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#yugioh #anime #ruling - เกม
The Slifer blinking explanation for why Final Attack Orders doesn't start a chain is perfect
its the I Sleep/Real Shit meme, but with Slifer
Man, screw Slifer the Sky Dragon, my money's on Slifer the Glock Dragon
@@REvoLverj98 dude turned into a rokket
Slifer: I sleep
Dryrton alpha: *exists*
Slifer: REAL SHIZ?!?!
Alpha pulled up to the wrong neighborhood
Slifer gets out a comically large pan
*Drytron alpha thuban summon in defend pos
Sleepher: isleep
*it swich to atk pos
Slyfer: *REALSHIT*
F
@@dedbot9872 f
There's nothing more Dzeef than instantly getting all the difficult questions correct but throwing the easy questions by failing to read cards
Isn't that just his brand at this point?
Truly a yugioh player moment
Dzeef the kind of guy to save his potions in an RPG for a "better opportunity"
And ends the final battle with a full stock because he never used any of them.
@@TheHeartlessAlchemist i feel attacked here
but what if there is a secret 9th question
He's saving it for season 3
That's so me
Can't wait for "Does Cimoooo know Berserk Gorilla rulings?"
YES!!!!!
Oook oook aah aah!
“It blinks and then it pulls out a Glock”
- DistantCoder, 2022
Next Dzeef video:
"Why Nobody Reads The Egyptian God Cards"
will dzeef finally read? let's find out
Fafra also, it's so funny but hurt the same time
nope. that's still a no.
Well, he does not
He did not
This is why yugioh player is the most pepega tcg comunities.
On one hand they can formulate absolute perfect plan to play around every possible interruption and saueeze in every advantage they can
On the other hand they forgot they also forgot that their card have restriction or did some stupid blunder
"I'll try to read the cards."
-Douglas "Verte DPE" Zeef
I would love to see TheDuelLogs on one of these rulings quizzes with either Melffys or Springans (iirc he said Springans is his favorite archetype). Either way, absolutely love this show and this episode!
Or dpe rulings
Can't wait for him to dethrone Sam. XD
Or luck based cards
I didn't know he liked Springans that much. Good taste in archetypes.
Tenyis would also be funny to see, unless a tenyi one was already made.
Slifer on card effect to summon: "I sleep."
Slifer on successful summon with the monster now in attack position: "REAL SHIT?!"
@DistantCoder: one of the correct answer you give with the rulling question was incorrect, it would not have interfer with Dzeff because he answer it wrong either way. I copy an paste strate from the rulling page of yugipedia "Slifer the Sky Dragon" is targeted by "Shrink", after its ATK becomes half of its original ATK, its effect that causes its ATK to become the number of cards in your hand x 1000 is applied once again, and the ATK ends up being the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Also, even after the effect of "Shrink" wears out, the ATK is still the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Furthermore, even if the number of cards in your hand varies, the ATK varies according to the number of cards in your hand. When you told the correct answer you told the rulling for megamorph.
So, is Slifer's stat boost basically a continuous effect?
@@gianlucam7456 unless negated which shrink in reference doesn’t do, yes he still would gain attack to however many cards you have in hand
I was literally about to comment on this. Shrink targets the original ATK, and the text on the card clearly says it "gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each card in your hand", not "Original ATK becomes x1000 for each card in your hand".
After reading Silfer and Shrink I was 100% sure that Slifer’s attack would remain 4000 but.. idk now?
Imo this series is the ticket to boosting the distantcoder brand and channel
I looked for Rulings on Slifer Vs Shrink and this is what I found:
If "Slifer the Sky Dragon" is targeted by "Shrink", after its ATK becomes half of its original ATK, its effect that causes its ATK to become the number of cards in your hand x 1000 is applied once again, and the ATK ends up being the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Also, even after the effect of "Shrink" wears out, the ATK is still the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Furthermore, even if the number of cards in your hand varies, the ATK varies according to the number of cards in your hand.
So If I’m reading it correctly Slifer will become 0 then immediately once the chain has resolved become 1000x the number of cards.
So Doug still got it wrong but so did Coder. It’s attack will be 4000 once the chain is resolved.
I'm just confused whether it's confirmed that a printed ATK of ? counts as an original ATK of 0.
@@MansMan42069 well Slifer says it “gains attack equal to…” meaning if its at 4K for 4 cards then ? must be 0.
@@MansMan42069 ? ATK/DEF means it's unconfirmed everywhere except the field
While on the field, its original ATK is equal to whatever effect changes its original ATK. In the case of Slifer, he has none, it only changes its overall ATK, so its original ATK on the field is 0
King of the Skull Servants is an example of a card that changes its own original ATK, and if you use Shrink on it, then its ATK changes will stop, unlike what this ruling says about Slifer, since King's ATK change is to its original ATK directly, which you are setting to a specific value (that being half of whatever it is at the time of activation)
@@jk844100 A lot of things "must be", but somehow aren't 😅
@@MansMan42069 if Slifer said “this cards ATK *becomes* the number of cards in your hand x1000”
Then it’s ? ATK would truly be undefined because it’s ? Could be 10 Billion but *becomes* hand x1000.
The Twitch chat lifeline is better than it seems because you know they’re all just going to look it up and put the correct answer
Or look it up to specifically give the wrong answer
@@exzyyd392 that too, but there’s always more people who want to be right than who want to troll
Yeah public polls are always the most powerful imo through averaging processes when it comes to trolls vs ppl who know the answer
It is funny since TheDuelLogs Duel Logs
has a Yugioh Trivia show which occasionally also includes rulings and the Twitch chat lifeline has always been correct in every time it is used.
Never trust Twitch Chat
Man, doug knew a lot of the mistakes he got. He just second guessed himself. It shows he still has the knowledge!
Yeah, pressure is one hell of a thing and it can definitely mess you up or make you remember completely wrong
*Alpha Thuban gets summoned in defense before considering F.A.O.*
Slifer: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
shrink halves the original atk, since the original atk is 0, slifer's attack is 4000
overall nice presentation but it would be nice if it was easier to read the critical cards' text at all times. it is nice that you usually at least show their text but in that format it's too tiny to read, and sometimes there are multiple cards I would like to read myself but only one is being selected. no big deal but it's fun to play along and harder if I have to go google each card by myself
The unaffected vs slime is the same reason why you can attack with an unaffected monster against swords of revealing light and not mystic mine.
Cards that mentions monsters affect them.
I’m pretty sure if it was Threatening Roar (Your Opponent cannot declare an attack), then it couldn’t attack
@@eugenideddis Yep, that's correct.
dzeeff: Twitch chat doesn’t know anything
TheDuelLogs’ twitch chat: You think so?
I actually remembered that towers ruling from rhongo being able to attack even though satellarknight altair locks you into attacking with satellarknights.
Ruling quiz season two let's go! Missed this on stream glad to see the vid so soon!
I freaking love how Doug can be so hilarious even if his tone is usually so serious. It's just so perfect
I have to really call out the second question Shrink interaction. The ATK gain is a continuous effect, exact wording "Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each card in your hand", not "this card's original ATK/DEF is 1000 * the number of cards in your hand". Rulings on cards like Jester Lord, Ra, Wiracocha Rasca, The Tyrant Neptune, etc. with the same wording state that Shrink only changes the original ATK from 0 to 0 but then the ATK gain via their effects is unchanged. Why would Osiris be different from these cards with the exact same type of effect?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was shrink setting the attack until end of turn which overrides any attack gain or loss
Unless it's a translation error from the Tcg, shrink only sets the ORIGINAL attack to half of itself, not the actual attack. Slifer isn't negated, so its attack gain effect should still apply. It should logically have 4000 attack
@@emilianoflcn that's how it usually works when an effect sets the current Attack to a certain value, but Shrink changes the original Attack to half, which is just 0. When the original Attack is set to a new value, other effects that increase/decrease are re-applied based on the new original Attack. Slifer should stay at 4000 in this scenario.
Still hoping to see "Does Hardleg Joe know Crystron Rulings?"
Oh boy do I have a news for you 😊
Damn, the new layout looks great! Very fun vid, really well put together.
Only have a lil constructive criticism: Idk if they got edited out from the VOD or not, but some more thorough explanations on why certain cards worked the way they do in the rulings would be v much appreciated. Some were explained really well, and others were more just "doesn't work that way", and I was left curious as to why. They may have been edited out for length which I do get though. And the only other thing, I just kinda wish the cards' text was more readable! The popups with the relevant text on screen was super helpful, but there were some questions, while trying to guess along with the video, I wish I didnt have to look up the card to read it haha.
But yeah, yall outdid yourselves this time. Excited for the rest of this season, super happy to see this series back!!
Dude the new layout is so nice, looks so professional. Coder is out here raising the bar for yugitubers
I love that you're now giving yourself the time to point at every card as you ask the question so now I have the chance to read them on the video, I previously had to google some of them in a separate window in order to follow what was going on. This is much more enjoyable, congratulations to you and Mr. Editor!!
Triff with Spright should be hilarious. Then again Triff with any deck would lmao. Cool seeing the series come back.
Joseph and plants so he can scream piss shoukan everytime a link summon is performed (also throw dark law in somehow cause we all know is a verified fact it's his favorite card)
I have been waiting for this show to return for MONTHS and to see it now in it's current form makes me SO happy. I am blown away by the editing and the new look. Amazing job guys
im so glad these are back. always fun and interesting to watch
The visual of the great dragon god of thunder falling asleep for a few seconds, snapping back up and noticing the dragon machine fueled by starlight, thinking to itself "yeah that seems about right" and pulling out a tiny little Glock with it's small arms to shoot the thing is the most Yu-Gi-Oh visual of all time.
a quiz about Raidraptor with Farfa would be cool
So hyped for Season 2! Last season was one of my favorite series on Yugitube
we gonna get MBT with ghostrick rulings this season? :)
So any chance we will get MBT last turn rulings?
That would be the ultimate meme
I love this series! So glad it’s back!
The Ra Immortal Phoenix question proved again that Doug is indeed a Yu-Gi-Oh! player.🤣
actually the shrink ruling is wrong, since shrink only changes original attack, slifer's original attack will be 0, then its continues effect re-applies and its attack becomes 4k again
Wtf happened in question 2?
From the ruling section of Slifer in the Yugioh Fandom Wiki:
"If "Slifer the Sky Dragon" is targeted by "Shrink", after its ATK becomes half of its original ATK, its effect that causes its ATK to become the number of cards in your hand x 1000 is applied once again, and the ATK ends up being the number of cards in your hand x 1000."
I haven't even started watching and I already left a like
Was hopping for this to come back , EPIC
If Dzeeff doesnt know rulings about Slifer, imagine his skill issue about DM
Ruling quiz is what got me hypt for this chanel and its back
i love these videos! So much fun to watch :)
Asking Twitch chat for help isn’t a lifeline, it’s a debuff
Got everything right, except Number 3 (and also I guessed a bit at Number 8)
Thanks for the specific ruling
A technical explanation of slifer's wink can be inferred from damage step procedures, which apply continuous effects during or because of each substep b4 allowing that substep's activatable effects to be used.
Man the rambling on why slifer works was so funny! hahaha
Slifer Blinked is the best explanation ever
This season 2 is great ! I would like to see Gabriel Soussi again, maybe for a mathmech or a swordsoul ruling quizz !
The last question was so simple, it's an if effect, as such, it triggers on a new chain, meaning for all intents and purposes the alpha was never in defense
Noo the Slifer blinked xD
you say the last one is simple but....I've been versus people who state it doesn't because it wasn't in Attack position on summon (then again I've had people who have the cards/effects cannot be activated when this card is normal summoned mean that you can't activates cards/effects for the rest of the duel so make of that what you will.)
That final attack orders ruling is basically the reason why bottomless trap hole can destroy a don zaloog if mystic plasma zone is on the field, but slightly less intuitive because turning the card vertical feels like an action that should start a chain in a way that adding 500 ATK doesn't
I honestly would like to see a galaxy/photon ruling quiz to learn about the type of interactions they may have.
Man, the production values of this show have gone WAY up for the second season, this is so cool.
It would be great if TheCalliEffect join this Quiz show.
I missed this series :)
Edit: the last explanation was on point :D
Brooooo, the production is top notch 💪
Godbless Mandarin for bestowing Lemon with the answer for the Final attack orders Answer.
"Shoot first, ask questions later."
I recently learned about the unaffected monster vs Aqua Argonaut/God Slime style monster and was hoping Dzeeff would get it. Def tough tho. Great video again, Coder!
It could be really cool to get MBT or Cimo back, and have questions based on decks they've played in History of Yugioh
that shrink ruling may be correct but its a war crime that it works in that nonsensical way
It's actually not, 'though
There's a specific ruling with Shrink and Slifer that states his ATK will drop to 0, but then immediately spike back to whatever his effect allows it to be. It then goes on to say that it retains this attack after Shrink wears off, implying that the former all happen while Slifer is affected by Shrink
This doesn't just apply to continuous effects either, as a nearly identical ruling can be found with Ra. I believe Shrink with overwrite effects that *set* ATK to a certain value (there's a lot of rulings for that), however Slifer and Ra both *gain* ATK from their effects. It would also hypothetically overwrite cards that gain Original ATK, but to my knowledge all cards that adjust Original ATK set their Original ATK rather than gaining it (such as King of the Skull Servants)
@@cdgames69 so your saying coder is wrong?
@@yurazah Either that or there's a ruling difference between TCG and OCG, however I can't think of any way that attack change rulings are different. The differences are mostly with trigger effects, I can't find anything to suggest that attack changes would be different
I've also found some TCG rulings involving Jester Lord (who similarly gains ATK from its effect), but they were on the wiki, and their source seems to have vanished, leading to the Yu-Gi-Oh home page instead, although this is likely moreso due to the fact that they only ever keep a single FAQ on their website at a time for some reason
@@yurazah for that specific ruling, yes, he's wrong. An activated effect that sets the original attack to a new value does not prevent increasing/decreasing effects from working. He confused the shrink interaction with Megamorph, which sets current attack to a new value, instead of original attack.
Doug and losing to reading. Name a more iconic duo
Dkayed and Adventures
Terraforming and verdant sanctuary
konami be like: yeah dude lets do some exclusive rulings for every card in the game and then proceed to not tell anyone except distantcoder
We need MBT on here doing ghostrick rulings it’s the redemption arc
Hah Yugi you’re monster had dirt in it’s eyes and blinked on summon so it missed timing, fool! -Kaiba I guess
Once more, I advocate for the finale being Lantern thrown the hardest questions conceivable
Yo Coder you should put bigger image of card effects for us to see the effect of cards because probably some of us want to do these questions on our own
An easy way to think about "Unaffected" monsters vs. "Opponent cannot target for attacks" is that we don't target for an attack first, we select a monster to attack with first. Once we choose a monster to attack with, then we choose an attack target, so if we select an unaffected monster to attack it can target the un-targetable. I honestly got that one wrong due to the "Opponent cannot target" phrase, I figured it affected the opponent, so I came up with that explanation 😆 Yet another lovely Battle Phase exception!
That slifer final attack explanation makes me want to see art of Slifer pulling out a glock and shooting Alpha
I was playing MD last night and my opponent was using every effect at their disposal to out my Kikinagashi fucho despite it being unaffected by card effects. They even tried to dropplet it TWICE 😂 they passed 3 turns without attacking over it even though it had no materials left on it 😂
It's nice of you to provide a single lifeline to your contestants
You should get the cali effect on one of these shows with shaddolls!
this was the best one yet lol
So the Vanity's Ruler ruling I knew about because a similar situation with Guardragons occurred where People would summon Majestic Star Dragon and claiming it would remain on the field because Stardust isn't in the GY to activate its effect. If it's a mandatory effect it will activate, whether it resolves fully or not is irrelevant in the sense of mandatory activations
Dzeeff is the kinda dude that saves all the health potions for the final boss but never uses them
Next Dzeff video:
Why Slifer the Sky Dragon carries a Glock
I thought the pendulum mechanic was that the card when returned face up to the extra deck was considered to have passed through the GY
Wait I'm mega confused on the Shrink why would changing Slifer's original attack result in its current attack changing at all when Slifer's 4000/4000 comes from its effect "Gains 1000 ATK/DEF for each card in your hand." So before the Shrink, Slifer has 0 original ATK and 4000 ATK added by its effect, Shrink halves 0/2 = 0, Slifer's effect still gives it 4000 ATK. What am I missing here?
It changes its attack to half of its original, which is 0, and locks it at that value for the rest of the turn.
It changes its ORIGINAL attack to half of the original. The current attack isn't locked.
If "Slifer the Sky Dragon" is targeted by "Shrink", after its ATK becomes half of its original ATK, its effect that causes its ATK to become the number of cards in your hand x 1000 is applied once again, and the ATK ends up being the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Also, even after the effect of "Shrink" wears out, the ATK is still the number of cards in your hand x 1000. Furthermore, even if the number of cards in your hand varies, the ATK varies according to the number of cards in your hand.[10]
YES MY FAVORITE SERIES LETS GOOO
Yoooo
I was just rewatching the old episodes
Fun fact: I knew the answer to question 3 because I had a scenario similar to this with controlling Crusadia Maximus and Geomathmech Final Sigma where Crusadia Maximus' effect makes it where only Maximus can attack but since Geomathmech Final Sigma is immune to card effects except for mathmech cards then Geomathmech Final Sigma can attack along with the Maximus
Alpha Thuban when he saw Slifer blinking : "Oh shit....."
Finally back with rulings BBY!!
Dzeeff and Coder what more could I have asked for
Love this series! You should do o37wolf on Synchron rulings one day
I love the idea of slifer pulling a Glock on its enemy
Thoughts on adding a way for people to get back points? Maybe like a bonus question on some of the setups that gives half a point back, if you’ve lost any?
That final answer is hilarious 😂
„The end phase of the duel“ -Distant Coder
I wanna see Slaydra/Asian eyes with Lightsworm or chaos dragons
We should fund and build a real life duel academy with Coder as it’s principal
nice. Finally Yugituber is back
Next season we need Doug to answer questions about Sky Scourge Fluffal Butning Abyss
Slifer with a Glock, why does this sound like Cells next opponent in the DevilArtemis Universe
Can we have DKayed in Season 2? Adventurer Rulings
😂😂
He didn't even bother using the lifelines lol
Slifer blinks🤣🤣🤣
Where do you come up with this things?