I know that’s a leaf spring car, as my first car was a 1971 Torino 500, also a 302. But that shudder off the line could be checked with the use of air bags. Air bags inside of coil springs is an awesome way to tune your suspension for lots of different applications. It can increase your spring rate with higher pressures, and with almost none, like 5 psi to very little, like 15psi, maybe 20psi at the most, they can greatly assist the shocks with damping. Instead of the leaf springs relying on shocks which are not even truly connected to the action of the spring during launch windup, airbags can DIRECTLY damp springs as needed, whether leaf or coil springs. Obviously it’s easier with coil springs, as I just tucked them inside the coil springs on my modern Lx chassis, and that ended diff destroying wheel hop immediately. Think of them like snubbers, traction bars, but instead of a super stiff bar that “slaps” the leaf spring and keeps it from flexing too much, which also means that there is some space/time where/when there is nothing preventing the leaf spring from doing what it does best, flex. The front half obviously is flexing upwards, and behind the axle, it’s flexing downwards, like a long S drawn from the front spring perch to the rear. Of course I know that you already know these parts, but I’m trying to paint a picture. The bigger diameter airbags could be mounted on plates on top of the front halves of the leaf springs, preventing any more wind up than you want to allow. After all, it’s all about controlling the axle, and shifting weight rear wards. Since the front half of any type of suspension is trying to lift the rear of the car at the front pickup points, SOFTENING the leaf or coil would allow more weight transfer rearward, but the airbags could tune out the shudder and wheelhop. And save lots of parts in the process. It’s that give and catching of the axle that destroys diffs and axle shafts. Again, this ain’t your first race, to be sure, but I put air bags in my rear springs to reduce squat while towing a trailer. An unforeseen benefit was the ability to tune the suspension a bit. And each side can and should be plumbed separately thus allowing independent tuning of each wheel’s reaction to launches.
He has adjustable shocks , so he doesn't need air bags . There are tons of cars running much faster with the same suspension, no one is running air bags .
Nice car ! You still have wheel hop ,please add 2-3 more clicks to the rear shock to tighten the rebound. Adjust the front shock ,front end is settling back down too quick.
Good job car is RUNNING for a 302 , I went back in the Videos to see what has been done to the Torino. Gen2 garage is only 11.60's in the Dart w/340 , FORD First On Race Day .👍👍
@@mikeymac9 last year when I did SnY I stayed away from the DYO class, I was afraid I would be out there until the lanes closed trying to run a number to be competitive. I went with Stick Shift and ended up in the middle of a small pack.
@@russellbroadwell I’m in the D group so I’ll be out there all day waiting just to make a pass anyways lol. It’s the only class where I could be competitive. Going to slow it was down to like a 12.50 and just try to make it every day.
Will you just lower the 2-step and shift RPM? I never understood how you can consistently slow it down a second. Sweating in the group D line looks miserable. Tha last time I raced drag week was 2019 what they had class cars and street machine, I was one of those running a class that didn't have a snow balls chance.
@@russellbroadwell Yeah that’s the plan. We’ll see how it goes. I wish they didn’t do the run groups. Midwest Drags is open lanes for everyone. Works great. The handful of cars faster than 8.50 get a lane and can cut everyone but there aren’t many.
Let’s be realistic 😂 a 1.3x 60’ is low 10’s high 9’s at over 130mph lol We don’t have that power. A 1.52 is probably about as best we could get with 118mph power.
@@HioSSilver1999 It dictates the capability. It’s up to the driver, chassis, suspension, tires to get it there. At 3200 pounds, 400 hp, the best this car could see is a low 1.5.
Always a joy to watch that car run. Looks as if you are making progress. 😀
Congrats, your hard work is paying off🎉! I like how you’re now leaving the line👍
That 118 mph trap speed is good for some 11.20s with a bit better 60ft and some shift fu. Beautiful car man, and great power from that little 302.
Congrats on your success! That thing is rolling!!!
Thanks!
Car is working great 👍 🇺🇸
Hell yea!!! Congrats brother!!! 🇺🇸💪🏼 keep at it and good luck at Sick summer!
Thanks man!
Awesome 302 build !!!
Man i love this car!
Nice work 👏
Super impressive 302ci can push that big of a car into the 11's with no boost!
Nice work from friend
Hope you’re ok. Haven’t seen a new video in 3months.
@@Goodvibrations-Impickingup All good. Hoping to go for some personal bests in October. Been taking it easy on the trans racing 12.50 index.
I know that’s a leaf spring car, as my first car was a 1971 Torino 500, also a 302. But that shudder off the line could be checked with the use of air bags. Air bags inside of coil springs is an awesome way to tune your suspension for lots of different applications. It can increase your spring rate with higher pressures, and with almost none, like 5 psi to very little, like 15psi, maybe 20psi at the most, they can greatly assist the shocks with damping. Instead of the leaf springs relying on shocks which are not even truly connected to the action of the spring during launch windup, airbags can DIRECTLY damp springs as needed, whether leaf or coil springs. Obviously it’s easier with coil springs, as I just tucked them inside the coil springs on my modern Lx chassis, and that ended diff destroying wheel hop immediately. Think of them like snubbers, traction bars, but instead of a super stiff bar that “slaps” the leaf spring and keeps it from flexing too much, which also means that there is some space/time where/when there is nothing preventing the leaf spring from doing what it does best, flex. The front half obviously is flexing upwards, and behind the axle, it’s flexing downwards, like a long S drawn from the front spring perch to the rear. Of course I know that you already know these parts, but I’m trying to paint a picture. The bigger diameter airbags could be mounted on plates on top of the front halves of the leaf springs, preventing any more wind up than you want to allow. After all, it’s all about controlling the axle, and shifting weight rear wards. Since the front half of any type of suspension is trying to lift the rear of the car at the front pickup points, SOFTENING the leaf or coil would allow more weight transfer rearward, but the airbags could tune out the shudder and wheelhop. And save lots of parts in the process. It’s that give and catching of the axle that destroys diffs and axle shafts. Again, this ain’t your first race, to be sure, but I put air bags in my rear springs to reduce squat while towing a trailer. An unforeseen benefit was the ability to tune the suspension a bit. And each side can and should be plumbed separately thus allowing independent tuning of each wheel’s reaction to launches.
He has adjustable shocks , so he doesn't need air bags . There are tons of cars running much faster with the same suspension, no one is running air bags .
Nice car ! You still have wheel hop ,please add 2-3 more clicks to the rear shock to tighten the rebound. Adjust the front shock ,front end is settling back down too quick.
Good job car is RUNNING for a 302 , I went back in the Videos to see what has been done to the Torino. Gen2 garage is only 11.60's in the Dart w/340 , FORD First On Race Day .👍👍
Thanks! Just a basic heads cam intake 302.
You might have a better 60ft if you had roller bearing spring perches and A arms to transfer weight and less restrictions just a Idea .
Thats a very strong running 302. Ever thought about putting a 351 into the car?
Thanks man! No, I’m an 8.2 deck guy. When the 302 pops we’ll put in a 363.
Congratulations on the PB! Good luck at sick summer, what class do you plan to run?
Thanks! We are going to do dial your own. That way I can tone it down and go slow and just make sure we make it all 5 days.
@@mikeymac9 last year when I did SnY I stayed away from the DYO class, I was afraid I would be out there until the lanes closed trying to run a number to be competitive. I went with Stick Shift and ended up in the middle of a small pack.
@@russellbroadwell I’m in the D group so I’ll be out there all day waiting just to make a pass anyways lol. It’s the only class where I could be competitive. Going to slow it was down to like a 12.50 and just try to make it every day.
Will you just lower the 2-step and shift RPM? I never understood how you can consistently slow it down a second. Sweating in the group D line looks miserable. Tha last time I raced drag week was 2019 what they had class cars and street machine, I was one of those running a class that didn't have a snow balls chance.
@@russellbroadwell Yeah that’s the plan. We’ll see how it goes. I wish they didn’t do the run groups. Midwest Drags is open lanes for everyone. Works great. The handful of cars faster than 8.50 get a lane and can cut everyone but there aren’t many.
Get the 60’ down to like a 1.3 things going 11.0/10.9 all day
Let’s be realistic 😂 a 1.3x 60’ is low 10’s high 9’s at over 130mph lol We don’t have that power. A 1.52 is probably about as best we could get with 118mph power.
@@mikeymac9 nothing a little 100 shot cant fix🙂😂
@@Tylernunz After we get a roll bar we can try a 200 shot lol
Power has very little to do with the 60'
@@HioSSilver1999 It dictates the capability. It’s up to the driver, chassis, suspension, tires to get it there. At 3200 pounds, 400 hp, the best this car could see is a low 1.5.
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I think it could have took a 7000 launch.