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are they true mouse click triggers like the skuf ? or do they just have less travel like the play station controller. if they have real mouse click then this is a game changer!!!
They definitely are true mouse click triggers yes, it isn't just that they are 1.5mm. I'd say the Scuf Reflex's triggers maybe feel very very very slightly shorter so maybe like 1.25mm, but they are both mouse click absolutely.
I just came here from your Star Wars Outlaws video and I'm so jealous and depressed. I was thinking the whole time watching your video and was about to comment what kind of controller is that till I got to the end. I can't believe I just recently got the Edge. I had no idea about this but I wish I did sooner. Now that you have this controller it probably doesn't matter but I originally thought you were crazy for using your Edge without a case. I like the feel to it but with how bad the grips are and the issues that's happened it's not worth the risk. I love the color option, I really don't mind the grey and also wouldn't mind the white except for the same Edge issues, I'm almost wondering if they should have just went with that blue maybe. Man you're lucky, I hope I can eventually get this controller. Wish I could sell or exchange my Edge for it. I still have mine brand new in the box as it's my second one and I'm waiting on a silicone case. Do you know if this company has a four pay option or a flex payments?
You know, I would expect that for $200, the Dpad wouldn't be one piece, but instead 4 independent buttons. The fact no one is touching this feature across all the consoles is just wild to me 😂
I did mention in this that if there was one main thing I could add, it would be individual clicky face buttons. They've acknowledged this feedback and hopefully it's in the future 😊
I use to be a hex fan. Tried aim as well. Dual sense edge is by far my top pick. And I play on pc. This controller looks nice but 279?!?!? That’s kinda wild.
great review man, the hall effect sticks look great, i play right hand claw so is there a version with out back buttons? it’s ok if they don’t because i could just not set them up.
Hey so sorry for the slow response, this had been held for review for some reason. 😅 I believe you add the hall effect thumbsticks on as an extra add-on AFTER reserving any of the options. Thanks for watching 😊
@NEKOMAI-MIA It almost does! But it isn't quite the same as it's switching between mouse click and just a full range trigger pull right? Or am I wrong on this, I'm not sure. I don't have the envision pro so am going off my previous research. The HEX PHANTOM switches between mouse click and a full range ADAPTIVE trigger system, not just standard. It's that which I particularly appreciate so I still get the trigger resistantce effects in racing games, Spider-Man etc. And thanks for watching! :) Glad you like the look of it!
@@Octorious I have one and I can confirm it’s switching exactly between mouse switch and analog switches :) And I totally agree that this is so far my favorite feature that Envision pro has, it’s just a pure joy to see more controller like this!
@NEKOMAI-MIA Are you sure they are adaptive triggers it switches to? So the ones that have a full resistance effect and motor in them? Not just full range analogue switches, there's a difference. From what I can tell online, they aren't adaptive triggers in the envision but just mouse click that can switch so standard. But yes fully agree, it's awesome to have that option there, even if not adaptive. Hate having to choose!
@@Motornationz I thought this was the case! I'm certain the Phantom is the only controller that actually does this. Thank you for watching and confirming 😊
Question what's the life span of a single charge on this thing? I didn't hear you mention anything about it and I know the one on the dual edge is trash.
@Spike9819 I should have definitely touched on this if I didn't, oops! 😅 I believe it uses the same battery as a regular dualsense, and from my experience, it lasts about the same amount of time on 1 charge as a regular PS5 controller would. Absolute worse case for me is it's maybe about 30 minutes less due to the extra features and buttons the regular controller has. However, if you go for the hall effect joysticks, battery life might take about an additional 30 minute hit due to how they work. That's more an educated guess if anything though as I have the regular sticks on mine. Regardless, it lasts a good bit longer than the Edge. The issue with the edge is that it's not only got the additional hardware, but to fit it in, they physically shrunk the battery and thus it has a lower capacity. Here, it should still be using the normal dualsense battery. 👍 Thanks for watching 😊
Will it be compatible with steam just like the dualsense edge so when connected to STEAM im able to customize ALL THE BUTTONS INCLUDING THE REAR peddles. Can it do that????
The Dualsense Edge remapping is software-side and then saved to the controller and thus needs support from steam for that. The Phantom, as shown in the video, has you use the controller buttons itself to bind the mappings and profiles, so you don't even need any other device to customise the mappings; they'll remain and work on everything from Steam to mobile phones :) Thanks for watching!
Hey! Thanks for watching 😊 I unfortunately don't have any Kontrolfreeks to be able to confirm directly, but I don't see why they wouldn't still fit. However, I'll ask Hex this directly and will come back to you soon if they have a better answer. 😊
For sure! The early version i was sent has certainly surpassed my expectations and as I said, it's my go-to controller now and am confident most others will feel the same. Thanks for watching!
@Tiller2G I have the scuf too and the Scuf does not have the same trigger system. With the Scuf, you get to choose between an adaptive trigger system OR the mouse click trigger system - you can't have both. The Hex controller let's you switch between both easily, so you don't have to lose adaptive triggers if you want mouse click.
@@Octorious oh the ps5 one doesn’t switch that’s crazy I got the xbox scuf and I can switch thru both types of triggers. Does the hex gaming controller come in Xbox version?
@Tiller2G Let me further clarify, the Xbox controller doesn't have it either. The PS5 controller has a special type of trigger on every controller, labelled as "Adaptive triggers". It enables developers to be able to add physical resistance to the trigger system to simulate different feelings, or even introduce completely new gameplay mechanics. They are great for this and immersion when used well - the Xbox controller does not have this. The Scuf allows you to switch between digital triggers, and regular triggers like you have on an Xbox controller. So you fully lose the adaptive trigger system in the controller with a scuf. The HEX on the otherhand, allows you to switch between digital triggers, and the PS5's proper adaptive triggers so you get the choice between both systems without missing out on anything in any games. Parts of Astro's Playroom are unplayable with regular triggers pretty much for example, and it's great to have them for feeling the tension in the web in Spider-Man etc. And yes, they do Xbox controllers as well, but not specifically the Phantom model. 😊
Outstanding review, congrats! I currently own a DualSense Edge and have bought countless stick modules in recent months that started to drift within 1.5 months. I bought a Nacon Revolution 5 Pro just yesterday with Hall Effect sensors but had a really bad experience: the sticks drift quite a lot right out of the box, and these Hall sensors are nowhere near as precise as standard sticks to me. Has anyone tested the HEX Hall Effect controller? How does it compare with standard sticks regarding precision and feedback? Looks like not a single creator received the Hall Effect version... Little corcening tbh, but I'm quite tempted to get one asap.
according to the kickstarter, phantoms with HE sticks will ship two weeks later than the regular versions, the latter of which will be going out end of aug 2024. it was also only recently that HE became a pre-order option for this controller, probably after all of these review units were sent to content creators. it's probably best to wait a month or so for now if you want a verdict on the HE variation.
Thank you so much, I'm glad you thought so! I'm really sorry to hear about your drift experience with the edge, that sucks. I haven't got my hands on the hall effect version of the Phantom unfortunately as they were still perfecting the tech when they sent me my review unit in June (yes I did say June; they wanted to ensure I'd used it thoroughly before reviewing haha which I love). Dont think they bad any hall effect controllers ready until late July, early August. HOWEVER, from speaking with Hex and knowing about the tech in general, the precision and feedback should feel excellent, and even if you don't think so from the off, then they include all the tools needed to calibrate them to get them feeling PERFECT. I'm looking forward to hopefully getting to try it. I know Hex wouldn't ship it if it didn't feel perfect too. Hope my opinion helps aha and thanks again for watching 😊
@expcake Yeah, unfortunately Hex were hard at work on the calibration kit/tool for the hall effect controller and didn't get it perfected until quite a bit after my review. It's great to see that they have now though and deem it ready for market, I can't wait to try it 😊
@@mjesticbeats7097 Fair enough! I still use my edge for some games, but for double the back buttons, fully digital triggers without also losing adaptive triggers & the fsct that it won't ever get drift so I won't have to buy new sticks or controller, make it worth the little extra to me. Thanks for watching 😊
Yeaaah it ain't cheap but no well-made pro controller is unfortunately :( Discount codes can help as well :) Tbh, I personally also see it as having that extra value knowing that drift won't be a problem ever, so in a few years, it won't be worthless and will still be good as new. 100% still get pro controllers like this are pricy though! Regardless, hope you enjoyed the review and thanks for watching. 😊💙
What funny is the way you think you hold the controller and the way you a actually look when you use it are to different things, test it out hold the controller how you think then play the game and look down it’s completely different
I get it can add up to quite a bit with all the options but discount codes can help as well :) Tbh, I personally also see it as having that extra value knowing that drift won't be a problem ever, so in a few years, it won't be worthless and will still be good as new. 100% still get pro controllers like this are pricy though! Regardless, hope you enjoyed the review and thanks for watching. 😊💙
Why does no reviewer of this controller hold it up to the camera and show me wether I can cover all 4 buttons simultaneously with 4 fingers like I can on the elite series 2 or not ?
@@randomgamer19170 Please watch the full video 😅 I show this thoroughly exactly as you have described and speak about how well placed they are for this reason
Thanks for show this, I’ve looked through so many reviews on TH-cam in the last 24hrs on this controller that I’m scanning through videos and missing stuff. The bottom buttons appear to me to be a bit high and you look like you have to hike your holding position up higher than normal to cover all 4 especially the bottom 2 . I’m so close to pulling the trigger on the kickstarter before it ends today so I can get one but the only thing holding me up is whether the back buttons will be comfy or not 🥵
@randomgamer19170 No problem! I always try to make a review whilst thinking about being the viewer which helps make sure I cover all the things I'd personally find important. As I said here, I do truly think they are perfectly placed, at least for me. I don't feel as though my fingers are in different positions to normal, though because of that, when you first use the controller I did click them accidentally quite a lot because they are where I'm used to sort of holding down. After an hour or so that went away though which is why I didn't think it was worth mentioning in the video itself and cut it whilst editing. If they look like my fingers are in a slightly different position, it may be because the controller itself isn't in the exact same part of the frame perhaps 🤔 They do feel very very similar What I can say for 100% certainty, is out of all 4-button pro controllers for PS5, this is easily the most comfortable configuration and it's not even a competition.
@randomgamer19170 I have! I'd say they take the number 2 spot to me and I do prefer the paddles over mouse-click buttons for back buttons , but fully regarding placement, they are higher than where my fingers naturally rest, not by much, but they are. I've then tried all other HEX controllers, all extremerate attachments, both edge configurations, the scuf, AIM's controller and I believe that to be all the ones I've currently used for PS5. It's different for everyone of course though as grip, finger length and general hand size are all variables that'll change between people. 😊 So whilst I find the Phantom to have slightly better placement, you might not. Though I should say in that last reply, I was only considering stock pro controllers and not attachments. That one is definitely good competition for the back buttons tbf.
@n64slayer whaaaa how? I have to disagree with you there! Do you just not like the thumbstick arrangement? I'm curious as to your actual reasoning Literally everything else about this is significantly ahead of any regular switch or Xbox controller, even ignoring personal preferences 😅
@@Octorious I mean it is trash but that's not the reason, third party manufacturers just make better controllers for dirt cheap something playstion controllers will never have
@n64slayer The only ones of these I've ever had experience with are ones from places like AliExpress which have always arrived with very poor build quality, many completely lacking back paddles. Not to mention lack of haptics, adaptive triggers etc. The ONLY thing I've ever actually found decent with one of them, which was still nothing like they claimed, was a better polling rate and thus latency. If you want cheap playstation controllers, you can get extremerate's mod kits which are easy, and for less than $40 you could get back paddles, and clicky buttons, you just have to do it yourself which is quite simple for the most part.
What's your favourite feature the Phantom has? 🤔 Let me know! 👇
Mine has to be the fact that it has both digital AND adaptive triggers. 🔥
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are they true mouse click triggers like the skuf ? or do they just have less travel like the play station controller. if they have real mouse click then this is a game changer!!!
They definitely are true mouse click triggers yes, it isn't just that they are 1.5mm. I'd say the Scuf Reflex's triggers maybe feel very very very slightly shorter so maybe like 1.25mm, but they are both mouse click absolutely.
Finally some Hall effect sticks!!! Count me in 👍🏼
Definitely an awesome thing to have on a pro controller! 🔥 Thanks for watching 😊
You had me at drift invincibility
@001sander2 yeah it's so good because of this 💙 Thanks for watching 😊
No drift = take my money
@@sneakypeteog9968 And you'll never have to give them money again because it'll actually last! :D
Being able to keep all 4 fingers on the back buttons at the same time sold me immediately!
@@mitchellgarcia4061 It's honestly such perfect placement and such a perfect design because of that, I'm glad you like it! Thanks for watching 😊
I just came here from your Star Wars Outlaws video and I'm so jealous and depressed. I was thinking the whole time watching your video and was about to comment what kind of controller is that till I got to the end. I can't believe I just recently got the Edge. I had no idea about this but I wish I did sooner. Now that you have this controller it probably doesn't matter but I originally thought you were crazy for using your Edge without a case. I like the feel to it but with how bad the grips are and the issues that's happened it's not worth the risk.
I love the color option, I really don't mind the grey and also wouldn't mind the white except for the same Edge issues, I'm almost wondering if they should have just went with that blue maybe. Man you're lucky, I hope I can eventually get this controller. Wish I could sell or exchange my Edge for it. I still have mine brand new in the box as it's my second one and I'm waiting on a silicone case.
Do you know if this company has a four pay option or a flex payments?
You know, I would expect that for $200, the Dpad wouldn't be one piece, but instead 4 independent buttons. The fact no one is touching this feature across all the consoles is just wild to me 😂
I did mention in this that if there was one main thing I could add, it would be individual clicky face buttons. They've acknowledged this feedback and hopefully it's in the future 😊
I use to be a hex fan. Tried aim as well. Dual sense edge is by far my top pick. And I play on pc. This controller looks nice but 279?!?!? That’s kinda wild.
Great video bro, what a controller boys all in on this one
Thank you! 😊 And yeah I'm definitely still impressed by it :)
I’m sold in the clear version, reminds me of the ps2 and n64
@Greyman2046 yeah I do love the look of it! Transparent tech needs to make a proper comeback.
Thanks for watching 😊
I prefer no rubber on the grips if it’s a long term controller with hall sensors
A really intriguing controller, you got me sold 😍
@@Cinogard Glad you like the look of it! I really am impressed by it. Thanks for watching! 😊
great review man, the hall effect sticks look great, i play right hand claw so is there a version with out back buttons? it’s ok if they don’t because i could just not set them up.
The way it looks dont bother me its just a tool
I think all the colour options look great tbh, just not fully sold on the grey used for the grip on the white, that's all. 😊 Thanks for watching!
Great review! That controller looks amazing
Thanks so much, and yeah I love it! 😊
I went on the website, how do i know which option has the magnet thumbsticks, what should i be looking for.
Hey so sorry for the slow response, this had been held for review for some reason. 😅 I believe you add the hall effect thumbsticks on as an extra add-on AFTER reserving any of the options. Thanks for watching 😊
7:43 The Scuf Envision pro does has the same feature, but this one has much better back button layout, can't wait to get one
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@NEKOMAI-MIA It almost does! But it isn't quite the same as it's switching between mouse click and just a full range trigger pull right? Or am I wrong on this, I'm not sure. I don't have the envision pro so am going off my previous research.
The HEX PHANTOM switches between mouse click and a full range ADAPTIVE trigger system, not just standard. It's that which I particularly appreciate so I still get the trigger resistantce effects in racing games, Spider-Man etc.
And thanks for watching! :) Glad you like the look of it!
@@Octorious I have one and I can confirm it’s switching exactly between mouse switch and analog switches :)
And I totally agree that this is so far my favorite feature that Envision pro has, it’s just a pure joy to see more controller like this!
@NEKOMAI-MIA Are you sure they are adaptive triggers it switches to? So the ones that have a full resistance effect and motor in them? Not just full range analogue switches, there's a difference. From what I can tell online, they aren't adaptive triggers in the envision but just mouse click that can switch so standard.
But yes fully agree, it's awesome to have that option there, even if not adaptive. Hate having to choose!
@@Octorious The Envision Pro doesn’t have the haptic triggers. Just goes from super short mouse clicks to regular triggers.
@@Motornationz I thought this was the case! I'm certain the Phantom is the only controller that actually does this.
Thank you for watching and confirming 😊
Question what's the life span of a single charge on this thing? I didn't hear you mention anything about it and I know the one on the dual edge is trash.
@Spike9819 I should have definitely touched on this if I didn't, oops! 😅
I believe it uses the same battery as a regular dualsense, and from my experience, it lasts about the same amount of time on 1 charge as a regular PS5 controller would. Absolute worse case for me is it's maybe about 30 minutes less due to the extra features and buttons the regular controller has.
However, if you go for the hall effect joysticks, battery life might take about an additional 30 minute hit due to how they work. That's more an educated guess if anything though as I have the regular sticks on mine.
Regardless, it lasts a good bit longer than the Edge. The issue with the edge is that it's not only got the additional hardware, but to fit it in, they physically shrunk the battery and thus it has a lower capacity. Here, it should still be using the normal dualsense battery. 👍
Thanks for watching 😊
I normally just upgrade all my dual sense batteries with an Amazon 3000 or 4000 mAh. Makes a world of a difference
😂😂😂 how long are you gaming for, do you not have a life. The dual battery is fine and if I ever don't put it on charged I can easy plug in.
Will it be compatible with steam just like the dualsense edge so when connected to STEAM im able to customize ALL THE BUTTONS INCLUDING THE REAR peddles. Can it do that????
The Dualsense Edge remapping is software-side and then saved to the controller and thus needs support from steam for that. The Phantom, as shown in the video, has you use the controller buttons itself to bind the mappings and profiles, so you don't even need any other device to customise the mappings; they'll remain and work on everything from Steam to mobile phones :) Thanks for watching!
Is there kontrol freek compatability? Thats a big need for me as someone whos used them for years
Hey! Thanks for watching 😊
I unfortunately don't have any Kontrolfreeks to be able to confirm directly, but I don't see why they wouldn't still fit. However, I'll ask Hex this directly and will come back to you soon if they have a better answer. 😊
@@Octorious bro still needs an answer if you managed to get one
@Omeganuts24 Ah thanks so much for the reminder been super busy recently 😅
They should fit, but don't think it has been tested extensively.
Does it have haptic functions like the dualsense?
Yes of course 😊 And they feel great! :D
I’ve checked it out, and from everything I’ve read, it looks like the best alternative to the PS5 DualSense controller. Pretty promising, right?
For sure! The early version i was sent has certainly surpassed my expectations and as I said, it's my go-to controller now and am confident most others will feel the same. Thanks for watching!
Bro forgot the scuf exists when he was talkin about the mouse click triggers lol
@Tiller2G I have the scuf too and the Scuf does not have the same trigger system. With the Scuf, you get to choose between an adaptive trigger system OR the mouse click trigger system - you can't have both. The Hex controller let's you switch between both easily, so you don't have to lose adaptive triggers if you want mouse click.
@@Octorious oh the ps5 one doesn’t switch that’s crazy I got the xbox scuf and I can switch thru both types of triggers. Does the hex gaming controller come in Xbox version?
@Tiller2G Let me further clarify, the Xbox controller doesn't have it either.
The PS5 controller has a special type of trigger on every controller, labelled as "Adaptive triggers". It enables developers to be able to add physical resistance to the trigger system to simulate different feelings, or even introduce completely new gameplay mechanics. They are great for this and immersion when used well - the Xbox controller does not have this.
The Scuf allows you to switch between digital triggers, and regular triggers like you have on an Xbox controller. So you fully lose the adaptive trigger system in the controller with a scuf.
The HEX on the otherhand, allows you to switch between digital triggers, and the PS5's proper adaptive triggers so you get the choice between both systems without missing out on anything in any games. Parts of Astro's Playroom are unplayable with regular triggers pretty much for example, and it's great to have them for feeling the tension in the web in Spider-Man etc.
And yes, they do Xbox controllers as well, but not specifically the Phantom model. 😊
@@Octorious oh I see thanks for the clarification man. I’m gunna have to check out the Xbox controllers from hex
Are the face buttons mouse click too ?
No stick drift??
Can you program the sticks to back buttons L3 R3
Looks like a really good controller awesome video
Thank you! Glad you like it :D
Outstanding review, congrats! I currently own a DualSense Edge and have bought countless stick modules in recent months that started to drift within 1.5 months.
I bought a Nacon Revolution 5 Pro just yesterday with Hall Effect sensors but had a really bad experience: the sticks drift quite a lot right out of the box, and these Hall sensors are nowhere near as precise as standard sticks to me.
Has anyone tested the HEX Hall Effect controller? How does it compare with standard sticks regarding precision and feedback? Looks like not a single creator received the Hall Effect version... Little corcening tbh, but I'm quite tempted to get one asap.
@@giovannivincenti8400 can’t even find any modules near me smh 🤦🏾♂️
according to the kickstarter, phantoms with HE sticks will ship two weeks later than the regular versions, the latter of which will be going out end of aug 2024. it was also only recently that HE became a pre-order option for this controller, probably after all of these review units were sent to content creators. it's probably best to wait a month or so for now if you want a verdict on the HE variation.
Thank you so much, I'm glad you thought so! I'm really sorry to hear about your drift experience with the edge, that sucks.
I haven't got my hands on the hall effect version of the Phantom unfortunately as they were still perfecting the tech when they sent me my review unit in June (yes I did say June; they wanted to ensure I'd used it thoroughly before reviewing haha which I love). Dont think they bad any hall effect controllers ready until late July, early August. HOWEVER, from speaking with Hex and knowing about the tech in general, the precision and feedback should feel excellent, and even if you don't think so from the off, then they include all the tools needed to calibrate them to get them feeling PERFECT. I'm looking forward to hopefully getting to try it. I know Hex wouldn't ship it if it didn't feel perfect too.
Hope my opinion helps aha and thanks again for watching 😊
@expcake Yeah, unfortunately Hex were hard at work on the calibration kit/tool for the hall effect controller and didn't get it perfected until quite a bit after my review. It's great to see that they have now though and deem it ready for market, I can't wait to try it 😊
Great price????? Best value???? Its 229$ man, the edge is cheaper than that and its an original, I'll pass
@@mjesticbeats7097 Fair enough! I still use my edge for some games, but for double the back buttons, fully digital triggers without also losing adaptive triggers & the fsct that it won't ever get drift so I won't have to buy new sticks or controller, make it worth the little extra to me.
Thanks for watching 😊
i think i wil get HEXGAMING PHANTOM xcontroller
Will this be compatible with pc ?
@@RyanSmith-do7zr Yes! It works super well with PC 😊
WAAAYYY TOO EXPENSIVE!!
Yeaaah it ain't cheap but no well-made pro controller is unfortunately :( Discount codes can help as well :) Tbh, I personally also see it as having that extra value knowing that drift won't be a problem ever, so in a few years, it won't be worthless and will still be good as new.
100% still get pro controllers like this are pricy though! Regardless, hope you enjoyed the review and thanks for watching. 😊💙
What funny is the way you think you hold the controller and the way you a actually look when you use it are to different things, test it out hold the controller how you think then play the game and look down it’s completely different
For that much I rather get the official pro controller not a cheap bootleg wannabe
At $250. No way. Not even if it makes me a hot pocket.
I get it can add up to quite a bit with all the options but discount codes can help as well :) Tbh, I personally also see it as having that extra value knowing that drift won't be a problem ever, so in a few years, it won't be worthless and will still be good as new.
100% still get pro controllers like this are pricy though! Regardless, hope you enjoyed the review and thanks for watching. 😊💙
Nha, this shit cost way too much
259$ kek
Why does no reviewer of this controller hold it up to the camera and show me wether I can cover all 4 buttons simultaneously with 4 fingers like I can on the elite series 2 or not ?
@@randomgamer19170 Please watch the full video 😅 I show this thoroughly exactly as you have described and speak about how well placed they are for this reason
Thanks for show this, I’ve looked through so many reviews on TH-cam in the last 24hrs on this controller that I’m scanning through videos and missing stuff.
The bottom buttons appear to me to be a bit high and you look like you have to hike your holding position up higher than normal to cover all 4 especially the bottom 2 .
I’m so close to pulling the trigger on the kickstarter before it ends today so I can get one but the only thing holding me up is whether the back buttons will be comfy or not 🥵
@randomgamer19170 No problem! I always try to make a review whilst thinking about being the viewer which helps make sure I cover all the things I'd personally find important.
As I said here, I do truly think they are perfectly placed, at least for me. I don't feel as though my fingers are in different positions to normal, though because of that, when you first use the controller I did click them accidentally quite a lot because they are where I'm used to sort of holding down. After an hour or so that went away though which is why I didn't think it was worth mentioning in the video itself and cut it whilst editing. If they look like my fingers are in a slightly different position, it may be because the controller itself isn't in the exact same part of the frame perhaps 🤔 They do feel very very similar
What I can say for 100% certainty, is out of all 4-button pro controllers for PS5, this is easily the most comfortable configuration and it's not even a competition.
I doubt you’ve tried the Beloader Besavior 4 back button dualsense then
@randomgamer19170 I have! I'd say they take the number 2 spot to me and I do prefer the paddles over mouse-click buttons for back buttons , but fully regarding placement, they are higher than where my fingers naturally rest, not by much, but they are.
I've then tried all other HEX controllers, all extremerate attachments, both edge configurations, the scuf, AIM's controller and I believe that to be all the ones I've currently used for PS5.
It's different for everyone of course though as grip, finger length and general hand size are all variables that'll change between people. 😊 So whilst I find the Phantom to have slightly better placement, you might not.
Though I should say in that last reply, I was only considering stock pro controllers and not attachments. That one is definitely good competition for the back buttons tbf.
Israel controller? skip
Yet another ps5 controller tha pales in comparison to any $40 switch/xbox controller 💀
@n64slayer whaaaa how? I have to disagree with you there! Do you just not like the thumbstick arrangement? I'm curious as to your actual reasoning
Literally everything else about this is significantly ahead of any regular switch or Xbox controller, even ignoring personal preferences 😅
@@Octorious I mean it is trash but that's not the reason, third party manufacturers just make better controllers for dirt cheap something playstion controllers will never have
@n64slayer The only ones of these I've ever had experience with are ones from places like AliExpress which have always arrived with very poor build quality, many completely lacking back paddles. Not to mention lack of haptics, adaptive triggers etc.
The ONLY thing I've ever actually found decent with one of them, which was still nothing like they claimed, was a better polling rate and thus latency.
If you want cheap playstation controllers, you can get extremerate's mod kits which are easy, and for less than $40 you could get back paddles, and clicky buttons, you just have to do it yourself which is quite simple for the most part.
@Octorious yeah, that's what I mean. There aren't any good 3rd party ps5 controllers
@@n64slayer cap