Wow, the ability to run it un parallel with other FX is such a powerful thing! I really did not regret taking the time to learn Reaper. I am now confident that I can now leave Logic and use this powerful DAW as my main.
Just wow! This basically moves all this parallel routing, side chaining and adding FX tracks to the FX section, just without tracks. Damn! This really tidies up the trackspace. Great feature! Today I finally purchased a licence after using it for free much too long, sorry for that. Such a great developer has to be supported!
Thanks as always Kenny it would be great if you could add like 7+ to your thumbnails when the videos are covering a new version feature, it would just make it easier to identify when you are first covering a new version feature for the first time 💯👍
great examples. However the script "Paranormal FX Router" made by Sexan on Cockos forum, makes these exact operations in a more 2023ish and ergonomic way. It's what all of us expected to have as container, because it's damn intuitive and clear at glance (ergonomy). I already use it and I hope one day it will be native.
Tried to read about it in the forum finally gave up and just waited for this video from Kenny.😂 I think the ability to automate the container looks interesting.
Tips in this video helped me bring life into a bass that sounded too compressed and boxy. I ran 2 containers in parallel.. Container 1 has an EQ with a high pass filter cutting everything below 100Hz/24dB slope. I also used an Expander to bring back some of the dynamics. And another EQ cutting 310Hz and boosting 2kHz. Container 2 has the same EQ (lo pass filter) cutting everything above 100Hz/24dB slope, and a Compressor for taming the low end. Now the bass sounds more rounder, fuller, and sits so much better in the mix. Thank you!🙏🏾
deeper but not really better when you can already use nested tracks for that purpose... it's something that newbies may think they cannot live without it while people who knows Reaper already know they didn't need that feature but bugs fixed instead
The FX containers is so fun. I just experimenting with this today and it's amazing for workflow and track condensing. I no longer have to do multiple tracks blended together for parallel fx that send to one or more fx at the end (the combined signal). i'm currently using it for blending guitar cabinet tones, with the time adjustment delay JS plugin I can delay one of the IR's by a few samples to make the phase alignment better. No external plugins needed, just 2 or more instances of ReaVerb with the IR's loaded. Fantastic!! REAPER continues to be the best DAW out there. And happy Holidays :)
This shit here saves me at least one extra channel on the mixer based on the complexity of the tone. Hell...just thinking about it, I probably don't even have to sub things and just do all the FX processing on the FX section. Fuck. I gotta try this. Thanks Kenny and Reaper. Reaper 4 lyfe.
Awesome features! I need to get used to it I guess cause I have a certain workflow. I will consider it using. I also love the new Reaper 7 Default theme!
It's already super cool that Reacomp has a wet/dry for easy parallel compression, but this new addition of a container to parallel process a whole chain is just beautiful. I wonder what effect PDC has in this situation... hmmm. Time to investigate!
i guess i will open my dusty creaky wallet for the new license . i knew it was coming but time has flown . the price is still "not so much" for what you get imo . thanks Kenny for all you do .
it's not so much until you go to pay and realize they omitted telling you how big taxes are added to that initial amount... I should have refused lol, because I cannot use it, it's buggy, and I can't make it my own, nor anybody else's. It's great, no doubt, but if you start tweaking it a bit, it's doom
Really shoudn't need to have a Plugin inserted before Parallel ones to make that feature work, not sure why Reaper devs did that, maybe im missing something. Seems bit strange to have to put plugin in as a dummy fx to do the parallel thing. Other then that, both new features are great additions.
Cool enough I guess. Though I don’t see the difference between this and sending to an FX track. And to me, I can see a lot better what is going on using a track with the parallel processing on it rather than embedded in the FX container. Am I missing something?
Right. If it was another DAW may be it would be useful, but why in Reaper? In fact I expected many improvements in some other areas that I guess will never come... Meanwhile I had to switch to a different DAW because every time I wanted to tweak the layout to make Reaper "my own" it ended up showing bugs everywhere. But the track nesting in Reaper, no matter Audio or Midi is one of Reaper's strengths, no need for this and much clearer the other way. For sure better than using Buses, but with nested tracks? Why? I just cannot use Reaper due to bugs. I spend more time clicking everywhere else in Reaper than the time I would save by the good Reaper features. It's a pity because my License is still payed and up to date, but unused.
I have to agree as well. I don't see myself using this. You can just put all the parallel effects on a sperate track, nest it, and then you have the exact same effect but much more visually clear and with a fader for mixing instead of the tiny knob. I would even argue that it's faster to set it up that way.
I hope later they add macro knobs and stuff, catching up with Bitwig and Ableton's racks and modulators. To have a single automatable knob which maps to more than one parameter would be great, and would have a lot of scope. For example so that a full turn of a knob maps a parameter between say 0.1 and 0.2. Perhaps even have two macros, one for large scale changes, and one for fine tuning the same parameter. (Imagine being to use a JSFX like script to combine the values of some macro knobs, and then generate parameter changes.) I dream of this stuff a lot.
I was searching for something like that, and as almost always, there is a workaround for that, a simple jsfx with knobs just for use as a macro controller, but the main idea is that, you can use param ->param modulation/midi link -> link from midi or fx parameter to work as a macro control here(just remove spaces) https ://w ww. youtube .com /watch? v=kqXRrMaOSMs
@@lunakamusic1315 Such mappings are not part of the containers. What Ableton Racks/Groups provide is macros that control the contents of the group, and which are saved and loaded as part of the group/container.
Basically a good idea... But like the freeze function, if you have many tracks, you lose track where FX are frozen and over the new containers. Without an icon per track (TCP(MCP), indicating a freeze/FX-container, I think it's more or less useless. At least for me. It's the main reason I almost never use the freezing... But thank you for your video !
+1 I was hoping so bad for a solution that would allow us to keep track over all the frozen FX. I think fx-containers is one of the...well, er, not so good ideas they came up with.
Freezing is for pussays. Rendering is a better way. There is also a SWS extension called "track render within selection". Then put all fx offline and mute the track, and hide the track if you wish. But this way, you can very quickly see exactly what is going on or revert back without it costing any resources. Same thing, just easier to see. :).
What would be cool is if they added a checkbox in the fx manager for oversampling specific fx. I know you can suggest something good to them. I recently when down the aliasing rabbit hole and found oversampling drastically improves my mix with specific plugins but unfortunately the workflow of the right clicking on the fx is not only a pain, but going back to a mix with oversampling turned on too many times for the cpu requires going back and undoing all of it. A single oversampling manager "fx docker" or something would be amazing. I know they have the fx manager but it still requires a lot of right clicks and is completely unintuitive as far as which plugins are being oversampled.
Kenny, can any of the dry/wet controls be controlled by a vac? I could have a set of vcas that control the wet/dry mix to taste as needed through out a performance. I suspect they could also be automated.
This is great!!.....question i have is how would i set the container to pre fader? If imyteying to parallel compress a vocal aux would i need to do it to the unprocessed signal?
Nice. I was using Blue Cat’s PatchWork but this will make it much easier. Do the plugins going into the container have to be one after the other or can they be out of order. fo example plugin 1 is in container 2 is original path and 3 is in the same container as plugin 1?
This is a game changer much like waves audio's StudioRack multiband functionality. If you have opportunity to use stock plugins to deal with bands of frequencies, you can achieve almost anything. No need for fancy plugins. Just imagine you could add a delay to a certain frequency band while you add pitch shift to another band! Then blend all this with the original signal! We are in 2023 and nobody had ever thought about this before! It's a shame! All they want is to sell to us their fancy multiband processors!!!!
I didn't know you could see the Likes timeline in TH-cam. In my case I use to browse in private and when I like a video after watching it, I think the author at least deserves a like, so I open the link in my non-private browser, like it and close it again
What if you want to run an electric guitar chain (amp sim, eq, etc.) through two different speaker IRs to simulate a speaker cabinet with two different kinds of speakers that are each mic'd separately? So you want each IR loader to receive the signal previous to it in parallel (i.e., you don't want the first speaker IR to then run through the second speaker IR). Then, after the IRs, you want the two parallel IR signals to get merged back together on the way out to the master fader. Is that possible to do?
Hello there! I am trying to replicate the fx chain you have with the filter and modulation, round about 8:26 in the video. I am blind, and not sure if the details of how the entire fx chain looks like, is detailed on screen.. Do you have presets or a tutorial on how to replicate this sudo Leslie modulation? I do not say sudo to discount the effect, but because of its slow oscillation, which resembles very much to what I'm looking for. Typical Leslie emulations I've come across are much faster, with many artefacts for more genuine sounding audio. I'm looking for what you have on the video. :) Thanks!
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Is it possible to do parallel compression in the same track without doing a send to another track?
Will the "Theme Adjuster" be changed for Reaper 7? Now, in the default theme for Reaper7, I cannot choose which elements will be displayed on the tracks, but can only select a ready-made layout.
Can someone point me in the right direction for creating that 'Filter Mod' chain that Sir Kenneth uses from 8:26 onwards? Thanks. P.S Great video as always my man!
click the Frequency knob then click Param button -> Parameter modulation/MIDI link in the pop-up window enable LFO checkbox configure to taste Kenny has a video showcasing the setup
if I could have a consistent and clean layout or a few of them to switch back and forth, but no, no, no, bugs ate me, and I had to buy one more DAW license
I don't want to complain, but for anyone else out there who always ends up swearing at these videos, I tried the user manual today and that's what I'll be doing from now onward'
Why do you use EQ to split the signal by frequency, when you've said previously to use splitters instead of EQ to avoid phasing problems? (See : "Splitting Bass for FX Processing" th-cam.com/video/U_TshbcD0LI/w-d-xo.html) ? Can you use splitters for this new workflow? I tired but couldn't get it to work... but I'm a n00b so... Thanks do much for your work. I'd be lost w/o you.
reaper never stops suprising me, thank you
Wow, the ability to run it un parallel with other FX is such a powerful thing! I really did not regret taking the time to learn Reaper. I am now confident that I can now leave Logic and use this powerful DAW as my main.
Containers are also perfect for auditioning different FX chains
Just wow! This basically moves all this parallel routing, side chaining and adding FX tracks to the FX section, just without tracks. Damn! This really tidies up the trackspace. Great feature!
Today I finally purchased a licence after using it for free much too long, sorry for that. Such a great developer has to be supported!
Thanks as always Kenny it would be great if you could add like 7+ to your thumbnails when the videos are covering a new version feature, it would just make it easier to identify when you are first covering a new version feature for the first time 💯👍
great examples. However the script "Paranormal FX Router" made by Sexan on Cockos forum, makes these exact operations in a more 2023ish and ergonomic way. It's what all of us expected to have as container, because it's damn intuitive and clear at glance (ergonomy). I already use it and I hope one day it will be native.
Thanks for letting us know 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you for this info!
Yeah. much better than the native way.
I think to be fair they have been putting the infrastructure in place to expand this out perhaps later.
Thank you! I will definitely use this script - looks incredible!
Nice I just upgraded to V7, having these will save on adding extra tracks to perform parallel compressions etc. Giving a less clutteres screen :)
I need to watch this about 10 more times to learn all the lessons in this one video 😂.
i really consider this game changing. Thanks a lot, Kenny for another fantastic tutorial.
Kenny, thank you for sharing such a wealth of knowledge. You’ve taken an ordinary guitar track and made it magical. You’re an incredibly talented guy.
Tried to read about it in the forum finally gave up and just waited for this video from Kenny.😂
I think the ability to automate the container looks interesting.
This is amazing! My kids are looking at me like I'm crazy as I'm geeking out over this.
always changing the game kenny. Great video
Tips in this video helped me bring life into a bass that sounded too compressed and boxy.
I ran 2 containers in parallel..
Container 1 has an EQ with a high pass filter cutting everything below 100Hz/24dB slope. I also used an Expander to bring back some of the dynamics. And another EQ cutting 310Hz and boosting 2kHz.
Container 2 has the same EQ (lo pass filter) cutting everything above 100Hz/24dB slope, and a Compressor for taming the low end.
Now the bass sounds more rounder, fuller, and sits so much better in the mix.
Thank you!🙏🏾
Reaper just got deeper
The learning curve just got steeper
But you won't find many DAWs that are cheaper
REAPER just got reapper
deeper but not really better when you can already use nested tracks for that purpose... it's something that newbies may think they cannot live without it while people who knows Reaper already know they didn't need that feature but bugs fixed instead
This feature is a real sleeper
Nice dude. Every time I watch your videos I feel I've learned a gamechanger.
Awesome feature. Awesome presentation. Thanks Kenny
Thats a very nice addition to Reaper, thanks for showing us!
That's some cool things to do in Reaper. Thanks Kenny!!
Great video. This is fantastic for stacking AA nebula pre/comp/eq/clip instances 💥💥💥
This is definitely going to help my workflow. What a great feature!
Truly a lifesaver 💙
The FX containers is so fun. I just experimenting with this today and it's amazing for workflow and track condensing. I no longer have to do multiple tracks blended together for parallel fx that send to one or more fx at the end (the combined signal). i'm currently using it for blending guitar cabinet tones, with the time adjustment delay JS plugin I can delay one of the IR's by a few samples to make the phase alignment better. No external plugins needed, just 2 or more instances of ReaVerb with the IR's loaded. Fantastic!!
REAPER continues to be the best DAW out there.
And happy Holidays :)
This shit here saves me at least one extra channel on the mixer based on the complexity of the tone. Hell...just thinking about it, I probably don't even have to sub things and just do all the FX processing on the FX section. Fuck.
I gotta try this. Thanks Kenny and Reaper. Reaper 4 lyfe.
Thanks for your video, it's really helping to comprehend the new features
That`s a real improvement in workflow!
Awesome features! I need to get used to it I guess cause I have a certain workflow. I will consider it using. I also love the new Reaper 7 Default theme!
Reaper is doing great things. I have been hopping for this feature.
This is FANTASTIC! Thanks, man!
Great demo. Thank you.
Pretty cool stuff!
Great tutorial man. Thanks for sharing! 🤘
awaiting the track lanes video!
Amazing stuff
A really useful addition.
Cool update.
But couldn't we already have done something similar by adjusting the track channels in/outs and using a joiner?
I’ve been waiting for it!! Thanks!
fun thing you did there
Thank you Kenny !
Very nice this FX Container and thanks for your tutorial :-)
A really usefull upgrade!
so containers are basically like efx rack in ableton that is really awesome!!!
Wuuha! Thanks Kenny thanks Cockos!
Great Feature!
It'll save me so much time
It's already super cool that Reacomp has a wet/dry for easy parallel compression, but this new addition of a container to parallel process a whole chain is just beautiful.
I wonder what effect PDC has in this situation... hmmm.
Time to investigate!
i guess i will open my dusty creaky wallet for the new license . i knew it was coming but time has flown . the price is still "not so much" for what you get imo . thanks Kenny for all you do .
it's not so much until you go to pay and realize they omitted telling you how big taxes are added to that initial amount... I should have refused lol, because I cannot use it, it's buggy, and I can't make it my own, nor anybody else's. It's great, no doubt, but if you start tweaking it a bit, it's doom
As always writing a comment to support the channel
finally we have parallel processing!
This is going to change my life!
That filtered delay sounds awesome! Had a go at recreating it and hmmmmm thats why you are the pro and I'm not :)
Thank you so much. This is really useful.
Really shoudn't need to have a Plugin inserted before Parallel ones to make that feature work, not sure why Reaper devs did that, maybe im missing something. Seems bit strange to have to put plugin in as a dummy fx to do the parallel thing. Other then that, both new features are great additions.
i'm thought the same about the dummy fx, but a simple jsfx can solve that i guess
You have to do the same thing when you set up a parallel chain in Waves Studio Rack as well..
This seems like a game changer.
Pro Tools won't have this innovation for 20 years
Very nice :)
Cool enough I guess. Though I don’t see the difference between this and sending to an FX track. And to me, I can see a lot better what is going on using a track with the parallel processing on it rather than embedded in the FX container. Am I missing something?
Agree
Right. If it was another DAW may be it would be useful, but why in Reaper? In fact I expected many improvements in some other areas that I guess will never come... Meanwhile I had to switch to a different DAW because every time I wanted to tweak the layout to make Reaper "my own" it ended up showing bugs everywhere. But the track nesting in Reaper, no matter Audio or Midi is one of Reaper's strengths, no need for this and much clearer the other way. For sure better than using Buses, but with nested tracks? Why? I just cannot use Reaper due to bugs. I spend more time clicking everywhere else in Reaper than the time I would save by the good Reaper features. It's a pity because my License is still payed and up to date, but unused.
I have to agree as well. I don't see myself using this. You can just put all the parallel effects on a sperate track, nest it, and then you have the exact same effect but much more visually clear and with a fader for mixing instead of the tiny knob. I would even argue that it's faster to set it up that way.
You can run fx in parallel without the container. It cleans up the transport a bit and its faster
The video everyone has been waiting for.
Wait for the video nesting FX containers once and again lol
That EQ curve looks like a Jawa. Utini!
I hope later they add macro knobs and stuff, catching up with Bitwig and Ableton's racks and modulators. To have a single automatable knob which maps to more than one parameter would be great, and would have a lot of scope. For example so that a full turn of a knob maps a parameter between say 0.1 and 0.2. Perhaps even have two macros, one for large scale changes, and one for fine tuning the same parameter. (Imagine being to use a JSFX like script to combine the values of some macro knobs, and then generate parameter changes.) I dream of this stuff a lot.
I was searching for something like that, and as almost always, there is a workaround for that,
a simple jsfx with knobs just for use as a macro controller,
but the main idea is that, you can use
param ->param modulation/midi link -> link from midi or fx parameter
to work as a macro control
here(just remove spaces)
https ://w ww. youtube .com /watch? v=kqXRrMaOSMs
Not having macros is def weak
it's possible with "Mapping Panel" from MPL in ReaPack, no?
@@lunakamusic1315 i didn't know about that script from MPL, and yeah it works very well, thank you!!
@@lunakamusic1315 Such mappings are not part of the containers. What Ableton Racks/Groups provide is macros that control the contents of the group, and which are saved and loaded as part of the group/container.
Learning bit by bit, every day
감사합니다❤❤❤
Thnx Kenny 🎼💙😉👍🏽
Basically a good idea... But like the freeze function, if you have many tracks, you lose track where FX are frozen and over the new containers. Without an icon per track (TCP(MCP), indicating a freeze/FX-container, I think it's more or less useless. At least for me. It's the main reason I almost never use the freezing...
But thank you for your video !
+1 I was hoping so bad for a solution that would allow us to keep track over all the frozen FX. I think fx-containers is one of the...well, er, not so good ideas they came up with.
Freezing is for pussays. Rendering is a better way. There is also a SWS extension called "track render within selection". Then put all fx offline and mute the track, and hide the track if you wish. But this way, you can very quickly see exactly what is going on or revert back without it costing any resources. Same thing, just easier to see. :).
GENIAL.
Great.. thank
What would be cool is if they added a checkbox in the fx manager for oversampling specific fx. I know you can suggest something good to them. I recently when down the aliasing rabbit hole and found oversampling drastically improves my mix with specific plugins but unfortunately the workflow of the right clicking on the fx is not only a pain, but going back to a mix with oversampling turned on too many times for the cpu requires going back and undoing all of it. A single oversampling manager "fx docker" or something would be amazing. I know they have the fx manager but it still requires a lot of right clicks and is completely unintuitive as far as which plugins are being oversampled.
Cool
Really cool. So are parallel fx also a nicer way instead of using fx busses?
yes it better then the old 3-4, 5-6 routing for parallel
Kenny, can any of the dry/wet controls be controlled by a vac? I could have a set of vcas that control the wet/dry mix to taste as needed through out a performance. I suspect they could also be automated.
Wow. Great video Kenny and great new v7 feature. Does this mean that bussing to separate tracks may now be a thing of the past for many jobs?
I think so! each container is like its own track FX chain, which can have its own send effect and effect processing.
How did you do your filter modulating? Have you a video about it ?
This is great!!.....question i have is how would i set the container to pre fader? If imyteying to parallel compress a vocal aux would i need to do it to the unprocessed signal?
Kinda like Ableton racks
are containers supported in FX chains?
Nice. I was using Blue Cat’s PatchWork but this will make it much easier. Do the plugins going into the container have to be one after the other or can they be out of order. fo example plugin 1 is in container 2 is original path and 3 is in the same container as plugin 1?
This is a game changer much like waves audio's StudioRack multiband functionality. If you have opportunity to use stock plugins to deal with bands of frequencies, you can achieve almost anything. No need for fancy plugins. Just imagine you could add a delay to a certain frequency band while you add pitch shift to another band! Then blend all this with the original signal! We are in 2023 and nobody had ever thought about this before! It's a shame! All they want is to sell to us their fancy multiband processors!!!!
What? You could do this before
This video already has 5 likes before it even started. There are at least 5 clairvoyant Reaper users. Cool.
We already know it's going to be helpful and are expressing thanks in advance
I didn't know you could see the Likes timeline in TH-cam. In my case I use to browse in private and when I like a video after watching it, I think the author at least deserves a like, so I open the link in my non-private browser, like it and close it again
Is there a way to sidchain a container effect to the main sound? Thanks.
Is there way to group effects from different tracks and change the effect settings from one location?
Awesome
What if you want to run an electric guitar chain (amp sim, eq, etc.) through two different speaker IRs to simulate a speaker cabinet with two different kinds of speakers that are each mic'd separately? So you want each IR loader to receive the signal previous to it in parallel (i.e., you don't want the first speaker IR to then run through the second speaker IR). Then, after the IRs, you want the two parallel IR signals to get merged back together on the way out to the master fader. Is that possible to do?
so after a parallel container, if i add one effect, it won't affect the parallel container right?
Hello there!
I am trying to replicate the fx chain you have with the filter and modulation, round about 8:26 in the video. I am blind, and not sure if the details of how the entire fx chain looks like, is detailed on screen..
Do you have presets or a tutorial on how to replicate this sudo Leslie modulation? I do not say sudo to discount the effect, but because of its slow oscillation, which resembles very much to what I'm looking for. Typical Leslie emulations I've come across are much faster, with many artefacts for more genuine sounding audio.
I'm looking for what you have on the video. :)
Thanks!
Is it possible to do parallel compression in the same track without doing a send to another track?
So bye bye to fx tracks and routing then...?
Can u tell me how to adjust the cockos plugin theme knob?
SHOW US HOW YOU MADE THAT FILTER PLEASE 8:39
Will the "Theme Adjuster" be changed for Reaper 7?
Now, in the default theme for Reaper7, I cannot choose which elements will be displayed on the tracks, but can only select a ready-made layout.
it's in the works
because it's bugged, the whole user interface, since Reaper 6...
This fx container still lacks 8x macro buttons with editable names. Also L/R signal routing between plugins should be available
why does it need macro buttons?
Can someone point me in the right direction for creating that 'Filter Mod' chain that Sir Kenneth uses from 8:26 onwards? Thanks.
P.S Great video as always my man!
click the Frequency knob
then click Param button -> Parameter modulation/MIDI link
in the pop-up window enable LFO checkbox
configure to taste
Kenny has a video showcasing the setup
@@ARE_YOU_SICK_OF_YT_CENSORSHIP thank you 🙏
!!!
I think cockos has taken the right direction.
i do kindly request you to do a video on how to go about mixing in dolby atmos in reaper
F Pro tools , Reaper all day everyday
reaper is good for programmers /engineers
if I could have a consistent and clean layout or a few of them to switch back and forth, but no, no, no, bugs ate me, and I had to buy one more DAW license
parallel containers dont seem to work if in another container. its not parellel
I don't want to complain, but for anyone else out there who always ends up swearing at these videos, I tried the user manual today and that's what I'll be doing from now onward'
Is Reaper 7 straight from heaven?
Here I just bought Efx MOTIONS and now its built into reaper
Why do you use EQ to split the signal by frequency, when you've said previously to use splitters instead of EQ to avoid phasing problems? (See : "Splitting Bass for FX Processing" th-cam.com/video/U_TshbcD0LI/w-d-xo.html) ?
Can you use splitters for this new workflow? I tired but couldn't get it to work... but I'm a n00b so...
Thanks do much for your work. I'd be lost w/o you.
It's just an example on how to use that FX Container feature so that everyone can easily identify by watching and listening to