You are literally reviewing a sharpener I have used for 3 years. I have not watched yet, so I'll come back with my opinion. I sharpen for money, not a full blown business, but I have friends in the industry that asked me to save them some money on sharpening, so Ive been doing that for 2 years. Everyone is happy. I personally love it. I will say, the stones it came with are long gone. Edit, at 3:58, all of those screws maneuvers you talked about are what everyone does, so Im glad someone clued you in. I moved the limiter to the top, but mine never came with a thumbscrew for the pivot, all are allen keyed. Edit, those diamond stones are garbage, the adhesive will fail on them. Ive had to hot glue every single one back together over time. And the grits are off. Edit, those diamond stones are supposed to be used on a scrap piece of metal to remove the excess at first. What you saw happen is exactly what is supposed to. I bitched that they are garbage that they fall apart, but they do work well after some teething. Last edit. I have the model on up from that one. Mine was $59. I never expected the stones to be quality so that was expected. I think I spent $60 for my diamond set and $80 for the wet stones which was well worth it. My handle has never failed, though it is different from that one. That middle screw is really important for angled spines.
You seem to know alot about this precision sharpener. That said, I've a question. I'm lookin into a set of diamond stones or high quality whetstones. Lookin at a set of each for roughly $50, with grits 80-3000 about 10 stones a set. Are these good quality or do I need to look higher? I have seen some individual stones priced at about $10-$30 a stone.
The diamond stones I received were cheap. The low grits quickly lost their grit and cut very poorly compared my other diamond stones. They were garbage and that's where they went. If you've made this sharpener work for 3 years more power to you.
@@GreenBeetle Why come off like a tool for no reason? I don't own this thing, I don't have a dog in this fight and don't have an interest in it other than the general curiosity having seen it everywhere on Amazon. The guy said that the included stones were long gone and I didn't see anywhere in his comment him touting their "amazing" quality while rushing to their defense. But if the unit works particularly after replacing the stones with once a decent quality why would he need more power to him to work with it? And why does your tone come off kind of butthurt? It's very weird.. Anyway, thanks for the video, I'm not going to thank you for the butt hurt comment though.
There's been an upgrade of Rurixin Pro to a 009 version and they fixed some of the issues. The clamps are much better and now the rod does not change it's angle because of loosening screws.
Great review. I bought this kit for the price $38 as my Lansky is falling apart. My kit came with an upgrade, instead of a plastic rod bearing mine is metal. I agree with everything you had to say. The stones are bad, sluffing and in no way accurately marked. Thanks for the tip on the TSPROF stones. I am going to get a set.
Hi there! Wow after your dims in 2:37 you just opened my mind. I was measured zero from the table and 20 to the blade, BUT!-after your explanations with degrees I recognised, my base is in angle as well, not horizontal as another videos. So my 14 degrees -20=6 degrees! Simply. I re-done my kitchen knifes and now everything is sharp! Follow my old measurements I done knifes in 34 degrees. 14sharpener+20 my set up. thanks ;) Tom
I got one of these at Christmas. Think this is a pretty fair review. The stones I got with mine where pretty garbage. Got about 8 knives sharpened before the first stone snapped. Rest were very worn and lots of slurry. They did get the knives sharp though and I tried on a small wood carving knife up to larger chef knives and all held in great. I haven't used it a ton as I need new stones but for me it seems good enough (for the price) and could be tweaked to make it a bit more solid. For someone like me that makes a few knives a years as a hobby it does the job just fine and was quicker and easier then a DIY solution. Also easier to get consistent edges over doing it with just stones (again for someone that isn't doing it all the time).
my Ruixin works just fine. way better than the all-plastic WorkSharp. sure, the stones that cane with it were used up quickly, but apart from that i could give a mirror polish edge to many of my knives. i think it is perfectly usable right out of the box and provides decent results. the TSPROF diamond stones are another league of course. get them and have a solid system.
I used to use my grandfathers sharpening stone, he used for a scythe to maintain the lawn with, and you could sharpen a knife beautifully with that. If I had a chance to get that back, I'd prefer that over some cheap set. Still, it's good have a pro opinion on these things. Thanks.
I made the mistake of buying this kit; however, through Amazon. Even purchased extra stones. Yeppers, customer service doesn't exist. Two of my stones that came with kit were broken. Am pretty sure that these stones are held together with a flour and water paste. I managed to sharpen my chef knife and a boning knife. When holding the stones sideways, I could see a slight dip forming. Talk about slurry; unbelievable. Again, no customer service so I did the best thing for the kit. Took it away out back and shot the case several times to put it "down." Put remnants in small trash bag and Adios. Deeply disappointed, but I learned a lesson. Appreciate your video as it shows I am not the only one with a bad experience. Have a great weekend.
I just got mine and was able to sharpen five kitchen knives fairly quickly. Overall, I think the system feels cheap, but it got the job done. I don't think the stones will last but from your video I learned that I could buy better stones, which is a plus. Thanks for the review.
I had no missing parts. The angle adjustment knob would not stay tight even after swapping out the screw. I was constantly checking my angle. This thing just would not hold. I added a slider stop under the angle adjustment rig to see if that would hold it. Anyway I got two ZTs sharpened but what a hassle
I’ve used the same diamond stones with my Ruixin on many knives without the degradation he reports. It looks like he didn’t use water and they clogged with iron dust. No missing parts on mine either. One guy said his angle changed when he flipped the knife. This appears to only happen if the spine of the knife contacts the rounded channel at the bacon the jaws. I think this sharpener was worth the money I paid.
@@GreenBeetle at about 4 min. 20 sec. You used diamond stones and basically said they were worn out after the one use. Bacon jaws are apparently what auto correct thinks I meant by “back of the jaws”.
I have 2 of these firstly the stones are junk and fall out of the holder?the screws in the clamp are set into aluminium and strip out and the first one I found that when I flip it the angle would change
I ordered mine from AliExpress in December and received it in early May (about 2 weeks ago at time of writing.) My unit has a metal bearing and all metal parts except for the handle which, so far after 10 carbon and molybdenum steel knives, is holding up well. I'm happy to learn that higher quality stones will fit because I enjoy this sharpener so much. I have some Chinese style cleavers that I struggle to sharpen because muscle memory wants to default to a lower angle of sharpening and this tool solved the problem, as well as cutting a big chunk of time off the process.
The extremes of how distorted westerners idea of value can become as soon as they’re offered 3rd world slave made products, in place of the ones their community used to try and make, boggles my mind…
Thanks for the great review. I do notice thta when I flip the nife from side to side, the angle changes. It seems like the clamping isnt equal so on one side is higher than the other. Any tips for that?
Great video. Thanks for thenreview. You might want to measure the angle also after you turn your knife over. Mine has 2 different angles :) (meaning the clamp does not hold the knife on the same angle on both sides).
Really useful video, thanks. I've had mine for probably a year now, and I'm using it on my knives only once a month. I find the best system for me is to use 2 chef's honing steel (a chef one and a butcher's fine one), after that I finish with a very fine water stone and a quick strop on an old leather belt. One thing to be careful of is to sharpen your knife the full length of your blade, other than that, it's a very useful addition to my kitchen.
I wish you had slowed down during the sharpening, as I couldn't tell how you were doing it. Short strokes or a single long stroke? Also, how many strokes on each side? I bought one and it doesn't seem to making my knives really sharp.
You might could use those small hose clamps with a split piece of hose in them placed above and below the slide, but that's alot of money for 2 sharpeners missing parts.
Great review. Was so close to buying an instragram version but this has given me real insight into the quality and instant upgrading I'd need to do. Cheers.
I was gifted one of these and have been practicing sharping on some older beat up knives. I see that when you are sharping, you short up and down strokes following the length of the blade. The video the manufacture shows, is pulling one full stroke for the length of the blade. Is shorter strokes better or one long stroke to sharpen?
Many did you sharpen it going forward and back directly against the edge of the knife instead of sliding up and down the entire length of the blade? Wouldn't the way that you sharpened it cause the stones to wear much faster?
I don't use it a ton but I have this same sharpener and I haven't had many problems with it. I would like to get new stones but for my own use I like it.
I have one of these. Seems they upgraded the bushing to metal vs. Plastic. I havent had any set screws coming loose, so thats a plus. But the stones dont hold very well with the spring. The handle doesnt seem to add tightness when pushing it down. The biggest gripe js the stones! First knife came out razor sharp, the second had issues, and took 3x as long. Like it wore the 1k grit to 10k. The arm that holds the stone on is held by not even half inch of shaft which is a concern, but hasnt caused any issues. Overall im happy with it. Consistent way to sharpen without ruining any expensive knives by havjng the wrong angle. I still need to finish my kitchen knife set, but im going to buy a good set of stones and should be good to go.
Thanks for the review. Only one question, does the angle between the knife edge and the stone change when you flip the knife over? In your video do don't check the angle again.
I bought my sharpener 6 months ago. I have been using high quality Japanese whetstones for years. Nothing comes close to their edges I achieve with the whetstones. That said, I have been using the Ruixin on my utility type knives. I will not use this system on my expensive Shun blades. Any stone needs water while sharpening. I use a spray bottle to keep the stones wet. I get a good slurrry and not the mess shown in the video. I would rate it 6 out of ten. I only paid $30 for my kit. My good stones cost $68-80 each, but last a long time. Key to this unit is to keep the stones wet while using. I had a very expensive Tormek sharpener which was the best. Once I learned to use the Japanese stones I sold my Tormek. I was a Toolmaker for 35 years and I understand the concept of the burr edge. You have to understand what metals you are sharpening. Most times I just have to fine tune my good blades. My Shun blades are set at 12 degrees and are incredibly sharp. I finish them ona 10,000 grit stone which polishes the edge. I also use a 10x Loupe magnifier to check for imperfections. I will only sharpen blades for people who I know will use them with care. These knives will cut your fingers to the bone instantly. Good luck.
Try making the stones last longer by only drawing the sharpening stroke toward you. Every time you push it against the edge, the blade shaves the stones for you. Additionally, you also remove the small burr, which actually does the cutting.....
Hi, at 6:10 you say you are missing that part, but in fact that part is the part you removed at 1:03, you remove the screw to then install the pole, that screw you removed and just left on the table for the remainder of the demo is the screw you said you are missing.
I went up to 1500grit, but when I test it by cutting a letter paper, the cut have jagged edges (paper fibres showing, instead of a smooth cut), I wonder does that mean I should go higher grits or sand more with the 1500? Also, I found the angle is not maintained consistent between stones because of their uneven thicknesses (worn out or manufacture error), so sometimes the finer grits are not working on the very edge but where the edge and side join...
I guess it all depends what version you receive. 5 or the 7 stones I got are the same color - be careful of which one is next. like you said the stones have a short life span. On kitchen knives it worked well - BUT - if you going to sharpen a small pocketknife - good luck, it's difficult to position. Also, I used a Lansky and could bring the edge to a mirror shine, but even using a strop I could not get the shine. Enjoyed your information about replacement stones.
Thanks for the review. I am only sharpening home knives for kitchen use so this may be a good option. I looked at the TSPF options but that is priced for pro work. I couldn't afford the bandaids I would need to buy.
On Amazon, in the opinions of this Chinese sharpener , it is written that this buckle does not hold the angle after turning. In addition, they write that these stones are of poor quality and often come broken.
got mine from aliexpress in about 10days with nothing missing or broken. got system plus 15 diff stones(160 to 10000 - 4 diamond rest are whetstones) as well as leather strop and compound for 51us(after coupons) total. love the system and youtube has tons of tutorials for this and similar systems. easy to use(was a complete noob) and already on my 5th knife i got it down to 35 on sharpness test(with thread cut on scale) - can easily shave with it but really have to do a proper sharpening technique.
What’s the difference between this and the wasabi? I got the wasabi and, aside from the handle, none of it is plastic and it came with a few extra screws. The most difficult time I had was getting the angles right and then the slurry.. yikes. I know that’s wear and tear on the stone. I managed to get decent edges on a few knifes, good enough to cut whatever, I tried the paper thing and it catches and just tears the paper. The sharpened edge has little nubs? Coming off. I’m guessing a strop will take care of that? I have up to 1500, assume I need 2-3000 to get that razor shard edge. Overall I’m happy with it, it’s easy, kinda fun.. oh.. the lack of decent instructions is a let down. That’s why I’m here looking for advice/reviews etc.. I did contact them and they are quick to respond with websites etc to solve any issues I have.
You’re moving the sharpening stone back and forth on the blade? You’re dulling it with every backstroke as you’re using the blade to shave off the whetstone. You’re supposed to do smooth long strokes from the tip of the knife down to the handle, pulling the stone out as you go.
I had one. I have used CNC machinig stuff as well. The whetstones are a joke, but easyly updateable whit diamond stones. And the structure couldn´t be better with less,😂 I´ve learned the same I learnt in Moto GP (PC): "everybody can accelerate in the straight line, many can manage the turn. And just a few control the angle all along the turn.
I didnt know you were allowed to run the stone away AND into the edge. Like back and forth. Ive always through it was away from the stone and a single swipe does the full length of the blade.
@@GreenBeetle I never said the product was good or criticised you, I was asking about the technique. We can obviously see the issues with it as it's explained quite well. I also did not know that you're a f$&kwit, but now I do. Learnt another thing from TH-cam. Awesome.. Thanks. I've Subscribed for future tips and comments
I already gave them both to patreon supporters before I shut down patreon. I don't expect much longevity here but as long as the base holds up the rest can probably be maintained at minimum cost?
Wow!!! Have the owners or management from Ruivin contacted you regarding there product review? I will keep you posted when my sharpener arrives . As not to forget, I like how you review the product. Hopefully you will be repaid your hard earned money… Bob
I use my Tormek super grind whetstone. All my chisels and axes 🪓 like razors When I was apprentice my saws were Disston and used to sharpen by hand in saw stocks, set the teeth, used to find it relaxing
My experience with this sharpener, is that the fixture clamp holds the knife at 2 different angles. Mine has a 2 degree difference from one side to the other
there is also this plastic worksharp at a similar price, but you can not buy anything separately there and with the entire upgrade it is not so cheap anymore
Interesting review...thank you for finally convincing me that sharpeners like this aren't worth the misery...why spend $100+ to make a $40 sharpener acceptable? I gave in and ordered the TSPROF Kadet (I hope the affiliate link worked!) and I'm excited to have a sharpener that I'm sure will last me the rest of my life.
@@jwiz1911 I disagree, I’m getting beautiful results with 1 minor mod that took 5 mins and replacing the supplied stones with a set of 10 diamond ones with a finest grit of 3,000 and it’s working perfectly for a total outlay of £70/$90. Apart from the handle mine is all metal (unlike the mainly plastic TS prof). My mod was to grind a flat onto the upright rod so the pivot can be locked in place more easily.
its clunky, sticks, catches and barely turns. if its teflon they wasted their money but yeah if it breaks its prob cheap to replace but in the meantime i don't think it functions as well as intended.
I picked one of these up for $11 on Amazon a while ago. It’s perfectly effective from my experience, but is a bit of a hassle, so I tended not to use it
hey, i was wondering what website you had in the video where you talked about the replacement stones! searches for "tsprof diamond plate set for edge pro" only resulted in stones that were +85 dollars ):
1. DONT soak stones, a spray bottle with water to keep the working surface wet is all that's required. 2. Use slow motion and use the full length of the stone. Your sharpening like your sawing wood. It's for sharpening not cutting a bevel. You pre edge it on a Tormek or Grinder then smooth it out with this
Manufacturer instructions often direct water stones be soaked prior to use - I’ve seen up to 15 minutes. I take the manufacturers at their word. Stones often go down to 150-250 in grit and can be used for cutting or repair in that case. Also if a person is buying a $30 sharpener they likely do not already own a tormek or grinder.
From what i understand... Diamond stone need to be broken in... Sharpen a blank of metal on it or just keep sharpening a bunch of knives or use a cheap whetstone.
Stones are crap. You must lock that holder in place. If it rotates as in vid the angle changes for the stone. I filed a flat grove on the axle. Made it stay in place. Plastic is better than metal against metal. I filed the holder for that plastic ball down some to get rid of that play. Just screw the holder apart and carefully file some off. Go for Venev stones, best ever. Holds a lifetime.
I start most stuff on the 2x72 and get it down to just under apex. Then I use 1 of 3 methods. Worksharp Ken Onion for convex edges or Arkansas stones followed by Shapton glass up to a very high polish or the Kazak Pro / TSProf to 5000 grit the latter being the most common way I sharpen stuff. Of the 3, I enjoy using the Arkansas stones the most but I’m not as proficient with them.
@@GreenBeetle I've had the KME and the Ken Onion rigs. Recently purchased the "Master Kit" from TSPROF, but haven't found time enough to sit down w/ it. Hoping you'll do some TSPROF tutorials? Thanks for the interesting content!
I'm trying to save money and still obtain decent quality stones for this system. The prices of the tsprof 5 piece diamond stones are now $90 instead of $50 in this video. Has anyone ever tried cutting up full size whetstones into 1×6in stones to use for these systems?
I ordered the same system and fortunately it came with all the parts. I personally didn't like the way the handle was, so I took it off and flipped it over so it hangs under the rod. That seemed a lot more stable and comfortable to me. Thanks for sharing and the info about the better stones. I'll definitely be ordering better ones once these wear out (so soon]. 👍⚒️🔥
How did you get on with it and which stones did you purchase? I bought a set of diamond stones for $40 and although I’ve only sharpened 10 knives I’m very happy with the results I’m getting and the speed that I’m achieving. I did the same with the handle coz it feels more comfortable and ergonomic that way.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 I'm actually still using the same songs that came with it. I've basically just used it on a few of the kitchen knives, and they seem to be holding up. At least the higher grit ones anyway.
@@SoggyBottomForgeJoe Yep, the higher-grit stones seem to last longer but my 2 lower-grit stones were getting perilously thin before my diamond stones arrived. So thin in fact that I took my Lansky with me just in case I needed it. I think I must have sharpened 50+ knives at the Foodbank where I volunteer so yours will probably last a while if you're just using it for your domestic needs. When you do need to replace them you'll be surprised how quickly the diamonds cut. I've got a set of 10 stones, 2 of the coarsest ones don't get much use and I use 6 of the remainder up to 3k to get a razor edge. Once the first burr is established with the 200 or 400 grit it only takes 2 passes on each side with subsequent stones to do the rest. I've only sharpened 12-15 knives with the diamond stones since they arrived so can't attest to their longevity yet though.
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 I'm hoping to get my forge cleaned up and get back in there soon. 🤞 then I'll have a few more knives to put under the stone. 👍⚒️🔥
Hey! Very nice review 👍👍🏽. I was wondering if you would like to resell at a lower price or giveaway the ruixin with the missing parts that you arent using, since you have two… I dont have the money to buy a new one right now. Sincery, tom
You are literally reviewing a sharpener I have used for 3 years. I have not watched yet, so I'll come back with my opinion. I sharpen for money, not a full blown business, but I have friends in the industry that asked me to save them some money on sharpening, so Ive been doing that for 2 years. Everyone is happy. I personally love it. I will say, the stones it came with are long gone.
Edit, at 3:58, all of those screws maneuvers you talked about are what everyone does, so Im glad someone clued you in. I moved the limiter to the top, but mine never came with a thumbscrew for the pivot, all are allen keyed.
Edit, those diamond stones are garbage, the adhesive will fail on them. Ive had to hot glue every single one back together over time. And the grits are off.
Edit, those diamond stones are supposed to be used on a scrap piece of metal to remove the excess at first. What you saw happen is exactly what is supposed to. I bitched that they are garbage that they fall apart, but they do work well after some teething.
Last edit. I have the model on up from that one. Mine was $59. I never expected the stones to be quality so that was expected. I think I spent $60 for my diamond set and $80 for the wet stones which was well worth it. My handle has never failed, though it is different from that one. That middle screw is really important for angled spines.
You seem to know alot about this precision sharpener. That said, I've a question.
I'm lookin into a set of diamond stones or high quality whetstones. Lookin at a set of each for roughly $50, with grits 80-3000 about 10 stones a set.
Are these good quality or do I need to look higher? I have seen some individual stones priced at about $10-$30 a stone.
The diamond stones I received were cheap. The low grits quickly lost their grit and cut very poorly compared my other diamond stones. They were garbage and that's where they went. If you've made this sharpener work for 3 years more power to you.
@@GreenBeetle Why come off like a tool for no reason? I don't own this thing, I don't have a dog in this fight and don't have an interest in it other than the general curiosity having seen it everywhere on Amazon.
The guy said that the included stones were long gone and I didn't see anywhere in his comment him touting their "amazing" quality while rushing to their defense.
But if the unit works particularly after replacing the stones with once a decent quality why would he need more power to him to work with it? And why does your tone come off kind of butthurt? It's very weird.. Anyway, thanks for the video, I'm not going to thank you for the butt hurt comment though.
what are good replacement stones?
Don't listen to these guys they sound like a bunch of armchair experts@@GreenBeetle
I have this system and have been is it for the last 3 years with no problems. Mine works great. Nothing moves on me.
There's been an upgrade of Rurixin Pro to a 009 version and they fixed some of the issues. The clamps are much better and now the rod does not change it's angle because of loosening screws.
👌😂
Great review. I bought this kit for the price $38 as my Lansky is falling apart. My kit came with an upgrade, instead of a plastic rod bearing mine is metal. I agree with everything you had to say. The stones are bad, sluffing and in no way accurately marked. Thanks for the tip on the TSPROF stones. I am going to get a set.
Hi there! Wow after your dims in 2:37 you just opened my mind. I was measured zero from the table and 20 to the blade, BUT!-after your explanations with degrees I recognised, my base is in angle as well, not horizontal as another videos. So my 14 degrees -20=6 degrees! Simply. I re-done my kitchen knifes and now everything is sharp! Follow my old measurements I done knifes in 34 degrees. 14sharpener+20 my set up. thanks ;) Tom
As an owner of the same Ruixin Pro sharpening system, I concur with this assessment.
I got one of these at Christmas. Think this is a pretty fair review. The stones I got with mine where pretty garbage. Got about 8 knives sharpened before the first stone snapped. Rest were very worn and lots of slurry. They did get the knives sharp though and I tried on a small wood carving knife up to larger chef knives and all held in great.
I haven't used it a ton as I need new stones but for me it seems good enough (for the price) and could be tweaked to make it a bit more solid.
For someone like me that makes a few knives a years as a hobby it does the job just fine and was quicker and easier then a DIY solution. Also easier to get consistent edges over doing it with just stones (again for someone that isn't doing it all the time).
I have same system and made my on handle and attachment from aluminum, also use edge pro stones and no issues now
my Ruixin works just fine. way better than the all-plastic WorkSharp. sure, the stones that cane with it were used up quickly, but apart from that i could give a mirror polish edge to many of my knives. i think it is perfectly usable right out of the box and provides decent results. the TSPROF diamond stones are another league of course. get them and have a solid system.
I used to use my grandfathers sharpening stone, he used for a scythe to maintain the lawn with, and you could sharpen a knife beautifully with that. If I had a chance to get that back, I'd prefer that over some cheap set. Still, it's good have a pro opinion on these things. Thanks.
I made the mistake of buying this kit; however, through Amazon. Even purchased extra stones. Yeppers, customer service doesn't exist. Two of my stones that came with kit were broken. Am pretty sure that these stones are held together with a flour and water paste. I managed to sharpen my chef knife and a boning knife. When holding the stones sideways, I could see a slight dip forming. Talk about slurry; unbelievable. Again, no customer service so I did the best thing for the kit. Took it away out back and shot the case several times to put it "down." Put remnants in small trash bag and Adios. Deeply disappointed, but I learned a lesson. Appreciate your video as it shows I am not the only one with a bad experience. Have a great weekend.
:) I was surprised not to find a negative review of these on TH-cam yet.
@@GreenBeetle Same with me. Live and learn.
I just got mine and was able to sharpen five kitchen knives fairly quickly. Overall, I think the system feels cheap, but it got the job done. I don't think the stones will last but from your video I learned that I could buy better stones, which is a plus. Thanks for the review.
The one I received from Amazon had a metal ball where the rod went through.
There is update version for RUIXIN PRO RX-008 now, and the RUIXIN PRO RX-009 is also available.
I had no missing parts. The angle adjustment knob would not stay tight even after swapping out the screw. I was constantly checking my angle. This thing just would not hold. I added a slider stop under the angle adjustment rig to see if that would hold it. Anyway I got two ZTs sharpened but what a hassle
I’ve used the same diamond stones with my Ruixin on many knives without the degradation he reports. It looks like he didn’t use water and they clogged with iron dust. No missing parts on mine either. One guy said his angle changed when he flipped the knife. This appears to only happen if the spine of the knife contacts the rounded channel at the bacon the jaws. I think this sharpener was worth the money I paid.
Included stones aren’t diamond. They AO and garbage. I did use water with them. Diamond stones work fine. I don’t know what bacon jaws are.
@@GreenBeetle at about 4 min. 20 sec. You used diamond stones and basically said they were worn out after the one use.
Bacon jaws are apparently what auto correct thinks I meant by “back of the jaws”.
@@GreenBeetle I can't read no more comments, ME DAG THINKS I'M NUTS LAUGHING SO MUCH. " I DON'T KNOW WHAT BACON JAWS ARE " I HAVE TO PEE, LMAO.
Thanks for the review and letting us know what to expect. I think it definitely has it's place for some people
I have 2 of these firstly the stones are junk and fall out of the holder?the screws in the clamp are set into aluminium and strip out and the first one I found that when I flip it the angle would change
My options are the lansky deluxe kit for $115 or this for $65 what would you recommend? not too worried about the price
This one is not worth $10. I haven’t tried a lansky deluxe so I prob can’t comment on it. If price is no obstacle score a TsPROF.
@@GreenBeetle thanks 👍
I ordered mine from AliExpress in December and received it in early May (about 2 weeks ago at time of writing.) My unit has a metal bearing and all metal parts except for the handle which, so far after 10 carbon and molybdenum steel knives, is holding up well. I'm happy to learn that higher quality stones will fit because I enjoy this sharpener so much. I have some Chinese style cleavers that I struggle to sharpen because muscle memory wants to default to a lower angle of sharpening and this tool solved the problem, as well as cutting a big chunk of time off the process.
The extremes of what knife sharpening systems can cost bottles my mind.
It puts your mind in a narrow state with limited room for escape?
Boggles. The word you are looking for is boggles.
@@ruthlessone3k I've heard it both ways.
@@danthemakerman Boggle and bottle are two words that have completely different meanings. I would just blame it on auto correct 😂
The extremes of how distorted westerners idea of value can become as soon as they’re offered 3rd world slave made products, in place of the ones their community used to try and make, boggles my mind…
Is it cheap plastic or delrin? If it's delrin (or equivalent), that's probably the best material for that ball guide.
Nylon
Thanks for the great review.
I do notice thta when I flip the nife from side to side, the angle changes. It seems like the clamping isnt equal so on one side is higher than the other.
Any tips for that?
Thanks for your honest review. Tired of other reviewers just trying to sell me an inferior product
Great video. Thanks for thenreview.
You might want to measure the angle also after you turn your knife over. Mine has 2 different angles :) (meaning the clamp does not hold the knife on the same angle on both sides).
Really useful video, thanks. I've had mine for probably a year now, and I'm using it on my knives only once a month. I find the best system for me is to use 2 chef's honing steel (a chef one and a butcher's fine one), after that I finish with a very fine water stone and a quick strop on an old leather belt.
One thing to be careful of is to sharpen your knife the full length of your blade, other than that, it's a very useful addition to my kitchen.
I have one of these you nailed the review thanks for the info on the other Stones I was trying to figure out what would be a good brand
Gritomatic.com has options.
There isn't a missing bolt. It's there in another part of the base. I bought this and that's how it came. The directions should have shown this.
I wish you had slowed down during the sharpening, as I couldn't tell how you were doing it. Short strokes or a single long stroke? Also, how many strokes on each side? I bought one and it doesn't seem to making my knives really sharp.
thank you for doing this review, I had been looking at these for a while
You might could use those small hose clamps with a split piece of hose in them placed above and below the slide, but that's alot of money for 2 sharpeners missing parts.
thanks for sharing a genuine, honest review !
Great review. Was so close to buying an instragram version but this has given me real insight into the quality and instant upgrading I'd need to do. Cheers.
Glad it was helpful
You need to file a small flat spot where the set screw needs to seat so it’s not trying so hard grabbing on a round surface
Better and easier to file the screw tip to a round shape directly imho.🤨
Just picked it up for $10 at the Goodwill.. 😆 Might have to get those bits you mentioned! Great review, Thanks!
I was gifted one of these and have been practicing sharping on some older beat up knives. I see that when you are sharping, you short up and down strokes following the length of the blade. The video the manufacture shows, is pulling one full stroke for the length of the blade. Is shorter strokes better or one long stroke to sharpen?
I need to do a video on this. There are specific reasons I do it that way.
@@GreenBeetle I’d love to see it! Thanks for the reply and knowledge about better whetstones.
I have this system and agree , I was thinking Teflon ball instead of metal to see if it would smooth out the slide. The plastic ball is garbage
Also you’re supposed to do slow long strokes along the length of the blade with minimal pressure.
Many did you sharpen it going forward and back directly against the edge of the knife instead of sliding up and down the entire length of the blade? Wouldn't the way that you sharpened it cause the stones to wear much faster?
no. they melt not matter what they're garbage
he did, he's using the stones like an idiot...
@@GreenBeetle YES they are, " HE'S USING THE STONES LIKE AN IDIOT " WTF ?
I have the same one and had the same problems. It works, at the end you can sharpen your nife, but accep the quality issues
Thanks used my Lansky system for 8 yrs now wondered how that system compared. Glad I'm using Lansky
Yup!
I don't use it a ton but I have this same sharpener and I haven't had many problems with it. I would like to get new stones but for my own use I like it.
I have one of these. Seems they upgraded the bushing to metal vs. Plastic. I havent had any set screws coming loose, so thats a plus. But the stones dont hold very well with the spring. The handle doesnt seem to add tightness when pushing it down. The biggest gripe js the stones! First knife came out razor sharp, the second had issues, and took 3x as long. Like it wore the 1k grit to 10k. The arm that holds the stone on is held by not even half inch of shaft which is a concern, but hasnt caused any issues. Overall im happy with it. Consistent way to sharpen without ruining any expensive knives by havjng the wrong angle. I still need to finish my kitchen knife set, but im going to buy a good set of stones and should be good to go.
I'm curious what the best stone upgrade is? TSProf offers several abrasive choices. Looks like the stones have jumped in price.
Check gritomatic.com
@@GreenBeetle They have a lot of choices. What would you select if your budget was $100?
Thanks for the review.
Only one question, does the angle between the knife edge and the stone change when you flip the knife over? In your video do don't check the angle again.
Most likely YES, I imagine it varies from sharpener to sharpener, mine is off by 5 degrees.
I bought my sharpener 6 months ago. I have been using high quality Japanese whetstones for years. Nothing comes close to their edges I achieve with the whetstones. That said, I have been using the Ruixin on my utility type knives. I will not use this system on my expensive Shun blades. Any stone needs water while sharpening. I use a spray bottle to keep the stones wet. I get a good slurrry and not the mess shown in the video. I would rate it 6 out of ten. I only paid $30 for my kit. My good stones cost $68-80 each, but last a long time. Key to this unit is to keep the stones wet while using. I had a very expensive Tormek sharpener which was the best. Once I learned to use the Japanese stones I sold my Tormek. I was a Toolmaker for 35 years and I understand the concept of the burr edge. You have to understand what metals you are sharpening. Most times I just have to fine tune my good blades. My Shun blades are set at 12 degrees and are incredibly sharp. I finish them ona 10,000 grit stone which polishes the edge. I also use a 10x Loupe magnifier to check for imperfections. I will only sharpen blades for people who I know will use them with care. These knives will cut your fingers to the bone instantly. Good luck.
I have a shun knife and have been trying to sharpen it with a regular whetstone, with little avail. Do I need a special stone?
Try making the stones last longer by only drawing the sharpening stroke toward you.
Every time you push it against the edge, the blade shaves the stones for you. Additionally, you also remove the small burr, which actually does the cutting.....
Burr does not do the cutting. These stones are straight junk most low grit stones do just fine back and forth cutting.
Excellent honest Profesional review.
Hi, at 6:10 you say you are missing that part, but in fact that part is the part you removed at 1:03, you remove the screw to then install the pole, that screw you removed and just left on the table for the remainder of the demo is the screw you said you are missing.
oh yeah i think you're right!
I went up to 1500grit, but when I test it by cutting a letter paper, the cut have jagged edges (paper fibres showing, instead of a smooth cut), I wonder does that mean I should go higher grits or sand more with the 1500?
Also, I found the angle is not maintained consistent between stones because of their uneven thicknesses (worn out or manufacture error), so sometimes the finer grits are not working on the very edge but where the edge and side join...
I guess it all depends what version you receive. 5 or the 7 stones I got are the same color - be careful of which one is next. like you said the stones have a short life span. On kitchen knives it worked well - BUT - if you going to sharpen a small pocketknife - good luck, it's difficult to position. Also, I used a Lansky and could bring the edge to a mirror shine, but even using a strop I could not get the shine. Enjoyed your information about replacement stones.
Thanks for the review. I am only sharpening home knives for kitchen use so this may be a good option. I looked at the TSPF options but that is priced for pro work. I couldn't afford the bandaids I would need to buy.
are there any better made models (maybe made un USA?) of this type of sharpener?
Would it be possible for anyone who has one of these models to upload the manual? I have the sharpener, but I don't have the manual.
GB we've missed you, your sultry voice is a welcomed return
On Amazon, in the opinions of this Chinese sharpener , it is written that this buckle does not hold the angle after turning. In addition, they write that these stones are of poor quality and often come broken.
You checked this angle, maybe it's a single case, and as for what you just need to take with diamonds, and that's it
Mine can barely hold the stone. If I move the system, the stone moves. I have to hold it with my hand.
Thanks!! I'm going to try this with the stone and bearing upgrades you mentioned.
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got mine from aliexpress in about 10days with nothing missing or broken. got system plus 15 diff stones(160 to 10000 - 4 diamond rest are whetstones) as well as leather strop and compound for 51us(after coupons) total. love the system and youtube has tons of tutorials for this and similar systems. easy to use(was a complete noob) and already on my 5th knife i got it down to 35 on sharpness test(with thread cut on scale) - can easily shave with it but really have to do a proper sharpening technique.
What’s the difference between this and the wasabi? I got the wasabi and, aside from the handle, none of it is plastic and it came with a few extra screws. The most difficult time I had was getting the angles right and then the slurry.. yikes. I know that’s wear and tear on the stone. I managed to get decent edges on a few knifes, good enough to cut whatever, I tried the paper thing and it catches and just tears the paper. The sharpened edge has little nubs? Coming off. I’m guessing a strop will take care of that? I have up to 1500, assume I need 2-3000 to get that razor shard edge. Overall I’m happy with it, it’s easy, kinda fun.. oh.. the lack of decent instructions is a let down. That’s why I’m here looking for advice/reviews etc.. I did contact them and they are quick to respond with websites etc to solve any issues I have.
Take the allen screw from the limit stop and install in the pivot ball holder.
Better to take it from the stone holder as that experiences very little stress to make it come loose.
I'm so glad you did this. I love mine to be honest
I've found that when you flip the knife the angle changes, how'd you get around that?
You don’t.
Forget about the flip feature and just undo the clamp and flip the knife
You’re moving the sharpening stone back and forth on the blade? You’re dulling it with every backstroke as you’re using the blade to shave off the whetstone. You’re supposed to do smooth long strokes from the tip of the knife down to the handle, pulling the stone out as you go.
You can push, pull or both on a stone. These types of systems are designed to go in both directions. The problem here is junk stones.
Thanks for all the work and heads up on products.
You bet!
Can you recommend a high quality sharpener? Thank you.
Dont know if you know but diamond stones need to wear in. That smooth spot is how to grit should be.
Nah these are crap it’s smooth because it wore away. I have several sets of quality diamond stones I know what’s what thanks.
I had one. I have used CNC machinig stuff as well. The whetstones are a joke, but easyly updateable whit diamond stones. And the structure couldn´t be better with less,😂
I´ve learned the same I learnt in Moto GP (PC): "everybody can accelerate in the straight line, many can manage the turn. And just a few control the angle all along the turn.
If you do bit of shopping around you can find versions of this with a metal balljoint.
I didnt know you were allowed to run the stone away AND into the edge. Like back and forth. Ive always through it was away from the stone and a single swipe does the full length of the blade.
Yeah I’m doing it wrong these stones are actually aces and the sharpener is top notch
@@GreenBeetle I never said the product was good or criticised you, I was asking about the technique. We can obviously see the issues with it as it's explained quite well. I also did not know that you're a f$&kwit, but now I do. Learnt another thing from TH-cam. Awesome.. Thanks. I've Subscribed for future tips and comments
@@racecrashrepeat KILLIN ME, LMAO.
Good review. Keep us up on how the system holds up. Thanks
I already gave them both to patreon supporters before I shut down patreon. I don't expect much longevity here but as long as the base holds up the rest can probably be maintained at minimum cost?
Wow!!! Have the owners or management from Ruivin contacted you regarding there product review?
I will keep you posted when my sharpener arrives .
As not to forget, I like how you review the product. Hopefully you will be repaid your hard earned money…
Bob
Take your old stones and double tape sanding paper to them to make your own sharping stones 👍👍
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I use my Tormek super grind whetstone.
All my chisels and axes 🪓 like razors
When I was apprentice my saws were Disston and used to sharpen by hand in saw stocks, set the teeth, used to find it relaxing
My experience with this sharpener, is that the fixture clamp holds the knife at 2 different angles. Mine has a 2 degree difference from one side to the other
Sounds about right
@@GreenBeetle I sent it back the same day I got it.
Right the angle is different when you turn the knife
Yeah it’s a pain, I just flip the knife and ignore the 180 feature
you used lancky system as you would advise please. this chinese with better diamonds or lancky with diamonds?
there is also this plastic worksharp at a similar price, but you can not buy anything separately there and with the entire upgrade it is not so cheap anymore
Lansky is fine
@@Palmotron There is a full 'upgrade' kit for the worksharp as well as aftermarket products available to use 4 or 6" stones. Check gritomatic
Interesting review...thank you for finally convincing me that sharpeners like this aren't worth the misery...why spend $100+ to make a $40 sharpener acceptable? I gave in and ordered the TSPROF Kadet (I hope the affiliate link worked!) and I'm excited to have a sharpener that I'm sure will last me the rest of my life.
"why spend $140 when you can spend $250!"
@@X4Alpha4X The Kadet was 100% worth the money...I couldn't be happier. It's pretty clear the Ruixin will be garbage no matter what you do to it.
@@jwiz1911
I disagree, I’m getting beautiful results with 1 minor mod that took 5 mins and replacing the supplied stones with a set of 10 diamond ones with a finest grit of 3,000 and it’s working perfectly for a total outlay of £70/$90. Apart from the handle mine is all metal (unlike the mainly plastic TS prof). My mod was to grind a flat onto the upright rod so the pivot can be locked in place more easily.
That ball looks like it might be teflon which would be a good material choice, maybe it's HDPE though which would still work for a while.
its clunky, sticks, catches and barely turns. if its teflon they wasted their money but yeah if it breaks its prob cheap to replace but in the meantime i don't think it functions as well as intended.
@@GreenBeetle Mine does none of those thing. Works perfectly.
Nylon. a dab of graphite dry lube and it's honky dorey
Is this the same one that is $120 on Wasabi Iki Ruixin Pro
I picked one of these up for $11 on Amazon a while ago. It’s perfectly effective from my experience, but is a bit of a hassle, so I tended not to use it
wow, $11 for the whole kit?
THe missing bolt is included and is already screwed into the hole where the vertical rod screws in. Remove the bolt and insert it in the blade holder.
It was there on the second unit but not the first
I too have ran the gambit of cheesy sharpening systems. I went with Wicked Edge and have never looked back. It was expensive but worth it.
Love this review 🙂 even know I won't be sharpening any blades anytime soon 😉
What system do you recommend?
Depends on your needs and budget.
Boss to review the rehoo pro rh006 i think its better than 008 and 009 ang much cheaper
hey, i was wondering what website you had in the video where you talked about the replacement stones! searches for "tsprof diamond plate set for edge pro" only resulted in stones that were +85 dollars ):
Their price went up
@@GreenBeetlenoooooooo 🥺
1. DONT soak stones, a spray bottle with water to keep the working surface wet is all that's required.
2. Use slow motion and use the full length of the stone. Your sharpening like your sawing wood. It's for sharpening not cutting a bevel. You pre edge it on a Tormek or Grinder then smooth it out with this
Manufacturer instructions often direct water stones be soaked prior to use - I’ve seen up to 15 minutes. I take the manufacturers at their word.
Stones often go down to 150-250 in grit and can be used for cutting or repair in that case. Also if a person is buying a $30 sharpener they likely do not already own a tormek or grinder.
From what i understand... Diamond stone need to be broken in... Sharpen a blank of metal on it or just keep sharpening a bunch of knives or use a cheap whetstone.
Stones are crap. You must lock that holder in place. If it rotates as in vid the angle changes for the stone. I filed a flat grove on the axle. Made it stay in place. Plastic is better than metal against metal. I filed the holder for that plastic ball down some to get rid of that play. Just screw the holder apart and carefully file some off. Go for Venev stones, best ever. Holds a lifetime.
Here is my thought, ... you have great taste in shirts. I have to same one :-)
Which sharpener do you prefer??
I start most stuff on the 2x72 and get it down to just under apex. Then I use 1 of 3 methods. Worksharp Ken Onion for convex edges or Arkansas stones followed by Shapton glass up to a very high polish or the Kazak Pro / TSProf to 5000 grit the latter being the most common way I sharpen stuff. Of the 3, I enjoy using the Arkansas stones the most but I’m not as proficient with them.
@@GreenBeetle
I've had the KME and the Ken Onion rigs.
Recently purchased the "Master Kit" from TSPROF, but haven't found time enough to sit down w/ it.
Hoping you'll do some TSPROF tutorials?
Thanks for the interesting content!
I'm trying to save money and still obtain decent quality stones for this system. The prices of the tsprof 5 piece diamond stones are now $90 instead of $50 in this video. Has anyone ever tried cutting up full size whetstones into 1×6in stones to use for these systems?
there is an updated 009 version which is a real improvement.
Good on you mate,saved me $$$$$$ once again
I ordered the same system and fortunately it came with all the parts. I personally didn't like the way the handle was, so I took it off and flipped it over so it hangs under the rod. That seemed a lot more stable and comfortable to me. Thanks for sharing and the info about the better stones. I'll definitely be ordering better ones once these wear out (so soon]. 👍⚒️🔥
How did you get on with it and which stones did you purchase?
I bought a set of diamond stones for $40 and although I’ve only sharpened 10 knives I’m very happy with the results I’m getting and the speed that I’m achieving. I did the same with the handle coz it feels more comfortable and ergonomic that way.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 I'm actually still using the same songs that came with it. I've basically just used it on a few of the kitchen knives, and they seem to be holding up. At least the higher grit ones anyway.
@@SoggyBottomForgeJoe
Yep, the higher-grit stones seem to last longer but my 2 lower-grit stones were getting perilously thin before my diamond stones arrived. So thin in fact that I took my Lansky with me just in case I needed it. I think I must have sharpened 50+ knives at the Foodbank where I volunteer so yours will probably last a while if you're just using it for your domestic needs. When you do need to replace them you'll be surprised how quickly the diamonds cut. I've got a set of 10 stones, 2 of the coarsest ones don't get much use and I use 6 of the remainder up to 3k to get a razor edge. Once the first burr is established with the 200 or 400 grit it only takes 2 passes on each side with subsequent stones to do the rest. I've only sharpened 12-15 knives with the diamond stones since they arrived so can't attest to their longevity yet though.
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 I'm hoping to get my forge cleaned up and get back in there soon. 🤞 then I'll have a few more knives to put under the stone. 👍⚒️🔥
anyone else notice that the angle is vastly different once you flip the knife over?
YES
mine came with missing stones too
Thank you! I've managed to cancel my order just on time....
Hey! Very nice review 👍👍🏽. I was wondering if you would like to resell at a lower price or giveaway the ruixin with the missing parts that you arent using, since you have two… I dont have the money to buy a new one right now. Sincery, tom
its gone
@@GreenBeetle thank you anyway
Gooday Mate, the 3 rd screw is mounted from new on the base plate. You'll find it easy, it's the one doin nothing. Peace out. Wayne
It was there in one but not the other