Scott please ignore all the haters. You give us all the most consistent PROG information and opinions and why you feel that way . RESPECT and thank you for what you do . BEST on TH-cam. Peace brother ✌️👍🔥🔥
@@toddhill7483 Hey Todd :) Yeah I've heard a lot of people say it took them along time to get into the album.. I liked it the first time I heard it. Very less is more sort of an album.. I'm not a massive King Crimson fan but like a fair bit of there stuff. Hope you are well Todd. :)
I watched a couple of your videos yesterday for the first time, and holy cow was I blown away! You have so much energy and enthusiasm in each of your videos, I love it. Keep up the good work!
Great list. I know it is because I love half of these albums and don’t care for the other half. (I’ll NEVER understand why anyone doesn’t like A Passion Play!). Ignore the haters Scott. We love ya!
From the musical point of view, I can't help but see it as an improvement over TAAB in every way. The saddest thing is, were the album not so divisive, I'm sure they could've topped it with their next offering as well, but they completely changed direction instead.
I don't think you're annoying. I like the way you do videos. It's entertaining and informative, and your enthusiasm makes me want to listen to prog music even more.
Me encanta tu lista y tus opiniones sobre estos discos, adoro el Tales From Topografic Oceans, el Passion Play es un album trovadoresco e incluso renacentista como pocos, en fin amigo, desde Tenerife te declaro mi apoyo pues he aprendido mucho con tus vídeos, saludos y un abrazo
"The Final Cut" is the only Pink Floyd album I still like and listen to occasionally. I've reached a burnt-out place with Floyd where I just overdosed on the hype and overplaying of them by friends & radio. But "Final Cut" never go that treatment, so it's one I never grew tired of.
@@TheProgCorner I'm with you Scot; love APP; in my top 5 Tull albums and surprisingly enough, Acquiring The Taste was the first GG album I bought in the '70s and I think it is pretty darn average, but it didn't put me off buying their next album, Three Friends and from then on I was converted. Really, apart from (obviously) the horrible "Giant For A Day", I believe that GG were *the* No. 1 prog band of the '70s.
"Stationary Traveller" is great! Thanks for the acknowledgement and the mention ❤ My personal most divisive album has to "Rock Bottom"... **flees the comment section**
Great ranking! I like Yes' Drama, Into the lens is one of my favourite Yes songs. And I love Islands, it's punk (because in the beginning Boz Burrell wasn't a bass player) and it's fusion (the horn section in Formentera Lady and The sailor's tale sounds so Andean to me, love it!). So minimalist, fantastic! And The final cut! I love it too. I was a kid in the days of Malvinas/Falklands war, six years old, and i think that album captured all the zeitgest of that time. Final cut was the last Pink Floyd to me. I love your channel too! English is not my native language, as you should have note it, but your talk is so clear and fun that i don't need any subtitles. Keep talking! 😊❤
You are absolutely right about The Final Cut. My favorite Pink Floyd album. I do like Momentary Lapse and Division Bell too. But not as much as Wish You Were Here and Dark Side. The rest of Floyd albums are ok with some gems on most of them.
A Passion Play is an excellent album. I don't care what anybody else says. Maybe it would have been even better if it didn't have "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" on it. I agree The Final Cut would have worked better as a Roger Waters solo album
Well you seem like cool person to me! Your energy is inspiring and our musical tastes are very similar! Your videos really lift me up! Keep on rockin’ and not carin’ ‘bout the haters! BTW, my copy of Mirror to the Sky arrived. I’ve listened once and I thought it was outstanding. Of course no one can replace the vocal texture of Jon and Chris but the current lineup is doing well with what they have imho!
Thanks Scot for adopting this idea. You could have done a 2 hour slot on this topic easily. Perhaps we can have a part 2? You are in danger of becoming divisive by liking both Topographical Oceans and The Final Cut. Maybe it's a lack of beer or wine or something. However thanks for being honest, informative and real. All hail the ale...and God save the King!
Oh wow!!! The channel is still fairly new (17 months) and still very small but it’s growing steadily!!! I try to respond to everyone who takes the time to comment. That’s the benefit of talking about Prog - no chance the channel will ever get so big I can’t interact with my Prog friends around the world. Welcome to The Prog Corner!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍
@@TheProgCorner I think you may be surprised about how many people around the world who still love REAL music!! Plus I'm constantly finding new "prog" bands just here on TH-cam. I personally don't listen to that many new bands, but I'm still glad that it's happening!! I would HATE to see us just letting all of the good rock, prog & metal bands "DIE" without some newer bands continuing their legacy and keeping it alive for all of the younger people of today & the future, so they are not forced to listen to the CRAP that passes for music on the cringe radio stations, supermarkets, etc...
Pantagruel's Nativity is such a great album opener! The rest of ATT is of course very atypical GG which is why many might discount it; but it's very progressive and creative.
You dastardly host: you made me go and listen to Drama by Yes!!! And you know what? I LOVE it. (To be fair, I'm not an out-and-out Yes fan, so i don't have Anderson-Wakeman blinkers.)
I hold Trevor Horn in high esteem. Not only was "Video Killed the Radio Stars" one of the greatest ever pop songs and Relax" the iconic song of its era, but Trevor was also the brains behind The Art of Noise, pure instrumental experimental music (aka prog). The guy had nothing left to prove. The only problem was he didn't really look the part; but there again, did Robert Fripp?
Very cool list! I would add a classic Magma album on the most divisive list (many of my prog friends are split on this band about 50/50) because of the Koybian language.
If I were to pick a Genesis album that was divisive it would be Duke. This is the point for me that Genesis started the drift away from their roots. Even and Then There Were Three didn't drift from their roots that much. It lost the mighty Hackett...which was a huge blow. If you remember, Drama, as well as Tormato are my favorite Yes albums. Yeah, I know, I'm a Yes heretic. I can see why Drama would be the most divisive though. I am a huge Steven Wilson fan, but I hate The Future Bites, just as I am a huge Dream Theater fan, but I hate The Astonishing. On a side note, screw those idiots that don't like or appreciate you! You be you! Your enthusiasm is infectious, and you're just a likeable guy. I don't always agree with your opinions, but I don't always agree with a lot of people's opinions. We are brothers and fellow travelers in prog...the music we love. The way you always answer comments is special on TH-cam too!
Duke is exactly spot on!!! (But I still went with W&W…) I’m not really all that bothered by the occasional detractor - it only means that I must be doing something right!!! And yeah, if I can’t take time to respond to comments why would I ever expect someone to spend time watching my videos??? There should be some reciprocity, eh?
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Wind & Wuthering are two of my favorite Genesis albums. But there was a time early on when Abacab was my favorite.....
Islands is my second favourite King Crimson album, it's absolutley perfect, and though it's a little hard to understand, I can't tell why so many people don't like it.
@@TheProgCorner I think “Red” is their magnum opus, but if I had to take only one album to the desert island it would be “Larks’ Tongues…” Not sure that makes sense to anyone but me!
Good choice to pick “Islands” by KC. It’s often forgotten between the first couple of albums with the earliest line-up and then the “Lark’s Tongues” era. The other divisive KC album I’d consider would be “Beat”. Thought there may have been space for “Pictures at an Exhibition 9:47 ” by ELP? I love it, and those who also love it REALLY love it. But there are those who place it way down the pecking order of ELP - behind their eponymous debut, Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus. I’d also have “Five Bridges” by The Nice in there. Again, I love it - but I know so many who don’t. Great vid.
Yeah, Beat was VERY divisive inside KC as well with Belew and Bruford convinced it was better than Discipline but Fripp and Levin knew better. They almost broke up during the recording sessions…
@@TheProgCorner I think Bruford said it was the worst recording session he’s ever been through - and he’s been through some pretty intense ones! He said “Fragile” and “Close to the Edge” were accurate descriptions of Yes during the time of recording, after all!
Well made list! The Final Cut as the most divisive album in prog (barring TFTO) is absolutely fair. I'm not personally a big fan of it but it's got at least a few good moments. The Gilmour albums might be even more divisive but that falls more into a "divisive era" camp. (Though I do tend to defend those.) As for others... You mentioned The Astonishing in passing as not making your list, but it is a good answer. Personally I like it okay by looking at it as basically trying to be a stage musical in vaguely prog metal form, but it is definitely rather low by DT standards. Haken'a Virus might count in a sort of weird delayed sense of the sound change one - even the people who were cool with the new style on Vector seem to have found the album as a whole underwhelming, so the followup fleshing that out and improving on that era of the band was received well by them but not so much by those who just didn't want that sound to begin with. (I like those albums personally but I get why some don't.) Coheed and Cambria's Year of the Black Rainbow may also count, since it's a very notable new sound that didn't stick around, so it really gets a lot of heat but also some who really like what it was doing. And if the comments on the music videos made for it are anything to go by, the latest Pain of Salvation album, Panther, was a bit hard for some people to take, but I just can't get enough of it. But hey, that's the beauty of music, different people can like different things and that's pretty rad at the end of the day!
Only just come across this episode :) Wind & Wuthering is brilliant, but to be honest, most 'classic' Genesis fans I know love it, so I was surprised it was here... the Lamb on the other hand, now THAT is divisive! Islands is SUPERB and one of my favourite KC albums. #1 was a shoo-in :) I personally love it and it's far better than any Floyd - band or solo - that came after it.
Surprised that some people don't like Wind and Wuthering? I usually hear "And Then There Were Three" as the cutoff point for some people/the loss of Hackett. I love both albums! Only problem with W and W is that one song that I don't think should be there--"Your Own Special Way" but everything else is top-notch. (lots of people seem good with that song too, I just don't think it fits) I don't dislike anything on And Then There Were Three (I love all of it, same as W and W--well mostly), but it's a weaker album overall. Anyway, that's the way I see it. I actually like The Final Cut too, but don't spin it too often. (I actually don't own it right now except on cassette, so ya) Love the channel, Scot! Keep 'em coming! PS, I actually think Abacab is fantastic too, but side two is weaker after a strong start with Dodo/Lurker it sort of dips (and I don't even mind Whodunnit, just obviously not that great and the ones after it are "ok" but not amazing to me.
I think I placed W&W there because I had a few friends back then that loved Genesis but disowned them after ATOTT. Their loss!!! But maybe ATTWT or Duke would have been better suited for the brief at hand…
@@TheProgCorner True, Duke is often a cut-off point for some people too. There's no real cutoff for me at all, but then again the first one I heard in its entirety was Genesis/1983. We Can't Dance was kind of a weak one though. (still with some great tunes too) But I liked Calling All Stations, actually! ;) But I guess my faves are the seven from Trespass to Wind (but I love And Then There Were Three too)
Hi Scott i pretty much enjoyed all those albums you mentioned, i love Tales from Topographic oceans, a Passion Play, the Lamb and Camels Stationary Traveller is a great record ( i love early 80's music anyway) the only prog album i really can't stand (and ive really really tried) is ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, i just could never get into it. Great list
@TheProgCorner believe me I've tried, with Brain Salad surgery, I had no such Issues with A Passion Play or Tales from Topographic oceans. Maybe I've just got weird ears 😅
Hey! I’m just a dude talking about Prog!!! People get insensitive but I have a thick skin - which I think is a prerequisite for hosting a TH-cam channel…
Great list! I’m pretty sure that about half of these picks I really love and but had to warm up to. Drama is fantastic, W&W is fantastic, and Asia is super fun. One album that might make my own list would be Power Windows. Lots of Rush fans feel that this one went too far into the synths but the songwriting is still killer and it wasn’t until Hold Your Fire that they really started to lose steam in terms of phenomenal albums in my opinion. I’m right with you on The Future Bites, it’s well produced and some songs are quite good, but it’s hard to get around the spiteful attitude it has toward the consumer. I feel like it is exactly what Steven was going for though so a complete conceptual success.
Power Windows almost lost me - the synths were too harsh & biting. Hold Your Fire brought me back, top notch songwriting (except Tai Shan), the synth sounds were first rate and Alex's solos were out of this world - I think Mission is collossally underrated.
Rush is my favorite band and I completely agree with your assessment.Seeing that the first time I saw them was on the Grace tour, and as a seventeen year old Rocker Praying for "The old stuff ", I could say That album might be their most devisive. For decades now I have absolutely loved the album!!
I think my favorite on that list is Wind and Wuthering, but I think I like Trick of the Tail a little more. I am critical of TFTO but if someone really likes it, I kind of shrug and say "whatever". I mean it's Yes, so that's pretty good. If they played kazoos for a whole album it would be pretty good too. I can see why people don't like Wind and Wuthering, but it has some really tasty pieces like 'Blood on the Rooftops', and such nice piano work. Acquiring the taste was my first GG album. I like the older stuff because it's more chill. I think I like Three Friends more. Asia was great, but the problem is obvious. They veered off the hard core prog sound. I really love Drama, it's still standing the test of time. Islands is the type of record you can show to like a Jazz fan. It's very tasteful but they were too indulgent at times. Passion Play is one of my fav Tull albums. It's more tighter prog, and more consistently attention-getting. I don't like the Wall all that much, so Final Cut doesn't have a chance with me.
And Then There Were Three! When Hackett left Genesis lost its soul and went for the money. The most challenging bands would be a great topic. Prog itself is too challenging for many! Love A Passion Play! Tough luck if someone thinks you are annoying. That's their loss and some people find prog annoying 🙃
Heh. Abacab just might be my favorite Genesis album. I love the first Asia album and Drama is phenomenal. Then again, I hit my teens in the early 80s so these were my soundtrack for my high school years.
I love Calling All Stations and i know i am somewhat alone on that end, because i see the intense hatred for it Everywhere. No really everywhere. I love it, it is a favorite of mine. Dead serious
Asia's first album is just straight ahead AOR, but they got proggier during the John Payne era. Arena and Aura are both phenomenal, and I love Silent Nation too.
Great choices for divisive albums. For most of these on your list I come down on the side of Brilliant. Love Wind and Wuthering, Drama, A Passion Play, and Acquiring the Taste. I Like Asia, Traveller, Islands. The only ones here I really dislike are Future Bites (just not something I want to listen to) and The Final Cut, which is near the very bottom of PF albums (and as you said, really a RW solo album).
GreatvTopiv!! Abd nice selections! I do not get it why you did not include tales of... in the list? Too obvious? 😮 anyway thank you for turning me from a hater to a fan of this album!!
in my opinion,the only one I feel is divisive is The Final Cut Yes,90210, Genesis,Duke ,Crimson,Discipline , Tull,Under Wraps for sure.....in my opinion
Funny I like all of these. I had a problem with Drama when it first came out; loyalty to Jon. Once I got past that, I found its a really good album that stands on its own. May not be prog, but one album I always thought was pretty devisive was Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Music.
Fantastic show, some great albums here, actually my favorite JT album is A passion play, I just adore it. I must say I hate that Genesis, Asia and Steven Wilson album, also don't like The final cut, for me the worst PF album. Islands and Drama are fantastic. Cheers my friend and thanks for the best channel on TH-cam. Respect and love from Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Scot, you remind of Frank Zappa in a way. Frank Zappa said his music was for the people who like him and not for those that don't. Your channel is for the people that like you (such as myself). If you don't like it then there's all those other channels. Naysayers be damned. Keep doing what you do and prog on!
thank you for another reminder why I don't bother with Prog(Snob)Archives. I love Drama and A Passion Play, but like I mentioned on twitter, more or less every album I enjoy is to some degree divisive. it's like that old quote "you laugh at me because my taste is different, and I laugh at you because your taste is all the same"
Annoying? Wont hear of it. Energetic, rather. Just the sound of "Greetings, salutations, respect and love" makes a good start to my day, so keep it very much up. Some good picks yet again. I don't care for Asia, I think "Drama" is kind of uneven, "The Final Cut" never did much for me, "Islands" had to grow on me, "Lizard" I love from start to end, "Acquiring The Taste" and "Wind and Wuthering" are both great though not their best, "Passion Play" is my favourite Tull album on certain days. Some days I wonder why so many puts down "The Wall" and at times I wonder if I am a bit of a weirdo for loving "Ummagumma".
@@TheProgCorner It's gooood to be a weirdo some times! Off topic though - tonight I'm going to the great Mr. Steve Hackett's gig in Oslo. And since we're talking - you being partly of Norwegian inheritance might know what day it is tomorrow. Hooraayy for us! 🥰
my thoughts- camel- haven't listened (perhaps once); genesis- great, almost at the same level with foxtrot and sebtp; gg- very good; cpt beefheart- not my type; asia- commercial, but fine commercial; yes- drama: love it; steven wilson- haven't listened; king crimson- masterpiece, as the other 6 albums from the initial era; jethro tull- i tried and i tried, but i don't dig it (otherwise, i love all their 70s work... maybe warchild is not that great); final cut- love it, one of my all time favourites
This is interesting . . . Aside from theatre pieces (Opera, Operetta, Oratorios, Passions, Musicals, etc.) Yes' great album "Tales from Topographic Oceans" is the SECOND LONGEST piece ever recorded. At 1:23 it trails Mahler's Third Symphony (1:40 - 1:50) but outlasts Mahler's Second Symphony (1:10 - 1:20). My opinion, though, is that "Tales", for best appreciation, should be listened to one side at a time and perhaps be treated as 4 separate pieces.
Two from Supertramp: (we'll set aside the discussion about whether or not Supertramp is a prog band) Famous Last Words and Brother Where You Bound Famous Last Words divides Supertramp fans because some say it is too poppy(It's Raining Again is exhibit A), yet, there are some great songs on it, and, yes, those great songs are proggy(especially side 2) Brother Where You Bound gets ripped by the " It isn't Supertramp without Roger Hodgson " types(and those who dislike Cannonball), but, a very good/great album, and yes, prog abounds(along with jazz rock, Rick Davies always brings that in)
@@Sammeep02 preach, I'm a Kansas fan first and foremost, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard " it isn't Kansas without Steve Walsh (or Kerry Livgren) " I'd be a millionaire
I had really high expectations for Wind & Wuthering so I was pretty disappointed when I heard it. THAT SAID, One For The Vine and especially Blood On The Rooftops are masterpieces, some of my favorite Genesis songs, the latter possibly one of my all time favorite songs, but if the album didn't have those two I wouldn't like it nearly as much. As for Acquiring The Taste, I never liked it all too much but re-listened to the whole thing and have become completely addicted, it's incredible and has quickly risen to the top of my favorite GG albums, which is saying something!
@@TheProgCorner I recall a late 80's Rolling Stone "Best Albums Ever" list where Trout Mask Replica was in the top trip. That Zappa and Beefheart made music together should have triggered other artists to collaborate outside their usual millieu. Here's some questions for thought this video inspires: What's the best prog band that never was, or failed collaboration? Most famous unfinished prog album? Best prog private pressing?
Hey Scott, it's not related to the content but I want to ask something. Recently, my friend and I decided to give the ELP album "Tarkus" a shot. It was a wonderful album and we had a blast. (So much so that my friend decided to make a pixel art version of the album cover, lol) But now we want to listen to more ELP. We don't know which albums or songs should we listen to so I want to ask you, the Prog Master Scott: Have you got any suggestions to which songs/albums we need to listen?
I was reacting to each album I was aware of and it was funny. With the ones I love it was "this is misunderstood - if more people listended to it..." and the hates were "Oh yeah, that's a pile of poo". The one I don't agree with on this list is "Wind & Wuthering" which is a fairly middling Genesis album, Afterglow's an all-time great, One from the Vine & 11th Earl of Marr are good, Wot Gorilla and Mouses Dream I could live without. I can't imagine it being on anyone's top or bottom 5 Genesis albums regardless of where they sit on Phil vs Peter
I have seen a fair amount of Genesis fans site it as their #1. And I’m with you, it’s really good but I think I had it at #6 on my rankings video. I’ll give W&W this: it’s an album that helped launch the entire Neo Prog sound.
@@TheProgCorner I'm with Widge on the Neo Prog label - I was there, I saw Marillion 4 times starting with the tour they did to support Market Square Heroes, Pallas 3 times (Including the Sentinel tour), Twelfth Night 3 times & IQ once (sadly) and never once during all that time did I hear the term Neo Prog. The first time I saw it was on Wikipedia years later and I had to look up the definition
Great list. Islands took me awhile too. Final cut was disappointing. Passion play I can see why people don’t love it. Scot I’m like you in the sense that I can see why people don’t like stuff I like and like stuff I don’t. It’s ok ✅. Oh another divisive band is Sparks.
What a clever idea. I can't disagree with your choices here. It is so subjective though, isn't it? Personally, I went right off Yes with Tormento. However, the new album is a different matter, and I will give it a good listen, especially after your posts last week. I appreciate all your videos on TH-cam! So thank you Scot.
Jethro Tull’s Passion Play is one of the most divisive albums ever. For me is one of their greatest albums, but critics somehow convinced the band that it was a crap.
K.C. Islands holds A special place in my heart due to the diverisity of the album & the Funky bass lines From Boz on it .At least Fripp even Likes that one Unlike its predessor Lizard that he really hates to the point not ever including any tracks on King Crimson collections..the exception bolero remixe Frame by frame box set..Out of print to my knowledge .shame!
Goodness, there are loads, for many different reasons... Yes: Tales, Drama, 90125 Genesis: And Then There Were Three, Abacab Marillion: Seasons End Rush: Presto Pink Floyd: The Wall, Momentary Lapse of Reason Jethro Tull: Under Wraps
You definitely got some divisive albums on this list, that's for sure. Rush has had some divisive albums. How about Roll The Bones for example? I know a lot of fans hated the fact that Rush had included rapping in the single.
The rap song!!! That alone made me think about including Roll The Bones. Also thought about Power Windows and Caress Of Steel as being somewhat divisive.
Divisive but like them or not they're still better than most of the stuff coming out today. As for that wanker's comment if he's not one of us then he's one of them and nobody wants to be one of them.
The future bites is actually my favorite Steven Wilson album by far But that's probably because i don't care for the rest of his music, both solo and Porcupine tree
Wind and Wuthering they only mistake were "your own special way" and maybe "Wot Gorilla! Inside and Out should be on it instead, then id give it a 10/10
I would say ConstruKction of Light... but most people generally put that lower in their list of King Crimson music, so I guess it isnt that divisive. I actually like ConstruKction.
I'm a big Gentle Giant fan and I agree -- Acquiring the Taste is pretty forgettable. As for Passion Play, it's actually a more "sincere" album that TAAB, it just isn't cohesive. It literally sounds like a bunch of stuff stuck together with no big finale. It just fizzles out. The only thing about the Pink Floyd album that's divisive is that a lot of people don't think it's prog. And thank you for keeping the reviews quick. Too many reviewers like the sound of their own voice a little too much.
@@TheProgCorner Yeah, they were all indigenous to me. Area, Perigeo, RDM etc...I'm from down there. Lots of great stuff I have to thank my dad for discovering...stole hella vinyls from him. Cheers, man.
When I think of divisive my thought was: EVERY SINGLE RABIN ERA YES ALBUM I don't get how anybody can dog poop on ASIA or DRAMA either. Sure, Yes and the Buggles are a crazy combination, but SOMEHOW it works. I wouldn't call Wuthering divisive, I think a better fit for that title would be Invisible Touch. Oh yeah, and Abacab is my #2 genesis album last I checked.
@@TheProgCorner Still don't get why prog-gone-pop is a "sellout" in the minds of unilateral superfans. Isn't the point of being "progressive" and making "progressive" music about challenging the rules and norms of the rock genre? Prog-gone-pop songs are even better than OTHER 80s songs, the kind that the people of my generation who say they "were born in the wrong generation" listen to. Add to that, versatility ensures the right for fans to still enjoy some material if they can't get into other albums....
Scott please ignore all the haters. You give us all the most consistent PROG information and opinions and why you feel that way . RESPECT and thank you for what you do . BEST on TH-cam. Peace brother ✌️👍🔥🔥
That’s a pin-worthy comment right there!!!
@@TheProgCorner Take annoying as a compliment, haha. Annoying all unilateral, closed-minded snobs!
I agree!
I love King Crimson's Islands! Very chilled album! Your spot on with the final cut its a worthy number 1 on this list! Awesome video Scot! :)
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Man, it took a LONG time for Islands to resonate with me. (Decades) but worth the wait!
Definitely!!!
@@toddhill7483 Hey Todd :) Yeah I've heard a lot of people say it took them along time to get into the album.. I liked it the first time I heard it. Very less is more sort of an album.. I'm not a massive King Crimson fan but like a fair bit of there stuff. Hope you are well Todd. :)
I watched a couple of your videos yesterday for the first time, and holy cow was I blown away! You have so much energy and enthusiasm in each of your videos, I love it. Keep up the good work!
I’m so glad you found me!!! I’m here to stay!!! ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Great list. I know it is because I love half of these albums and don’t care for the other half. (I’ll NEVER understand why anyone doesn’t like A Passion Play!).
Ignore the haters Scott. We love ya!
You get it.
As a lifelong Yes fan, Drama is a top-6 YES album to me. Love every minute of it. Its only flaw is being too short.
I cannot agree more strenuously!!!
Top 3 Yes album for me easily, probably number 2 after Relayer
Panther?
Drama fans call themselves Panthers.
Drama is an excellent Yes album. And it’s legitimately a Yes album. It has the two main ingredients making it so. 1 Chris Squire, 2 the Yes sound
You're annoying? No. Funny and informative? Yes.
Keep doing what you're doing, Scot.
Thank you!!!!!!
A Passion Play is a perfect example of a divisive album. For me, it's number one album by Tull by far.
Also, ATT is my favourite GG album next to IaGH
Wow!!!! See what I mean?!
@@Yarin4ever me too, love APP, is awesome
From the musical point of view, I can't help but see it as an improvement over TAAB in every way. The saddest thing is, were the album not so divisive, I'm sure they could've topped it with their next offering as well, but they completely changed direction instead.
My Holy Trinity of Tull: Aqualung, Thick As A Brick and A Passion Play!!!
I don't think you're annoying. I like the way you do videos. It's entertaining and informative, and your enthusiasm makes me want to listen to prog music even more.
Yay!!!!! That’s the idea.
Great topic and a great list. I happen to love The Final Cut. Other nominees would be any Opeth album from the past 10 years.
Without the Death Growls!!!
Writing a differential equation to mathematically determine the most divisive albums sounds like the most prog thing ever.
Indeed it is!!!
Me encanta tu lista y tus opiniones sobre estos discos, adoro el Tales From Topografic Oceans, el Passion Play es un album trovadoresco e incluso renacentista como pocos, en fin amigo, desde Tenerife te declaro mi apoyo pues he aprendido mucho con tus vídeos, saludos y un abrazo
A wonderful presentation! Respect and Love, Robert
Thank you!!!!!! ❤️👍❤️👍❤️😜
"The Final Cut" is the only Pink Floyd album I still like and listen to occasionally. I've reached a burnt-out place with Floyd where I just overdosed on the hype and overplaying of them by friends & radio. But "Final Cut" never go that treatment, so it's one I never grew tired of.
I like “under the radar” albums and that one definitely qualifies.
A Passion Play and Acquiring The Taste are two of my all time prog faves... LOL
Go figure!!! 😜😜
@@TheProgCorner I'm with you Scot; love APP; in my top 5 Tull albums and surprisingly enough, Acquiring The Taste was the first GG album I bought in the '70s and I think it is pretty darn average, but it didn't put me off buying their next album, Three Friends and from then on I was converted. Really, apart from (obviously) the horrible "Giant For A Day", I believe that GG were *the* No. 1 prog band of the '70s.
Hard to argue with that…
"Stationary Traveller" is great! Thanks for the acknowledgement and the mention ❤
My personal most divisive album has to "Rock Bottom"...
**flees the comment section**
Wyatt’s masterpiece? I’m kinda with you on that…
Agree good album...love from Ireland
Hey keep it up! I love your channel!!!! Prog is an amazing genre and you do it justice every video!
Thank you for the words of encouragement!!!!
Great ranking! I like Yes' Drama, Into the lens is one of my favourite Yes songs. And I love Islands, it's punk (because in the beginning Boz Burrell wasn't a bass player) and it's fusion (the horn section in Formentera Lady and The sailor's tale sounds so Andean to me, love it!). So minimalist, fantastic!
And The final cut! I love it too. I was a kid in the days of Malvinas/Falklands war, six years old, and i think that album captured all the zeitgest of that time. Final cut was the last Pink Floyd to me.
I love your channel too! English is not my native language, as you should have note it, but your talk is so clear and fun that i don't need any subtitles. Keep talking! 😊❤
You are absolutely right about The Final Cut. My favorite Pink Floyd album. I do like Momentary Lapse and Division Bell too. But not as much as Wish You Were Here and Dark Side. The rest of Floyd albums are ok with some gems on most of them.
Scot's favorite all time prog album Tales.....immediately came to mind upon seeing video title. I'm in Scot's camp. Love it!
Thank you!!!! It’s the right camp to be in…
Man.... such spot on decisions, found myself hating half of these and loving the other half 😂😂😂. Another hit video, Scott.
Cheers 🎉🎉🎉
That’s the very essence of what this video is all about!!!
Love all your videos !! U speak from your heart
Thank you!!! I appreciate you!!! ❤️👍👍👍
A Passion Play is an excellent album. I don't care what anybody else says. Maybe it would have been even better if it didn't have "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" on it.
I agree The Final Cut would have worked better as a Roger Waters solo album
I love the Hare Who Lost His Specs. Adorable!!!
Well you seem like cool person to me! Your energy is inspiring and our musical tastes are very similar! Your videos really lift me up! Keep on rockin’ and not carin’ ‘bout the haters! BTW, my copy of Mirror to the Sky arrived. I’ve listened once and I thought it was outstanding. Of course no one can replace the vocal texture of Jon and Chris but the current lineup is doing well with what they have imho!
It’s probably as good as this line up is capable of and that’s plenty good for me!!! I really like it. A lot!!!
Oooh so close to 4k now Scot. Burning it up bro' 🔥
Couple more days…
Thanks Scot for adopting this idea. You could have done a 2 hour slot on this topic easily. Perhaps we can have a part 2? You are in danger of becoming divisive by liking both Topographical Oceans and The Final Cut. Maybe it's a lack of beer or wine or something. However thanks for being honest, informative and real. All hail the ale...and God save the King!
I’ll take a nice American Pilsner…
I just discovered you, and I find you VERY entertaining & amusing!!
Oh wow!!! The channel is still fairly new (17 months) and still very small but it’s growing steadily!!! I try to respond to everyone who takes the time to comment. That’s the benefit of talking about Prog - no chance the channel will ever get so big I can’t interact with my Prog friends around the world. Welcome to The Prog Corner!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍
@@TheProgCorner I think you may be surprised about how many people around the world who still love REAL music!! Plus I'm constantly finding new "prog" bands just here on TH-cam. I personally don't listen to that many new bands, but I'm still glad that it's happening!! I would HATE to see us just letting all of the good rock, prog & metal bands "DIE" without some newer bands continuing their legacy and keeping it alive for all of the younger people of today & the future, so they are not forced to listen to the CRAP that passes for music on the cringe radio stations, supermarkets, etc...
Thank God that Prog is still alive and kicking!!!
Great choices yet again Scott. You can really make a choice either way for many of them.
Keep up the enthusiasm also my dude
Thank you!!! 👍👍👍
Pantagruel's Nativity is such a great album opener! The rest of ATT is of course very atypical GG which is why many might discount it; but it's very progressive and creative.
Great list!
Thank you!!!
You dastardly host: you made me go and listen to Drama by Yes!!!
And you know what? I LOVE it.
(To be fair, I'm not an out-and-out Yes fan, so i don't have Anderson-Wakeman blinkers.)
I think that was my problem with Drama back in 1980. But it really is a fabulous record!!!! With or without Jon and Rick!!!
I hold Trevor Horn in high esteem. Not only was "Video Killed the Radio Stars" one of the greatest ever pop songs and Relax" the iconic song of its era, but Trevor was also the brains behind The Art of Noise, pure instrumental experimental music (aka prog).
The guy had nothing left to prove. The only problem was he didn't really look the part; but there again, did Robert Fripp?
Islands blew me away and to this day sailor's tale is untouchable.
Beefheart's moonbeams is my favourite, gorgeous album dismissed by many.
Two very divisive records - but I love them both!!!
Nice one Scott, I would've had Discipline by KC, where my favourite band came back as a Prog Talking Heads.
Good one. Quite divisive!!!
Nice “Contaminazione” behind you 😎😎
Fantastic LP!!!
Very cool list! I would add a classic Magma album on the most divisive list (many of my prog friends are split on this band about 50/50) because of the Koybian language.
Magma is the ultimate “Marmite” band. You either love them or you hate them. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN WITH MAGMA!!!!
If I were to pick a Genesis album that was divisive it would be Duke. This is the point for me that Genesis started the drift away from their roots. Even and Then There Were Three didn't drift from their roots that much. It lost the mighty Hackett...which was a huge blow. If you remember, Drama, as well as Tormato are my favorite Yes albums. Yeah, I know, I'm a Yes heretic. I can see why Drama would be the most divisive though. I am a huge Steven Wilson fan, but I hate The Future Bites, just as I am a huge Dream Theater fan, but I hate The Astonishing. On a side note, screw those idiots that don't like or appreciate you! You be you! Your enthusiasm is infectious, and you're just a likeable guy. I don't always agree with your opinions, but I don't always agree with a lot of people's opinions. We are brothers and fellow travelers in prog...the music we love. The way you always answer comments is special on TH-cam too!
Duke is exactly spot on!!! (But I still went with W&W…) I’m not really all that bothered by the occasional detractor - it only means that I must be doing something right!!! And yeah, if I can’t take time to respond to comments why would I ever expect someone to spend time watching my videos??? There should be some reciprocity, eh?
No Stravinsky vs. Versace vs. Cage?
Love you man,
Keep on keeping on.
Pizza on erf.
Stravinsky for the win. But Bartok might have a say…
@@TheProgCorner Indeed.
Haven't watched yet but see a fave on the wall. RDM Contamination. ❤
What an amazing album!!!! I love Italian Prog!!!
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Wind & Wuthering are two of my favorite Genesis albums. But there was a time early on when Abacab was my favorite.....
Nothing wrong with that!!!!
Ugh! You are so right! "Final Cut" was such a let down. Go Scott! 😎😎
Yes union. There are some great songs mixed in.
Islands is my second favourite King Crimson album, it's absolutley perfect, and though it's a little hard to understand, I can't tell why so many people don't like it.
I understand. I used to be in that camp…
I love Islands too. What’s your favourite?
I’m a Larks’ Tongues In Aspic guy myself but I love every KC album, every era. I miss them already.
@@TheProgCorner I think “Red” is their magnum opus, but if I had to take only one album to the desert island it would be “Larks’ Tongues…” Not sure that makes sense to anyone but me!
I get it. I think Red is their “best” album but Larks is my “favorite.”
Good choice to pick “Islands” by KC. It’s often forgotten between the first couple of albums with the earliest line-up and then the “Lark’s Tongues” era. The other divisive KC album I’d consider would be “Beat”. Thought there may have been space for “Pictures at an Exhibition 9:47 ” by ELP? I love it, and those who also love it REALLY love it. But there are those who place it way down the pecking order of ELP - behind their eponymous debut, Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus. I’d also have “Five Bridges” by The Nice in there. Again, I love it - but I know so many who don’t. Great vid.
Yeah, Beat was VERY divisive inside KC as well with Belew and Bruford convinced it was better than Discipline but Fripp and Levin knew better. They almost broke up during the recording sessions…
@@TheProgCorner I think Bruford said it was the worst recording session he’s ever been through - and he’s been through some pretty intense ones! He said “Fragile” and “Close to the Edge” were accurate descriptions of Yes during the time of recording, after all!
Well made list! The Final Cut as the most divisive album in prog (barring TFTO) is absolutely fair. I'm not personally a big fan of it but it's got at least a few good moments. The Gilmour albums might be even more divisive but that falls more into a "divisive era" camp. (Though I do tend to defend those.) As for others... You mentioned The Astonishing in passing as not making your list, but it is a good answer. Personally I like it okay by looking at it as basically trying to be a stage musical in vaguely prog metal form, but it is definitely rather low by DT standards. Haken'a Virus might count in a sort of weird delayed sense of the sound change one - even the people who were cool with the new style on Vector seem to have found the album as a whole underwhelming, so the followup fleshing that out and improving on that era of the band was received well by them but not so much by those who just didn't want that sound to begin with. (I like those albums personally but I get why some don't.) Coheed and Cambria's Year of the Black Rainbow may also count, since it's a very notable new sound that didn't stick around, so it really gets a lot of heat but also some who really like what it was doing. And if the comments on the music videos made for it are anything to go by, the latest Pain of Salvation album, Panther, was a bit hard for some people to take, but I just can't get enough of it. But hey, that's the beauty of music, different people can like different things and that's pretty rad at the end of the day!
Only just come across this episode :) Wind & Wuthering is brilliant, but to be honest, most 'classic' Genesis fans I know love it, so I was surprised it was here... the Lamb on the other hand, now THAT is divisive! Islands is SUPERB and one of my favourite KC albums. #1 was a shoo-in :) I personally love it and it's far better than any Floyd - band or solo - that came after it.
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Excellent!
Surprised that some people don't like Wind and Wuthering? I usually hear "And Then There Were Three" as the cutoff point for some people/the loss of Hackett. I love both albums! Only problem with W and W is that one song that I don't think should be there--"Your Own Special Way" but everything else is top-notch. (lots of people seem good with that song too, I just don't think it fits) I don't dislike anything on And Then There Were Three (I love all of it, same as W and W--well mostly), but it's a weaker album overall. Anyway, that's the way I see it. I actually like The Final Cut too, but don't spin it too often. (I actually don't own it right now except on cassette, so ya) Love the channel, Scot! Keep 'em coming! PS, I actually think Abacab is fantastic too, but side two is weaker after a strong start with Dodo/Lurker it sort of dips (and I don't even mind Whodunnit, just obviously not that great and the ones after it are "ok" but not amazing to me.
I think I placed W&W there because I had a few friends back then that loved Genesis but disowned them after ATOTT. Their loss!!! But maybe ATTWT or Duke would have been better suited for the brief at hand…
@@TheProgCorner True, Duke is often a cut-off point for some people too. There's no real cutoff for me at all, but then again the first one I heard in its entirety was Genesis/1983. We Can't Dance was kind of a weak one though. (still with some great tunes too) But I liked Calling All Stations, actually! ;) But I guess my faves are the seven from Trespass to Wind (but I love And Then There Were Three too)
All Genesis is good Genesis!!!
Hi Scott i pretty much enjoyed all those albums you mentioned, i love Tales from Topographic oceans, a Passion Play, the Lamb and Camels Stationary Traveller is a great record ( i love early 80's music anyway) the only prog album i really can't stand (and ive really really tried) is ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, i just could never get into it. Great list
That’s weird but BSS is a different kind of experience.
@TheProgCorner believe me I've tried, with Brain Salad surgery, I had no such Issues with A Passion Play or Tales from Topographic oceans. Maybe I've just got weird ears 😅
Every Prog fan has “weird ears!!!!”👂
I personally love With And Wuthering. Especially One For The Vine ...
Me too!!!
i love your channel and you are not anoying .
for me entertaining and funny
and you a have a clear opinion😊
Hey! I’m just a dude talking about Prog!!! People get insensitive but I have a thick skin - which I think is a prerequisite for hosting a TH-cam channel…
Great list! I’m pretty sure that about half of these picks I really love and but had to warm up to. Drama is fantastic, W&W is fantastic, and Asia is super fun. One album that might make my own list would be Power Windows. Lots of Rush fans feel that this one went too far into the synths but the songwriting is still killer and it wasn’t until Hold Your Fire that they really started to lose steam in terms of phenomenal albums in my opinion. I’m right with you on The Future Bites, it’s well produced and some songs are quite good, but it’s hard to get around the spiteful attitude it has toward the consumer. I feel like it is exactly what Steven was going for though so a complete conceptual success.
I almost included Power Windows!!!!!!
Power Windows almost lost me - the synths were too harsh & biting. Hold Your Fire brought me back, top notch songwriting (except Tai Shan), the synth sounds were first rate and Alex's solos were out of this world - I think Mission is collossally underrated.
Hold Your Fire has really grown on me lately!!!
Rush is my favorite band and I completely agree with your assessment.Seeing that the first time I saw them was on the Grace tour, and as a seventeen year old Rocker Praying for "The old stuff ", I could say That album might be their most devisive. For decades now I have absolutely loved the album!!
Rush rules. 19 albums of greatness to prove it too!!!
I think my favorite on that list is Wind and Wuthering, but I think I like Trick of the Tail a little more.
I am critical of TFTO but if someone really likes it, I kind of shrug and say "whatever". I mean it's Yes, so that's pretty good. If they played kazoos for a whole album it would be pretty good too. I can see why people don't like Wind and Wuthering, but it has some really tasty pieces like 'Blood on the Rooftops', and such nice piano work. Acquiring the taste was my first GG album. I like the older stuff because it's more chill. I think I like Three Friends more. Asia was great, but the problem is obvious. They veered off the hard core prog sound. I really love Drama, it's still standing the test of time. Islands is the type of record you can show to like a Jazz fan. It's very tasteful but they were too indulgent at times. Passion Play is one of my fav Tull albums. It's more tighter prog, and more consistently attention-getting. I don't like the Wall all that much, so Final Cut doesn't have a chance with me.
Yeah. A Trick Of The Tail was a hard act to follow!!!!
And Then There Were Three! When Hackett left Genesis lost its soul and went for the money. The most challenging bands would be a great topic. Prog itself is too challenging for many!
Love A Passion Play! Tough luck if someone thinks you are annoying. That's their loss and some people find prog annoying 🙃
Exactly!!!
Are you a fan of Sea of Tranquility? Some great prog discussions and on music in general over there.
Pete Pardo is amazing.
Heh. Abacab just might be my favorite Genesis album. I love the first Asia album and Drama is phenomenal. Then again, I hit my teens in the early 80s so these were my soundtrack for my high school years.
Nice!!!
I love Calling All Stations and i know i am somewhat alone on that end, because i see the intense hatred for it Everywhere. No really everywhere. I love it, it is a favorite of mine. Dead serious
I’ve met a few people who feel the same. Ray Wilson is hard to hate…
Listen to Ween Scott!! They are not super proggy but sure a worthy listen. Their "The Mollusk" album is a fantastic oceanic concept album!!
I guy named Kramer mastered the first wedgepiece album for me - he turned me on to Ween. I guess he worked with them at some point. Amazing band!!!!
@@TheProgCorner hell yeah brother, glad you like them 🤘🏻❤️
I need to dig deeper though…
Asia's first album is just straight ahead AOR, but they got proggier during the John Payne era. Arena and Aura are both phenomenal, and I love Silent Nation too.
I love the Joe Payne era!!!
Great choices for divisive albums. For most of these on your list I come down on the side of Brilliant. Love Wind and Wuthering, Drama, A Passion Play, and Acquiring the Taste. I Like Asia, Traveller, Islands. The only ones here I really dislike are Future Bites (just not something I want to listen to) and The Final Cut, which is near the very bottom of PF albums (and as you said, really a RW solo album).
I think I like all of them to varying degrees…
GreatvTopiv!! Abd nice selections! I do not get it why you did not include tales of... in the list? Too obvious? 😮 anyway thank you for turning me from a hater to a fan of this album!!
Exactly that: too obvious!!!
Good program! Tho, I really like most of those.
That was a fun episode!!!
I kept expecting a Pink Floyd album and figured that’d be the one.
There aren’t as many truly divisive Prog albums as I thought. Bands? For sure. But the Marmite Prog Album is surprisingly rare…
Hi Scott love the show, love Prog 😊 but I'm not convinced 'Trout Mask Replica' is ìn any way, shape or form a prog album 😂
Yeah, it’s really not Prog but it’s also not not Prog either…
in my opinion,the only one I feel is divisive is The Final Cut
Yes,90210, Genesis,Duke ,Crimson,Discipline , Tull,Under Wraps for sure.....in my opinion
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Funny I like all of these. I had a problem with Drama when it first came out; loyalty to Jon. Once I got past that, I found its a really good album that stands on its own.
May not be prog, but one album I always thought was pretty devisive was Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Music.
Extremely divisive!!!! Or that Lulu album he did with Metallica…
The Final Cut great Album
I agree!!! Many do not…
Fantastic show, some great albums here, actually my favorite JT album is A passion play, I just adore it. I must say I hate that Genesis, Asia and Steven Wilson album, also don't like The final cut, for me the worst PF album. Islands and Drama are fantastic. Cheers my friend and thanks for the best channel on TH-cam. Respect and love from Bosnia and Herzegovina.
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@@TheProgCorner And it's fantastic to see Ring van möbius album on the display. 👌👌👌👌
Scot, you remind of Frank Zappa in a way. Frank Zappa said his music was for the people who like him and not for those that don't. Your channel is for the people that like you (such as myself). If you don't like it then there's all those other channels. Naysayers be damned. Keep doing what you do and prog on!
Exactly!!! Plenty of options!!! Move on…
Be by Pain of Salvation seems really divisive as well
It is. Great suggestion!!!
thank you for another reminder why I don't bother with Prog(Snob)Archives.
I love Drama and A Passion Play, but like I mentioned on twitter, more or less every album I enjoy is to some degree divisive.
it's like that old quote "you laugh at me because my taste is different, and I laugh at you because your taste is all the same"
I like that saying!!!
Passion Play is my favorite Tull album.
It’s 10/10 for sure!!!
Annoying? Wont hear of it. Energetic, rather.
Just the sound of "Greetings, salutations, respect and love" makes a good start to my day, so keep it very much up.
Some good picks yet again. I don't care for Asia, I think "Drama" is kind of uneven, "The Final Cut" never did much for me, "Islands" had to grow on me, "Lizard" I love from start to end, "Acquiring The Taste" and "Wind and Wuthering" are both great though not their best, "Passion Play" is my favourite Tull album on certain days.
Some days I wonder why so many puts down "The Wall" and at times I wonder if I am a bit of a weirdo for loving "Ummagumma".
(I love Ummagumma too. All four sides are blissful to these ears…)
@@TheProgCorner It's gooood to be a weirdo some times!
Off topic though - tonight I'm going to the great Mr. Steve Hackett's gig in Oslo.
And since we're talking - you being partly of Norwegian inheritance might know what day it is tomorrow.
Hooraayy for us! 🥰
Constitution Day!!!!!
Tales From The Topographic Oceans is easily a Top 5 YES album and The Lamb Top 3 Genesis
Definitely!!!!
my thoughts- camel- haven't listened (perhaps once); genesis- great, almost at the same level with foxtrot and sebtp; gg- very good; cpt beefheart- not my type; asia- commercial, but fine commercial; yes- drama: love it; steven wilson- haven't listened; king crimson- masterpiece, as the other 6 albums from the initial era; jethro tull- i tried and i tried, but i don't dig it (otherwise, i love all their 70s work... maybe warchild is not that great); final cut- love it, one of my all time favourites
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This is interesting . . . Aside from theatre pieces (Opera, Operetta, Oratorios, Passions, Musicals, etc.) Yes' great album "Tales from Topographic Oceans" is the SECOND LONGEST piece ever recorded. At 1:23 it trails Mahler's Third Symphony (1:40 - 1:50) but outlasts Mahler's Second Symphony (1:10 - 1:20). My opinion, though, is that "Tales", for best appreciation, should be listened to one side at a time and perhaps be treated as 4 separate pieces.
I love Mahler but he did not rock!!!!!
Definitely not!@@TheProgCorner
Two from Supertramp: (we'll set aside the discussion about whether or not Supertramp is a prog band)
Famous Last Words and Brother Where You Bound
Famous Last Words divides Supertramp fans because some say it is too poppy(It's Raining Again is exhibit A), yet, there are some great songs on it, and, yes, those great songs are proggy(especially side 2)
Brother Where You Bound gets ripped by the " It isn't Supertramp without Roger Hodgson " types(and those who dislike Cannonball), but, a very good/great album, and yes, prog abounds(along with jazz rock, Rick Davies always brings that in)
I love Brother Where You Bound!!! But both were divisive indeed. Great call!!!!
bwyb is a great album! supertramp is a great prog band.
Yes indeed!!!!
Those "no [band] without [key member]" people give me a headache....
@@Sammeep02 preach, I'm a Kansas fan first and foremost, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard " it isn't Kansas without Steve Walsh (or Kerry Livgren) " I'd be a millionaire
I had really high expectations for Wind & Wuthering so I was pretty disappointed when I heard it. THAT SAID, One For The Vine and especially Blood On The Rooftops are masterpieces, some of my favorite Genesis songs, the latter possibly one of my all time favorite songs, but if the album didn't have those two I wouldn't like it nearly as much.
As for Acquiring The Taste, I never liked it all too much but re-listened to the whole thing and have become completely addicted, it's incredible and has quickly risen to the top of my favorite GG albums, which is saying something!
It took me a LONG time to appreciate Acquiring The Taste!!! W&W I always loved!!!
Beefheart and TMR is among! He greatest LPs ever made. It's art.
For over 50 years I have been trying to figure it out. To no avail. All I know is that TMR is pure genius…
@@TheProgCorner I recall a late 80's Rolling Stone "Best Albums Ever" list where Trout Mask Replica was in the top trip. That Zappa and Beefheart made music together should have triggered other artists to collaborate outside their usual millieu.
Here's some questions for thought this video inspires:
What's the best prog band that never was, or failed collaboration? Most famous unfinished prog album? Best prog private pressing?
@seanwelch3174 Hmmm. Good questions!!!
Hey Scott, it's not related to the content but I want to ask something.
Recently, my friend and I decided to give the ELP album "Tarkus" a shot.
It was a wonderful album and we had a blast. (So much so that my friend decided to make a pixel art version of the album cover, lol)
But now we want to listen to more ELP. We don't know which albums or songs should we listen to so I want to ask you, the Prog Master Scott:
Have you got any suggestions to which songs/albums we need to listen?
I’m a big Tarkus fan!!! Great album. Next try Trilogy or Brain Salad Surgery. Both are incredible!!!! Enjoy exploring ELP. What a band!!!
I was reacting to each album I was aware of and it was funny. With the ones I love it was "this is misunderstood - if more people listended to it..." and the hates were "Oh yeah, that's a pile of poo". The one I don't agree with on this list is "Wind & Wuthering" which is a fairly middling Genesis album, Afterglow's an all-time great, One from the Vine & 11th Earl of Marr are good, Wot Gorilla and Mouses Dream I could live without. I can't imagine it being on anyone's top or bottom 5 Genesis albums regardless of where they sit on Phil vs Peter
I have seen a fair amount of Genesis fans site it as their #1. And I’m with you, it’s really good but I think I had it at #6 on my rankings video. I’ll give W&W this: it’s an album that helped launch the entire Neo Prog sound.
@@TheProgCorner I'm with Widge on the Neo Prog label - I was there, I saw Marillion 4 times starting with the tour they did to support Market Square Heroes, Pallas 3 times (Including the Sentinel tour), Twelfth Night 3 times & IQ once (sadly) and never once during all that time did I hear the term Neo Prog. The first time I saw it was on Wikipedia years later and I had to look up the definition
Labels are funny like that!!!
I love Lizard and Islands!
Me too!!!
Acclimating to Passion Play was hard, but now I like it even better than TaaB. That says something because I acknowledge TaaB to be one of the greats!
I love them both so much!!!!
Great list. Islands took me awhile too. Final cut was disappointing. Passion play I can see why people don’t love it. Scot I’m like you in the sense that I can see why people don’t like stuff I like and like stuff I don’t. It’s ok ✅. Oh another divisive band is Sparks.
Sparks!!! Man, I love those brothers…
@@TheProgCorner i would have guessed that.they a song recently called Existential Threat. Great stuff.
Been a fan since Kimono My House…
What a clever idea. I can't disagree with your choices here. It is so subjective though, isn't it?
Personally, I went right off Yes with Tormento. However, the new album is a different matter, and I will give it a good listen, especially after your posts last week.
I appreciate all your videos on TH-cam! So thank you Scot.
Thanks, Andrew!!! ❤️❤️👍👍Tormato is an excellent call…
Not good for my blood pressure!🩸💉💊🩺😎
Jeff, breathe deeply and keep taking the tablets..
@@andrewlongshaw2128 Andrew I've been on my BP meds for 26 years. I stop I die.👍😎
@@andrewlongshaw2128 Thank you for your concern. I really appreciate it!👍😎
Jethro Tull’s Passion Play is one of the most divisive albums ever. For me is one of their greatest albums, but critics somehow convinced the band that it was a crap.
I love it too!!! ❤️❤️❤️
1, I Hate; 2. I Like; 3. I like; 4. Indiferent; 5. I like, 6: I Like; 7; Indiferent; 8. I Like; 9. I love it; 10. I really hate
For me, Land of Pink and Grey is the best Camel. They have the best vocal coaching on this LP, giving their lukewarm pipes some charm. See: Golf Girl.
I love Caravan!!!!!
I feel like "Abacab" is the more divisive album by Genesis. You always see that either really low or really high.
You might be right…
K.C. Islands holds A special place in my heart due to the diverisity of the album & the Funky bass lines From Boz on it .At least Fripp even Likes that one Unlike its predessor Lizard that he really hates to the point not ever including any tracks on King Crimson collections..the exception bolero remixe Frame by frame box set..Out of print to my knowledge .shame!
I read that Fripp had a change of heart recently regarding Lizard. For years he called it unlistenable!!! Even a genius can admit when he’s wrong!!!!
Cool!
Goodness, there are loads, for many different reasons...
Yes: Tales, Drama, 90125
Genesis: And Then There Were Three, Abacab
Marillion: Seasons End
Rush: Presto
Pink Floyd: The Wall, Momentary Lapse of Reason
Jethro Tull: Under Wraps
Seasons End. For sure!!!
You definitely got some divisive albums on this list, that's for sure. Rush has had some divisive albums. How about Roll The Bones for example? I know a lot of fans hated the fact that Rush had included rapping in the single.
The rap song!!! That alone made me think about including Roll The Bones. Also thought about Power Windows and Caress Of Steel as being somewhat divisive.
@@TheProgCorner Oh yeah, way too much synthesizer on those two.
Divisive but like them or not they're still better than most of the stuff coming out today. As for that wanker's comment if he's not one of us then he's one of them and nobody wants to be one of them.
Just one of those elitists on the Progarchives Forum. I responded to his comment by telling him that I loved him. I haven’t heard back!!!
The future bites is actually my favorite Steven Wilson album by far
But that's probably because i don't care for the rest of his music, both solo and Porcupine tree
That makes sense. But maybe try To The Bone - it kind of splits the difference!!!
Wind and Wuthering they only mistake were "your own special way" and maybe "Wot Gorilla! Inside and Out should be on it instead, then id give it a 10/10
That’s about right!!! 👍
Islands was the first KC I bought. I hated it for a while and it almost turned me off the band entirely. It eventually grew on me though.
I despised it. It definitely grew on me!!!!
I would say ConstruKction of Light... but most people generally put that lower in their list of King Crimson music, so I guess it isnt that divisive. I actually like ConstruKction.
I do too!!!
Wind and Wuthering is the first Genesis album that limped . They recovered , but not for long .
Are the Gandalf beards and fantasy cars enough to call ZZTop a prog band? Some of their covers sure look trippy.
Why not??!!!!
Blood on the Rooftops! Eleventh Earl of Mar!
I love Wind and Wuthering!!!
I'm a big Gentle Giant fan and I agree -- Acquiring the Taste is pretty forgettable. As for Passion Play, it's actually a more "sincere" album that TAAB, it just isn't cohesive. It literally sounds like a bunch of stuff stuck together with no big finale. It just fizzles out. The only thing about the Pink Floyd album that's divisive is that a lot of people don't think it's prog. And thank you for keeping the reviews quick. Too many reviewers like the sound of their own voice a little too much.
I’m guilty of that at times. I try to rein myself in!!!
I’m guilty of that at times. I try to rein myself in!!!
Acquiring The Taste.,..ahahahahah. My favourite from Gentle Giant. Along with Three Friends.
See what I mean??!!!! ❤️👍❤️👍
@@TheProgCorner Yup, man. To each their own. That's the beauty of art. Kudos for that Rovescio vinyl in the background.
What a great album!!!! I love RPI.
@@TheProgCorner Yeah, they were all indigenous to me. Area, Perigeo, RDM etc...I'm from down there. Lots of great stuff I have to thank my dad for discovering...stole hella vinyls from him. Cheers, man.
Nice!!! Some of those old Italian records are worth a fortune too…
When I think of divisive my thought was: EVERY SINGLE RABIN ERA YES ALBUM
I don't get how anybody can dog poop on ASIA or DRAMA either. Sure, Yes and the Buggles are a crazy combination, but SOMEHOW it works.
I wouldn't call Wuthering divisive, I think a better fit for that title would be Invisible Touch. Oh yeah, and Abacab is my #2 genesis album last I checked.
Okay, there’s one in every crowd!!! No, you’re dead right about the Rabin era - super divisive era for the band…
@@TheProgCorner Still don't get why prog-gone-pop is a "sellout" in the minds of unilateral superfans. Isn't the point of being "progressive" and making "progressive" music about challenging the rules and norms of the rock genre? Prog-gone-pop songs are even better than OTHER 80s songs, the kind that the people of my generation who say they "were born in the wrong generation" listen to. Add to that, versatility ensures the right for fans to still enjoy some material if they can't get into other albums....
It was the eighties!!! It had to be so…