I’m a 40 year old dude who has been a lifelong fan of professional wrestling. I also have a wife, kid, a job, a house, and plenty of other things that demand my time. I haven’t watched NJPW in nearly 20 years. I was eager to see Tanahashi and Okada. Imagine my disappointment when I was presented with what we got over the past several weeks. Jericho and Moxley involved in everything. The NJPW guys just looked like any shlub from MLW. Maybe they’re old now, maybe their style didn’t work well with the AEW guys, I don’t know. What I do know is that I didn’t enjoy any of this. AEW programming seems like chaos. It’s like someone has been describing Michael Jordan to me, but then they showed me footage of Washington Wizards MJ, instead of Bulls MJ
A lifelong wrestling fan and you watch AEW?? Usually real wrestling fans aren't into that weekly gymnastics competition with a flaming, thumbtack table in every single match kind of BS.
@@mikeawesome9212 it’s not all terrible, a lot of it is, but not all of it. Punk is fine, Danielson is a ring wizard, and I like MJF so much I bought one of his t shirts when he was doing the “We deserve better” angle. I don’t care for the Bucks or Jungle Friends, or most of the indyrific gimmicks. It’s strange how they just throw completely green talent out for matches on Wednesday nights when they have 3214 trained wrestlers on the roster but it makes for some fun viewing occasionally. I only watched about 4 episodes of Rampage before I quit on that and I’ve never seen an AEW PPV, probably never will. I want AEW to be successful, I want to see the 2nd coming of “the Monday night wars” in some form or fashion. I’m becoming less and less enthusiastic about that prospect.
@@12ozmouse99 it will never be that way again. Not because wrestling won't be entertaining, but because they won't be fighting for the main stream audiences attention. Ppl tuned into the attitude era to hear catch phrases and catch a glimpse of side boob. Not to watch wrestling.
@@drewski103 that’s not true. Well at least in the sense that a bit of both weren’t going on at the same time. To be clear, I understand “the attitude era” is gone and isn’t coming back. Nor would I want it back, it wouldn’t fit. I was only referencing the competition of the “Monday night wars”, and Tony Kahn has the money to make that happen. A modernized version would require that AEW have a competing subscription service, a competing promotional department, a competing video game to reach that oh so important teen demo, a real women’s division, and booking that follows logic. The attitude era has nothing to do with the reason that AEW won’t compete with WWE. Tony Kahn has everything to do with it.
@@12ozmouse99 even if they went head to head, it would only matter to the old school. Live shows don't have to be watched live anymore to be successful. I want that dynamic too, I wish choosing one or the other actually meant something anymore but it's all just personal preference now. Tony isn't in control of the woman's division or the game division, those both fall onto Omegas platter. And since he isn't wrestling and the woman's booking has been up and down lately, I'm thinking the game will be a hit at least. Or I'm hoping it will be a hit
I would have LOVED if you guys posted "Jim Cornette reviews Jon Moxleys backstage promo" and it was just a 4 second clip of "Moxley does a promo, agh same shit, ANYWAY-"
Did anyone hear Meltzer's totally neutral, unbiased and objective review of the Forbidden f'n Door? "One of the all-time great PPVs...every match over-delivered.... etc." If Meltzer wasn't paid by AEW for that, he should have been.
It wasn't just Dave. The majority of online wrestling sites and channels gave it very high reviews and said it was an amazing show... and channels with way more subscribers than Jim.
@@jeevesosiris Please can you evidence this? For some reason, I can't respect/concede an alternative opinion solely based on a comment on a TH-cam video, so I'd be grateful if you could direct me to any credible content that says this really was AEW best, and best selling PPV ever. I don't care how many subscribers ANYONE has: there are small Japanese children blowing up balloons & such like and they have 7.2 million subscribers. That big number means fuck all, and I wouldn't seek these childrens' opinion because they have 7.2 million subscribers. Do you see what I'm saying? Thing is, I'm a huge Will Ospreay fan. And have always had plenty of time for Jay White, too - ever since I saw the two of them headbutt each other into oblivion on ROH TV. AEW TV made both of these guys look like idiots. They deserve better than that: these guys really are world class talents.
Will osprey's a good wrestler though maybe if you weren't so out a touch jim Gotta realize this aint the seventies no more in eighties this is the 2020 And if I remember correctly I remember watching a rock and roll express in the midnight express in some garbage matches back in the days
The smirk when he said jungle boys mom was sweet on Christian cage, I died haha. Those two are going to have a banger of a match, almost the same setup as a great like ospreay leading Cassidy to match of the night at the PPV
There are definitely way too many belts. If all we're going to get is one woman's match per week at the same 9:30ish time slot, why do we have two women's titles? Why do we need the All Atlantic title?
Everything in AEW has to have a subtitle. We had a ‘Road Rager’ followed by Forbidden Door followed by Blood & Guts. Just like his “huge announcements” Tony seems terrified just to have a normal episode of TV without some gimmick.
What JC said about the impression of NJPW talent not being predominantly Japanese was something a college dormmate said to me in the 2000s when I showed him the Vader vs Hansen eye-pop match. "Why aren't there a lot of Japanese guys in a Japanese company?"
Luckily for Tony, anytime he neglects to come up with a solid line of reasoning for a storyline (like Christians year long heel turn over a battle royal elimination) his hardcore fandom simply cannot wait to go look for their own reasons and swear it’s “AMAZINGLY SUBTLE LONGTERM BOOKING that you FED BOTS simply cannot understand!”
I agree with the importance of a wrestler's attire and greatest hits needed for their debuts. If you have a huge star appearing, you should present and book this star as one.
First time I've seen an AEW ppv this last sunday and it was such a mess. Many botches, bunch of moves without a purpose and the 4way ending was sad tbh
Injuries can happen, but it’s really bad timing for that to happen, right off the heels of Booker T getting hammered over a simple observation that a bit more muscle could aid Cole against injury.
@@getschwifty9531 I have to admit that it was rather entertaining, in a head shaking manner, reading so many fans online having no understanding of how muscle mass can help withstand the brunt of blows that lead to injuries, even head injuries, but acting as if they were experts.
@@segagenesis7708 dude, they were so smug about it. Actually attacking and belittling Booker's credentials and accomplishments because he made a logical, objective reason for why atom smol should put on muscle mass. Cole fans and cm punk fans live so vicariously through those two that they take any critiques of said wrestlers personally themselves. Lol like if they're being attacked.
at first i thought travis heckel was making fun of trent beretta and chuck taylor's new outfits on this week's dynamite but then realized orange cassidy is dressed like zach from saved by the bell
@@The80sWolf_ I get into it like that all the time. I doubt that I care what you "doubt" though, so you do you, bud and I'll worry about what I do and don't do.
@@connor4stro lol i respect some of cornys takes but not all i like OC and comedy wrestling and understand modern wrestling is different, its call being subjective buddy
i was just talking about how ppl are lazy by just saying OC can "go" ppl just need to elaborate better so that its not misunderstood, OC is good underneath babyface kinda like this gen spike dudley or 1-2-3 kid
"Ropongi"... Isn't That The Advertised Restaurant When "Klaaus" Hurt His Back in TheHotelRoom & Had to Watch TheWelcomeChannel, on That One Episode of AmericanDad?...
I saw Jay White in a bar in Hollywood couple weeks back…he looked like every other schlub in the place. Definitely looked like a fan, didn’t even notice it was him until my fourth glance
Sweet baby Jebus! I have partaken in some herb (legal in Canada) and I’m listening, like one does, one minute you guys were talking about AEW and my brain (ADHD) kinda tuned out but I did hear all of a sudden Deep Throat 😳 Y’all messed with my brain but it made me laugh. I haven’t told ya this week, I Love you both! You bring but a moment of sunshine into my life! 🥸 How’s that for sucking up! I’ll see myself out now, thanks.
This show was a mess. Everything Jericho touches turns black and dies. Shafir is getting tv matches due to the friendships she has backstage. Storm basically sold everything like death to keep Shafir from trying more stuff (The way she did against Rosa), because Shafir is stiff, jerky and sloppy. The women only get their usual 9:30 match. This is the second week in a row where the only thing I walk away from this show enjoying is Christian's segment. I'm tired of Cole. I'm getting tired of Page's thin skinned hyper-sensitivity. I'm sorry, but video game wrestling matches where people barely sell and if they do it's for all of three seconds just to go into another spot they shouldn't even be able to do right after the damage they took, is not enjoyable to me. I know there's an audience for it, but I watch with a friend and that's the main thing that keeps me bothering.
@@Sky_Blaze it honestly looks like something a fan would put together when they have no clue just how hard this can be. The same as him buying up so much talent. Again, something a fan would do and then completely forget that they don’t have enough time on tv for all of this talent. So, it makes perfect sense that this is how Khan books.
@@Sky_Blaze I think what happened is that a contingent of fans were so upset with the WWE product, that they are determined to like what AEW did, and went through a period of treating them with kids gloves and being in denial. The bloom is slowly beginning to come off the rose.
the actor is a big wrestling fan, I don't recall the exact reason, but I think he went to show and met Jim somewhere and from there he (Jim) knows of him (Dennis Haskins, had to google halfway through typing lol)
this show was painful. nothing they did really convinced me that the PPV would be interesting. i hate the fact that Danielson had to start off by dropping hints about the surprise for the PPV. fortunately, the surprise paid off with Claudio but given how vague the description of the person was, it could have been anyone. i mean, there was a rumor going around where Johnny Gargano was the person because of how he was scheduled for an event in Chicago. I know Corny would've gone ballistic in one direction but that could have been polarizing (although most likely the AEW crowd would have mb8'd with cream soda for that announcement). i really don't understand why it's so hard to actually announce the person that will be showing up so that they can help get the fans excited? maybe it could've popped a little more of a rating if Claudio appeared next to Danielson and said hello or something. but i guess because of Malakai and Punk's surprise success, Tony thinks he's stumbled onto some lame formula that works. i'm going to skip the rest of the show until the main event because i decided to go back and check out other Tanahashi matches. I found one with AJ Styles vs Tanahashi back in 2006 for TNA. Tanahashi was 29 at the time and you had a pretty nice peak at a guy who was selected to be the future for NJPW. Everything that AEW did wrong with Tanahashi here in this match TNA did right. Mike Tenay did a great job explaining Tanahashi, showing his significance, why NJPW were very high on him, his athletic background. In short, he sold the guy. The match was good because highlighted what he could do without showing off everything against an equally capable AJ Styles. I left the match thinking, yes I can see why NJPW would see a future in this guy. Fast forward to the present. You had an extremely sloppy match with guys just doing random things. No selling, no drama, just a big mess. With Styles vs Tanahashi, Shannon Moore interfered with AJ picking up the win after Tanahashi got clocked. But it was a tainted victory that AJ didn't want and apologized. The match didn't last long but it was a match where you would want to see more just because of the tainted finish and knowing that AJ didn't pull out all the stops. This match did nothing. Just people goofing off, you have the biggest star from NJPW, a legend, being shackled by bad booking and creative. Worse yet he doesn't show anything except that we get lame jaw jacking from Moxley and Tanahashi rather than something physical that would make one want to see the match. And back in the day, I used to consider AJ a spot monkey but looking back at that match, I thought it was far better than anything that AEW has done except for the Danielson - Page and Punk - MJF stuff because it had the fundamentals of a good match and a reasonable story thrown in. And here's the thing for me that kills me about AEW. I do think they have very good and capable talent. When they have the right creative behind them and the right people involved, they can pull some really good stuff off. But the booking is atrocious, the matches are atrocious because they have zero fundamentals nor good drama and people just fuck off every single match. But who's telling them to do that? I want to go back to the horrible Darby promo. It was just all over the place. It felt like he had a cue card behind a camera because he would go from line to line or point to point without leading us anywhere. There was no cohesion to that promo and he simply name dropped to name drop (because we have to be reminded of everything). Even if the delivery/execution was awful, the content could've been stripped down enough to tell us why we needed to see this match. I remember Corny jizzing over Cena's return promo. To be frank, Cena's promo wasn't even that good because it was elementary in basic story telling that you learn from grade school. Who, what, where, why, when and maybe how. He even spelled those things out as though being a 1st grade teacher to a bunch of C- students. The summary for what AEW is to me is that it's basically people who had watched pro-wrestling and picking and choosing what they liked rather than understanding the framework that makes it work. Guys like Adam Page can be defensive about their beliefs for whatever reason but that stubborn headed attitude makes the business look bad since they refuse to listen why their stuff looks and sounds bad. It's like how people learn how to code these days where they do these code boot camps or copy and paste from bad examples for a few years with contract jobs or whatever then claim they deserve a senior position. Then when you give them an assignment where they have to solve a tough problem, they buckle because they don't have the tools to understand how to figure it out. I wish Tony Khan just steps back and take the role of the CFO and/or COO (operations guy) and let someone with the right experience put the wrestling framework to be the head of their product/creative side. Tony has to get out of his own way.
After tonight's AEW dynamite it's clear Christian has replaced MJF as the best heel actively working in the business. Wishing death on a guy's family is some serious heat seeking.
Who else here is waiting for Corney to review Moxley out with a concussion, and pockets winning the secondary interim champion 🏆 in last night's house show battle royal?????
18:20 He actually looks really cool under the mask. And now I have a super cool image of heel Christian with the undersnaker there behind him as backup... Only as his actual persona no mask.
@@Sky_Blaze they never had the same level of funding as wwe or tna but they put out some great shit pre-covid. Some of the best wrestling and best booking of the 2010s
AEW is a mess and they can't have a PPV without something going horribly wrong this company is cursed. Never in my life have I seen so many injuries and botches. The ending to that fatal 4 way was such a joke they couldn't have came up with a better ending on the fly?? These are suppose to be "professionals".
I don't understand why Tony wants to keep booking this show. His stuff is terrible, the ratings are tanking, he's buried his own talent and now he's got a whole other company to rebuild. The show is getting worse and worse and he continues to shoot himself in the foot and hobble his own people. I'm starting to think that AEW isn't about wrestling at all, it's just an ego trip for a hyperactive rich kid.
Except for the “political” rants. Jim Cornette is a zombified NPC-type creature outside of wrestling. It’s unbearable to listen to unless you’re still under the extreme mind control that permeates this world. Literally every single thing he believes in politically is based off lies and bullsh*t. It’s truly a sight to scoff at.
@Alasdair MacAoidh *”modern day wrestling is pretty good”* ONLY if you’re 12 years old or a mentally handicapped adult. I stopped watching wrestling in 2007, before I even turned 14… even at age 13, I could see that the quality was going downhill. And it wasn’t even close to being as bad in 2007 as it is now. Lmfao what is remotely good about wrestling today other than A FEW good wrestlers? I don’t understand how any adult can see 90%+ of what they put on tv today and think “yeah that’s pretty good”
Yeah Moreena Schafer has never been any good in the ring, thats why she was barely used in NXT. The other girl "Jessamyn Duke" was even worse. I remember when they announced a women's war games i was thinking "there's no way they can put Jessamyn and Moreena on Shayna's team". I really thought they were going to because those 3 and one other kept attacking all the girls. I forget who the fourth girl was. Then they ended up doing it so that Shayna picked her team members and she did not pick Jess or Moreena because again they both sucked in the ring. Shayna's team ended up being her, Io Shirai, Bianca Belair and Kay Lee Ray. So yeah now Moreena is in AEW and she still ain't any good which is bananas since her husband is Roderick Strong. You would think he could teach her some stuff since he is so good but I guess some people just don't have it.
22:50 the same old matches over and over. Have to hand it to Penta he tried. Malakai Black is terrible how he even got into the WWE is a joke. Like the Kyle O'Reilly vs Jungle Boy match just so so slow. Don't they teach pace? least run the ropes
1:05:35 Exactly Corny! Haven't watched in 20 years. My guys were Mr. Perfect, Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Jeff Jarrett. Why do I care if a guy named Jon Moxley wrestles some guy from Japan? Mind you I don't know what the Shield was or NXT because I'm not an avid watcher. I know CM Punk he failed in UFC. Brock Lesnar wrestled at Minnesota
Kris Statlander definitely deserves another look. She’s gone back to basics with her look and she has massively improved in the ring and is over with the crowd. She’s also a physical freak, even more so than Jade Cargill. Her only drawback is she’s not a good promo … that and there’s nothing for her opponents to latch onto, so they keep on with the alien shit. They need to have Stat come out and cut a promo about how she’s leaving that all behind and give her a decent nickname and catchphrase.
And why are you always down on AEW when it's actually better than at WWE crap You're in the right place right now this is why you don't work for a wrestling company anymore cause you're out of touch
The Christian promo was really good, until dinocrock showed up. Christian should have said his piece then left. There is no resson to add to everything that happens. This is one of the reasons I watch 10 minutes a week instead of 10 hrs. When dinocrock showed up I turned it off.
The 1997 Search'N'Soak vignettes with Sunny & Corny are the closest thing we'll ever get to see of Corny getting soaked by 💩Stain's kids. Brother Love's hammock not included 🌊💦
If Jim watch Will Ospreay vs pockets wonder if do a Danielson vs omega review. When praise that match. I thought it was best match Pockets ever had with Ospreay
Jim really said Okada looks like Eminem and a cart attendant? And jay white and cole are the same size? Wtf is wrong with him 😂🤣😂🤣 and completely ignored the crowd goin nuts for Okada
Had a feeling if I looked under certain adult video sites I'll find this Behind the Green Door Jim keeps talking about, and sure enough, s p a n k b a n g has it. 😉
Im FAR from a Pockets defender . As my heart sank when i heard he was facing Will at Forbidden Door . But i was surprised how good it was . Thanks Will !!!!! lol
I agree with a lot of Corny's takes, but his takes on outfits in wrestling make it seem like he doesn't pay attention to modern sports culture. He often wants wrestling to feel real, but REAL athletes nowadays spend thousands of dollars to look homeless.
There are two problems with that, 1) it's primarily a small group of basketball players who dress like that & not all athletes. As a matter of fact, many sports mandate that athletes need to arrive at the stadium/arena in a suit & tie attire. 2) Basketball players who do dress like that (e.g. James harden & Russell Westbrook) are often made fun of because of the way they dress. That's not a good thing for a wrestler your trying to get over as a serious &/or threatening person.
@@fatman2124 I genuinely love how you brought up those two specifically, however I never said basketball players, and people like them are extreme. He spent a clip talking about these guys wearing sweats, and PLENTY of athletes go to events wearing (quite expensive and sometimes personally branded) sweats. If we want to talk fighters, I think it's fair to say those guys mostly dress up for official media days, but outside of that it's mostly civies. Also, being honest, have you ever been intimidated by a guy in a suit who wasn't in the mafia? Most wrestlers look awkward in them anyway. AEW has way to many major flaws to key in on this, imo.
Great episode of Dynamite before forbidden door. The OC & Osprey match shut up a lot of people and made them look stupid, one of the matches of the year.
I’m a 40 year old dude who has been a lifelong fan of professional wrestling. I also have a wife, kid, a job, a house, and plenty of other things that demand my time. I haven’t watched NJPW in nearly 20 years. I was eager to see Tanahashi and Okada. Imagine my disappointment when I was presented with what we got over the past several weeks. Jericho and Moxley involved in everything. The NJPW guys just looked like any shlub from MLW. Maybe they’re old now, maybe their style didn’t work well with the AEW guys, I don’t know. What I do know is that I didn’t enjoy any of this. AEW programming seems like chaos. It’s like someone has been describing Michael Jordan to me, but then they showed me footage of Washington Wizards MJ, instead of Bulls MJ
A lifelong wrestling fan and you watch AEW?? Usually real wrestling fans aren't into that weekly gymnastics competition with a flaming, thumbtack table in every single match kind of BS.
@@mikeawesome9212 it’s not all terrible, a lot of it is, but not all of it. Punk is fine, Danielson is a ring wizard, and I like MJF so much I bought one of his t shirts when he was doing the “We deserve better” angle.
I don’t care for the Bucks or Jungle Friends, or most of the indyrific gimmicks. It’s strange how they just throw completely green talent out for matches on Wednesday nights when they have 3214 trained wrestlers on the roster but it makes for some fun viewing occasionally.
I only watched about 4 episodes of Rampage before I quit on that and I’ve never seen an AEW PPV, probably never will. I want AEW to be successful, I want to see the 2nd coming of “the Monday night wars” in some form or fashion. I’m becoming less and less enthusiastic about that prospect.
@@12ozmouse99 it will never be that way again. Not because wrestling won't be entertaining, but because they won't be fighting for the main stream audiences attention. Ppl tuned into the attitude era to hear catch phrases and catch a glimpse of side boob. Not to watch wrestling.
@@drewski103 that’s not true. Well at least in the sense that a bit of both weren’t going on at the same time. To be clear, I understand “the attitude era” is gone and isn’t coming back. Nor would I want it back, it wouldn’t fit. I was only referencing the competition of the “Monday night wars”, and Tony Kahn has the money to make that happen.
A modernized version would require that AEW have a competing subscription service, a competing promotional department, a competing video game to reach that oh so important teen demo, a real women’s division, and booking that follows logic. The attitude era has nothing to do with the reason that AEW won’t compete with WWE. Tony Kahn has everything to do with it.
@@12ozmouse99 even if they went head to head, it would only matter to the old school. Live shows don't have to be watched live anymore to be successful. I want that dynamic too, I wish choosing one or the other actually meant something anymore but it's all just personal preference now. Tony isn't in control of the woman's division or the game division, those both fall onto Omegas platter. And since he isn't wrestling and the woman's booking has been up and down lately, I'm thinking the game will be a hit at least. Or I'm hoping it will be a hit
"It was a bad show with bad news" - Jim Cornette
“Half these guys look like the cast of Saved by the Bell”
Hey, I’m pretty sure AC Slater could stretch most of these guys.
Look up jj garrett. It's the closest you'll get to seeing that.
Adam Swole💀 takes offense to your comment.
I’m pretty sure Screech could stretch most of these guys
Mario Lopez today could stretch half of these guys.
Lol that's funny I bet he could stretch out preppie
Jim Cornette and Saved by the Bell... two things I never imagined ever being related together
I'm surprised Jim is so well versed in Saved by the Bell
Kelly was my first crush...
I'm not
I would have LOVED if you guys posted "Jim Cornette reviews Jon Moxleys backstage promo" and it was just a 4 second clip of "Moxley does a promo, agh same shit, ANYWAY-"
Did anyone hear Meltzer's totally neutral, unbiased and objective review of the Forbidden f'n Door? "One of the all-time great PPVs...every match over-delivered.... etc."
If Meltzer wasn't paid by AEW for that, he should have been.
It wasn't just Dave. The majority of online wrestling sites and channels gave it very high reviews and said it was an amazing show... and channels with way more subscribers than Jim.
@@jeevesosiris Please can you evidence this? For some reason, I can't respect/concede an alternative opinion solely based on a comment on a TH-cam video, so I'd be grateful if you could direct me to any credible content that says this really was AEW best, and best selling PPV ever. I don't care how many subscribers ANYONE has: there are small Japanese children blowing up balloons & such like and they have 7.2 million subscribers. That big number means fuck all, and I wouldn't seek these childrens' opinion because they have 7.2 million subscribers. Do you see what I'm saying?
Thing is, I'm a huge Will Ospreay fan. And have always had plenty of time for Jay White, too - ever since I saw the two of them headbutt each other into oblivion on ROH TV. AEW TV made both of these guys look like idiots. They deserve better than that: these guys really are world class talents.
I really love when Christian cut his promo and made Tony hold the mic, he told Tony at one point, "hold that mic up a little, Tony!" It was great
They're listening
AEW is like TNA when they had a bunch of WWE guys. I'm waiting to see Kurt Angle and Flair
The difference is they had washed up bums and impact they're getting top notch talent from WWE
Will osprey's a good wrestler though maybe if you weren't so out a touch jim Gotta realize this aint the seventies no more in eighties this is the 2020 And if I remember correctly I remember watching a rock and roll express in the midnight express in some garbage matches back in the days
The jab at 27:52 was insanely good 😂
Had me audibly laughing at 1:39 AM
The smirk when he said jungle boys mom was sweet on Christian cage, I died haha. Those two are going to have a banger of a match, almost the same setup as a great like ospreay leading Cassidy to match of the night at the PPV
@Pugna. are you ok
Seeing so many people with a belt makes it look like a fan meetup and folks want to play wrestler out back.
There are definitely way too many belts. If all we're going to get is one woman's match per week at the same 9:30ish time slot, why do we have two women's titles? Why do we need the All Atlantic title?
Except they have a guy who lets them do it on TV.
Lmao a month ago it was "there aren't enough belts"
Always moving the goal posts
Is it not?
it reminds me of the very local wrestling events where everyone is green and thinks they look better with a belt from walmart toy section
Everything in AEW has to have a subtitle. We had a ‘Road Rager’ followed by Forbidden Door followed by Blood & Guts.
Just like his “huge announcements” Tony seems terrified just to have a normal episode of TV without some gimmick.
Just like Heyman used to do his "surprises" when he owned Extremely Crappy Wrestling.
Scared there rating will REALLY tank if they do a regular episode
Yeah and with the exception of a few people, ECW was horrible
Hah true. He would have to actually book properly then. We can't have that now. The daddy's money mark neeeeds to do whatever he wants.
He may not actually know how to do a normal episode of TV
What JC said about the impression of NJPW talent not being predominantly Japanese was something a college dormmate said to me in the 2000s when I showed him the Vader vs Hansen eye-pop match. "Why aren't there a lot of Japanese guys in a Japanese company?"
Luckily for Tony, anytime he neglects to come up with a solid line of reasoning for a storyline (like Christians year long heel turn over a battle royal elimination) his hardcore fandom simply cannot wait to go look for their own reasons and swear it’s “AMAZINGLY SUBTLE LONGTERM BOOKING that you FED BOTS simply cannot understand!”
" They look like people on the fucking Street!!"....Jim Cornette
I wanna hear Jim's reaction to Tony's hugs 😅
man smh🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@leelohaskin7941 Vince do the same lmao
@@Barbaresantana "what about wwe" hell even Vince didn't look that desperate lol
I agree with the importance of a wrestler's attire and greatest hits needed for their debuts. If you have a huge star appearing, you should present and book this star as one.
I find it refreshing how in touch Jim is. Cosplay fans are the ones who are out of touch.
They Say he is out of touch with wrestling but they are out of touch with reality altogether
He doesn't know shit about wrestling.
@@UnexpectedDanger Lazy trash trolling.
@Unexpected Danger Good one
It’s funny to me to hear Jim complain about other people being to sensitive on Twitter and blocking him, when he does the exact same thing
Jims Hypocrisies know no bounds..
I have to know the story behind Jim being so familiar with Saved by the Bell
First time I've seen an AEW ppv this last sunday and it was such a mess. Many botches, bunch of moves without a purpose and the 4way ending was sad tbh
Injuries can happen, but it’s really bad timing for that to happen, right off the heels of Booker T getting hammered over a simple observation that a bit more muscle could aid Cole against injury.
the PPV was great until the last 2 matches in my opinion, but ye the ending really left a bad taste
@@getschwifty9531 I have to admit that it was rather entertaining, in a head shaking manner, reading so many fans online having no understanding of how muscle mass can help withstand the brunt of blows that lead to injuries, even head injuries, but acting as if they were experts.
@@segagenesis7708 dude, they were so smug about it. Actually attacking and belittling Booker's credentials and accomplishments because he made a logical, objective reason for why atom smol should put on muscle mass.
Cole fans and cm punk fans live so vicariously through those two that they take any critiques of said wrestlers personally themselves. Lol like if they're being attacked.
at first i thought travis heckel was making fun of trent beretta and chuck taylor's new outfits on this week's dynamite but then realized orange cassidy is dressed like zach from saved by the bell
Rick Knox is the most useless referee on the planet! He's the only referee that has me literally screaming at my television.
He literally only has a job because of the bucks
I doubt that you are actually sitting watching wrestling and yelling at a phony referee
@@The80sWolf_ I get into it like that all the time. I doubt that I care what you "doubt" though, so you do you, bud and I'll worry about what I do and don't do.
@@DevoJetBoy8680 Autism
all the marks that keep saying OC can "go" theres a difference from being able to wrestle and being able to do moves
Looked like he could wrestle on Sunday
You sir are a mark even worse a cornette mark…all these guys ruined the business how come jimmy wrestled a turtle named cowabunga
@@connor4stro lol i respect some of cornys takes but not all i like OC and comedy wrestling and understand modern wrestling is different, its call being subjective buddy
i was just talking about how ppl are lazy by just saying OC can "go" ppl just need to elaborate better so that its not misunderstood, OC is good underneath babyface kinda like this gen spike dudley or 1-2-3 kid
@@drewski103 he put on the best match of his career on sunday, he can def hang with the best. But theres lvls to this shit is what im saying
So this is the go-home show for Forbidden Door? At least Cash Wheeler vs Jeff Cobb was alright, except for the afterbirth.
Zack Morris Slater Jr.
Roman Reigns must be weak. Pockets knocking people out with one punch.
The guy behind orange Cassidy standing
next to Jim Cornett looks like Colin Farrell
"Ropongi"...
Isn't That The Advertised Restaurant When "Klaaus" Hurt His Back in TheHotelRoom & Had to Watch TheWelcomeChannel, on That One Episode of AmericanDad?...
Wish the rest of the 700k of viewers would stop watching so Tony Khan would get the message people hate his booking and the matches are trash.
I saw Jay White in a bar in Hollywood couple weeks back…he looked like every other schlub in the place. Definitely looked like a fan, didn’t even notice it was him until my fourth glance
Chicks dig the meat mountain
I too always thought he said “like a douche in the night.”
The Luchasaurus bit makes a little more sense now that he turned heel.
Sweet baby Jebus! I have partaken in some herb (legal in Canada) and I’m listening, like one does, one minute you guys were talking about AEW and my brain (ADHD) kinda tuned out but I did hear all of a sudden Deep Throat 😳 Y’all messed with my brain but it made me laugh. I haven’t told ya this week, I Love you both! You bring but a moment of sunshine into my life! 🥸 How’s that for sucking up! I’ll see myself out now, thanks.
Share the herb
47:33 Darby Allin and Sting promo 😂
Sting tried so hard to save it, though 🤣
Forbidden door was saved by will ospreay
I watched the Royal Kangaroos in the 70s on wrestling from Portland thay were great heals
Chris Jericho has popcorn feet
This show was a mess. Everything Jericho touches turns black and dies. Shafir is getting tv matches due to the friendships she has backstage. Storm basically sold everything like death to keep Shafir from trying more stuff (The way she did against Rosa), because Shafir is stiff, jerky and sloppy. The women only get their usual 9:30 match. This is the second week in a row where the only thing I walk away from this show enjoying is Christian's segment. I'm tired of Cole. I'm getting tired of Page's thin skinned hyper-sensitivity. I'm sorry, but video game wrestling matches where people barely sell and if they do it's for all of three seconds just to go into another spot they shouldn't even be able to do right after the damage they took, is not enjoyable to me. I know there's an audience for it, but I watch with a friend and that's the main thing that keeps me bothering.
I don't even bother anymore and I wish more people would stop watching so Tony Khan gets the message his booking is shit
@@Sky_Blaze it honestly looks like something a fan would put together when they have no clue just how hard this can be. The same as him buying up so much talent. Again, something a fan would do and then completely forget that they don’t have enough time on tv for all of this talent. So, it makes perfect sense that this is how Khan books.
@@Sky_Blaze I think what happened is that a contingent of fans were so upset with the WWE product, that they are determined to like what AEW did, and went through a period of treating them with kids gloves and being in denial. The bloom is slowly beginning to come off the rose.
@@segagenesis7708 came off the rose a few months into aew for me wish everyone else would hurry and catch up
@@Sky_Blaze nobody is watching except super marks
How could you be a wrestling fan all your life and not be able to book it any better than this? Makes no sense.
I never thought I would here saved by the bell from Jim. Mr Belding? How the F does Jim know who that character is?
the actor is a big wrestling fan, I don't recall the exact reason, but I think he went to show and met Jim somewhere and from there he (Jim) knows of him (Dennis Haskins, had to google halfway through typing lol)
this show was painful. nothing they did really convinced me that the PPV would be interesting. i hate the fact that Danielson had to start off by dropping hints about the surprise for the PPV. fortunately, the surprise paid off with Claudio but given how vague the description of the person was, it could have been anyone. i mean, there was a rumor going around where Johnny Gargano was the person because of how he was scheduled for an event in Chicago. I know Corny would've gone ballistic in one direction but that could have been polarizing (although most likely the AEW crowd would have mb8'd with cream soda for that announcement). i really don't understand why it's so hard to actually announce the person that will be showing up so that they can help get the fans excited? maybe it could've popped a little more of a rating if Claudio appeared next to Danielson and said hello or something. but i guess because of Malakai and Punk's surprise success, Tony thinks he's stumbled onto some lame formula that works.
i'm going to skip the rest of the show until the main event because i decided to go back and check out other Tanahashi matches. I found one with AJ Styles vs Tanahashi back in 2006 for TNA. Tanahashi was 29 at the time and you had a pretty nice peak at a guy who was selected to be the future for NJPW. Everything that AEW did wrong with Tanahashi here in this match TNA did right. Mike Tenay did a great job explaining Tanahashi, showing his significance, why NJPW were very high on him, his athletic background. In short, he sold the guy. The match was good because highlighted what he could do without showing off everything against an equally capable AJ Styles. I left the match thinking, yes I can see why NJPW would see a future in this guy.
Fast forward to the present. You had an extremely sloppy match with guys just doing random things. No selling, no drama, just a big mess. With Styles vs Tanahashi, Shannon Moore interfered with AJ picking up the win after Tanahashi got clocked. But it was a tainted victory that AJ didn't want and apologized. The match didn't last long but it was a match where you would want to see more just because of the tainted finish and knowing that AJ didn't pull out all the stops. This match did nothing. Just people goofing off, you have the biggest star from NJPW, a legend, being shackled by bad booking and creative. Worse yet he doesn't show anything except that we get lame jaw jacking from Moxley and Tanahashi rather than something physical that would make one want to see the match. And back in the day, I used to consider AJ a spot monkey but looking back at that match, I thought it was far better than anything that AEW has done except for the Danielson - Page and Punk - MJF stuff because it had the fundamentals of a good match and a reasonable story thrown in.
And here's the thing for me that kills me about AEW. I do think they have very good and capable talent. When they have the right creative behind them and the right people involved, they can pull some really good stuff off. But the booking is atrocious, the matches are atrocious because they have zero fundamentals nor good drama and people just fuck off every single match. But who's telling them to do that?
I want to go back to the horrible Darby promo. It was just all over the place. It felt like he had a cue card behind a camera because he would go from line to line or point to point without leading us anywhere. There was no cohesion to that promo and he simply name dropped to name drop (because we have to be reminded of everything). Even if the delivery/execution was awful, the content could've been stripped down enough to tell us why we needed to see this match. I remember Corny jizzing over Cena's return promo. To be frank, Cena's promo wasn't even that good because it was elementary in basic story telling that you learn from grade school. Who, what, where, why, when and maybe how. He even spelled those things out as though being a 1st grade teacher to a bunch of C- students.
The summary for what AEW is to me is that it's basically people who had watched pro-wrestling and picking and choosing what they liked rather than understanding the framework that makes it work. Guys like Adam Page can be defensive about their beliefs for whatever reason but that stubborn headed attitude makes the business look bad since they refuse to listen why their stuff looks and sounds bad. It's like how people learn how to code these days where they do these code boot camps or copy and paste from bad examples for a few years with contract jobs or whatever then claim they deserve a senior position. Then when you give them an assignment where they have to solve a tough problem, they buckle because they don't have the tools to understand how to figure it out.
I wish Tony Khan just steps back and take the role of the CFO and/or COO (operations guy) and let someone with the right experience put the wrestling framework to be the head of their product/creative side. Tony has to get out of his own way.
The thumbnail 😂😂
"Dressed like he just changed his oil". 🤣Right off the bat.
Tony's celebrating how many people paid for the ppv.
After tonight's AEW dynamite it's clear Christian has replaced MJF as the best heel actively working in the business. Wishing death on a guy's family is some serious heat seeking.
America - Native Americans
India - Indians
Wait till Jim sees FTR and danhaushen
IDK who my favorite Brian Last rival is: Chris Jericho or Adam Cole
Bradshaw
Luchasaurus, wasn’t he in developmental at WWE before? I’ve seen pics of his face online.
@Jeff just googled it, can see why he wears the mask…
He was also in a season of Big Brother, US version. Look up Austin Matelson
Who else here is waiting for Corney to review Moxley out with a concussion, and pockets winning the secondary interim champion 🏆 in last night's house show battle royal?????
Yeah right!! Lol
Trash.
Darby sounds drunk in that promo.
It was there. Lol!
Now i whant to see cristian cage!
That is a real bad guy promo.
*jungle boy mom...call me!
18:20 He actually looks really cool under the mask. And now I have a super cool image of heel Christian with the undersnaker there behind him as backup... Only as his actual persona no mask.
FTR & danhausen Jims a gonna Love that
All these comments about needing a booker n Hunter Johnston is just sitting there
Who's that? Honestly.
@@Sky_Blaze booker of ROH for the last decade+
@@thickchip2694 oh ok roh got me back into wrestling so I could see that but ROH isn't anything to write home about.
@@Sky_Blaze they never had the same level of funding as wwe or tna but they put out some great shit pre-covid. Some of the best wrestling and best booking of the 2010s
@@Sky_Blaze especially after that bullsh ** with ironically, NJPW/ROH ppv a few years ago
Saved By The Bell - that's how Zack Sabre Jr got his name
True story 💯
AEW is a mess and they can't have a PPV without something going horribly wrong this company is cursed. Never in my life have I seen so many injuries and botches. The ending to that fatal 4 way was such a joke they couldn't have came up with a better ending on the fly?? These are suppose to be "professionals".
They're not cursed, they're idiots.
Weird lie
@@UnexpectedDanger tf ever
Ya see this one yet whiskey wade??
AND LAST NIGHT TOO
What did it take Joe, 3 weeks maybe 4.. an injured again.. dude gets more injuries an injury breaks than he actually wrestles..
Was thinking that he's pulling a Kenta lol.
Cristian prom was great great great
On a positive note for Adam Cole.. he gets to go home with Britt Baker.
I don't understand why Tony wants to keep booking this show. His stuff is terrible, the ratings are tanking, he's buried his own talent and now he's got a whole other company to rebuild. The show is getting worse and worse and he continues to shoot himself in the foot and hobble his own people. I'm starting to think that AEW isn't about wrestling at all, it's just an ego trip for a hyperactive rich kid.
But you are watching every week?
I think one of the funniest things 🤣 is that Jim actually thinks he's cute. Nigga please
I like AEW but I cannot stand the constant burial of the referees. I'm sorry to say this but the corpse ref really needs to be let go
This podcast is more entertaining then modern wrestling nowadays!
Except for the “political” rants. Jim Cornette is a zombified NPC-type creature outside of wrestling. It’s unbearable to listen to unless you’re still under the extreme mind control that permeates this world. Literally every single thing he believes in politically is based off lies and bullsh*t. It’s truly a sight to scoff at.
@@NewNormalWorldOrder Trash.
@@NewNormalWorldOrder Not at all. He's pretty fair and reasonable. Quit buying the ring wing bullshit.
@Alasdair MacAoidh the old stuff had a lot of good too, though, today's "good" isn't that good
@Alasdair MacAoidh
*”modern day wrestling is pretty good”*
ONLY if you’re 12 years old or a mentally handicapped adult.
I stopped watching wrestling in 2007, before I even turned 14… even at age 13, I could see that the quality was going downhill. And it wasn’t even close to being as bad in 2007 as it is now.
Lmfao what is remotely good about wrestling today other than A FEW good wrestlers? I don’t understand how any adult can see 90%+ of what they put on tv today and think “yeah that’s pretty good”
Why are so many comments on this channel hidden?
Its like that for the reply section underneath the initial comment for alot of videos, don't know why
Did not one of the saved by the bell actors become a wrestler?
Dustin Diamond did some early TNA spots yeah
Yeah Moreena Schafer has never been any good in the ring, thats why she was barely used in NXT. The other girl "Jessamyn Duke" was even worse. I remember when they announced a women's war games i was thinking "there's no way they can put Jessamyn and Moreena on Shayna's team". I really thought they were going to because those 3 and one other kept attacking all the girls. I forget who the fourth girl was. Then they ended up doing it so that Shayna picked her team members and she did not pick Jess or Moreena because again they both sucked in the ring. Shayna's team ended up being her, Io Shirai, Bianca Belair and Kay Lee Ray. So yeah now Moreena is in AEW and she still ain't any good which is bananas since her husband is Roderick Strong. You would think he could teach her some stuff since he is so good but I guess some people just don't have it.
Obviously he does not watch new Japan pro wrestling
I was just fast-forwarding till it got to the good part and I ended up skipping the whole podcast
🤣🤣🤣
Nice!
Always thumbs up from me here 😂
22:50 the same old matches over and over. Have to hand it to Penta he tried. Malakai Black is terrible how he even got into the WWE is a joke. Like the Kyle O'Reilly vs Jungle Boy match just so so slow. Don't they teach pace? least run the ropes
1:05:35 Exactly Corny! Haven't watched in 20 years. My guys were Mr. Perfect, Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Jeff Jarrett. Why do I care if a guy named Jon Moxley wrestles some guy from Japan? Mind you I don't know what the Shield was or NXT because I'm not an avid watcher. I know CM Punk he failed in UFC. Brock Lesnar wrestled at Minnesota
Kris Statlander definitely deserves another look. She’s gone back to basics with her look and she has massively improved in the ring and is over with the crowd. She’s also a physical freak, even more so than Jade Cargill. Her only drawback is she’s not a good promo … that and there’s nothing for her opponents to latch onto, so they keep on with the alien shit. They need to have Stat come out and cut a promo about how she’s leaving that all behind and give her a decent nickname and catchphrase.
Hickulolo 4life
If you don't like it just stop watching it Jim and go watch watch Roman no talent
Dino bro looks like a dopey kids TV presenter under the mask, you'd be thankful he's dressed the way he is.
Darby Allen and Liv Morgan speak so robotic and lack any range of emotion.
Pockets
J.C. Slater
And why are you always down on AEW when it's actually better than at WWE crap You're in the right place right now this is why you don't work for a wrestling company anymore cause you're out of touch
AEW is dead
That PPV was the revival. It was fantastic.
Boy I can't stand that little fckn mascot, getting pushed to the moon!
The Christian promo was really good, until dinocrock showed up. Christian should have said his piece then left. There is no resson to add to everything that happens. This is one of the reasons I watch 10 minutes a week instead of 10 hrs. When dinocrock showed up I turned it off.
The 1997 Search'N'Soak vignettes with Sunny & Corny are the closest thing we'll ever get to see of Corny getting soaked by 💩Stain's kids. Brother Love's hammock not included 🌊💦
I bet more people watched Tanahashi in TNA than watched this show.
If Jim watch Will Ospreay vs pockets wonder if do a Danielson vs omega review. When praise that match. I thought it was best match Pockets ever had with Ospreay
Jim really said Okada looks like Eminem and a cart attendant? And jay white and cole are the same size? Wtf is wrong with him 😂🤣😂🤣 and completely ignored the crowd goin nuts for Okada
It's his gimmick. He makes as much sense as the retarded wrestling companies he complains about.
Had a feeling if I looked under certain adult video sites I'll find this Behind the Green Door Jim keeps talking about, and sure enough, s p a n k b a n g has it. 😉
Mmmmhmmmm
Aew is hot trash can juice
The PPV was surprisingly good, looking forward to the review.
Jim will probably shit all over it.
As someone who doesnt watch aew and only watches new japan, I enjoyed it. Although most of the aew guys seemed a step slower.
@@joegreene7619 I don't like the flippy stuff but I enjoyed the PPV. It really wasn't that bad.
@@TT-df9hp It's cool if you like matches that don't make any sense and 80 people fighting and butt fucking everywhere. Yeah.
Anyone with an open mind can see it was a damn good ppv
Im FAR from a Pockets defender . As my heart sank when i heard he was facing Will at Forbidden Door . But i was surprised how good it was . Thanks Will !!!!! lol
What I get from this is these guys really need to watch NJPW before they comment on it.
Cornette and his cuckcults don't watch wrestling. They don't like wrestling. They won't allow themselves to enjoy wrestling.
I agree with a lot of Corny's takes, but his takes on outfits in wrestling make it seem like he doesn't pay attention to modern sports culture. He often wants wrestling to feel real, but REAL athletes nowadays spend thousands of dollars to look homeless.
There are two problems with that,
1) it's primarily a small group of basketball players who dress like that & not all athletes. As a matter of fact, many sports mandate that athletes need to arrive at the stadium/arena in a suit & tie attire.
2) Basketball players who do dress like that (e.g. James harden & Russell Westbrook) are often made fun of because of the way they dress. That's not a good thing for a wrestler your trying to get over as a serious &/or threatening person.
@@fatman2124 I genuinely love how you brought up those two specifically, however I never said basketball players, and people like them are extreme. He spent a clip talking about these guys wearing sweats, and PLENTY of athletes go to events wearing (quite expensive and sometimes personally branded) sweats. If we want to talk fighters, I think it's fair to say those guys mostly dress up for official media days, but outside of that it's mostly civies. Also, being honest, have you ever been intimidated by a guy in a suit who wasn't in the mafia? Most wrestlers look awkward in them anyway. AEW has way to many major flaws to key in on this, imo.
Don't watch if you hate everything
He doesn't hate everything, did you even listen to him?
He loved the Christian promo up until Dino Douche came out.
Trash.
And guess what people don't! More people don't watch than people left that do!
Oh no, what would happen to everyone if Carlos wasn't here to set us all straight! Don't listen to these clips if you don't like them, sport.
Don't listen if you love shitty wrestling
Great episode of Dynamite before forbidden door.
The OC & Osprey match shut up a lot of people and made them look stupid, one of the matches of the year.