James McAvoy is without doubt one of the finest actors of our time. He is deserving of multiple Oscar awards. Not only for his work in Atonement but also his work in Split. Masterful actor!
I love how she accepts the cigarette from her even though she is not a smoker... She's a begger here, she accepts anything from her estranged sister......
The actress who plays Briony as an eighteen year old nurse is magnificent. She even looks like a grown up Briony. What a performance throughout but especially in this heartbreaking scene.
Ironically, she thought she was doing good. She thought she was protecting Cecilia in a way. Of course she was also jealous. She was an 11 year old child and after reading the quite frankly vulgar letter Robbie wrote, a part of her wanted to “save” Cecilia. That is one of the reasons she gave them their happy ending in her book. Because of the insane guilt she feels for her actions as a child. She deprived two people of the love of their lives and their lives in general in a way. Who knows if Robbie would have been forced to war? Who knows if Cecilia would have been in that tunnel during the bombing if she had married Robbie?
@allshookup1640 Children don't really have the foresight to know the consequences of their actions, let alone severe consequences. It makes sense that they would be estranged, as devastating as that is. And it tormented her for the rest of her life. Writing it in her book was the only way she could apologize for what she did, though I doubt it really made her feel any better.
Poor thing, that never happened. Briony felt so bad about what she did when she was younger that she wrote the confrontation. They both actually died during the war so she never had the chance to talk to them and apologize and fix things, so she made that encounter up.
tbh reaaally honest, if this really would happen, robby will NEVER be so aggressive to briony, AND HE HAS ALL OF THE REASONS TO BE AGGRESSIVE TO HER, but he will never, this is what briony thought he will act and the way we wanted to act to her because of her guiltyness. If these really happend, robby would be mad at her, but then, he would feel sadness for her. Because robby saw briony like a little sister! The reaction of Cecilia is close enough to reality I thing 🤔
I just began the book and I see where you're coming from, but from the perspective of movie watchers, I disagree. He *saw* Briony as a little sister, yes, but he also saw that she would throw him away and let him rot in a jail for years. She threw away years of his life, and didn't think to tell the truth until she let the damage fully settle. But I also get where you're coming from. Honestly, because none of last scenes of Robbie and Cecilia truly happened and they were written by Briony, I bet she was beating herself up (and rightfully so) over all of it. I don't think if Robbie actually saw her and reacted that way, it'd be out of character for a man broken by false allegations, war, and a destroyed reputation. But even if it seems out of character, realizing it's Briony conveying things to herself, it makes sense to me. She came to terms with her past and realized she couldn't fix any of it (even if it was in a way I find was selfish) and wanted a future that Robbie and Cecilia could never have now that they both died. Anyways, I get your perspective and I'm open for conversation on Atonement! Sorry if anything I said didn't make sense, I wrote this very quickly haha
@@SofiaBelle117 No, its to the earlier main comment. "when you know you know". -- Cecelia says "come back to me" because this scene didn't really happen, it was in the narrator's mind. -- And "He sleeps so deeply" alludes to Robbie having already died -- But if you have already seen the move--you know. And when you know , you know
@@Circa1628 ah yes i can definitely see that interpretation. my interpretation of him saying that was that he had no reason not to sleep easy (or deeply) because he never did what Brienny accused of him of. But yes, I definitely misunderstood the comment. But also have a new way of looking at it - albeit an equally tragic one
@@SofiaBelle117they aren’t nearly as many men wrongly accused as there is men that get away with it. That’s why people are more prone to believe. Remember, the actual rap!st got away… because there was an actual r@pe.
System needs to be questioned. Why did everyone believe her? How does an upper-class girl can ruin a lower-class adult's life like this? And also who is a man that's studying to be doctor... Briony did wrong, but people wanted to believe it was Robbie, the police and everyone found it convenient, because otherwise it would mean that someone from the upper-class has committed this crime. McEwan critiques the system here more than anything. The classism is blatant.
@@Bjjbhcoa86the Victorian generations of Brits had a firmly ensconced social order class system in place. This guy was a convenient person to pin the deed on because the thought of an upperclass man as a rapist was just never going to fly.
@@Bjjbhcoa86 It does need to be questioned, but Briony has other issues. If you watch her throughout that scene, the way she looks at the bed, the way she looks at her sister and James McAvoy's character. She feels bad, but she's inspecting them with the curiosity of a writer. She's as much fascinated by the situation she created as she is regretful. Perhaps more so. Her closing claim that she "gave them an ending they didn't get in life", is a clever, probably self-deluded concealment of the truth - that, in the end, she couldn't resist. She did a terrible thing as a child - forgivable, provided the right conditions are met - and hatched an elaborate, creative plan to forgive herself after they were dead: she turned their lives into speculative art. The whole story is McEwan questioning the soul and the work of writers (or at least this one). The dual nature of what they do. The honesty and the dishonesty. Narcissism disguised as generosity, etc.
@@jon8004 I concluded that, from early on, she clung to her writing as a trap door that let her escape into a fantasy world, one where her action's consequences were erased. I found multiple atonements called for in this story. First, the unjustly denied atonement of the victim - seen from the viewers' eyes in discovery that accusations were ultimately false. Second, the need for society's atonement for institutionalized callousness and cruelty in its class system. Third, Briony's own atonement, over which she has no doubt obsessed throughout her lifetime, but only able to grasp at her life's end, and then only by disappearing via her dementia into a carefully built delusion of a happy ending. Her guilt is thereby erased, along with the destruction it caused. Vanessa does a great job with her eyes of communicating glimpses of such emotions, simply by subtle changes in focus, which the interviewer character simply doesn't seem to identify or is shocked by the flippancy and daring revisionism.. Remorse, pensiveness, shame, anger, curiosity, and, I believe, also relief that her mind's destruction will also simply permanently relieve her forever of those burdens.
Saoirse Ronan deserves all the praise she got for her work as the 13 year old Briony, but I cant believe I just noticed now how damn good the actress playing this adult version is as well, as fantastic as Keira and James. I have to watch this movie again soon.
@@bologna3464 I'm sure I'm not the only person who will spot a clip from a film I haven't seen, get intrigued by the clip and decide to watch the rest of the film. Its a pointless comment anyway, anyone who has seen the film will already know and just stating the obvious, those who haven't get spoiled.
The sad part is that she was a child. A child that wanted to believe something so she did and the twisted thing is blaming a child. Pretending like a 13 year old would actually know the truth. Worse yet are the comments. Most men jailed for assault ARE NOT innocent. The innocent ones are the few. The ones jailed at all for assault are hardly any of them. So out of the millions (yes millions) of men who rape on planet Earth at least once, the ones jailed are the ones who raped a woman who had the ability to have the power to put him in jail. Needless to say, this was such a sad ending.
First think out of Cecilia's mouth when Briony tells them who the real rapist is: "I don't believe you". Would they have believed her five years before when she identified the handsome, educated gentleman instead of the illiterate servant?
@ennuiblue4295 I'm talking about Danny, the servant that Cecilia and Robbie assumed did it, not Robbie. The aristocrats wouldn't want to believe that one of their own was the rapist, they'd want to blame the person lowest on the social ladder, and that's Danny.
Saoirse Ronan’s role in this movie left an indelible print on me similar to Danny Glover’s “Mister”. I’ve never been able to look at her the same again. 😢
Saoirse's brilliant acting was the reason I despised her for years, and I knew she was just playing a character but still. Watching her in Hanna and Brooklyn have rise to begrudging respect 😅 And now I look forward to all her films.
Her prison was knowing the immense harm she caused ... especially separating these two cherished lovers forever 💔 ... and I can only imagine thru time how many people in reality really were separated unjustly *
I hate how Briony looks ar them when they kiss. She's fetishizing their love, staring at them longing for the same for herself,like a serpent god I hate her
I am curious to hear people's interpretations! How do you interpret the way Briony looks at the bed and at Robbie and Cecilia together? and when she said "he sleeps so deeply" ? people I ask seem to have different answers.
My interpretation of the “sleeping so deeply” line, since this whole scene is something she made up for her book, she’s just imagining that Robbie and Cecilia were finally happy together and so he’s sleeping deeply because he’s finally at peace. But one interesting part of this scene which no one mentions is when she looks out the window and sees an old woman walking on the street and seems to have a reaction to that. I think maybe she was seeing herself in that old woman, or contemplating how maybe she’s doomed to die alone just like Robbie and C because she has denied herself the ability to love over the guilt she feels
@@joshuahenk3396 interesting! I wonder why she imagined Cecilia to say it in a sort of taunting way, though. and yes I forgot to bring up about the old woman but I agree with your thoughts there. or that they have/had love but she only has herself. what was the old lady pushing? thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Yeah...she did. In reality, they never met after he went to jail. Robbie died at Dunkirk due to infection, one day before they were finally evacuated. Celia died in London during the Blitz. Briony wanted to atone for her crime, but it was too late. So, she wrote them a happy ending but made herself the villain they never forgave
When I was younger all the boys I spoke to my sister would find and speak to them one of them she even met even though I was going to and another one i really really liked and had dreamed it all and everything but she took him too she can’t keep one man she loves male attention she even married a rich man and was divorced within 2 years , I’m happily married with my husband for more than 9 years now and even often she says to him you married the wrong sister 🙄🤦🏽♀️, luckily for me my husband he can see through her character and can see how disturbed she is
@@GByrne-qd3px how do you now this ? Between 20% and 40% of rape and sexual assault case ever make it to court, to the point where a court can make a ruling, so false accusations are often not about convicting you but about smearing your name, so how exactly do you know that it is rare.
@@VeeShenge according to an FBI study only 8% of allegations that are investigated turn out to be false. Most victims never report. I don't have the website about the FBI study, but if you're interested in reading it, you'll find it no problem as I did.
that's so damn dumb, she ruined his life, if you don't want her to be held accountable to her words, then why should her accusations matter to begin with? since "she's just 13".
Dude wtf he has every right to blame her. What kind of logic is this that women go through hardships so we shouldn’t be held accountable for our mistakes? Her mistake ruined someone’s life
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James McAvoy is without doubt one of the finest actors of our time. He is deserving of multiple Oscar awards. Not only for his work in Atonement but also his work in Split. Masterful actor!
TOTALLY AGREE! Horror flix are not a genre the award critics accept. Too bad! He's amazing in EVERYTHING I see him in! Atomic Blonde, fabulous!
The Last King of Scotland is a must-see.
He’s talented and beautiful. Love ❤️
It's been seventeen years and I'm still pissed that James McAvoy didn't receive an Oscar for this movie. He wasn't even nominated!
Yep babe ❤
Absolutely agree
The Oscar's are about Politics, not talent.
Do great work without needing to be recognized 💯
Neither for Split. Yeah Oscars are about politics.
I love how she accepts the cigarette from her even though she is not a smoker... She's a begger here, she accepts anything from her estranged sister......
🤯 I love this analysis!!!
why did he want the fat twins dead
This movie is heartbreaking but an absolute MASTERPIECE
MCAVOY is EXTRAORDINARY, look at it
Idk why I find it boring
@@Jeniffer61867 you never tasted real love?
The actress who plays Briony as an eighteen year old nurse is magnificent. She even looks like a grown up Briony. What a performance throughout but especially in this heartbreaking scene.
Sisters can make the worst enemies.
Not the good ones! Maybe the jealous ones
Yes
Yeah...
Ironically, she thought she was doing good. She thought she was protecting Cecilia in a way. Of course she was also jealous. She was an 11 year old child and after reading the quite frankly vulgar letter Robbie wrote, a part of her wanted to “save” Cecilia. That is one of the reasons she gave them their happy ending in her book. Because of the insane guilt she feels for her actions as a child. She deprived two people of the love of their lives and their lives in general in a way. Who knows if Robbie would have been forced to war? Who knows if Cecilia would have been in that tunnel during the bombing if she had married Robbie?
@allshookup1640 Children don't really have the foresight to know the consequences of their actions, let alone severe consequences. It makes sense that they would be estranged, as devastating as that is. And it tormented her for the rest of her life. Writing it in her book was the only way she could apologize for what she did, though I doubt it really made her feel any better.
A most painful lesson on how the wrong decision can have such devastating consequences and especially for our loved ones.
Poor thing, that never happened. Briony felt so bad about what she did when she was younger that she wrote the confrontation. They both actually died during the war so she never had the chance to talk to them and apologize and fix things, so she made that encounter up.
tbh reaaally honest, if this really would happen, robby will NEVER be so aggressive to briony, AND HE HAS ALL OF THE REASONS TO BE AGGRESSIVE TO HER, but he will never, this is what briony thought he will act and the way we wanted to act to her because of her guiltyness. If these really happend, robby would be mad at her, but then, he would feel sadness for her. Because robby saw briony like a little sister! The reaction of Cecilia is close enough to reality I thing 🤔
I just began the book and I see where you're coming from, but from the perspective of movie watchers, I disagree. He *saw* Briony as a little sister, yes, but he also saw that she would throw him away and let him rot in a jail for years. She threw away years of his life, and didn't think to tell the truth until she let the damage fully settle.
But I also get where you're coming from. Honestly, because none of last scenes of Robbie and Cecilia truly happened and they were written by Briony, I bet she was beating herself up (and rightfully so) over all of it. I don't think if Robbie actually saw her and reacted that way, it'd be out of character for a man broken by false allegations, war, and a destroyed reputation. But even if it seems out of character, realizing it's Briony conveying things to herself, it makes sense to me. She came to terms with her past and realized she couldn't fix any of it (even if it was in a way I find was selfish) and wanted a future that Robbie and Cecilia could never have now that they both died.
Anyways, I get your perspective and I'm open for conversation on Atonement! Sorry if anything I said didn't make sense, I wrote this very quickly haha
"Look at me...Come back, come back to me"...When you know, you know😢❤
" He sleeps so deeply"
@@Circa1628 because he was innocent, like so many men falsely accused
@@SofiaBelle117 No, its to the earlier main comment. "when you know you know".
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Cecelia says "come back to me" because this scene didn't really happen, it was in the narrator's mind.
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And "He sleeps so deeply" alludes to Robbie having already died
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But if you have already seen the move--you know. And when you know , you know
@@Circa1628 ah yes i can definitely see that interpretation. my interpretation of him saying that was that he had no reason not to sleep easy (or deeply) because he never did what Brienny accused of him of. But yes, I definitely misunderstood the comment. But also have a new way of looking at it - albeit an equally tragic one
@@SofiaBelle117they aren’t nearly as many men wrongly accused as there is men that get away with it. That’s why people are more prone to believe. Remember, the actual rap!st got away… because there was an actual r@pe.
I have never hated a character more in my life than I have hated Briony
System needs to be questioned. Why did everyone believe her? How does an upper-class girl can ruin a lower-class adult's life like this? And also who is a man that's studying to be doctor... Briony did wrong, but people wanted to believe it was Robbie, the police and everyone found it convenient, because otherwise it would mean that someone from the upper-class has committed this crime. McEwan critiques the system here more than anything. The classism is blatant.
@@Bjjbhcoa86the Victorian generations of Brits had a firmly ensconced social order class system in place. This guy was a convenient person to pin the deed on because the thought of an upperclass man as a rapist was just never going to fly.
@@Bjjbhcoa86 It does need to be questioned, but Briony has other issues. If you watch her throughout that scene, the way she looks at the bed, the way she looks at her sister and James McAvoy's character. She feels bad, but she's inspecting them with the curiosity of a writer. She's as much fascinated by the situation she created as she is regretful. Perhaps more so. Her closing claim that she "gave them an ending they didn't get in life", is a clever, probably self-deluded concealment of the truth - that, in the end, she couldn't resist. She did a terrible thing as a child - forgivable, provided the right conditions are met - and hatched an elaborate, creative plan to forgive herself after they were dead: she turned their lives into speculative art. The whole story is McEwan questioning the soul and the work of writers (or at least this one). The dual nature of what they do. The honesty and the dishonesty. Narcissism disguised as generosity, etc.
Youve never really understood the movie then
@@jon8004 I concluded that, from early on, she clung to her writing as a trap door that let her escape into a fantasy world, one where her action's consequences were erased. I found multiple atonements called for in this story. First, the unjustly denied atonement of the victim - seen from the viewers' eyes in discovery that accusations were ultimately false. Second, the need for society's atonement for institutionalized callousness and cruelty in its class system. Third, Briony's own atonement, over which she has no doubt obsessed throughout her lifetime, but only able to grasp at her life's end, and then only by disappearing via her dementia into a carefully built delusion of a happy ending. Her guilt is thereby erased, along with the destruction it caused. Vanessa does a great job with her eyes of communicating glimpses of such emotions, simply by subtle changes in focus, which the interviewer character simply doesn't seem to identify or is shocked by the flippancy and daring revisionism.. Remorse, pensiveness, shame, anger, curiosity, and, I believe, also relief that her mind's destruction will also simply permanently relieve her forever of those burdens.
This is my favourite film! James Mcavoy in this role is great! ❤
That face! Dear God has there ever been a more beautiful man?
dhamm, if i dont get compliments like this i dont want it .. xdd
Yes
Alain Delon
He is so gorgeous
Andrew Tate ❤
@@alisyasashin 🤢🤮
THE ACTING OH MY GOD. The chemistry between James and Kiera.
Saoirse Ronan deserves all the praise she got for her work as the 13 year old Briony, but I cant believe I just noticed now how damn good the actress playing this adult version is as well, as fantastic as Keira and James. I have to watch this movie again soon.
This didnt really happen, this is what she wished because she was overwhelmed by guilt
When you find out this isn't real that's when you know how devastating that really that the last time you heard them their dead
It broke me 😭
Briony herself has an obsession with Robbie, therefore she wanted to break them.
I hope James McAvoy's wife knows how unbelievably lucky she is to get to wake up to THAT face every morning.
That dialogue
If you have seen the movie then you know that this scene did not really happen. It is just from Briony’s imagination.
Spoilers but okay
It’s nice to flag spoilers
And if you haven’t seen the movie. Just forget the first post eh?
@@IBeMelissaWhy are you watching clips of movies if you don’t want spoilers
@@bologna3464 I'm sure I'm not the only person who will spot a clip from a film I haven't seen, get intrigued by the clip and decide to watch the rest of the film. Its a pointless comment anyway, anyone who has seen the film will already know and just stating the obvious, those who haven't get spoiled.
The sad part is that she was a child. A child that wanted to believe something so she did and the twisted thing is blaming a child. Pretending like a 13 year old would actually know the truth.
Worse yet are the comments. Most men jailed for assault ARE NOT innocent. The innocent ones are the few. The ones jailed at all for assault are hardly any of them. So out of the millions (yes millions) of men who rape on planet Earth at least once, the ones jailed are the ones who raped a woman who had the ability to have the power to put him in jail.
Needless to say, this was such a sad ending.
I’m sorry but a 13 year old would know the truth.
Oh, to believe all 13 y.os are made equal! This heffa is an example of the darkness within some. Couldnt/cant stand this character.
@@Bibirallie You are right and moreover I think she was jelous. She wasn't an innocent soul.
The girl was not innocent. At all.
This movie is Atonement.
Excellent, but heartbreaking.
If you saw it this scene didnt happen. Itwas inher imagination
First think out of Cecilia's mouth when Briony tells them who the real rapist is: "I don't believe you". Would they have believed her five years before when she identified the handsome, educated gentleman instead of the illiterate servant?
'illiterate'? he says right in this video he was educated, just of a lower class
@ennuiblue4295 I'm talking about Danny, the servant that Cecilia and Robbie assumed did it, not Robbie. The aristocrats wouldn't want to believe that one of their own was the rapist, they'd want to blame the person lowest on the social ladder, and that's Danny.
Saoirse Ronan’s role in this movie left an indelible print on me similar to Danny Glover’s “Mister”.
I’ve never been able to look at her the same again. 😢
It was her first movie.
She was 13 years old..she's excellent!
Saoirse's brilliant acting was the reason I despised her for years, and I knew she was just playing a character but still. Watching her in Hanna and Brooklyn have rise to begrudging respect 😅
And now I look forward to all her films.
This isn’t Saorise Ronan, this is Romola Garai.
Her prison was knowing the immense harm she caused ... especially separating these two cherished lovers forever 💔 ... and I can only imagine thru time how many people in reality really were separated unjustly *
Wonderful scene from a great movie.
I hate how Briony looks ar them when they kiss. She's fetishizing their love, staring at them longing for the same for herself,like a serpent god I hate her
Oh, be quiet. She was a human being too.
I thought it was the look of guilt because this is what she destroyed
It’s been years but still cannot forgive briony😅😅
I am curious to hear people's interpretations! How do you interpret the way Briony looks at the bed and at Robbie and Cecilia together? and when she said "he sleeps so deeply" ? people I ask seem to have different answers.
My interpretation of the “sleeping so deeply” line, since this whole scene is something she made up for her book, she’s just imagining that Robbie and Cecilia were finally happy together and so he’s sleeping deeply because he’s finally at peace. But one interesting part of this scene which no one mentions is when she looks out the window and sees an old woman walking on the street and seems to have a reaction to that. I think maybe she was seeing herself in that old woman, or contemplating how maybe she’s doomed to die alone just like Robbie and C because she has denied herself the ability to love over the guilt she feels
@@joshuahenk3396 interesting! I wonder why she imagined Cecilia to say it in a sort of taunting way, though.
and yes I forgot to bring up about the old woman but I agree with your thoughts there. or that they have/had love but she only has herself. what was the old lady pushing? thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Did she write it down? Someone tell me what happens 😅
Yeah...she did. In reality, they never met after he went to jail. Robbie died at Dunkirk due to infection, one day before they were finally evacuated. Celia died in London during the Blitz. Briony wanted to atone for her crime, but it was too late. So, she wrote them a happy ending but made herself the villain they never forgave
@@Furrina89They met once? Where she gave the picture to him? Or it just she wrote it?
I never really get that part ,the cafe scene where they meet up really happened or it was just briony imagination@@kwonxxx5637
None of this matters because it never happened...
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When I was younger all the boys I spoke to my sister would find and speak to them one of them she even met even though I was going to and another one i really really liked and had dreamed it all and everything but she took him too she can’t keep one man she loves male attention she even married a rich man and was divorced within 2 years , I’m happily married with my husband for more than 9 years now and even often she says to him you married the wrong sister 🙄🤦🏽♀️, luckily for me my husband he can see through her character and can see how disturbed she is
when I find out this was all a lie that's when I get really mad of her
But erm...
*spoiler*
....alas.... this didn't happen 😢
For all the men who are falsely accused. And condemned because they are men.
Thank God that it rarely happens.
@@GByrne-qd3px No its not rare. it is very common place
@@VeeShenge Nope, it's rare.
@@GByrne-qd3px how do you now this ? Between 20% and 40% of rape and sexual assault case ever make it to court, to the point where a court can make a ruling, so false accusations are often not about convicting you but about smearing your name, so how exactly do you know that it is rare.
@@VeeShenge according to an FBI study only 8% of allegations that are investigated turn out to be false. Most victims never report. I don't have the website about the FBI study, but if you're interested in reading it, you'll find it no problem as I did.
She felt quilt but no shame!
4:20 WAH.
Victim blaming a 13 year old. Dude... men are so emotional. You know what women go thru? We have to deal wirh these losers.
that's so damn dumb, she ruined his life, if you don't want her to be held accountable to her words, then why should her accusations matter to begin with? since "she's just 13".
and the fck you mean victim blaming, she's not a fking victim, he is, you are in fact victim blaming him for having an emotional reaction.
and the fck you mean victim blaming, she's not a fking victim, he is, you are in fact victim blaming him for having an emotional reaction.
Dude wtf he has every right to blame her. What kind of logic is this that women go through hardships so we shouldn’t be held accountable for our mistakes? Her mistake ruined someone’s life
what? I am a woman and definitely a feminist but Robbie's troubles were horrible and nothing to invalidate!