Thanks for sharing this information. I need to adjust my 20 bore Montefeltro and this has been the clearest explanation and demonstration. All the best from Scotland 🏴 GD
I am new to shotguns and I am purchasing the SBE 3 in January 2023. This was very informative. I truly had no idea that this was possible. In fact, up until this video, I did not know that this was a thing. Thank you for sharing!
Hello everyone am looking for benellinsemi auto for pigeon shooting mainly do u advice getting new Ethos supersport or Super Black Eagle 3. Thanks for the advice from experienced shooters.
i never knew about any of this, just bought a super vinci and seen these extra parts..... youtube time ahah, well i guess i gota go to the range now this was extremely educational to me thank you very much!
Do I understand that the right to left or right to left can be adjusted by the shim. I'd like to try it both ways. I am dominant left but I play golf right handed. Does that make me ambidextrous?
I have an opinion and since you are an expert I'm asking if my opinion is wrong or correct. It is my opinion that a quality shotgun should shoot a near 50-50 pattern when shot from a rest looking right down the rib with the bead just under the point of aim. After this accuracy is established, then the gun can be fitted to the individual giving the desired pattern position. Am I right or wrong?
Please Help: Beneli 28guage still shoots high and to the left after placing "D" shims and "D DX. Very disappointed with poa not even close poi. What next?
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
I wouldn’t define switching between left and right handed as the ability to adjust cast. My Benelli M2 is shooting 4” left @ 14 yards, so I need to adjust the cast, but this shim system doesn’t let me. Anyone know where I can get cast shims?
Have you tried your dealer or directly from factory? Anyway a gunsmith Will do it for you. This is a very user friendley vídeo but very important parameters like pitch and Cast at the toe were not clarify. Just shoot!!
Informative video. I own/owned over 10 semi auto Benellis over the year’s. The latest is an M2 and an Ethos (no SBE3) all have shot perfectly for me. All but the Ethos I’ve put an aftermarket hi vis sight which could possibly lower my point of impact.
good video. SO, on my new sbe3, it shoots a little high and to the left for me. I understand going to a B or C shim to try to lower it but how do I make it go more to the right? I am a right handed shooter. thanks
@@ssshatt sorry but never could. Didn't get a reply from Benelli, all they said was the shims. I went duck hunting in Arkansas and didn't seem to be off much but still.... that much for a nice gun and not straight?? I did fall on the way into a swamp and it went under water.Took a couple min to clean the barrel and no. problems.
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
His last statement mentions not going to a D shim….. but the gun doesn’t come with a D shim in the kit…. Just ZABC. Is there an actual D shim? Mine shoots about 65/35 and would like to bring it down even more.
The recoils plates are reversible both horizontally and vertically. You sure you didn’t just miss the labeling? Or are you talking about the plastic shims. Check the shim on the gun your adjusting. They could be stuck together on it
I have a razor red dot on my SBE3 and the dot is right on the middle of pattern. whenever I should the shotgun, dot appears quickly and can shoot any thing with perfect lead. I use it for waterfowl,turkey,high flying geese,... and have no problem at all.
Mine still shot a 100-0 with the C shim in and it had feeding issues. Set the gun out for them to repair it. I got it back. Shoots close to a 90-10 with the C shim. They told me it's in spec. I'm sending it back out again because the bolt gets stuck open and still shoots high 90-10 with the C shim. I like the gun but not liking the issues.
I do love my SBE3 but its more of a "im not getting rid of it because I already have a 1 and 2 in the family coming my way eventually." Mine with a c shim is still shooting like 95/05 with a hi viz comp sight. I love the ergonomics and I kill ducks with it (aiming about a foot below them) but wish it patterned more like an 870 or any other pump shotgun or my Brownings....find myself grabbing the old A5 to hunt these days. Buddies have the newer Franchis that shoot great out the box, and I've been considering getting just to have a similar feel to the way the sbe3 feels and not have to retrain myself every time I hunt with a different gun.
@@Zach-td5mb I have a new one and an 85 Japanese mag 12. I never notice recoil much to be honest with shotguns other than between gauges, especially hunting when ducks are flying. I notice it with rifles though. The old Mag 12 I guess kicks a little bit but it has a 32" barrel so it's a little more backwards than upward recoil, if that makes sense. The new model a5 and sbe3 I dont notice any real difference between the two but they kick upward. I do notice the chevrons on the 20 ga. m2 though, you can feel them sort of bend in and recoil backwards moreso than up, but my 12 sbe3 doesn't really do that, which is weird because it has the same chevrons and comfortech or whatever they are calling it.
In all the years I had a Benelli I never thought it fit me correctly. Mine came with a full shim kit, but I had no idea how to use it and was afraid to take the gun apart. This kind of a service and guidance would have been so helpful to have. I might have kept the shotgun instead of selling it at a loss.
@@ihackurshitlolz -- If you're referring to my comment, as you can see from the context of what I wrote, my Benelli is long gone. Sold for a lot less than I paid for it.
I recently purchased the SBE 3 and was afraid of it shooting high but I had been considering the purchase for the last 3 years and finally got it. Mine shoots just about where I want it to so I was pleasantly surprised.
You represent yourself as a Benelli expert, therefore I ask you this question: how does one setup a Benelli for neutral cast? I'm a left handed granddad who lives in the country. My grandkids enjoy coming out and shooting clays, they're all right handed. I have a collection of 20 ga semi autos for our enjoyment and recently purchased a Benelli M2. So far it's worthless for my purpose because I cannot figure out how to set it to neutral cast.
@@gamota4523 my issue is I've been left handed for 73 yrs and don't wish to change. However all my (in training) grandkids are right handed, therefore my wish for neutral because I like to let them shoot my nice shotguns. For years a nice off the shelf shotgun was neutral, we had no problem when I was growing up around right handed dad and granddads. I do have a new Browning Silver Midas 20 ga which can be set up any of 3 ways.
Just got my SBE3 20 guage today, watched this video before I ordered the gun, but great refresher as I am about to start patterning my gun now that I have it. My Stoeger that I upgraded from had a similar shim, but the angle wasn't right for me. Needed a little bit more drop, but with Benelli D shims being 5° more than the Stoeger, I think this will work even better for me.
I am a massive Benelli fan. I own a super 90, an SBE II, and a Super Nova. The stock is the only thing I would change if I could. Just make a straight stock. No cast, no drop. Just leave it neutral. 99% of people are not going to care or try to adjust the stock. Just make it neutral like the old super 90 stocks. I would honestly pay more for a regular stock than something that has gel, and chevrons, and cast on or off. It’s shotgun. Most people at least in the US treat shotguns like they treat a hammer or screw driver. Not like a Holland and Holland or a Parker. Make it reliable. Make it as impervious as you can to corrosion. And leave it alone. The sportsman version of the SBE2 (or whatever the non comfort tech was) was the best shotgun the company ever made. I’ve replaced all the comfort tech stocks I have with standard stocks and drilled the plate neutral. They can get a non CT M2 in Europe, but I can’t get one in the US. Why? For the love of god go back to Simply Perfect. In a world of kick off, comfort tech, rubber and gel inserts, we will pay for just a regular no gimmicks drop dead reliable shotgun. Benelli’s don’t need gimmicks to sell and anyone at the company who thinks that is straight up wrong. Digital marketing team - email this comment to the VP. Please. #makebenelligreatagain
I can understand the shims for fit purposes but as far as point of impact goes, when you pattern your gun you’re sighting down the rib to the bead to the target. I have a M1 and a M2 and the M2 shoots a foot high and I hate it. My M1 shoots dead center, the way it should be. I was in the market last year for a new shotgun and I went with Browning because all of the reviews and videos of the super black eagle shooting excessively high. Sorry benelli, your shotguns are truly awesome but they need to hit where they’re pointed
I’m looking at the maxus 2 because my sbe3 shotgun shoots excessively high, they even sent my gun back a second time even on one of their paper targets and the pellets are shooting 100% high and they say its within spec. What a joke.
@@jonhoward8546 I got the A5 wicked wing 3-1/2”. So far it shoots awesome, only been goose hunting once and dove hunting once but so far it’s been great and shoots dead center
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
So what do you do if you buy one these for turkey hunting? Not everybody likes the red dot sight. Maybe you should just make a gun that shoots 60/40 out of the box, if people want a trap gun then buy a trap gun.
My sbe3 shoots light bird shot loads shoot a 60/40 and my waterfowl loads shoot a 100% high from 20 yards to 40 yards, with the modified choke I’ve used multiple different #2 shot 3” 1-1/4 loads like Kent faststeel. I have the c-shim in, sent it to benelli twice and still shoots 100% high. They even sent their paper target with a Kent waterfowl shot load with the pellets hitting 100% high on the target bulls eye saying its within spec. I had to send it to rob roberts to try and fix it. That’s a 150-250$ fix. Seems like they really don’t care not responding to emails or customers etc.
I had the exact issue. The pattern kept getting higher and higher the heavier the loads. I was center if patter 12 inches high at 20’ yards with 3 inch shells and 18 inches high at 20 yards with 3 1/2. Like try and make that adjustment in the field. I got rid of it.
I have the same issue. I'm sending it back to benelli the 2ed time, it had feeding issues also. Now it still shoots high but now the bolt is getting stuck open and doesn't matter how much oil I add. This thing is about to get off for a browning if it doesn't get fixed.
Thanks for sharing this information. I need to adjust my 20 bore Montefeltro and this has been the clearest explanation and demonstration. All the best from Scotland 🏴 GD
I just bought the BSE 3 in 20 gauge it came with the C shim installed. It shoots a 60 40 pattern out of the box. Gun fits me perfect.
Same. I'm 6'0 71in reach.
Whats your height?
How should I adjust my SBE3 as I am a right handed shooter who is left eye dominant? Thank you!
I am new to shotguns and I am purchasing the SBE 3 in January 2023. This was very informative. I truly had no idea that this was possible. In fact, up until this video, I did not know that this was a thing. Thank you for sharing!
Hello everyone am looking for benellinsemi auto for pigeon shooting mainly do u advice getting new Ethos supersport or Super Black Eagle 3.
Thanks for the advice from experienced shooters.
Mine is nothing like this, my manual does not even match. WTF.
That was exactly the video I was looking for! Excellent graphics, very good demonstration of fitting
When test shooting the gun. Are you aiming with the bead OR looking at the hole in the plate, holder then fire?
i never knew about any of this, just bought a super vinci and seen these extra parts..... youtube time ahah, well i guess i gota go to the range now this was extremely educational to me thank you very much!
My sbe3 is wack.. can't get use to aiming low. And make sure you add on a good sight for turkey hunting.
Do I understand that the right to left or right to left can be adjusted by the shim. I'd like to try it both ways. I am dominant left but I play golf right handed. Does that make me ambidextrous?
I have an opinion and since you are an expert I'm asking if my opinion is wrong or correct.
It is my opinion that a quality shotgun should shoot a near 50-50 pattern when shot from a rest looking right down the rib with the bead just under the point of aim.
After this accuracy is established, then the gun can be fitted to the individual giving the desired pattern position.
Am I right or wrong?
What kind of choke tube is used when determining drop/cast at a 20 yard distance as illustrated in this video?
I think I read that the factory patterns 20yd with an IC tube in.
Please Help: Beneli 28guage still shoots high and to the left after placing "D" shims and "D DX. Very disappointed with poa not even close poi. What next?
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
How can I get more cast off to right I am shoot to left with the dx shims
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
This doesn’t make sense to me how are you adjusting point of impact with shims ???
Is there a D shim that comes with it in the box. If there is one why I don’t have it?!
Mine came with the d shim in the box. Contact Benelli they will gladly assist you.
How far from target do you do this testing? And is it same distance for all 5 chokes?
I wouldn’t define switching between left and right handed as the ability to adjust cast.
My Benelli M2 is shooting 4” left @ 14 yards, so I need to adjust the cast, but this shim system doesn’t let me.
Anyone know where I can get cast shims?
Have you tried your dealer or directly from factory? Anyway a gunsmith Will do it for you. This is a very user friendley vídeo but very important parameters like pitch and Cast at the toe were not clarify. Just shoot!!
So the video labeled adjust drop and cast didn’t include cast? Makes perfect sense
Informative video. I own/owned over 10 semi auto Benellis over the year’s. The latest is an M2 and an Ethos (no SBE3) all have shot perfectly for me. All but the Ethos I’ve put an aftermarket hi vis sight which could possibly lower my point of impact.
Is this done with target loads or steel?
This is my local sporting clays course.
good video. SO, on my new sbe3, it shoots a little high and to the left for me. I understand going to a B or C shim to try to lower it but how do I make it go more to the right? I am a right handed shooter. thanks
I have the same issue …let me know if you found out how to solve the problem
Thanks
@@ssshatt sorry but never could. Didn't get a reply from Benelli, all they said was the shims. I went duck hunting in Arkansas and didn't seem to be off much but still.... that much for a nice gun and not straight?? I did fall on the way into a swamp and it went under water.Took a couple min to clean the barrel and no. problems.
I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
His last statement mentions not going to a D shim….. but the gun doesn’t come with a D shim in the kit…. Just ZABC. Is there an actual D shim? Mine shoots about 65/35 and would like to bring it down even more.
I got a sbe 3 best .. I have a,b,c,d shim. I don’t have a z shim
The recoils plates are reversible both horizontally and vertically. You sure you didn’t just miss the labeling? Or are you talking about the plastic shims. Check the shim on the gun your adjusting. They could be stuck together on it
Mine did came with the D shim and the results were great I was shooting 50 / 50.
Thank you. I need to put the stock a little bit down. How can I make it by A, B or C shim? Waiting your clarification?
I honestly just want an over under that has customization cast, drop, and length.
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How tight the nut of the stock.?
Great video that helped alot! Thank you
I have a razor red dot on my SBE3 and the dot is right on the middle of pattern. whenever I should the shotgun, dot appears quickly and can shoot any thing with perfect lead.
I use it for waterfowl,turkey,high flying geese,... and have no problem at all.
Mine still shot a 100-0 with the C shim in and it had feeding issues. Set the gun out for them to repair it. I got it back. Shoots close to a 90-10 with the C shim. They told me it's in spec. I'm sending it back out again because the bolt gets stuck open and still shoots high 90-10 with the C shim. I like the gun but not liking the issues.
Im shooting the same way 100-0 with C and 90/10 with D. What happened with sending back
What if it shoots 60:40 with lead and 70:30 with steel ?
funny. mine does that. Perftec with skeet load and high and left with steel shot?
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I do love my SBE3 but its more of a "im not getting rid of it because I already have a 1 and 2 in the family coming my way eventually." Mine with a c shim is still shooting like 95/05 with a hi viz comp sight. I love the ergonomics and I kill ducks with it (aiming about a foot below them) but wish it patterned more like an 870 or any other pump shotgun or my Brownings....find myself grabbing the old A5 to hunt these days. Buddies have the newer Franchis that shoot great out the box, and I've been considering getting just to have a similar feel to the way the sbe3 feels and not have to retrain myself every time I hunt with a different gun.
How’s the recoil on the A5 compared to the benelli? Assuming you’re talking about the og Auto 5
@@Zach-td5mb I have a new one and an 85 Japanese mag 12. I never notice recoil much to be honest with shotguns other than between gauges, especially hunting when ducks are flying. I notice it with rifles though. The old Mag 12 I guess kicks a little bit but it has a 32" barrel so it's a little more backwards than upward recoil, if that makes sense. The new model a5 and sbe3 I dont notice any real difference between the two but they kick upward. I do notice the chevrons on the 20 ga. m2 though, you can feel them sort of bend in and recoil backwards moreso than up, but my 12 sbe3 doesn't really do that, which is weird because it has the same chevrons and comfortech or whatever they are calling it.
In all the years I had a Benelli I never thought it fit me correctly. Mine came with a full shim kit, but I had no idea how to use it and was afraid to take the gun apart. This kind of a service and guidance would have been so helpful to have. I might have kept the shotgun instead of selling it at a loss.
I’ll buy it from you.
@@ihackurshitlolz -- If you're referring to my comment, as you can see from the context of what I wrote, my Benelli is long gone. Sold for a lot less than I paid for it.
Wonderful and informative show thank you. Hi from Iraq.
Why is it all the factory SBE3’s shoot high!? I’ve never experienced this with my Nova or the SBE2.
Not all of them shoot high. I’ve got 3 that are all POA POI
I recently purchased the SBE 3 and was afraid of it shooting high but I had been considering the purchase for the last 3 years and finally got it. Mine shoots just about where I want it to so I was pleasantly surprised.
Mine shoots 95 5 high out of the box. Time to shim and check pattern
Would of been great if my leftie Montefeltro came with a shim kit.
You represent yourself as a Benelli expert, therefore I ask you this question: how does one setup a Benelli for neutral cast?
I'm a left handed granddad who lives in the country. My grandkids enjoy coming out and shooting clays, they're all right handed. I have a collection of 20 ga semi autos for our enjoyment and recently purchased a Benelli M2.
So far it's worthless for my purpose because I cannot figure out how to set it to neutral cast.
@@gamota4523a nice honest answer concerning an over priced shotgun.
@@gamota4523 my issue is I've been left handed for 73 yrs and don't wish to change. However all my (in training) grandkids are right handed, therefore my wish for neutral because I like to let them shoot my nice shotguns. For years a nice off the shelf shotgun was neutral, we had no problem when I was growing up around right handed dad and granddads.
I do have a new Browning Silver Midas 20 ga which can be set up any of 3 ways.
@@gamota4523 I agree. You would think on a $2,000 gun one would be furnished everything one might need.
Great stuff Thanks for sharing 👍
Sar g how much this one
What an excellent video!!
Just got my SBE3 20 guage today, watched this video before I ordered the gun, but great refresher as I am about to start patterning my gun now that I have it.
My Stoeger that I upgraded from had a similar shim, but the angle wasn't right for me. Needed a little bit more drop, but with Benelli D shims being 5° more than the Stoeger, I think this will work even better for me.
To bad they don't fix this issue. I'd have bought a 12 and 20 by now
Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated
A friend bought a super sports performance and he had to take it to a gunsmith for 80/20 days to adjust it.
Cool system
CZ 1012 has all this for $1400 less. Get your patent up
That’s ok if you are shooting flying birds. Not worth a damn for shooting turkeys, deer and hogs. Where you have to aim it like a rifle.
I am a massive Benelli fan. I own a super 90, an SBE II, and a Super Nova. The stock is the only thing I would change if I could. Just make a straight stock. No cast, no drop. Just leave it neutral. 99% of people are not going to care or try to adjust the stock. Just make it neutral like the old super 90 stocks. I would honestly pay more for a regular stock than something that has gel, and chevrons, and cast on or off. It’s shotgun. Most people at least in the US treat shotguns like they treat a hammer or screw driver. Not like a Holland and Holland or a Parker. Make it reliable. Make it as impervious as you can to corrosion. And leave it alone.
The sportsman version of the SBE2 (or whatever the non comfort tech was) was the best shotgun the company ever made. I’ve replaced all the comfort tech stocks I have with standard stocks and drilled the plate neutral.
They can get a non CT M2 in Europe, but I can’t get one in the US. Why?
For the love of god go back to Simply Perfect. In a world of kick off, comfort tech, rubber and gel inserts, we will pay for just a regular no gimmicks drop dead reliable shotgun. Benelli’s don’t need gimmicks to sell and anyone at the company who thinks that is straight up wrong.
Digital marketing team - email this comment to the VP. Please. #makebenelligreatagain
Very very nice gun
There is a problem with the shot
Come to the left and up the target who suffers only the right-handed shooter
I had an 1989 M1 super90 no pistol grip, I dislike it is an understatement.
I can understand the shims for fit purposes but as far as point of impact goes, when you pattern your gun you’re sighting down the rib to the bead to the target. I have a M1 and a M2 and the M2 shoots a foot high and I hate it. My M1 shoots dead center, the way it should be. I was in the market last year for a new shotgun and I went with Browning because all of the reviews and videos of the super black eagle shooting excessively high. Sorry benelli, your shotguns are truly awesome but they need to hit where they’re pointed
@@gamota4523 I never changed or checked them
I’m looking at the maxus 2 because my sbe3 shotgun shoots excessively high, they even sent my gun back a second time even on one of their paper targets and the pellets are shooting 100% high and they say its within spec. What a joke.
How’s the browning shoot? What model did you get?
@@jonhoward8546 I got the A5 wicked wing 3-1/2”. So far it shoots awesome, only been goose hunting once and dove hunting once but so far it’s been great and shoots dead center
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I had the same problem with the ethos cal 20 and the supersport cal 12, I sold them both out of desperation, I couldn't hit anything at all, in exchange I bought an a400 upland cal 20 and a browning maxus 2 cal 12 and I was reborn, no problem.
So what do you do if you buy one these for turkey hunting? Not everybody likes the red dot sight. Maybe you should just make a gun that shoots 60/40 out of the box, if people want a trap gun then buy a trap gun.
I bought mine with turkey hunting being what I would use it for the most. Sick to my stomach about it. Why can it not shoot 60/40 out the box?
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My sbe3 shoots light bird shot loads shoot a 60/40 and my waterfowl loads shoot a 100% high from 20 yards to 40 yards, with the modified choke I’ve used multiple different #2 shot 3” 1-1/4 loads like Kent faststeel. I have the c-shim in, sent it to benelli twice and still shoots 100% high. They even sent their paper target with a Kent waterfowl shot load with the pellets hitting 100% high on the target bulls eye saying its within spec. I had to send it to rob roberts to try and fix it. That’s a 150-250$ fix. Seems like they really don’t care not responding to emails or customers etc.
I had the exact issue. The pattern kept getting higher and higher the heavier the loads. I was center if patter 12 inches high at 20’ yards with 3 inch shells and 18 inches high at 20 yards with 3 1/2. Like try and make that adjustment in the field. I got rid of it.
@@toddbunnett640 yeah that’s crazy. I just bought the maxus II stalker hopefully that shoots more straight
I have the same issue. I'm sending it back to benelli the 2ed time, it had feeding issues also. Now it still shoots high but now the bolt is getting stuck open and doesn't matter how much oil I add. This thing is about to get off for a browning if it doesn't get fixed.
Cats meow…
Buy a Browning maxus,Sx4 or a franchi affinity elite over these guns lol 😆 😂
Bought the maxus 2, perfect 50-50 pattern. The Franchi shoots a bit high as well
The franchi is made by benelli and is a clone of the M2. I have a franchi and it shoots high too if you aim straight down the rails
@@anthonykyang89 In the older franchis the m2 shoots far off then the affinity elite and the ergonomics are far better.