"Somebody came and corrupted your idea of the spectacle of the oscars through an act of physical violence on screen an yet you react even though, just to organize that, just to put the food on the table and create the wine that they’re drinking on those tables there had to be labor violence on hundreds if not thousands of people..." banger by Yugopnik
Going to detox at 11 PM in solidarity with Yugopnik 👌 he jokes about his alcoholism but I remember him mentioning not drinking for like 8 days straight and I don't remember the last time I did that
The cynical part of me believes that a lot of the LGBT+ acceptance under capitalism in recent years has come from the realization that we make great consumers. Many of us were already alienated from society at a young age, and as adults we're more likely to have a bit more disposable income than our straight counterparts that are saddled with socially mandated crotch goblins. Slap a rainbow on some random consumer good it and suddenly that brand can do no wrong.
It's also just the seizing of a real popular movment by institutional structures. Like Lenin said that one time about how revolutionary thinkers are adopted and neutered by the state ideology as has been done with figures like MLK in America
@@jdjdjdj1275 A lot of nazi propaganda emphasized the “quality” of “the aryan man” seeing as being aryans was the nazis main justification for their horrific crimes. And by “quality” I mean propaganda about the height and stature, muscular figure and symmetrical face of “the aryan man”, as well as a huge focus on his contributions to the country by being a “moral” citizen and having a “good work ethic”. They also had tons of propaganda about women having an obligation to bring up tons of kids and raise them in a state that would make them suitable as examples of “fine aryans”, as well as being good housekeepers, etc. They also had a bunch of propaganda about being builders of society and being superior to all other peoples. This type of rhetoric certainly makes a lot of people feel the need to live up to this fictional aryan man/woman (obviously only “traditional” genders and gender roles were accepted). Probably made the citizens very anxious about being subpar and feeling a need to constantly compare themselves to the people around them to make sure they weren’t inadequate. Obviously that type of thinking can very easily create a very tense atmosphere in communities, along with social outcasts, bullying and even harassment. I personally think stuff like that is kinda petty and comes of as insecure and a little weird, and I’d hazard to guess most people agree to a certain extent. Trying to be morally, politically, socially better or be more of an active community member than your neighbor? Why even bother? That’s taking up time and effort to prove… what? Nothing really. Trying to be financially more successful or a better parent or neighbor than them? That seems a little obsessive or insecure. It would probably be more productive not to care and just be yourself but I understand that depending on the type of neighborhood one lives in can greatly affect the them. Some neighborhoods are like that but it’s most likely easier just not to play along. Some neighbors are really braggadocious and annoying but again, probably way easier just to ignore them or tell them you don’t care. As long as it’s more of an internal comparison and you’re not being too obsessive or belittle your neighbor for being “inferior”, you’re probably fine. Don’t make people feel inferior, that’s very mean and unnecessary. Most people just want to do their own thing and not be constantly compared to others. Also, just because you feel this way obviously doesn’t mean that you’re a fascist or a bad person (unless you’re actually mean to, or belittling your neighbor).
Should get Spencer rapone on the podcast. The "commie cadet". He was kicked out of the military for advocating for socialist revolution. ""I consider myself a revolutionary socialist," the 26-year-old Rapone told The Associated Press. "I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement."" Would be a banger episode.
@@hoagielamp6543 That's the usual context of the phrase because many people were killed and maimed by impaired driving for decades before laws came to exist. I'd argue the same lag is happening now with both (white, "middle-class" or better) seniors who drive when medically unable (e.g. eyesight), and drivers who are using opioids (legally or not).
My family is straight out of the Polish People's Republic so our weddings go hard. A couple years ago we had a wedding and funeral in the same weekend, same side of the family also. You could tell who at the funeral was at the wedding the night before. Felt bad for my cousin who couldn't attend since it was her dad's funeral and it would have been a social faux pas for her to be there. My girlfriend is American and I always tear it up at the weddings she brings me to. So much she gets embarrassed. I brought her to a wedding in my family, a cousin that married a Macedonian dude, and she couldn't hang. In American standards a Polish wedding always goes one hour over for more dancing. I did some how pick up on one of the Macedonian circle dances better than a Macedonian dude tho.
@@Skarry At the risk of beating a dead horse, the faux pas would have been to attend the wedding because it would be viewed as improper to celebrate anything in the wake of your parent's...er, wake!
I'm shocked! US Americans don't have a whole night of free and very excessive drinking after every wedding? I'm running out of culture shocks regarding the US.
The music sucks. No one wants to get shit faced because they drove way too far to get there. The music sucks. For some reason they have plans in the morning.
We have that in the UK, but it's literally just a bunch of stereotypical fat Englishman that watches football and beats his kids dancing and getting drunk all night. It is hell.
To the opening conversation there's a song by the band Gogol Bordello (they're gypsy punk and they're amazing~) called American wedding and it's basically everything that Hakim and Yugo said. American weddings suuuuck compared to weddings literally everywhere else in the world
Fun fact! "Bootstrapping" is a common term used in Computer Science/Programming to refer to a compiler (this is what turns programmer code into the 0 and 1s that make your computer do stuff) that can build itself. The compiler will start from some core version, then develop itself further until it can compile any program you want to write.
This is a great day. Hakim and Second Thought uploading on the same day the Deprogram airs. I love it! Makes my Friday evening. What was your lazy ass doing comrade 'King' Yugopnik?
Really looking forward to the next Yugopnik video. No matter when it comes out. Keep up the good work comrades! Red salute and solidarity from Austria! o7
While I agree with the general sentiment of the class-irrelevance of the Oscars, and The Slap, I think it's worth mentioning that the latter is an excellent opportunity, for use as a conversational springboard. Multiple important sub-topics, under the umbrella of race / class conflict and oppression, can be reached more easily via use of the shared cultural experience of The Slap. Otherwise, though, the vast majority of the time, I am also amazed at the importance we've been convinced of. The attention we pay to that "regional film festival" (as the Academy Awards have been derisively described by non-American filmmakers) is absurd. 'Love you guys!
OMG, my friends ! I am watching Red Dawn and thinking about you ! It all started with an innocent random conversation with our 12 year old about the Cold War and how we were taught drastically different things in the 80s about life and basic morality than what we believe now . We ended up renting Red Dawn and watching it as adult is mind blowing . I’m literally floored . Y’all would be able to do an entire episode on the cringe and brutal propaganda in the first 30 minutes alone . And BTW , I lived in Eastern Europe until 89, so I first saw this movie when I was ten or so and even then, I was like… this is some bullshit . Unbelievable.
As someone who owns both a blue yeti microphone and a razor keyboard, and at one point had somewhat reactionary views on gender I am mildly creeped out by that joke
Pretty interestingly, "The Spectacle" is not only a concept brought by the French situationist Guy Debord, but also (quite funnily) a top-notch song of _My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic._ Which brought me into a very important type of soft spectacle you forgot to mention: fandoms (or "consumerist identity"). Also, great nod on 1:16:15 to the shittiest streamer in all "Bread"Tube.
The beginning is such a great example of why the east and west need to come together and we all need to move past capitalism because even parties now are just awkward in the west, our culture of repression (which leads to things like mass shootings and all the other problems) rather than a mix of responsibility and then black out fun at WEDDINGS of all things shows how we need to change society Edit: And we can! Just starts with universeal housing, healthcare, education and transportation Imo, ik that's pretty socdem but I think the US would benifit from social democracy while the rest of the world moves even further on, cuz God damn 2022 and STILL no Medicare for all, the US needs change and it needs it TODAY lol I'll take that and fight for more later over nothing at all and then slow death
The rest of the world can't move on as long as the US doesn't stop being imperialist. So, if your idea of SocDem is like all other SocDem governments ever, no one outside the US will do any better in it. And SocDem programs are always concessions by the capitalist ruling class, which that ruling class can always take back. And will always take back as soon as they get the chance. Two major flaws of Social Democracy.
@@maxmeggeneder8935 oh, for sure. You are absolutely 100% correct. However is there a better and more capible set of actions we can do? All I'm saying is expand class consciousness and set out simple, clear goals universal housing, healthcare education and transportation. These are not easy but they can be attained. The goal is to do them and then keep pushing, democracy in the workplace, strong unions, etc I want the world to be post capitalist as soon as possible, do you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it comrade, truly. Revolution isn't something that will happen until the world is lost and we can end US imperialism by supporting universal services and just not stopping, but please, anything else you have to add or suggest would be highly appreciated
Hello guys, I just wanted to let you know that I Love what you doing (this podcast and its own individual yt channel) I been listening this podcast since the last week while I'm procrastinating in my corporate job, greetings from Mexico
Oh my god I completely forgot about burek. I spent about 4 months in Serbia and Montenegro and in a little village I spent about 3 of those months in the only shop had only one vegetarian pastry and it was a cheese burek. I'd go for a run to the local castle in the mornings and buy burek and yoghurt after and it was so good. Thanks for reviving that memory :)
RE: 42:00 or so, Scandinavian countries (also, Canada and Alaska) have higher rates of antidepressant use because it's dark and cold for half the year.
@@fun_ghoul In Canada we just opened up the requirements for our MAID program (medically assisted dying) to people suffering depression PTSD and various other mental health problems, rather then.... offering social housing, UBI, easy access to mental health care, pharma care ect. It's basically modern day eugenics
My comment commeth to aid the algorithm Enjoying this video because I just came from ContraPoints' video on opulence. Interesting to see another perspective on it...
@@figurefiguras4104 ? Pray, how do you make that out? Some might consider her style 'gaudy' or 'tasteless', but I don't! I like her fashion and video style, and her videos are genuinely informative and entertaining.
@@theregalproletariat Contrapoints is liberal garbage. If you're a Marxist, please engage your critical thinking skills. If not...uh, you might wanna look into it!
Chelsea boots, like the kind that don't have laces and just have the sort of black elastic panels on the sides, have a strap on the back to pull them on.
i was listening to this episode on spotify but i kinda thought about this while you were talking about social media and dealing with alienation and such through it so i hopped on youtube cause you can comment here i’m still in highschool but right now i’m taking a class in psychology and we’ve learned about the effect of positive intermittent reinforcement and all of that stuff and i kinda wanted to add that along with convincing yourself that you’re the person that you’ve constructed for people on the internet to see, you receive positive reinforcement from that social validation that becomes a distraction for you down to the chemistry of your brain also social media and other internet products were designed be be addictive and incredibly mentally stimulating (again, on a chemical level) so i feel like that would factor into this phenomenon where people at large escape from alienation via the internet/technology i recently watched a documentary that used this psychological lens while looking at why people are so addicted to the internet and one psychologist referred to it as a “digital pacifier”. although she referred to it like that in a different context, as this documentary didn’t take a Marxist approach to the commodification of our attention, i think that thinking about it in that way can help in our understanding of the internet as an escape from alienation. side note: i referred to it as the commodification of attention as tech companies have created a business model through advertising that commodifies our time/attention/views it’s interesting to me that many people’s mental escape from the burden of capitalism is a direct contributor to it wahoo capitalism
"Can't see the forest THROUGH the trees." It means that you're looking for the forest, and all you see are trees. So you're struggling to find the thing that you're looking for but you're looking right at it. It describes a situation where you may be overthinking the solution and missing the thing that's in front of you. Not necessarily a big picture vs small picture thing but also not that it doesn't apply at all.
@@Tetragrammaton22 "Through the trees" doesn't make sense in the analogy, because it's the SEEING of the trees that keeps you from perceiving the broader forest.
@The Deprogram I've listened to almost all your episodes and in one of the last ones you mentioned you don't know why it's a white picket fence. I don't know for sure, but I have a theory that it's white harkening back to old days because number one, you can afford to paint your wooden fence, and number two, you can afford to *keep* it white in a time when there was dust and mud and everything flying.
On the topic of social competition and outdoing people, im just frankly honest my life isnt exactly great. Im healthy, and my base needs are met, but none of my psychological ones. This seems to break that cycle of 'instagraming' their life and presenting a rose tinted illusion
@thedeprogram9999 I have had the opposite experience. War first, then radicalization. I was in Baghdad and saw how Dick Cheney's company Haliburton rolled in and privatized all of Hakim's people's resources. I was lost after that until I found Karl Marx and found out what I was principally.💯
Could you please cover environmentalism. I think socialism is very compatible with an environmentalist perspective, but I see this almost never covered on socialist youtube channels.
Check out Second Thought (who is on this podcast, Our Changing Climate, and Andrewism. I hope they do an episode too (it would be SO good I know it) but this might help scratch that itch, if you don't already know about these channels.
Generally most people who are genuine leftists are also very pro LGBT rights. (I am enby and AroAce myself) unfortunatly I don't know much modern theory so I can't really tell you where to start reading sorry.
Historically speaking LGBT rights in past specialist experiments were not that good by today's standards but in some cases they were even somewhat ahead of their times.
Hi guys. First of all - love your work. Each channel individually, and especially those combined arms streams. A bit of a random question. What do you think about "Hardspace: Shipbreaker"? It is a video game with kind of simplistic gameplay. You have to navigate a ship. Interact with designated weak spots to break it up into parts and then sort those parts into 3 categories. The more parts you allocate correctly, the more money you "earn". And you have to do this avoiding some additional hazards like getting eletricuted, blown up by raptured fuel line, or getting thrown into the furnace or far away into open space. But the most endearing part of it is - the game actually has leftist aspects to it. For starters - it has a ton on the nose humor about safety or even survival of the player character not being a priority for the corporation. Then there is a good analogy for alienation. Starting with you starting off with a 1.5 billion money in debt and you don't even own the tools you use - you have to pay rent for them. And you get like paid like 1% of the actual value of the commodities you produce (or in this case salvage). Or that not even your body is no longer your own and at any point the corporation ca terminate it and maybe print out a fresh copy. And finally the game got an actual story that revolves around you and your colleagues trying to build a union...
1:19:33 what a great point. my brother and sister and law have the idea that in cuba you can't speak agaisnt the government and in china there's not political freedom but they don't look here at home. totally oblivious to what actually goes on there or what the people who live there have to say (they only like to reference people who "escaped communism" and its doesn't help my parents think the ussr fell because of socialism; they are from there and left in the mid 90s). of course when all you consume is western news though, you're gonna think in one of the ways they want you to. the spectacle at work
Huge fan of the show but I think y'all should be more careful when discussing matters of mental health and treatment. Telling your fans anything that could be construed as "getting treatment for mental illness is undermining class consciousness" is really dangerous.
I: Seconding this. Plus, the suicide joke at the beginning of one episode (I think it was BS jobs, but not sure) was a poorly thought-out thing to include
"In Canada we just opened up the requirements for our MAID program (medically assisted dying) to people suffering depression PTSD and various other mental health problems, rather then.... offering social housing, UBI, easy access to mental health care, pharma care ect. "
I disagree, I think that you should be that cynical. Even if that wasn't how it began, the moment the spectacle began to work, they need to cook up a time-serving program of "bread and circuses" to basically hypnotise as many people as possible. It's real, it's calculated as a torturer's thought process, it's RBTV (from Rocky and Bullwinkle) on steroids.
I prefer something like what comrade @Hatai Toksoy does on another commie channel. Though how they manage to get there before everyone else the majority of the time beats me. 😆 His response is usually something like 👍✊🚩. Simple as.😉
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"Somebody came and corrupted your idea of the spectacle of the oscars through an act of physical violence on screen an yet you react even though, just to organize that, just to put the food on the table and create the wine that they’re drinking on those tables there had to be labor violence on hundreds if not thousands of people..." banger by Yugopnik
Drinking at 8 am to show solidarity with Yugopnik. 🍻
Me smoking cigarettes and drinking at 3am for the same reason
Me taking bong rips to show solidarity ✊
Going to detox at 11 PM in solidarity with Yugopnik 👌 he jokes about his alcoholism but I remember him mentioning not drinking for like 8 days straight and I don't remember the last time I did that
High as balls to show solidarity. ✊️
drink at it's 8am somewhere because capitalism only allows this brief reprieve.
The cynical part of me believes that a lot of the LGBT+ acceptance under capitalism in recent years has come from the realization that we make great consumers. Many of us were already alienated from society at a young age, and as adults we're more likely to have a bit more disposable income than our straight counterparts that are saddled with socially mandated crotch goblins. Slap a rainbow on some random consumer good it and suddenly that brand can do no wrong.
Capitalism co-opts everything it touches to maintain it's existence, it is a tumor, on our species, and the planet as a whole
It's true. You show a bit of kindness to someone used to being kicked around, and they open their hearts, wallets...and that's not all! 😂
It's also just the seizing of a real popular movment by institutional structures. Like Lenin said that one time about how revolutionary thinkers are adopted and neutered by the state ideology as has been done with figures like MLK in America
"crotch goblins"
ugh
Edit: pardon me for wanting a kid
I can't stand Pride anymore because it's brought to you by Anheuser Busch and is full of cops with little rainbow flags.
Spot on with the overmedication rather than looking at systemic issues, modern psychiatry is an absolute sham
the rant on over diagnosis & medication was one of hakims best yet
I wonder how many MDs self-censor over this all the time...
@@fun_ghoul depends on if they try to think deeper on causes of depressive feelings I guess, i'm sure most do
@@normalizenatalieI reckon the way around it comrade is case by case
Wow, a brand new episode! Hello, people with notifications on:)
The whole "I have to be better than my neighbor" is internalized fascism.
I barely know my neighbors, it's probably just as bad though.
@@themaninblack2724 That's just ol' fashioned capitalist alienation
Could you explain how? I have this problem pretty heavily and im trying to learn more
@@jdjdjdj1275 A lot of nazi propaganda emphasized the “quality” of “the aryan man” seeing as being aryans was the nazis main justification for their horrific crimes. And by “quality” I mean propaganda about the height and stature, muscular figure and symmetrical face of “the aryan man”, as well as a huge focus on his contributions to the country by being a “moral” citizen and having a “good work ethic”. They also had tons of propaganda about women having an obligation to bring up tons of kids and raise them in a state that would make them suitable as examples of “fine aryans”, as well as being good housekeepers, etc. They also had a bunch of propaganda about being builders of society and being superior to all other peoples. This type of rhetoric certainly makes a lot of people feel the need to live up to this fictional aryan man/woman (obviously only “traditional” genders and gender roles were accepted). Probably made the citizens very anxious about being subpar and feeling a need to constantly compare themselves to the people around them to make sure they weren’t inadequate. Obviously that type of thinking can very easily create a very tense atmosphere in communities, along with social outcasts, bullying and even harassment.
I personally think stuff like that is kinda petty and comes of as insecure and a little weird, and I’d hazard to guess most people agree to a certain extent. Trying to be morally, politically, socially better or be more of an active community member than your neighbor? Why even bother? That’s taking up time and effort to prove… what? Nothing really. Trying to be financially more successful or a better parent or neighbor than them? That seems a little obsessive or insecure. It would probably be more productive not to care and just be yourself but I understand that depending on the type of neighborhood one lives in can greatly affect the them. Some neighborhoods are like that but it’s most likely easier just not to play along. Some neighbors are really braggadocious and annoying but again, probably way easier just to ignore them or tell them you don’t care. As long as it’s more of an internal comparison and you’re not being too obsessive or belittle your neighbor for being “inferior”, you’re probably fine. Don’t make people feel inferior, that’s very mean and unnecessary. Most people just want to do their own thing and not be constantly compared to others. Also, just because you feel this way obviously doesn’t mean that you’re a fascist or a bad person (unless you’re actually mean to, or belittling your neighbor).
Should get Spencer rapone on the podcast. The "commie cadet". He was kicked out of the military for advocating for socialist revolution. ""I consider myself a revolutionary socialist," the 26-year-old Rapone told The Associated Press. "I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement.""
Would be a banger episode.
Trumps best quote is “I’m gonna come”
I don't know why it's so funny especially how he says it.
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I love H and Y deriding the notion of "responsible drinking".
With reference to driving LOL, important context.
@@hoagielamp6543 That's the usual context of the phrase because many people were killed and maimed by impaired driving for decades before laws came to exist. I'd argue the same lag is happening now with both (white, "middle-class" or better) seniors who drive when medically unable (e.g. eyesight), and drivers who are using opioids (legally or not).
@@hoagielamp6543 The phrase "responsible drinking" was probably coined in the boardroom of a booze company.
Bootstraps are the loops near the opening of the boot that you can pull to help you get them on.
My family is straight out of the Polish People's Republic so our weddings go hard. A couple years ago we had a wedding and funeral in the same weekend, same side of the family also. You could tell who at the funeral was at the wedding the night before. Felt bad for my cousin who couldn't attend since it was her dad's funeral and it would have been a social faux pas for her to be there.
My girlfriend is American and I always tear it up at the weddings she brings me to. So much she gets embarrassed. I brought her to a wedding in my family, a cousin that married a Macedonian dude, and she couldn't hang. In American standards a Polish wedding always goes one hour over for more dancing. I did some how pick up on one of the Macedonian circle dances better than a Macedonian dude tho.
Why would it be a faux pas for your cousin to attend her father's funeral?
@@Skarry ... with a hangover. Attend her father's funeral with a hangover.
@@Skarry guess I worded that badly. She couldn't attend the wedding since her dad's funeral was the next day.
@@Skarry At the risk of beating a dead horse, the faux pas would have been to attend the wedding because it would be viewed as improper to celebrate anything in the wake of your parent's...er, wake!
I was waiting my entire shift for my fix to drop and y'all hit me at the gym
I'm shocked! US Americans don't have a whole night of free and very excessive drinking after every wedding?
I'm running out of culture shocks regarding the US.
The music sucks. No one wants to get shit faced because they drove way too far to get there. The music sucks. For some reason they have plans in the morning.
I've never been to a wedding without a night of drinking. Usually at someone's house after the wedding.
We have that in the UK, but it's literally just a bunch of stereotypical fat Englishman that watches football and beats his kids dancing and getting drunk all night. It is hell.
من حكيم حچا عن الأعراس لول، نفس السوالف بكل العراق
To the opening conversation there's a song by the band Gogol Bordello (they're gypsy punk and they're amazing~) called American wedding and it's basically everything that Hakim and Yugo said. American weddings suuuuck compared to weddings literally everywhere else in the world
Worked at weddings as a teenager in a diverse part of New Jersey, that song is truth.
Fun fact! "Bootstrapping" is a common term used in Computer Science/Programming to refer to a compiler (this is what turns programmer code into the 0 and 1s that make your computer do stuff) that can build itself. The compiler will start from some core version, then develop itself further until it can compile any program you want to write.
This is a great day. Hakim and Second Thought uploading on the same day the Deprogram airs.
I love it! Makes my Friday evening.
What was your lazy ass doing comrade 'King' Yugopnik?
Really looking forward to the next Yugopnik video. No matter when it comes out.
Keep up the good work comrades!
Red salute and solidarity from Austria!
o7
While I agree with the general sentiment of the class-irrelevance of the Oscars, and The Slap, I think it's worth mentioning that the latter is an excellent opportunity, for use as a conversational springboard. Multiple important sub-topics, under the umbrella of race / class conflict and oppression, can be reached more easily via use of the shared cultural experience of The Slap.
Otherwise, though, the vast majority of the time, I am also amazed at the importance we've been convinced of. The attention we pay to that "regional film festival" (as the Academy Awards have been derisively described by non-American filmmakers) is absurd.
'Love you guys!
OMG, my friends ! I am watching Red Dawn and thinking about you ! It all started with an innocent random conversation with our 12 year old about the Cold War and how we were taught drastically different things in the 80s about life and basic morality than what we believe now . We ended up renting Red Dawn and watching it as adult is mind blowing . I’m literally floored . Y’all would be able to do an entire episode on the cringe and brutal propaganda in the first 30 minutes alone . And BTW , I lived in Eastern Europe until 89, so I first saw this movie when I was ten or so and even then, I was like… this is some bullshit . Unbelievable.
Thanks for bootstrapping this wonderful episode.
"It's not a Deprogram episode if there's not a joke about school shooting" 😂 I love y'all so much. Also I would marry Hakim or Yugopnik ❤️
Why not both?
As someone who owns both a blue yeti microphone and a razor keyboard, and at one point had somewhat reactionary views on gender I am mildly creeped out by that joke
Hey the Yeti is a solid mic for the price 🤷♂️
Facts. Don't let yourself become distracted.
Pretty interestingly, "The Spectacle" is not only a concept brought by the French situationist Guy Debord, but also (quite funnily) a top-notch song of _My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic._ Which brought me into a very important type of soft spectacle you forgot to mention: fandoms (or "consumerist identity").
Also, great nod on 1:16:15 to the shittiest streamer in all "Bread"Tube.
wait wait who??? plss tell me!!
@@thekage100 Search for "Talking to a Former NATO Special Operations Officer About The Russia/Ukraine Conflict".
Macedonian here, the joke (as far as I know) goes "can I have a small heart attack?". Maybe Zizek heard a different version don't know.
Sweet. Just what I needed.
I remember that joke as the guy handing the Genie a stick and asking to be beaten half to death.
yaaay a new episode
A wedding only lasting until 11pm and then having to drunk drive home sounds awful omg
Schadenfreude is the German word for when US veterans get back home missing a leg and get turned down for medical benefits or college or whatever
Really excited to listen to this
The beginning is such a great example of why the east and west need to come together and we all need to move past capitalism because even parties now are just awkward in the west, our culture of repression (which leads to things like mass shootings and all the other problems) rather than a mix of responsibility and then black out fun at WEDDINGS of all things shows how we need to change society
Edit: And we can! Just starts with universeal housing, healthcare, education and transportation Imo, ik that's pretty socdem but I think the US would benifit from social democracy while the rest of the world moves even further on, cuz God damn 2022 and STILL no Medicare for all, the US needs change and it needs it TODAY lol I'll take that and fight for more later over nothing at all and then slow death
The rest of the world can't move on as long as the US doesn't stop being imperialist.
So, if your idea of SocDem is like all other SocDem governments ever, no one outside the US will do any better in it. And SocDem programs are always concessions by the capitalist ruling class, which that ruling class can always take back.
And will always take back as soon as they get the chance.
Two major flaws of Social Democracy.
@@maxmeggeneder8935 oh, for sure. You are absolutely 100% correct. However is there a better and more capible set of actions we can do? All I'm saying is expand class consciousness and set out simple, clear goals universal housing, healthcare education and transportation. These are not easy but they can be attained. The goal is to do them and then keep pushing, democracy in the workplace, strong unions, etc I want the world to be post capitalist as soon as possible, do you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it comrade, truly. Revolution isn't something that will happen until the world is lost and we can end US imperialism by supporting universal services and just not stopping, but please, anything else you have to add or suggest would be highly appreciated
Greetings from Ottawa (but not the one in Wisconsin).
Hello guys, I just wanted to let you know that I Love what you doing (this podcast and its own individual yt channel) I been listening this podcast since the last week while I'm procrastinating in my corporate job, greetings from Mexico
Oh my god I completely forgot about burek. I spent about 4 months in Serbia and Montenegro and in a little village I spent about 3 of those months in the only shop had only one vegetarian pastry and it was a cheese burek. I'd go for a run to the local castle in the mornings and buy burek and yoghurt after and it was so good. Thanks for reviving that memory :)
If we get two thousand views can we get Hakim to sing Gaddafi's Libyan anthem?
...I like boiled cabbage 🤷🏽♀️
Cabbage in soups is amazing. Makes every bite heartier.
i love you guys😻
Hakim should write a thesis on Socialism as preventative medicine
RE: 42:00 or so, Scandinavian countries (also, Canada and Alaska) have higher rates of antidepressant use because it's dark and cold for half the year.
(Also, it's cheaper for governments to pay a GP to write a script than to pay a psychologist for an hour of therapy. Universal healthcare ftw! Lol)
@@fun_ghoul In Canada we just opened up the requirements for our MAID program (medically assisted dying) to people suffering depression PTSD and various other mental health problems, rather then.... offering social housing, UBI, easy access to mental health care, pharma care ect.
It's basically modern day eugenics
Also lots of alcohol and caffeine consumption, at least in Canada.
@@Tetragrammaton22 Cannabis and caffeine for me here in Ottawa.
@@florafox3414 True. "The Final Solution" for obsolete workers.
lol you guys forgot to post this ep on spotify :)
Edit : it is up on Spotify , thanks :P
Fuck Spotify
@@-kaster--kaster-6090 Yes, but we should use all the tools at our disposal to best the capitalist pigs
@@-kaster--kaster-6090 I got Spotify on my jeans the other day. It won't come off.
@@-kaster--kaster-6090 ???
greetings from Cali!
My comment commeth to aid the algorithm
Enjoying this video because I just came from ContraPoints' video on opulence.
Interesting to see another perspective on it...
ContraPoints is garbage
@@figurefiguras4104 ?
Pray, how do you make that out?
Some might consider her style 'gaudy' or 'tasteless', but I don't!
I like her fashion and video style, and her videos are genuinely informative and entertaining.
@@figurefiguras4104 why is that?
@@theregalproletariat Contrapoints is liberal garbage. If you're a Marxist, please engage your critical thinking skills. If not...uh, you might wanna look into it!
The Contras were garbage
Chelsea boots, like the kind that don't have laces and just have the sort of black elastic panels on the sides, have a strap on the back to pull them on.
I'm getting a surprising amount of ads given the content y'all make, hope you're getting paid for em
I'm British and I don't get the hype about the royals either.
i was listening to this episode on spotify but i kinda thought about this while you were talking about social media and dealing with alienation and such through it so i hopped on youtube cause you can comment here
i’m still in highschool but right now i’m taking a class in psychology and we’ve learned about the effect of positive intermittent reinforcement and all of that stuff and i kinda wanted to add that along with convincing yourself that you’re the person that you’ve constructed for people on the internet to see, you receive positive reinforcement from that social validation that becomes a distraction for you down to the chemistry of your brain
also social media and other internet products were designed be be addictive and incredibly mentally stimulating (again, on a chemical level) so i feel like that would factor into this phenomenon where people at large escape from alienation via the internet/technology
i recently watched a documentary that used this psychological lens while looking at why people are so addicted to the internet and one psychologist referred to it as a “digital pacifier”. although she referred to it like that in a different context, as this documentary didn’t take a Marxist approach to the commodification of our attention, i think that thinking about it in that way can help in our understanding of the internet as an escape from alienation.
side note:
i referred to it as the commodification of attention as tech companies have created a business model through advertising that commodifies our time/attention/views
it’s interesting to me that many people’s mental escape from the burden of capitalism is a direct contributor to it
wahoo capitalism
"Can't see the forest THROUGH the trees." It means that you're looking for the forest, and all you see are trees. So you're struggling to find the thing that you're looking for but you're looking right at it. It describes a situation where you may be overthinking the solution and missing the thing that's in front of you. Not necessarily a big picture vs small picture thing but also not that it doesn't apply at all.
It's "forest for the trees", wherein "for" is old-timey English for "because (of)". You have the rest correct, tho.
@@fun_ghoul I don't think I've ever heard it that way before. I've always known it was through, rather than for. 🤷♂
@@Tetragrammaton22 "Through the trees" doesn't make sense in the analogy, because it's the SEEING of the trees that keeps you from perceiving the broader forest.
@@Tetragrammaton22 Funny. Never heard the "through" version.
The Žižek joke was about Slovenians who are envious misers.
Many boots have a strap at the back of them. It's a loop that you put your finger through and pull your boot onto your foot with it.
@The Deprogram
I've listened to almost all your episodes and in one of the last ones you mentioned you don't know why it's a white picket fence. I don't know for sure, but I have a theory that it's white harkening back to old days because number one, you can afford to paint your wooden fence, and number two, you can afford to *keep* it white in a time when there was dust and mud and everything flying.
Yugopnik's description of "celebrity worship" also sounds like a description of the democratic process
NOOOO not my basement femboy!
You fools! I AM the Femboy in my basement uwu
On the topic of social competition and outdoing people, im just frankly honest my life isnt exactly great. Im healthy, and my base needs are met, but none of my psychological ones. This seems to break that cycle of 'instagraming' their life and presenting a rose tinted illusion
That Steven Hawking joke hasn't aged too well 😂
It seems episode 23, isn’t available, was it deleted or was removed by TH-cam?
They counted the first livestream as an episode that's why there's no 23.
59:50 as a member of the lgbt community i can confirm our entire existence is based around corrupting billy.
@thedeprogram9999 I have had the opposite experience. War first, then radicalization. I was in Baghdad and saw how Dick Cheney's company Haliburton rolled in and privatized all of Hakim's people's resources. I was lost after that until I found Karl Marx and found out what I was principally.💯
Could you please cover environmentalism. I think socialism is very compatible with an environmentalist perspective, but I see this almost never covered on socialist youtube channels.
Check out Second Thought (who is on this podcast, Our Changing Climate, and Andrewism. I hope they do an episode too (it would be SO good I know it) but this might help scratch that itch, if you don't already know about these channels.
hey can you guys make a episode on lgbt rights under communism and what they would be like compared to capitalism, i think it would be a great idea
You seem super insufferable
Generally most people who are genuine leftists are also very pro LGBT rights. (I am enby and AroAce myself) unfortunatly I don't know much modern theory so I can't really tell you where to start reading sorry.
Historically speaking LGBT rights in past specialist experiments were not that good by today's standards but in some cases they were even somewhat ahead of their times.
@@afox4254 yeah thanks for educating me
Finally
Surprised JT didn't bring up the Smash Brothers stereotype about showers. ;)
Hi guys.
First of all - love your work. Each channel individually, and especially those combined arms streams.
A bit of a random question. What do you think about "Hardspace: Shipbreaker"?
It is a video game with kind of simplistic gameplay. You have to navigate a ship. Interact with designated weak spots to break it up into parts and then sort those parts into 3 categories. The more parts you allocate correctly, the more money you "earn". And you have to do this avoiding some additional hazards like getting eletricuted, blown up by raptured fuel line, or getting thrown into the furnace or far away into open space.
But the most endearing part of it is - the game actually has leftist aspects to it.
For starters - it has a ton on the nose humor about safety or even survival of the player character not being a priority for the corporation.
Then there is a good analogy for alienation. Starting with you starting off with a 1.5 billion money in debt and you don't even own the tools you use - you have to pay rent for them. And you get like paid like 1% of the actual value of the commodities you produce (or in this case salvage). Or that not even your body is no longer your own and at any point the corporation ca terminate it and maybe print out a fresh copy.
And finally the game got an actual story that revolves around you and your colleagues trying to build a union...
Not to mention the Amber Heard/ Johnny Depp trial.
I just finished Epi #20 with Alan MacLeod...bomb.
40:46 1:05:17🤣🤣love it
The spectacle is the guardian of sleep
Yo, le français ce n'est pas une perte de temps 😉
Keep on good work comrades
Is there no episode 23?
Hakim has contracted chronic pnuancia
What happened to ep 23
I'm wondering too where tf did it go
oh it's the live episode "The 1st Deprogram Live "Episode" Ft. The Trio"
1:19:33 what a great point. my brother and sister and law have the idea that in cuba you can't speak agaisnt the government and in china there's not political freedom but they don't look here at home. totally oblivious to what actually goes on there or what the people who live there have to say (they only like to reference people who "escaped communism" and its doesn't help my parents think the ussr fell because of socialism; they are from there and left in the mid 90s). of course when all you consume is western news though, you're gonna think in one of the ways they want you to. the spectacle at work
1:04:16 yeah that stereotype is way off, not everyone has a sister
loterally 1983 totalitarian algorithm
Did he say shawarma with tahina?
Haha JT is a boomer. "Spill the tea" means "spill the drama" not spill the beans. Silly old man
28:12 it was a slovenian farmer: th-cam.com/video/QAax58vccAk/w-d-xo.html
Hello
Hi
How you doing, friend?
@@theregalproletariat sorry just saw your reply.
I'm good btw, wbu.
Huge fan of the show but I think y'all should be more careful when discussing matters of mental health and treatment. Telling your fans anything that could be construed as "getting treatment for mental illness is undermining class consciousness" is really dangerous.
I: Seconding this. Plus, the suicide joke at the beginning of one episode (I think it was BS jobs, but not sure) was a poorly thought-out thing to include
"In Canada we just opened up the requirements for our MAID program (medically assisted dying) to people suffering depression PTSD and various other mental health problems, rather then.... offering social housing, UBI, easy access to mental health care, pharma care ect. "
More this less Vowsh please
I disagree, I think that you should be that cynical. Even if that wasn't how it began, the moment the spectacle began to work, they need to cook up a time-serving program of "bread and circuses" to basically hypnotise as many people as possible. It's real, it's calculated as a torturer's thought process, it's RBTV (from Rocky and Bullwinkle) on steroids.
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You don't even call them *North* Macedonians Yugopnik? Kalimera kalispera malaka.
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We don't do that here, comrade
Unless it's a sacrifice to the algorithm
@@theregalproletariat it's better if people don't gatekeep the comment section - thanks bb
I prefer something like what comrade @Hatai Toksoy does on another commie channel. Though how they manage to get there before everyone else the majority of the time beats me. 😆
His response is usually something like 👍✊🚩. Simple as.😉
@@UCm0i6w5lBlRthCtZEoj99tg You were second, but if a Marxist, second among equals.
Hakim is so right about ululating 😂😂😂😂 every Xhosa celebration has a bunch of women ululating 😂😂😂