Finally: Japan Revealed The Rebirth of the YF-23 Stealth Fighter
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- The history of American aviation is replete with projects that were never brought to life. Standing out among them is the engineering marvel the YF-23, which once promised to redefine the future of air superiority.
So why did the United States abandon this aircraft, and can we expect its reincarnation in the future, perhaps as part of another country’s air force?
We’ll be covering that in today’s video!
I don't see any Japan revealing the rebirth of YF-23 only the very old YF-23! Please change your title
Agreed ... Military Affairs ... get a clue and stop recycling AI-generated and AI-edited footage as new material for clickbait. Don't be stupid. People might start flagging your videos as fake news.
As someone who grew up in torrance.... that YF-23 behind the acura dealership (which you can see in the video) .... driving by it used to be so strange. Just a random super stealth fighter, stashed a block behind an car dealership. Nice to see its sort of being displayed properly now.
For an aircraft which lost the competition, the YF-23 simply won't go away.
It's definitely a beautiful aircraft, and had it been selected, could have perhaps been an even better aircraft than the YF-22 w/further development.
It's also been said that it is closer to a Gen6 aircraft rather than that of a Gen5.
Also too, the YF-22 had a lot of issues that needed to be addressed, even copying things from the YF-23. They even called on Northrop engineers for help to fix some things on it.
I'd certainly like to see its rebirth by Japan.
The problem w/these stealth aircraft though, they're very expensive to maintain and fly, due to a host of issues, but especially their composites and the special RADAR absorbing coatings on them.
As such, I'm glad to see the interest in purchasing the F-15EX, in order to do missions not requiring stealth. It helps to reduce the flight times and wear and tear on the F-22/F-35's. Technology wise, the 15EX is an entirely new aircraft from the ground up, w/fly-by-wire, electronics, computers, and a more advanced RADAR than what the F-22/F-35 have. Plus, it's both faster, just as manurable, if not more so, than the F-22, even w/o trust vectoring, carries more weapons, has greater range, has two engines vs. just one, and should be less costly to maintain overall. While not stealth, but w/the help of RADAR absorbing paint and such, it should be better than previous F-15 models, w/a smaller signature. In all essence, it's a Gen4.5 Plus aircraft.
As for needed training, those experience w/the F-15C, D, and E models should be able to switch over fairly easily, including the Pilots.
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The ATF procurement director was interviewed. His summary was both airframes were capable of meeting all the requirements posed to them - this implies the decision was not based on flight capabilities, but other things as mentioned - the overruns for the B2, keeping competition in the space, manufacturability, risk, etc. There are also inaccuracies in the commentary - the F22 has a ceiling well in excess of 60k feet, so probably the same as the YF23; there is no way large tail planes can match maneuverability of thrust vectoring. I personally think the FY23 looks much better. However, his final summary - maybe the loss of the contract was a blessing in disguise is accurate I believe ... the B21 raider was the program to win. I can't wait to see the NGADs ... and how the US will again push the boundaries.
While both exceeded demands on the program, they had slightly different aptitudes. At highter speeds apparently the 23 was better as turning with those massive surfaces, and more stealthy too, also faster... but part of the point of a tactical fighter is dogfighting, and with the flanker and fulcrum both being fast and agile, excellent dog fighters, i think the airforce wanted the better dog fighter, since other requirements were at least met either way.
Also, apparently, the 22 was a kind of total package of advanced technology, largely because of how Lockheed skunkworks did their innovation. The 22 reflected a lot og systemic advancements you couldn't see, from airframe construction to the 1 piece bubble canopy, etc.
The 23 on the otherhand borrowed bots here and there from older aircraft to keep costs low and speed up the development of the new technologies on display, grom the canopy, seats, landing gear, etc... it was a kind of Frankenstein monster. To be sure, this means if they'd had more time, or reworked these parts for production, it would have been EVEN BETTER, but during the test this lead to little problems, like the canopy, and it made them look unprepared, unprofessional, coupled with a lack of polished marketing, it definitely lead to a bias based on the association many people have between little problems and a suspicion that bigger problems might arive as well if pushed.
Its like a job interview, if your shirt isnt ironed or youre late, it foesnt mean you aren't smarter or more qualified, but it telegraph that you don't have it together and could be less stable, less commited, less competent, from unseen issues.
As a Japanese I heard this only as a rumor and without tangible info.
Japan wants to more or less build it's own fighters because or else the technology will be lost due to retirement of engineers involved in developing the F-2.
I believe that's why Japan has joined with Britain and Italy with their project (Which is officially announced by the JDF).
As someone who wants to know where the JSDF stands I say this is just crap click bait probably paid for by Lockheed
yes japan is trying to produce a fighter in house. not using american tech
@@nomercyinc6783 Nope there you're wrong . Tech transfer was approved years ago they're also working with US manufacturers just like South Korea . It will be an indigenous aircraft but not wholly separated from the US .
The contribution to the joint Tempest project via Japan, Italy, and the UK will be second to none
@@skeletonkey6733 I'm sensing g a shill here
More politicians were invested in Lockheed than in Northrop. That is how Lockheed got the contract.
EXACTLY!! They offered more kickbacks, bribes, and payoffs.
The YF-23 was incredible. I read up on those planes and they were impressive! That's the choice they should have went with. Your speed is wrong. The YF-23 was reported to make the F-22 look "slow". That's no BS.
The YF-23 looks like something out of an anime so it makes sense the Japanese were like “hold up…let this one cook”
USAF should have actually accepted both for combat purposes. The Navy should have had a proposal to accept the F-23 as it would have definitely benefited for it's long range. Also proposed thrust Vectoring & being it had larger & deeper weapons bays. It could have had rotary type weapons bays for more weapons systems. Plus had a few for dedicated Bombers. F-23 faster, stealthier & longer ranges. What's Not to like. Entergrated technology with the F-22, F-35, F-23, F-15, F-16 & F-18 even with B1 - B2 & the Raider bombers OMG. It would have been a huge Advantage. Even as a Super secret Interceptor just make it 20% larger being it had no radar cross section. & Use it with Black Ops.
YEP! USAF wasted all that potential at that time.
It seems to me that some geniuses in the gov. sold some of these designs already, problem seems they were to the wrong team !
The navy should've accepted the NATF-23, would've been a huge upgrade to the navy
"Japan Revealed The Rebirth of the YF-23 Stealth Fighter"
lol, I needed a good laugh.
What a wise move by Japan. Advancing amd developing a brilliant platform.
Someone should have taken advantage of the design and not let all that engineering and hard work go to waste. It’s got a longer flight range than the F-22 and that would be very advantageous for Japan.
The YF-23 was made by the americans...
@@RngBooger yes I know. Two were built and flown. What I was saying was that instead of the technology being shelved and not used that it should have been used in a future production or what would have been the best was to produce both planes the F-22 and the F-23 and assign different roles to each or make one available for export.
I have kin who worked here and it was a big surprise that Northrop's entry was elbowed aside. No disrespect to Lockheed on this one. The YF-23 has a lot of features that could help the US in the not to distant future.
The yf 23 design is absolutely 6th Gen!! I think it was way ahead of its time! That thing is amazing looking! The F 23 should be made now, just upgrade interior. Idk that thing literally looks like it should be flying in space
The "competition" of the YF-23 and the F-22 in this video was more or less made into an anime.
It's called Macross Plus. Completely fictional story but the concept of the these two competing planes was the inspiration.
The planes in the anime are called the YF-19 and the YF-21 though.
Then Hollywood re-made it into the terrible live action movie called "Stealth"
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God, I hope so. It deserves to be a great fighter.
Good work man.
The YF23 has an aerodynamic design that may well be the starting point for the Japanese/Italian/British design as it answers a lot of the needs, especially for Japan. $$$$$ is the "decider" but each nation can add features that it can afford. Japan'a version will likely be the best if $$$ is the big factor.
don't forget that saudi arabia joined too, so more $$$
The YF 23 is better as a distant memory
Many experts have repeatedly said the YF-23 was a much superior airplane in critical factors, and in others it matched or was slightly less than the YF-22. But overall it was a better platform that had many "future" proof characteristics - which is most likely why is was more expensive in its day. I believe the reason why it was more expensive has everything to do with this "future" proof characteristic. Meaning, that it was a platform ahead of its time, and easily pushing or surpassing the technology of its day to the max. For that reason, I believe they shelfed it until the technology caught up, as well as the weaponry - which both have exponentially matured in today's current environment. I believe the YF-23 has been brought out of long-term storage, and has now been fitted with all the technology it was meant to have in the first place. We are about to see it in all its glory, modified, and updated with all of our current tech, as well as cutting edge tech we have not even seen yet. The world is about to be shocked. Oh yeah...., and then there is the other 6-th gen fighter that is being built too. Double whammy.
It actually had everything to do with the Air Force constantly changing the scope of the project. USAF kept adding stuff it wanted. If you look at the development run between the YF23 and the YF22 the YF22 got a later start, so they had more of the scope of what the AF was looking for and didnt need to re-engineer the new scope into the project.
great fighter.
It’s amazing how the aircraft that never make it past prototype are always viewed as being the best and a missed opportunity such as the YF-23, F-20 Tigershark, F-16XL, TSR-2, XB-70 Valkyrie, CF-105 Arrow, F-108 Rapier and no doubt many more.
The reality is if the YF-23 had won and been built we’d be lamenting the missed opportunity of the YF-22. Had the F-20 been built it would have been at the cost of export sales of F-16’s and with out the volume would that aircraft have ever been developed into the capable machine it is today? If the F-16XL had been built there would have been no F-15E Strike Eagle and we’d be posting ill informed vids on what a missed opportunity that was!
Most of these planes look cool, have outrageous Top Trump winning specs but the reality is they were never fully developed so we’ll never truly know.
Otherwise it’s all wishful thinking, rose tinted glasses and at very best anecdotal. The YF-23 never made it, 30 years on they’re not going to go build it now!
Just imagine if Canada took the 23....and called it ARROW 2.
The YF23 was and is the best design, but Northrop's B2 cost overruns doomed it.
You know some generals are dumb when are impressed by some ordinary missile launch.
I bet we will see YF-23 tech in the NGAD and maybe F/A-XX.
Reborne or 30 years ahead of it's time?
So the sir force selected the YF22 because they thought it was a better dog fighter. Well we rarely dog fight but fight from beyond visual range. It was also because the YF 22 could do the Cobra maneuver, whick like I said dog fights are rare these days.
@6:00 mins that image can't possibly be of the F-22, as there is literally a consortium of countries in shot. That must be the F-35 and it's tier partners. F-22 didn't have foreign investment, or foreign sales.
the yf23 was an incredible machine.
If the US government can manage to keep Japan from trying to return to the glorious Empire of Japan, then it would be a good thing to have them produce some of the viable alternate aircraft designs that the US armed forces decided to pass on. Still more than enough to keep both Russia and China in check.
What’s next? Japan reintroducing the Zero?
No chance this bird ever flies again.
It is a shame that the US government demanded the dismantling of the F-22 assembly line. Sounds so suspicious. I bet the YF-23 assembly line still exists with just a little bit of dust on it. If I was Northrop, I would make about 10 of them and bring them up to current specs. Same network, radar, and instruments as the F-35.
Funny, the wiring isn't done by italy. But I guess they wanted it to work.
I'm preshuming that le YF23 is still operational, it's just they mooved it into le black project's area, made it bigger caravan style, and is now probabllee crusin between here and Mar's on a regular basis.
Resurrect a 30 plus year old artifact? No thanks
"If you have fewer refuelers, you need more range!"
YF23 was a far superior platform than the F22. It represents the beginning of the development of NGAD aircraft.
Hindsight is always 20/20... both planes are awesome and considering the lack of need for true dog fighting...the YF-23 likely would've been a better suiter for our longer-term needs. Still, the Raptor is downright sick and I'm not upset that it got built.
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It’s called the Tempest and it’s getting made in the UK who invented great aircraft technology just like the P.1154 VTOL jet design that is the F35B VTOL system because jet thrust vectoring was also invented by Roll’s Royce with the flying bedstead
So this started out as a re body F 18. So cant we rebody the rest of them into quasi F 22s.
If congress will not object to transfer the design of F23 to Japan, surely it will fly again as combat fighters
Need to look up stats but the 23 looks like a bomber. seems HUGE.
Basically the same foot print as the F22.
Whereas the B-1 is the most beautiful bomber, so the YF-23 is the most beautiful fighter. IMHO, the decision makers did not choose the best platform.
No, as others have stated, they’re going to use Tempest.
So, the YF-23 is finally back... almost?
The bottom line was the F22 was cheaper to build as it carried many parts already in production for the F15. The YF-23 was a whole new monster with very few carried-over parts. AND, Lockheed had the deep pockets and ear of the Pentagon. The YF-23 was better in almost all aspects and there was no thrust vectoring designated in the concept program. I worked at NG during this program and have friends in-the-know on all the particulars.
There are numerous articles on the F22 project overrunning the budget causing production to end. The planned procurement number was 750 but that was cut to 187.
@@mindexpansionpuzzles I’ve heard the same. So much for being ‘cheaper’ to build huh? And cutting production numbers just causes the price per plane to skyrocket (just like the B2).
@@liquidsmokemustang1537 or just maybe half of the budget for the f22 is put to something else's development, a development so secret they needed the f22 as a decoy,then suddenly the f22 was stopped from production because of "budget issues" then videos like this later came out. hmm, interesting..., then a few years from now a new fighter jet similar to YF23 appears. just my speculations after seeing some infos from people claiming the YF23 development didnt stop but just went dark.
@@bernarddelossantos8083 Yeah. There are some comments to that effect on this video. My wife was the executive admin for the B2 program VP. Some of those engineers worked on the YF23 program. A very tight-lipped bunch but, what you suggest wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
All that, plus the post-cold-war era was defined by trying to collapse as few defense industry companies as possible, so there was a lot of "participation trophies" to keep the job market stable.
9:55 screams tomcat
If japan can it will
What about Japan or is this a historical lesson that most already know. Half over and nothing new.
I hate these clickbait ads...
this should have won on looks alone because it looks like a dang spaceship........
Japan Italy and uk signed today for this plane
Wtf is Japan here for? Clickbait 💯
Everyone forgets that the first YF22 crashed on its first flight, and the YF23 flew 6 months before the YF22!! Politics chose the YF22, not the design or capabilities, the YF23 was built stealthy, not the YF22. Lockheed had to get more money to develop it’s stealth capabilities!!
To be honest the f-23 does look cool enough to be Japanese
Huge delta in range….
Too advance , thats why f23 was not chosen. Same as the flying wings of jack northrop drsign during ww2 was rejected by that time because it was too advance until it was manufacture during the 80s now the b2 spirit.
So the title is oure click bait
They could have a cheaper version and turn it into a unmanned stealth drone and use the extra space to hold weapons or more mini-drones. Of course, you don't want to lose the classified paint, so you might not paint it with that special stealth paint so it can turn ram into a target it needed.
Nah. We good
YF-23 didn't win because to expensive.Now we have the F-22 Raptor that turned out to be 3 times more expensive then proposes.This is called CORRUPTION !!
Well we now know for sure the specs on both these jets are bogus, the F22 FOR DAMN SURE thanks to some cheesy ass Chinese balloons and the shooting down of said balloons with the F22 supposedly at a height of 60,000 + feet for verification and then shot down with an AIM9 sidewinder air to air short range missile. Now if it did that with a service ceiling of 50,000 per this video then I suspect both fighters have a service calling of 65,000 feet at least. We should have fielded both of these fighters but when you have the new EX 15 in your stable at half the price, what is the need.
Still cruisin after all ov theise yrs
Is this an AI Channel ?
YukiKaze?
Hmm The Ruskies tried it with the SU57
Mig 50 hunter....
Dought Japan would use a gen 5 jet when it is time to make a 6!!!!!!
Please update your title - it is completely false. Northrop is not involved in Japan's next gen fighter. Your video would be good if you had the correct title
In conclusion Japan is doing their own thing that doesn't have much to do with the YF-23 so this is clickbait...
As i said the Airforce is idiots when it comes to Aircraft , the YF 23 was a much more capable fighter that the 22
Revealed WHAT? All talk with nothing to show. BS!
Yess.... Go go Block widow i like this plane.
This rumor has been circulated for years. Its just more click bait....
They chose poorly
Quit lying with the titles.
yawn, clickbait
Both the F-22 and F-23 should have been built and used. And if we didn't keep giving our money away to foreign countries, we would have plenty of money to spend on our own defense.
How can you even say the USA shouldn't give money to Israel, are you anti Semitic ???
Too expense, the YF23 was vastly superior and should have been chosen.
Much of the black widow tech was cross decked into the B21 raider believe it or not.
@@mitchjames9350yet it lost the competition. The internal systems would have been the same, the air force had specs for all internal systems, the contract was for an airframe to house the systems. The YF-22 & YF-23 had none of the systems, they were just to compare the airframes. The YF-22 won out because it was more manuverable.
@@kdrapertruckerand yet in the end, the plane we needed didn't really need to be. The YF22 was chosen for a role that was never really there in this modern world. But hindsight is 20/20. The 23 sure would be helpful now though, with its increased range, internal space and being stealthier. Oh well. At least we can say we have the most badass stealthy fighter in the world lol
I don't like the profile of the yf of 23 trailing edge It looks inherently unstable which maybe can be compensated for with computer stabilization but why? And if the control surfaces are constantly correcting for instability, it could become actually less efficient. Plus if anything happened It would go into an uncontrolled tumble.
It is indeed less safe from a static stabilizing design, but there are a couple of advantages. An inherently unstable design can allow for faster control response. Whether that is the case with this aircraft I don't know, but it would not surprise me. The trade-off with small adjustments compared to a self-stabilized design is to a "flying wing's" benefit for fuel efficiency. While this aircraft isn't a pure flying wing, I think the correct term is "blended wing," it does have parallels. I'm not an expert; I'm relaying what I've seen on the subject myself. Here's a few videos I found interesting: th-cam.com/video/dByvPIyIbZE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/59A8-rKRs-0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/1EpPdI7Tyb8/w-d-xo.html
The YF23 is definitely more aesthetically pleasing than the F22. It should be revived and brought out of hibernation.
Politics are always Dirty, I've always backed The Black Widow. 😉
LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE... "Do you think the YF-23 will return..." Iis the last sentence. CLICK BAIT!!!
Completely Misleading Title!!
The YF-23, by all measure seems to be the most even match for the J-20.
F22 is far superior to the J20 as well.
Fake/False report!!! Japanese MOD has abandoned co-development with the US military. The MOD has selected British GCAP consortium for Mitsubishi F-3 development. Stop this nonsense!
Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) has the F35 onboard modified helicopter carriers, Izumo-class destroyers. Do they have a need to resurrect, the plane that failed to the Raptor?
I'd say. Move to seventh Gen
Or 9 the gen
So……no real substance regarding Japan taking on the YF23, just rehash of old footage and nothing new 🤦🏼♂️
Clickbait
Lots of bad info here.
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YF 23 was a superior aircraft and due to BS politics we got stuck with the lesser aircraft.
Why on earth is this asinine claim still being tossed around?
No kidding. The YF23 wont be back in any form.
Click bait. Had nothing about Japan's "YF-23" fighter. Thumbs down.
Another click bate
Stop using f-14 and other irrelevant video when speaking to the YF-22/23