A significant part of the fun is adjusting the suspension. No way are you taking away my adjusters for an electronic switch - what else would I do all day?! I love my clickers! Thanks for the kickass info. I wish you would do a video of an actual car and describe whats happening and how the different changes impact the performance and show a back to back slow-mo so we can see and tell us what you're looking for...
Another great video guys. Especially since my car will be there in 3 weeks! One question, hopefully not a dumb one, is what's the difference between normal and aggressive drivers? I know it may seem obvious, but some of us who aren't racers and still feel young inside might think of ourselves as aggressive yet still fall in the normal range. I also think I'm thin and have more hair, but that's not true either. I ask because the fine gentleman at your shop asked me on the phone. Keep up the good work.
Hi Michael. Thank you fir the question. We stiffen the compression and spring rates according to aggressive driving but if your light weight then we may leave the set up alone since it’s stiffer with less weight. Balancing it a bit
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks for the reply. That makes sense but I should have clarified...how do I know if I'm an aggressive driver or not? When I'm with my wife trail riding I don't go as fast, but with a buddy, either trail riding or desert, I go much faster and harder. Is it as simple as set it up between desert and trail and then just adjust the shock settings on the fly? Bla bla, right? Sorry if I'm getting too wordy.
@@michaelrobbins1343 all good. If your not breaking or recking your car on the regular then your Probly not super aggressive. In which case you have plenty of adjustment to go soft fir the wife and stiffer adjustments for playing with the guys.
Question: Before I ask a question…or series of questions…this is my first SXS, and the skill sets that are normally associated with owners…are not mine. I have a 2021 Polaris RZR XP 1000 4…with a ton of modifications, but I just had HMF exhaust and header installed. I also added…after a suggestion…a Dynojet Power Vision 3 tune specifically for my set-up. However, there is no substitute for horsepower, and I noticed that Dynojet has a flex fuel kit; but is that juice worth the squeeze. In addition, if I decided to go that route, what fuel pump and sized injectors would I need to get the best results? I started out with an honest 110 horsepower, but with the exhaust, tune, flex fuel kit, bigger injectors and larger fuel pump…about where would I be in horsepower…general…round about…educated…guess?
I would honestly dare say I split all three pretty evenly. Living in michigan, we have silver lake that is real close, majority of our trails are fast paced sandy trails(similar to desert I'd say) and then we have a lot of offroad parks with mud and slow trails and rock crawling so would it be best to set up right in the middle and just adjust per ride? Very capable of adjusting the compression and rebound....and I'll actually get out of the car lol
Spot on! This was a great video in explaining this. I originally was going to say dunes and trails for me but after this its "desert" and dunes for me.
In mud, the car collects mud and weight increases a lot. Softer springs lower the car down to a few inches by reducing ground clearance. Wash out all mud and it gets raised to stock height. How to deal with that?
Easy. With a proper dual rate system you can run the cross over ring down just a bit. This brings the heavy lower spring rate in soon and stops the setting with weight like a stock spring system will do. Even lighter spring systems are great too.
In your guys expert opinion on 2018 polaris Rs1 that is always ridden mainly on Hatfield McCoy's and outlaw trails would you spend the extra money for fox rc2 upgrade or just do your guys internal shock valving upgrade? I do already have your spring kit upgrade . Any advice would be appreciated.
I would do the spring and internals to the factory shocks. We can make them very plush for your style of driving. I would recommend the foxes if you really drove it hard. They will excel there. 👍
I wish they would just make units specifically tuned for certain rides. If I buy a 72” wide x3 max in desert tan, why can’t it already be tuned for the dunes ? I understand the trail or 64” cars.they make a specific mud car why not dune car ?
21 cfmoto cforce 800xc , shock adjustments say fast /slow , can you explain this to me . Knobs at top and bottom of shocks . How do I adjust these for trail rides in Michigan ? Thanks !
@@ShockTherapyllc thanks for the reply. I’m in Northern California but go to hammers most years. Love the clearance for snow and rocks but also want to feel confident on the old logging roads around me.
Hey @shocktherapy. With the smart shocks, is there tuning available yet or just valving? I live in the Nevada desert but ride the rocky mountain trails too. There's also the couple of dune trips scattered in the year. It would be nice to just have the 3 types set to the 3 settings on my shocks. I'd like to get rid of the harsh ramp up on stiffness though. Waiting to hear about the smart shocks tuning in the works to do the springs and all at once.....
I get a laugh out of half these sxs owners that want shocks revalved or resprung and don't even know how to setup clickers,preload,crossovers etc....yet after they spend a g....oh man they great now! How so, if you don't have a clue on setup?
More ground clearance either the 32 would be better for both. The set up difference is minor. Little mire rebound fir the 32. Little more Comp fir the 32. Both due to weight. But it’s minor. Just a click or two. Not worth re Valving
@@itskerbc they mentioned he’s no longer with them in a previous video. Wouldn’t elaborate as to why but with their tone it was obvious he was fired and didn’t resign/ quit.
Funny I learned all this buying Polaris Snowmobiles, cause their best shocks are horrible! Will never buy another Top Polaris Snowmobile until they offer Fox or something better, the Walker Evans H/L were junk and the latest Velocitys were complete Garbage! Was so pissed with the one I bought last season I sold it with 400mi on it. Worst riding sled I've owned. And it was cause the shocks. Whatever Polaris spec is that they tell Walker to put in is HORRIBLE! I can't believe Walker would build shocks that bad and put their name on them. Unless they just don't care
I'm hoping the Fox On the Pro XP are decent i just ordered . I understand changing springs for stuff added to the car, hopefully they ride decent for the first few hundred mi
@@ShockTherapyllc hopefully, im debating the spring kit, but I probably should wait till I do spare tire mount and winch. Well let's see if it even shows up end of month lol
A significant part of the fun is adjusting the suspension. No way are you taking away my adjusters for an electronic switch - what else would I do all day?! I love my clickers! Thanks for the kickass info. I wish you would do a video of an actual car and describe whats happening and how the different changes impact the performance and show a back to back slow-mo so we can see and tell us what you're looking for...
Thank you. We will work on that
I like your video’s much better lately. Strictly business with good humor. Thanks.
another learn session. impressive u take the time to do these
learn so much watching you guys! thank you!! I just got my dual rate springs form you last month, cant wait for Glamis! nice shop
you got!
Thank you this was a great video explaining. I ride Arizona trails and desert like you guys so this helps a lot.
Thanks guys one of best tech Tuesday's ever! A lot of great info.
So glad you liked it. It was fun to do.
Are you gonna do an "install" video on the TUBE SOCKS?
Another great video guys. Especially since my car will be there in 3 weeks! One question, hopefully not a dumb one, is what's the difference between normal and aggressive drivers? I know it may seem obvious, but some of us who aren't racers and still feel young inside might think of ourselves as aggressive yet still fall in the normal range. I also think I'm thin and have more hair, but that's not true either. I ask because the fine gentleman at your shop asked me on the phone. Keep up the good work.
Hi Michael. Thank you fir the question. We stiffen the compression and spring rates according to aggressive driving but if your light weight then we may leave the set up alone since it’s stiffer with less weight. Balancing it a bit
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks for the reply. That makes sense but I should have clarified...how do I know if I'm an aggressive driver or not? When I'm with my wife trail riding I don't go as fast, but with a buddy, either trail riding or desert, I go much faster and harder. Is it as simple as set it up between desert and trail and then just adjust the shock settings on the fly? Bla bla, right? Sorry if I'm getting too wordy.
@@michaelrobbins1343 all good. If your not breaking or recking your car on the regular then your Probly not super aggressive. In which case you have plenty of adjustment to go soft fir the wife and stiffer adjustments for playing with the guys.
I testify!! lmao 🤣🤣you guys crack me up keep up the awesome work great videos 👍👍
thanks for all the info explains alot you guys rock
WOW!! Just killed 4 hrs on your videos 🤙🏻💪🏻
Question:
Before I ask a question…or series of questions…this is my first SXS, and the skill sets that are normally associated with owners…are not mine.
I have a 2021 Polaris RZR XP 1000 4…with a ton of modifications, but I just had HMF exhaust and header installed. I also added…after a suggestion…a Dynojet Power Vision 3 tune specifically for my set-up. However, there is no substitute for horsepower, and I noticed that Dynojet has a flex fuel kit; but is that juice worth the squeeze. In addition, if I decided to go that route, what fuel pump and sized injectors would I need to get the best results?
I started out with an honest 110 horsepower, but with the exhaust, tune, flex fuel kit, bigger injectors and larger fuel pump…about where would I be in horsepower…general…round about…educated…guess?
can you guys cover push, under steer and over steer
I would honestly dare say I split all three pretty evenly. Living in michigan, we have silver lake that is real close, majority of our trails are fast paced sandy trails(similar to desert I'd say) and then we have a lot of offroad parks with mud and slow trails and rock crawling so would it be best to set up right in the middle and just adjust per ride? Very capable of adjusting the compression and rebound....and I'll actually get out of the car lol
Absolutely. Set it up in the middle. There’s enough adjustment to cover it, since you can get out of the car!🤣👍
Spot on! This was a great video in explaining this. I originally was going to say dunes and trails for me but after this its "desert" and dunes for me.
great show
Thank You Justin.
In mud, the car collects mud and weight increases a lot. Softer springs lower the car down to a few inches by reducing ground clearance. Wash out all mud and it gets raised to stock height. How to deal with that?
Easy. With a proper dual rate system you can run the cross over ring down just a bit. This brings the heavy lower spring rate in soon and stops the setting with weight like a stock spring system will do. Even lighter spring systems are great too.
Do you guys do any work on Walker Evans shocks for Polaris Scrambler XP1000S? ATV
We have not but walkers are the same internally so there is no reason we couldn’t.
I do 50% dune, 50% desert and 50% trail. Figure that one out!
The first part of video, you said slower rebound for trail then later said up on rebound, so what is it.
In your guys expert opinion on 2018 polaris Rs1 that is always ridden mainly on Hatfield McCoy's and outlaw trails would you spend the extra money for fox rc2 upgrade or just do your guys internal shock valving upgrade? I do already have your spring kit upgrade . Any advice would be appreciated.
I would do the spring and internals to the factory shocks. We can make them very plush for your style of driving. I would recommend the foxes if you really drove it hard. They will excel there. 👍
I'll take a pair of socks too and a sway bar oh and a steering rack..... shit it never ends lol top of the line parts for sure!!!
Oh I can't wait for #roxannethecanam to get all done up 🤘🏽
What’s the proper shock set up for jumping in a turbo talon ?
For pure jumping, your going to want it stiffer on compression to handle the hard landings and with slower rebound to help keep it flat.
Is IQS better then my Fox Live Valve in my Talon?
So I’m not telling u 80% I’m telling u 50/50 lol
I wish they would just make units specifically tuned for certain rides. If I buy a 72” wide x3 max in desert tan, why can’t it already be tuned for the dunes ? I understand the trail or 64” cars.they make a specific mud car why not dune car ?
21 cfmoto cforce 800xc , shock adjustments say fast /slow , can you explain this to me . Knobs at top and bottom of shocks . How do I adjust these for trail rides in Michigan ?
Thanks !
Sorry but we don’t do dirt bikes or quads.
Can suspension be tuned for portals or should the geometry be changed? And if it needs changed what would help?
Yes it can. Portals just add more stress to all the moving parts.
@@ShockTherapyllc thanks for the reply. I’m in Northern California but go to hammers most years. Love the clearance for snow and rocks but also want to feel confident on the old logging roads around me.
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏
Thank you for sharing
Hey @shocktherapy. With the smart shocks, is there tuning available yet or just valving? I live in the Nevada desert but ride the rocky mountain trails too. There's also the couple of dune trips scattered in the year. It would be nice to just have the 3 types set to the 3 settings on my shocks. I'd like to get rid of the harsh ramp up on stiffness though.
Waiting to hear about the smart shocks tuning in the works to do the springs and all at once.....
I get a laugh out of half these sxs owners that want shocks revalved or resprung and don't even know how to setup clickers,preload,crossovers etc....yet after they spend a g....oh man they great now! How so, if you don't have a clue on setup?
30" tires vs 32" tires on rzr turbo dynamix 2 seat play car? and why.... half desert half trail riding.
More ground clearance either the 32 would be better for both. The set up difference is minor. Little mire rebound fir the 32. Little more Comp fir the 32. Both due to weight. But it’s minor. Just a click or two. Not worth re Valving
Are you guys hiring right now?
Always. Please send info to jobs@shocktherapyst.com
But really, where's Chase?
Chase is pursuing other employment.
Chase get fired? or is he cleaning cars in the parking lot on punishment?
They let him go
@@tylerd6517 how do you know?
@@itskerbc they mentioned he’s no longer with them in a previous video. Wouldn’t elaborate as to why but with their tone it was obvious he was fired and didn’t resign/ quit.
@@tylerd6517 ok thank you. I didn’t watch some of the videos and started watching this.
Dune - desert- trail - mud - rock crawling -
Funny I learned all this buying Polaris Snowmobiles, cause their best shocks are horrible! Will never buy another Top Polaris Snowmobile until they offer Fox or something better, the Walker Evans H/L were junk and the latest Velocitys were complete Garbage! Was so pissed with the one I bought last season I sold it with 400mi on it. Worst riding sled I've owned. And it was cause the shocks. Whatever Polaris spec is that they tell Walker to put in is HORRIBLE! I can't believe Walker would build shocks that bad and put their name on them. Unless they just don't care
I'm hoping the Fox On the Pro XP are decent i just ordered . I understand changing springs for stuff added to the car, hopefully they ride decent for the first few hundred mi
There are a lot of politics behind OEM shock set up good or bad. I think you will love your foxes.
@@ShockTherapyllc hopefully, im debating the spring kit, but I probably should wait till I do spare tire mount and winch. Well let's see if it even shows up end of month lol