn on??
@@jasonsab4934 It's gotta be either a relay or a your temperature guage not working..
Thank you I appreciate you getting back to me I already checked the relay so I will check the temperature gauge as it goes into limp mode with high temps...
*Belt slip* lol
Grizzly 700👍🏻👍🏻 I was surprised to not see the kingquad 750, it’s comparable to the grizzly 700. And interestingly enough, the two grizzly 700 in our moose hunt group, didn’t want to pull the moose out,..no worries, kingquad took care of it🍻🤷🏼♂️🤙🏻
The kingquad is a good machine for sure, but this video was about trail riding specifically.. The Grizzly handles quite a bit better and is less clunky than the KQ.. All personal preference though, both great machines.. 👍
I’ve rode both the king seemed way smoother in every way the engine don’t vibrate near as much way easier to switch gears ,The Yamaha does do better at high speeds though, but this new King is hard to beat Suzuki has stepped there game up big time
Awesome video and list! Right on!
Thanks!
Great list! My Raptor 700R and Kodiak 700 EPS have both been incredible. You will run out of suspension performance & rider ability on a Grizzly long before power for fast trail riding. Agree that the Can Am 650 is criminally underrated. It is the hidden gem in their lineup. The Rubicons look badass, 518cc be damned, they still look great. The higher trim Rubicon pricing is a bit suspect though, for what you’re getting...
Honda is an OG so they get to price accordingly i guess... Love collection of yammers!
Great vid Chad...will be heading down to WV this fall for some XP 1000 fun.
Awesome, that'll be fun! We may try to go back in the fall too..
Been a great weekend for atv lists... Lol.. Great video Chad.. 👍👍👍
You got that right! I laughed when I saw Lando's.. At least we picked different topics! LOL!
I need links!
@@Lazyyote th-cam.com/video/Ra5Lq3QCxpk/w-d-xo.html
Where was the raptor portion filmed at? Looks like an awesome set of trails!
Devil Anse Trails, part of Hatfield McCoy in Delbarton WV.
Great video brothers and I’d say y’all nailed it and I have to agree that 650 is underrated and I know for a fact it’s a bad ass machine. Damn good video 🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks AJ! Hope all is well brother!
Yes, The Yamaha Grizzly is an amazing machine.
I miss mine... sometimes
Dirt ObseXXion kinda like an old flame, the memories are fond, but a run in on real life...meh
Grizzly enough to have fun, not enough power to break things.
Best closeout ever! Who are these chubby bearded guys, who are so wise in the ways of science?! They put together great lists.
I... Am an Enchanter..
I got a 2016 SE Grizz ... thing is built like a tank. Like you said not the fastest quad out there but with a few mods you can squeak a little more performance out of it. Perfect for trail riding... BTW nice vid bud.
I had a 16 Grizz too, that was me in the mud hole with it.. I loved that thing and I definitely think the Grizzly is awesome! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Im all about 4x4's with their comfort and power. If I stuck with sport atvs Id still ride the 700xx. What an amazing machine!
Was Yamaha Rider all my life, couldn't beat them. Last year bought a CF Moto 800 and I couldn't believe how good of a machine it was for the Price. I clipped a tree doing 74 with it early in this spring. And then after insurance was done I got another one and still to this day I've never had a better ATV than my CF Moto 800 XC. Just bought my wife
Wife a uforce 1000. She loves it. I have 30-in cryptids on both machines. And a clutch kit in both. Shocking how responsive both of them are I can stand up my $800 anywheres great great machines. A friend of mine has a Can-Am 800. Can't imagine spending that much for basically the same machine and mine doesn't break down. die hard CF Moto fan now.
Thanks for the input!!! We test ride fir ATVonDemand and we're hoping to get our hands on a cfmoto atv at some point.. Been hearing good things..
gtfo sissy
Love the video. I’m just asking if you could also do a another video with ATV’s in the same class. Like 500’s / 700’s / 800’s and 1000’s that would be great 👍 😎
That's a good idea. I'll try to do it.
I have a 2019 Kodiak 700 special edition and love it... Does everything the grizzly can do just in a smaller package and less money
Awesome!
I'm looking to getting new atv i had a 250 trail boss in 90's looking to try another brand like Honda for reliability,any suggestions. Love to trail ride
I'm a fan of the Yamaha's for trail riding!
I’m looking at getting a 19 Polaris highlighter 850 sportsman or a outlander xmr 650 what do you think I wanna mud a little
That's definitely a good mud unit but they aren't great trail machines... Personally, I think the canam xmr's are better for mudding because of better intake placement, less rear suspension drag, and more aggressive clutching.. The highlighters are good too tho.. Either machine would be fun..
Thanks
Even if xmr is 650 would it feel close to the highlifters 850 power wise
Being a big KY boy like y’all I love this channel
Lol! Thanks brother!
Great video guys! But, I need help deciding on a 2up.....can you guys help?
Well, you pretty much have 3 options most places.. Outlander, Sportsman, or cfmoto.. To keep it short, my choice would be the Outlander.. I have a Sportsman 1000 and I just can't see the Sportsman making a great touring model and you don't see many.. Much more common in the Outlander and I think the suspension will handle the second rider better.. Im not sold on cfmoto quality
Yet personally.. But they are much less expensive
Great favorites looks like you all had a great time . Big like 34 guys keep up the great footage and have a fun week. 👍😎
Thanks Chas! Appreciate all the support brother!
Dirt ObseXXion interestingly enough I had a can am 570 and my brother had a 650 and my 570 was actually faster.
Id like to know more about how you maintain your atv. Oil etc.
Another awesome list, very informative.
Thanks Scott!! Good to see you brother!
Outlander 650 is a sleeper, good pick! 🙂
Definitely! Thanks Marauder!
Yeah I like it cause people see 650 they are like meh then we race and they are mind fucked ;p I raced a cfmoto sxs 1000 and we were equal....
We own a Polaris Honda and just sold a 350 Yamaha it was old so we are buying a 450 Yamaha and we have a kids raptor 700. Also this has to be one of the most underrated channel ever
Very cool! Thanks for the kind words and for checking out the channel!
@@DirtObseXXion np it's just you are good at this
well I gotta say the bearded chubby guy comments made me laugh and hit that sub button lol
Lol! Thanks!!
I’ve had the Yamaha Grizzly 660 for 18 years now. Never burned a belt. 2500 miles mud water rock sand and anything else. It goes great. But what got me here was “sure it may not reach 80 mph but that doesn’t matter on the trails” I don’t know how the 700 doesn’t reach 80 because my 660 maxes out at 65 😂 no hate tho big fan. I hate that I don’t see a lot of Grizzlys on the trail anymore.
The 700 will hit about 65 but it struggles to get there... Still very fast for trail riding
@@DirtObseXXion they are very fast especially for trail riding. It sucks that everyone is either on a can am or a Polaris. Not enough people are on Yamahas anymore.
1986 honda 200sx
These are all great but for me Polaris are more comfortable over long have a Honda now and can’t argue with the reliability but a lot of our rides are 100 miles sometimes more and the Polaris is so comfortable
You got that right, I have a Sportsman 1000 and I've done 300 miles in 3 days.. Not many other machines id want to do that on! Thanks for checking out the vid!
i love the grizzlys gear shifter
It's an awesome machine!
Wonder what you think of the Kodiak. I'm an oldster, won't be flying down any trail...more like poking?
The 700 or the 450? The 700 is a just a detuned smaller version of the grizzly. A great quad that puts out 500cc power despite the 700 sticker.. Same ultra reliable 686cc motor though, so a great choice for reliability!
I’m look for a sport utility quad do you have any suggestions?But will also go in mud
The Yamaha Grizzly is my personal favorite.. The SE version comes with moderate mud tires
Great video boys 😎😎😎
Someday ill add a 4x4 to my garage 🤔
That 2021 Renegade is looking sweet! 👍
Great video buddy! Lotta good information as usual!
You do a nice job at this stuff! Now was it chubby bearded with a narrow mid section?? Hmm?..
Something had a narrow mid section.. All hack gotta watch the video again.. hahahahaha!!
It was not me... my mid section is not narrow! Lol! Thanks KC!
Dirt ObseXXion Sportsman 1000, narrow mid section.. LOL
Trying to figure out a good atv for trail/rocky terrain to keep up with a side by side, but I’m 5,4. What would be the best option?
Most 4x4s are going to be decent on rocky terrain but honestly if the trails are truly bad then the Sportsman or Scrambler S models have a huge advatage especially for keeping up with SXSs. Polaris's quality is always suspect and they're super expensive. Another (possibly) good alternative is that new Alterra Black Hills edition which is the only "purpose built" machine for crawling with 28" tires and gear reduction.. It really depends on how bad the terrain is though, because like I said, any 4x4 can crawl pretty well.
What about the Kawasaki Bruteforce? Great quad with a 750cc V-Twin! I feel like it should of been on this list.
like the Brute but they desperately need an update.. Better brakes, diff lock engagement, suspension, powersteering, and higher quality packages would go a long way for Kawi without updating the engine or chasis... Just my opinion tho..
2 Yamaha,s on the same list makes one Helluva Statement...Grizzly For the WIN💪💪💪.
I took my Grizzly 700 out yesterday and I wish I had the 450. These trails shown here look like roads and my avg speed was 5 kph
I wish my local trails were suited to a raptor. I've always wanted a Raptor, and I know I'd love riding one, but we have huge boulders everywhere, and where it's not rocky we have peat bog. No 2wd's or chain drive solid axles here.
Raptors are awesome but your terrain has to be a consideration for sure!
Good video. I do have a question on Honda's transmission options. Which would you choose? It sounded like you were not that impressed with their dct option, does that also include that es shifting buttons? Honda has a ridiculous assortment of trim options for their bikes for some reason.
I just can't get used to push button shifting and I don't feel like their auto mode shifts exactly when you'd want it too.. I'd go foot shift personally.. I really like that they have a manual footshift..
I guess it depends on the kind of riding you do, as for myself I ride all good Trails with my 2022 Rubicon Deluxe. I'm not interested in flying through the air or ripping a trail to pieces. I just wanna pass through and enjoy the view, I'm good with traveling a bit slower and taking care of my machine. I just love poking along enjoying the trails, my gun in the ratchets and a pocket full of bullets! Hard to beat that in my opinion. 😆
King quad 750 is a monster ....
That’s the way I should have done it haha, I shouldn’t have ordered them. What a coincidence, uploading two “ranked” ATV vids in one day haha! You made a good list, I don’t have any disagreements with it!
Thanks Lando!! I thought that was funny.. I've been working on this one off and on for a few weeks but had those sxs releases to work on..
Lando got hate mail from a certain big bearded dude...Warrior over the Raptor...I’m gonna have a hard time sleeping with that on my mind
Flying Brian DO blame the guy riding the Outlander, I should’ve known better.
Dirt ObseXXion shoot, I need to start taking my time with them. I had the idea for a couple days and got everything wrote up in about a day and had it filmed in an hour. I like the way you did yours better though, I’ll write that down!
@@TeamWaxOffroad You just gotta find a style that works for you.. I thought your video was awesome because it was genuine.
what’s your opinion on the polaris 570 efi x2 with the dump bed? i have one and i personally love that it does everything i want it’s sporty enough for where i ride and obviously a great utility vehicle with the dump bed and good for towing. the second fold up seat is a must have if u ever ride with anyone else on the back or your quad. plus because of the purposely built second seat it has a longer wheel base then any other quads on the market which makes it a monster for hip climbs and going down hills (with polaris’s active decent mode) wouldn’t recommend for mudding or racing of course but over all is a great quad for trails and just having fun with the boys
Awesome brother! I don't ride 2 ups very often but if you need one and like it, that's all that matters!!! It sometimes sucks to limit yourself on these list videos because you can't cover everything but anyone who has a wheeler with features they like made the right choice! Thanks for checking out the vid!
Dirt ObseXXion Thanks man love the vids keep them up 👍
@@FukemMotorsports Thanks dude! We're working on a series for @ATVonDemand right now, just posted the first vid tonight..
Dirt ObseXXion i’ll be sure to check it out!!👌
my yfz450r is quit the trail monster! 51in rear wheel width makes this bike so damn stable while ripping through turns. plenty of power at any rpm makes this quad very fun.
Heck yeah brother, we love our sport quads!
I had to stop you right there about what you said the is better than a computer assistant AWD or 4 WD and that the fact is there has never been a computer assistant setup on a ATV. And if you are some referring to Polaris AWD it uses a set up of one-way rollers and a front differential with different gear ratio and the newest models works perfectly and I prefer it to the over anything else even the Grizzy and I have own both.
if you go with the Grizzly 700 and your not a fan of Big mud, You take the SE/XTR on 14in rims/27inch Zillas or the regular EPS with 12in rims and 26inch Tires ? I really like the look of the SE/XTR but not sure of the Square tires and the need for 14in rims ... Do the Eps is more peppy and more plush ??
If I didn't want the zillas I'd go with the regular EPS. I believe the clutching might be a little different on the SE to compensate for the heavier tires
@@DirtObseXXion Do the Eps is more peppy (lighter tires) and more plush (smaller rims) ??
It would likely feel more peppy with lighter tires and clutching that wasn't biased to the low end yes.. It is a very plush ride
Love it ! Does older chubby gut with a goatee love his older Raptor (2011) ? Hell yeah & I finally made a good Top List for a change lol
Haha! You know it Mad Mike!
What do you all think of the 21 sportsman 570?
The 570s are pretty good. My beef is primarily with their larger displacement 4x4s.. But if it were me, and I were looking in that price/displacement range, I'd be looking at a Grizzly or a KingQuad
great vid. Luv the bigboy (like myself lol) rompin on the outlander 650. I guess I don't have to hop right on to a 1000. Maybe the 800 max will be the sweet spot.
Thanks! The 650/850s are a good value sweetspot in the market in my opinion
You can not go very fast in the woods or on a trail anyways, these are not dirt bikes, and my 1984 3 wheeler Big Red will beat any big 4 wheeler in tight woods, as the 4 wheeler has to back up, Think more about handling, midrange power, and 4wd traction, and you will not wend out 1000 on a trail or in tight woods. The Honda Rubicon and Grizzly 700 also has a locker on 4wd the 1000 Polaris does not, only AWD which might be good on some parts of the trail, but not in rough conditions such as steep mountains and lose sand hill climbs. The Honda is beltless and might be the most reliable many like the Grizzly.
Do you think the Honda recon 450 would be good on simple trails?
I think the recon is a 250, but yeah it would do fine.. Probably better than you think..
i have a Polaris 1994 400l 4x4 wasent on your list how come JUST KIDDING great video
Lol! Thanks!
My Polaris 570 Sportsman SP has plenty of power on the trails and for pretty much anything I need. I don’t even know why you would spend 12 to 14 grand on a 1000. This should have made your list. Very very popular quad.
You're right, the 570 is extremely popular.. That could've made the list for sure, but ima big fat guy so I like the bigger Sportsmans...
Would you choose the grizzly over any outlander? What about the outlander reliability? I’m trying to decide between the two. Thanks
We really like both machines.. The Outlander, from probably the 650 up will have more power than the Grizzly.. The Grizzly has better ergonomics, powersteering, 4x4 system, and more agility because the single cylinder motor is slimmer than the Rotax v-twins.. Overall, if you want to cruise in the mid range on trails between 15-40mph, the Grizzly is the most refined machine on the market.. Power hungry folks should lean towards the bigger displacement Can Ams.. The Grizzly would compare best powerwise to an Outlander 570.. Both are reliable, Yamaha has a 10yr belt warranty which is incredible
@@DirtObseXXion thank you for the great information
@@TwinTurboToyota No problem, thanks for checking out the vid!
Im getting a utility for quad for my birthday what do you recommend 2 buy
Grizzly 700 👍Most well rounded ATV
If you’re gonna Plow with it ...get a brute force I had both and the brute force does everything the grizzly does but leaves it in the dust when it comes to plowing
Why no 750 Brute?
I like the Brute but they desperately need an update.. Better brakes, diff lock engagement, suspension, powersteering, and higher quality packages would go a long way for Kawi without updating the engine or chasis... Just my opinion tho..
What do you think of the Tracker 700EPS?
I know you're a Tracker Dealer, so im guessing you work at the Chain... Honestly, Arctic Cat went bankrupt because they failed to keep up with the rest of the market.. Textron hasn't made any improvements, they've cheapened the lineup and diminished the quality if anything.. That said, those are good machines for people who are more concerned with point A to point B or using them as tools.. Offroad enthusiasts looking for the best performance out of a machine are going to look elsewhere.. I haven't been on a "Tracker" but I've tested Alterras.. They're inexpensive, so they have that going fir them..
What about the brute force 750? Do u think it’s a solid machine?
Yeah it definitely is.. I personally pick the Grizzly over the Brute but the Brute is solid
What pushes the king quads out of this list? Thanks (looking for a 2 atvs to do both work and some light play, your videos have been helpful)
The only reason I left it off is because I did a Japanese 700 class comparison before this and called the Grizzly better than the KingQuad.. The King Quad is great, and I'd definitely consider it, I'm actually considering one personally because my buddy is wanting a Grizzly and I want to do an honest no BS head to head... I like the Grizzly more because of handling and power steering.. It would come down to price and availability for me because they're both really good and I think you'd be happy with either.
Ok! Thank you! I just watched that one now.
Quick Thoughts on the smaller displacement kodiak/grizzly/king quad for adults?
I enjoy your guyses videos!
@@Violinmatt2 The smaller displacement quads are plenty for most trail riding. I'd stick with Suzuki or Yamaha personally.. Top speed is typically in the mid to upper 30mph but they'll do fine as long as your not wanting to run larger/heavier tires. I don't recommend the Sportsman 450 due to the poor build quality of the new ones. The older 500s were great, the new ones are cheap..
Thank you again
Great video. Thanks. What’s your choice between the Sportsman 850 and outlander 650 without power steering? I’d probably go Grizzly but it’s $2500 to $3000 more than these two. Thanks!
If you're looking at non power steering models the Sportsman will steer a little easier than the Outlander. I like the ergonomics of the Sportsman better than the Outlanders but I would say the Outlanders hold up better after 1000 miles. We have 2 Sportsman 1000s and both needed bushings, bearings, and had clutch issues at about 1000 miles. Our Outlander 1000r base model has held up better but the shocks are completely shot after about the same amount of time.. Id probably go Sportsman between those two but the decision gets harder if you're comparing 850 to 850 👍
@@DirtObseXXion Thanks. I'm on slower trails most of the time. Maybe the Grizzly is worth the extra for long term reliability. I thought Polaris resolved their clutch issues?
I love the Grizzly, It's been proven to be reliable.. But if you aren't pushing them hard, they'll all last pretty well. Im not sure if Polaris fixed the clutch some guys haven't had an issue..
Yamaha and honda are the only option to me. They last
@@hurricane8634 same here. I think I’ll add can-am though I’d love to have one of em
Very informative, and we have a grizzly! Awesome footage and loving the dialogue! Girls from Oz. 😊😊😊😊😊🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇨
Would you rate the grizzly over the kodiak? They seem to be about the same.
The Kodiak has the same engine but it is detuned, clutching is different, the suspension is softer, and the ergonomics are a little tighter.. They have the Grizzly set up a little more aggressively for sportier riding.. Kodiak is still a great machine, it's just marketed towards work/hunters/ smaller framed folks..
Good vid. Interesting picks.
Thanks, even got a Honda in there!
What do you think about the Kodiak 450 EPS SE?
Can't go wrong with Yamaha, although the 450 is a little small for our taste..
I'm still on a 325 magnum 2x4 haha. Looking to upgrade in the spring/summer thanks for the list.
Awesome! Good luck!
Noticed the Kentucky Proud tag at the beginning of the video. Y'all from the bluegrass state?
You know it! We're in central KY near Etown
@@DirtObseXXion Sweet. Born, raised, and currently work in Louisville. Although I currently live in S. Indiana since Louisville has become the armpit of the state! I drive down to Blue Holler a few times a year. Also use to ride Falls of the Rough before it closed. Subscribed to the channel. 👍
@@Mantooth2851 Cool thanks brother! Yeah we used to hit the falls a lot before it closed. BH is pretty close to us, Interlake isn't bad either, im sure you've been there.. What do you ride?
@@DirtObseXXion Interlake is straight down I64 from me. I can be there in about an hour. It is where I ride most, not counting my property. Looking to go ride at Hatfield the second week of October if I can get off from work.
I currently own a '18 TRX90 for my kids, a '13 Rancher, and a '17 Pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe. Been itching to buy something sport-oriented. Tired of waiting on Honda for a new sport quad so I'll probably break down and get a Raptor. Or maybe just get a sport SxS. Decisions, decisions.
@@Mantooth2851 We go to HM a few times a year, Love it out there! I'm super happy with the Raptor, I've got a 18 Sportsman xp1000 too but the sport machines are more fun..
I have the sportsman 850, everyone I ride with has grizzly’s. They poke fun at my lazy boy on wheels. But I will take the comfort all day long.
Oh yeah! The Sportsman is definitely the most comfy atv ever!
I got a 2019 Kodiak 700 but i just order a 2022 Outlander XT 1000R
Sweet deal dude!