She was not actually innocent. Under English law Mary was the rightful queen. Parliament had passed a law allowing Henry VIII to decide the succession to the throne. Henry had decided the the throne should go to his daughters Mary and Elizabeth, before Jane’s mother Frances and Jane. Jane would have known this and that her actions were treason. At the same time she was subject to her parents and her father in law. Mary realised this, which is why she did not initially execute Jane and her husband. Jane’s father rebelled against Mary within months. That’s why Mary had Jane executed- because she would always be a figurehead.
Lady Jane's story is mostly the same as Romeo and Juliet. Forced into rules they didn't want to play. Love was never part of it. They were just emotionless puppets. Except they weren't. They were filled with emotions.
@@brontewcat There is no such thing as Royal Blood. Mary's grandfather was a usurper who murdered the king and stole his crown. And Mary was a bloody ruthless tyrant. What went wrong in this story is there should be no crown, there should be no throne, there should be no kingdom.
Actually, Room With A View was shot before "Lady Jane" but released after it. Reason.. Bonham-Carter was 17 turning 18 when she was signed to play the part of Lady Jane Grey. Making her too young to do the topless scenes that were part of the script. So production was delayed a year so that she would be almost 20 when Lady Jane went into production.. Just a little bit of movie trivia for you all!
I'm currently reading the historical fiction by Alison Weir called Innocent Traitor. As the author also writes biographies I feel that all her books are pretty dang close to the truth of what happened all those years ago. And her novel on Lady Jane is an absolute treat to read. I definitely recommend it if anyone's interested. Alison Weir's novels cover Henry the 8th, his six wives, and more people from that era.
That's what parents were like back then at least in upper class to royal families. All they cared about is the family name. Oh hell it is like that in every other family no matter what the class
I saw this movie again recently and enjoyed it. I believe the real Jane and Guildford did love each other the sources seem to indicate this but may not have been as close as they are portrayed as being here.
@@leilasedits "This isn't mine... This is not my right!" Jane Dudley upon being presented with the Crown Imperial ... "Then who's right is it?" John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland to his daughter-in-law... (Had I been Jane in that setting I would have looked at my mother. "My mother.. Her claim is greater then mine... Is it not?"
One of the best movies ever showing the absolute brutality of the Tudor era and how just by being in the right place at the wrong time OR vice versa, can be your destiny towards life or death. Women oppressed today? They have no idea. Horrific to poach such souls at such a tender age. I'm also thinking of the grief stricken nurse of Lady Jane that knew her from the first pair of diapers on her. She harbored deeper pain in many respects than her scheming mother.
I love Jane with all my heart, and feel sad for her - as well for all the other women who deserved so much better. However, I can only say that I agree with 99% of your comment. Women still not equal to men in several fields of life - but I'm glad to live today than any other periods of it and I'm aware of that back then was everything much harder. But there is still much thing to do about equality. :)
This was a real tragedy, she was truly a victim by everyone, her parents, forced marriage at such a young age, not chosen power and her evil cousin, even if it was just 9 days they didn't let her live
Mary wasn't evil, her father was a horrible father to her, Elizabeth and Edward as well as a bad husband, Mary was damaged. So everyone suffered in that cursed family. Elizabeth took the Tudor bloodline to her grave. She avenge her mother, stepmothers, Edward, Mary and her mother and other members of the family that were wronged by Henry and Jane's and Guildford's families
@@Asal-l7b That maybe, Jane was executed because she was a Protestant. Mary executed hundreds of Protestants for obvious reasons if you get my drift and attempted to have her own sister executed cause she was the living reminder of the woman who stole her mother's place. Elizabeth would become the rightful heir to the throne and ended the Tudor bloodline forever
@@khushiU369 In the Beauchamp Tower in the Tower of London where Guildford and his brother Robert were imprisoned, there are two carvings of the name "Jane" into the walls. They're believed to have been carved by Guildford-- there is another carving in the room of Guildford's family crest.
He did. In addition to international.velvet’s points above, Guildford refused to denounce or abandon Jane to save himself. Not even after his own father sold him down the river to save his own skin.
@@deborahproctor9538 she didn't have problem with Jane personally. The problem was that all the people used her to gain power, and as long as Jane is alive, it's always a threat to Mary and her reign. (I'm not saying it's justifies Mary's actions, but in history it's not an unique situation which rulers had to face with.)
@@leilasedits yeah, and she wasn't able to kill Elizabeth too because their relationship as half -sisters was surely complicated thanks to one of the worst dads in the world Henry VIII, but also they were sisters and possibly Mary might have thought after her ghost pregnancy that she might not be able to bear children after this (shw was 37 when she got to the throne) and Elizabeth and her children would take over the throne which she was also scared of given that Elizabeth on the throne means Protestantism would grow and surely Mary did not want that, so she was on fence about killing Elizabeth as part of Protestant killings, which Elizabeth saved herself from pretending that she's Catholic (and Mary forced her to) but she didn't attend Mass and other major Catholic rituals and always found out a way to get out of it.
@@davidlogan4329 I think the previous commenter knows how many people were executed under Mary. There were at least 287 burned alive and 30 who died in prison. In addition there were those executed who took part in the rebellions - one to put Jane on the throne and Wyatt’s rebellion. As the previous poster said Mary was far less brutal than many others. You can compare these figures to the numbers being executed by the Spanish Inquisition, by her father and to those killed in the St Bartholomew’s Massacres. Mary was a sad fanatic, and the persecutions were bad, but I am not sure we can tar her as cruel and brutal. Jane did commit treason. Her father was responsible for Jane’s execution.
Mary was less brutal than her father (something like 52,000 to 72,000 victims) or her half-brother Edward VI (5,500 put to death in the Prayer Book Rebellion). Elizabeth racked up equally many deaths as Mary over religion in her reign as well. The winners write the history. Jane could have said a firm NO, but she was also determined not to allow a Catholic to inherit, a decision which swayed her judgment in the end.
@@guramile I always query the figure for Henry’s reign. I suspect that most of these were for criminal offences rather that political or religious offences. In which case Henry had nothing to do with them. It was the laws passed by Parliament and his judges who were responsible for these deaths.
I've seen this movie at least 30 times. I was obsessed with it as a teen back in the 80s.
Isn't it lovely, how this movie still captures the hearts of so many people, even after decades? ❤️
I watched it all the time in the 80s and 90s too.
Me too. I studied all about it as well......not at all obsessed, no.🤣
❤ your comment.
I watched it perhaps 30 years later but I just love it as much.❤
She was innocent😔 Her problem was her egoistic parents... We can’t know certainly if she loved Guildford. But the film and your edit are incredible💕🥺
Yes 💔
Thank you very much 🖤
She was not actually innocent. Under English law Mary was the rightful queen. Parliament had passed a law allowing Henry VIII to decide the succession to the throne. Henry had decided the the throne should go to his daughters Mary and Elizabeth, before Jane’s mother Frances and Jane.
Jane would have known this and that her actions were treason. At the same time she was subject to her parents and her father in law. Mary realised this, which is why she did not initially execute Jane and her husband. Jane’s father rebelled against Mary within months. That’s why Mary had Jane executed- because she would always be a figurehead.
Lady Jane's story is mostly the same as Romeo and Juliet. Forced into rules they didn't want to play. Love was never part of it. They were just emotionless puppets. Except they weren't. They were filled with emotions.
@@brontewcat There is no such thing as Royal Blood. Mary's grandfather was a usurper who murdered the king and stole his crown. And Mary was a bloody ruthless tyrant.
What went wrong in this story is there should be no crown, there should be no throne, there should be no kingdom.
There is evidence that suggests Jane and Guildford did love each other.
Two young starlets on the brink of major stardom... Elwes next film was The Princess Bride, Carter's was A Room With a View
Actually, Room With A View was shot before "Lady Jane" but released after it. Reason.. Bonham-Carter was 17 turning 18 when she was signed to play the part of Lady Jane Grey. Making her too young to do the topless scenes that were part of the script. So production was delayed a year so that she would be almost 20 when Lady Jane went into production.. Just a little bit of movie trivia for you all!
Elena Bonham Carter is truly an English Rose and a very talented actress
Jane was terribly wronged in all this. She was put on the throne and treated as little more than a puppet. She didn't deserve to die.
I agree. Mary forgave her, and then her own father brought her death... Terribile. My heart is bleeding for her since I know her story. 💔
@@leilasedits Bloody Mary brought about Lady Jane's death. The father was just an excuse.
poor jane 😭😭
Guildford didn't deserve to die ether he was wronged by his family too.
I'm currently reading the historical fiction by Alison Weir called Innocent Traitor. As the author also writes biographies I feel that all her books are pretty dang close to the truth of what happened all those years ago. And her novel on Lady Jane is an absolute treat to read. I definitely recommend it if anyone's interested. Alison Weir's novels cover Henry the 8th, his six wives, and more people from that era.
Thank you very much for the recommendation! I will surely check it!
Alison weir is amazing - it’s so great to have a proper grade A historian write historical fiction !!
I have read all of of those books and enjoyed them,I would love to read innocent traitor again do you know where I can order it
Can you please tell me a summary of how she recalled Lady Jane?
@@RevelHart it'd be easier just to look it up
One of my all time favorite movie's, It's one for the ages.
THEY WERE BOTH USED AND ABUSED. BUT THATS WHAT PARENTS WANTED. THE ONLY ONE WHO CAME OUT CLEAN WAS JANE'S MOTHER LADY FRANCE GREY.
That's what parents were like back then at least in upper class to royal families. All they cared about is the family name. Oh hell it is like that in every other family no matter what the class
Jane has a special place in my heart. She has the same name as me, same age as me and I feel so sorry for her.
Such a beautiful tribute 😍 I loved that movie ❤️
Thank you very much ♥️♥️
@@leilasedits you’re welcome ❤️
What movie is this??
I’m way too obsessed with this movie 😂 😍
You're not alone with this! 😂❤️
@@leilasedits good 😂 everyone thinks I’m crazy for obsessing over it and mist of the time I annoy people by screaming at the telly 😂🥰
Where I can watch the full movie?
I saw this movie again recently and enjoyed it. I believe the real Jane and Guildford did love each other the sources seem to indicate this but may not have been as close as they are portrayed as being here.
Got here after watching My Lady Jane on prime ! They really do love each other in every universe... What's the name of the movie ?
Lady Jane (1986)
She didnt want to be a Queen. She was innocent girl.
Indeed!
@@leilasedits "This isn't mine... This is not my right!" Jane Dudley upon being presented with the Crown Imperial ... "Then who's right is it?" John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland to his daughter-in-law... (Had I been Jane in that setting I would have looked at my mother. "My mother.. Her claim is greater then mine... Is it not?"
I love your tribute 💙
Thank you 🫶🏻
One of the best movies ever showing the absolute brutality of the Tudor era and how just by being in the right place at the wrong time OR vice versa, can be your destiny towards life or death. Women oppressed today? They have no idea. Horrific to poach such souls at such a tender age. I'm also thinking of the grief stricken nurse of Lady Jane that knew her from the first pair of diapers on her. She harbored deeper pain in many respects than her scheming mother.
I love Jane with all my heart, and feel sad for her - as well for all the other women who deserved so much better. However, I can only say that I agree with 99% of your comment. Women still not equal to men in several fields of life - but I'm glad to live today than any other periods of it and I'm aware of that back then was everything much harder. But there is still much thing to do about equality. :)
I agree. She didn't want Jane to get married. But in order to be with Jane she had to obey Jane's mother.
Cary Elwes is so handsome!
I agree! ❤️
And Helena Bonham Carter is so beautiful
i knowww. he was the same actor from the Princess Bride
Ironically, Jane would have been happiest as a cloistered nun. ✝️
She was a Protestant, a convent is the last place she would have found happiness.
Maybe if Jane wasn't born into the Tudor family maybe her life would have been more pleasant and continued with her studies. Same goes for Guildford
Beautiful and sad...❤💔
Thank you 🖤
Wow Helena Bonham Carter was strikingly pretty when she was younger
@@witchingbrew3 she is still gorgeous! ❤️
This was a real tragedy, she was truly a victim by everyone, her parents, forced marriage at such a young age, not chosen power and her evil cousin, even if it was just 9 days they didn't let her live
Mary wasn't evil, her father was a horrible father to her, Elizabeth and Edward as well as a bad husband, Mary was damaged. So everyone suffered in that cursed family. Elizabeth took the Tudor bloodline to her grave. She avenge her mother, stepmothers, Edward, Mary and her mother and other members of the family that were wronged by Henry and Jane's and Guildford's families
@@meganbateman5634 Anyway in this case she is and all of them had sufferred not just her, this is not an excuse for such unfair execution
@@Asal-l7b That maybe, Jane was executed because she was a Protestant. Mary executed hundreds of Protestants for obvious reasons if you get my drift and attempted to have her own sister executed cause she was the living reminder of the woman who stole her mother's place. Elizabeth would become the rightful heir to the throne and ended the Tudor bloodline forever
Perhaps they didn’t love each other but the irony is that they remained married to each other and she didn’t commit adultery.
Did he commit adultery?
There’s a lot of evidence that suggests that Jane and Guildford did fall in love.
Loved this movie.❤
Wow Helena Bonham Carter was very pretty when she was younger, looked like an angel, and she aged very well
I feel so sorry for this young girl. Just a kid. Her parents were horrible and that husband. Good lord.
Wow I never realised that the young Helena Bonham Carter looked a lot like Libuse Safronkova (from three hazelnuts for Cinderella).
She will have a better ressurection and Guilford with her.
Back when my now late mum was a baby 😢 in 1986
Beautiful 😢😍
Thank you 🖤
Omg a star studded movie!
I love your video!!
Thank you!
Una de las mas hermosas películas que vi ✨🌹 Jane , alguien asombrosa e inocente
I love the name guildford❤
Poor my Queen
This version was much better than the modern version that was just released…
@@kellyl7688 the goal of the two series is entirely different. I enjoyed both :)
The two are insanely deffirent , i mean the new one is fantasy 😅
I cried so badly 😭
They would have been happy together
Just watched the movie again. It's wonderfully cast, lovely to look at and beautifully scored but this is a dramatization, not a documentary.
Where can I watch it? can you give me a link?
@@iPadAdult I have the DVD.
@@iPadAdult myflixer.to/movie/lady-jane-897
The Tudors killing their cousins is crazy to me they destroyed eachother
What is the name of the background song?
Alguien me puede decir donde puedo ver esta película en español
Rory and Logan vibes…
Did anyone know if Guildford loved Jane grey at all
I wanted to know the same. Tell me if you got to know
@@khushiU369 In the Beauchamp Tower in the Tower of London where Guildford and his brother Robert were imprisoned, there are two carvings of the name "Jane" into the walls. They're believed to have been carved by Guildford-- there is another carving in the room of Guildford's family crest.
Ironic! His older brother fell in love with Elizabeth!
He did. In addition to international.velvet’s points above, Guildford refused to denounce or abandon Jane to save himself. Not even after his own father sold him down the river to save his own skin.
Adored carey elves when he was younger. So good looking.
I dont understand why mary 1 just didnt leave them alone. Jane didnt want the crown. I blame janes father.
@@deborahproctor9538 she didn't have problem with Jane personally. The problem was that all the people used her to gain power, and as long as Jane is alive, it's always a threat to Mary and her reign. (I'm not saying it's justifies Mary's actions, but in history it's not an unique situation which rulers had to face with.)
@@leilasedits yeah, and she wasn't able to kill Elizabeth too because their relationship as half -sisters was surely complicated thanks to one of the worst dads in the world Henry VIII, but also they were sisters and possibly Mary might have thought after her ghost pregnancy that she might not be able to bear children after this (shw was 37 when she got to the throne) and Elizabeth and her children would take over the throne which she was also scared of given that Elizabeth on the throne means Protestantism would grow and surely Mary did not want that, so she was on fence about killing Elizabeth as part of Protestant killings, which Elizabeth saved herself from pretending that she's Catholic (and Mary forced her to) but she didn't attend Mass and other major Catholic rituals and always found out a way to get out of it.
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Truly an innocent Protestant martyr that died at the hands of the cold hearted brutal Bloody Mary.
Mary wasn't brutal. She was in fact more merciful than other rulers at the time. But traitors aren't pardoned twice.
@@RH-td7vc guess you don't understand how many she murdered.
@@davidlogan4329 I think the previous commenter knows how many people were executed under Mary. There were at least 287 burned alive and 30 who died in prison. In addition there were those executed who took part in the rebellions - one to put Jane on the throne and Wyatt’s rebellion.
As the previous poster said Mary was far less brutal than many others. You can compare these figures to the numbers being executed by the Spanish Inquisition, by her father and to those killed in the St Bartholomew’s Massacres.
Mary was a sad fanatic, and the persecutions were bad, but I am not sure we can tar her as cruel and brutal. Jane did commit treason. Her father was responsible for Jane’s execution.
Mary was less brutal than her father (something like 52,000 to 72,000 victims) or her half-brother Edward VI (5,500 put to death in the Prayer Book Rebellion). Elizabeth racked up equally many deaths as Mary over religion in her reign as well. The winners write the history. Jane could have said a firm NO, but she was also determined not to allow a Catholic to inherit, a decision which swayed her judgment in the end.
@@guramile I always query the figure for Henry’s reign. I suspect that most of these were for criminal offences rather that political or religious offences. In which case Henry had nothing to do with them. It was the laws passed by Parliament and his judges who were responsible for these deaths.
She looks like Tim Burton's wife.
She was Tim Burton’s wife
Movie name?!?!!?
It's literally in the description!!! Lady Jane (1986)
@@leilaseditswhat is the story?!?!
Is that Helena Bonham Carter?
Yes! She was only 19 years old :)
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Where I can watch the full movie? Please help
myflixer.to/movie/lady-jane-897
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She looked like Emma Watson