Two years back, I purchased two stones that cost me more than this device. I still couldn't sharpen my knives. I purchased this device online recently. The instructions included had me confused. Thank you for a step-by-step easy method of using this amazing device.
Set that angle from the blade not the casting. It's not always the same. To speed up angle setting you can take the time to cut tubes to slip over the vertical rod for each angle, That will also stop it moving down.
I suggest aligning the knife so the edge is as parallel as possible with the clamp rather than aligning the back of the blade. Also, I would center the blade length-wise within the clamp. That will give the most consistent edge width and make it easier to get a similar setup when re-sharpening. My unrequested two cents.
Worth every penny. In addition to your 2 cents, I’d test for a burr before flipping the blade, finish with a single stroke, very light stroke to knock the burr off and then strop to refine the edge and give it a mirror polish.
I recieved it yesterday, and used a very dull knife, few minutes later the knife is as sharp as a razor blade. This kit is no joke I highly recommend. I paid 50$ it came with around 8 wetstones, 4 diamond stones, and 1 leather strop. I only used the diamond stones with clean cut results.
I have consistently found that when you set your plad up, have all your angles measured, when you flip the knife over and just measure the blade angle and compare that to the previous side, there is as much as a 4 degree difference. That is significant. You can get the blade sharp, but not balanced. You end up with 2 significantly different bevel angles. So, I'm not talking about measuring the sharpening arm angle. Set your knife in the holding device, and measure the angle of the blade at the hilt. Flip it over and measure again. That ~4 degree angle is a problem.
I bought one of these and found it difficult to get a sharp edge. I do better with a Sharpmaker brand or a pair of sharpening wheels....the paper type.
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm th-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
i almost bought the precision sharpener but found this on amazon in the recommended section, thanks god the quality look much better and u can swap stones and buy more of them for cheap
A little bit of unsolicited advice. When you’re sharpening, you want to go with your current grit until you develop a burr on the edge, which you can feel for. That burr is how you know that you’ve gotten all the way down to the apex of the edge. When you’ve done the second side of your edge, and you flip it, go right to the next grit, giving it another 5 strokes, imo, is just taking off more material.
@@mariomonteleone9516 finish on a strop with compound, then bare leather for best results. Not sure If anyone makes a stop for this system, but you can make one yourself by cutting a wood blank to the size of the stones, then contact cement a piece of old leather to it.
@@Cjbrachio Bacher make a strop system for this. You can get either 1, 2, 3, or 4 strops and 4 compounds, 2000, 5000, 8000 and 12000. Not sure if they are available in the states as they are made in Poland. I'm in the UK and got mine from Amazon. It's about £30 for the 4 strop set.
@Desy Cheng I have one on the way, ordered it before i saw this video. Just a point, not a criticism, i always measure my angles when sharpening, i don't trust anything manufactured, especially lower end scale products which is what these are. You should be checking the angle of the clamp on both sides, because if the clamp is out, you will never achieve a correct bevel, and if you can't get a correct bevel, you cannot get a truly sharp knife. Very helpful video, thanks for posting.
I have this thing. It's impossible to get the same angle on both sides with this clamp. I have been struggling adjusting the angle of the stone everytime I turn the knife around. I will start thinking about designing a total new clamp. This one is just horrible.
@@com2stay Let's be honest these are cheap knock offs of varying quality. They are not honed and machined to specific tolerances, so getting equal or close angles on either side of the clamp is nigh on impossible. I got mine close by laying thin leather inside the clamp to balance it out, but every time you move it, the angles also move, even how tight you screw the bench mount can throw out the angles. If you can make a better clamp, you will probably have a good sharpener, but 2 things. Don't over tighten any of the screws, they strip out the thread very easily, and get yourself a ball joint clamp and get rid of the nylon one, it is a piece of junk. I just wanted to try this clamp system before i invested in a expensive model, glad i did, i don't like them, you cannot do alternating single strokes to hone your blade, you have to keep flipping the clamp over putting your angles out. I have a rest and flip by hand type on the way, same as the edge pro style, but made out of metal, with a couple of adjustments i am going to have a really good sharpener, that i can still get feel of the blade on the stone with my hand and a lot easier to use. These clamp types are not for me, but good luck with yours.
Thanks cudgee. I still think that 6 or 5 degrees off is a lot for a sharpener meant to be helping with precision 🤣🤣. You bought the other ruixin to try it ?
@@com2stay Anything over 1 degree off either side will stuff what you are trying to achieve, form your first bevel. I am going to strip mine apart for spares, the rest in the bin. No more Ruixin for me, i am going to try another brand called Cedita, they look good in the website advertising blurb, if they are as good as they look and i have some modifications in mind, should have a really good sharpener for $27 bucks US. If it is no good, same thing, strip it for spares and buy a original legit Edge Pro, i like them, and have all the stones for one already. I don't know what you are going to do, 6-5 degrees off is way too much. You can try and look at Robert Cuthill Ruixin Pro Knife Sharpener 15 Degree Adjustment on TH-cam. I tried his method and got it perfect, till i move the sharpener, then was our 2 degrees each side again. Have a look and try it, and let me know how you go when you get everything sorted, interested to know.
I just love my knife sharpener. It was relatively cheap, whatever that means, for me a great buy. Not only do you get the benefits of a sharp knife, it's a bit of a kick in the pants to do. I just love taking an old crappy knife, and turning it into a STAR! Have fun you all!
I returned it the day I got it. The clamps on mine stunk at holding the stones even thought I tightened the knob very tightly, they would fall and shatter
I see some old videos that have plates on the stones that clamp in the chamfer better. I guess it was a cost out which has ruined the whole system from the stones falling out.
Just a tip for anyone using a whetstone based sharpening system, you can use oil instead of water and that can add a little bit of corrosion resistance to the blade if it's going to be used outside. Stick with water if you're doing kitchen knives
Just from the video of you using it, it seems like it would have been better if the stones were wider, since they were rolling (slanting) left and right a little as you move it across the edge and you had to hold the handle to prevent that? I was hoping to only move the handle for the sliding action but no need to maintain proper contact of the stone.
I got mine today lost the spring screw in the back less spring tension for one handed use. I found a nob screw that fits a little longer works perfectly no more pulling it off the table
What kind of stone this unit comes with? Do they last pretty long before you have to replace them? Also, does the clamp hold a knife that is 1/4 inch thick? Thanks my friend if you could answer my questions, I appreciate it very much!
comes with the stones shown in this video! I have never had to replace them yet. As for the 1/4inch thiick knife, I'll have to measure it next time I use it
This sharpener is hit or miss since not all copies come with a fixed angle. When flipping the blade over the angle is different but 1-6 degrees depending the thickness of the blades= junk
In owning this as well as a few other "sets" with the same concept of this method of sharpening, I'd like to point our a few thoughts that might be helpful for those of us who are less than professionals. This is just my personal opinion: Positive: The bench 🗜️ clamp. Sorry that's all I have. Negative: It shouldn't take longer to set up than it takes to sharpen a knife. More specifically: 1)-Setting the angle is like an algebra test. Clamp is angled up 6° as opposed to level. Yes, I know about protractors & apps & the the sharpie marker but really? The vertical rod should have pre-etched angle increments like sets from other MFG's. 2)- 5 fasteners in The clamp!?!?: Need both a hex key & a Phillips head. Doesn't work on a thick blade nor a short/narrow blade. On other system, Press the tension rod with your thumb to open the clamp & twist with 2 fingers to tighten it. No tools or small parts required. 3)- No rubber nor padding in the clamp. Metal on metal Will not only slip, it'll scratch your knife. Improvise with a couple rubber bands on the clamp or painters tape on your blade. 4)- The plastic "ball". This defect is even obvious to the MFG. They now recommend changing to their "upgraded" guide ball. I think most of us would agree this upgrade (aka defect) should be provided to their customers as a courtesy. Nope!. . How kind of them to recommend you purchase it for $25. You can also upgrade to diamond grit stones for more $$ than you paid for the whole set. Now, With some Basic math & street smarts, this set equates to the 'Ol bait & switch.. I'll refrain from recommending by company names but, better designs are available under $100. Respectfully, The Blademaster
@@eo8513 : Thank you for taking the time to read & reach out. Although I don't have the: "Precision Adjust Elite" . I am familiar with "WorkSharp". Just watching a few clips, it puts the "Ruixon Pro" to shame. Set up looks quick & simple. ✅ Angles are pre etched.. ✅ Thumb press Padded clamp. ✅ The 4 sided guide rod looks to be an innovative time saver. (I'd still suggest wiping down between grits). I wish I could be more helpful but I'm at a disadvantage without testing it myself. Contingent on the strength & stability of the magnetic clamp attachment. I'd give this a 👍🏻.. Another set you might want to consider is the "KME". Taking the "positives" one step further. Their set up incorporates a pistol grip into the stand. This gives you the option to remove it from the base & hold it it safely in your hand. I find this to be quick & easier when I'm only looking to sharpen one or two knives. Wishing you Safe & Smooth sharpening, The Blademaster
@@800bigmike3 the angle labels don't matter. The angle changes depending on the blade dimensions and how it is clamped. Those labels are rough estimates. The sharpie is how you know what your stone is actually doing.
If you look at the other versions, the blade holder on all of them in their videos as online pictures show the Ruixin logo. Ruixin is the one on Amazon that is reasonably priced. The others are just rebranding and marking up.
Joe, I think this guy is promoting the app.. 😂 There's not one "simple or efficient" aspect with this sharpener. Especially idiotic is the confusion & time wasted in "finding" the correct angle. The design is a recipe for disaster albeit ruining a knife, cutting yourself or dropping your phone. Check out the "KME" The "WorkSharp" or the "Lansky" brands. All have similar sets, fixed at 45° with factory marked adjustable angle settings on the vertical rod as well as protective grip clamps that do not require tools. The only app I use when I'm sharpening is streaming my Classic "Rhythm Rock" playlist. 😉
What does that even mean? You're going to have to clarify your question so it can be comprehended by English speaking humans. The gibberish you asked might be able to be interpreted by aliens from a different planet, but not by anyone in this sector of the universe. That's just a bunch of random words strung into a sentence, and very poorly, I might add.
Man I must be doing something wrong. I don’t understand what’s going on here I purchased this because it was supposed to be like idiot proof and I’m tired of my chef‘s knives crushing a tomato instead of slicing it. I followed this video step-by-step and did everything with the angle off my phone just like you did but it’s like my knives are getting more dull than when I started. What am I doing wrong? 😂
I just got this and I'm wondering Do they make the stone for serrated edges like for bread knives How about even Scissors I'm just wondering And the video was very helpful very helpful
DON'T pull the stone INTO the edge. Stone should be drawn from the spine toward the edge...opposite of what you're doing. Personally, I would re-do the whole video with the proper sharpening direction. That way, you'll know how getting a burr feels, and you will show people the best way to sharpen.
Plenty of people have sharpened knives fine with the stone pushing into the blade, especially when you use 2000 grit and above stones, pushing into the blade can give better results.
To help polish the knife. Get bevel smooth. What is done with straight razor between shaves. Not necessarily as I understand for knifes unless you WANTED to go that extra step.
@@DesmondCheng fair enough. As long as it gets the job done. I have one and your video definitely filled in some of the blanks in operation. Thank you!
In practice, this rule is not really important. You can lift the stone, only land it on the edge with care. I tried different techniques on two different sharpeners of this type and sharpened many knives, so I can be sure. In all cases, the main working motion should be against the edge, if you use a stone, and out of the edge if you used a pad with a polishing paste on it (on leather, wood, or other materials).
I zero'ed it in on the main shaft that is holding the blade. Then I used that to find the angle of the whetstone! But BEFORE I did all of that, i was just using the default iphone level which was fairly accurate.
Okay, I just took a look at my unit and there is *no way* the circular arm is parallel to knife blade. It's not even close. In fact, it's about 16 degrees different.
So I have this too but I’m having a hard time getting my Misen chef knife sharp. I notice that when I check the angle along the blade…it actually changes and also when I go to rotate the blade it seems like one side is being held higher than the other?
When you set the angle for sharpening, you did not take into account that the clamp in relation to rest of the jig is already angled about 13 degrees. By logic, you should have set the sharpeneing stone to an angle of 7 degrees to get the desired angle of 20 on the blade.
@@kaikart123 He's saying the *clamp* is angled with respect to the *rest of the jig*. The bottom of the clamp *may* be in line with the circular part of the jig, but the top of the clamp clearly isn't, and the knife blade doesn't seem quite in line with either the top or the bottom of the clamp.
Keep practicing and try a less costly Lansky because that paper was not cut very well. Do these things for the knowledge and not the spiffs. Your camera knowledge comes from experience.
I think you “zero-ed” your angle app at the base of the stem. Shouldn’t you zero it at the blade? After all. The 17 degree angle is from stone to blade, right?
it didn’t look like he knew how to sharpen that knife using that sharping kit, he was just rubbing the stone left to right on the knife…he should of slide down with the stone and across in one motion then lifted and continued down the blade length... if you learn anything from this video is, not how to use this type of stone sharpening kit…
@@NYTROOPA I "zero" my angle app on the blade. From there, I adjust the arm/stone to 17 degrees. This way it doesn't matter what the set angle in the device is. Does that make sense? I do this again when I flip the knife... and intermittently to make sure it remains at the angle i chose, ie 17.
Nah, he zeroed it correctly. The angle of the shaft he measured is the same angle of the blade. Also his technique for dragging the stone on the blade is spot on. I’m not sure what y’all are talking about. I mean, the knife cut pretty well after sharpening it. What other poof you need….
Is it me, or are you making a capital misstake calculating the angle? You should deduct both measurements, now you establish like 17 degrees, but that is compared to the measured inclination, isnt it? so the angle to adjust = 17+inclination!
Anyone else had issue with the hole in the white ball being too small? I tried WD40 and the rod isn’t going in… I’m thinking about drilling a bit bigger… will that screw up the angles or something?
Honestly I don't have any real qualms with this specific equipment and I can see why it would make it easier for someone to get a whetstone style edge (whether the blade angle is perfectly measured on both sides or not) with the phone application. My issue is with their Social Media Marketing being aimed at the "74% of Americans who use dull knives in their kitchen". A half decent V-sharpener will give your average person more than enough edge for 99% of applications.
So razor sharp takes about 20 grams of pressure to cut a tension wire. And I am not sure your tomatoes test and pepper test prove razor sharpness as you can get the same results with 320 grit wet stone
@@DesmondCheng it's all good I loved the video and I bought the sharpener you are showing off here and I think you have the best demonstration available of the product that is both informative and entertaining as I did go buy the product. It's a common issue tho with influencer based knife companies and if you want to replicate the same tensile test you can make your own rig instead of spending the money on it with a piece of wood and some fishing line mono filament and a scale.
It is absolutely possible! If you cannot figure it out yourself, try to find it in TH-cam videos. One hint: look at the 5 screws on the clamp. Get yourself some longer screws.
The only angle that matters is the angle between the sharpening stone and the knife! The angle between the clamp holder and the bench is not relevant. Often using "smartphones" and apps hinders thinking!!! lol
I own this sharpener and unfortunately the wing nut thumb screw doesn’t stay tightened. No matter how much I tighten it, it comes loose ruining the angle. Very frustrating.
@@nyeleskettes Which one is the memory screw? The fat one that you can’t use the Allen key or the one that you can put the Allen key in. Sorry I don’t have it in front of me while I’m typing this 😅
@@fairlane32 Take the small allen screw from the stop that sits below the angle ball, and switch it with the crappy thumb screw on the angle ball. They're both the same thread size.
Two years back, I purchased two stones that cost me more than this device. I still couldn't sharpen my knives. I purchased this device online recently. The instructions included had me confused. Thank you for a step-by-step easy method of using this amazing device.
Set that angle from the blade not the casting. It's not always the same. To speed up angle setting you can take the time to cut tubes to slip over the vertical rod for each angle, That will also stop it moving down.
I suggest aligning the knife so the edge is as parallel as possible with the clamp rather than aligning the back of the blade. Also, I would center the blade length-wise within the clamp. That will give the most consistent edge width and make it easier to get a similar setup when re-sharpening.
My unrequested two cents.
Thank you for the additional details.
Worth every penny. In addition to your 2 cents, I’d test for a burr before flipping the blade, finish with a single stroke, very light stroke to knock the burr off and then strop to refine the edge and give it a mirror polish.
I recieved it yesterday, and used a very dull knife, few minutes later the knife is as sharp as a razor blade.
This kit is no joke I highly recommend. I paid 50$ it came with around 8 wetstones, 4 diamond stones, and 1 leather strop.
I only used the diamond stones with clean cut results.
Finally someone with the correct trajectory of the movement. Minimum wear and maximum result. Thank you.
And is the only guy that dont just drop dirt on Ruixin by using it worng and making the stones 10% dust on 10 passes.
I have consistently found that when you set your plad up, have all your angles measured, when you flip the knife over and just measure the blade angle and compare that to the previous side, there is as much as a 4 degree difference. That is significant. You can get the blade sharp, but not balanced. You end up with 2 significantly different bevel angles. So, I'm not talking about measuring the sharpening arm angle. Set your knife in the holding device, and measure the angle of the blade at the hilt. Flip it over and measure again. That ~4 degree angle is a problem.
I bought one of these and found it difficult to get a sharp edge. I do better with a Sharpmaker brand or a pair of sharpening wheels....the paper type.
I just fixed mine... I took a hammer and bashed the hell out of it and tossed the blade holder in the trash.
There is a TH-cam showing a fix for the angle difference problem using tape as a spacer in the blade holder clamp
@@J123G You shouldn't have to do that. the company should see all of the posts and make the correction.. just saying
@@firestick8075For as much as it costs, they should have remedied that issue during testing -I mean Surely they did Some testing….. right? 🤷🏼♂️
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm th-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
Thanks a lot for the feedback! I recently bought a Ruixin pro and I´ve learnt a lot with you! 😀
I have one and most videos on this leave out critical info on how to get the angle right. You did a great job.
i almost bought the precision sharpener but found this on amazon in the recommended section, thanks god the quality look much better and u can swap stones and buy more of them for cheap
happy sharpening!
How do you like it so far?
@@raffieb762 it's awesome :D
Get yourself a 4 mm ball end T-handle Allen wrench. It will make your life so much easier with this knife sharpener.
thank u for the tip!
Thanks for that tip! :) I feel really, really dumb now, LOL!
The small ferrule needs to slide up under the pivot ball ferrule to help hold the angle.
thank you, you video make it much move easy to follow then some of the others I watched
I got one of these recently. I can't wait to use it. Thanks for the video!
A little bit of unsolicited advice. When you’re sharpening, you want to go with your current grit until you develop a burr on the edge, which you can feel for. That burr is how you know that you’ve gotten all the way down to the apex of the edge. When you’ve done the second side of your edge, and you flip it, go right to the next grit, giving it another 5 strokes, imo, is just taking off more material.
I was just doing that on the stone and I noticed Then you have to finish it With a ceramic steel and It's much smoother
@@mariomonteleone9516 finish on a strop with compound, then bare leather for best results. Not sure If anyone makes a stop for this system, but you can make one yourself by cutting a wood blank to the size of the stones, then contact cement a piece of old leather to it.
@@Cjbrachio Bacher make a strop system for this. You can get either 1, 2, 3, or 4 strops and 4 compounds, 2000, 5000, 8000 and 12000. Not sure if they are available in the states as they are made in Poland. I'm in the UK and got mine from Amazon. It's about £30 for the 4 strop set.
Thee equipment is fine, the way u explained is also fine but how and where I can buy it ? Including spare water stones .
I’ve been sharpening downwards this whole time 🤦🏻♂️ knife still sharp but sheesh gonna do it right from now on hopefully the results are noticeable
@Desy Cheng I have one on the way, ordered it before i saw this video. Just a point, not a criticism, i always measure my angles when sharpening, i don't trust anything manufactured, especially lower end scale products which is what these are. You should be checking the angle of the clamp on both sides, because if the clamp is out, you will never achieve a correct bevel, and if you can't get a correct bevel, you cannot get a truly sharp knife. Very helpful video, thanks for posting.
I have this thing. It's impossible to get the same angle on both sides with this clamp. I have been struggling adjusting the angle of the stone everytime I turn the knife around. I will start thinking about designing a total new clamp. This one is just horrible.
@@com2stay Let's be honest these are cheap knock offs of varying quality. They are not honed and machined to specific tolerances, so getting equal or close angles on either side of the clamp is nigh on impossible. I got mine close by laying thin leather inside the clamp to balance it out, but every time you move it, the angles also move, even how tight you screw the bench mount can throw out the angles. If you can make a better clamp, you will probably have a good sharpener, but 2 things. Don't over tighten any of the screws, they strip out the thread very easily, and get yourself a ball joint clamp and get rid of the nylon one, it is a piece of junk. I just wanted to try this clamp system before i invested in a expensive model, glad i did, i don't like them, you cannot do alternating single strokes to hone your blade, you have to keep flipping the clamp over putting your angles out. I have a rest and flip by hand type on the way, same as the edge pro style, but made out of metal, with a couple of adjustments i am going to have a really good sharpener, that i can still get feel of the blade on the stone with my hand and a lot easier to use. These clamp types are not for me, but good luck with yours.
Thanks cudgee. I still think that 6 or 5 degrees off is a lot for a sharpener meant to be helping with precision 🤣🤣. You bought the other ruixin to try it ?
@@com2stay Anything over 1 degree off either side will stuff what you are trying to achieve, form your first bevel. I am going to strip mine apart for spares, the rest in the bin. No more Ruixin for me, i am going to try another brand called Cedita, they look good in the website advertising blurb, if they are as good as they look and i have some modifications in mind, should have a really good sharpener for $27 bucks US. If it is no good, same thing, strip it for spares and buy a original legit Edge Pro, i like them, and have all the stones for one already. I don't know what you are going to do, 6-5 degrees off is way too much. You can try and look at Robert Cuthill Ruixin Pro Knife Sharpener 15 Degree Adjustment on TH-cam. I tried his method and got it perfect, till i move the sharpener, then was our 2 degrees each side again. Have a look and try it, and let me know how you go when you get everything sorted, interested to know.
I tried the trick Robert was showing, but it took out the regidity of the clamps. And still the problem remains the same with a full flat grind.
Thanks mate , I’m about to test 👍
I just love my knife sharpener. It was relatively cheap, whatever that means, for me a great buy. Not only do you get the benefits of a sharp knife, it's a bit of a kick in the pants to do. I just love taking an old crappy knife, and turning it into a STAR! Have fun you all!
Thankyou sir this has been very helpful
Thanks for posting this!
Thank you! This was so helpful.
I returned it the day I got it. The clamps on mine stunk at holding the stones even thought I tightened the knob very tightly, they would fall and shatter
I see some old videos that have plates on the stones that clamp in the chamfer better. I guess it was a cost out which has ruined the whole system from the stones falling out.
I recommend upgrading to diamond stones you can get a set of 10 grit levels for cheap
Prossima spesa, era già in programma🤔🤔👍😉
Have you noticed the angle is not the same on the blade after the flip. How could have missed that . Every flip has to be re angled
Just a tip for anyone using a whetstone based sharpening system, you can use oil instead of water and that can add a little bit of corrosion resistance to the blade if it's going to be used outside. Stick with water if you're doing kitchen knives
most blades are stainless steel now
Just from the video of you using it, it seems like it would have been better if the stones were wider, since they were rolling (slanting) left and right a little as you move it across the edge and you had to hold the handle to prevent that? I was hoping to only move the handle for the sliding action but no need to maintain proper contact of the stone.
hi, good video what app did you used it for angle measure? I have android phone.. thank you
Use protractor. Simplest one
Measure on iPhone is what he used and is easiest if you have one
Aiming to develop a burr on the edge is vital.
Without this step you might stop just premature and not have a perfectly sharp knife.
Thank you for this Video 👍
no problem!
What number Stone do you start with and what number Stone do you end with
start with the lowest number and finish with the highest!
I got mine today lost the spring screw in the back less spring tension for one handed use. I found a nob screw that fits a little longer works perfectly no more pulling it off the table
What kind of stone this unit comes with? Do they last pretty long before you have to replace them? Also, does the clamp hold a knife that is 1/4 inch thick? Thanks my friend if you could answer my questions, I appreciate it very much!
comes with the stones shown in this video! I have never had to replace them yet. As for the 1/4inch thiick knife, I'll have to measure it next time I use it
This sharpener is hit or miss since not all copies come with a fixed angle. When flipping the blade over the angle is different but 1-6 degrees depending the thickness of the blades= junk
Check the degrees on both sides when you flip it over, you may find they are different on either side
great advice thanks!
what's the maximum thickness of knife's spine it can hold? can it handle 6mm?
Great review and how to.. One critique, level the music with the rest of the audio. I about wizzed myself with headphones on 😆 😆 😆
Are the whetstones good quality? I heard they are bad quality.
unfortunately im not an expert in this field so cant say how good/bad they are. But they work for me!
Would this sharpener also sharpen a 58mm swiss army knife?
Stones are soft. Wear away quickly
In owning this as well as a few other "sets" with the same concept of this method of sharpening,
I'd like to point our a few thoughts that might be helpful for those of us who are less than professionals.
This is just my personal opinion:
Positive:
The bench 🗜️ clamp.
Sorry that's all I have.
Negative:
It shouldn't take longer to set up than it takes to sharpen a knife.
More specifically:
1)-Setting the angle is like an algebra test. Clamp is angled up 6° as opposed to level. Yes, I know about protractors & apps & the the sharpie marker but really?
The vertical rod should have pre-etched angle increments like sets from other MFG's.
2)- 5 fasteners in The clamp!?!?: Need both a hex key & a Phillips head.
Doesn't work on a thick blade nor a short/narrow blade.
On other system, Press the tension rod with your thumb to open the clamp & twist with 2 fingers to tighten it. No tools or small parts required.
3)- No rubber nor padding in the clamp.
Metal on metal Will not only slip, it'll scratch your knife. Improvise with a couple rubber bands on the clamp or painters tape on your blade.
4)- The plastic "ball".
This defect is even obvious to the MFG. They now recommend changing to their "upgraded" guide ball.
I think most of us would agree this upgrade
(aka defect) should be provided to their customers as a courtesy.
Nope!. . How kind of them to recommend you purchase it for $25.
You can also upgrade to diamond grit stones for more $$ than you paid for the whole set.
Now, With some Basic math & street smarts, this set equates to the
'Ol bait & switch..
I'll refrain from recommending by company names but, better designs are available under $100.
Respectfully,
The Blademaster
Wow
Sounds like you know your stuff. What one do you recommend? Precision Adjust Elite?
@@eo8513 : Thank you for taking the time to read & reach out. Although I don't have the:
"Precision Adjust Elite" .
I am familiar with "WorkSharp". Just watching a few clips, it puts the "Ruixon Pro" to shame.
Set up looks quick & simple. ✅
Angles are
pre etched.. ✅
Thumb press Padded clamp. ✅
The 4 sided guide rod looks to be an innovative time saver. (I'd still suggest wiping down between grits).
I wish I could be more helpful but I'm at a disadvantage without testing it myself.
Contingent on the strength & stability of the magnetic clamp attachment. I'd give this a 👍🏻..
Another set you might want to consider is the "KME". Taking the "positives" one step further. Their set up incorporates a pistol grip into the stand. This gives you the option to remove it from the base & hold it it safely in your hand.
I find this to be quick & easier when I'm only looking to sharpen one or two knives.
Wishing you Safe & Smooth sharpening,
The Blademaster
@@800bigmike3 the angle labels don't matter. The angle changes depending on the blade dimensions and how it is clamped. Those labels are rough estimates. The sharpie is how you know what your stone is actually doing.
Dang i can tell how hard you tried to cut that paper at the beginning.....
I find that the angle changes dramatically when I flip the blade. Any solutions?
Has anyone noticed that the item is available for USD 175 on the companies site and for about 1/3 of that on Amazon?
I saw the ad on FB. Anytime I see something advertised on FB, I always check elsewhere for a better deal. Found mine on Ebay for 56.99.
If you look at the other versions, the blade holder on all of them in their videos as online pictures show the Ruixin logo. Ruixin is the one on Amazon that is reasonably priced. The others are just rebranding and marking up.
If you want a 17* angle, shouldn't you be setting it to 8.5* so that the total angle of the blade is 17?
Joe,
I think this guy is promoting the app.. 😂
There's not one
"simple or efficient" aspect with this sharpener. Especially idiotic is the confusion & time wasted in "finding" the correct angle.
The design is a recipe for disaster albeit ruining a knife, cutting yourself or dropping your phone.
Check out the "KME" The "WorkSharp" or the "Lansky" brands. All have similar sets, fixed at 45° with factory marked adjustable angle settings on the vertical rod as well as protective grip clamps that do not require tools.
The only app I use when I'm sharpening is streaming my Classic "Rhythm Rock" playlist. 😉
What about the the work sharp precision ?
What does that even mean? You're going to have to clarify your question so it can be comprehended by English speaking humans. The gibberish you asked might be able to be interpreted by aliens from a different planet, but not by anyone in this sector of the universe. That's just a bunch of random words strung into a sentence, and very poorly, I might add.
I see other reviews with the same model and they are not good unless buying another stone but add up more than an expensive one.
I'll have to try other ones! What other sharpener did you see that was good? Thanks!
thanks very good video
Great vid thank you 🙏
How would this device work with a double-edged dagger, the Cold Steel Tai Pan to be exact? I'm concerned about the clamp.
just cover the blade in some masking tape
Sir Desy, aluminium or steel material?
Only the highest quality Chinesium.
Can this do a 15 degree sharpened knife. I have AJ Henkel knives and it's ata 15 degree angle
I can't get it to sharpen at that angle
Yes you can but you need to use a level to find the angle. Your smartphone should have one built in!
Man I must be doing something wrong. I don’t understand what’s going on here I purchased this because it was supposed to be like idiot proof and I’m tired of my chef‘s knives crushing a tomato instead of slicing it. I followed this video step-by-step and did everything with the angle off my phone just like you did but it’s like my knives are getting more dull than when I started. What am I doing wrong? 😂
I liked the video very much.
Fantastic tool.
Clear explanation.
Good luck to you and your channel.
Thank you!
Hello, I have the same sharpener and it does not have the same angle on both sides when I turn the support. How can I get the same angle?
Thank you.
I have the same complaint
What was the name of measurement app for your iPhone? Can’t find one that I can zero in. Thanks
If on an iPhone, it should be a built in app called "Measurement." Search the apps already on you phone, it should be there.
What level app did you use?
Its MEASURE, that comes with your iphone!
Can you give link edge ANGLE
you neet to take 0° reference from knife not from stand ebase right? or am i wrong?
u zero it on the arm of the base!
Desy, can you provide a link to the specific model you purchased and showed in the video? Lots of this style out there, some worse than others. Thanks
Amazon
I just got this and I'm wondering Do they make the stone for serrated edges like for bread knives How about even Scissors I'm just wondering And the video was very helpful very helpful
On serrated blades you only sharpen one side, on scissors you just have to get the correct angel. Hope that helps
No, for serrated edges, you can't use whetstones. You need wooden rods wrapped in fine sandpaper then run those along each groove.
Which app can I find like that for my Android to find the correct degrees?
sorry not sure what app to use on android! get an iphone! lol
DON'T pull the stone INTO the edge. Stone should be drawn from the spine toward the edge...opposite of what you're doing.
Personally, I would re-do the whole video with the proper sharpening direction. That way, you'll know how getting a burr feels, and you will show people the best way to sharpen.
ohhh good to know!!!! thank you! ive been doing it wrong !!! THANKS!
@@DesmondCheng Was the video updated to reflect this? Seems like you are pushing. Just wanted to ensure I understand the comment correctly.
Plenty of people have sharpened knives fine with the stone pushing into the blade, especially when you use 2000 grit and above stones, pushing into the blade can give better results.
What's the leather strop for?
To help polish the knife. Get bevel smooth. What is done with straight razor between shaves. Not necessarily as I understand for knifes unless you WANTED to go that extra step.
I thought the directions say don't lift the stone on return?
i watched the ruixin pro video, and a video by gary huston, both of them lift their blades on return!
@@DesmondCheng fair enough. As long as it gets the job done. I have one and your video definitely filled in some of the blanks in operation. Thank you!
@@dradams13 =)
In practice, this rule is not really important. You can lift the stone, only land it on the edge with care. I tried different techniques on two different sharpeners of this type and sharpened many knives, so I can be sure. In all cases, the main working motion should be against the edge, if you use a stone, and out of the edge if you used a pad with a polishing paste on it (on leather, wood, or other materials).
Before you put your phone on the schaft where did you 0 it? On the table?
I zero'ed it in on the main shaft that is holding the blade. Then I used that to find the angle of the whetstone!
But BEFORE I did all of that, i was just using the default iphone level which was fairly accurate.
What app can I use?
iphone Measure. It should be an app that comes with IOS. It's an apple app
What is exact app he using to measure?
if you are using iphone, its called "Measure" and its actually an apple app that comes pre-loaded onto ios!
Which app??????????
Measure, comes standard with your iphone!
failed the tomato test, shame i had high hopes for this one.
Indeed.. He's reminds me of the "shamwow" guy.
A great salesman for a junk product
What app. For android?!?!
Okay, I just took a look at my unit and there is *no way* the circular arm is parallel to knife blade. It's not even close. In fact, it's about 16 degrees different.
So I have this too but I’m having a hard time getting my Misen chef knife sharp.
I notice that when I check the angle along the blade…it actually changes and also when I go to rotate the blade it seems like one side is being held higher than the other?
What the name of the app for getting the angle?
on the iPhone, it is called Measure. Then select the Level tab at the bottom.
@@cloew Protractor
I have it at home and its ok, but I have more fun with benchstones. So i want to sell it.
good to know thanks!
For how much?
17 gives you a 34 degree edge on the center, less than 34 on the left and right end of the edge
Angle doest change
When you set the angle for sharpening, you did not take into account that the clamp in relation to rest of the jig is already angled about 13 degrees. By logic, you should have set the sharpeneing stone to an angle of 7 degrees to get the desired angle of 20 on the blade.
No, when in 13 degrees position, he set it as the 0 position, so he can just angle it to the edge degree he wanted which is 17 degrees.
@@kaikart123 He's saying the *clamp* is angled with respect to the *rest of the jig*. The bottom of the clamp *may* be in line with the circular part of the jig, but the top of the clamp clearly isn't, and the knife blade doesn't seem quite in line with either the top or the bottom of the clamp.
What is the app called?
on your iphone its called MEASURE. its an app that comes with ios
@@DesmondCheng what if you do not have an IPhone?
Keep practicing and try a less costly Lansky because that paper was not cut very well. Do these things for the knowledge and not the spiffs. Your camera knowledge comes from experience.
I think you “zero-ed” your angle app at the base of the stem. Shouldn’t you zero it at the blade?
After all. The 17 degree angle is from stone to blade, right?
it didn’t look like he knew how to sharpen that knife using that sharping kit, he was just rubbing the stone left to right on the knife…he should of slide down with the stone and across in one motion then lifted and continued down the blade length... if you learn anything from this video is, not how to use this type of stone sharpening kit…
My directions state that the sharpener has a set angle at 15 so you only need to sharpen at 5 degrees is that right?
@@NYTROOPA I "zero" my angle app on the blade. From there, I adjust the arm/stone to 17 degrees. This way it doesn't matter what the set angle in the device is. Does that make sense? I do this again when I flip the knife... and intermittently to make sure it remains at the angle i chose, ie 17.
Nah, he zeroed it correctly. The angle of the shaft he measured is the same angle of the blade. Also his technique for dragging the stone on the blade is spot on. I’m not sure what y’all are talking about. I mean, the knife cut pretty well after sharpening it. What other poof you need….
@@nicholasvanlangendonck1397 I actually have this device. Do you?
Is it me, or are you making a capital misstake calculating the angle? You should deduct both measurements, now you establish like 17 degrees, but that is compared to the measured inclination, isnt it? so the angle to adjust = 17+inclination!
What do you mean? You want 17 degrees on one side only -- 34 degrees total.
I saw that you adjusted the angle to degrees only on one side of the knife, the other side of the knife, that you sharpened the knife so by chance.
What is the app you use ?
Following..
They are $30 dollars on Amazon right now
Anyone else had issue with the hole in the white ball being too small? I tried WD40 and the rod isn’t going in… I’m thinking about drilling a bit bigger… will that screw up the angles or something?
It isn't ideal. I would ask the seller for a replacement part or an entire replacement unit.
when u twist that thing the angle is 8% different.
Honestly I don't have any real qualms with this specific equipment and I can see why it would make it easier for someone to get a whetstone style edge (whether the blade angle is perfectly measured on both sides or not) with the phone application. My issue is with their Social Media Marketing being aimed at the "74% of Americans who use dull knives in their kitchen".
A half decent V-sharpener will give your average person more than enough edge for 99% of applications.
hahaha so true! yeah i was using a v-sharpener for my entire life and was fine with it
So razor sharp takes about 20 grams of pressure to cut a tension wire. And I am not sure your tomatoes test and pepper test prove razor sharpness as you can get the same results with 320 grit wet stone
haha my apologies! maybe the word i was looking for was just 'pretty sharp' as opposed to 'razor sharp' lol
@@DesmondCheng it's all good I loved the video and I bought the sharpener you are showing off here and I think you have the best demonstration available of the product that is both informative and entertaining as I did go buy the product. It's a common issue tho with influencer based knife companies and if you want to replicate the same tensile test you can make your own rig instead of spending the money on it with a piece of wood and some fishing line mono filament and a scale.
It is pronounced Raisin Pro
Rurixin made an upgrade - better version came up: 009 with better knive clamps.
oooo good to know!
What is the name of the app you used to get the angle?
On the Iphone go to utilities then click on measure then click on level.
its called MEASURE on the iphone! should come as a default app from iOS
Possible to sharpening scissors?
i dont think so!
It is absolutely possible! If you cannot figure it out yourself, try to find it in TH-cam videos. One hint: look at the 5 screws on the clamp. Get yourself some longer screws.
@@DesmondCheng Think again then. :-)
thanksssssssssssssss
I just feel that the stones grit starts falling apart while sharpening,
mine dont fall apart, but i do feel the grittiness !
Thank you.
The only angle that matters is the angle between the sharpening stone and the knife! The angle between the clamp holder and the bench is not relevant. Often using "smartphones" and apps hinders thinking!!! lol
I own this sharpener and unfortunately the wing nut thumb screw doesn’t stay tightened. No matter how much I tighten it, it comes loose ruining the angle. Very frustrating.
i swapped it with the "memory" screw. so the memory/stop i can set with my thumb and the other with the allen key.
@@nyeleskettes Which one is the memory screw? The fat one that you can’t use the Allen key or the one that you can put the Allen key in. Sorry I don’t have it in front of me while I’m typing this 😅
@@fairlane32 Take the small allen screw from the stop that sits below the angle ball, and switch it with the crappy thumb screw on the angle ball. They're both the same thread size.
@@boli4203 thanks for the tip!
Unfortunately, this is a real problem. I even damaged the thread on one of the stoppers trying to tighten it. Still, the sharpener pays off overall.
What's the lowest degree this can go? Most of my knives are around 12.
Yes it will I just bought it and it goes all the way down to 9 degrees
I think its more dull than when i started.
Did anybody else buy this but not get any results with it despite following the instructions on this video?
the stones didnt' work for u??!?
I've had this sharpener for a while and the angle changes when you flip it over. Seems like it takes forever to get a mediocre edge.