Douglas Murray: The problems of politically correct policing | SpectatorTV
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- Douglas Murray tells the Spectator's news editor John Connolly about the fallout from his column in last week's magazine. Why is he in trouble with the police?
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Shocking response from senior Police officers - Threating journalists who dare to criticise Police who we taxpayers finance - with assault and arrest!
Unbelievable and they should apologize. They are public servants and have no business threatening anyone.
@@emac1968 Wrong. The Police serve the Crown!
Thanks for this clarification. However the rules of any public body still apply. All public bodies must act intra vires and I would suggest that threatening anyone who is merely acting in their right to free speech is not part of their powers. It would be interesting to get a legal view on this. I think we can agree these statements to the journalist are worrying.
I remember Terry Pratchett first writing, comically, about the first people who wanted to be police.
They offered to chase thieves and beat them up for us, to save us the trouble.
I've always though this was a good idea. Really - this is all I want to pay for.
Its unbelievable the way our government and our police act these days! I'm old now but can remember when t both were there to protect the citizens. I'm in the states and it's the same here. Everyone should be very afraid of our government and law enforcement . God! the world has gone mad. Be careful Douglas as you can not trust anyone.
Douglas Murray, hitting the commonsense ball out of the park. That man is a joy to listen to, well done for telling the truth.
Agreed !
Pity he's not running Britain.
Lying is against common sense.
Murray lies too much
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An absolute joy to listen to!
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Douglas Murray is a man first and a gay man a distant second. Apart from superior education and intellect, this is what sets him apart. Douglas is a treasure gotta love him, yeah?
If my old dad was alive today he'd say to Douglas: "You're a scholar and a gentleman, there aren't many of us left!".
DM - absolutely bang on the money, yet again. I take my hat off to you, sir.
I'm sure your late father also respected the truth, and would dismiss Douglas Murray for lying.
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When Douglas Murray claims to start feeling “homophobic” you know something, somewhere has gone horribly, horribly wrong.
Why is he gay?
I'm sure if we just vote in a Conservative government this would stop.
Lol
There are gay people who lead basically normal lives and just happen to be gay. Then there are "queer" people whose entire lives revolve around telling everyone how queer they are, even if they can't define exactly what it means.
@@evolassunglasses4673 they are all in the same club and the regular folks are not members.
@@evolassunglasses4673 There's nothing, absolutely nothing, conservative about the conservative party these days. Just look at the make-up of the cabinet! Look at their policies! They're liberals, is what they are.
Well said Douglas !
Douglas, that was wonderful. I’m a retired police officer and you have expressed the view of most of us.
Well, how is it the cream of the crop (of police) has risen to the top? How is it the dross appears to be ensconced in the big offices and making showy remarks on TV?
That's extremely Reassuring, Thanks! I hoped that was the case .
You must be so ashamed of what the police force has lowered itself to you have my sympathy
Theres a common ideological thread that seems linked to so much of societies current woes - policing policy, energy policy, public health policies, pandemic response policies, freedom of speech governance, agricultural policies.
Seems unlikely we'll ever publicly acknowledge the root cause - most are blissfully ignorant.
We're all Kulaks now.
'We didn't love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.'
*-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago*
@@paperclip612 that's how the promotion system works. Inadequate idiots promote even more inadequate idiots so that they never have to compete for the available jobs. There's no way of circumventing the politics. The elites look after their own. They won't accept any threat to themselves by allowing a dissenting (common sense or capable) opinion reaching the same rank as them.
Sir David Thompson shows us the true nature of high level police officers. He should be ashamed of his behaviour and ought to apologise publicly for his disgraceful comments towards Douglas.
What an utterly petty man (I assume he identifies as one?).
Probably identifies as merely petty, non-binary, and ever-ready to dance for crowds.
Indolent Pratt describes him well!!
Threatening any individual by top police officers should be a disciplinary offence surely. They must feel very secure
They should be jailed for abuse of power and intimidating, threatening, behavior
Alan, I was thinking the same thing. The British Police- because they couldn't take Murray's honest, acid pen- said they would wrestle him to the ground if he came near them. Alan, is my summary of this incident accurate?
I thought threatening people with violence was an actual crime? At least in the USA?
I am 67 years old and living in some sort of nightmare. I grew up in the 60's on a council estate in the North West of England and was told every day, by my parents, about right and wrong and showing respect to my elders; police, teachers etc. I'm not sure they would comprehend what has happened to our police force today, simply not fit for purpose.
The current police force are those whose PARENTS DID NOT din into them the values of RIGHT AND WRONG.
Yes i was bought up the same. Didn't take me too long to realise I was living in a different and fast changing world to my parents one. Corruption is everywhere, in every sense on the word.
Likewise (although I grew up in different circumstances!); as a child of the 50s I am totally bemused & terrified by the current state of Great Britain. We were a country the world looked to for leadership but I’d be very surprised if that still truly obtained. We have squandered and surrendered our stature by pandering to the most lunatic ideas ever to have come out of the Soviet Union & the COMINTERN. As commented elsewhere, Yuri Besmenov (KGB defector & whistle-blower) explains this perfectly: the Soviets & their successors cannot have ever dreamt that their stratagems could have such incredible success! If only they’d realised that their place-men and sleepers had penetrated right to the heart of our society and perverted even the highest echelons!
Thank you Douglas Murray. Just b*dy thank you. We are beyond sick of the way policing has gone in Britain, something desperately need sorting out. He is right, the Tories could be facing their last term at this rate.
The real problem with policing is the Tory austerity policy which slashed police numbers and removed many experienced officers. But ofc Douglas Murray would rather talk about "political correctness" and "wokeness" than that
Come on Liz Truss. Make a palpable difference.
I think the yanks had something right about the whole second amendment thing
@@paperclip612 how did you rate her premiership?
There’s no such thing as too much Douglas Murray. More please! He’s a shining light in a world of dark, murky woke.
He really needs his own show on primetime mainstream TV. Won't happen though.
There is such a thing as too much lying though
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I see him more as a grotesque individual.
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@@martingodden613 I'm not going to let the views of a Russian apologist over one article overshadow the views expressed in several books, numerous articles and interviews that I have read and seen.
I love Douglas! It's not just incompetence, this behaviour from the police doesn't signal virtue, it signals to women that we're not safe with the police.
Indeed. Sarah Everard and the young girls of towns across the country found out the hard way.
@@Martin-88 Not to mention the large number of down n' outs the cowardly bullies have beat and kicked to death with impunity over the decades as well. Force ALL on-duty coppers to wear body cams with feed to independent commissions.
because half of them are women
Females are a liability in the police force, army and fire brigade,, they make everyone less safe in the name of'equality' when their standards are lower than mens, hence lowering the quality of the force, they aint as strong, female officers are feeble
@@GreenMorningDragonProductions Police gone Woke ie Intersectional Feminism is making the rules now lol and destroying the West
I was in London recently during the late Queen's funeral week and it was remarkable how many police were about, but what struck me was how many of them were very young, very short and quite overweight female police officers.
We have fallen a long way from Dixon of Dock Green unfortunately.
But the Deputy Chief Constable of West Midlands Police (he/him) said his officers that menstruate could put Mr Murray on his backside?!
100% Jane. I was working up there and there was literally hundreds of them, the vast majority of whom were scruffy, unkempt and most importantly in terrible physical shape. Lots of them were slouching, while on their phones, and they generally gave the impression of being slovenly.
Agree that the physical standards of 'the police' appear to have dropped alarmingly. Considering the 'modern day' preoccupation/obsession with running and gym going members of the police appear to be seriously unfit. And the Dixon of Dock Green example of manner is long gone but not forgotten - and mourned!
Welcome to modern recruiting standards, and a generation of wet graduates.
Douglas Murray is a treasure
Thank you for raising these issues. What a shocking state of affairs. The Police need to return to traditional Policing fast!
What percentage of the policing activity is policing woke issues?
Shame he lies a lot
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@@olifisher4182 In volume not many but the amount of time and resources spent on low level Public Order or Mal Comms offences is excessive considering many do not result in much.
@@peeler8232 i agree police time is wasted on mal comms often but much of that has been at the direction of govt. Common Assault wasnt even recorded as a crime years ago. Each time a govt knee jerks to a flash in the pan stirred up by the press, more needless offences are created that need recording and investigating. BUT I maintain that "woke" activity is miniscule and not in responsible for the collapse in performance. That rests squarely with the tories. Quite why Murray worries about this being the last tory home sec, when its the tories that are responsible, is anyone's guess
Well said Douglas. I hope the new home secretary was watching. This has got to change.
But this doesn't seem like a bug, this seems a lot like a feature. Yuri Besmenov explains this process beautifully.
Were building back better™️ with a hard lurch to the ideological side of politics that explains a lot of these policy decisions.
Didn't you ever wonder why Herr Schwab has a bust of Lenin on the shelf of his office?
Who were those folks that idolised Lenin?
Douglas making sense as always!
Astonishingly undignified response from West Midlands Police.
Thank You… I love Douglas Murray… I have for years. He is ONLY Brilliant!!!
Go for it Douglas I'm with you all the way on this. Those disgraceful excuses for police officers who tried to intimidate you should be slung out on their rainbow-coloured ears. Every other senior police officer in the country should be told to get on with catching proper criminals, patrol the streets, protect the innocent, or get out and become a political activist or a social worker. What's it to be!!
Political activists are just utter weeds.
Douglas absolutely right, as usual.
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Attributed to Thomas Jefferson
Though lots of ppl on YT want to have a police force of hardened ex-military who baton first and ask questions later..as long as its XR and lefties, of course
@@vanpallandt5799 nah, just want them to have a half way normal brain that they aren't afraid to use
@@vanpallandt5799 I want peace but peace only comes through deterrence, free speech and trade.
Douglas Murray is BRILLIANT.
2 years ago I called the police because people over the road from me were arguing and one threatened to burn the others house down while she and her kids slept in it (both women involved) I recorded all of this in 4k with sound because I thought it would be important evidence. I'm still waiting for the police to get that evidence, I left my name, my address, phone number and email address... nothing. A recorded threat to 4 lives and they didn't think it was important. 3 months after this one of the women stabbed the other, should have said they're from the enrichment community, the police might have turned up if it had be racial.
Did one person misgender the other? No? Bah, not a crime.
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ hahaha. Funnily enough they were arguing because one of the women had stolen the girlfriend of the other. Both women have kids and they've managed to raise them horribly; rude, unaware or don't care about people's personal property and the clear boundary a fence implies. I've caught them in our garden, trying to nick our stuff before. One of them broke into my neighbours house when he was 11 years old, my neighbour is an 80+ year old woman who lives alone, the kind of person we are supposed to care for and be considerate of, these kids haven't been taught any of that. We had to get a C.C.T.V. system to protect our garden and the property we have in it, not that the police would care if something was stolen.
@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 That’s sad. Surely you should complain that no action was taken on the first complaint, three months before the actual physical attack.
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ oh I've complained mate, I even went to my M.P. about it, I even went as far as sending him a copy of the video I'd recorded. First I sent it attached to an email but got no reply so I sent it recorded post on a DVD as it was the only way I could check on that he had received the disc. I he got it, or at least his office did, still no response. I'd argue that I've made my self a pain in the rear over this, I shouldn't have had to but when one doesn't feel listened to regarding a serious incident they tend to become more extreme. I believe I've done us much as is reasonably warranted, maybe even stepped outside of that, but it was necessary as it was a serious incident, a threat to life, but no one in authority cares. If the police had taken this evidence in a timely manner children may not have had to witness another person getting hurt like that but it seems its just another day in the office these days.
@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 I guess the rainbow community aren’t capable of wrong doing then. Hi ho.
That conclusion by Douglas for Braverman, was so, so accurate, in every way. I am not holding my breath that she will respond as requested - but you never know. One thing is certain, she will be the last Conservative (sic) HS in a very long time, if they don't belatedly get a grip.
Well spoken Douglas.
And then what? Will the Labour Party fix it?
Come on WE THE PEOPLE, DEMAND BETTER.
I mean if this is accurate I don’t see how they can’t be fired for literally threatening physical violence or incarceration for no crime.
Because that would mean their own system arresting them, prosecuting and judging them which would never happen.
'He would find LGBT officers more than capable of putting him on his backside!' As a gay man, there's only one interpretation I'M putting on that statement, and I'm sure DM has thought the same thing of it!! Carry On Constable!!! (In all seriousness though, the police are nothing but a woke joke.)
Maybe he can booby trap his rear, just in case, Jessica Rabbit-style.
You should pop down your local crown court, butty. They are not empty and dealing with normally only indictable matters, not full of hurt feelings or speeding matters🏴🇺🇦
@@vanpallandt5799 Thank you for taking the time to reply. It is much appreciated.
@@iwasglad122 no problem..the Liverpool Echo and Manchester Evening News has court cases of drugs trafficking, armed robberies every week. And tbh, most of the folk are not in case of that part of world, immigrants
Literally nothing but? So the child protection teams, the fraud teams, the murder teams, the gang teams, the domestic abuse teams - all a woke joke.
Mr Murray - I deeply appreciate your courage and honesty - God bless you
Well said Douglas. I always appreciate your views. It proves that there are still sane people amongst us.
Douglas is a pure racist. Nice to see you down with such people
His pronouns are useless and idiot
Phenomenal! Thank you Douglas Murray. You are performing an extremely important function.
Love this guy . I'm a big fan .
Well said Douglas. The rot at the top has to be ruthlessly cut out and a challenge given to all police that solving crime must be undertaken or further heads will roll. I want police to be respected for what they do, not for their political stance.
As always Douglas is spot on.
Well said Douglas...on political deaf ears no doubt but needs saying everyday open and loudly!
every day
The police threatened violence and arrest without legal cause or reason.
Disgraceful behaviour from the police.
Douglas is such a brilliant chap! Thank you sir!
The British police have been a joke for decades performance related pay was one of the early mistakes which has led to a snowballing of failure after failure due to prioritisation of the wrong things.
Joke for decades?..maybe you have not visited much of the rest of the world, cariad, to get their views🏴 . Lots of countries envy the constable model where they have paramilitary forces andcbig corruption issues. And i see lots of ppl calling for more PRP, not less. Sheehy was binned off in terms of differential role payments but PRP for individuals if fair..otherwise you have what are called 'uniform carriers' (a carrier also being a police van for personnel transport)
@@vanpallandt5799 I don’t care what other countries do I am talking about the failures here if other countries envy our police force they are insane since our police force is now a police service and has also gone insane.
One week ago, 23 September 2022, I spent several hours sat in Bloxwich police station (West Midlands police force), and watched how up to five police officers spent one and a half hours dealing with one drunk, middle aged man. How many people were expecting, hoping the police in and around the Walsall area to attend an urgent call, were kept waiting by one drunk man?
Finally, the gloves are off! Ive waited years for right thinking members of the 4th Estate to say what they really think, without couching their words, and here at last we have it. Thank you, Douglas; well done The Spectator.
For every wokeflake police commissioner there are, at least, 20 up-and-coming, highly capable dedicated, successors just waiting for the opportunity to dump this insanity.
When a service such as the police stop hiring the smartest & the brightest these are problems we the people have endure
True.
It's a race to the bottom.
The smartest go for accelerated promotion; the ones at the bottom are in the main not that bright.
@@barneybiggles accelerated promotion so they can spend their lives behind a desk dreaming about how great their lives are going to be when they retire on a fat pension. That’s not going to help Mrs. Goggings who’s being hit over the head for her handbag in the high street at 6pm on a dark winter’s evening.
LOVE Douglas Murray!
Douglas always speaks so much sense, the vast majority of people in the UK are sickened by the actions of our woke police. Stop posturing and catch some bloody criminals
the vast majority? any statistics?
You speak for no one but yourself
@@yetidodger6650 yes in a recent YouGov survey 77% of those asked, sounds like a vast majority to me
@@ianhewitson2738 myself and the other 77% of people
Where is this going? Where does.it end.Our police force is making itself a laughing stock, albeit a dangerous one.
I am sorry for my friends in the United Kingdom. This behavior from senior police officials in any commonwealth nation (the birthplace of the common law) is an outrage. Wishing my friends in the UK the very best.
- Arlington, Virginia, USA
Well said except look at the state of police forces in the USA!
@@paperclip612 What's even worse than that are "woke" prosecutors letting people who've committed very serious crimes right back on the street.
Is that really the best response the Chief Constables could come up with?, If the cap fits... Keep reminding them of their duties DM.
Journalist writes an article criticising the police. In response, the police threaten to assault him and arrest him. No, this didn't happen in Saudia Arabia, or China, or Russia. It happened in the UK.
I loved his book the Strange death of Europe especially the end where he named who are responsible for it.
The little hat club
If you make yourself ridiculous, you should expect to be ridiculed. Excellent point displaying sharp self awareness.
Yes, it's funny how Douglas Murray believed Saddam had nuclear weapons and was the biggest threat to world security and he still deserves to be ridiculed for it.
@@robertely686 woke people and their ilk need to be extinguished from this world.
I wonder why trust in the police is at an all time low. And if it will go even lower.
Answers to the Home Secretary asap.
This is exactly what we need to be sorting out, thanks Douglas Murray
The reason the Police responded in such a manner is because they are ashamed of their behaviour and rightly so. They need to be brought to heel and recommence Policing without fear or favour as opposed to politicising their job. We really need a Home Secretary to sort this out. Totally agree with your analysis Mr Murray.
Thank you Douglas.
Hahaha the thought of Mr Murray being “dobbed” in by the “thought police” is hilarious. Keep doing what you do Douglas, thank you for your journalism.
Criticise the police about not caring about burglaries and they are not fussed. Criticise their wokeism though, and they go berserk.
Thank you Mr Murray, as always common sense, eloquently and concisely put.
Yes, thank you Douglas. I have never enjoyed a YT video of this kind so much as hearing you speaking here. Magnificent balls. I know someone who has to drive through that area, coughs, and now approaches it rather tremulously. M.
Tick for DM as always.
I love Douglas Murray’s constrained fury!
Well said Douglas, as always. Bravo. 👏👏
Brilliant Douglas ❤️
Once again Douglas is spot on!! Brilliant analysis as always. Let the police ....police!
I was senior police officer at intrnational level and this chief constable is a disgrace.
WAS being the operative word.
Where have all the good police gone?
Bravo Douglas! A sane voice in a country gone mad with wokery
I would like to hear what "proper police officers" think of all the wokery their "leaders" compel them to suffer by association.
There are rolled eyes, curses and wary comments of 'is this on audio?' when conversing, as well as some side-eye to the new recruits who are sometimes grasses if someone says something that could be misinterpreted. Not popular at all, except among a small minority.
They can't talk out, they would be fired instantly. We need 50s policing, tough strong officers, ex military, who won't take any shit.
Are there any left?
Hopefully Britain is not going the way of the USA and their De-fund the police idiocy. As an aside Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida has just issued this warning to would-be looters of devastated homes - "You loot - WE Shoot".
Good show Governor!
Brilliantly said Douglas! ❤ The topic of your next book has just been delivered to you on a tray with watercress 'round! An exposè on the British Police!
Perhaps more Douglas Murray types need to be running for office.
Excellent insight from Mr Murray as always. His damning indictment of today's policing is the force's own doing.
The sane amongst us stand alongside Douglas Murray
Douglas is a savage, I love him.
OMG !! How the hell has this happened to our great country !! These people are a disgrace to the police force !! I fear for my children’s future 😞 Keep up the great work Douglas. We need your voice right now.
More DISCIPLINE IN SCHOOLS AND .....Bring back the cane - supervised of course.
My generation lived with that discipline and from all these comments was a better generation than what is happening today.
Well said Douglas we need more people like you……When I was young we used to look up to the police , What the hell is going on they need to grow up and get on with the job…they are like a lot of silly young girls………
Yes. Well said. Thank you.
Douglas Murray is a great Man !
Thank the good Lord for men like Douglas Murray with his common sense and well-spoken dialogs on these subjects. Aren't the police ashamed of their actions? It not, they should be.
Absolutely right, Douglas; simply staggering.
Douglas Murray, one of the bravest, most evenhanded and diligent thinkers of our time. He has consistently been a compassionate a reasonable and logical voice since 2013 (and previously). When it was the most dangerous and risky to do so , which it still is, he has stood up, not for “his tribe” or “his group” but for the good of our western culture and society. Thank you for the continued work that you do and the inspiration you give.
As usual Douglas your the voice of reason and sanity in an unreasonable and insane world
One of the best put downs ever. How they must wish that stupid letter was not sent 😂
The behaviour of the police towards Douglas Murray is disgusting and abject. All decent people must demonstrate open contempt for our police service.
Thank God for Douglass Murray ❤
Douglas Murray is always a gentleman and I respect him so much. He defines the sensible line on some matters IMHO.
I love Douglas.
Douglas, whenever you speak, I feel a little hope trickle in. You are a national treasure. Thankyou.
As always Douglas, you are a man of clear and penetrating truth, god bless you my friend!
Douglas Murray needs to be PM.
AGREE!
Hes right about the police, I live in west midlands and recently my family member had all their expensive bikes stolen, police did literally nothing. My friends car got scratched up £1000s worth of damage, we know who did it, we literally have footage of it but it was at a B&B and the police never did anything about it. We just stopped getting a response.
So what exactly do the police do?
Douglas always hits the nail on the head. What the police said to you, very much upsets me. Can we send someone to check their thinking?
Well said as always Mr. Murray.
Perhaps Suella Braverman should hire Douglas Murray as an adviser. The Tories don't have a unifying philosophy any more and they need to rediscover their roots. Hiring Murray would be a good place to start.
Douglas Murray you are my Hero. One of the very few willing to call it what it is - Bravo!
The pièce de résistance was saying, sack those two woesy coppers. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
As usual DM articulates with great clarity the issues of the day. This time going to the very heart of (the lack of) law and order in this country.
Douglas is a brave man.
👏🏾
It was well established and documented in mainstream journalism (including the BBC) and in a formal investigation by Parliament that a major reason why the massive Rotherham rape/grooming scandal did not come to light before there were well over a thousand victims was that the police and social service agencies were afraid to act for fear of being accused of racism; all the perps were Islamic men. Multiple people at various levels admitted to this, and it was absolutely accepted as the reason for the reluctant police response: Wokeism and fear of being called "racist" were major factors allowing these crimes to continue on a mass scale for years. Nothing else ever need be said about the dangers of woke attitudes within the police in Britain.
Absolutely 💯. Islamism is a blight - worldwide!
I don’t want the police to be doing anything but catching criminals and keeping the peace without fear or favour. Special treatment is not required for anyone.
Not on mainstream media....
Shocked....
Douglas Murray: so on the right side of history. Says he is in danger of becoming a homophobe! Searingly witty, simply brilliant.
Douglas Murray is exemplary. Integrity is rare in the media these days.
The only thing that get’s the Police off their backsides these days are hurt feelings including their own it seems.
Bloody he'll Douglas, you always talk complete sense. I can listen to you for hours. What in Christ,s name is going on with the police these days. By the way, in these cash strapped days, it was interesting to see a job advert for our Welsh council, for a diversity and inclusion officer, salary c £45k pa. WTF is happening.
None of this stuff is going to stop until everyone realizes what idiocy is wrapped up in the mantra LGBTQWRSTIFG.......Z
The police always go for the soft targets!