Great work, did see these stories flying around. As someone who was born and raised in an Hindu family, I would say Jesus would only have rebuked such practices instead of following them. Keep up the good work, God bless you!
@@JesusSaves77799he said that because they gave a few bags of rice to this man's family and then they happily converted to the other religion and you know he works for that convertor proving he's able to commit magic like healing illnesses and making leg less people walk 😁
@@psynda😂😂😂 basically u confessed that all Hindus are either poor or gluttons and stingy people..... Cannot even provide basic food for their fellow religionists.😂😂😂😂
I had a World History professor at a University ask where Mary and Joseph took Jesus when Herod was trying to kill him, and when I answered Egypt, she said "Well that's one claim, but it's actually more likely that Mary and Joseph took him to India and raised him there." and then proceeded to try and show all of the ways Jesus was influenced by Hinduism. I was baffled where that came from, and that it was being taught as fact. Thanks for refuting this theory so succinctly.
Everything about Jesus is refuted. His skin colour, his birth, his education, his marriage, his escape, and finally his and his mothers tomb. So, is the foundation of Christianity based on a myriad of untruths?
There was no mistery of the lost years of Jesus life from 12 years old to 30 years old . The Bible clearly says where Jesus was during that period . Luke 2 verse 39 : When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. Jesus was in Nazareth . Verse 40 : And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was on him. Jesus did not go anywhere but stay in Nazareth . As He is the Son of God , grace of God was on Him and due to the grace He grew healthy and God gave Him wisdom and knowledge . Luke 4:16 : He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read. Jesus grew in Nazareth , not grew in other places , let along going abroad either to India or England or somewhere else . Mark 6 : 1- 3 : Jesus left there and went to his hometown, accompanied by his disciples. 2 When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed. “Where did this man get these things?” they asked. “What’s this wisdom that has been given him? What are these remarkable miracles he is performing? 3 Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph,[a] Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him. Jesus was well known to his neighbours and the people of Nazareth as a carpenter , just like his human father Joseph who was also a carpenter . If Jesus was away for years and not seen in his hometown , it would have been mentioned by the people in his hometown . From these verses it was clear that Jesus did not go anywhere but stay with Joseph and Mary in Nazareth , grew there , become a carpenter and well known by the people there before starting His mission of salvation ...
In Matthew 2:13-23, an angel appears to Joseph in a dream and tells him to flee to Egypt with Mary and Jesus. The family left immediately and remained in Egypt until Herod died, then returned to Israel.
Great video! I just subscribed to your channel and I'm loving it! What do you say to people who say that Hinduism is the oldest religion? My brother-in-law brought this up when we were debating over religion. He said therefore Christianity isn't true. I know that that's a lie but I didn't know exactly how to respond to this.
@@TheAmberHarvey Hinduism is ancient indo-European religion there gods like Dyuas pitar and wodan sound similar to the gods of ancient European religions like deus or Zeus and Odin However they were able to protect themself from Abrahamic cults
Luke 4:16 He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, "where he had been brought up" "As was his custom", a custom or tradition is something an individual is following for a long period. That means he was reading in synagogue since his brought up years. He never came to India. If he did he would have preached polytheism too.
If Thomas made it to India as an apostle ofcourse Christ could. I don't know about learning a particular religion but the route of India's religion is Dharam which translates to Compassion which Christ had in abundance. Peace
The evidence for Thomas' travel to India is likewise secondary and historically shaky. However, unlike the few later stories we have of Thomas going to India, we have nothing until the 1800s that even hints that Jesus left Roman occupied Israel during his lifetime. All accounts of Jesus' teaching that can be historically connected to the century he lived are thoroughly Jewish. Both the Hindu and Buddhist concepts of dharmic peace are mutually exclusive to the teachings of the historic Jesus we find in the Gospels.
@@WesHuff you should visit Chennai in India to see how the claimed St Thomas's relics and places of residing and of rest are of which Thomas of Chennai 52ad
@@WesHuffI agree with you that scripture does not point to any evidence he travelled to these places; however I was a little off put by the question you opened with which was “well that’s a weird question”. Especially since it’s not far fetched to connect some of the same principles His messages share including compassion, wisdom, materialism, inner life, temptation, salvation, the future, miracles, discipleship. No, they are not all the same and many very different, but it’s not “weird” to wonder about whether or not He travelled or even taught in other places. Furthermore, I believe the breadth and width of His entire message could not have been transcribed by the number of Jewish/Greek/Latin scribes or further editing done by the Catholic Church- something many Protestants fail to see took place.
0:40 that's hilarious. Did someone who believed in God and believed himself to be God borrow from a religion that is rather anti-theist (even if poorly with weak arguments)? I'll go with no.
Well, technically, as I understand it, both from the college course I took on Buddhism and my interaction with an 'anti-theist,' Buddhism teaches that the existence or non-existence of God is 'a question not leading to enlightenment,' with the whole goal of Buddhism (which also teaches reincarnation--as many times as it takes for you to reach enlightenment and achieve whatever Nirvana is, unless you choose to stay behind in this world of non-stop suffering caused by desire and help everyone else get enlightened too, which makes you a Boddhisatva) is 'Enlightenment,' as Wes described it. Whereas my father, who's been a Christian, an agnostic, an atheist, an _evangelical_ atheist, and has finally 'graduated' to being a self-proclaimed *anti-theist* is not content simply not to believe in God or to leave it as an unanswered/unanswerable question, but to actively reject and _attack_ Christianity and Christians like myself. He doesn't target other gods, only the Judeo/Christian one and His followers.
PS: Wes, maybe this is a question you can answer for me that I've been grappling with for several years now: At what point does 'honoring our father [and mother],' obeying them, etc., get overridden by a parent's anti-theism as I've just described above? When do I get to stop obeying my father when he demands that I not mention Christianity in his presence--as has have my sister and her husband, and by implication, their children--or face the blasphemous consequences? I know I can still shake the dust from my feet and pray for him from afar, but does the commandment to obey him ever get overridden by the mere mention of Christianity eliciting a tirade blasphemy against the Holy Spirit from him? I had to do battle with him to have a pastor present at the 'Informal Farewell Gathering' three days after her death before that they planned entirely without consulting me--in fact, attempting to _exclude_ me from being present, for my Christian mother, who passed away this past November ... and fortunately succeeded by telling him neither _my_ wishes _nor_ his are relevant; it's my _mother's_ wishes that were to be honored, gave him examples of her Christian beliefs and actions, and told him she would be _appalled_ at the thought of not even getting a Christian blessing said over her body before she was unceremoniously rushed to the crematory (even though he told me there was no such thing as a soul). In fact, I'm not entirely sure where I got all the 'right' words to say from, they just spilled out of me onto his answering machine, and I was surprised they actually worked for once! . He is an abusive narcissist, and I'm his designated 'scapegoat,' _still_ at nearly 60 years of age. Narcissism is notoriously hard if not impossible to treat by psychology or _any_ means and gets more entrenched with age as it becomes the essence of the person's personality. Also, narcissists are incapable of LOVE, which is a sign that they do not know God, nor do they _want_ to, while we are told to avoid evil. Could he be demonically possessed, and is there anything I can do about it? At what point does Psalm 27:10 kick in? ("If my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will take me up." I actually want to get that tattooed on my forearm so I can be reminded of it every depressing day of the rest of my depressing 'life' of non-stop suffering.) . Not sure whether you'll see this since I don't know how to 'tag' someone on TH-cam, but I'd really appreciate your response.
@@mooncove Well, technically, there's no you or anyone else to help in this world either. I'm too lazy to look them up, but one of the books on Buddhism goes through arguments by Buddhists arguing against the possibility of god existing. I'd say it's also implicit in their belief in Atman. I wasn't thinking of anti-theist in the sense of them being militant. Since you've studied it, any books you'd recommend?
PS: None of them are speaking to me anyway ... except for my father on and off or sending me messages through my husband. As a 'covert' or 'greater' narcissist depending on which expert you consult here on TH-cam, my father is attempting yet another of his neverending 'malign hoover's intended to wound me yet AGAIN. Absolutely nothing I do or say or think, like, believe, don't like, _don't_ do, etc., will ever meet with his approval; he's come out and _said_ so and formally disowned me as his daughter in writing more than once ... only to come back, pretend to have changed, and abuse me all over again, repeating the same process until he finally _meets_ God and doesn't get a chance to say he's sorry. And his being 'wrong' is just _not_ in a narcissist's ability to process mentally when the evidence is staring them in the face! (If you were to watch any of H.G. Tudor, the 'Ultra' narcissist's, videos that explain narcissism in copious detail, it would give you an idea of what I'm talking about, as well as the narcissist's own thoughts, although it kind of depends on the 'type' of narcissist, to wit: th-cam.com/video/nT6EWIVuruI/w-d-xo.html I'm almost certain that he would come under the category of a 'greater' or 'covert' narcissist. And the reason it's incurable, except via a miracle, is because 'Narcissistic Personality Disorder' is more than a mental illness; it's a defect of _personality_ and usually a lifelong one that starts in early childhood in which LOVE is rejected as a weakness.) . Not only that, but, before it ever dawned on me that he was a narcissist since he's so good at hiding it, and as the scapegoat child of a narcissist, you actually _believe_ what the narcissist tells you about yourself, including that you're not just a bad person, but crazy (because they've _driven_ you crazy and know exactly how to push all your buttons to make you look crazy to others--e.g., induce a panic attack--right on cue because they _put_ them there in the first place!), and before he really stepped up his abuse of my mother in order to back up his claim that she already had dementia, using her pre-existing, stress-related conditions of high blood pressure and diabetes to give her the vascular dementia that finally killed her after 4-5 years after it started to manifest, I had already bought the house next door to him, where I'm now stuck because my husband and I can't afford to move. So the prescribed 'cure' for narcissistic abuse (which _all_ the experts agree on) of 'no contact' is impossible with him). Also, of course, I don't want him or my sister or nieces (who have undergone the same kind of abuse I have due to their own parents' being narcissists) to go to hell. (Also, he's been listening or reading too much Richard Dawkins and other atheists' work, which is entirely uninformed and ridiculous, e.g., adding a fourth 'mother' figure to the 'TRI-nity' and he knows enough Latin to KNOW that it's ridiculous! And I don't want to repeat about what he said about the Holy Spirit, except to say that he thinks the whole thing was made up by a 'priest' in the 300s to keep the people in line. . He also wanted me to read a website called 'God is imaginary,' which I resisted at first but then finally decided to take a peek ... and was easily able to debunk almost every argument on the site without even thinking about it--based entirely on what I _have_ read of the Bible and simple logic alone! Seriously, anyone who's a real Christian here, have a look at it and scoff at its supposed 'authority' and the lack of research about Christianity that's gone into the almost-laughable arguments that have gone into it, for examples, 'most Christians ... therefore'--not _all_ Christians, not what the BIBLE says, but 'most'!) In fact, I discovered that he'd copied and pasted his own 'arguments' directly from that site! The conclusive one for him was that he prayed in Jesus's name, believing, and then God dared _not_ to give him what he asked for, and he says, without taking context into account, that Jesus's instructions to use the 'magic words' (as he thought of them) didn't come with any exceptions. (Yeah, that's one he copied and pasted at me direct from that site.) I honestly believe the devil is successfully pushing _his_ buttons, and the reason he once gave for pushing his NON-belief in something on others convinced me he's just been looking for an excuse all these years to do whatever he wants and stop worrying about going to hell! Which was when, it seems to me, when he lost what once appeared to be his conscience--a living example and PROOF of rejecting Pascal's wager, that 'most atheists' think they've debunked! . What to do as a Christian???
@@TheEngineerd I don't have time at the moment, but I'll look and see which of the required texts I still have, although the course started with the history of Buddhism, which has its original roots in Hinduism. And, just like Christians, you can't lump ALL Buddhists together; some believe in gods, as in Tibetan Buddhism, and others, like Zen, are just the bare basics; no belief in a deity necessary, but you can go ahead and believe in one if you want. But they do still believe in reincarnation into this world of suffering until you release all desire through _meditation_ ... not on a specific topic or verse in the Bible as Christians and Jews are supoosed to do, but with the goal of emptying your mind and, as Wes said, achieving enlightenment with the realization that you don't really exist. So that the suffering will end and the 'non-existent' you can move on to Nirvana ... where the Buddha is, but nobody knows what that actually is!
Why isn't it possible that Jesus as a Jewish person was influenced by Hindu practices like Meditation and Sadhu practices and might have come to his own conclusions which wasn't that uncommon in India as well. And also Nepal is the birthplace of the Buddha, Buddhism didn't reach there only in the 7th century
I am not even half way through the video.. (that too a short video !) ... I am a Christian from India.. This has almost become the no.1 objection to Jesus (the first being Jesus mythicism) Is there anyway you can help me study more and answer this objection better .. 1) could u suggest books or stuff that I can read on this 2) would it ever be possible to have a live discussion on the topic ... After I read up the topic.. Thank you for your work.. keep doing.. godbless
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@@theguyver4934 there is no evidence from the Bible that Jesus and his disciples were vegetarians... Jesus literally had fish as breakfast after his resurrection (like 24.42) ... Almost every early creed support the doctrines u mention.. kindly read the history properly... And no Muslims are not the lineage of Ismail.. there is no evidence for that claim too..
What Happened During Jesus' 'Lost Years' (Luke 2:42; 3:23)? At the time Herod ordered all the young boys in Bethlehem to be slain, Joseph took Mary and Jesus and fled into Egypt. When the danger was past, they returned to their own country and settled in a town in Galilee: "And he [Joseph and his family] came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, 'He shall be called a Nazarene' [one who comes from Nazareth]" (Matthew 2:23). From Nazareth, they would all travel to Jerusalem each year for the Passover. On one of those occasions, when He was 12, Jesus stayed behind in the Temple. Afterward, "He went down with them [His family] and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them" (Luke 2:51). So, Jesus evidently spent most of those years in Nazareth. Otherwise, people would not have known Him as a Nazarene. After He was 30, Jesus preached in the synagogue in His home town: "So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up" (Luke 4:16). Notice the reaction of the townspeople: "So all . . . marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth. And they said, 'Is this not Joseph's son?" (verse 22). The people knew Him! This is confirmed when, on a similar occasion, in astonishment they said, "Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary? And his brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? And His sisters, are they not all with us?'" (Matthew 13:54-56). The people knew His whole family, as this was Jesus' "own country" (verse 54; Luke 4:24). Obviously, Jesus spent most of those 18 years between ages 12 and 30 in Nazareth where He was trained and where He studied. Whether or not He traveled to any foreign nation is not revealed in Scripture.
In the midst of challenges, hold on to the truth that God is with you. Leading, standing, and walking with you. Approach every situation with confidence, knowing you have divine support. Amen! 🙏❤🙌
The teachings in the Hindu Bhagavad Gita and the Gospels are extremely similar. Certainly a lot more similar than the Old Testament compared to the New Testament.
Such as beliving our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The book of Revelation? To be baptized? To go to church? That God, Jesus and the holy spirit are the triune God? Or are you talking about generic "be good"?
Thank you so much brother for defending this , also if you could answer the claim that an Archaeological discovery of "Jesus ossuary" has been discovered in Jerusalem , it would be great
Jesus had a virgin birth, walked on water, heal the sick, brought the dead back to life, multiply fish, walked through a wall and ascended to heaven but no super powers when it comes to traveling. Noted it!😢
MUST READ: If you read the supposed translation of Scrolls of Issa and his adventures that was recorded by the monks themselves(Which does exist and witness by 4 independent people) during his stay in India and let us assume it is real, in that scroll Issa explicitly says that reincarnation/incarnation is not real and will never be. Nor idol/animal worshipping and human worshipping. Nor human sacrifices and division among men. Rather that they must stop or judgement will be upon them. Besides these aforementioned all the teachings of Issa of India were exactly in line with those we find in the bible. Apparently Issa was, just as was in the bible to the Priest of Jews, against ALL the teachings around there - this includes hindus, zoroastrians, buddhists and so on; and they were trying to kill him. He found refuge in the high mountain among the monks where he studied ALL of their theology. To which Issa concluded are all wrong. presumably recorded and documented by the monks. This explains why the monks won't let the world see those scrolls. Because even though the one point in the contents of Mossa (Moses) seems to contradict the Bible funnily enough it does not with Issa. And just as Philippians 2:11 wrote that every tongue will confess, even in these scrolls it is written that he is the BEST OF THE SON OF MAN, THE BLESSED ONE. Even the Chief Monk during this time viz the discovery of the scroll, confess that Issa is the one above all the Buddhas that have reincarnated. And every teachings/words of Issa we found in the scroll does not differ as written in the bible. They claim to have taught Issa yet every teachings of Issa they themselves recorded contradicts their believes. On the contrary, Issa warned of them and their believes. Hence, even IF Issa was indeed Jesus they have added to suppose and confused people into believing their teachings which Issa did not. And to the supposed settlement of Issa and having a family and children, this too seems to be in addition since there are many places where it is claimed Jesus settled after resurrection. Also, there is no citation of Issa coming back to India after resurrection in the scroll. However THERE IS citation of Issa's resurrection after 3 days. For our Saviour, Sovereign on high in heaven, is the First and the Last, Alpha and Omega and he will come again to reign forever. Amen.
As an Indian Christian ✝️ I can affirm that ability to cook false theories in regard to Jesus is beyond understanding by Hindus and similar religions… It’s not just misguiding matter but a mockery of Jesus in their mindset.. as an Indian Christian we do face this accusations and associations of Jesus being Hindu and what not nonsense every single day by Hindus.. They call us Indian Christian’s converts for money and rice bags and sell off.. The racism in India towards Christianity is all time high at the current year and age, especially with the political back up and power of organisations like BJP, VHP, RSS, Christians and faith if Christian’s are all time high risky.. they simple want Christian’s to be terminated and outcasted.. Meanwhile all the west Christian countries are welcoming Hindus and Indian natives to their country and allowing to open temples on large scale and let grow their Hindu religion easily without restrictions, In India on the other hand 300+ churches are destroyed every single year.. This doesn’t surface in any Indian media but you all can search and see the reporting done by some brave people in India to do not support this, just try searching ATROCITIES ON CHRISTIANS INDIA, the results will shock you
I feel your understanding of Hinduism isn't complete as even Hinduism is actually a monotheistic religion as well, but has no set path to reach God and so Jesus could have easily combined his Jewish upbringing with Indian concept like Ahimsa and Karma to create the new religion of Christianity
Jesus warned that many would come in his name. Even the devil can appear as an Angel of light. And that there would be many false ‘copies’ of Jesus. Pray for the gift of discernment. Only one of them is real…he hasn’t returned yet. The rest are all fake.
The Aquarian gospel of Jesus Christ refers to this stuff, I read it years ago, the NT of the New Age when it first came to light back in the 80s, a little before your time. The New Age has morphed over time, using different words to explain the same things like back then it was Meditation now it’s mindfulness, astroprojection became trans channeling, finding your shakras became centering yourself, spirit guide became your guardian angel…it’s all the same misdirection. Great points to deflect the false narrative…to the Jew first, Messiah came.🙏🏽👼🏼🕊
There's an 'Aquarian Gospel of Jesus'--literally? (I was born in the early '60s, so I defniitely remember 'The Age of Aquarius' (was one of my favorite songs at the time!) and 'Godspell. But I never heard of an 'Aquarian Gospel of Jesus' ... unless Godspell is what you're referring to? Even back then when I was a kid, although I didn't actually SEE it, songs like 'I Don't Know How to Love Him' struck me as potentially blasphemous.
Some people seek truth, keeping an open mind and looking objectively at data and applying reason. Others take a perspective of the universe FROM a given, defined mindset and reject matters which call into question their established dogma. That goes with the difference between faith and religion. I notice this guy tosses out the word “cult” in a derogatory way. What defines a “cult”? When a religious group has a billion members, does the mere number of members disqualify it as a “cult”? If so, does it rather upend the entire notion that “a cult is a group of ‘bad’ people”? Here, again, I see one group of people, defined by their beliefs, chastising other groups of people FOR HAVING DIFFERENT BELIEFS. Who is it drawing the lines of “us versus them”? As I said, this fellow and all of his cheering supporters on this thread are the very reason I no longer see value in religion, all while my faith has become deeper.
In your critique of me are you defending your belief against me by chastising me for having different beliefs? Hmm, it almost seems like its you verses me? Dare I say just a different "us vs. them" scenario? Your comment is one of the very reasons I no longer see value in vague a-historical platitudes that end up creating logically contradictory statements in the name of open-mindedness. Looks like your mind might be so opened it fell out.
You erred when you said Buddhism was not introduced into Nepal until the 7th century. Secondly, there was a busy sea trade route between Roman Palestine & India which route was taken by Thomas to Kerala, India 50 years after Jesus death. And Jesus would have been married with numerous kids according to Jewish tradition had he stayed in Nazareth during the lost years. Finally, the 4 gospels did not mention the lost years because it was written years after Jesus's ministry of a mere 3 years, by those who were not aware of it just as the infancy gospels were not known. Only when you start to think outside of the box/book will you realize that the complete life of a spiritual master from childhood if accountable is important.✝✝✝
Please provide at minimum one first-hand primary source older than the 7th century that records the existence of Buddhism in any prominent way within the country of Tibet. Please give me any contemporaneous source stating that Jesus was anything other than what we have him described as in the earliest and most-reliable historical sources: that is, a single, unmarried man who lived a celibate life and died by crucifixion in his early 30s.
@@WesHuff Firstly, Nepal is not in Tibet, where Buddhism was introduced in 700CE. Whereas there are numerous historical evidence of Buddhism in Northern India in the form of stupas from 200 BCE left by Emperor Ashoka & around the foothills of Nepal where Buddha was born. Secondly, if one can claim Catholicism to be the earliest form of Christianity practiced after the crucifixion then it is reasonable that celibacy is one of the requirements of church as endorsed by Jesus. Finally, it would be uncommon for a grown Jewish man of that time not to marry when they are of age when girls were married off soon as they reach adolescent. It is recommendable you read up on Joseph of Arimathea & his association with Glastonbury England to widen your historical knowledge outside of your "earliest & most reliable non historical STORIES but a book of faith that only mentioned Jesus ministry of 3 poxy years, much later by others & in Greek & not Aramaic the language of Jesus & his followers for non Jewish people where the Jews who did not believe in his divinity.
@@MustAfaalik I think you misunderstood my question, I asked for first-hand primary sources. I'll wait for you to cite those. In the meantime, I'm well aware of the supposed connection between Joseph of Arimathea and Glastonbury, unfortunately the earliest reference to that connection is from the 9th century and it wasn't really attempted to be made substantial until the 14th. As to your comment regarding Jesus, Greek, and Aramaic I'll leave this here: www.wesleyhuff.com/blog/2019/12/16/did-jesus-speak-greek.
@@WesHuff The fact that the document was written in Pali & not Tibetan is evident that Jesus was in that part of that Jesus was in that area where Buddhism was already practiced. Your assumption that Jesus spoke Greek is possible but it is doubtful that he could write in Greek as that is only possible if he had an education in Greek where it is not the common language & only limited to those who could afford such education like Luke, Mark & Mathew. And the reason the gospels were written in Greek & not Aramaic gives a strong indication that the local Jewish population did not accept Jesus as anything but a wandering Rabbi & not the prophet according to the gospels who performed the miracles in view of thousands. The same conclusion had the Quran being written in Latin when Mohamed spoke Arabic would indicate. There are undeniable possibilities that Joseph the Uncle of Jesus, a tin magnate who had strong connections & influence with the Romans played a huge part in the enigma of Jesus following the crucifixion that was not known to the gospel writers written years after. End of discussion.
Jesus was one of the spiritual Students in Nalanda/ Takshasela university ( oldest universities in the world). Missing years. Bharat has very advanced culture with recorded history over 15000 years. Anybody still believing in god is childish like a big man sitting up there.
Except Nalanda University was founded almost 500 years after Jesus’s death. So that makes that theory a little bit tricky. Takshasela is significantly older but there is absolutely no evidence of Jesus ever having been there. We actually have a decent recorded history of the area during the Hellenistic period due to Alexander the Great’s taking of control of the Indus Valley. Despite all of that there’s no evidence Jesus was ever there.
Jesus sacrificed himself for the truth, there are many examples of those who sacrificed themselves for the truth also.There are many many miracles he performed. Many sadhus and yogis of India have also done so. as Jesus forgives all the sins. A Guru also takes away and forgives all the sins of his disciple by the grease of God. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Bamakhyapa, BalakBrahma Chari - there are many such names. Where the Bible calls man sinners. Hindu scriptures refer to man as the son of Amrita {Son of God }. I see no noble purpose in making someone feel inferior and then promising to make him great. You are sinner not because of your ancestor disobey God. It makes no sense.
I don’t know if my Jesus went to the Far East. I wouldn’t compare him with Marco Polo though because Jesus is divine and who knows. Marko Polo was just human. If people in the Far East talk about, that he was there………"
Plus St Thomas came to in India in 52AD as well and spread Christianity,so if he could travel from Israel to India why couldn't Jesus do so as well? Not to mention the 1st century was one of the safest times to travel right from Spain to China because of all the stable silk road empires of the time
The claim is not simply that Jesus went to India, but to Nepal. That is what I was commenting on specifically. On top of that, and as someone who has looked into this extensively, the evidence that the Thomas who possibly went to India was the apostle is very scant and, frankly, unreliable. I have no doubt that someone took Christianity to India very early, and his name very well could have been Thomas (a not uncommon Greek name within antiquity). But based on the solid historical evidence that that individual was in fact Thomas the disciple, that is hardly anything I would feel comfortable saying confidently.
@@WesHuff i lived in the city that St Thomas died and his basilica was built as well, every Christian in Chennai claims this to be fact, also Syrian Catholics are the biggest group of Christians in Kerala who also trace themselves back to 52 AD with the coming of St Thomas, maybe you could give some more research into that. Nepal and India have been highly connected throughout history and it wasn't uncommon for people from Southern India to become priests in the Himalayas, 1000s of miles away, so Jesus traveling from the western coast of India to Nepal is not implausible at all even in the 1st century
@@akshathdharmadheeran6074 So we have two issues here. The first is Jesus in India/Napal. This is a claim with 0 evidence on its side, one that no scholar within the field of Historical Jesus Studies takes seriously because of the lack of first-hand documentary evidence (compiled with the implausibility of the claims and the fact that everything we have about Jesus' childhood says he was in Egypt and Nazareth and nowhere else). There is no plausibility to the theory because its an argument based not on the evidence but in spite of it. Secondly is the Thomas in India issue. It's a very common claim -- no denying that. But there are levels of historical credibility to the tales of the Apostles and they exist on a gradient. Some have a lot of evidential weight on their side --- such as Peter and Paul's exploits and martyrdoms in Rome. There's corroborative and independent writings, we have multiple attestation and both Christian and non-Christian attribution. Near the bottom of the list is Thomas. Thomas, unfortunately, has very confusing and conflicting evidence for his actual whereabouts and where he ended up. There is no written record of Thomas in India from India until the 16th century. The oral stories that are associated with Thomas within India vary widely and are chalk full of embellishment. It is hard to figure out what is myth and what is history. Early church writings about Thomas (his ministry and fate) before Nicaea and after Nicaea also differ. It is possible that Thomas ended up in India but, I think based on the inconclusive evidence, it is not hugely probable given the evidence.
@@WesHuff i don't believe that Jesus came to India either, but to say that it's impossible was what I wanted to counter given that records from that time vary from sketchy to non existent
Luke 2: 41-52 “And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.” Deuteronomy 5:16 “Honour thy father and thy mother, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.” No Marsha, Jesus was not in India teaching the swamis. He was in Nazareth being obedient as a good Son to Mary and Joseph.
No one, from today, really knows right ? So it’s all speculation I just can’t believe for 18 years my man was just a carpenter that no one wrote about 🤷🏼♂️ he was a carpenter just thinking about what he was gonna say when he broke out at 30 ? not my Jesus, but u choose your own Jesus
Ah, no wonder it's so interesting then. If it's weird, it's important! (Hmm, where have I heard THAT expression? ;) Speaking as someone who's always been weird and often told so, I can't help liking it! I'm waiting for Mike Heiser to get THAT T-shirt made up so I can finally buy something off his website! I'm curious what Wes Huff thinks of Heiser's work. Mike Winger actually said when asked the same question something like, 'Well, he is a Christian. And he goes to a Biblically sound church. But ... some of what he writes is .... just weird.' The 'just weird' part is verbatim! Or is that what you're intentionally getting at?)
I think the possessive form of a name that ends in s, is not to add another s, but just one s. So, it would be Jesus' rather than Jesus's. We love your videos.
Thanks for watching! As English goes both are technically acceptable forms of the possessive . If a proper name ends with an s, you can add just the apostrophe or an apostrophe and an s and both are considered grammatically and syntactically acceptable. But I appreciate being kept accountable!
Our Lord Jesus Christ was preaching and teaching at the age of twelve at synagogues to the scribes,saducees,the religious elders,rabbi and others this people were stunned amazed by his this young boys knowledge wisdom.It couldn't be he learned from eastern culture which taught a system the most worst ugly,evil terrifying Caste system the baddest in humanity history could find to discriminate human being in a multiple levels till to the Extreme just for the strongest and fittest to survive and rule. In Christ we all are brothers and equal, we love ❤ each other forgiving no to revenge and we are taught to love our enemies too. No others teach or being in this manner except Christ like. If their good gurus and masters how is their track record towards woman and the weak how do they treat now in their communities?? Well their living lifestyle tells everything
I literally just listened to a sermon by Pastor John MacArthur and he was talking about it a magazine he was reading and the guy said that he was Jesus‘s grandson, and it all took place from ages 12 to 29 years old which is actually perfect because those years in the Bible aren’t spoken about (how ironic) , but in the article it said that he went to India and stayed in Kashmir and had children and that he studied Buddhism and became a Buddhist teacher 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Unbelievable the length people will go to misinterpret what Jesus did and who He actually was Also what’s even more ironic is that I just watched your video on why Christmas isn’t pagan, and then this just started playing, I didn’t even click on it so can’t wait to hear what you have to say
"Unbelievable the length people will go to misinterpret what Jesus did and who He actually was" Apply this to the entirety of that man teaches under the filter understanding of Manichaeism theology and you WILL see clearly mcarther is preaching "another gospel another jesis". He mutters ERROR after ERROR after ERROR after ERROR. He claim the Torah is "done away with' when the prophets said IT WILL be the ONLY thing taught in eternity from Chri=st at mt Zion. YHVH doesn't anoint ppl like him Nor does he send ppl like Him to minister to a soul . 1 John 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. SO, Them WHOS the lair! Some guy that misleads you ppl blindly so or the many prophets that said the word is eternal Christ himself said is, and Hosea? Problem is 95% of ppl are used to his pablum and heretical unbiblical doctrines from top 1000 pulpit pundits so the black/white line isn't discerned any longer. Witchcraft has its way to Put a spin Under this hypnotic state where ppl are accepting heresy as truth. 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap tothemselves teachers, having itching ears;
The difficulty of travel to Nepal is overstated. The Silk Road resulted in Chinese silk found in Egyptian graves. It was only a few hundred years after Jesus that Norsemen had a permanent embassy in Constantinople. Unlike Alexander the Great, who was traveling with an army and conquering along the way, trading caravans would cover vast distances regularly (usually just portions of the so-called Silk Road, not the whole distance). That said, trying to find “sources” for Jesus’ teaching outside of Palestine is agenda-driven wishful thinking. There’s no good evidence, internal or external, that Jesus ever made such travels. It’s always worthwhile, as you did, to trace the claim to its source.
It's not that the trip would have been impossible just incredibly improbable. The issue is that the silk road was a travelers and traders rout. The silk we find in places like Egypt was passed through trading routs and as far as we know no one individual made the entire trip to China and then back to Egypt by themselves (at least not in the first century). The contact between the ancient far east and the Greco-Roman Empire was indirect in Jesus day, especially since the Parthians lay between Rome and China and neither Empires were that interested in disturbing them (they were quite hostile to Rome). The most direct trip would have been the sea root to India through the Persian Gulf into the coast of India which in Jesus' day would have been a recent development. Once again, not impossible, just highly unlikely.
@@WesHuff I don't mean this as an argument, but are you saying that people didn't travel by sea back then? What about the nearby Phoenicians? Rome conquered Britain sometime around the year 50 A.D. And Paul was shipwrecked and also walked all the way to Rome. (I'm halfway through Acts right now, and just the _thought of how many miles_ he and whoever was with him--apparently he often had people with him who Luke just doesn't bother to mention until they do something worth mentioning!--covered in is making my feet hurt!) In fact, would you say that that style of writing is probably why Jesus appears to have 'missing years' in the gospels. I mean, the example you gave gives all the names of his brothers but not of his sisters too. It seems to me that we're expecting the Bible to read like a novel when the style of novels we're used to reading just didn't exist yet, so during the years when nothing important or unusual for the son of a Jewish carpenter in that time and place happened, they just didn't get written down. As opposed to actually spelling out, 'And during all that time, Jesus spent his time not sinning, which greatly annoyed his naughty brothers and sisters, who wondered enviously how he always managed never to get in trouble or make any mistakes.' . But I agree it wasn't likely that a young Jesus would've made such a trip; I kind of imagine he was probably busy helping Joseph with the carpentry in between studying the Scriptures. And, being God, having the physical experience of growing up and living in a human body in the human world so that he could relate to people during his ministry. Is that a potential scenario? . (I need to know for my upcoming gnostic infancy gospel ... I mean Bible fan fiction so I can fill in all the gaps in Jesus's life! 'Hey, why does HE get to go on a cruise to India and WE don't? No fair!' exclaimed James. 'Now, James, we've talked about this. When you're his age, if you're still interested, you can go to India too. But not if you don't finish studying for your quiz on Isaiah,' Joseph replied. 'Now stop complaining and DO it, or I'll take away your allowance this week and you'll have no spending money saved up when it's your turn.' Just kidding. Although I do seriously think of all those extraneous gospels as a form of ancient fan fiction. Times have changed, styles of biography and history writing have changed and developed into more of a for-profit art form, so you've got to suck the reader in from page 1 these days with all that competition to write a bestseller, but has human nature and the urge to tell stories really changed that much? In fact, I am curious whether the parables were true or if Jesus was just telling illustrative stories that he made up. That might be a good topic for a video if you know the answer and haven't done one on that yet, hint hint. But, either way, people have always enjoyed good stories, haven't they?)
@@mooncove I never said people didn’t travel by sea. Simply that the most direct root to the Far East was a fairly recent development in Jesus’ day and it would have been very unlikely (not impossible, just unlikely) that he would have been aware of, had access to, and gone that route. Also, parables were a common teaching tool in the ancient world in both Greek (Hercules at the Crossroads), Persian (Akhfash’s Goat), and Hebrew (such as the parable of the ewe-lamb told by Nathan in 2 Samuel 12:1-9 and the parable of the woman of Tekoah in 2 Samuel 14:1-13) writings. No one would have considered them as explanations of stories that actually happened but as tools that contained real life places, names, and situations to illustrate a point.
@@WesHuff OK, thank you. So are you saying they're kind of like Aesop's fables? I always imagined them as Jesus sitting down with people and illustrating a point with an implied, 'Once upon a time ...,' not that it really happened? (It only recently occurred to me to wonder whether he might have been telling true stories that illustrate his point. Or make it even more obscure when talking to the Pharisees.)
Slight correction: that’s from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, not the Gospel of Thomas. Similar name but very different documents. The story of the birds from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas only exists in the 5th/6th century version.
😢 Nou jesus feet never touched the one n only spiritual holy land of the globe India boz if jesus feet touched Indian soil he would never advised to eat innocent animals 😢😢 .
This is so good, I love the research, thanks! It's incredibly frustrating how these documentaries spread such garbage, literally inventing things out of thin air, and believing nonsense with no credibility, and they spread it around like fact. Then, people get their hands on it, and feel like they're so much smarter than everyone else because they know things no one else does, meanwhile it's nonsense, but you can't argue with them because they want to believe the nonsensical documentary...
Oh yea, like they do with the christian doctrines…? Prove one for me… You have no idea how much the state decided what you think is true… it’s literally crazy how much youre talking about yourself in this argument
@@Bhauer2011 The books that were written that we have in the New Testament were all written before Rome converted. The Christian church was heavily persecuted during that time. The people who wrote these documents we have in the New Testament were literally tortured and killed for what they believed. The state was completely against them, not in favor of them. You're saying that the state decided a lot of what I believe in Christianity, and yet, the state was trying to destroy Christianity.
I prefer to believe a yogi saint called paramahansa yogananda than you.he authored a two volume set on the 2 nd coming of Jesus Christ.he said the author is Jesus Christ.their spoke in the spirit,and Jesus told him what to write.he has another book called the yoga of Jesus.he in fact studied and did yoga in India.their also have books writing about Jesus living in India.elites probably took things out of the original bible,and added things as well,therefore corrupting the original Roman Catholic Bible.before you prayer ask god for discernment,and he would lead you in the right direction.yogis and Hindus believe in reincarnation this makes no sense that the Roman Catholics say reincarnation is false.why would god possibly make you to live one life.god made us in his image,and through many lifetimes through doing spirituality you finally evolve to a god man,so it comes like god is the ocean,and we are a drop in the ocean.everyone living will one day develop this Christ consciousness.one god,but different paths to this god.a lot of frauds out there so be careful
@@zparker0110 you're welcome to do whatever you want. But I would highly recommend actually watching the content you're commenting on for the sake of not coming across as uninformed or ignorant. I'm not saying you are those things, but without actually knowing what was discussed that is the way it can come across.
Great work, did see these stories flying around. As someone who was born and raised in an Hindu family, I would say Jesus would only have rebuked such practices instead of following them.
Keep up the good work, God bless you!
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Hi! Can you please tell me why you wrote that and your experiences being raised Hindu? I would love to know? Thank you!
@@JesusSaves77799he said that because they gave a few bags of rice to this man's family and then they happily converted to the other religion and you know he works for that convertor proving he's able to commit magic like healing illnesses and making leg less people walk 😁
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basically u confessed that all Hindus are either poor or gluttons and stingy people.....
Cannot even provide basic food for their fellow religionists.😂😂😂😂
One of my favorite Christian Apologists. Thank you brother for this.
I had a World History professor at a University ask where Mary and Joseph took Jesus when Herod was trying to kill him, and when I answered Egypt, she said "Well that's one claim, but it's actually more likely that Mary and Joseph took him to India and raised him there." and then proceeded to try and show all of the ways Jesus was influenced by Hinduism. I was baffled where that came from, and that it was being taught as fact. Thanks for refuting this theory so succinctly.
Straight to the point, the right kind of approach to these kinds of half baked, baseless ideas. Well done.
Hello Wesley! Fellow Canadian here, just recently discovered your channel through Mike Winger. I'm grateful for your expertise
super grateful for your work brother! thank you and salute. 🫡🙏
Thank you for exposing these lies
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Brother the jesus is a budhisst ,,i have no any douts ,and ys budhist jesus is not bodhisatva is just a influence ,not pure budhist
Everything about Jesus is refuted. His skin colour, his birth, his education, his marriage, his escape, and finally his and his mothers tomb. So, is the foundation of Christianity based on a myriad of untruths?
There was no mistery of the lost years of Jesus life from 12 years old to 30 years old . The Bible clearly says where Jesus was during that period . Luke 2 verse 39 : When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. Jesus was in Nazareth . Verse 40 : And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was on him. Jesus did not go anywhere but stay in Nazareth . As He is the Son of God , grace of God was on Him and due to the grace He grew healthy and God gave Him wisdom and knowledge . Luke 4:16 : He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read. Jesus grew in Nazareth , not grew in other places , let along going abroad either to India or England or somewhere else . Mark 6 : 1- 3 : Jesus left there and went to his hometown, accompanied by his disciples. 2 When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed.
“Where did this man get these things?” they asked. “What’s this wisdom that has been given him? What are these remarkable miracles he is performing? 3 Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph,[a] Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him. Jesus was well known to his neighbours and the people of Nazareth as a carpenter , just like his human father Joseph who was also a carpenter . If Jesus was away for years and not seen in his hometown , it would have been mentioned by the people in his hometown . From these verses it was clear that Jesus did not go anywhere but stay with Joseph and Mary in Nazareth , grew there , become a carpenter and well known by the people there before starting His mission of salvation ...
In Matthew 2:13-23, an angel appears to Joseph in a dream and tells him to flee to Egypt with Mary and Jesus. The family left immediately and remained in Egypt until Herod died, then returned to Israel.
I just started watching your videos! They’re a blessing. Thank God and thank you. 🙏🏼
Thanks for this. I’ve heard about this and couldn’t find anyone I can trust to give an accurate explanation. Thank you so much
8:02 Buddha Born in Persent Napal. How can you say "Buddhism did not even reach Napal till 7th century"
So glad you are talking about this!
Nice work Wesley!
He went to Egypt.
Great video! I just subscribed to your channel and I'm loving it! What do you say to people who say that Hinduism is the oldest religion? My brother-in-law brought this up when we were debating over religion. He said therefore Christianity isn't true. I know that that's a lie but I didn't know exactly how to respond to this.
Being oldest is not a scale of validity in any sense.. it's an appeal to age fallacy...
Being old doesn't make it true or false.. it's irrelevent
@@tam_chris20 Thank you! That makes a lot of sense. Wish I would have thought of that!
@@TheAmberHarvey Hinduism is ancient indo-European religion there gods like Dyuas pitar and wodan sound similar to the gods of ancient European religions like deus or Zeus and Odin However they were able to protect themself from Abrahamic cults
Exactly aryans... they are superior to avrgamic@@equationaeecrama8517
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Luke 4:16
He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read,
"where he had been brought up"
"As was his custom", a custom or tradition is something an individual is following for a long period. That means he was reading in synagogue since his brought up years.
He never came to India. If he did he would have preached polytheism too.
If Thomas made it to India as an apostle ofcourse Christ could. I don't know about learning a particular religion but the route of India's religion is Dharam which translates to Compassion which Christ had in abundance. Peace
The evidence for Thomas' travel to India is likewise secondary and historically shaky. However, unlike the few later stories we have of Thomas going to India, we have nothing until the 1800s that even hints that Jesus left Roman occupied Israel during his lifetime. All accounts of Jesus' teaching that can be historically connected to the century he lived are thoroughly Jewish. Both the Hindu and Buddhist concepts of dharmic peace are mutually exclusive to the teachings of the historic Jesus we find in the Gospels.
@@WesHuff you should visit Chennai in India to see how the claimed St Thomas's relics and places of residing and of rest are of which Thomas of Chennai 52ad
@@g.a.m.b.i but thats a complete non sequitor to what he just wrote
@@WesHuffI agree with you that scripture does not point to any evidence he travelled to these places; however I was a little off put by the question you opened with which was “well that’s a weird question”. Especially since it’s not far fetched to connect some of the same principles His messages share including compassion, wisdom, materialism, inner life, temptation, salvation, the future, miracles, discipleship. No, they are not all the same and many very different, but it’s not “weird” to wonder about whether or not He travelled or even taught in other places. Furthermore, I believe the breadth and width of His entire message could not have been transcribed by the number of Jewish/Greek/Latin scribes or further editing done by the Catholic Church- something many Protestants fail to see took place.
buddism is a philosophy not a religion
Thank you so very much😊!
0:40 that's hilarious. Did someone who believed in God and believed himself to be God borrow from a religion that is rather anti-theist (even if poorly with weak arguments)? I'll go with no.
Well, technically, as I understand it, both from the college course I took on Buddhism and my interaction with an 'anti-theist,' Buddhism teaches that the existence or non-existence of God is 'a question not leading to enlightenment,' with the whole goal of Buddhism (which also teaches reincarnation--as many times as it takes for you to reach enlightenment and achieve whatever Nirvana is, unless you choose to stay behind in this world of non-stop suffering caused by desire and help everyone else get enlightened too, which makes you a Boddhisatva) is 'Enlightenment,' as Wes described it. Whereas my father, who's been a Christian, an agnostic, an atheist, an _evangelical_ atheist, and has finally 'graduated' to being a self-proclaimed *anti-theist* is not content simply not to believe in God or to leave it as an unanswered/unanswerable question, but to actively reject and _attack_ Christianity and Christians like myself. He doesn't target other gods, only the Judeo/Christian one and His followers.
PS: Wes, maybe this is a question you can answer for me that I've been grappling with for several years now: At what point does 'honoring our father [and mother],' obeying them, etc., get overridden by a parent's anti-theism as I've just described above? When do I get to stop obeying my father when he demands that I not mention Christianity in his presence--as has have my sister and her husband, and by implication, their children--or face the blasphemous consequences? I know I can still shake the dust from my feet and pray for him from afar, but does the commandment to obey him ever get overridden by the mere mention of Christianity eliciting a tirade blasphemy against the Holy Spirit from him? I had to do battle with him to have a pastor present at the 'Informal Farewell Gathering' three days after her death before that they planned entirely without consulting me--in fact, attempting to _exclude_ me from being present, for my Christian mother, who passed away this past November ... and fortunately succeeded by telling him neither _my_ wishes _nor_ his are relevant; it's my _mother's_ wishes that were to be honored, gave him examples of her Christian beliefs and actions, and told him she would be _appalled_ at the thought of not even getting a Christian blessing said over her body before she was unceremoniously rushed to the crematory (even though he told me there was no such thing as a soul). In fact, I'm not entirely sure where I got all the 'right' words to say from, they just spilled out of me onto his answering machine, and I was surprised they actually worked for once!
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He is an abusive narcissist, and I'm his designated 'scapegoat,' _still_ at nearly 60 years of age. Narcissism is notoriously hard if not impossible to treat by psychology or _any_ means and gets more entrenched with age as it becomes the essence of the person's personality. Also, narcissists are incapable of LOVE, which is a sign that they do not know God, nor do they _want_ to, while we are told to avoid evil. Could he be demonically possessed, and is there anything I can do about it? At what point does Psalm 27:10 kick in? ("If my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will take me up." I actually want to get that tattooed on my forearm so I can be reminded of it every depressing day of the rest of my depressing 'life' of non-stop suffering.)
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Not sure whether you'll see this since I don't know how to 'tag' someone on TH-cam, but I'd really appreciate your response.
@@mooncove Well, technically, there's no you or anyone else to help in this world either.
I'm too lazy to look them up, but one of the books on Buddhism goes through arguments by Buddhists arguing against the possibility of god existing. I'd say it's also implicit in their belief in Atman. I wasn't thinking of anti-theist in the sense of them being militant.
Since you've studied it, any books you'd recommend?
PS: None of them are speaking to me anyway ... except for my father on and off or sending me messages through my husband. As a 'covert' or 'greater' narcissist depending on which expert you consult here on TH-cam, my father is attempting yet another of his neverending 'malign hoover's intended to wound me yet AGAIN. Absolutely nothing I do or say or think, like, believe, don't like, _don't_ do, etc., will ever meet with his approval; he's come out and _said_ so and formally disowned me as his daughter in writing more than once ... only to come back, pretend to have changed, and abuse me all over again, repeating the same process until he finally _meets_ God and doesn't get a chance to say he's sorry. And his being 'wrong' is just _not_ in a narcissist's ability to process mentally when the evidence is staring them in the face! (If you were to watch any of H.G. Tudor, the 'Ultra' narcissist's, videos that explain narcissism in copious detail, it would give you an idea of what I'm talking about, as well as the narcissist's own thoughts, although it kind of depends on the 'type' of narcissist, to wit: th-cam.com/video/nT6EWIVuruI/w-d-xo.html I'm almost certain that he would come under the category of a 'greater' or 'covert' narcissist. And the reason it's incurable, except via a miracle, is because 'Narcissistic Personality Disorder' is more than a mental illness; it's a defect of _personality_ and usually a lifelong one that starts in early childhood in which LOVE is rejected as a weakness.)
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Not only that, but, before it ever dawned on me that he was a narcissist since he's so good at hiding it, and as the scapegoat child of a narcissist, you actually _believe_ what the narcissist tells you about yourself, including that you're not just a bad person, but crazy (because they've _driven_ you crazy and know exactly how to push all your buttons to make you look crazy to others--e.g., induce a panic attack--right on cue because they _put_ them there in the first place!), and before he really stepped up his abuse of my mother in order to back up his claim that she already had dementia, using her pre-existing, stress-related conditions of high blood pressure and diabetes to give her the vascular dementia that finally killed her after 4-5 years after it started to manifest, I had already bought the house next door to him, where I'm now stuck because my husband and I can't afford to move. So the prescribed 'cure' for narcissistic abuse (which _all_ the experts agree on) of 'no contact' is impossible with him). Also, of course, I don't want him or my sister or nieces (who have undergone the same kind of abuse I have due to their own parents' being narcissists) to go to hell. (Also, he's been listening or reading too much Richard Dawkins and other atheists' work, which is entirely uninformed and ridiculous, e.g., adding a fourth 'mother' figure to the 'TRI-nity' and he knows enough Latin to KNOW that it's ridiculous! And I don't want to repeat about what he said about the Holy Spirit, except to say that he thinks the whole thing was made up by a 'priest' in the 300s to keep the people in line.
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He also wanted me to read a website called 'God is imaginary,' which I resisted at first but then finally decided to take a peek ... and was easily able to debunk almost every argument on the site without even thinking about it--based entirely on what I _have_ read of the Bible and simple logic alone! Seriously, anyone who's a real Christian here, have a look at it and scoff at its supposed 'authority' and the lack of research about Christianity that's gone into the almost-laughable arguments that have gone into it, for examples, 'most Christians ... therefore'--not _all_ Christians, not what the BIBLE says, but 'most'!) In fact, I discovered that he'd copied and pasted his own 'arguments' directly from that site! The conclusive one for him was that he prayed in Jesus's name, believing, and then God dared _not_ to give him what he asked for, and he says, without taking context into account, that Jesus's instructions to use the 'magic words' (as he thought of them) didn't come with any exceptions. (Yeah, that's one he copied and pasted at me direct from that site.)
I honestly believe the devil is successfully pushing _his_ buttons, and the reason he once gave for pushing his NON-belief in something on others convinced me he's just been looking for an excuse all these years to do whatever he wants and stop worrying about going to hell! Which was when, it seems to me, when he lost what once appeared to be his conscience--a living example and PROOF of rejecting Pascal's wager, that 'most atheists' think they've debunked!
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What to do as a Christian???
@@TheEngineerd I don't have time at the moment, but I'll look and see which of the required texts I still have, although the course started with the history of Buddhism, which has its original roots in Hinduism. And, just like Christians, you can't lump ALL Buddhists together; some believe in gods, as in Tibetan Buddhism, and others, like Zen, are just the bare basics; no belief in a deity necessary, but you can go ahead and believe in one if you want. But they do still believe in reincarnation into this world of suffering until you release all desire through _meditation_ ... not on a specific topic or verse in the Bible as Christians and Jews are supoosed to do, but with the goal of emptying your mind and, as Wes said, achieving enlightenment with the realization that you don't really exist. So that the suffering will end and the 'non-existent' you can move on to Nirvana ... where the Buddha is, but nobody knows what that actually is!
Why isn't it possible that Jesus as a Jewish person was influenced by Hindu practices like Meditation and Sadhu practices and might have come to his own conclusions which wasn't that uncommon in India as well.
And also Nepal is the birthplace of the Buddha, Buddhism didn't reach there only in the 7th century
Amazing...
New subscriber here. Great work 👍
I am not even half way through the video.. (that too a short video !) ...
I am a Christian from India..
This has almost become the no.1 objection to Jesus (the first being Jesus mythicism)
Is there anyway you can help me study more and answer this objection better ..
1) could u suggest books or stuff that I can read on this
2) would it ever be possible to have a live discussion on the topic ... After I read up the topic..
Thank you for your work.. keep doing.. godbless
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
@@theguyver4934 there is no evidence from the Bible that Jesus and his disciples were vegetarians... Jesus literally had fish as breakfast after his resurrection (like 24.42) ... Almost every early creed support the doctrines u mention.. kindly read the history properly... And no Muslims are not the lineage of Ismail.. there is no evidence for that claim too..
What Happened During Jesus' 'Lost Years' (Luke 2:42; 3:23)?
At the time Herod ordered all the young boys in Bethlehem to be slain, Joseph took Mary and Jesus and fled into Egypt. When the danger was past, they returned to their own country and settled in a town in Galilee: "And he [Joseph and his family] came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, 'He shall be called a Nazarene' [one who comes from Nazareth]" (Matthew 2:23).
From Nazareth, they would all travel to Jerusalem each year for the Passover. On one of those occasions, when He was 12, Jesus stayed behind in the Temple. Afterward, "He went down with them [His family] and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them" (Luke 2:51). So, Jesus evidently spent most of those years in Nazareth. Otherwise, people would not have known Him as a Nazarene.
After He was 30, Jesus preached in the synagogue in His home town: "So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up" (Luke 4:16). Notice the reaction of the townspeople: "So all . . . marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth. And they said, 'Is this not Joseph's son?" (verse 22). The people knew Him! This is confirmed when, on a similar occasion, in astonishment they said, "Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works? Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary? And his brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? And His sisters, are they not all with us?'" (Matthew 13:54-56). The people knew His whole family, as this was Jesus' "own country" (verse 54; Luke 4:24).
Obviously, Jesus spent most of those 18 years between ages 12 and 30 in Nazareth where He was trained and where He studied. Whether or not He traveled to any foreign nation is not revealed in Scripture.
I am from nepal and this lie has sprayed like viral infection in here.
And explaining this to my people is exhausting.
In the midst of challenges, hold on to the truth that God is with you. Leading, standing, and walking with you. Approach every situation with confidence, knowing you have divine support. Amen! 🙏❤🙌
The teachings in the Hindu Bhagavad Gita and the Gospels are extremely similar. Certainly a lot more similar than the Old Testament compared to the New Testament.
Such as beliving our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, The book of Revelation? To be baptized? To go to church? That God, Jesus and the holy spirit are the triune God? Or are you talking about generic "be good"?
Very realistic interesting information!!!🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍
thanks so much, man i wish i was as knowledgable as you
Thank you so much brother for defending this , also if you could answer the claim that an Archaeological discovery of "Jesus ossuary" has been discovered in Jerusalem , it would be great
Jesus worked as a carpenter to support his widdowed mother.
Thats all we know.
Everything else is speculation only.
Good job 👏👍
Thank you so much.
Jesus had a virgin birth, walked on water, heal the sick, brought the dead back to life, multiply fish, walked through a wall and ascended to heaven but no super powers when it comes to traveling. Noted it!😢
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If you read the supposed translation of Scrolls of Issa and his adventures that was recorded by the monks themselves(Which does exist and witness by 4 independent people) during his stay in India and let us assume it is real, in that scroll Issa explicitly says that reincarnation/incarnation is not real and will never be. Nor idol/animal worshipping and human worshipping. Nor human sacrifices and division among men. Rather that they must stop or judgement will be upon them. Besides these aforementioned all the teachings of Issa of India were exactly in line with those we find in the bible. Apparently Issa was, just as was in the bible to the Priest of Jews, against ALL the teachings around there - this includes hindus, zoroastrians, buddhists and so on; and they were trying to kill him. He found refuge in the high mountain among the monks where he studied ALL of their theology. To which Issa concluded are all wrong. presumably recorded and documented by the monks. This explains why the monks won't let the world see those scrolls. Because even though the one point in the contents of Mossa (Moses) seems to contradict the Bible funnily enough it does not with Issa. And just as Philippians 2:11 wrote that every tongue will confess, even in these scrolls it is written that he is the BEST OF THE SON OF MAN, THE BLESSED ONE. Even the Chief Monk during this time viz the discovery of the scroll, confess that Issa is the one above all the Buddhas that have reincarnated. And every teachings/words of Issa we found in the scroll does not differ as written in the bible. They claim to have taught Issa yet every teachings of Issa they themselves recorded contradicts their believes. On the contrary, Issa warned of them and their believes. Hence, even IF Issa was indeed Jesus they have added to suppose and confused people into believing their teachings which Issa did not. And to the supposed settlement of Issa and having a family and children, this too seems to be in addition since there are many places where it is claimed Jesus settled after resurrection. Also, there is no citation of Issa coming back to India after resurrection in the scroll. However THERE IS citation of Issa's resurrection after 3 days.
For our Saviour, Sovereign on high in heaven, is the First and the Last, Alpha and Omega and he will come again to reign forever. Amen.
As an Indian Christian ✝️
I can affirm that ability to cook false theories in regard to Jesus is beyond understanding by Hindus and similar religions… It’s not just misguiding matter but a mockery of Jesus in their mindset.. as an Indian Christian we do face this accusations and associations of Jesus being Hindu and what not nonsense every single day by Hindus.. They call us Indian Christian’s converts for money and rice bags and sell off.. The racism in India towards Christianity is all time high at the current year and age, especially with the political back up and power of organisations like BJP, VHP, RSS, Christians and faith if Christian’s are all time high risky.. they simple want Christian’s to be terminated and outcasted..
Meanwhile all the west Christian countries are welcoming Hindus and Indian natives to their country and allowing to open temples on large scale and let grow their Hindu religion easily without restrictions, In India on the other hand 300+ churches are destroyed every single year..
This doesn’t surface in any Indian media but you all can search and see the reporting done by some brave people in India to do not support this, just try searching ATROCITIES ON CHRISTIANS INDIA, the results will shock you
I feel your understanding of Hinduism isn't complete as even Hinduism is actually a monotheistic religion as well, but has no set path to reach God and so Jesus could have easily combined his Jewish upbringing with Indian concept like Ahimsa and Karma to create the new religion of Christianity
Jesus warned that many would come in his name. Even the devil can appear as an Angel of light. And that there would be many false ‘copies’ of Jesus. Pray for the gift of discernment. Only one of them is real…he hasn’t returned yet. The rest are all fake.
The Aquarian gospel of Jesus Christ refers to this stuff, I read it years ago, the NT of the New Age when it first came to light back in the 80s, a little before your time. The New Age has morphed over time, using different words to explain the same things like back then it was Meditation now it’s mindfulness, astroprojection became trans channeling, finding your shakras became centering yourself, spirit guide became your guardian angel…it’s all the same misdirection. Great points to deflect the false narrative…to the Jew first, Messiah came.🙏🏽👼🏼🕊
There's an 'Aquarian Gospel of Jesus'--literally? (I was born in the early '60s, so I defniitely remember 'The Age of Aquarius' (was one of my favorite songs at the time!) and 'Godspell. But I never heard of an 'Aquarian Gospel of Jesus' ... unless Godspell is what you're referring to? Even back then when I was a kid, although I didn't actually SEE it, songs like 'I Don't Know How to Love Him' struck me as potentially blasphemous.
@@mooncove yup check it out on Amazon it’s called "The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ"🙏🏽👼🏼🕊
Yes.I want to know about that
I read that book 20 years ago. It was a great read but I never believed it
Some people seek truth, keeping an open mind and looking objectively at data and applying reason. Others take a perspective of the universe FROM a given, defined mindset and reject matters which call into question their established dogma.
That goes with the difference between faith and religion.
I notice this guy tosses out the word “cult” in a derogatory way. What defines a “cult”? When a religious group has a billion members, does the mere number of members disqualify it as a “cult”? If so, does it rather upend the entire notion that “a cult is a group of ‘bad’ people”?
Here, again, I see one group of people, defined by their beliefs, chastising other groups of people FOR HAVING DIFFERENT BELIEFS. Who is it drawing the lines of “us versus them”?
As I said, this fellow and all of his cheering supporters on this thread are the very reason I no longer see value in religion, all while my faith has become deeper.
In your critique of me are you defending your belief against me by chastising me for having different beliefs? Hmm, it almost seems like its you verses me? Dare I say just a different "us vs. them" scenario?
Your comment is one of the very reasons I no longer see value in vague a-historical platitudes that end up creating logically contradictory statements in the name of open-mindedness. Looks like your mind might be so opened it fell out.
You erred when you said Buddhism was not introduced into Nepal until the 7th century. Secondly, there was a busy sea trade route between Roman Palestine & India which route was taken by Thomas to Kerala, India 50 years after Jesus death. And Jesus would have been married with numerous kids according to Jewish tradition had he stayed in Nazareth during the lost years. Finally, the 4 gospels did not mention the lost years because it was written years after Jesus's ministry of a mere 3 years, by those who were not aware of it just as the infancy gospels were not known. Only when you start to think outside of the box/book will you realize that the complete life of a spiritual master from childhood if accountable is important.✝✝✝
Please provide at minimum one first-hand primary source older than the 7th century that records the existence of Buddhism in any prominent way within the country of Tibet.
Please give me any contemporaneous source stating that Jesus was anything other than what we have him described as in the earliest and most-reliable historical sources: that is, a single, unmarried man who lived a celibate life and died by crucifixion in his early 30s.
@@WesHuff Firstly, Nepal is not in Tibet, where Buddhism was introduced in 700CE. Whereas there are numerous historical evidence of Buddhism in Northern India in the form of stupas from 200 BCE left by Emperor Ashoka & around the foothills of Nepal where Buddha was born. Secondly, if one can claim Catholicism to be the earliest form of Christianity practiced after the crucifixion then it is reasonable that celibacy is one of the requirements of church as endorsed by Jesus. Finally, it would be uncommon for a grown Jewish man of that time not to marry when they are of age when girls were married off soon as they reach adolescent. It is recommendable you read up on Joseph of Arimathea & his association with Glastonbury England to widen your historical knowledge outside of your "earliest & most reliable non historical STORIES but a book of faith that only mentioned Jesus ministry of 3 poxy years, much later by others & in Greek & not Aramaic the language of Jesus & his followers for non Jewish people where the Jews who did not believe in his divinity.
@@MustAfaalik I think you misunderstood my question, I asked for first-hand primary sources. I'll wait for you to cite those.
In the meantime, I'm well aware of the supposed connection between Joseph of Arimathea and Glastonbury, unfortunately the earliest reference to that connection is from the 9th century and it wasn't really attempted to be made substantial until the 14th. As to your comment regarding Jesus, Greek, and Aramaic I'll leave this here: www.wesleyhuff.com/blog/2019/12/16/did-jesus-speak-greek.
@@WesHuff The fact that the document was written in Pali & not Tibetan is evident that Jesus was in that part of that Jesus was in that area where Buddhism was already practiced.
Your assumption that Jesus spoke Greek is possible but it is doubtful that he could write in Greek as that is only possible if he had an education in Greek where it is not the common language & only limited to those who could afford such education like Luke, Mark & Mathew. And the reason the gospels were written in Greek & not Aramaic gives a strong indication that the local Jewish population did not accept Jesus as anything but a wandering Rabbi & not the prophet according to the gospels who performed the miracles in view of thousands. The same conclusion had the Quran being written in Latin when Mohamed spoke Arabic would indicate. There are undeniable possibilities that Joseph the Uncle of Jesus, a tin magnate who had strong connections & influence with the Romans played a huge part in the enigma of Jesus following the crucifixion that was not known to the gospel writers written years after. End of discussion.
gospel of Thomas?
Yes. See -- www.wesleyhuff.com/blog/2020/9/22/why-i-date-the-gospel-of-thomas-late
Jesus was one of the spiritual Students in Nalanda/ Takshasela university ( oldest universities in the world). Missing years. Bharat has very advanced culture with recorded history over 15000 years. Anybody still believing in god is childish like a big man sitting up there.
Except Nalanda University was founded almost 500 years after Jesus’s death. So that makes that theory a little bit tricky. Takshasela is significantly older but there is absolutely no evidence of Jesus ever having been there. We actually have a decent recorded history of the area during the Hellenistic period due to Alexander the Great’s taking of control of the Indus Valley. Despite all of that there’s no evidence Jesus was ever there.
Teenage Jesus was a rebel !🤣
It seems Jesus went to Ladakh /tibet , to learn black magic.....
Using the word "missing years" for some people who think Jesus is God is very problematic and put the whole Jesus being God thing in question
Jesus sacrificed himself for the truth, there are many examples of those who sacrificed themselves for the truth also.There are many many miracles he performed. Many sadhus and yogis of India have also done so. as Jesus forgives all the sins. A Guru also takes away and forgives all the sins of his disciple by the grease of God. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Bamakhyapa, BalakBrahma Chari - there are many such names.
Where the Bible calls man sinners. Hindu scriptures refer to man as the son of Amrita {Son of God }. I see no noble purpose in making someone feel inferior and then promising to make him great. You are sinner not because of your ancestor disobey God. It makes no sense.
I don’t know if my Jesus went to the Far East. I wouldn’t compare him with Marco Polo though because Jesus is divine and who knows. Marko Polo was just human. If people in the Far East talk about, that he was there………"
Plus St Thomas came to in India in 52AD as well and spread Christianity,so if he could travel from Israel to India why couldn't Jesus do so as well? Not to mention the 1st century was one of the safest times to travel right from Spain to China because of all the stable silk road empires of the time
The claim is not simply that Jesus went to India, but to Nepal. That is what I was commenting on specifically. On top of that, and as someone who has looked into this extensively, the evidence that the Thomas who possibly went to India was the apostle is very scant and, frankly, unreliable. I have no doubt that someone took Christianity to India very early, and his name very well could have been Thomas (a not uncommon Greek name within antiquity). But based on the solid historical evidence that that individual was in fact Thomas the disciple, that is hardly anything I would feel comfortable saying confidently.
@@WesHuff i lived in the city that St Thomas died and his basilica was built as well, every Christian in Chennai claims this to be fact, also Syrian Catholics are the biggest group of Christians in Kerala who also trace themselves back to 52 AD with the coming of St Thomas, maybe you could give some more research into that.
Nepal and India have been highly connected throughout history and it wasn't uncommon for people from Southern India to become priests in the Himalayas, 1000s of miles away, so Jesus traveling from the western coast of India to Nepal is not implausible at all even in the 1st century
@@akshathdharmadheeran6074 So we have two issues here. The first is Jesus in India/Napal. This is a claim with 0 evidence on its side, one that no scholar within the field of Historical Jesus Studies takes seriously because of the lack of first-hand documentary evidence (compiled with the implausibility of the claims and the fact that everything we have about Jesus' childhood says he was in Egypt and Nazareth and nowhere else). There is no plausibility to the theory because its an argument based not on the evidence but in spite of it.
Secondly is the Thomas in India issue. It's a very common claim -- no denying that. But there are levels of historical credibility to the tales of the Apostles and they exist on a gradient. Some have a lot of evidential weight on their side --- such as Peter and Paul's exploits and martyrdoms in Rome. There's corroborative and independent writings, we have multiple attestation and both Christian and non-Christian attribution. Near the bottom of the list is Thomas.
Thomas, unfortunately, has very confusing and conflicting evidence for his actual whereabouts and where he ended up. There is no written record of Thomas in India from India until the 16th century. The oral stories that are associated with Thomas within India vary widely and are chalk full of embellishment. It is hard to figure out what is myth and what is history. Early church writings about Thomas (his ministry and fate) before Nicaea and after Nicaea also differ. It is possible that Thomas ended up in India but, I think based on the inconclusive evidence, it is not hugely probable given the evidence.
@@WesHuff i don't believe that Jesus came to India either, but to say that it's impossible was what I wanted to counter given that records from that time vary from sketchy to non existent
@@akshathdharmadheeran6074 I say as much at 5:54 that such a journey would not have been impossible but would have been incredibly unlikely.
No . Jesus didn't go india. He was with his family and after his daddy died he started his public ministry.
Luke 2: 41-52 “And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.”
Deuteronomy 5:16 “Honour thy father and thy mother, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.”
No Marsha, Jesus was not in India teaching the swamis. He was in Nazareth being obedient as a good Son to Mary and Joseph.
Neither India, nor the Moon. Just Greece.
No one, from today, really knows right ? So it’s all speculation I just can’t believe for 18 years my man was just a carpenter that no one wrote about 🤷🏼♂️ he was a carpenter just thinking about what he was gonna say when he broke out at 30 ? not my Jesus, but u choose your own Jesus
There are parallels or coincidences and some of them are known as the Hermetic principles.
This is all interesting! And also....it's just weird.
Ah, no wonder it's so interesting then. If it's weird, it's important! (Hmm, where have I heard THAT expression? ;) Speaking as someone who's always been weird and often told so, I can't help liking it! I'm waiting for Mike Heiser to get THAT T-shirt made up so I can finally buy something off his website! I'm curious what Wes Huff thinks of Heiser's work. Mike Winger actually said when asked the same question something like, 'Well, he is a Christian. And he goes to a Biblically sound church. But ... some of what he writes is .... just weird.' The 'just weird' part is verbatim! Or is that what you're intentionally getting at?)
He was messing around in the poppy fields
I think the possessive form of a name that ends in s, is not to add another s, but just one s. So, it would be Jesus' rather than Jesus's. We love your videos.
Thanks for watching!
As English goes both are technically acceptable forms of the possessive . If a proper name ends with an s, you can add just the apostrophe or an apostrophe and an s and both are considered grammatically and syntactically acceptable. But I appreciate being kept accountable!
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Our Lord Jesus Christ was preaching and teaching at the age of twelve at synagogues to the scribes,saducees,the religious elders,rabbi and others this people were stunned amazed by his this young boys knowledge wisdom.It couldn't be he learned from eastern culture which taught a system the most worst ugly,evil terrifying Caste system the baddest in humanity history could find to discriminate human being in a multiple levels till to the Extreme just for the strongest and fittest to survive and rule.
In Christ we all are brothers and equal, we love ❤ each other forgiving no to revenge and we are taught to love our enemies too.
No others teach or being in this manner except Christ like. If their good gurus and masters how is their track record towards woman and the weak how do they treat now in their communities?? Well their living lifestyle tells everything
I literally just listened to a sermon by Pastor John MacArthur and he was talking about it a magazine he was reading and the guy said that he was Jesus‘s grandson, and it all took place from ages 12 to 29 years old which is actually perfect because those years in the Bible aren’t spoken about (how ironic) , but in the article it said that he went to India and stayed in Kashmir and had children and that he studied Buddhism and became a Buddhist teacher
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Unbelievable the length people will go to misinterpret what Jesus did and who He actually was
Also what’s even more ironic is that I just watched your video on why Christmas isn’t pagan, and then this just started playing, I didn’t even click on it so can’t wait to hear what you have to say
"Unbelievable the length people will go to misinterpret what Jesus did and who He actually was"
Apply this to the entirety of that man teaches under the filter understanding of Manichaeism theology and you WILL see clearly mcarther
is preaching "another gospel another jesis".
He mutters ERROR after ERROR after ERROR after ERROR.
He claim the Torah is "done away with'
when the prophets said IT WILL be the ONLY thing taught in eternity from Chri=st at mt Zion.
YHVH doesn't anoint ppl like him Nor does he send ppl like Him to minister to a soul .
1 John 4
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
SO, Them WHOS the lair!
Some guy that misleads you ppl blindly so or the many prophets that said the word is eternal Christ himself said is, and Hosea?
Problem is 95% of ppl are used to his pablum and heretical unbiblical doctrines from top 1000 pulpit pundits so the black/white line isn't discerned any longer.
Witchcraft has its way to Put a spin Under this hypnotic state where ppl are accepting heresy as truth.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap tothemselves teachers, having itching ears;
Silk Road
The difficulty of travel to Nepal is overstated. The Silk Road resulted in Chinese silk found in Egyptian graves. It was only a few hundred years after Jesus that Norsemen had a permanent embassy in Constantinople. Unlike Alexander the Great, who was traveling with an army and conquering along the way, trading caravans would cover vast distances regularly (usually just portions of the so-called Silk Road, not the whole distance).
That said, trying to find “sources” for Jesus’ teaching outside of Palestine is agenda-driven wishful thinking. There’s no good evidence, internal or external, that Jesus ever made such travels.
It’s always worthwhile, as you did, to trace the claim to its source.
It's not that the trip would have been impossible just incredibly improbable. The issue is that the silk road was a travelers and traders rout. The silk we find in places like Egypt was passed through trading routs and as far as we know no one individual made the entire trip to China and then back to Egypt by themselves (at least not in the first century). The contact between the ancient far east and the Greco-Roman Empire was indirect in Jesus day, especially since the Parthians lay between Rome and China and neither Empires were that interested in disturbing them (they were quite hostile to Rome). The most direct trip would have been the sea root to India through the Persian Gulf into the coast of India which in Jesus' day would have been a recent development. Once again, not impossible, just highly unlikely.
@@WesHuff I don't mean this as an argument, but are you saying that people didn't travel by sea back then? What about the nearby Phoenicians? Rome conquered Britain sometime around the year 50 A.D. And Paul was shipwrecked and also walked all the way to Rome. (I'm halfway through Acts right now, and just the _thought of how many miles_ he and whoever was with him--apparently he often had people with him who Luke just doesn't bother to mention until they do something worth mentioning!--covered in is making my feet hurt!) In fact, would you say that that style of writing is probably why Jesus appears to have 'missing years' in the gospels. I mean, the example you gave gives all the names of his brothers but not of his sisters too. It seems to me that we're expecting the Bible to read like a novel when the style of novels we're used to reading just didn't exist yet, so during the years when nothing important or unusual for the son of a Jewish carpenter in that time and place happened, they just didn't get written down. As opposed to actually spelling out, 'And during all that time, Jesus spent his time not sinning, which greatly annoyed his naughty brothers and sisters, who wondered enviously how he always managed never to get in trouble or make any mistakes.'
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But I agree it wasn't likely that a young Jesus would've made such a trip; I kind of imagine he was probably busy helping Joseph with the carpentry in between studying the Scriptures. And, being God, having the physical experience of growing up and living in a human body in the human world so that he could relate to people during his ministry. Is that a potential scenario?
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(I need to know for my upcoming gnostic infancy gospel ... I mean Bible fan fiction so I can fill in all the gaps in Jesus's life! 'Hey, why does HE get to go on a cruise to India and WE don't? No fair!' exclaimed James. 'Now, James, we've talked about this. When you're his age, if you're still interested, you can go to India too. But not if you don't finish studying for your quiz on Isaiah,' Joseph replied. 'Now stop complaining and DO it, or I'll take away your allowance this week and you'll have no spending money saved up when it's your turn.' Just kidding. Although I do seriously think of all those extraneous gospels as a form of ancient fan fiction. Times have changed, styles of biography and history writing have changed and developed into more of a for-profit art form, so you've got to suck the reader in from page 1 these days with all that competition to write a bestseller, but has human nature and the urge to tell stories really changed that much? In fact, I am curious whether the parables were true or if Jesus was just telling illustrative stories that he made up. That might be a good topic for a video if you know the answer and haven't done one on that yet, hint hint. But, either way, people have always enjoyed good stories, haven't they?)
@@mooncove I never said people didn’t travel by sea. Simply that the most direct root to the Far East was a fairly recent development in Jesus’ day and it would have been very unlikely (not impossible, just unlikely) that he would have been aware of, had access to, and gone that route.
Also, parables were a common teaching tool in the ancient world in both Greek (Hercules at the Crossroads), Persian (Akhfash’s Goat), and Hebrew (such as the parable of the ewe-lamb told by Nathan in 2 Samuel 12:1-9 and the parable of the woman of Tekoah in 2 Samuel 14:1-13) writings. No one would have considered them as explanations of stories that actually happened but as tools that contained real life places, names, and situations to illustrate a point.
@@WesHuff OK, thank you. So are you saying they're kind of like Aesop's fables? I always imagined them as Jesus sitting down with people and illustrating a point with an implied, 'Once upon a time ...,' not that it really happened? (It only recently occurred to me to wonder whether he might have been telling true stories that illustrate his point. Or make it even more obscure when talking to the Pharisees.)
clay birds - gospel of thomas - ad180 - quran copied this...lol
Slight correction: that’s from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, not the Gospel of Thomas. Similar name but very different documents. The story of the birds from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas only exists in the 5th/6th century version.
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Thank you - I was nearly there from memory 😋
😢 Nou jesus feet never touched the one n only spiritual holy land of the globe India boz if jesus feet touched Indian soil he would never advised to eat innocent animals 😢😢
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This is so good, I love the research, thanks! It's incredibly frustrating how these documentaries spread such garbage, literally inventing things out of thin air, and believing nonsense with no credibility, and they spread it around like fact. Then, people get their hands on it, and feel like they're so much smarter than everyone else because they know things no one else does, meanwhile it's nonsense, but you can't argue with them because they want to believe the nonsensical documentary...
Oh yea, like they do with the christian doctrines…? Prove one for me…
You have no idea how much the state decided what you think is true…
it’s literally crazy how much youre talking about yourself in this argument
@@Bhauer2011 The books that were written that we have in the New Testament were all written before Rome converted. The Christian church was heavily persecuted during that time. The people who wrote these documents we have in the New Testament were literally tortured and killed for what they believed. The state was completely against them, not in favor of them.
You're saying that the state decided a lot of what I believe in Christianity, and yet, the state was trying to destroy Christianity.
I prefer to believe a yogi saint called paramahansa yogananda than you.he authored a two volume set on the 2 nd coming of Jesus Christ.he said the author is Jesus Christ.their spoke in the spirit,and Jesus told him what to write.he has another book called the yoga of Jesus.he in fact studied and did yoga in India.their also have books writing about Jesus living in India.elites probably took things out of the original bible,and added things as well,therefore corrupting the original Roman Catholic Bible.before you prayer ask god for discernment,and he would lead you in the right direction.yogis and Hindus believe in reincarnation this makes no sense that the Roman Catholics say reincarnation is false.why would god possibly make you to live one life.god made us in his image,and through many lifetimes through doing spirituality you finally evolve to a god man,so it comes like god is the ocean,and we are a drop in the ocean.everyone living will one day develop this Christ consciousness.one god,but different paths to this god.a lot of frauds out there so be careful
He never went to India. Stop this bafoonery.
Did you watch the video before commenting? The whole point of the video is that he didn’t go to India.
I didn't but thought i'd weigh in, that okay with you?@@WesHuff
@@zparker0110 you're welcome to do whatever you want. But I would highly recommend actually watching the content you're commenting on for the sake of not coming across as uninformed or ignorant. I'm not saying you are those things, but without actually knowing what was discussed that is the way it can come across.
I dont need to watch it, i've already read it. @@WesHuff
Jesus is was a never will be real