Chris is on his out as far as youtube is concerned and I just don't think there is anything he can do to stop it. Part of the reseller youtube space is selling the fantasy life to your viewers and there just aren't that many people whose fantasy life is a high labor whatnot clothing selling business that can't even be copied anywhere outside of high income areas of the country. His views are way down and all tech's content has been pulled from the channel. I wouldn't be surprised if Chris popped back up as an investment channel in a year or two.
I totally agree with you about Tech. I've learned so much from him. His course is for all sellers. Not just clothing. Deep dives on many catagories. Tech works more then anyother reseller as far as I can tell. This video here is not factual at all about Tech.
I've watched Chris on Daily Refinment since he was 10k on the Bay. He was taking photos, Packing and shipping from his little apartment on the floor. The best thing he offers is setting up a system to streamline your process and becoming super efficient. Everything else is to be filtered for your own specific case.
I went from 33k to 62k for my 90 day listening to mostly tech and he really changed my mindset on how to view my business and to be willing to accept offers. If you seen his old insta post, he was picking up monster clothing items before changing his business model to the low profit, high volume approach, which at some point everyone will have to do if you want to scale to his level and make more money. He even says that the stuff they bring in he would not personally pick up himself, but you cant make more money if your store size stays the same. I think there general advice applies for the most part, niche down, create a inventory system, and education.
You are right about the mentor group - if you're new to reselling and you don't want to have to sift through the web for your answers, but instead have a group to lean on, it's a great place. When I was a member of the group, I was essentially paying to coach and guide other new resellers. I didn't gain anything from the few months I was in the group, but I did leave something behind to help new resellers in the form of a video guide on photography. I still sub the podcasts and they're mostly great. Those two have helped me more than any other resellers. Their very early podcasts are inspirational and motivational.
As a former member of their group and a 10 year veteran of ebay this is my opinion: People give them too much credit. Tech isn't an eBay god and Chris isn't a guru. I do appreciate them offering a group where resellers can get together and discuss their businesses but the price is way too high (imo). People are better off learning through trial and error or sifting through free YT videos and groups to gain knowledge. I have to get this off my chest about Tech: He is the best at one thing and that is his work ethic and hustle. He will outwork every single person to be the top dog. Saying that NO ONE should follow his model if they want to be a successful pre-owned clothing reseller. His listings are absolutely terrible and it really gets under my skin. They talk about perfect titles but his are absolutely terrible. He refused to learn or teach his employees vital keywords to sell his items. Also when they talk about the $8 - $30 model I have to cringe because Tech's store is filled with under $10 stained junk. It's the "sell anything, list it as fast as possible and promote it high to move them". This is why his sell through isn't impressive because of his titles and the lower quality of his items. I admire his work ethic because working 20 hour days 7 days a week will kill most people. Other than that his store is lower tier and I can't respect that. Chris talks a good game and I do like listening to him but after he was banned on eBay I just can't take his advice about the platform. It's like me trying to lose weight by taking advice from a person who weighs 500 pounds. I do respect him pivoting from eBay to What Not because he does kill it on there. He has a great business mind with his multiple revenue streams from the FB group to What Not to Wholesaling to whatever else he has going on. So in short I do respect their business minds but there are far better ways to run your eBay business from their actions
Thanks for your honesty. I don't understand how more people didn't call him out for selling high end shoes that got him banned...yet every week saying he was making millions off of mall brands...even Technsports should have felt betrayed because he was lying & betraying everyone including his business partner. At the end of the day basic math tells me they are also making a killing off memberships & etc just like Ralli Roots & other reselling gurus❤
@@TJ-yv3kp To be fair people did call Chris out when it happened. It still happens in the comment sections from what I see. Tech was disappointed in him but there's too much money to be left on the table to close the group because of Chris' actions. It makes way too much money
@@mikec3949 Oh to be clear I know SOME did & Tech chose $ because it's business. I'm saying Chris's greed made everything lose credibility. If you cheat...you will steal and you will lie. #truth
I have been an eBay Seller for 19 years (mostly casual). In 2022, I needed to supplement Social (in)Security. I discovered Chris & Tech and have benefited greatly from their channels. I don't subscribe to their patreon. I am an everything Seller, which they don't recommend. I am old, so I have a lot of general knowledge about a variety of items and I love to attend auctions. I hate BINS shopping, and I live in rural southern Ohio, so I don't live near any major shopping districts. I do what works for me. I enjoy my life and eBay is extremely gratifying. The money is getting better all the time! Your video is great and I'll keep viewing. Thanks!!!
Thanks so much. I am also an everything seller, I am only 45, but I am disabled (right leg amputee) so I share a lot of the challenges that older sellers face.
Just in case someone didn't already mention it. 2 most easily recognized Steely Dan songs are "Reelin in the Years," and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number." :)
Thanks for being so real and down to Earth. I've watched Daily Refinement in the past, but haven't done so in a long time, just didn't find what he does relevant to how I run my business. Not that it doesn't work for him, I'm sure he is very successful, I just find I do better with my own model. I do watch other resellers channels for tidbits of knowledge. I'm happy TH-cam recommended you in the algorithm. Great video! Best of luck to you!
Thank you for this video. Your criticisms are very constructive. And being skeptical when watching these videos is a must. Once a newbie starts adding 2 and 2 together and starts building their own experience, I assume they move on. I would love to see his churn rate on his groups/courses etc. I assume it is high. Which means you must always be finding new “buyers” and eventually the tap runs dry.
Same thing happened to me with a $1200 coin. The bird said it was not in the package. He contacted his credit card company and Ebay favored him. Now they have my money a hole for the second case same amount same buyer same order
I agree, their podcast is one of the best. I've listened to some multiple times. As far as the group calls, a waste of my time only because it seems there is way too much time sharing cute analogies between things that have nothing to do with reselling.
I really wanted to make the whole video really be about Technsports but I couldn't really leave Chris out since Tech's entire social media is linked to Chris.
Most people tune in to daily Refinement just to here Tech, daily Refinement success is inflated because of his you tube popularity, but Tech got his sales the harder way.
My location, rural Alabama, really forces me to be an "everything" seller. Clothes in these parts are pretty much what you find at Walmart; only used. Selling a little bit of everything really goes against the teachings of Chris and Technsports. So yes, I do have to spend more time researching and more time shipping items but it is not boring and it can be done for a $100 net profit per day business model. I know that is not for everyone. But the advantage that I have is the cost of living is pretty low here and my work week can be between 20 - 30 hours including sourcing. So yes, $30 an hour is in reach and often surpassed. There was a reason I left a high pressured job for this.
I am in a now paid off house in Missouri and it doesn't even seem to matter how much money I make anymore. Everything gets paid and the bank balance goes up every month.
This was 100% accurate. When I first started watched Chris I wasn’t selling clothes and made around 50k. I have now been a six figure eBay seller for going on 3 years. If your starting out it’s the best content around. But at this level it basically comes down to hiring help and expanding if you choose. Chris is no longer eBay focus so there’s really no new eBay info being offered. I’m really grateful for their content tho.
I like being in the group for the social aspect of helping me stay on track. I attend the morning call every day. It's my people and we're all moving towards a similar goal. The accountant in the group is insanely helpful. I'm in the 100k call as well and we do alot more growth execution in there.
I hope you saw that Hairy Tornado sent a Shout Out for your channel. I admire you for working even though handicapped. Congrats on your channel and family. I lost 73 pounds 6 years ago by stopping eating sugar and counting carbs to 20 a day or less. Hope that helps you.
I need to do something for sure, I gained just enough weight that my half leg isn't fully seating in the fake leg socket and it feels like I am walking uphill all the time.
Many nails hit on the head here😁 When I first started thinking about selling on eBay I watched various seller videos for 3 full months before I listed anything. Chris was one of the bigger folks to watch on youtube but I never got a good feeling from him. There was something about him that just didn't sit right with me but that's just a matter of personal preference. Some of his advice may be useful but I tend to watch folks I can relate to in some way. Every seller's experience will be different, depending on where they live and what's available to them. And him paying his employees $20/hr is like a person in Phoenix paying their employees $12/hr. or someone in Iowa paying their people $8/hr. Cost of living matters.
Funny thing is that the $8 an hour person in Iowa can probably afford to split a decent apartment with someone while the $20 an hour person in the Bay certainly lives with their parents.
This was a great video. It was informative and fair take on them without being nasty. Very clever how you weave in & keep retention with showing items on your videos. I just started following you from Angie Resells listing show a month ago...your going to do well on TH-cam mark my words😊
I have experimented with a lot of different videos and my focused topic videos do absolutely the best, so I am trying to do as many of those as possible and then just weave the sales in. Some people just manage to come up with great natural banter while just showing items, but I am not always the best at that, so a topic keeps me going.
Sally is my favorite reseller to watch on the free Daily Refinement...she irons clothes while on the live stream and I'm like dude why would you iron clothes that are just going to get wrinkles in them when you ship or store them? She seems to not listen to anything they recommend and just does her own thing. I listen to all of his podcasts and always support his channel.
I used to watch a lot of Daily Refinement’s stuff but what really turned me off was when he posted a comment from someone and his response to it and the original comment was clearly fake. His lengthy response to it was posted within a minute based on the time stamps. There’s no way it could have been real but he acted like it was and got a lot of sympathy from people with it. I’m sure it was to prove a point but when people outright lie it’s a real turnoff… to be fair he does have a lot of good info even if some isn’t 100% truthful.
I agree with everything you said in this video. I follow Daily Refinement and listen to the content but I just take the info that serves me and leave the rest. I don't agree with everything Daily Refinement and Technsports suggests as business strategies but it doesn't mean I can't learn something else from them.
I might suggest that you watch Tech's videos. He goes to the flea markets, thrift stores and shows exactly what he bought. Now that he's retiring on the money he's made starting out with ebay as a young man that he's been able to use for investments, brick and mortar store, landscape business. Hardly can someway say he's not 'all that'. He's a great teacher for those who want to make a better business model for themselves. Many people are doing better because of him. Chris? Not sure what is what with him.
I use the record boxes. I count my time as worth $20 an hour minimum and I can't pack a record well in random cardboard in 3 minutes so the box is cheaper.
Interesting video. I follow their method and it’s transformed my store after my restart. I deal mainly in electronics too. What they are saying works, just so long as you adjust for your niche. And you’re right - after you get what you’re looking for you don’t need the information any more from them. In fact, they’ve said this on numerous podcasts themselves too. That’s the beauty of what they are teaching - it’s meant to be simple (and in some cases common sense) techniques that anyone can do to make sales happen. And I can appreciate tech being straight up with how he delivers his info.
Been selling on ebay 3 years. I watched a bunch of people to learn about Ebay on TH-cam including Chris ever since. Joined the membership for one month and quit because all his videos are free. You'll get more value out of his OLD videos than paying money to listen to it. What's funny is that Chris used to joke "Don't join my membership, ALL my videos are FREE!". He doesn't say it anymore.
I watch him because he occasionally comes up with good advice. I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. He is extremely arrogant, not to be confused with confidence. I've seen him berate people while he's live streaming. I would hate for someone to call me out and then make me sound stupid because I asked a legitimate question. People also need to remember that he has an entire team working for him which is not the norm for most of us.
Sometimes he would drop details about his personal life that I feel would definitely turn off a lot of middle America sellers, like budgeting more money for travel than the average family makes in the midwest. u
I still don't understand how people who are serious about selling maintain stores with obviously higher than sales prices on items which are part number specific and have hundreds of competing listings of the exact same quality. I've decided those sellers are mafia fronts for money laundering.
I also wanted to add that I've only been in one mentor group and it was not with Daily Refinement. The group I was in was really good and it was a lot of resellers bouncing ideas off of each other. It cost me a one time fee of $50 and I'm still part of their group. It was a mixture of newbies and people that'd been selling for years.
My group is free, still getting traction though. I have no plans to monetize past youtube itself or sponsored ads if I ever get approached by one I am willing to take, so far the closes was Vendoo and I agree with Chris that cross-listing isn't great so I turned it down.
@@onefootflipper I do crosslisting and have been going back and forth between what I really want to do vs the worth of doing it. I do very well on eBay and posh, but the other sites are hit and miss. I keep asking if it’s worth my time to post to other sites when I only get a sale every few days from them, plus the cost of using a service like vendoo and posher VA just to keep up with those sites. If you don’t mind me asking, do you have a link tree or can you mention where you sell at? No worries if it’s eBay and you don’t want to post that link.
On the trading card case. Was it shipped with tracking? Just asking cause I'm starting to put up cards without tracking and just shipping in envelopes and was wondering if people that do that get a lot of item not received cases and what happens
There is no reason to ship cards stamp and envelope on ebay, you can print the tracked postage right from ebay and it is cheaper than a stamp. This was using that. As far as items not received stamp and envelope it is heavily dependent on card type (I used to run a stamp and envelope card account before you could do the postage on ebay). Sports cards claims were basically non-existent, magic the gathering was about 3 percent and cards for the anime based games were closer to 10 percent in claims.
you almost said "my favorite people." Everyone knows that Ole CMRetro is one of your favorite people lol. Clothing is brutal. I mainly sell video games and collectibles and whatnot..I usually get Nike, ADIDAS, golf shirts and POLO shirts a Goodwill on half off day. I get good stuff in the best sizes (L, XL, XXL) I make sure they are in very nice shape, wash them, take good photos..and they just are slow seller. I even price them below market. It's just a tough racket
I did almost say my favorite people you are right. I couldn't do clothes at all, too rough for a disabled seller, too many items to look through for each actual purchase. I only ever get clothes at garage sales and then only if I see a concert shirt or something vintage on top of the pile, otherwise I don't even look.
First time I sold an item on EBay was back in 2008. I’ve been a serious reseller for about 2 years. As for Chris, and tech sports, I’ve learned a lot from listening to podcasts. things Chris says (and I sell clothing and some antiques) for the most part are factual, although he is not as knowledgeable as many might think. Back when he had a store, he had many many basic mall brands, very slow sell through rates unless you sell for cheap. Actually same with Tech. There are many resellers that quality wise are much much better. Again I’ve learned a lot from both, but would not pay for membership and many things they say , take it with a grain of salt.
I really follow chris and tech heavy as a non clothing seller and think there the best in the business. That being said you're pretty awesome as well sir, I respect you and the way you hustle. Nice stores btw just subscribed looking forward to your future vids.
Thanks, the old store does get a little worse every day though as I never add anything to it anymore, trying to shrink it down in size to cut the subscription level and just make it all cards.
@@jerseypicker6153 It is a little more work, but I feel long term having the trading cards and everything else in separate stores is the right way to go. How it went before if someone looked at something good and clicked to see my other items they would see about 15 trading cards for every regular item and that had to be hurting me.
Hate to find fault, but you are about the third person on TH-cam today I've seen who thinks that the contraction for "they are" is "there." It's actually "they're" but what the hell, it's only TH-cam.
The funniest thing about Chris and Technsports is that they outright tell you they are repeating the same things over and over again. I believe it was technsports that said the following in one of the podcast: "We are reselling personal trainers. Our job is to remind you to do the same things over and over again, exactly what a personal trainer for fitness does with their clients." And truth be told, can you blame them for taking that route? Too many people get into reselling and cannot focus at all on the entire process.
I love em, but they are big enough boys where I felt like I didn't really need to pull any punches, it isn't going to hurt their feelings or their bottom line.
I sold my first cd. Thanks for advice. How do you ship personally? I Frankenstein boxed it. I made a buck or two with the risk game. Thanks the cds are easy because I have no buy in unless you count me buying them 20+ years ago
Hopefully, a one-foot flipper does not mind me using him as an example. And I am not talking about Technsports. If one-foot flipper is going to show me how to succeed as a small eBay seller. If he has celebrity friends and has access to samples and rare shoes (that he gets suspended for selling on eBay) tell me that from the beginning because those are things most people don't have access to!
The California thing is just due to the overall high income in the areas of the state that actually have the bins. I think Florida has more of a mix of low to high.
I think Chris has OCD and that gives me anxiety Lol. One podcast, Tech sounded so agitated with Chris because even the name Daily Refinement means you never really find "your groove". Tech said he does everything the same every day and thats how he has turned his business into a machine. You dont want to keep fixing something that isnt broken. Maybe it should be "Daily Repetition"😅 Btw, I should add that they both have something to offer especially to newbies and I have nothing against them, I just dont intend on using their model so ultimately I burned out on the channel. Ive been doing ebay since 2001 and I'm good with part time, higher end items so i can work less and still make good money.
I live in the Bay Area, Chris's bins by South San Francisco aren't that great compared to the rest of California. I've had better experiences in San Bern and Salinas because the location is way bigger. Also the bins here aren't that great imo, it's too competitive. I'm pretty sure there are pockets in the midwest and mideast that have amazing items with less resellers.
It sounds like you need to learn more about the people you are talking about. You come off ignorant for the very little you know, just cause you haven’t installed all of the dependencies they have doesn’t give you the right to hate.
Thanks for watching. I am a huge fan of Chris, there is zero hate in this video. He has seen both videos I have made about him, we have talked about it and he took no offense to them.
They have a proven system. Chris did more experiments with ebay than anyone I ve heard of.. Of course they have someone to wirk for them, look at the size of their business. They say the samme thjng bcz its what works.
Learn quite a bit from Dailyrefinement but I don't follow his advice really at all. He made a video recently saying how someone he knew who primarily sells a certain type of clothes got some extra shoes/bonus items and wanted to list them for "extra money". He said he wouldn't do that and that it would harm that persons store and that you should only sell one item or a set of items. I completely disagree with that statement and I believe you limit yourself when you do that. Like I sell lots of stuff but I try to stick to certain items but if i run across a good find i'm buying and selling. Lots of my "homeruns" have been me experimenting with items I don't know about but I've seen comps of. It is very true though if you stick to a set of items, shipping and packing become really fast and efficient.
Isn't it awesome? It isn't like I underpriced it, it took 6 months to sell, I believe it got a 10 percent markdown a few days ago which finally made it move.
Wow, I remember when everyone was collecting vintage cameras, which made the market so ridiculously high. If it's down like that again I may have to start collecting again.
I keep a few no valuable items. I couldn’t relate to daily refinements. I think I have a certain TH-camr watching my videos between his listing 200 items per day…
Sure, I will just grow a new leg to replace the missing one, get out of the wheelchair and start going to the gym like Chris does. Thanks for your insight.
I made the mistake of joining their paetreon for 1 month and learned nothing, most people on the calls are wasting time listening to themselves talk about nothing constructive. Then you have their little spin offs Beau Johnson and Dixons Pickins who are charging to say the same information that they learned from Technsports. Both of them have horrible sell thru rates in their ebay stores for 90 days and they encourage to people to just keep upping their inventory with junk brands. "The bigger you scale, the less quality items you will have to pick up" Horrible advice. Also it's misleading for 1 of them to say last year he was a 6 figure reseller, he should have said gross, not net, he did not net 6 figures last year, but that his tagline of most of his videos.
Did they really say it's better to scale up then to source quality items? And I agree with the misleading title, there is no need to mislead people if you genuinely want to help people with their ebay business.
Chris “Daily Refinement” comes off as pompous and disingenuous. The business model seems to be setup for wholesaling and dealing in volume. Definitely monetizing every social media opportunity. This guy was definitely dealing in stolen goods and that’s why he is no longer on eBay. I do not find him the least bit relatable
He has some good tips at times, and does tend to come off as if he’s the ebay guru. Does appear very pompous. Unbelievable seller found on ebay’s platform selling high end shoes and other items, but could not prove distributor, or provide invoices for type and kind of items is highly suspected that stolen items are involved. Reside in San Francisco , not far from Chinatown where replicas are often sold on the streets next to nothing. No doubt, a lot of monies were made off items he couldn’t legally account for in the first place. Ebay did right in regard to decision made.
San Francisco accounts for more than 50% of goods coming to the USA. So you just need a container diverted to you to make banks. Port areas are where shady deals happen and hard to believe that his grails were only found in garage sales and goodwill. Every business now is on top of the game and sometimes people choose another route. Lol
Dude, you need to fact check. Tech travels miles to do flea markets . Watch his videos and see for yourself what Tech is doing. Realize this is an old video...update yourself on the truth.
Old video from before he had an social presence outside of the now dead podcast. He seemed to like this video and thanked me for making it, although I hear that Chris hated it.
Dude, do your show without being a hater. Pretty sad when you have good information to share with those of us who resale. We listen to many different channels for the bits of info that can help increase our sales. Take whats useful and leave the rest. Being negative on those who freely share they're experience, knowledge and advice is totatly unbecoming of someone i had a high regard for. Check yourself
Now, I have to go back and watch this again, while I wasn't being a gushing fanboy I didn't think it was some sort of hit piece in any way. I am a fan of both of them.
@@Find.list.ship66 He's got a good informative show that's growing. Based on what? Sharing his knowledge, experience, struggles and wins. We can all relate and benefit, and also appreciate his efforts. Hating is when you deviate from that and attack other resellers. There's no benefit for him, you or me. However There are those jerry springer fans who love dirt. Best not to associate with that type as they usually have nothing to offer.
Nothing he said in this video was hateful at all. What are you going on about? You need to check YOURSELF. I follow DailyRefinement, listen to the podcasts and I still agree with everything that was said in this video.
I agree with you 100% when I started to resell in November I watch chirs all the time and I learned alot but since about March I haven't really listened. I've learned just as much from you andcommonwealth Flipper. Chirs does a live Q&A on here and he answers every question. I would recommend him for beginners then branch out to other resellers
Tech is the real deal. Chris is piggybacking 😂 SO happy Tech has his own channel now 🎉
Chris is on his out as far as youtube is concerned and I just don't think there is anything he can do to stop it. Part of the reseller youtube space is selling the fantasy life to your viewers and there just aren't that many people whose fantasy life is a high labor whatnot clothing selling business that can't even be copied anywhere outside of high income areas of the country. His views are way down and all tech's content has been pulled from the channel. I wouldn't be surprised if Chris popped back up as an investment channel in a year or two.
I totally agree with you about Tech. I've learned so much from him. His course is for all sellers. Not just clothing. Deep dives on many catagories. Tech works more then anyother reseller as far as I can tell. This video here is not factual at all about Tech.
I've watched Chris on Daily Refinment since he was 10k on the Bay. He was taking photos, Packing and shipping from his little apartment on the floor. The best thing he offers is setting up a system to streamline your process and becoming super efficient. Everything else is to be filtered for your own specific case.
Becoming efficient was big for me.
I went from 33k to 62k for my 90 day listening to mostly tech and he really changed my mindset on how to view my business and to be willing to accept offers. If you seen his old insta post, he was picking up monster clothing items before changing his business model to the low profit, high volume approach, which at some point everyone will have to do if you want to scale to his level and make more money. He even says that the stuff they bring in he would not personally pick up himself, but you cant make more money if your store size stays the same. I think there general advice applies for the most part, niche down, create a inventory system, and education.
Exactly.
You are right about the mentor group - if you're new to reselling and you don't want to have to sift through the web for your answers, but instead have a group to lean on, it's a great place. When I was a member of the group, I was essentially paying to coach and guide other new resellers. I didn't gain anything from the few months I was in the group, but I did leave something behind to help new resellers in the form of a video guide on photography. I still sub the podcasts and they're mostly great. Those two have helped me more than any other resellers. Their very early podcasts are inspirational and motivational.
Seems like a bunch of stuff is going on with them. I might have to make a followup video!
As a former member of their group and a 10 year veteran of ebay this is my opinion: People give them too much credit. Tech isn't an eBay god and Chris isn't a guru. I do appreciate them offering a group where resellers can get together and discuss their businesses but the price is way too high (imo). People are better off learning through trial and error or sifting through free YT videos and groups to gain knowledge.
I have to get this off my chest about Tech: He is the best at one thing and that is his work ethic and hustle. He will outwork every single person to be the top dog. Saying that NO ONE should follow his model if they want to be a successful pre-owned clothing reseller. His listings are absolutely terrible and it really gets under my skin. They talk about perfect titles but his are absolutely terrible. He refused to learn or teach his employees vital keywords to sell his items. Also when they talk about the $8 - $30 model I have to cringe because Tech's store is filled with under $10 stained junk. It's the "sell anything, list it as fast as possible and promote it high to move them". This is why his sell through isn't impressive because of his titles and the lower quality of his items. I admire his work ethic because working 20 hour days 7 days a week will kill most people. Other than that his store is lower tier and I can't respect that.
Chris talks a good game and I do like listening to him but after he was banned on eBay I just can't take his advice about the platform. It's like me trying to lose weight by taking advice from a person who weighs 500 pounds. I do respect him pivoting from eBay to What Not because he does kill it on there. He has a great business mind with his multiple revenue streams from the FB group to What Not to Wholesaling to whatever else he has going on.
So in short I do respect their business minds but there are far better ways to run your eBay business from their actions
Great insight.
Thanks for your honesty. I don't understand how more people didn't call him out for selling high end shoes that got him banned...yet every week saying he was making millions off of mall brands...even Technsports should have felt betrayed because he was lying & betraying everyone including his business partner. At the end of the day basic math tells me they are also making a killing off memberships & etc just like Ralli Roots & other reselling gurus❤
@@TJ-yv3kp I chose specifically to ignore that as it would have turned the whole thing darker than I wanted it to be.
@@TJ-yv3kp To be fair people did call Chris out when it happened. It still happens in the comment sections from what I see. Tech was disappointed in him but there's too much money to be left on the table to close the group because of Chris' actions. It makes way too much money
@@mikec3949 Oh to be clear I know SOME did & Tech chose $ because it's business. I'm saying Chris's greed made everything lose credibility. If you cheat...you will steal and you will lie. #truth
I really like this guy. He’s 100% true about these two guys. I get the same impressions. Thank you for saying it out load.
Thanks.
I have been an eBay Seller for 19 years (mostly casual). In 2022, I needed to supplement Social (in)Security. I discovered Chris & Tech and have benefited greatly from their channels. I don't subscribe to their patreon. I am an everything Seller, which they don't recommend. I am old, so I have a lot of general knowledge about a variety of items and I love to attend auctions. I hate BINS shopping, and I live in rural southern Ohio, so I don't live near any major shopping districts. I do what works for me. I enjoy my life and eBay is extremely gratifying. The money is getting better all the time! Your video is great and I'll keep viewing. Thanks!!!
Thanks so much. I am also an everything seller, I am only 45, but I am disabled (right leg amputee) so I share a lot of the challenges that older sellers face.
Just in case someone didn't already mention it. 2 most easily recognized Steely Dan songs are "Reelin in the Years," and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number." :)
Finally one I know!
Thanks for being so real and down to Earth. I've watched Daily Refinement in the past, but haven't done so in a long time, just didn't find what he does relevant to how I run my business. Not that it doesn't work for him, I'm sure he is very successful, I just find I do better with my own model. I do watch other resellers channels for tidbits of knowledge. I'm happy TH-cam recommended you in the algorithm. Great video! Best of luck to you!
Thanks so much for watching.
Thank you for this video. Your criticisms are very constructive. And being skeptical when watching these videos is a must. Once a newbie starts adding 2 and 2 together and starts building their own experience, I assume they move on. I would love to see his churn rate on his groups/courses etc. I assume it is high. Which means you must always be finding new “buyers” and eventually the tap runs dry.
Thanks for watching.
There are always new people coming along. That said, he also has a core of lifers who will never leave the group.
Same thing happened to me with a $1200 coin. The bird said it was not in the package. He contacted his credit card company and Ebay favored him. Now they have my money a hole for the second case same amount same buyer same order
I agree, their podcast is one of the best. I've listened to some multiple times. As far as the group calls, a waste of my time only because it seems there is way too much time sharing cute analogies between things that have nothing to do with reselling.
I really wanted to make the whole video really be about Technsports but I couldn't really leave Chris out since Tech's entire social media is linked to Chris.
Most people tune in to daily Refinement just to here Tech, daily Refinement success is inflated because of his you tube popularity, but Tech got his sales the harder way.
I really wanted to make the video just about Tech, but his social media is too intertwined with Chris to separate.
Yeah I'd say working 20 hours every day while driving to 45 thrift stores would be the harder way
My location, rural Alabama, really forces me to be an "everything" seller. Clothes in these parts are pretty much what you find at Walmart; only used. Selling a little bit of everything really goes against the teachings of Chris and Technsports. So yes, I do have to spend more time researching and more time shipping items but it is not boring and it can be done for a $100 net profit per day business model. I know that is not for everyone. But the advantage that I have is the cost of living is pretty low here and my work week can be between 20 - 30 hours including sourcing. So yes, $30 an hour is in reach and often surpassed. There was a reason I left a high pressured job for this.
I am in a now paid off house in Missouri and it doesn't even seem to matter how much money I make anymore. Everything gets paid and the bank balance goes up every month.
Came for the no BS style, stayed for the dry sense of humor. Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
This was 100% accurate. When I first started watched Chris I wasn’t selling clothes and made around 50k. I have now been a six figure eBay seller for going on 3 years. If your starting out it’s the best content around. But at this level it basically comes down to hiring help and expanding if you choose. Chris is no longer eBay focus so there’s really no new eBay info being offered. I’m really grateful for their content tho.
Chris just milks people to be a mentor, why anyone would ask a person who got booted from Ebay for advice is beyond me...
Seems like a bunch of stuff is going on with them. I might have to make a followup video!
I like being in the group for the social aspect of helping me stay on track. I attend the morning call every day. It's my people and we're all moving towards a similar goal. The accountant in the group is insanely helpful. I'm in the 100k call as well and we do alot more growth execution in there.
Thanks for that. I am sure the community aspect is really important to some people.
I hope you saw that Hairy Tornado sent a Shout Out for your channel. I admire you for working even though handicapped. Congrats on your channel and family. I lost 73 pounds 6 years ago by stopping eating sugar and counting carbs to 20 a day or less. Hope that helps you.
I need to do something for sure, I gained just enough weight that my half leg isn't fully seating in the fake leg socket and it feels like I am walking uphill all the time.
Many nails hit on the head here😁 When I first started thinking about selling on eBay I watched various seller videos for 3 full months before I listed anything. Chris was one of the bigger folks to watch on youtube but I never got a good feeling from him. There was something about him that just didn't sit right with me but that's just a matter of personal preference. Some of his advice may be useful but I tend to watch folks I can relate to in some way. Every seller's experience will be different, depending on where they live and what's available to them. And him paying his employees $20/hr is like a person in Phoenix paying their employees $12/hr. or someone in Iowa paying their people $8/hr. Cost of living matters.
Funny thing is that the $8 an hour person in Iowa can probably afford to split a decent apartment with someone while the $20 an hour person in the Bay certainly lives with their parents.
@@onefootflipper Absolutely. That or they have a 2nd job.
But in San Francisco you can legally take a crap in the street. Great video buddy !
Thanks.
I clicked on your video in hopes of actually seeing what Tech looks like 😂. Great video!
Judging from a few of the comments from people who have seen him in private streams the picture I used was actually pretty close to the mark.
Hahaha
Re selling is a Job. I want a business not a job. Tech n Chris are doing it right.
This was a great video. It was informative and fair take on them without being nasty. Very clever how you weave in & keep retention with showing items on your videos. I just started following you from Angie Resells listing show a month ago...your going to do well on TH-cam mark my words😊
I have experimented with a lot of different videos and my focused topic videos do absolutely the best, so I am trying to do as many of those as possible and then just weave the sales in. Some people just manage to come up with great natural banter while just showing items, but I am not always the best at that, so a topic keeps me going.
Sally is my favorite reseller to watch on the free Daily Refinement...she irons clothes while on the live stream and I'm like dude why would you iron clothes that are just going to get wrinkles in them when you ship or store them? She seems to not listen to anything they recommend and just does her own thing. I listen to all of his podcasts and always support his channel.
Seems like a bunch of stuff is going on with them. I might have to make a followup video!
The good items are not in Hawaii either! But, I really have learned quite a lot as far as the other components of reselling.
I used to watch a lot of Daily Refinement’s stuff but what really turned me off was when he posted a comment from someone and his response to it and the original comment was clearly fake. His lengthy response to it was posted within a minute based on the time stamps. There’s no way it could have been real but he acted like it was and got a lot of sympathy from people with it. I’m sure it was to prove a point but when people outright lie it’s a real turnoff… to be fair he does have a lot of good info even if some isn’t 100% truthful.
He does seem to rub a lot of people the wrong way, I like to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.
I agree with everything you said in this video. I follow Daily Refinement and listen to the content but I just take the info that serves me and leave the rest. I don't agree with everything Daily Refinement and Technsports suggests as business strategies but it doesn't mean I can't learn something else from them.
Thanks.
I might suggest that you watch Tech's videos. He goes to the flea markets, thrift stores and shows exactly what he bought. Now that he's retiring on the money he's made starting out with ebay as a young man that he's been able to use for investments, brick and mortar store, landscape business. Hardly can someway say he's not 'all that'. He's a great teacher for those who want to make a better business model for themselves. Many people are doing better because of him. Chris? Not sure what is what with him.
Old video made on the information and situation at the time. Tech had no problem with it.
do you send records in those boxes made for records or do you just cut a box up and make your own ?
I use the record boxes. I count my time as worth $20 an hour minimum and I can't pack a record well in random cardboard in 3 minutes so the box is cheaper.
Interesting video. I follow their method and it’s transformed my store after my restart. I deal mainly in electronics too.
What they are saying works, just so long as you adjust for your niche. And you’re right - after you get what you’re looking for you don’t need the information any more from them. In fact, they’ve said this on numerous podcasts themselves too. That’s the beauty of what they are teaching - it’s meant to be simple (and in some cases common sense) techniques that anyone can do to make sales happen. And I can appreciate tech being straight up with how he delivers his info.
Thanks for watching, amazing how many people watched this same video and thought I was hating on them.
Thanks so much for the info! I’ve been on the fence about paying for their subscription, but I can finally make a decision!
Glad I could help.
Been selling on ebay 3 years. I watched a bunch of people to learn about Ebay on TH-cam including Chris ever since. Joined the membership for one month and quit because all his videos are free. You'll get more value out of his OLD videos than paying money to listen to it. What's funny is that Chris used to joke "Don't join my membership, ALL my videos are FREE!". He doesn't say it anymore.
there are so many people on youtube you can watch. He has something like 3k patron members so he is making huge money just from that.
@@flourishingflow4674 Interesting!
I watch him because he occasionally comes up with good advice. I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. He is extremely arrogant, not to be confused with confidence. I've seen him berate people while he's live streaming. I would hate for someone to call me out and then make me sound stupid because I asked a legitimate question. People also need to remember that he has an entire team working for him which is not the norm for most of us.
Sometimes he would drop details about his personal life that I feel would definitely turn off a lot of middle America sellers, like budgeting more money for travel than the average family makes in the midwest. u
@@onefootflipper You couldn't be more on point about this.
I still don't understand how people who are serious about selling maintain stores with obviously higher than sales prices on items which are part number specific and have hundreds of competing listings of the exact same quality.
I've decided those sellers are mafia fronts for money laundering.
I think they are just bad, or ebay is part of a larger business.
Great advice I was noticing this too thanks you for articulating it so well
Seems like a bunch of stuff is going on with them. I might have to make a followup video!
I also wanted to add that I've only been in one mentor group and it was not with Daily Refinement. The group I was in was really good and it was a lot of resellers bouncing ideas off of each other. It cost me a one time fee of $50 and I'm still part of their group. It was a mixture of newbies and people that'd been selling for years.
My group is free, still getting traction though. I have no plans to monetize past youtube itself or sponsored ads if I ever get approached by one I am willing to take, so far the closes was Vendoo and I agree with Chris that cross-listing isn't great so I turned it down.
@@onefootflipper I do crosslisting and have been going back and forth between what I really want to do vs the worth of doing it. I do very well on eBay and posh, but the other sites are hit and miss. I keep asking if it’s worth my time to post to other sites when I only get a sale every few days from them, plus the cost of using a service like vendoo and posher VA just to keep up with those sites. If you don’t mind me asking, do you have a link tree or can you mention where you sell at? No worries if it’s eBay and you don’t want to post that link.
@@flosposhcloset My two ebay stores should already be in the comments of every video. I don't sell anywhere else.
On the trading card case. Was it shipped with tracking? Just asking cause I'm starting to put up cards without tracking and just shipping in envelopes and was wondering if people that do that get a lot of item not received cases and what happens
There is no reason to ship cards stamp and envelope on ebay, you can print the tracked postage right from ebay and it is cheaper than a stamp. This was using that. As far as items not received stamp and envelope it is heavily dependent on card type (I used to run a stamp and envelope card account before you could do the postage on ebay). Sports cards claims were basically non-existent, magic the gathering was about 3 percent and cards for the anime based games were closer to 10 percent in claims.
Man you are nailing it today...keep it up. Thanks
I try!
come on ... Steely Dan .... Reeling in the Years, My old School, Hey Nineteen ....
you almost said "my favorite people." Everyone knows that Ole CMRetro is one of your favorite people lol. Clothing is brutal. I mainly sell video games and collectibles and whatnot..I usually get Nike, ADIDAS, golf shirts and POLO shirts a Goodwill on half off day. I get good stuff in the best sizes (L, XL, XXL) I make sure they are in very nice shape, wash them, take good photos..and they just are slow seller. I even price them below market. It's just a tough racket
I did almost say my favorite people you are right. I couldn't do clothes at all, too rough for a disabled seller, too many items to look through for each actual purchase. I only ever get clothes at garage sales and then only if I see a concert shirt or something vintage on top of the pile, otherwise I don't even look.
First time I sold an item on EBay was back in 2008. I’ve been a serious reseller for about 2 years. As for Chris, and tech sports, I’ve learned a lot from listening to podcasts. things Chris says (and I sell clothing and some antiques) for the most part are factual, although he is not as knowledgeable as many might think. Back when he had a store, he had many many basic mall brands, very slow sell through rates unless you sell for cheap. Actually same with Tech. There are many resellers that quality wise are much much better. Again I’ve learned a lot from both, but would not pay for membership and many things they say , take it with a grain of salt.
Well thought out.
Now I got that “Hey 19” Steely Dan song in my head. Thanks a lot!
Glad I could.... help?
i’m a big fan of tech and chris …
I don't watch as much as I used to, but I am still a fan.
I really follow chris and tech heavy as a non clothing seller and think there the best in the business. That being said you're pretty awesome as well sir, I respect you and the way you hustle. Nice stores btw just subscribed looking forward to your future vids.
Thanks, the old store does get a little worse every day though as I never add anything to it anymore, trying to shrink it down in size to cut the subscription level and just make it all cards.
@@onefootflipper did you notice having 2 seperate stores helped you out?
@@jerseypicker6153 It is a little more work, but I feel long term having the trading cards and everything else in separate stores is the right way to go. How it went before if someone looked at something good and clicked to see my other items they would see about 15 trading cards for every regular item and that had to be hurting me.
Hate to find fault, but you are about the third person on TH-cam today I've seen who thinks that the contraction for "they are" is "there." It's actually
"they're" but what the hell, it's only TH-cam.
thanks for that
@@ramblinralph7609
The funniest thing about Chris and Technsports is that they outright tell you they are repeating the same things over and over again.
I believe it was technsports that said the following in one of the podcast: "We are reselling personal trainers. Our job is to remind you to do the same things over and over again, exactly what a personal trainer for fitness does with their clients."
And truth be told, can you blame them for taking that route? Too many people get into reselling and cannot focus at all on the entire process.
They do indeed say that a lot. One reason why I only catch the occasional podcast and don't watch every day anymore.
Lol I really like your overview of their channel
I love em, but they are big enough boys where I felt like I didn't really need to pull any punches, it isn't going to hurt their feelings or their bottom line.
@@onefootflipper 100%, they are big enough where it wont really matter as well it was good you put your opinion and spin on it!
Great information! Thank you! New to eBay reseller here,,,,,,but i have been a reseller for years. 😊❤
Glad it was helpful!
I sold my first cd. Thanks for advice. How do you ship personally? I Frankenstein boxed it. I made a buck or two with the risk game. Thanks the cds are easy because I have no buy in unless you count me buying them 20+ years ago
I ship CDs in bubble mailers unless I am out of them, in that case I fold a piece of cardboard around the case and tape that shut.
Hopefully, a one-foot flipper does not mind me using him as an example. And I am not talking about Technsports. If one-foot flipper is going to show me how to succeed as a small eBay seller. If he has celebrity friends and has access to samples and rare shoes (that he gets suspended for selling on eBay) tell me that from the beginning because those are things most people don't have access to!
I chose not to address that on purpose, it would have made the whole thing about that. Maybe I will make another video about that some day.
you say california is the best state for the bins, would u consider florida being close to california
The California thing is just due to the overall high income in the areas of the state that actually have the bins. I think Florida has more of a mix of low to high.
@@onefootflipperhave you ever been to a bins in Florida? Sounds like you never have. I have and what you said is bull. I live in Florida.
I think Chris has OCD and that gives me anxiety Lol. One podcast, Tech sounded so agitated with Chris because even the name Daily Refinement means you never really find "your groove". Tech said he does everything the same every day and thats how he has turned his business into a machine. You dont want to keep fixing something that isnt broken. Maybe it should be "Daily Repetition"😅 Btw, I should add that they both have something to offer especially to newbies and I have nothing against them, I just dont intend on using their model so ultimately I burned out on the channel. Ive been doing ebay since 2001 and I'm good with part time, higher end items so i can work less and still make good money.
My Daily Refinement fandom is really more based on Technsports than it is Chris.
Daily Refinement is good for general motivation and background chatter. If you don't sell clothes, none of their metrics mean anything.
Right, I can't expect a 90 day sell through on a $600 warhammer boxed set that only sells once a year.
He got booted from Ebay, why would anyone want his advice?
I live in the Bay Area, Chris's bins by South San Francisco aren't that great compared to the rest of California. I've had better experiences in San Bern and Salinas because the location is way bigger. Also the bins here aren't that great imo, it's too competitive. I'm pretty sure there are pockets in the midwest and mideast that have amazing items with less resellers.
Thanks for the video
You bet
Another great T shirt ⭐️
My wife buys all my clothes!
That’s not tecknsports
There were no public photos of him available when this video was made. I used the person I thought he sounded most like.
It sounds like you need to learn more about the people you are talking about. You come off ignorant for the very little you know, just cause you haven’t installed all of the dependencies they have doesn’t give you the right to hate.
Thanks for watching. I am a huge fan of Chris, there is zero hate in this video. He has seen both videos I have made about him, we have talked about it and he took no offense to them.
John Leguizamo??????
I always thought Technsports sounded like John, and since there are apparently no photos of the guy I just went with one of John.
Great one I love John 😂
They have a proven system. Chris did more experiments with ebay than anyone I ve heard of.. Of course they have someone to wirk for them, look at the size of their business. They say the samme thjng bcz its what works.
Correct, their system absolutely works for clothes.
ha, so thats what technsports look like. Kind of a reverse Guy Fieri
Edit: oh lol nevermind
Thats what he always looked like in my head, and judging from another comment I have gotten it might not be that far off.
It looks like John Leguizamo lol
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Seems like a bunch of stuff is going on with them. I might have to make a followup video!
Gland you didn't throw that $1000 away!
Yep, now I wish I could find another bag like that in my basement!
well said
Thanks.
Learn quite a bit from Dailyrefinement but I don't follow his advice really at all. He made a video recently saying how someone he knew who primarily sells a certain type of clothes got some extra shoes/bonus items and wanted to list them for "extra money". He said he wouldn't do that and that it would harm that persons store and that you should only sell one item or a set of items. I completely disagree with that statement and I believe you limit yourself when you do that. Like I sell lots of stuff but I try to stick to certain items but if i run across a good find i'm buying and selling. Lots of my "homeruns" have been me experimenting with items I don't know about but I've seen comps of. It is very true though if you stick to a set of items, shipping and packing become really fast and efficient.
RIght I picked up a lot about efficiency, but he is definitely 100 percent in the mindset of making clothing visible on the algorithm.
That's a steal for $25 bucks dude 😮 OMG
Isn't it awesome? It isn't like I underpriced it, it took 6 months to sell, I believe it got a 10 percent markdown a few days ago which finally made it move.
Wow, I remember when everyone was collecting vintage cameras, which made the market so ridiculously high. If it's down like that again I may have to start collecting again.
I don't listen to people who get kicked off ebay about how to sell on ebay. I have no problem with Chris but he lived in a fantasy land.
Very valid point. I chose to not be overly negative about anything in the video, it definitely could have gone much darker.
I keep a few no valuable items. I couldn’t relate to daily refinements. I think I have a certain TH-camr watching my videos between his listing 200 items per day…
@@HelosWorldRailroadReseller is he from st louis too lol
@WeirdStuffOutlet I don't get promoted I suck at youtube lol but I'm very successful at reselling lol
@@RadRelics yep he’s done 2 videos that was pretty much directed at me. I just subscribed and I’m watching your latest video.
Moron tech literally was doing 1m solo be like Chris and go to the gym maybe you won’t be out of breath from just talking 😂😂😂
Sure, I will just grow a new leg to replace the missing one, get out of the wheelchair and start going to the gym like Chris does. Thanks for your insight.
NEVER WATCHED EITHER ..... IF U ASK FOR MONEY FOR FREE INFO ....I HAVE NO TIME FOR THAT ...!!! I LIKE REAL RESELLERS ....NORMAL RESELLERS I GUESS
I prefer normal as well.
I made the mistake of joining their paetreon for 1 month and learned nothing, most people on the calls are wasting time listening to themselves talk about nothing constructive. Then you have their little spin offs Beau Johnson and Dixons Pickins who are charging to say the same information that they learned from Technsports. Both of them have horrible sell thru rates in their ebay stores for 90 days and they encourage to people to just keep upping their inventory with junk brands. "The bigger you scale, the less quality items you will have to pick up" Horrible advice. Also it's misleading for 1 of them to say last year he was a 6 figure reseller, he should have said gross, not net, he did not net 6 figures last year, but that his tagline of most of his videos.
Good information there.
Did they really say it's better to scale up then to source quality items? And I agree with the misleading title, there is no need to mislead people if you genuinely want to help people with their ebay business.
They never teach to list garbage items. You just got all that out of your behind
Chris “Daily Refinement” comes off as pompous and disingenuous. The business model seems to be setup for wholesaling and dealing in volume. Definitely monetizing every social media opportunity. This guy was definitely dealing in stolen goods and that’s why he is no longer on eBay. I do not find him the least bit relatable
I specifically chose not to delve into those areas.
That daily refinement guy looks a sleeping scumbag!
Watching his channel, just the free stuff, I’ve been able to triple what my store is making
He has some good tips at times, and does tend to come off as if he’s the ebay guru. Does appear very pompous. Unbelievable seller found on ebay’s platform selling high end shoes and other items, but could not prove distributor, or provide invoices for type and kind of items is highly suspected that stolen items are involved. Reside in San Francisco , not far from Chinatown where replicas are often sold on the streets next to nothing. No doubt, a lot of monies were made off items he couldn’t legally account for in the first place. Ebay did right in regard to decision made.
San Francisco accounts for more than 50% of goods coming to the USA. So you just need a container diverted to you to make banks. Port areas are where shady deals happen and hard to believe that his grails were only found in garage sales and goodwill. Every business now is on top of the game and sometimes people choose another route. Lol
No one should get hung up on anything that you Resellers popping up with these TH-cam Channels are saying.
Have you been excited to see Tech has his own channel now? I am loving it.
take advice from a guy whos sells Cd's for $2.99 or a guy who's a multi millionaire selling preowned clothing on ebay. Your choice, I guess
His clothing advice is absolutely 100 percent solid, definitely follow if that is your game.
Dude, you need to fact check. Tech travels miles to do flea markets . Watch his videos and see for yourself what Tech is doing. Realize this is an old video...update yourself on the truth.
Old video from before he had an social presence outside of the now dead podcast. He seemed to like this video and thanked me for making it, although I hear that Chris hated it.
@@onefootflipper I apologize. I made a snarky remark. He's such a good guy.
Y’all a bunch of haters lol
I actually love those guys, doesn't make them perfect though!
Your to young for Steely Dan 😂
I am too young for most of the records I sell!
Honestly I thought this must be a satire video. I'll give you a pass because you don't know the background with daily refinement. lol
I chose not to address the shoes and banning issue.
Dude, do your show without being a hater. Pretty sad when you have good information to share with those of us who resale. We listen to many different channels for the bits of info that can help increase our sales. Take whats useful and leave the rest. Being negative on those who freely share they're experience, knowledge and advice is totatly unbecoming of someone i had a high regard for. Check yourself
Now, I have to go back and watch this again, while I wasn't being a gushing fanboy I didn't think it was some sort of hit piece in any way. I am a fan of both of them.
@@Find.list.ship66 How much have You paid to listen to they're content? Probably not one cent more than any of us.
@@Find.list.ship66 He's got a good informative show that's growing. Based on what? Sharing his knowledge, experience, struggles and wins. We can all relate and benefit, and also appreciate his efforts. Hating is when you deviate from that and attack other resellers. There's no benefit for him, you or me. However There are those jerry springer fans who love dirt. Best not to associate with that type as they usually have nothing to offer.
@@Find.list.ship66 You sound so upset. Wonder why
Nothing he said in this video was hateful at all. What are you going on about? You need to check YOURSELF. I follow DailyRefinement, listen to the podcasts and I still agree with everything that was said in this video.
This almost as negative as ebay thrifters on FB..Not listening to this youtube anymore.. I am unsubscribing due to this dudes hate
Thanks for watching, I am not sure where your found hate in an honest evaluation of 2 people I am big fans of and stated as much in the video.
I agree with you 100% when I started to resell in November I watch chirs all the time and I learned alot but since about March I haven't really listened. I've learned just as much from you andcommonwealth Flipper. Chirs does a live Q&A on here and he answers every question. I would recommend him for beginners then branch out to other resellers
Chris and Commonwealth Picker are a great combination. Chris has all the business info, while Kevin is one of the best buyers around.