Reset Your Expectations: Audi Q4 e-tron Interior Review
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- Carl examines the interior of the Audi Q4 e-tron to determine if it is overpriced for an EV or if his perspective needs to shift.
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My goodness Audi really dropped the ball on this one. Excellent video once again.
yes it looks very cheap
Not only on this one, the ICE Cars are the same, in the last 10 Years audi realy saved on details, the look is still the same but the feel has gotten much cheaper and it gets worse everywhere that is not in front of the eye
during communism in east germany, the germans used the same materials for the seats in the trabant and wardburg two stroke crap cars
@@elmakcnc5960 RENNPAPPE
For the price, just get a Model Y 🤦
Your reviews are top notch and immensely satisfying to watch and hear.
Absolutely love your work Carl.
Thank you!
Quite sad. Audi used to be an aspirational brand, similar to BMW and Mercedes. This offering does not match what I would expect of a $60k/£50k car. Thanks for the review.
Audi's are becoming the German Buick/Oldsmobile. Just badge engineered VW's.
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
I did not like the ID4 because I thought it had too much obvious cost-cutting. Looks like the Q4 carried that over as well.
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
Great lecture Carl. Munro Live is teaching me to look in different ways at products. This should be taught at school so we all could be better consumers.
22:08 as the note says, it's actually $60k. But even at $50k it's horrid. Why would you ever buy this over a Model Y?
Because the Y has even worse interior quality to begin with, let alone you risk to get build quality issues as many videos show online, even for newest production cars.
@@kensai7 lolol...no, it doesn't, on either count.
so true
I previously owned a Model Y. I sold it after two years because I couldn't stand the horrible ride quality. At least the Q4 has a better (normal) ride quality.
Got to love Carls reviews, so clear, detailed and to the point.
Keep up the great work.
Much appreciated!
@@MunroLive Can you find someone to do reviews that isn't a complete idiot?
Great job, Carl. I love the fact that you not only reviewed the car, but you taught us all what's important about each part, which is something we can use when we asses our own cars. Very helpful. Thank you.
I've driven the Q4, it feels like a VW. The interior felt like VW. Everything about the Q4 was just sub par and it's like $70,000+ on average. I'm an Audi guy, but wound up with a Model Y. 😢😢😢
Audi Q4 and the ID family and the Seat Cuora are built on the same line. So no wonder its just badge engineering.
Well, therefore they call Kia the new Audi. If you also had compared with the Tesla it comes close but the design and functionality are even better. Some important sticks and buttons left, many things intuitively redundant for every generation. Me driving for 54 years expensive ‚premium‘ would never thought to buy a Asian car, but as the best from Europe, e.g. Albert Biermann who was 30 years head of BMW M-Sport went there inspiring and motivating young engineers to cross borders, a saw that Hyunday group just in one generation became a real ‚premium‘ car brand with Genesis, Kia and Ioniq. Funny fact is about 800 Volts outstanding charging system that Hyundai worked closely together with Mate Rimac the Croatian Tesla. Only Porsche made that deal too, separated now legally from Volkswagen and bringing the crown jewel Bugatti as part of a special deal for ultra rich customers in to form Rimac-Bugatti. So Porsche has tight ties with Volkswagen Group with Audi, Seat and Skoda anyhow but seemingly do not really trust in them about their future anymore. Such deals behind the scenes show what the rich owner families have in mind. Buy in to the best possible partner. It is understandable when you look what Chinese companies are offering today. Look at the new BYD Supercar U8 and U9 than you quickly realize how outdated former German ‚premium‘ is actually and look at their communication telling customers how bright the future will be but the future already started seriously with Tesla. For me that is hard but their arrogance hindered innovation on all levels and they just wanted to do business as usual. Now they drastically loose market in China and even Russia, but also in Canada and USA. They are still strong in Europe but the decline started also over here!
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
@@leobard7767You mean Carl, not Sandy, right?
The real Audis are the ones with Multilink suspension in the front. This ain't it. Even Teslas are more Audi in that department (double wishbone). The Etron RS and Q8 are obviously Audis.. Maybe the upcoming Q6 and perhaps the A6 etron will be too.
I've not seen Carl present a video before. This guy is very concise, very fair and makes a good argument. I'm in the UK and have just got my Q4. I have to say that the interior is a down grade from my old A3. We don't get a wooden dash but my seats look a whole lot better than yours!
This isn't the first time VW's cut seat costs for the American market
Volkswagen/Audi vehicles have been over-priced versus what you get for years, and in that vein, this vehicle continues the tradition.
The Seat Ibiza is what I drive, VW quality, better value for money, sportier look.
I cannot believe how good Audi are making Tesla look. Tesla looking like the ultimate luxury compared to this...
And Audi was the benchmark of interiors not too long ago. What a mess their EV transition is.. it’s kinda sad. That stupid plastic shit grille alone is enough to make me laugh and cry
What are you smoking? Tesla interiors suck ass
@@computercrack i’ve owned Audi.. Merc.. Cadillac.. you couldn’t pay me enough to leave my Tesla to go back to one of those dressed up dumb cars.
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E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
I'm sure Audi marketing people has been told that in the Robert and Larousse French dictionaries the definition of the word ''ETRON'' is
''Molded excrement (from humans and some animals).''
Imagine playing $60K for this Fisher-Price fever dream when you could buy a Y and save $12K.
The y has awful suspension and panel gaps.
They are wasting money on BS like a huge fake grill, useless pimped interiors instead of using them to improve efficiency, battery...
Classic legacy automaker, and even more classic for German ones
Man, and people tell me all the time how "cheap" Tesla interiors are. This isn't just cheap looking and feeling, it's poorly designed to boot.
People who call electric vehicles a golf cart you are showing your ignorance....
Similar to horse and buggy owners didn't like the Model T.
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That interior looks dated and that shifter looks like it came from the 80s. I'm not sure if that's just the camera angle, but those front islands look massive.
I like the lights in the doors. The rest of the interior is just not something that I like. Nice explanation of everything interior Carl!
Audi... Where the shifter is a three way rocker switch. If you have a rocker switch, You could just push the front part to go forward and the back part to go in reverse, just like a Power Wheel.
Thank you. Listening to your highly articulated description of the vehicle was a pleasure.
$55,000 inflated USD does not buy the quality it once did. It buys imitation quality.
Love your design walk-through Carl. Very detailed and credible commentary. So enjoyable! 🙂
Thank you for watching!
I have a "parcel shelf" in my Focus hatchback. It makes a noticeable difference in noise level from the rear tires with the thing removed. I repaired the string that attaches one side and the pivot point which was crunched up because it's just cardboard material and somebody put something heavy up there.
AND I guess that it would help to prevent something inside the trunk to fly in case of an accident? I like hard covers like that 👍
To think people criticise Telsa quality ! I found the quality of my Tesla MY to be way superior to the X5 it replaced and the Q5 I rented.
It's a relic of when Tesla was going through its initial growing pains and actually delivering subpar quality, which is no longer the case today. Similarly, the shitty quality of these Audis and the like will be a relic of when legacy auto was scrambling to survive and trying to minimize the LOSS at which they sell each vehicle by cheaping out on materials cost instead of actually pursuing manufacturing efficiencies and innovation (i.e. today). Provided they survive long enough for it to become a relic, that is.
Let's be honest as a driver the big concern for me is seat comfort, I look very little at the interior as I'm watching the road. Comfortable seat, good voice control or well placed buttons, handy place for drink/snacks, that's all I need
...and heated seats as I live in the UK in winter
I recently ordered a Model Y and the interior quality is subpar as well. The vegan leather material is akin to a cheap gaming chair rather than actual leather. The MY rear seat cushion is quite shallow and flat. Also the MY is one of the only cars where I see videos of recent deliveries where there are blatantly exposed carpet seams and open pillar seams. For $53k, I was willing to overlook it, but that doesn't make me blind to it.
The Model Y is incredible !
with the spotlight on the camera, you can realy see how cheap the inside feels.
That console looks like a 1970's film or TV series' impression of a futuristic vehicle. A screen surrounded by lots of thick padding and obscured by an inexplicably bulky steering wheel.
I learn something every time I watch! Thanks for your insight Carl!
As a German, who was driving 1,500,000 km ICE - most of them Audi - I'm glad I said "Good bye" to German "Premium" betrayer crap in 2019 and bought a Model 3. Now has 135,000 km on ODO. Two days ago I took Tesla Y #3 and #4 for my employees from the Tesla SC in Dortmund, Germany. Thanks for the video and underlining my decision to buy some 45,000 € Tesla Y's. 👍😉👍
I wish Carl would have explained why you can’t/shouldn’t store anything on that “parcel shelf”. Lots of people keep hats and other light items there. Why can’t/shouldn’t you do that? Is it a weight issue? Blocking the rear window? Something else?
Also, having privacy in your trunk for theft prevention is a very big deal in some cities. I don’t think Carl should have downplayed that.
17:30 When I bought my Model Y it came with a parcel shelf in the back. At first look I thought it was less than functional but man was I wrong. It can be slid and folded into so many useful positions for so many different scenarios, and even completely out of the way against the back of the passenger seats. It's simple and extremely versatile, it's yet another favorite feature of the Model Y.
Ahahahahahahabahahahahahahahahahahah tesla zombies and theirs MUMBO JUMBO SCAM puppets propaganda.
@Murno ; the clip in the interior at 13:20 is indeed a clip for wireless charging your phone while holding it in place (perhaps depends on the trim level). My Q4 40 drains my Android phone using Android Auto super quick; more than it can charge. Interior choices are indeed non-premium/Audi IMO. The hard plastics, flat logos and weird front grille would not my choice. Coming from ICE it really does drive super smooth, also on 20's alloys. Range gets to 200-250km while 500 was advertised. EV commercials sell 0-100% battery usage while in practice you charge to 80 and uncharge the battery to 20%. Coming from ICE, that was somewhat disappointing to me. In Netherlands that's just fine but might not be in US depending on infra.
I’ve always been a fan of VW/Audi products of past because they always seemed to offer that “step up” in interior quality and material use over their competitors, with VWs often being referred to as “Audi light” for its premium interior feel. I don’t know if it’s because VW is still hurting from the substantial losses over Dieselgate that they’ve resorted to such drastic cost-cutting of their interiors across the line, but I sincerely hope they return to what made them so notable back in the day at some point.
I currently have a MK7 Golf and got it largely because I needed a small urban runabout but didn’t want to feel like I was in this nasty plastic s***box. It had been my intent to upgrade down the road to the A3 for a similar purpose but for that added bump in interior quality. While I do love the new A3 exterior and interior and find it very contemporary, clean, yet handsome overall, the expanse of hard plastics used everywhere inside makes me think that should’ve been the interior of a redesigned Jetta.
You should buy a Tesla Model Y plaid and then take it to a aftermarket shop, give them $20k and have the best luxury car ever built.
@@davidbeppler3032 you know, it’s interesting you say that because there must be a ton of people with that same mindset around my neighborhood at least, because I’ve seen more Teslas with custom paint jobs and aftermarket add-ons than on any other brand or model (aside from the obvious decked out Mini you often see around).
@@benwells2338 When you just bought the best least expensive car on the market, you can afford to pimp it up a bit. lol
Greetings from Germany, You have the best car technology youtube channel. Very good work.
Thank you very much!
Carl is the best interior car reviewer on the internet hands down.
Model Y at the same price point is better in every possible way!
As many above have said, but Audi has more buttons! Everyone knows buttons = quality.
😂😂😂👎
What a bland, dark, boring interior with a complicated mess of buttons.
Thank you so much for this thorough video. I am completely speechless by this vehicle. $60k??? There will be people who buy it strictly for the grill and badge so that they can show their friends their purchase of a “Veblen good.” It is clear to me that VW’s days are numbered.
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
You have no clue at all you will not even know which brands belong to the empire up to Lamborghini and Porsche and even Bentley and Bugatti.
Ever heard about MAN SCANIA and all the commercial vehicles that belong to VW?
No
Nothing. There biggest market is China not the tiny USA. There they are the international market leaders and btw. they even came through the terrible early 90s when VW was much much smaller than today thanks to Piech who had cut the cost and started the quality programs back then. Passed away a few years ago , also a relative of the old Porsche, a grandson who had started his carreer at porsche in the racing and went to Audi before he became the VW CEO to save the company.
Your days might be numbered but VW will stay for sure if you look at the figures carefully. Biggest manufacturer in China with a 1400 million population is a different story compared to the smaller US market.
Carl, do you not know how parents use child car seats?!
Car seats are not a one or two year thing. Most parents buy a particular vehicle for their "car seat years" - which can go on for 8 to 15 years (depending how many children they have). Just one child can be in a car seat of some kind for 8 years. Children can be still using child booster seats at age 12 or so, depending on their size and weight. Obviously, Audi determined their car buyers will include parents.
Imagine u hold your horses because u think it cost 50k and it is maybe acceptable for some status reasons, then Sandy comes by to tell u it costs around 60+k
Every time he gives a personal opinion, it's a super turn off to me. lol.. I couldn't care less about your preferences- I just want to hear all the facts and knowledge that you have and the industry standards and how decisions are made; facts and logical reasons, production costs, durability and longevity, comfort, ease of assembly, etc. Otherwise, I don't know what it is-- but when people tell me what they "like", I just don't want to hear it. It's meaningless to me and is not worth remembering or even taken into consideration when learning about these different trades; and I immediately discard it unless there are logical reasons for the decisions.
Really wondering what car that Carl drives. Would be interested in him giving a review of his car's interior.
Kia Rio SE 😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure it's just a F150.
I test drove both a Model Y and a Q4 sportback. Q4 felt like a Fisher Price plastic toy car inside and out, a toy car for over $75,000 out the door.
Test drove Model Y and iX3... Model Y felt like a Fisher Price/Ikea toy car compared to the BMW ;) (Disclaimer: Completely agree that the Q4 is a totally overpriced VW in disguise tho)
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
@@leobard7767 After two A4s, I've sworn off VW. During my final exorbitantly priced service, I had a new A4 loaner for a few days... it seemed inferior in almost every way (except tech).
and the tesla model y is not the best on the autobahn for sure, quite noisy car and huge panel gaps everywhere. Nothing really fits together and if you drive above 150 km / h or 100 miles it gets crazy loud due to the missing trunk cover. Saves costs but hits you each and every day you are going fast and I still can go as fast as I want the traffic allows.
@@SoerenM drove the bmw. Suspension and steering is nice. Display and screen is a joke! Laughably bad. Impressively bad, I can’t believe anyone is buying that, especially when compared to a model Y
I think that last part is really important to understand. A 50k EV is equivalent to a 30k ICE car. You spend more money up front but you save those 20k over time (given average yearly mileage and average lifetime of cars)
Auto makers make far less money off of EVs after sale because all that maintenance/service/repair/parts cash cow is basically gone. That is a HUGE part of their profitability calculation. If they want to remain in business then they have to charge more up front.
Well said. 👍🏻
Gotta watch out for the maintenance schedules on those legacy ice evs to. Apparently kia&hyundai require multiple battery electrolyte coolant flushes to maintain the warranty. 🤔
This car cost 61k not 50, see the correct value at the end of the video
Great video Carl, seems like VW dropped the ball on this one. I own a Ford Mach -E and its awesome.
Looked at the car in person in Ingolstadt. I think they have done a very good job of building a car that looks like a real Audi from the distance of a non-owner, but in detail it is more on the level of a Skoda Fabia. Quite an achievement as well! A tacit agreement thus develops between buyer and manufacturer not to talk about the cheap stuff.
The TT right next to it felt like it came from a different era or was built by a different manufacturer.
There used to be an appropriate solution for the trunk cover: the roller blind. But that is now too expensive for almost all manufacturers.
the quality of q 4 is similar to a 1 and a 3 and similar to peugeot 2008
11:23 You guys are getting ridiculous. Who says the dashboard has to be straight?????? Automakers are free to express their aesthetics in the manner that’s suits their brands and their customer. We aren’t interested in driving cookie-cutter automobiles that fall to the barebones in mobility. We like style. We like contrast. We like expression. We like art. We like THE DIFFERENCE!!
But your criticisms about the cheap material and lack of headroom are justified.
Worth 25000$, not 60000$ !!! 😂
Looks like this Audi has an Hyundai inspired interior from 10 years ago.
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
@@leobard7767 How many times do you have to write the same stuff?? Boring and annoying
The trunk cover is actually there for EU regulation! EU cars have to have it, every single car here has one.
I think it is indeed supposed to cover your goods from being seen and thus stolen. Also, some claim it does cause some fuel or in this case electricity savings as the space to heat is smaller.
But yeah, it's cheap and easy to remove for a reason..
But why make it solid if it is no use for putting things on?
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Not meant to put things on the shelf. By placing e.g. a laptop there, the risk of a collision will increase, as what is loose will fly forward into the cabin. The plate is to prevent luggage from flying into the cabin in the event of a collision or sudden stop. I don't understand that the interior expert explains this in the video.
@@janwergeland5586 And my point is, so why is it wasting money and practicality with a solid shelf as opposed to a fabric shelf like some other cars use.
@@johnpublicprofile6261 Maybe I didn't explain well, but having things on top of the plate is not a good idea in terms of passenger safety. The Q4 is available in 2 body styles, SportBack and regular Wagon style. I have the sister model myself (Enyaq, not sold in the US) and chose the Wagon, as I occasionally need the space up to the roof in the boot. The Wagon version has a safety net with solid belts and a fastening device behind the 2nd row and behind the 1st row of seats if the back seat is down. Good thing there are options. The same wonder in the video where you think the seats are too simple, yes, but it is up to the person ordering the car to choose. On the q4, you can choose standard fabric, sports seats in fabric, comfort seats in fabric, or these variants in leather with the quality you want to pay for. Since I live in a cold climate and don't like sitting in leather seats, I chose seats (electric) with wool fabric. Do not understand that it is mentioned that there is a sea of choice for those who are interested.
@janwergeland5586 I think it is me not explaining myself well. I understand not putting things on 'parcel shelf'. But don't worry 😉
These interior acessments of Carl's are perhaps my favorite Monroe videos. The insight into the amount of thought that goes into the design of a modern vehicle's interior is astounding!
Best “eye” in the Automotive industry. Designers take notes!
Audi again, cutting cost in the wrong places.
22:14 Honest and fair result! Was a great video at the end.
Just a basic clue about the car and it features, before reviewing and pure the critics out, would be nice. Looks like Sandy only wants to put sh*t about the Q4. Sad move!
Carl has a ASMR-y voice and way of speaking.
First review I’ve seen with Carl - nice job. Your insights and explanations are interesting and well presented.
As for the Audi - I’m gobsmacked at how cheesy that interior looks and feels. And that massive cookie sheet faux grill. Ugh.
Sorry mom - I know you said something about if you can’t say something nice…..)
the interior front (driver) looks like a truck´s one more than a car, honestly looks more like a 70-80´s car than a new one.
There is one rule for the CARS. The cars are Mercedes, Audi, BMW. Rest are just VEHICLES ! Holy trinity of quality, durability and engineering - Mercedes, Audi, BMW
You are truly an expert in your field because you show unbiased evaluative facts.
21:40 I think it's dangerous to resign ourselves to the line of thinking that "oh well, I guess this is just what we should expect from a vehicle at this price point now given the economy/inflation..." This is how inflation becomes anticipated and therefore entrenched. It's our job as consumers (and, frankly, yours as an analyst) to be adversarial to corporations that are always trying to pull a fast one on us, to question whether something is good enough, to call them on their BS rather than make excuses for them. When we give an inch by resigning ourselves to 'luxury' becoming an 80k category rather than 60k as was the expectation _literally three years ago_ these companies will take a mile.
Also, yes, batteries are expensive and you're paying a lot of the expected fuel and maintenance costs up front, but any competent automaker should be able to make back a lot of that extra cost through vastly simplified drivetrains and optimized thermal systems etc as we've consistently seen Tesla vaunted for in these teardowns/analyses, across price points, for several years now.
The Q4 is an awesome car and the interior is great quality. I’ve ordered mine and was impressed the moment I sat in it and I come from a line of previous Audi’s. It’s a bit understated for the US market perhaps with its typical Audi design and lack of ugly chrome.
I know Sandy hates that this is a lazy rebadge of VW ID.4 so when Carl says "My favourite thing about this car is" omg, here it comes! He's gonna say something super mean! "the paint colour" There it is!! Haha! Nothing about the actual car is any good. The best this is the paint. It's better than the handling, the range, the charging speed, the price, the interior, the outer design, the headlights, the suspension, the brakes, the speed, the storage space, the seats, the dash and controls, none of that is up to par with something as simple as paint.
Remember Audi was never a luxury brand when it started. It was a like Volvo neither luxury or economy. It then decided to go into the luxury market but is still considered entry level luxury although it has a few expensive offerings.
I will 100% disagree with your statement on the child seat connections. As a person with 3 kids that went through child seats that feature alone would be a reason to buy that car and I absolutely HATE that car. There is nothing worse than trying to connect a child seat to the attachment through the top and bottom of the seat in the dark at weird angles and getting your fingers pinched. As a person that does not have kids in child seats anymore. I don't GAF that those are visible. I would love if I had those in the Bolt. If all child seat harnesses were like that then I could easily see a company making non-child applications for those connection points. Worst comment ever.
I ordered a 2023 but after 6 months and lot's of research on the Q4 forums, videos like this I cancelled my order and will wait until they get it together. The technology is extremely outdated. I will wait until they switch from the outdated MEB to something better. I've always been an Audi guy but this one needs a lot of work.
Its in the same price category as the Model Y, is this a joke? This piece of garbage should be $45,000 max, no one is dumb enough to buy this car.
First!! And it matters Mary!!!
You led!
I've driven nearly every EV available today. Bought and love the Model Y. Brilliant vehicle. Period.
Truth!!
I drove it absolute garbage, hard shoddy suspension, poor build quality and the cheapest steering wheel I've ever seen 😂
When I hear when people ask why electric cars have a grill 😩 cause it's also about the look and not function. And rhis grill looks good.
I thought you were biting your tongue abit there, 55,000 is a lot of money to shell out on what I thought was below the standard you expect from an Audi.
Cost the same as a Tesla modY, no? The interior I better imho. This is not a review, it’s a hit job. No prob really, except when people think the Tesla interior is better…it’s not stop it.
5:12 Oh... talking about seats, for just around 2k, you can upgrade those :) But that does not matter much right? Take the cheap trimm and complain :)
Seems to work ^^
He was reviewing a $60,000 car!
That dash is insane ugly,,and yes the shifter is rediculous. Dash materials should be SOFT for safety.
Looks like a Skoda more and more, FF sake this is supposed to be an Audi!! Forget it, VW group is in the s..t and has lost its way.
I understand your comments about the child seats. I wanted to submit that 2 factors may be at play. I know in EUROPE their child seats have solid latches that click right in (which I wish we had in the US) So they probably didn't want to redesign that latching access area just for the US. Additionally, I know myself we sometimes have to move our seat from different family members and Babysitter...etc. It can be maddening how each car manufacturer does their child latching locations....ie misaligned or too deep! I sometimes wonder if they are trying to eliminate complaints in surveys or feedback regarding access to those. Imagine eliminating a few bad surveys due to this complaint. Just my thoughts on the matter, although I can agree with you on their jarring appearance on a grey leather seat.
Isnt ISOFIX International Standard?
Master Carl is always one of my fav Munro reviewers!!!
Carl got mad at 14:35 "I hate those features!"
You don't want Carl to be mad at your vehicle, watch out.
Audi dropped the ball, and isn't worth the premium you pay for the name on this vehicle.
@18:10 It's protecting the content from the prying eyes of an opportunist _Smash-n-Grab_ sneak thief.
Not going to temper my criticism. They’d have to pay ME to drive this Audi.
However not as cheap looking interior as Tesla has. Quality overall better than in Tesla.
AY AYA YA AUDI, Carl is there :-) now you gonna get it :-)
Should have called it "Audi Q4 e-tron Inferior Review."
Maybe VW designer was drunk drawing this on a board. Then whoever approved didnt care either :)
Great to see an add for a local business - Detroit Denim.
Carl, always a lot to learn from your analysis, thanks so much!
Glad you like them!
I rented a Q5 (petrol) last week … it was utterly awful. I can only think of one thing that was acceptable on the car .. and that was the engine and power.
Driving enjoyment was zero. I despised it.
Thanks for the excellent walk through Carl. Always great to get your insight.
Glad you enjoyed it
So many nooks and crannies here, prefer the simplicity of tesla is so easy to keep clean
Nothing beats a cup of coffee and a good interior review from Carl in the morning!
Couldn't agree more!
Love the review. I especially like the fact that you try not to use opinions of other vehicles and focus more on objectively assessing the car on its own.
Don't get all the bashing about the use of physical buttons. I enjoys having some button to operate key functions, avoiding take the eyes out of the road. Also the Audi target costumer, isn't the same as a Tesla. More tech gimmicks shoved in a screen isn't real comfort features and built quality.
Vw/audi are going downmarket and don't have a clue on what customers want. They are going back to drum brakes and cheap materials whereas tesla only use premium parts. If you don't believe me, just ask Sandy Munro.
@@mallamal5578 what are you talking about? Don't drink the Kool-Aid from Tesla fanboys. VW is probably the Automaker in better position to take over the BEV market, why? They have a dedicated BEV platform that can be adapted to multiple models and formats. Besides multiple brands that targets multiple branches of costumers.
@@mallamal5578 Sandy is a complete Tesla grifter. The Model S in average, has a worse build quality than a Model Y. And the platform is aging. Gross Tesla sales comes from the Model Y and 3, more entry level BEVs. The Model S is already looking market share to Automakers with more prestige in the luxury sector, as Porsche. Can't stand delusional Tesla fanboys, that believe everyone going to drive a Tesla.
Physical buttons are preferred to me. Not a fan of sorting through menus to get to my climate control or "radio".
How’s that Blackberry holding up?
Thanks Carl for another excellent and objective presentation. Love the way you criticize and articulate your point.
Much appreciated!
Keep keeping it real Carl.
Carl is great.
Love the opening music...so fitting with the Munro team. Such a cool company.
Remember when Audi owned the interior game and no one could come close?
4:56 I do understand that it is not what you think on Audi. But when Tesla uses every bit in cost cutting. It is a smart move :)
Up to this point. I thought this vid is less, biased towards Audi. Damn, i was wrong :P
Tesla was supposed not to have the fit and finish of legacy. Which has way more premium feeling. Well that argument is now out of the window.
Tesla is king in performance and style/price.
There's a big difference between the two. Tesla uses clever design to simplify manufacturing, Audi uses cheap materials to cut costs. Tesla's quality issues came from rushing production, not being cheap, and it's no longer an issue.
The Austin made Model Y is the perfect example. It's extremely simple and cheap to manufacture, but very high quality, even parts the customer will never see. Watch the teardown playlist on this channel, you'll see.
I agree that Tesla gets somewhat of a free pass on the luxuriousness, or not, of their materials. However, given this Audi’s comparison on drivetrain technology, range, software, etc……wouldn’t you think Audi would try to compete on luxury?….. but they aren’t because they can’t and still make the car prices competitive in their classes. The interior screams this fact.
I was really surprised not to see VW group try to match Tesla’s recent price cuts. From seeing the interior of this car I now see they can’t. If they are using these kinds of materials to try and save money already then they can’t be making much profit on these cars and maybe cannot reduce the price further.
@@nickmcconnell1291 you nailed it.
I remember in the 80s and 90s, many OEMs were criticized for having too many small buttons that were difficult to find by feel.
That led to some better designs that were much more ergonomic and functional.
And then all that progress was apparently tossed out the window because "touchscreens are cool, bro" or something...
Buttons do not tend to fail, or rattle on touch screens
The hard part is to put them on the screen in an intuitive place
exactly!
E-tron means 'Turd' in French. It's apt. Thank you for sharing your views and expertise. Like Sandy, I think you're right. But instead of managing my expectations, I feel it best to make a life change away from VWAG. The slide downhill at Audi has been continuous since the 2000's. Name a great innovation ['Vorsprung durch technic' since 2005, for example?] I've had many Audi's in my life and have always paid their high price [for a VW-like product] because of the great ergonomics, beautiful Bauhaus-inspired design styling and ok to good general build quality. If I look at my current A4 in detail, I am astounded at the lack of both good ergonomic design and honest build quality! The buttons fail early, don't work in terms of ergonomics and the car is clearly designed with Pre-determined product obsolescence in mind. "Everything will be worn out by 200kkm". My first TDI lasted 500kkm with no issues [1000km range on a 48l tank of diesel!] The next generation lasted 400 [1990's], the next gen lasted 350 [200's] and the next, 250. I take care of my cars, I pay a high price for them [chunks of my life] and have been loyal to Audi. My current Audi is KAPUT at 215kkm. Everything is worn out! Especially the mechanicals and electrical systems. MADE TO FAIL. Flimsy! ...... As an Electrical Engineer and Industrial designer, I have to admit that my professional opinion is that this sucks! I am no longer seeking and Audi as my next car, after 30years at the wheel of the 4 circles. I note their presence on the list of the 'You shall own nothing and be appy' club, with great sadness. Herr Hoch would be doing high RPM's in his grave, if he were to see the sorry state of the once wonderful marque that he created. Sandy you're quite right, of course. SAD, very sad
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Thank you
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