@Sean Wilkinson Very practical!If it was Star Wars, it would just be a generic ship but with a paint job like a red stripe. No effort or depth to design a unique medical ship. In the movies the Rebellion's medical ship was a repurposed Nebulon B frigate.
Sean Wilkinson Sure, the spherical design looks peaceful, but if you’re responding to a medical emergency in the middle of a Romulan battle, I don’t think it’ll make you less likely to be hit...
The sphere might accommodate omnidirectional transporter beams or even maximized surface for medical shuttle bays with minimized paths to inner medical wards. A big hospital isn't much use without an ambulance fleet.
Knew almost all of them but I'd forgotten about the Raven. Though to be honest it seems sorta like a runabout class or predecessor or something like that based on it's general size and look
@@MrGoesBoom my guess is that it' s more like a small freighter, kinda bigger than a runabout or a yellowston, but not as big as a normal FCA o Bolian model
Freedom-class? USS Franklin? I thought the Franklin was unique? And the Freedom-class is a ONE engined ship from the TNG era, seen in "Best of Both Worlds..."
I had always hated the design of the Olympic class in Star Trek... until I flew one in Star Trek Online, and now I love the look of it! Seeing it in 3D worked for some reason.
I didn't know there is actually an Olympic class ship that big ball can be a hospital section i thought that makes sense instead of square or rectangle shapes like most haspital
The Nova-class ship was more heavily armed and armored than the Oberth-class. Considering that the Oberth we saw in Search for Spock got taken out by a single hit from a Klingon Bird of Prey, that doesn't seem like a very high watermark.
both the Wells class & USS Voyager can be adapted as a realistic spacecraft in real life using present technological advancements . . . one that can transport humans to Mars . . .
Does anyone know what kind of monthly payment and interest rate of Gold Pressed Latnum the Raven Class ship would run a guy at Ricks Starship Mall? I'd like to also get the holo emitters installed on the common area decks and my quarters with access to both a emergency medical hologram, as well as the new emergency waifu hologram for those longer lonely voyages.
What about the Olympic class's forerunner the Daedalus they were ment to be the backbone of the federation fleet from before the NX class right up to the kirk era yet you hardly see any of the them
Star Trek Online has most, if not all of those ships and the option to buy actual models of ships you get in the game and customize. I've never done it myself, so I really don't know if they are quality or not but the game itself is free to play.
@@abcmole oh wow I did not know that. I will look into this I used to watch the show as a kid never truly understood it but it was fun to watch now that I'm an adult and understand it more I want a model of Star Trek ships. Thanks man I'll definitely look into it.
I won't lie, I don't know why people shit on the Discovery designs so much. I like that they kinda look like they are towards the end of the rugged utilitarian design language of early starfleet. I think they look pretty cool and unique while still being recognizably starfleet.
7 parents was idiot's. 1 for following the Borg, 2 for telling her to run. Your on a small freaking Starship, where you going to run to, there's nowhere to run! And the Yeager was worst ship ever. Olympic class looks so much like an updated, beefed-up Daedalus class of the 2160s
Star Fleet: We're peaceful explorers and are totally non-violent Borg: Sup Nerds? Star Fleet: We need guns, we need lots and lots of guns Ben Sisko: I'll have it for you by monday
That "shot from Golden Eye" has actually be used since silent film days. I can think of at least a couple of episodes of the original "Ducktales" from the mid 1980s that uses it as well.
It's an easy way to film one thing being dropped a moment before another identical-looking thing is launched upwards - can't keep crashing planes or helicopeters (or ducks) while filming. But it's just lazy and uncreative when you film with disposable CGI starships. Lack of original or authentic effort shows in the shows.
And I can tell you this, as a pilot, that scene in Golden Eye was just as ridiculously fake as the fictional concept of a 100 plus year old derelict starship being able to achieve that maneuver. And I am not just talking about someone climbing aboard a falling out of control airplane. The "lift" angle of attack, speed, etc. of that plane was all over the spectrum. The best bush planes in the world cannot recover from that scenario. But to the untrained pilot, it might seem plausible. lol. I could also go on and on about trivia facts about the jump from the dam that was in fact not from a dam, but I won't. lol.
@@WW-wf8tu Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what that was meant to be about. The PC-6 is a pretty good STOL design, and I'm pretty sure it's Vr is like 50-60KIAS, certainly no need to throw it off a cliff for an extended time for it to fly! And surely once it got airflow over the wings it would pitch up naturally anyway even without pilot input - at least, until the airspeed dropped off and it pitches down again, and so on, and so on. I'm pretty sure that to replicate the film shot, you'd have to be holding full elevator down to stop it pitching up - and even then I reckon it'd overcome that at some point and start pitching anyway.
7:30 So basically, they said that these ships were slapped together on a shoestring budget and tight schedule... to justify slapping ships together on a shoestring budget and a tight schedule.
@@sheevone4359 My personal favorite part: _Dark Helmet: "What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?" Col Sandurz: "Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now." DH: "What happened to then?" CS: "We passed it." DH: "When?" CS: "Just now. We're at 'now' now." DH: "Go back to then." CS: "When?" DH: "Now." CS: "Now?" DH: "Now!" CS: "We can't." DH: "Why?" CS: "We missed it." DH: "When?" CS: "Just now." DH: "When will 'then' be now?" CS: "Soon!"_
@@MaskedGEEK yeah I love that scene. I also like when colonel Sandurz says: "... And this is our Major Asshole. And dark helmet responds: " Another asshole? How many assholes have we here?" Everybody: "We all are!" DH: "I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes."
Random observations. In universe the Nova class was supposed to be the pathfinder vessel for the Defiant back when the plan was to have a really high warp torpedo boat that would do hit and run salvos, but they changed the entire concept and went for a close range slugger. But since the frame was viable they repurposed it into the Nova class and greatly downgraded the warp core. And the anti Borg ships that debuted in First Contact took some design cues from the Defiant in that they didn't have nacelles out on long pylons unsupported and vulnerable. Most had them connected to the primary hull in some way or at least partially obscured by the primary hull. The idea was that since there was going to be a new Enterprise, they didn't want to confuse the audience by having another new ship with the traditional saucer, secondary hull and nacelles on pylons look. The in universe explanation was that Starfleet was going to a new design paradigm of much tougher and more "muscular" ships. And the plan was that after Nemesis, when they had planned on continuing with the current timeline they were going to show Starfleet going to internal bridges and not having the long willowy exposed ships. But the ship designers had no say in the studio hiring a director who didn't even know or like Star Trek to direct Nemesis and killl the franchise for a while. But Star Trek online (which came much later) went back to mostly standard designs with just new detailing and styling. As for *Seven of Nine,* and her costume: a little trivia, her costume almost killed her! The original full Borg suit she wore (before she was deBorged) cut off the blood flow to her carotid artery when she turned her head. She immediately passed out and a alert film crewman turned her head straight and restored blood flow to her brain. As well her catsuit required 20 minutes to take off or put on - with help, so to avoid toilet breaks she just didn't drink much. I wonder if she made a clause about no catsuit for "Picard"? And finally when first screening Voyager, the local TV affiliate was a year behind, so my mates and I would hire the tapes [from a video shop, a lot of you may have read about them in 'remember 90's kids memes'] as soon as they came out. Well we were the second or third ones to hire Scorpion part 2, and the scene where Seven is revealed from behind in her slinky new outfit was hard to watch … I don't mean that as euphemism, the tape at that precise scene had lines and was crinkly because it had been held on pause for so long it had caused physical damage - on a video tape that had been released a few days earlier. This was a primitive time, before internet porn.
I love the Yeager class. I love to think of the nightmare that its engeneering shop had keeping it running. It must have been a true challenge getting all the incompatible components working together with out breaking down or blowing up. What a hero ship that would have made.
Seven of Nine didn't just improve the ratings, she led to the *Presidency of Barack Obama…* seriously. Jeri Ryan spent a long time away from her husband because of the role, which was interstate. And her marriage suffered due to that, and ended in 1999, so what? Jeri Ryan's by then ex-husband, Jack Ryan (not that one) was running for Senator for the GOP in Illinois in 2004, when confidential details of their divorce settlement were released by a judge after several newspapers sued for them. The details released included that Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had wanted her to _perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York City, New Orleans, and Paris,_ although no sex occurred. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling. This didn't help with Jack's Republican campaign (remember this is pre Trump) and he withdrew, allowing his opponent Barrack Obama to score a upset win. Which then led to …. And then … So if course now we have … And all because Voyager was suffering in ratings and apparently B'Elanna Torres in a singlet top occasionally (and that swimsuit and the sonic shower once) and possessed Kes being lesbian in a leather jumpsuit weren't enough to sex up the ratings (a mirror universe DS9 trick). So if they had better writing early on they wouldn't have needed to bring in Seven of Fine, and the 2008 election would have gone differently. When you play cause and effect we end up in a very different timeline. Temporal Agents take note.
@@crazyeyez1502 what do you mean? I'm looking at my [edited] comment and can see no mention of Cruise 😜. Yep I got Ryan and Reacher mixed up … take your 👍
Left it to late for the trailer analysis, didn't you ? Or is Alan still locked away furiously going through it frame by frame looking for clues while running sound wave comparisons to see if that is Palpatine.
Please let Alan stay locked away. This guy has such a slurred pronounciation he should undergo propper speaking lessons so his pronounciation is no longer like mumble jumble.
A little known fact is that the Bonsai tree was so overpowered that in order to keep the episode (and whole Star Trek franchise) from being finished in a few minutes they had to kill it off in what was arguably the most deus ex machina moment in the show.
Anyone who studied the old Starfleet Starship Recognition Chart respected the Olympic class for being a callback to the Daedalus. And respected the Vengeance as a Dreadnought, on immediate sight. My boyfriend thought I was crazy when I screamed in the theater when nobody else did.
The sphere section on the Olympic class makes sense if you consider that a sphere is the optimal shape for enclosing a volume with a minimum of surface area. Perhaps since it’s a medical ship, the idea is extra radiation shielding for vulnerable patients?
Minimum amounts of armor material and shield energy to fully encase the main hull. But maximum internal volume? The usual horizontally-layered arrangement with tiny floorspace in topmost/bottommost decks? An onion-layered or segmented arrangement with tons of crazy omnidirectional turbolift shafts/intersections?
Defiant, considering it nearly blew itself to bits during live fire trials. Best I can give ya, don't know much about the Saber class TBH lol. (Used to be able to quote off every spec of both Enterprise D & E though..XD)
Starfleet Design Tech: "Back in the 20th Century, the 'United States' commissioned a close-air-support craft called an ... 'A-10 Warthog'. Basically they designed the entire airframe around a multibarrel rotating cannon. I .. think we can do that here."
The Norway-Class is my bane. I’ve been trying to build a model of it for years, but in order to scale it, it just has to be oh so long with those blasted nacelle things on the aft.
hey if the person that thought you needed terminal velocity to take a ship off in atmosphere of course he's going to have problems counting how many nacelles are actually on the ship
I have the model, yeah. Also, the USS Concorde, and maybe the USS Liberator too. Presumably, like with two Intrepid-classes, pre Federation ships can reuse names for classes...
Thanks for this wonderful round-up on the lesser-known Star Trek vessels. My favorite is USS Defiant, which turned the tide of the Dominion War, and is, in general a bad-ass little ship - accommodations are closer to a WW2 destroyer, and a very warlike craft.
"Little known"? I was expecting New Orleans, Soyuz or Curry-Class (which is shown for a brief moment). This is more a "Popular with just one screen appearance"-List.
Jeffrey's Tubes actually do go into the warp nacelles. Archer built an auxiliary navigation bridge inside one to shield the crew from a radiation nebula.
Doubt Gene Roddenberry really had much to do with the show since it aired years after his death. Andromeda and it's predecessor Earth: Final Conflict, had Roddenberry's name slapped on to make it more viable to sell to Roddenberry's Star Trek fanbase. Both shows felt like somebodies hand rummaging around in your pocket for your wallet while someone called you, Bro and claiming they were you best friend.
Which Prometheus though? There is the Prometheus from DS9 which uses the Enterprise D saucer section and underbelly nacelles, used as an advanced science and research vessel. Or the Prometheus from Voyager which is a multi vector attack craft with 6 total warp nacelles and with only a single pilot can split into 3 separate, equally destructive fighters. Would have loved to see more screen time for that one.
Prometheus-class (with real lights and sounds, multi-vector assault mode, and killer kung-fu grip!) was an instantly recognizable favourite with (young) Star Trek audiences since it first aired. So not a "little known" ship.
Not bad, but I take issue with the inclusion of the Akira and Saber classes. They were so prominent in the later seasons of DS9 that even casual viewers would recognize them, if not know their backstories. Steamrunner class gets a pass, as it was less prominent, and Norway is fine, as the lost the model after First Contact, making that the only appearance of the design (outside of a silhouette in one VOY episode).
Their Akira class is one of my favorite ships in the Star Trek series when I first saw in the Battle of wolf 359 I instantly fell in love with it I literally have a model of it on my desk that I've had for years now
Raven class ship was not the same size as a runabout vessel. The Raven class was a 5 deck deep space, extended period exploration ship with a shuttle bay of it's own. The runabout, generally shown as the Danube class vessel, was a single deck warp capable ship that was bigger than a shuttle, wiith small crew compartments, but significantly smaller than a starship.
The crew of the Oberth Class science vessel probably got from the top section to the secondary hull section by using turbo lifts that take people through the nacelle pylons connecting the top and bottom sections of the ship together, Turbo Lifts can move in all directions so it is entirely possible.
My favorite little known ship is actually the Cheyenne-class. You only see it once, as far as I know. When the Enterprise passes by the debris field after the battle of Wolf 359, one of the destroyed ships is a Cheyenne-class. I like this ship because the original studio model was actually designed from two scaled-down Galaxy -class model kits (saucer, "necks" and pylons) and four painted marker pens as nacelles. No clue why they didn't just use the nacelles from the kits as well - you couldn't really tell from the distance anyway. But hey.
To be that guy … the NX Enterprise was one of the first Starfleet ship fitted with transporters, and were used very sparingly as they weren't trusted. That a more primitive shipv such as the Freedom class would have them seems a bit … OMG A continuity error in Star Trek, say it isn't so.
@@barrybend7189 And in reality it would kill whatever it transports and rebuilds a new "person" who thinks they are the original at the other end. Just imagine every time anyone beams anywhere in Star Trek they are committing suicide. Bones was the only one who realized it I guess, which must've been why he hated transporters.
It’s also probably been refitted since launch as it’s mentioned Krall is basically a MACO who was put in command after the MACOS were rolled into Starfleet following the forming of the Federation (which is why he’s angry apparently) but I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the ship could have been refitted and a better transporter system added after it proved usefull on the Enterprise.
Yeah i thought the implication was that transporters have been around for decades for use with cargo, and it’s not necessarily that the Enterprise’s was the first safe enough to use on people, it’s just that people were so squicked from horror stories from early transporter experiments that it took a ridiculously redundant variant on the Enterprise before they were deemed people safe. Plus Scotty souped up the one on the Frankin, so maybe it wasn’t people safe before
The ship has two separate crews. Officer elite and noble scientists on top, lowly menial peons and redshirts on bottom. The Bolian galley slaves send food to the bridge with miniature cargo shuttles.
I had a character in star trek online flew an Olympic, the only reason was so I could do a history joke and call it the Titanic (the actual Titanic was an Olympic class ocean liner).
There's nothing wrong with dedicated medical ships like the Olympic-class, you just need to keep them out of harm's way.
@Sean Wilkinson Very practical!If it was Star Wars, it would just be a generic ship but with a paint job like a red stripe. No effort or depth to design a unique medical ship. In the movies the Rebellion's medical ship was a repurposed Nebulon B frigate.
Sean Wilkinson Sure, the spherical design looks peaceful, but if you’re responding to a medical emergency in the middle of a Romulan battle, I don’t think it’ll make you less likely to be hit...
@@loganiushere That's why these ships would never be found in the middle of a Romulan battle, lol.
The sphere might accommodate omnidirectional transporter beams or even maximized surface for medical shuttle bays with minimized paths to inner medical wards. A big hospital isn't much use without an ambulance fleet.
@Sean Wilkinson love it!
I know them all!
Now I feel kinda like a nerd...😔
Knew almost all of them but I'd forgotten about the Raven. Though to be honest it seems sorta like a runabout class or predecessor or something like that based on it's general size and look
@@MrGoesBoom my guess is that it' s more like a small freighter, kinda bigger than a runabout or a yellowston, but not as big as a normal FCA o Bolian model
the medical frigate should have been a Nebulon-B LOL.
Freedom-class? USS Franklin?
I thought the Franklin was unique?
And the Freedom-class is a ONE engined ship from the TNG era, seen in "Best of Both Worlds..."
Take pride in your nerdom. 🤓
When I realized I know all of these ships, I realized just how much of a nerd I am lol
most were in star trek armada lol
@@paulus121212 shut up nerd
@@notfunny9622 wow tht harsh I'm a nerd because I played trek games and knew stuff
@@notfunny9622 yea
@@notfunny9622 he or she is right
I had always hated the design of the Olympic class in Star Trek... until I flew one in Star Trek Online, and now I love the look of it! Seeing it in 3D worked for some reason.
I didn't know there is actually an Olympic class ship that big ball can be a hospital section i thought that makes sense instead of square or rectangle shapes like most haspital
Gotta love that yoga studio scene...
Akiras with 15 torpedo launchers and launching a good 40+ fighters at once.. lol.. that's a good one...
The Nova-class ship was more heavily armed and armored than the Oberth-class. Considering that the Oberth we saw in Search for Spock got taken out by a single hit from a Klingon Bird of Prey, that doesn't seem like a very high watermark.
I like the Olympic class. Had the micro machine of it when I was a kid. All good things was such a great story.
Yay published on my birthday
Maybe you should do a version for the Klingon and Romulan ships?
one not mention, my favorite the nebula class starship
The Raven is MUCH bigger than a runabout dude. It has 4 decks and a shuttle bay!
Where was the Wells class during the year of hell?
Preventing anyone from tampering with your timeline- obviously
Fun Fact - once you watch this video, these ships become a little more known
There's not many left after that point. The Prometheus could be tacked-on as an 11the, due to it only having a single episode featuring.
I knew literally all of them
Now I know why my brother calls me sad ☹️
prefeared the deadleus class to the olympic
akira is well known if you played star trek armada
same with saber class and steam runner class
guess you never played star trek armada
both the Wells class & USS Voyager can be adapted as a realistic spacecraft in real life using present technological advancements . . . one that can transport humans to Mars . . .
This is making me miss the Star Trek armada games xD
I wanna see data for very rear model enterprise Protostar Could you make one video for it please.
It's "little-known ships" not "little known ships". The way you wrote it means that the ships are known, and little.
To continue grammar-nerdlyism, the second quoted phrase should be "little, known ships". Please correct me, because it's fun.
@@mortmain5411 Doesn't the period go inside the quotes? This is for both of you....
Any info on the Achilles Class?
Does anyone know what kind of monthly payment and interest rate of Gold Pressed Latnum the Raven Class ship would run a guy at Ricks Starship Mall? I'd like to also get the holo emitters installed on the common area decks and my quarters with access to both a emergency medical hologram, as well as the new emergency waifu hologram for those longer lonely voyages.
So are there two Freedom classes?
What about the Olympic class's forerunner the Daedalus they were ment to be the backbone of the federation fleet from before the NX class right up to the kirk era yet you hardly see any of the them
Jem'Hadar Heavy Assault Carrier :)
9:45 what wasn't more heavily armed than the oberth class
I knew of them all. My favorite, hands down, is the Wells class.
Raven Class. Just land one in the backyard.
I would love to own a model of one of these ships.
Star Trek Online has most, if not all of those ships and the option to buy actual models of ships you get in the game and customize. I've never done it myself, so I really don't know if they are quality or not but the game itself is free to play.
@@abcmole oh wow I did not know that. I will look into this I used to watch the show as a kid never truly understood it but it was fun to watch now that I'm an adult and understand it more I want a model of Star Trek ships. Thanks man I'll definitely look into it.
@@TheArberter No problem my friend, I hope you find the ships your looking for. :)
Also, is the Eaglemoss metal models, which are quite big. I already have several, including Akira, Norway and more.
I won't lie, I don't know why people shit on the Discovery designs so much. I like that they kinda look like they are towards the end of the rugged utilitarian design language of early starfleet. I think they look pretty cool and unique while still being recognizably starfleet.
Winnebago ! ...
Lonestar!
Franklin's Capt was maco during zindi attack. Before enterprise timeline don't fit
I agree about the Olympic class it was a joke
Damn hellaaofa plot twist at the end of the first one there.
7 parents was idiot's. 1 for following the Borg, 2 for telling her to run. Your on a small freaking Starship, where you going to run to, there's nowhere to run! And the Yeager was worst ship ever. Olympic class looks so much like an updated, beefed-up Daedalus class of the 2160s
Sphincter Class
First Federation ships designed to orbit Uranus and remove Klingons
Such original dad jokes over here!
Ah...... Jeri Ryan..... 😍
I like how like half of these are 'we need actual warships.'
Star Fleet: We're peaceful explorers and are totally non-violent
Borg: Sup Nerds?
Star Fleet: We need guns, we need lots and lots of guns
Ben Sisko: I'll have it for you by monday
weldonwin, Starfleet: Never mind the borg haven’t shown up in years.
Dominion: Wassup up diggity dogs?
Starfleet: Wait we take it back.
We want a ship that looks like our usual plate with sticks, but make it feisty please.
That "shot from Golden Eye" has actually be used since silent film days. I can think of at least a couple of episodes of the original "Ducktales" from the mid 1980s that uses it as well.
It's an easy way to film one thing being dropped a moment before another identical-looking thing is launched upwards - can't keep crashing planes or helicopeters (or ducks) while filming.
But it's just lazy and uncreative when you film with disposable CGI starships. Lack of original or authentic effort shows in the shows.
And I can tell you this, as a pilot, that scene in Golden Eye was just as ridiculously fake as the fictional concept of a 100 plus year old derelict starship being able to achieve that maneuver. And I am not just talking about someone climbing aboard a falling out of control airplane. The "lift" angle of attack, speed, etc. of that plane was all over the spectrum. The best bush planes in the world cannot recover from that scenario. But to the untrained pilot, it might seem plausible. lol. I could also go on and on about trivia facts about the jump from the dam that was in fact not from a dam, but I won't. lol.
@@WW-wf8tu Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what that was meant to be about. The PC-6 is a pretty good STOL design, and I'm pretty sure it's Vr is like 50-60KIAS, certainly no need to throw it off a cliff for an extended time for it to fly! And surely once it got airflow over the wings it would pitch up naturally anyway even without pilot input - at least, until the airspeed dropped off and it pitches down again, and so on, and so on. I'm pretty sure that to replicate the film shot, you'd have to be holding full elevator down to stop it pitching up - and even then I reckon it'd overcome that at some point and start pitching anyway.
7:30
So basically, they said that these ships were slapped together on a shoestring budget and tight schedule...
to justify slapping ships together on a shoestring budget and a tight schedule.
Yes
Wait a minute, if the ball section of the Daedalus class could actually separate, would that make them Spaceballs?
Spaceballs the lunch box, spaceballs the t-shirt, spaceballs the flame thrower, spaceballs the spaceship...
@@sheevone4359 My personal favorite part:
_Dark Helmet: "What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?"
Col Sandurz: "Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now."
DH: "What happened to then?"
CS: "We passed it."
DH: "When?"
CS: "Just now. We're at 'now' now."
DH: "Go back to then."
CS: "When?"
DH: "Now."
CS: "Now?"
DH: "Now!"
CS: "We can't."
DH: "Why?"
CS: "We missed it."
DH: "When?"
CS: "Just now."
DH: "When will 'then' be now?"
CS: "Soon!"_
@@MaskedGEEK yeah I love that scene. I also like when colonel Sandurz says: "... And this is our Major Asshole.
And dark helmet responds: " Another asshole? How many assholes have we here?"
Everybody: "We all are!"
DH: "I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes."
@@sheevone4359 Keep firing, assholes.
Funny
Random observations.
In universe the Nova class was supposed to be the pathfinder vessel for the Defiant back when the plan was to have a really high warp torpedo boat that would do hit and run salvos, but they changed the entire concept and went for a close range slugger. But since the frame was viable they repurposed it into the Nova class and greatly downgraded the warp core.
And the anti Borg ships that debuted in First Contact took some design cues from the Defiant in that they didn't have nacelles out on long pylons unsupported and vulnerable.
Most had them connected to the primary hull in some way or at least partially obscured by the primary hull.
The idea was that since there was going to be a new Enterprise, they didn't want to confuse the audience by having another new ship with the traditional saucer, secondary hull and nacelles on pylons look.
The in universe explanation was that Starfleet was going to a new design paradigm of much tougher and more "muscular" ships.
And the plan was that after Nemesis, when they had planned on continuing with the current timeline they were going to show Starfleet going to internal bridges and not having the long willowy exposed ships.
But the ship designers had no say in the studio hiring a director who didn't even know or like Star Trek to direct Nemesis and killl the franchise for a while.
But Star Trek online (which came much later) went back to mostly standard designs with just new detailing and styling.
As for *Seven of Nine,* and her costume: a little trivia, her costume almost killed her!
The original full Borg suit she wore (before she was deBorged) cut off the blood flow to her carotid artery when she turned her head. She immediately passed out and a alert film crewman turned her head straight and restored blood flow to her brain.
As well her catsuit required 20 minutes to take off or put on - with help, so to avoid toilet breaks she just didn't drink much.
I wonder if she made a clause about no catsuit for "Picard"?
And finally when first screening Voyager, the local TV affiliate was a year behind, so my mates and I would hire the tapes [from a video shop, a lot of you may have read about them in 'remember 90's kids memes'] as soon as they came out.
Well we were the second or third ones to hire Scorpion part 2, and the scene where Seven is revealed from behind in her slinky new outfit was hard to watch …
I don't mean that as euphemism, the tape at that precise scene had lines and was crinkly because it had been held on pause for so long it had caused physical damage - on a video tape that had been released a few days earlier.
This was a primitive time, before internet porn.
Also, out of universe, the Nova began as an early Defiant concept, before they wanted something more distinctive...
I love the Yeager class. I love to think of the nightmare that its engeneering shop had keeping it running. It must have been a true challenge getting all the incompatible components working together with out breaking down or blowing up. What a hero ship that would have made.
Seven of Nine didn't just improve the ratings, she led to the *Presidency of Barack Obama…* seriously. Jeri Ryan spent a long time away from her husband because of the role, which was interstate. And her marriage suffered due to that, and ended in 1999, so what?
Jeri Ryan's by then ex-husband, Jack Ryan (not that one) was running for Senator for the GOP in Illinois in 2004, when confidential details of their divorce settlement were released by a judge after several newspapers sued for them.
The details released included that Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had wanted her to _perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York City, New Orleans, and Paris,_ although no sex occurred. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling.
This didn't help with Jack's Republican campaign (remember this is pre Trump) and he withdrew, allowing his opponent Barrack Obama to score a upset win. Which then led to ….
And then …
So if course now we have …
And all because Voyager was suffering in ratings and apparently B'Elanna Torres in a singlet top occasionally (and that swimsuit and the sonic shower once) and possessed Kes being lesbian in a leather jumpsuit weren't enough to sex up the ratings (a mirror universe DS9 trick).
So if they had better writing early on they wouldn't have needed to bring in Seven of Fine, and the 2008 election would have gone differently.
When you play cause and effect we end up in a very different timeline.
Temporal Agents take note.
That is so deep
Wait..... Jack Ryan was Tom Cruise????? Or, did you mean Tom Clancy?
@@crazyeyez1502 what do you mean? I'm looking at my [edited] comment and can see no mention of Cruise 😜.
Yep I got Ryan and Reacher mixed up … take your 👍
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Akira class is my favorite ever sense I got Star Trek Armada so long ago lol
It was also on star trek bridge commander love that ship so much fun
@@chriswatson645 The name of the ship was a nice call to War of the Worlds.
The Raven was much larger than a runabout, the MSD even has a small shuttlebay at the back.
Even a basic RV can tow a Kia Sportage.
Which existed in 1997 when The Gift first mentioned the Raven.
@@alecsandyr old comment I know, but the MSD shows 4 decks (possibly 5)
Before 7 of 9: "Voyager" rating is 5 out of ten
After: "Voyager" Rating is 10 out of ten.
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Left it to late for the trailer analysis, didn't you ?
Or is Alan still locked away furiously going through it frame by frame looking for clues while running sound wave comparisons to see if that is Palpatine.
Please let Alan stay locked away. This guy has such a slurred pronounciation he should undergo propper speaking lessons so his pronounciation is no longer like mumble jumble.
A little known fact is that the Bonsai tree was so overpowered that in order to keep the episode (and whole Star Trek franchise) from being finished in a few minutes they had to kill it off in what was arguably the most deus ex machina moment in the show.
I'm sure ben yells BONSAI!!! Everytime he see a Olympic class blow up
A whole section on a space Winnebago and nary a mention of Lone Star and Barf from Spaceballs?
Careful, heretic...
Not a real space Winnebago, just a stunt double.
The ball section could be a way of showing other races "this isn't a battle ship don't attack"
I love Nova class ever since I first seen it in Voyager it has become my favorite
Awww, how can you not make a connection between the old Daedalus class and the Olympic class?
Anyone who studied the old Starfleet Starship Recognition Chart respected the Olympic class for being a callback to the Daedalus.
And respected the Vengeance as a Dreadnought, on immediate sight. My boyfriend thought I was crazy when I screamed in the theater when nobody else did.
The sphere section on the Olympic class makes sense if you consider that a sphere is the optimal shape for enclosing a volume with a minimum of surface area. Perhaps since it’s a medical ship, the idea is extra radiation shielding for vulnerable patients?
Or simply the maximum volume possible for bed space, operating rooms, and other medical equipment.
Minimum amounts of armor material and shield energy to fully encase the main hull.
But maximum internal volume? The usual horizontally-layered arrangement with tiny floorspace in topmost/bottommost decks? An onion-layered or segmented arrangement with tons of crazy omnidirectional turbolift shafts/intersections?
The humor and editing in this one is top-notch.
Saber class. Give me a little ship with a great big gun.
Defiant, considering it nearly blew itself to bits during live fire trials.
Best I can give ya, don't know much about the Saber class TBH lol. (Used to be able to quote off every spec of both Enterprise D & E though..XD)
Starfleet Design Tech: "Back in the 20th Century, the 'United States' commissioned a close-air-support craft called an ... 'A-10 Warthog'. Basically they designed the entire airframe around a multibarrel rotating cannon. I .. think we can do that here."
So a paris class frigate
This makes me want to pick up Star Trek Online again
The Borg star starts to assembly them and they tell her to run, you're on a small Starship where you going to run, to there's no way to run
And way to make sure they notice her!
The Norway-Class is my bane. I’ve been trying to build a model of it for years, but in order to scale it, it just has to be oh so long with those blasted nacelle things on the aft.
Did you get the Eaglemoss model, too?
It looks so fragile, like it could be accidentally dismembered with a deflector dish or turning too quickly, that might complicate a model too?
"BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS BAD ASS? this Bonsai tree on the Olympic class" ROFLMAO! I fell out. XD
It speaks to Beverly's patience. I mean, it REALLY does. Especially with JL. lol
You say it's silly, but one of my goals in STO has always been to get one of the Olympic class refits.
The Franklin was Freedom-class and could do Warp 4!!?? Pffft... the other Freedom could do Warp 9 with only one nacelle!!
The Franklin class ship that was featured in the star trek film also has serious canon conflicts iirc
Freedom Class was also a single nacelle design from the TNG Era.
Very true.
hey if the person that thought you needed terminal velocity to take a ship off in atmosphere of course he's going to have problems counting how many nacelles are actually on the ship
I love the witty banter and humor that you guys have.
This video has brought a whole new meaning to “Attack those Federation starships”
8:36 That’s a curry class with excelsior/centaur class nacelles
wait wait... isn't there already another ship named The Freedom Class?
I think so.
I have the model, yeah. Also, the USS Concorde, and maybe the USS Liberator too.
Presumably, like with two Intrepid-classes, pre Federation ships can reuse names for classes...
the tree is pronounced "bone-sigh" (bonsai)... "banzai" is a Japanese war cry.
He said Bonsai - it's just his accent that makes it seem like he said Ban-zai. He is just saying it like British people usually do which is Bon-szei
Thanks for this wonderful round-up on the lesser-known Star Trek vessels. My favorite is USS Defiant, which turned the tide of the Dominion War, and is, in general a bad-ass little ship - accommodations are closer to a WW2 destroyer, and a very warlike craft.
This would have been a good video IF you would have kept your stupid negative comments out of it.
"Little known"? I was expecting New Orleans, Soyuz or Curry-Class (which is shown for a brief moment). This is more a "Popular with just one screen appearance"-List.
Also, we get a new 'Freedom-class', despite there being an obscure 1 engine ship seen in TNG "The Best of Both Worlds"...
That was the Baton Rouge class covered in in the Early Books on Star Trek
Jeffrey's Tubes actually do go into the warp nacelles. Archer built an auxiliary navigation bridge inside one to shield the crew from a radiation nebula.
I gotta watch more Enterprise
Oh, the Nova class is more armored then an Oberth class! I can finally take more than one shot from a hand phaser without exploding!
Yes. Seven of Nine definitely kept my attention on Star Trek: Voyager.
I like Olympic class. Some ships are not made for battle or war and if it needs some strong protector it will travel with some war ship.
To me the wells class ship looks a lot like the ship in Genes last attempted show Andromeda.
Doubt Gene Roddenberry really had much to do with the show since it aired years after his death. Andromeda and it's predecessor Earth: Final Conflict, had Roddenberry's name slapped on to make it more viable to sell to Roddenberry's Star Trek fanbase. Both shows felt like somebodies hand rummaging around in your pocket for your wallet while someone called you, Bro and claiming they were you best friend.
I believe, the Olympic class is an homage to the very first sketches of the TOS Enterprise, which had a sphere in place of the saucer section.
not to be confused with kitt bashing "you smell like hassle hoff"
I maintain that the Yeager Class should've been the Liberty Class as it is basically a Starfleet Liberty Ship.
Thank you for not showing anything from Star Trek Discovery and minimizing the Kelvin timeline.....they suck @$$!
What about the Prometheus-class?
Calvin Deckert Yea, would have gone better than the Wells since the Wells was an alien ruse.
Which Prometheus though?
There is the Prometheus from DS9 which uses the Enterprise D saucer section and underbelly nacelles, used as an advanced science and research vessel.
Or the Prometheus from Voyager which is a multi vector attack craft with 6 total warp nacelles and with only a single pilot can split into 3 separate, equally destructive fighters. Would have loved to see more screen time for that one.
Prometheus-class (with real lights and sounds, multi-vector assault mode, and killer kung-fu grip!) was an instantly recognizable favourite with (young) Star Trek audiences since it first aired. So not a "little known" ship.
Not bad, but I take issue with the inclusion of the Akira and Saber classes. They were so prominent in the later seasons of DS9 that even casual viewers would recognize them, if not know their backstories. Steamrunner class gets a pass, as it was less prominent, and Norway is fine, as the lost the model after First Contact, making that the only appearance of the design (outside of a silhouette in one VOY episode).
Their Akira class is one of my favorite ships in the Star Trek series when I first saw in the Battle of wolf 359 I instantly fell in love with it I literally have a model of it on my desk that I've had for years now
Raven class ship was not the same size as a runabout vessel. The Raven class was a 5 deck deep space, extended period exploration ship with a shuttle bay of it's own. The runabout, generally shown as the Danube class vessel, was a single deck warp capable ship that was bigger than a shuttle, wiith small crew compartments, but significantly smaller than a starship.
The crew of the Oberth Class science vessel probably got from the top section to the secondary hull section by using turbo lifts that take people through the nacelle pylons connecting the top and bottom sections of the ship together, Turbo Lifts can move in all directions so it is entirely possible.
dont Showing Star Trek Discovery but showing the JJ Abrams bullshit.
I study this as if I’m in my 1st year of college. I keep having to remind myself it’s fiction...
Dude, the James Bond was a woman line had me on the floor laughing. Good job!
I like the Olympic class. Just needs a redesign for the nacelles.
Bit of trivia, the Steamrunner was originally going to be called the Streamrunner, but the r was dropped and became Steamrunner.
The r was dropped accidentally. They liked it because it sounded cool and steampunk and they kept it. Yes, the Steamrunner is one of my favourites.
It's "Maquis" Raider, not "Marquis" raider...one of these doesn't like Cardassians annexing territories, the other is a ship. ;)
My favorite little known ship is actually the Cheyenne-class. You only see it once, as far as I know. When the Enterprise passes by the debris field after the battle of Wolf 359, one of the destroyed ships is a Cheyenne-class. I like this ship because the original studio model was actually designed from two scaled-down Galaxy -class model kits (saucer, "necks" and pylons) and four painted marker pens as nacelles. No clue why they didn't just use the nacelles from the kits as well - you couldn't really tell from the distance anyway. But hey.
To be that guy … the NX Enterprise was one of the first Starfleet ship fitted with transporters, and were used very sparingly as they weren't trusted.
That a more primitive shipv such as the Freedom class would have them seems a bit …
OMG A continuity error in Star Trek, say it isn't so.
They were used sparingly for crew. I thought their use for cargo was common.
The transporter was cargo rated. Scotty had to adjust the system for live personnel.
@@barrybend7189 And in reality it would kill whatever it transports and rebuilds a new "person" who thinks they are the original at the other end. Just imagine every time anyone beams anywhere in Star Trek they are committing suicide. Bones was the only one who realized it I guess, which must've been why he hated transporters.
It’s also probably been refitted since launch as it’s mentioned Krall is basically a MACO who was put in command after the MACOS were rolled into Starfleet following the forming of the Federation (which is why he’s angry apparently) but I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the ship could have been refitted and a better transporter system added after it proved usefull on the Enterprise.
Yeah i thought the implication was that transporters have been around for decades for use with cargo, and it’s not necessarily that the Enterprise’s was the first safe enough to use on people, it’s just that people were so squicked from horror stories from early transporter experiments that it took a ridiculously redundant variant on the Enterprise before they were deemed people safe.
Plus Scotty souped up the one on the Frankin, so maybe it wasn’t people safe before
I would have liked to have seen more of the Norway class. Apparently the computer files that contained the CGI models got corrupted.
Sadly so. Like how they dropped the Ambassador-class model too... ) :
Simon Pegg has written plenty of good shows/films. Star Trek 3(can't even remember it's subtitle), was not one of them.
Cassius Malachi His work outside of collaborations with Edgar Wright, Nick Frost, and Jessica Stevenson has been uneven, to say the least.
9:33 Finally, someone calls it out!
The ship has two separate crews. Officer elite and noble scientists on top, lowly menial peons and redshirts on bottom. The Bolian galley slaves send food to the bridge with miniature cargo shuttles.
P, Settle down there, Mark Twain.
Yes! I passed the test knowing the ships
Now I can finally get promoted to Lt.
I had a character in star trek online flew an Olympic, the only reason was so I could do a history joke and call it the Titanic (the actual Titanic was an Olympic class ocean liner).