Dzeeff would have no need to do this if Konami didn't constantly screw over the Yugioh series with awful rulings. I mean seriously banning monster reborn? Turning Ra into such a complete joke? Taking away the ability to even play Fusions without Link Monsters? Imagine how great a Yugioh free of Konami's dumb decisions would be? The anime & manga wouldn't be forced to sell disappointing cards or shove new gimmicks down our throats anymore! We could see an alternate reality where Dungeon Dice Monsters replaced the Duel Monsters card game! Konami was always the worst thing to happen to Yugioh! Konami is the reason I actually despise Yugioh these days, it's another greedy company that came & chose to royally screw over our childhoods. I think in hindsight Yugioh is a series that became too big for its own good & that it should have probably died during the 2010s decade. Past generations never had to deal with anything like this Millennial Curse where they watch series they loved decay over the course of decades. I've seen this with Sonic, Yugioh, Pokemon, & a few other series. I've lived too long, I wasn't meant to live to age 26 was I?
A lot of things have changed for yugioh, sending players to shadow realm used to be a legal move. My friend John never came to school after that Saturday local.
You know, that sort of move is perfectly viable in Duelist Kingdom. Why? Because in the anime, if you could create a logical explanation for it, it worked. This includes, but was not limited to: - Mako using the moon to summon multiple monsters and reduce Yugi's use of the field - Yugi attacking the moon to wipe out Mako's monsters - Yugi combining his Swords of Revealing Light with Panik's Castle to keep it afloat just before having it wipe out Panik's monsters. - Pegasus using Toon World to convert his opponent's monsters into Toon monsters. - Yugi using Polymerization to add an effect to Blue Eyes Ultimate dragon to reduce its attack each turn. - Kaiba reviving the head of the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon after it was cut off.
I'm sure many others have told you this already, but I think a big reason people thought the God Cards were part of Old School Yu-Gi-Oh was because they were in the Yu-Gi-Oh video games like Nightmare Troubadour which predate their official printings by quite a bit (In the example of Nightmare Troubadour, that game was released in 2005). These games might also explain why many people thought they were banned, as the God Cards were typically listed as forbidden in said games, likely for lore reasons or for the fact that they weren't real cards at the time. Another interesting fact about the God Cards in the video games are that they also had slightly different effects in said games when you compare them to the real cards, which would explain where some people got some of those weird "just do whatever lol" effects from.
I played the shit out of that of that game, which has made me a bit confused about these cards in the past. Its weird because the effects are not totally like in the anime, it was a weird in between
@@ceresgc if I remember correctly they all had targeting protection, not just obelisk. And ra's effect was that its attack and defense were the sum of the monsters used as tributes like in the anime, and if you special summoned it you paid all your life points except for 1, which is kinda like on the anime but you cant do it anytime you want, it also sucks because since you special summoned it is destroyed in the end phase.
I loved nightmare troubadour which I still believe to be the best overall Yu-Gi-Oh game (I don't count duel links because it's years behind on cards and it's in speed duel format) (I don't count unofficial games either like duel book and ygopro2)
Konami needs to be boycotted until they can fall victim to a corporate take over. They screwed over Yugioh Fans for way too long! Konami was always the worst thing to happen to Yugioh, 4kids was a better company than Konami! Down with Konami! We shouldn't support them after what they did to the God Cards, or banning Monster Reborn or completely changing all the rules of the game with VRains! Any Classic player of Yugioh should be furious with Konami forcing Link Monsters to keep using Fusions.
On the legendary collection 1 back it prints: These cards cannot be used in TOURNAMENT play. The cards doesnt have "tournament" in the cards, because for lack of space.
dzeeff: people are confused about the god card's release dates, unofficial release dates, the wording on the card, etc reality: all of these commenters just watched the anime and thought these cards were as unstoppable as their anime counterparts
It’s funny how long it took for the god cards to be brought into the game compare to the sacred beasts which came out almost immediately after they were shat out into existence for Kazuki Takahashi’s ass hole.
Ridwan Setiadi I can imagine the exec’s coming in and going “ok so how’s your progress. It’s been about 2 months since you started,” and the team having to reply “we’re only on the second line.”
Honestly, I wish that they did make their effects absolutely bonkers like in the show. Make them so powerful that they'd be 100% tier 0, then ban them. That way they'll always be known as too powerful to be allower to be used. Kinda like how Mega Rayquaza created his own tier.
@rick melethron rick VGC is a single format. Yes, it is the only OFFICIAL format, but the game also has single battles. Mega Ray was tied for highest stats in the game and a great distribution of said stats, it had a good ability that boosted its passable bulk, it had access to multiple great moves like Dragon Dance/Ascent, and could run items while being a Mega. Primals were a better fit for VGC, granted, but Mega Ray outclassed them in singles AND could go toe to toe with them in VGC.
@rick melethron rick you are not trolling right? because if you are you are very good. the only reason that it, and i quote, "wasnt the best in the official tournament format" was, because the "official tournament format" doesnt include the one of the *two* main playstyles. that doesnt mean that one of them is irrelevant. yes, saying "it wasnt good in official tournaments", well, its not true, since it still went toe to toe with most other legendaries, but at least its true that it wasnt the undisputed king in official tournaments. but if you are talking about "the best in the game" you cant just ignore half the playstyles, just because there is no official tournament. and also, yes, smogon isnt official, but it also isnt just "random online battles". so, considering *all* playstyles it is the undisputed best mon on gen 6.
@rick melethron rick thats not how missing the timing works Think of it as this: if the summon of ra is the last thing to happen in a chain(i.e. chain link 1) then the effect will go off, if not the effect misses timing. This is generaly hard to do since normal summons dont start chains, so they will always be the last thing that happens. Armageddon knight is also a when effect, but even if you normal summon him, his effect wont fizzle if you chain whatever. Missing the timing would prevent activations as a whole not make things fizzle.
@@mateusrp1994 Not necessarily. For Slifer, you could make it unaffected, cost 3 monsters to special summon, lower monsters attack on summon or maybe banish, and have it gain 1000 or maybe more attack for each card in your hand. You can just have support that lets you search, draw, boost attack, or summon tokens.
Dzeeff: I'm not an Egyptian Gods Channel Also Dzeeff: MORE EGYPTIAN GODS! jk man love your stuff and that OG god's video was what brought me to the channel and got me back into the card game.
7:37 my brother used this to trick me with his wing dragon of ra. He said I couldn’t use my deck full of fissures on it. smh. Also you can use target cards you just have to target the floor under it. Trust me it was in the anime.
Tbh its that video that led me to your channel and subsequentially into my interest into the other yugitubers that make content. Also i remember meeting you for the first time down in detroit just a few months back. Im quite surprised how the game i grew up with has become as big as it has haha. And it was all of these videos that also eventually led me back into interest of getting back into competetive yugioh and give my kids a game we can all play together as a family as they grow older. Keep up the good work doug!
Slifer would be a powerful floodgate and wreck most combo piece monsters if getting around him wasn't as easy as SSing your monsters in defense position. That's just embarrassing.
Hey magic player here, you’re 100% right on hexproof, and how cards that say for example ‘destroy all creatures’ interact. The same confusion still happens in magic, tho to a lesser degree, probably due to cards in general having less words
Yugioh is probably the card game, maybe even game in general with the biggest difference between competitive and casual players. In few other communities will you have so many players calling some of the worst strategies overpowered.
Hey Dzeeff, been watching for almost a year now. Not part of the Yugioh community myself (only watched the original anime and don't play the game) but i really enjoy your content man.
If I remember correctly, the version of Ra that was playable in Yu-gi-oh 5Ds Stardust Accelerator actually DID use the part about its stats being equivalent to those of the monsters you sacced for it. So that might be part of the confusion on that one. Now I have to go replay Stardust Accelerator to verify my memory.
I once took a really dumb L against Chaos Max at locals about a year ago because my dumb ass didn't read Nekroz of Trishula's effect and thought it targeted.
@@EdanR Lol it's all about the wording with yugioh. It's crazy that a card that can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects can still be straight up removed from play 💀
@@Damian_702 a weakness i like to exploit very much. eater of millions does wonders to remove a lot of pesky cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects.
The reason people keep arguing about the god cards is because the ones in the anime were called "prototypes" as pegasus could not complete them in the anime.
I got my first set of god cards when I got my first YGO cards. It was Christmas of 2013 and I was 8. I was into the Duel Monsters anime and Zexal (both we’re on Netflix) but didn’t have any cards. My second sister Mary knowing I wanted to play got me Legendary Collection #1. This cane with a game board, illegal god cards, Dark Magician, Blue Eyes White Dragon, and Red Eyes Black Dragon plus a ton of old school packs (Metal Raiders, LOBE, Magic Ruler, etc...). She taught me how to play and my first deck was from those cards. I eventually went on to teach two of my best friends (both of which I am still friends with today) and I went undefeated using a Toon deck. They eventually got better and managed to eventually beat me. It’s 2020 and we all still play together and have all improved each other infinitely since those days. YGO holds a super special place in my heart and my life would be very different without it.
I agree with liking "Bad" cards. My favorite card is Number 7: Lucky Straight. It's objectively trash but I love the artwork and anime version of the card that magically grant's good luck.
A lot of these misunderstandings of card text can be solved via a specific thought experiment. If an effect lasted the entire duel, wouldn't it state that? Effects must specify their durations. If the Gods made your opponent unable to activate cards and effects after they are normal summoned, couldnt Konami have saved on ink by just writing "you win the duel" instead of the rest of the card text? Basically, you can deconstruct these thought patterns by asking questions about the wierdness that would happen if they worked the way people think they do.
I remember 3 years ago when I played against a friend (it was actually the last time I played yugioh irl...I haven't been able to since) but he put Ra in his Blue-Eyes deck. Since my deck had a stall aspect to it, he was able to summon Ra. He tried to tell me that Ra's ATK was equal to the sum of the tributed monsters' attack....I let him do it and still won...back during my scrub days when I had my 60 card water xyz deck 😂
@@CErra310 I'm fully aware of it, and I was then too. The reason I didn't run it was because it requires aqua monsters whereas the monsters in my deck were fish and sea serpent
I don't think I'd be playing Yugioh today if I didn't stumble on Why Nobody Plays The Egyptian Gods in my recommended videos. That video and this channel has pretty much completely changed my life, so I'm glad it's made it this far.
I had the misconception that you can combine ATKs / DEFs of the monsters used to summon Ra to make his ATK. It was made back at the time when we only had the knockoffs of non-official Gods.
we used to play with the anime rules for the fake god cards with 2002-2004 card lists, unlike the real ones we really did fear opponents summoning any of them. Fun times
No, shounen jump had a promo for ra. It was the artwork with takahashi's signature on it. I still have the magazine, and you can look it up on tcgplayer
In MtG, Shroud is the keyword that matches Obelisk's "can't be targeted" effect. Hexproof is, instead, "can't be targeted by spells or abilities controlled by your opponent," which everyone thought Shroud did anyway so they made Hexproof a keyword. But yeah, Shroud doesn't prevent MtG's version of Dark Hole from destroying them. This is particularly weird with the card Progenitus, which has the keyword "Protection from everything." Protection from x works as follows: they can't be blocked by, take damage from, or be targeted by any cards that meet the requirement of x. This does not prevent them from being destroyed by those cards, even though you can argue that it should.
There are effects like that, but usually restrictions on your own cards. Iirc, there was a "Draw 2 cards, you can't activate spells for the rest of combat" card
When I was young, I actually thought this because of the anime, and the first time I read they true effect I directly understand that it was only during their summoning
I never understood why they didn't give Ra the effect to gain atk equal to the monsters tributed for its normal summon. Kinda would have mitigated his effect to cut your life points to 100.
@@Weareonenation303 you are confusing 2 cards here 1 is gren maju da eiza, and the other is maju garzett. gren maju da eiza has the effect of gaining 300x your banished cards, maju garzett has the effect of it's attack becomes the combined attack of the tributes.
The God Cards are really fun if you’re doing like a character duel (Yugi vs Kaiba or Yugi or Kaiba vs Marik, etc) but I learned my lesson about taking them to any real competition a long time ago lol. Too much set up to cheese out one of the God cards just to get Dark Hole’d in a tournament and basically just lose right there lol. I mostly do play casually (we don’t have locals in my area anymore and the closest one is 2 hours away), and I do love the Egyptian Gods for the nostalgia and lore. But like Exodia, they’re fun if you’re not in a super competitive setting but if you’re actually trying to win a competition with them, you’re gonna have a bad time.
Yea, in MtG we have Hexproof which prevents targeting from any opponent's effects. We used to have Shroud which was an earlier more balanced version of Hexproof which worked exactly like Obelisk preventing targeting from any effects, even your own. There's even another super-ability called "protection from x", where something can have protection from either: a color/s, or certain spell types entirely, sometimes even a chosen player. Protection means it cannot be: Dealt damage, enchanted, blocked, or targeted by whatever source/s it has protection protection from.
Before legal printing I had an index card with the god cards effect one card for each in old days. I feel like obelisk and slider are the only ones worth making a deck around. I made a deck with obelisk and remove brainwashing and used cards like ginder golem and lava golem to get obelisk out quickly.
I think the best effect goes to obelisk. In the event that you have 5 monsters but your opponent has a better one, yell really loudly and slam the ground, add 1 obelisk the tormentor from your side deck or trading card binder to your hand.
As I stated in another video, I kinda wish god cards had never received official, playable versions. In my mind, they're supposed to be these busted creatures that you should not be able to even play, hence why I liked that they released the original versions as more of a collectors item than as playable cards. To have the cards be playable, with meh effects, and in need of support, kinda dilutes the image I have of em.
Prolly Obelisk. He has self targeting protection, a solid 4000 Atk and Def from the get go and monster removal as well. As a second pick, I'd choose Slifer, as his Atk reduction effect cam really hurt some decks. Especially some Link focused decks. Ra is only good with Sphere Mode, and Sphere Mode isn't always needed in a duel, with Super Poly and Nibiru being a thing.
Magic used to have an effect called shroud. It was like obelisk or hearthstones where neither player can target. Now there is hexproof where only the controller can target it
I play obelisk in duel links and i fastly figured out that when a card is played that has the effect to destroy monsters on the field can destroy obelisk because the effect isn't directet to obelisk directly
I wonder if Ra would be good if it had its anime effects: ATK equaling the combined ATK of its materials, cannot be targeted by and is unaffected by Spell, Trap, or Monster effects, cannot be tributed, etc. That sounds like it would be a really hard to deal with beat-stick, especially if you cheesed out three high-ATK monsters as tribute fodder.
then im willing to bet i will still be able to go over it's attack with gren maju da eiza and 20 cards in the banish, which is fairly easy since i only need 1 eater of millions and 1 pot of desires. and if i have dimensional fissure or macro cosmos it would be banished as well.
When I was a kid, I always thought that Slypher was an effect, Obelisk was a ritual, and Ra was technically a normal monster (even though I believed it had an effect) probably based on the coloration of those collectable cards.
If Egyptian Gods can have their Anime effects, then there is no reason Card of Sanctity and Card of Demise can't too. I don't think those people who want Egyptian Gods to have Anime effects would enjoy playing against all the FTKs then.
@@tails55 also we have their true effects in real life and they are illegal its just we think beacuse we are mere mortals to them and we think that they don't have effects but they actually have i saw a video of a guy playing an illegal slifer and its anime effects were shown i saw it in a youtube video
@@HolyLightofAngel those gods arnt official. They're fake god cards. The true gods are the official ones printed by konami. So technically, the anime gods arnt the true god carfs
In mtg Obelisk would have Shroud, and yes that would not stop untargeted destruction or exile (banishment in Yugioh). Not even Protection from X (where X is some quality like creatures, colors, or even everything on one card) can stop board wipes from removing the card with Protection.
back when i was a kid, doing some trailer park duels, i used the blue color obolisk as a vanillia 4k beater, that required 3 tributes, along side a single blue eyes, dark magician, and jinzo .... .... now i want to make a egyptian god (forfun) deck for when locals come back in the next few weeks
Yeah Hexproof in MTG doesn't protect against effects that hit everything, just stuff that specifically targets it (by your opponent.) Protection from X, on the other hand, would protect against effects that would hit everything on the field (so Protection against White would protect you from a White spell that destroys everything.)
i actually played an OCG deck online with the god cards + horackty that was awesome! it was pendulum gods. so you have a pendulum 1-8 combo, pendulum summon 3 monsters and normal summon obelisk turn 1 if perfect hand. i could reliably pull of an horackty win with this deck. and thats fun
Hexproof means your opponent cannot target the thing with hexproof. "Shroud" is the keyword that makes it so it can't be targeted by any player. Protection kinda works the same.
Dzeeff's got a lot of videos Discussions Tourney bios Vods Obelisk can be destroyed by spell cards You have to either pay all the life points above 100 or have a 0/0 Ra Unboxing vids
Hexproof is you opponent cannot target it and Shroud is neither player can target it. Hexproof exists simply for ease of gameplay later on. Obelisk in 2010-2011 saw play in Frog Monarch for a bit with LADD, that didn't last too long.
One time (during the 5Ds era) I was playing Yugioh with a friend, and I had summoned The Wicked Eraser (level 10 monster). Then someone who was watching the game looked at it and said, "Aren't level 10 and higher monsters illegal?" I'm pretty sure he got that idea from the Egyptian Gods.
Hieratic text for unlocking Winged Dragon of Ra when it is in sphere mode:I-Wam Wi Rezuwi Reu'Re Tekki I-Tekka Setu Ne'U Ghetti Ne'U Ne'U.(That was most accurate words which I was able to transliterate when I was listening to that today while I was watching Yugioh Anime in Japanese.)Also there is a portion of hieratic text to activate point to point transfer:E' I' Shu Reu Laww E'U Tenne Enn Ne'U Chutun E'U-I.And there is a hieratic text to activate phoenix mode:Ne'U'Cheu'I Tekk' Sai Chengztai.That was all.That was most accurate transliteration which I have tried while I was listening and I am sure it is 100% accurate.
about that normal summon protection on summon: i've seen people misunderstand that same effect text on star eater thinking it shuts off all card activations and effects for the entire game. maybe people misunderstand the god cards the exact same way. if they did work that way, they would probably be broken... but they just aren't.
I think a lot of people are also confused about the God cards supposedly being "banned" because older video games where they included them often just also had them banned. But this is during a time we didn't have legal paper copies.
Agreed but im not sure an errata would be enough. Im concerned that anyone new to the game will not know this important part of yugioh history if they didnt. The Gods were the first of their kind and such a pivotal role in the OG series. But because the playability of the cards has never been high, they are just a nostalgic set of cards everyone wished were better lol
I remembered old magazines when the illegal cards were being distributed they printed the abilities in the magazines so people could play them for fun but not go overboard.
Question: Extra deck monsters cannot be special summoned from the graveyard or banished zone unless they are first properly summoned correct? However if a property summoned extra deck monster is banished from the graveyard, it forgets that it was properly summoned. Now, on the to the main point of this question: If an extra deck monster is banished from the field, it remembers that it was properly summoned, and can be special summoned by cards such as “Magnet Reverse”. So, if a properly summoned extra deck monster that was banished from the field, and then returned to the graveyard (I guess I should ask if cards can even return to the GY from the banished zone if they were never in the GY first), does it remember that it was properly summoned? Or does it forget like if it gets banished from the graveyard?
No, when it’s banished from the gy, it resets (just like if it was bounced), but if it’s banished directly from the field it remembers, so I’m wondering if it remembers if it returned from banished to the gy if it was banished from the field
@@ernestreid5877 It doesn't forget. As long as the card remains in a place of public knowledge (face-up on the field, the GY, or face-up banished) it will remember that it was properly Summoned.
I‘d like to play a match against those people who claim the god cards were good in old school Yugioh in goat or even 2002 Yugi/Kaiba format with them trying to use those big, beefy guys and then watch how they try to justify their inevitable loss in said match.
Francesco Schettino When most people say 2002 format what they are refering to is a format in which only the two starter decks (Yugi and Kaiba) and LOB are legal so the Chaos Control deck you are talking about isn’t in the mix for what is the oldest old school format there is. In terms of goat, Yata is banned in goat. With all that said, you are forgetting, that prior to the first ban list (brought to us by the broken mess that is Chaos Control) every competitive deck was Chaos Control so I would be playing the same deck you/they were only without the added bricks that are the god cards my hypothetical opponent would have to try and build a deck around. Even with the anime effects... I‘m pretty certain one wouldn‘t even be able to summon one of them in a goat format duel against a competent opponent so they would still be a terrible deck building choice.
Van Spencer Probably not, but even with the anime effects... three tributes in a goat duel... not going to happen. No matter how broken, if you can‘t get them out, they‘re dead anyway.
I really appreciate these level-headed videos coming from a person who actually knows how to play the game. I just still don't understand why the comment section is filled with a bunch of cringey commenters.
I’m pretty sure you can use a card that makes paying life points into you gaining instead, also you could use other effects to re-increase life points after ra’s summon.
In one of the Yugioh video games (I think Sacred Cards?) Dark hole wouldn't get rid of god cards so that might be part of where the confusion comes from.
Another problem is that the video games have different effects as well. In one of them traps do not work on the god cards not dose field destruction spells.
Don't think I mentioned this before now, but I'm putting together an'Egyptian God Card' binder just for shits and giggles. Also, thinking of side decking Obelisk in one of my zombie decks (also just for shits and giggles.
Would it be out of line to say that the myth that the god cards are banned might be influenced by Team FourStar's video of Cell vs. Yami Yugi? Cell says very matter of fact "all god cards are banned."
Hex proof protects from more than just targeting effects. Hex proof protects a card from all card effects except card effects that deal damage, which is protected by indestructible.
Hexproof does not protect against non targeting effects. That's only the case with protection from something. www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/308652-hexproof
I always wonder why did Konami made the winged dragon of Ra's effect add up the total atk and def of the monsters you used to summon it for its atk and def but in the card game you have to pay LP?🤔
Even if the collector's versions of the god cards didn't have the text "this card connot be used in a duel" you could still use them not at tourneys, but in casual play. I had a friend that played them, and still friend to this day, he summoned Ra went to attack me since the card has X000 (10k atk and def I used the X as a Roman numeral). He went attack me with it I popped magic cylinder. He had nothing on his field that could counter me; but we went by anime rules where it was basically game over when any god card is on the field. We all agreed that you can't kill them with spell, trap, or monster effects. So back to me popping magic cylinder my friend says you can't do that. I'm not killing the monster I'm just redirecting it's atk (still lost it somehow, but didn't care cause duel was rigged from the beginning). All of us didn't talk to each other for about a week. Till we got into online dueling that's when I started using pendulum decks, Nekros decks, and finally odd-eyes decks.
Shadow King casual duels with friends don’t really count. You could draw a smiley face on a pice of paper, and as long as your friends are ok with it, it would be legal.
I feel like Dzeeff would be partially jobless if people weren't illiterate
Psyrhos came to comment the same thing lol
As an English major and a TH-camr, this comment is correct in more ways than one 😂
Stupid people ARE helpful then. :D
Dzeeff would have no need to do this if Konami didn't constantly screw over the Yugioh series with awful rulings. I mean seriously banning monster reborn? Turning Ra into such a complete joke? Taking away the ability to even play Fusions without Link Monsters? Imagine how great a Yugioh free of Konami's dumb decisions would be? The anime & manga wouldn't be forced to sell disappointing cards or shove new gimmicks down our throats anymore! We could see an alternate reality where Dungeon Dice Monsters replaced the Duel Monsters card game!
Konami was always the worst thing to happen to Yugioh! Konami is the reason I actually despise Yugioh these days, it's another greedy company that came & chose to royally screw over our childhoods. I think in hindsight Yugioh is a series that became too big for its own good & that it should have probably died during the 2010s decade. Past generations never had to deal with anything like this Millennial Curse where they watch series they loved decay over the course of decades. I've seen this with Sonic, Yugioh, Pokemon, & a few other series. I've lived too long, I wasn't meant to live to age 26 was I?
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I agree, at least with the DDM part. That's an interesting gimmick.
A lot of things have changed for yugioh, sending players to shadow realm used to be a legal move. My friend John never came to school after that Saturday local.
I still remember being lucky and the opponent would allow me to forfeit, but not regain my limbs. I still miss my right side.
I watched the Japanese version of the show, so I just sawed people in half or blew them up if they lost.
The shadow realm never existed. You just killed your friend.
Geno Stellar I guess I did, he screamed super loud when I declared direct attack with my blue eyes. Should have played with more life points
@@tonglai7499 Nah. It's his own fault. He didn't believe in the heart of the cards.
What if I don't target Obelisk...but the ground it walks on!!
LubricatedSword lol
Not gonna lie, would be a cool way to go around "can't be affected by card effects" clause
that comment is golden! Kkkkkkk
You know, that sort of move is perfectly viable in Duelist Kingdom. Why? Because in the anime, if you could create a logical explanation for it, it worked. This includes, but was not limited to:
- Mako using the moon to summon multiple monsters and reduce Yugi's use of the field
- Yugi attacking the moon to wipe out Mako's monsters
- Yugi combining his Swords of Revealing Light with Panik's Castle to keep it afloat just before having it wipe out Panik's monsters.
- Pegasus using Toon World to convert his opponent's monsters into Toon monsters.
- Yugi using Polymerization to add an effect to Blue Eyes Ultimate dragon to reduce its attack each turn.
- Kaiba reviving the head of the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon after it was cut off.
Guys, this isn't a joke, Yugi literally does that in the final duel
I'm sure many others have told you this already, but I think a big reason people thought the God Cards were part of Old School Yu-Gi-Oh was because they were in the Yu-Gi-Oh video games like Nightmare Troubadour which predate their official printings by quite a bit (In the example of Nightmare Troubadour, that game was released in 2005).
These games might also explain why many people thought they were banned, as the God Cards were typically listed as forbidden in said games, likely for lore reasons or for the fact that they weren't real cards at the time.
Another interesting fact about the God Cards in the video games are that they also had slightly different effects in said games when you compare them to the real cards, which would explain where some people got some of those weird "just do whatever lol" effects from.
Just do whatever comes from the anime, ras effect text is in Egyptian which only marik can read so he brings up random effects
I played the shit out of that of that game, which has made me a bit confused about these cards in the past. Its weird because the effects are not totally like in the anime, it was a weird in between
PK Flesh I'm interested. What effects did they have?
@@ceresgc if I remember correctly they all had targeting protection, not just obelisk. And ra's effect was that its attack and defense were the sum of the monsters used as tributes like in the anime, and if you special summoned it you paid all your life points except for 1, which is kinda like on the anime but you cant do it anytime you want, it also sucks because since you special summoned it is destroyed in the end phase.
I loved nightmare troubadour which I still believe to be the best overall Yu-Gi-Oh game
(I don't count duel links because it's years behind on cards and it's in speed duel format)
(I don't count unofficial games either like duel book and ygopro2)
Konami prints :"This card cannot be used in a Duel" on the cards.
Commenters: "They were so good in old school yugioh"
People are so blind SMH
Konami needs to be boycotted until they can fall victim to a corporate take over. They screwed over Yugioh Fans for way too long! Konami was always the worst thing to happen to Yugioh, 4kids was a better company than Konami! Down with Konami! We shouldn't support them after what they did to the God Cards, or banning Monster Reborn or completely changing all the rules of the game with VRains! Any Classic player of Yugioh should be furious with Konami forcing Link Monsters to keep using Fusions.
@@WaterKirby1994 Regarding link, a lot of the community was upset when it was announced. But right now link ain't needed anymore
@ari ademola Not true. Pendulums still have limitations.
On the legendary collection 1 back it prints: These cards cannot be used in TOURNAMENT play. The cards doesnt have "tournament" in the cards, because for lack of space.
dzeeff: people are confused about the god card's release dates, unofficial release dates, the wording on the card, etc
reality: all of these commenters just watched the anime and thought these cards were as unstoppable as their anime counterparts
I still can't believe how long it took for the legal versions of the god cards to be imported into the TCG!
Ram Singh right 10 years later lol
Same with Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon it took so long to be released.
Blue Eyes Shining Dragon came out first lol
It’s funny how long it took for the god cards to be brought into the game compare to the sacred beasts which came out almost immediately after they were shat out into existence for Kazuki Takahashi’s ass hole.
Because Konami had to hire dozens of researcher to decipher Ra's text.
Ridwan Setiadi I can imagine the exec’s coming in and going “ok so how’s your progress. It’s been about 2 months since you started,” and the team having to reply “we’re only on the second line.”
Every time doug has to explain the effect of Rah, he loses a year of his life.
It would take him an entire year to explain the anime Ra's effect
Until he only has 100 days left.
He literaly loses Life Points IRL
That's the real hidden effect.
Myth #6: You can't use "De-Fusion" to get all your LPs back if you decide to pay all but 100 for Ra's Attack.
yugioh gx XD
Where was this in gx? Lmfao
Pssh. I used that on my winning combo in 2005.
@@cesaresp101 it was in GX Season 2 during the Genex arc (the guy with the fake Ra)
@@Ray_SB it was also in dm
Honestly, I wish that they did make their effects absolutely bonkers like in the show. Make them so powerful that they'd be 100% tier 0, then ban them. That way they'll always be known as too powerful to be allower to be used. Kinda like how Mega Rayquaza created his own tier.
@rick melethron rick Mega Ray was still the objectively best Pokémon in Gen 6
@rick melethron rick VGC is a single format. Yes, it is the only OFFICIAL format, but the game also has single battles. Mega Ray was tied for highest stats in the game and a great distribution of said stats, it had a good ability that boosted its passable bulk, it had access to multiple great moves like Dragon Dance/Ascent, and could run items while being a Mega.
Primals were a better fit for VGC, granted, but Mega Ray outclassed them in singles AND could go toe to toe with them in VGC.
@rick melethron rick I wasn't saying it was an official format you wet sock, I was saying MR was the best mon overall in Gen 6.
This is ygo, Not pokemon You fools
@rick melethron rick
you are not trolling right? because if you are you are very good.
the only reason that it, and i quote, "wasnt the best in the official tournament format" was, because the "official tournament format" doesnt include the one of the *two* main playstyles. that doesnt mean that one of them is irrelevant. yes, saying "it wasnt good in official tournaments", well, its not true, since it still went toe to toe with most other legendaries, but at least its true that it wasnt the undisputed king in official tournaments.
but if you are talking about "the best in the game" you cant just ignore half the playstyles, just because there is no official tournament. and also, yes, smogon isnt official, but it also isnt just "random online battles".
so, considering *all* playstyles it is the undisputed best mon on gen 6.
The biggest myth is about them is that people assume they are monsters. This is not true. They are gods!
You mean you can say: draw goddo cardo
"Monsutaa de wa nai ! Kami da !"
-Kaiba
🤣
"He's no monster. He's a God"-Kaiba
Hoang Minh Le “but you’re monster can’t use its special abilities!” -Aigami
“It’s no monster....it’s a god!” -Kaiba
They are still considered as "effect monsters"
Can you imagine if Dark Hole said "Target all monsters on the field; destroy them."
Black Hole does however!
Yeah that's a joke
😂
What’s even funnier is ra’s attack gain effect can miss timing.
Who would win?
An immortal diety that represents the sun and creation
Or
A chain
@@matty9460 if this also a reference to the use of chains in yugioh gx when the field spell "mound of the bound creator" was used, this is big brain
gee i wont be able to activate ra s effect if i summon him with arrival rivals activated as cl2 or higher... how barely relevant
rick melethron rick lol only for the summon
@rick melethron rick thats not how missing the timing works
Think of it as this: if the summon of ra is the last thing to happen in a chain(i.e. chain link 1) then the effect will go off, if not the effect misses timing. This is generaly hard to do since normal summons dont start chains, so they will always be the last thing that happens. Armageddon knight is also a when effect, but even if you normal summon him, his effect wont fizzle if you chain whatever. Missing the timing would prevent activations as a whole not make things fizzle.
Here's a celebration video idea: Dzeeff making competitive retrains of the god cards while paying homage to the original anime effects.
The hardest part is making such an effect text fit into a real card.
@@mateusrp1994 Not necessarily. For Slifer, you could make it unaffected, cost 3 monsters to special summon, lower monsters attack on summon or maybe banish, and have it gain 1000 or maybe more attack for each card in your hand. You can just have support that lets you search, draw, boost attack, or summon tokens.
Judai Uchiha He was probably taking about ra and it’s ridiculous amount of effects. Seriously, it would make a pendulum player blush
Sad that sacred beasts will be "viable" before the Egyptian gods
The Beasts are better though
@@pablomadrid6962 blasphemy. BLASPHEMY!! BURN HIM!!!!!
@@skullservant8486 Burn him with Uria: Lord of Searing Flames.
It’s cuz everytime there is some poll to get support everyone always votes for gx shit sadly. Maybe one day the og gods will be atleast playable.
@@FortressWhale GX stuff probably wins because it was the rise of proper archetypes.
Dzeeff: I'm not an Egyptian Gods Channel
Also Dzeeff: MORE EGYPTIAN GODS!
jk man love your stuff and that OG god's video was what brought me to the channel and got me back into the card game.
7:37 my brother used this to trick me with his wing dragon of ra. He said I couldn’t use my deck full of fissures on it. smh. Also you can use target cards you just have to target the floor under it. Trust me it was in the anime.
New vid idea “10 bad Yu-Gi-Oh cards that Dzeef likes”
i second this
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There is a difference between "must" (you have to) and "can" (optional). Players needs to know these key words.
You can hear the frustration in dzeeff's voice at having to re-explain the same points for a third (fourth?) time
Tbh its that video that led me to your channel and subsequentially into my interest into the other yugitubers that make content. Also i remember meeting you for the first time down in detroit just a few months back. Im quite surprised how the game i grew up with has become as big as it has haha. And it was all of these videos that also eventually led me back into interest of getting back into competetive yugioh and give my kids a game we can all play together as a family as they grow older. Keep up the good work doug!
The biggest myth about the egyptian gods is that they're actually good
They might become good. If the get proper support.
Slifer would be a powerful floodgate and wreck most combo piece monsters if getting around him wasn't as easy as SSing your monsters in defense position. That's just embarrassing.
@ULGROTHA If the gods had modern support it would be possible to mitigate those problems, but as they are right now you're right.
@ULGROTHA but rah had some BS effects in the anime.
@ULGROTHA idk
Hey magic player here, you’re 100% right on hexproof, and how cards that say for example ‘destroy all creatures’ interact. The same confusion still happens in magic, tho to a lesser degree, probably due to cards in general having less words
It’s amazing how powerful the Mandela effect is. Players really thought they played with the god cards years before they were ever released lol
Yugioh is probably the card game, maybe even game in general with the biggest difference between competitive and casual players. In few other communities will you have so many players calling some of the worst strategies overpowered.
1 truth about the Egyptian God Cards is that none of them stand a chance against my Man Eater Bug beatdown deck.
Make no mistake, I am the best duelist.
I summon Man Eater Bug in attack position.
Obelisk laughs in corner
Myth 6, the Egyptian gods see more competitive play than Jerry Beans Man
Jerry Beans Man had its moments of usefulness lol.
XxMeme MemexX I hate that you’re probably right.
XxMeme MemexX I hate that you’re probably right.
Hey Dzeeff, been watching for almost a year now. Not part of the Yugioh community myself (only watched the original anime and don't play the game) but i really enjoy your content man.
It's good to know I wasn't the only kid who tried to send my friends to the shadow realm
The Egyptian Gods dismembered and imprisoned Exodia. 👽
And his power is MAXIMUM!
Pretty sure that was Zorc my duderino
@@alonsoarana5307 no he was MAXIMUMER! (TFS reference)
“5 examples of people not being able to read”
If I remember correctly, the version of Ra that was playable in Yu-gi-oh 5Ds Stardust Accelerator actually DID use the part about its stats being equivalent to those of the monsters you sacced for it. So that might be part of the confusion on that one.
Now I have to go replay Stardust Accelerator to verify my memory.
The god cards in the games didn't have the actual effects so yeah
When you brought up dark hole and targeting, it reminded me of the time someone left a duel because they thought it could get rid of BE Chaos Max.
I once took a really dumb L against Chaos Max at locals about a year ago because my dumb ass didn't read Nekroz of Trishula's effect and thought it targeted.
@@EdanR Lol it's all about the wording with yugioh. It's crazy that a card that can't be targeted or destroyed by card effects can still be straight up removed from play 💀
@@Damian_702 a weakness i like to exploit very much.
eater of millions does wonders to remove a lot of pesky cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects.
commenters: "but i remembered yugi doing that when i was a kid"
It really is straight forward. I’m surprised that some people really don’t get this. But then again, some people think MST negates, sooo. Lmao
When it reaches 2 million build a god card deck and play it on stream
The reason people keep arguing about the god cards is because the ones in the anime were called "prototypes" as pegasus could not complete them in the anime.
I got my first set of god cards when I got my first YGO cards. It was Christmas of 2013 and I was 8. I was into the Duel Monsters anime and Zexal (both we’re on Netflix) but didn’t have any cards. My second sister Mary knowing I wanted to play got me Legendary Collection #1. This cane with a game board, illegal god cards, Dark Magician, Blue Eyes White Dragon, and Red Eyes Black Dragon plus a ton of old school packs (Metal Raiders, LOBE, Magic Ruler, etc...). She taught me how to play and my first deck was from those cards. I eventually went on to teach two of my best friends (both of which I am still friends with today) and I went undefeated using a Toon deck. They eventually got better and managed to eventually beat me. It’s 2020 and we all still play together and have all improved each other infinitely since those days. YGO holds a super special place in my heart and my life would be very different without it.
I agree with liking "Bad" cards. My favorite card is Number 7: Lucky Straight. It's objectively trash but I love the artwork and anime version of the card that magically grant's good luck.
A lot of these misunderstandings of card text can be solved via a specific thought experiment. If an effect lasted the entire duel, wouldn't it state that? Effects must specify their durations. If the Gods made your opponent unable to activate cards and effects after they are normal summoned, couldnt Konami have saved on ink by just writing "you win the duel" instead of the rest of the card text?
Basically, you can deconstruct these thought patterns by asking questions about the wierdness that would happen if they worked the way people think they do.
Bottom line: Reading and comprehension skills are fundamental, even when it pertains to being nerdy...
I remember 3 years ago when I played against a friend (it was actually the last time I played yugioh irl...I haven't been able to since) but he put Ra in his Blue-Eyes deck. Since my deck had a stall aspect to it, he was able to summon Ra. He tried to tell me that Ra's ATK was equal to the sum of the tributed monsters' attack....I let him do it and still won...back during my scrub days when I had my 60 card water xyz deck 😂
go check out a card named Toadally Awesome. you might wanna get back into that water xyz deck lol
@@CErra310 I'm fully aware of it, and I was then too. The reason I didn't run it was because it requires aqua monsters whereas the monsters in my deck were fish and sea serpent
"Yugitubers don't watch the anime series" as an spin-off of "Commenters don't understand..."
I love your Egiptian God Channel dude, very cool
I don't think I'd be playing Yugioh today if I didn't stumble on Why Nobody Plays The Egyptian Gods in my recommended videos. That video and this channel has pretty much completely changed my life, so I'm glad it's made it this far.
People just like to make things up rather than admit that they have a bad memory or don't understand the game.
Its sad
I had the misconception that you can combine ATKs / DEFs of the monsters used to summon Ra to make his ATK. It was made back at the time when we only had the knockoffs of non-official Gods.
we used to play with the anime rules for the fake god cards with 2002-2004 card lists, unlike the real ones we really did fear opponents summoning any of them. Fun times
Actually, only Slifer and Obelisk were printed in magazines. Ra was a promo in an obscure Xbox game called Dawn of Destiny.
No, shounen jump had a promo for ra. It was the artwork with takahashi's signature on it. I still have the magazine, and you can look it up on tcgplayer
"Nobody Understands why I Play Altergeists." coming up next.
Solemn Judgement: 3
Solemn Strike: 3
Red reboot: 1
In MtG, Shroud is the keyword that matches Obelisk's "can't be targeted" effect. Hexproof is, instead, "can't be targeted by spells or abilities controlled by your opponent," which everyone thought Shroud did anyway so they made Hexproof a keyword. But yeah, Shroud doesn't prevent MtG's version of Dark Hole from destroying them. This is particularly weird with the card Progenitus, which has the keyword "Protection from everything." Protection from x works as follows: they can't be blocked by, take damage from, or be targeted by any cards that meet the requirement of x. This does not prevent them from being destroyed by those cards, even though you can argue that it should.
I could understand someone thinking you can activate cards until the end of the turn, but the DUEL wtf lol.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaah
There are effects like that, but usually restrictions on your own cards. Iirc, there was a "Draw 2 cards, you can't activate spells for the rest of combat" card
When I was young, I actually thought this because of the anime, and the first time I read they true effect I directly understand that it was only during their summoning
That would be way too op
I use Obelisk The Tormentor and tbh he is pretty fun to use and is quite powerful
People are thinking of Slifer the Executive Producer, Obelisk, and Ultra Mega Chicken not the god cards.
Indeed lol
I don’t understand why they’re called that!
I never understood why they didn't give Ra the effect to gain atk equal to the monsters tributed for its normal summon. Kinda would have mitigated his effect to cut your life points to 100.
@@Weareonenation303 you are confusing 2 cards here 1 is gren maju da eiza, and the other is maju garzett.
gren maju da eiza has the effect of gaining 300x your banished cards, maju garzett has the effect of it's attack becomes the combined attack of the tributes.
Damn people get so easily triggered. OK then I will say it so everyone can understand...... THE EGYPTIAN GOD CARDS ARE ABSOLUTE TRASH!!!
The God Cards are really fun if you’re doing like a character duel (Yugi vs Kaiba or Yugi or Kaiba vs Marik, etc) but I learned my lesson about taking them to any real competition a long time ago lol. Too much set up to cheese out one of the God cards just to get Dark Hole’d in a tournament and basically just lose right there lol.
I mostly do play casually (we don’t have locals in my area anymore and the closest one is 2 hours away), and I do love the Egyptian Gods for the nostalgia and lore. But like Exodia, they’re fun if you’re not in a super competitive setting but if you’re actually trying to win a competition with them, you’re gonna have a bad time.
Yea, in MtG we have Hexproof which prevents targeting from any opponent's effects. We used to have Shroud which was an earlier more balanced version of Hexproof which worked exactly like Obelisk preventing targeting from any effects, even your own.
There's even another super-ability called "protection from x", where something can have protection from either: a color/s, or certain spell types entirely, sometimes even a chosen player. Protection means it cannot be: Dealt damage, enchanted, blocked, or targeted by whatever source/s it has protection protection from.
Before legal printing I had an index card with the god cards effect one card for each in old days. I feel like obelisk and slider are the only ones worth making a deck around. I made a deck with obelisk and remove brainwashing and used cards like ginder golem and lava golem to get obelisk out quickly.
I think the best effect goes to obelisk. In the event that you have 5 monsters but your opponent has a better one, yell really loudly and slam the ground, add 1 obelisk the tormentor from your side deck or trading card binder to your hand.
dzeeff: “Commenters don’t understand collector’s items”
As I stated in another video, I kinda wish god cards had never received official, playable versions. In my mind, they're supposed to be these busted creatures that you should not be able to even play, hence why I liked that they released the original versions as more of a collectors item than as playable cards. To have the cards be playable, with meh effects, and in need of support, kinda dilutes the image I have of em.
In today's format: Which God card do you think would be the best boss monster (if you had to add one of them in a deck)?
Prolly Obelisk. He has self targeting protection, a solid 4000 Atk and Def from the get go and monster removal as well. As a second pick, I'd choose Slifer, as his Atk reduction effect cam really hurt some decks. Especially some Link focused decks. Ra is only good with Sphere Mode, and Sphere Mode isn't always needed in a duel, with Super Poly and Nibiru being a thing.
Slifer. His floodgate ATK reduction shits on lots of decks.
By far Slifer, Link spam decks pretty much auto-lose if you can put Slifer on the board going first
Magic used to have an effect called shroud. It was like obelisk or hearthstones where neither player can target. Now there is hexproof where only the controller can target it
I play obelisk in duel links and i fastly figured out that when a card is played that has the effect to destroy monsters on the field can destroy obelisk because the effect isn't directet to obelisk directly
I wonder if Ra would be good if it had its anime effects: ATK equaling the combined ATK of its materials, cannot be targeted by and is unaffected by Spell, Trap, or Monster effects, cannot be tributed, etc. That sounds like it would be a really hard to deal with beat-stick, especially if you cheesed out three high-ATK monsters as tribute fodder.
then im willing to bet i will still be able to go over it's attack with gren maju da eiza and 20 cards in the banish, which is fairly easy since i only need 1 eater of millions and 1 pot of desires. and if i have dimensional fissure or macro cosmos it would be banished as well.
When I was a kid, I always thought that Slypher was an effect, Obelisk was a ritual, and Ra was technically a normal monster (even though I believed it had an effect) probably based on the coloration of those collectable cards.
The biggest myth about the egyptian gods is their anime effect is their true effect
The copies we have in real life are not the original ones.
If Egyptian Gods can have their Anime effects, then there is no reason Card of Sanctity and Card of Demise can't too. I don't think those people who want Egyptian Gods to have Anime effects would enjoy playing against all the FTKs then.
@@tails55 also we have their true effects in real life and they are illegal its just we think beacuse we are mere mortals to them and we think that they don't have effects but they actually have i saw a video of a guy playing an illegal slifer and its anime effects were shown i saw it in a youtube video
@@HolyLightofAngel those gods arnt official. They're fake god cards. The true gods are the official ones printed by konami. So technically, the anime gods arnt the true god carfs
In mtg Obelisk would have Shroud, and yes that would not stop untargeted destruction or exile (banishment in Yugioh). Not even Protection from X (where X is some quality like creatures, colors, or even everything on one card) can stop board wipes from removing the card with Protection.
Just curious, who is your favorite Egyptian God aesthetically, and why?
back when i was a kid, doing some trailer park duels,
i used the blue color obolisk as a vanillia 4k beater, that required 3 tributes, along side a single blue eyes, dark magician, and jinzo
....
....
now i want to make a egyptian god (forfun) deck for when locals come back in the next few weeks
Yeah Hexproof in MTG doesn't protect against effects that hit everything, just stuff that specifically targets it (by your opponent.)
Protection from X, on the other hand, would protect against effects that would hit everything on the field (so Protection against White would protect you from a White spell that destroys everything.)
Also another myth is, Rah gains attack equal to the tributes attack
i actually played an OCG deck online with the god cards + horackty that was awesome!
it was pendulum gods. so you have a pendulum 1-8 combo, pendulum summon 3 monsters and normal summon obelisk turn 1 if perfect hand.
i could reliably pull of an horackty win with this deck. and thats fun
people in 2020 not realizing obelisk can be destroyed with Fissure
Hexproof means your opponent cannot target the thing with hexproof. "Shroud" is the keyword that makes it so it can't be targeted by any player. Protection kinda works the same.
Dzeeff's got a lot of videos
Discussions
Tourney bios
Vods
Obelisk can be destroyed by spell cards
You have to either pay all the life points above 100 or have a 0/0 Ra
Unboxing vids
Hexproof is you opponent cannot target it and Shroud is neither player can target it. Hexproof exists simply for ease of gameplay later on. Obelisk in 2010-2011 saw play in Frog Monarch for a bit with LADD, that didn't last too long.
But we wanted you to make fun of the comments, not to repeat the same stuff again. At least that's why I put yes on that survey
12:22 I think the video had a stroke from having to hear him explain this ruling so many times over to commenters.
One time (during the 5Ds era) I was playing Yugioh with a friend, and I had summoned The Wicked Eraser (level 10 monster). Then someone who was watching the game looked at it and said, "Aren't level 10 and higher monsters illegal?" I'm pretty sure he got that idea from the Egyptian Gods.
Hieratic text for unlocking Winged Dragon of Ra when it is in sphere mode:I-Wam Wi Rezuwi Reu'Re Tekki I-Tekka Setu Ne'U Ghetti Ne'U Ne'U.(That was most accurate words which I was able to transliterate when I was listening to that today while I was watching Yugioh Anime in Japanese.)Also there is a portion of hieratic text to activate point to point transfer:E' I' Shu Reu Laww E'U Tenne Enn Ne'U Chutun E'U-I.And there is a hieratic text to activate phoenix mode:Ne'U'Cheu'I Tekk' Sai Chengztai.That was all.That was most accurate transliteration which I have tried while I was listening and I am sure it is 100% accurate.
about that normal summon protection on summon:
i've seen people misunderstand that same effect text on star eater thinking it shuts off all card activations and effects for the entire game.
maybe people misunderstand the god cards the exact same way.
if they did work that way, they would probably be broken... but they just aren't.
I think a lot of people are also confused about the God cards supposedly being "banned" because older video games where they included them often just also had them banned. But this is during a time we didn't have legal paper copies.
my friend actually got an original art work version of it in the old days, maybe it was a collectible but he got it from a booster pack.
Fake
Doubt Konami will errata the god cards, but they damn sure can make some broken support to make em viable.
Go on Konami, dew it
Ra is getting an errata in duelist of gloom
Agreed but im not sure an errata would be enough. Im concerned that anyone new to the game will not know this important part of yugioh history if they didnt. The Gods were the first of their kind and such a pivotal role in the OG series. But because the playability of the cards has never been high, they are just a nostalgic set of cards everyone wished were better lol
I remembered old magazines when the illegal cards were being distributed they printed the abilities in the magazines so people could play them for fun but not go overboard.
Question:
Extra deck monsters cannot be special summoned from the graveyard or banished zone unless they are first properly summoned correct? However if a property summoned extra deck monster is banished from the graveyard, it forgets that it was properly summoned. Now, on the to the main point of this question: If an extra deck monster is banished from the field, it remembers that it was properly summoned, and can be special summoned by cards such as “Magnet Reverse”. So, if a properly summoned extra deck monster that was banished from the field, and then returned to the graveyard (I guess I should ask if cards can even return to the GY from the banished zone if they were never in the GY first), does it remember that it was properly summoned? Or does it forget like if it gets banished from the graveyard?
AFAIK When a card with the effect "must first be (...)-summoned" is properly summoned once it can be brought back under any circumstance
No, when it’s banished from the gy, it resets (just like if it was bounced), but if it’s banished directly from the field it remembers, so I’m wondering if it remembers if it returned from banished to the gy if it was banished from the field
@@ernestreid5877 It doesn't forget. As long as the card remains in a place of public knowledge (face-up on the field, the GY, or face-up banished) it will remember that it was properly Summoned.
I‘d like to play a match against those people who claim the god cards were good in old school Yugioh in goat or even 2002 Yugi/Kaiba format with them trying to use those big, beefy guys and then watch how they try to justify their inevitable loss in said match.
Michael Herbstmann pretty sure they didnt even have playable versions anyway
We can play but all cards allowed
I would make you quit with my yata jar deck
Made 100s of opponents rage back 16 17 years ago lol
Francesco Schettino
When most people say 2002 format what they are refering to is a format in which only the two starter decks (Yugi and Kaiba) and LOB are legal so the Chaos Control deck you are talking about isn’t in the mix for what is the oldest old school format there is. In terms of goat, Yata is banned in goat.
With all that said, you are forgetting, that prior to the first ban list (brought to us by the broken mess that is Chaos Control) every competitive deck was Chaos Control so I would be playing the same deck you/they were only without the added bricks that are the god cards my hypothetical opponent would have to try and build a deck around.
Even with the anime effects... I‘m pretty certain one wouldn‘t even be able to summon one of them in a goat format duel against a competent opponent so they would still be a terrible deck building choice.
Van Spencer
Probably not, but even with the anime effects... three tributes in a goat duel... not going to happen. No matter how broken, if you can‘t get them out, they‘re dead anyway.
@@Herbstmann I had a modified 60 card deck. You would have loved to see it trust me.
I really appreciate these level-headed videos coming from a person who actually knows how to play the game. I just still don't understand why the comment section is filled with a bunch of cringey commenters.
9:42 I just now noticed a :P smiley in the white orb-thingy in the Dark Hole art. anyone else ?
I’m pretty sure you can use a card that makes paying life points into you gaining instead, also you could use other effects to re-increase life points after ra’s summon.
The thing is, not only is that the least of Ra's problems, it would also be pretty useless nonetheless.
In the yu gi oh videogame I have slifer starts with 4000 in each stat and increases by 1500 rather than 1000 per card in hand
In one of the Yugioh video games (I think Sacred Cards?) Dark hole wouldn't get rid of god cards so that might be part of where the confusion comes from.
Another problem is that the video games have different effects as well. In one of them traps do not work on the god cards not dose field destruction spells.
Don't think I mentioned this before now, but I'm putting together an'Egyptian God Card' binder just for shits and giggles. Also, thinking of side decking Obelisk in one of my zombie decks (also just for shits and giggles.
Would it be out of line to say that the myth that the god cards are banned might be influenced by Team FourStar's video of Cell vs. Yami Yugi? Cell says very matter of fact "all god cards are banned."
Only because this issue persisted long before that video was made.
Hex proof protects from more than just targeting effects. Hex proof protects a card from all card effects except card effects that deal damage, which is protected by indestructible.
Hexproof does not protect against non targeting effects. That's only the case with protection from something. www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/308652-hexproof
I always wonder why did Konami made the winged dragon of Ra's effect add up the total atk and def of the monsters you used to summon it for its atk and def but in the card game you have to pay LP?🤔
Even if the collector's versions of the god cards didn't have the text "this card connot be used in a duel" you could still use them not at tourneys, but in casual play.
I had a friend that played them, and still friend to this day, he summoned Ra went to attack me since the card has X000 (10k atk and def I used the X as a Roman numeral). He went attack me with it I popped magic cylinder. He had nothing on his field that could counter me; but we went by anime rules where it was basically game over when any god card is on the field. We all agreed that you can't kill them with spell, trap, or monster effects. So back to me popping magic cylinder my friend says you can't do that.
I'm not killing the monster I'm just redirecting it's atk (still lost it somehow, but didn't care cause duel was rigged from the beginning). All of us didn't talk to each other for about a week. Till we got into online dueling that's when I started using pendulum decks, Nekros decks, and finally odd-eyes decks.
Shadow King casual duels with friends don’t really count. You could draw a smiley face on a pice of paper, and as long as your friends are ok with it, it would be legal.