5-0! UNSTOPABLE 8 Lizard Madness! Legacy Magic: the Gathering isn't ready for this tech!

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  • 5-0! UNSTOPABLE 8 Lizard Madness! Legacy Magic: the Gathering isn't ready for this tech!
    In this Magic: the Gathering Online Legacy league, Phil battles with an 8 Lizard Madness deck. Basking Rootwalla, Blazing Rootwalla, and Anje's Ravager all can be casted for a discount if you discard them! We use theses to fuel powerful aggressive starts as well as trigger Vengevines. We've also got Anger for when you need to go FAST!
    0:00 Deck Tech
    3:12 vs Esper Control
    17:18 vs GW Depths
    31:23 vs GW Depths
    39:37 vs UG Omni
    51:18 vs Elves
    1:06:52 Conclusion
    Decklist: www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4083...
    Donation info: www.thrabenuniversity.com/?pag...
    Twitter: / thrabenu
    Podcast: www.theeternalglorypodcast.com/
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  • @EGarrett01
    @EGarrett01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    49:54 I like that you said your opponent's turn 1 play of island Preordain was scary then you put in 9-power worth of attackers on your own turn 1.

  • @jojosouma809
    @jojosouma809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I know you had no way to tell but your opponent on round 3 was actually on Mono G Cloudpost, they're into_play, a dedicated Cloudpost player. They got pressured so hard by what the deck was doing that the Cloudpost part of the deck wasn't able to show up in time.
    Also I loved to see the deck in action, I'm a Hogaak player and one of the things I like the most about the deck is putting a ton of power into the board as early as turn 2, seeing a deck being able to do that while (almost) completely ignoring graveyard interaction is amazing! I'll definitely be trying it out.

    • @JimmyPage9208
      @JimmyPage9208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cool that someone else noticed it. I follow Tony and he is a great player. I really like his calm play style and am glad that he consistently does well with the deck, like his recent challenge win.
      I think him and the deck would benefit a lot from edited, straight to youtube, videos instead of just dumping the stream.

    • @rutasel6726
      @rutasel6726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it would be super cool if he brought tony on for like a cloudpost stream/league :)

  • @FineAndAndy
    @FineAndAndy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This deck was really cool. At 43:49, I've been so conditioned by watching you always call plays ahead of time that I really thought we were about to watch that exact sequence of events play out.
    At the end you mentioned that this deck was sort of a glass cannon, but unlike, e.g., Belcher, it seems like you get to refire with very little wait time. Any Looting, Inquiry, Ravager, Ox, etc. seems like it ends up with multiple creatures in play from nothing. If I had to guess, playing this deck would lead to a lot of salty "nice topdeck"s in chat, when really it's just the way the deck is designed to operate.

  • @shhhvcnear
    @shhhvcnear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You know the deck has that x factor when you get 10 power on turn one and crack a lions eye diamond for the discard only and dont even use the 3 mana from it xD

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, yeah, I think people need to counter LED every time vs this.

  • @JuanGarcia-rg2sd
    @JuanGarcia-rg2sd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Always happy to see a 5-0 in the title, even if it is slightly spoilery :P

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was happy to finally pick up a trophy. There have been SO MANY 4-1s recently that fell just short.

    • @LucksackGames
      @LucksackGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThrabenUniversity Grats! Looking forward to watching.

  • @ekuude
    @ekuude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Greatly appreciate all the uploads recently! MH2 has injected so much fun into the game

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is one of my favorite periods of Magic EVER. It's been so fun testing all this new stuff.

  • @impendio
    @impendio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think this has to be the fastest 5-0 league you’ve uploaded, damn this deck is strong…

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The version with black might be even better...

  • @alliehjb.5927
    @alliehjb.5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just like charbelcher is the peoples cannon, Phil is the peoples hero

  • @Toblakai77
    @Toblakai77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    like just for the Iron Maiden reference at the start

  • @froiDchaT
    @froiDchaT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought in a meta with Endurance (sometimes main deck) and 4+ FoW effects main deck in UR delver or Bant control that this deck will struggle but seeing the 8 lizards in action (especially the new red one) it seems that it might be more resilient to such effects than I thought at first. I love those little critters :)

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I think this deck is pretty darn resilient. It's harder to hate on than you might expect at first glance.

  • @Sir_Francis
    @Sir_Francis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I'm here to do the thing, & I did the thing"
    Cheers to that!

  • @mountainwalk
    @mountainwalk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The little lizards that could. This deck looks awesome. Really interesting games Phil!

  • @aryabiss9445
    @aryabiss9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Daily thrabenU serotonin incoming!

  • @MaxMckayful
    @MaxMckayful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always love the brand of wacky base Gruul decks seem to constantly support in eternal formats.

  • @georgecolby7488
    @georgecolby7488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid Iron Maiden impression in the opener. Nice. I think Kitchen imp is the mh2 madness creature you were thinking of in the deck tech.

  • @QuentinColdman
    @QuentinColdman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really love seeing u play my list from the challenge. Thx 4 the video

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved it! I'm not sure if the list is better with the imp and other black cards, but this general strategy is STRONG!

    • @QuentinColdman
      @QuentinColdman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I'm still testing to find the best variant of the deck, but I love to see how much the deck is played atm

  • @lucassbanks
    @lucassbanks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In an aggro deck Anger is a time walk .... well, kinda. Ok it's not but you get my point.

  • @Janshevik
    @Janshevik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you took this deck as bosh was too afraid or something, I remember he was destroyed by this deck on some of his videos.

  • @lydia9822
    @lydia9822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd been thinking the madness deck had the legs to get there since we first saw blazing rootwalla, glad to see just how right I was, this deck is great!

  • @willjoyce5013
    @willjoyce5013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fun counter to Tabernacle for decks like this is Gaea's Cradle out of the SB, lets you use 1 land to in essence blank Tabernacle

  • @idlemindedmage6925
    @idlemindedmage6925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic Video! The deck seems like it had many little lizardy legs!

  • @jordanwoosley1861
    @jordanwoosley1861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was sweet! I have Bosh and Roll streaming my Hogaak Hollowvine brew of mine soon.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! Brian has been doing great work. I watch a bit of his videos over lunch when I have time.

  • @robinsvensen1324
    @robinsvensen1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE the intro!

  • @TalenLee
    @TalenLee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No avocado in the shot, immediately downvoted
    Good lord this deck is like throwing bottle rockets in your opponent's window.
    ... feels like you may have different opinions on anger

  • @nessearthbound3107
    @nessearthbound3107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This deck looks so sick! I've never really wanted to play Legacy before but this deck really makes me want to lol

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The format is a blast. Proxy some decks up and try it with a friend at some point!

  • @carrikmcnerlin1770
    @carrikmcnerlin1770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instant thumbs up because you unlocked a Core Memory(tm) with the Maiden reference

  • @UlfMTG
    @UlfMTG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have to call this 8 Walla

  • @majormartintibor
    @majormartintibor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GG! Very fun deck!

  • @SirGrimLockSmithVIII
    @SirGrimLockSmithVIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah hell yeah I new Blazing Rootwalla would be sik in something.

  • @graefx
    @graefx ปีที่แล้ว

    The most dangerous phrases in the English language:
    "This seems good"
    "Siiiick"

  • @danielwhite1890
    @danielwhite1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly only card I'd add is rite of initiation, its a t1 hand with just rootwalla effects and an anger

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow, that card is potentially strong.

    • @danielwhite1890
      @danielwhite1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a line I used to run in a Cheerios list. 4 rootwalla, 1 anger, 1 rite, when your playing a deck that draws your whole deck in one turn pretty often it's a solid kill

    • @kyleucf
      @kyleucf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spicy.

  • @mattc2735
    @mattc2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    iron maiden cover channel when?

  • @zga042
    @zga042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The MH2 card is Kitchen Imp, 2/2 flying haste with madness for B

  • @tomneilson9501
    @tomneilson9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In honour of the other 8 decks in this fine game and the many species of lizards, I would like to start a petition to rename this deck 8-Lagac

  • @billschlichting7433
    @billschlichting7433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dammit Phil, just watched and then rushed to buy the cards to play this deck. With so many new cards and fun brews, I have no idea what I am going to try first.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome? It's a good problem to have. MH2 Legacy is so fun. Recording with all these crazy brews has made my summer.

  • @hugo.bonfatti
    @hugo.bonfatti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LED... Good Magic card

  • @Generic42
    @Generic42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t play legacy, love watching your vids though. I’m slowly considering making a legacy deck and I blame you 😂

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If nothing else, proxy up and the format with a friend! It's a blast!

  • @matthewjoslin6777
    @matthewjoslin6777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8- Walla. Love it

  • @Windowlick_
    @Windowlick_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like Foundation Breaker would be a good addition to the board in this deck since you can find it off of OUaT

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ran into that in a Modern league yesterday in a Living End deck. It caught me off guard.

    • @froggywoggy473
      @froggywoggy473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feels like masked vandal would be better just given the graveyard synergy? Not sure

  • @grizzlymanverneteil4443
    @grizzlymanverneteil4443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GET EM LIZARD

  • @willjoyce5013
    @willjoyce5013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    34:50 why cast the Rootwalla with the Mountain over keeping up mana for say Daze if it was free anyway with the LED? Just worth considering to me lol

  • @Moersfreak
    @Moersfreak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not really sure why this two year old video got recommended to me today (other than the fact that I watch A LOT of your videos), but I'm sure glad it did.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That one was a BANGER and I still remember it.

  • @koboldgeorge2140
    @koboldgeorge2140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This deck has SO many of my pet cards

  • @Bloodywolf11
    @Bloodywolf11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Madness?? This. Is. Lizards!

  • @Locustnism
    @Locustnism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other than LED most of the other cards are affordable on paper. Do you think there can be anyway around it in terms of replacing LED?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For a big tournament, I'd try to borrow them. For an FNN, you could replace it with another discard outlet and survive.

  • @nicomillhouse
    @nicomillhouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LEDs allow so many decks, sweet

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, absolutely. It's the "broken thing" behind a ton of archetypes.

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The deck is the epitome of brute force

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% It's a true aggro deck in Legacy, which is rare.

  • @__loafy__
    @__loafy__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anger is cute

  • @releasethe01
    @releasethe01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hogaak might be nice here once you add more black creatures

  • @silverdeathgamer2907
    @silverdeathgamer2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it worth running a run afoul in the sideboard to deal with Marit lage and Emrakul or is the chance that you will end up discarding it mean it doesn't justify inclusion?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a solid option. I'm not sure if the deck needs it though. I think the plan against those decks is "kill them first."

  • @adamhofman7412
    @adamhofman7412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You sound like MagicAids, without overmemeing his voice :O

    • @adamhofman7412
      @adamhofman7412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hooray

    • @adamhofman7412
      @adamhofman7412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and you have similar thumbnail style thrabenu=magicaids - CONFIRMED

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adamhofman7412 I respect the tin foil hat theories.

  • @nefola
    @nefola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you could play brawn or wonder over anger if it seems weak

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I'm more interested in trying the black madness cards next!

  • @froggywoggy473
    @froggywoggy473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a reason you didn't madness rootwalla on end step at 26:03? Not that it mattered but it didn't have to be summoning sick right?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were two Vengevines in my graveyard. I wanted to play Rootwalla and Anje's Ravager in the same turn to bring them back.

    • @froggywoggy473
      @froggywoggy473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThrabenUniversity Oh, of course! I missed the main line hahaha

  • @DoKillaEnte
    @DoKillaEnte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey when i am on a budget and i could only afford 1 taiga and 1 badlands which lands would you play instead of the 2 duals?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shocklands, probably. The fastlands might be fine too.

  • @alexgermack197
    @alexgermack197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeeting lizards into play

  • @CptManboobs
    @CptManboobs ปีที่แล้ว

    Needs more Rootwallas

  • @jean-baptistedelabroise5391
    @jean-baptistedelabroise5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hmm seems kinda doable in modern even if the loss of LED is quite a deal

    • @jean-baptistedelabroise5391
      @jean-baptistedelabroise5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh no it misses anger...

    • @DevoBlade
      @DevoBlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modern only had blazing rootwalla. You miss out on 4 extra lizards!

  • @zacharyb2723
    @zacharyb2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said "if it was a tournament I wouldn't have gone all in" - why not? it still wins when they don't have swords. Definitely a flaw in many players games that they are too risk averse when playing high-risk high-impact decks - if the deck is a glass canon, you should be pushing risk to win faster. Sometimes you have to risk losing turn one because its the best overall play. refusing to take risks doesn't help you win more.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This deck doesn't have to be a glass cannon all the time though. You can grind out Vengevine recursion advantage over time, set up draw 3 turns with Anje's Ravager... there's more than just the linear beatdown here.

  • @hardcoreeconomist1089
    @hardcoreeconomist1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MH2 made MTG fun again where MH1 killed it

  • @wheelchairedog
    @wheelchairedog ปีที่แล้ว

    at around 38:36 I don't understand how you can cast hollow one?! You discarded 2 cards, vengevine and blazing rootwalla. After having cast faithless looting, you don't have any mana available, so how can you cast hollow one with a fetchland without cracking it? If you only discarded 2 cards, shouldn't it still cost 1 mana? I'm new to magic* 😅

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  ปีที่แล้ว

      I tapped my fetchland using my opponent's Urborg ability to get the last mana.

    • @wheelchairedog
      @wheelchairedog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThrabenUniversity oh i totally see now🥲 and feel stupid 😅. I will check the entire board next time I don‘t follow something… thank you a lot for your answer! :)

  • @coopervalentine21
    @coopervalentine21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magus of the wheel, anger, diamond eye lion..

    • @coopervalentine21
      @coopervalentine21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add graves tablet for recursion

    • @GatekeeperDatuck
      @GatekeeperDatuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wheel of Misfortune would probably be better than Magus, especially given how high the life totals are compared to the opponents'.

  • @lorenzosbrilla
    @lorenzosbrilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we call it "8walla"?

  • @parkerkoch8108
    @parkerkoch8108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't tell if you are pronouncing it as a meme or not, but Anje is a German name and is pronounced "AHN-yuh". The vowel in "je" is pronounced like the "oo" in "foot" or "soot". :)

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was a cool bit of trivia. You're actually wrong according to WotC though: twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1169665952822120448

    • @parkerkoch8108
      @parkerkoch8108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThrabenUniversity Huh. Today I learned I don't like Innistrad as much as I thought I did 🙃 Guess we were both wrong 😅

  • @olly123451
    @olly123451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vintage Lizards with Bazaar and 8 Rootwallas? Seems very silly.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure various Hogaak Vine decks like that are very good right now.

    • @olly123451
      @olly123451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThrabenUniversity I love this silly lizard, it seems so innocuous, then you tell people "yeah it's an 8 of in one of the best decks in a format where you can play Black Lotus".

  • @kurtgrgelwrx8376
    @kurtgrgelwrx8376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all the nonsense MH2 has enabled
    Madness is easily one of the most fun things I've seen come out of it tho

  • @petergraf3234
    @petergraf3234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Algorithm

  • @Tehcarp
    @Tehcarp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    baleful strix can be destroyed by ancient grudge

  • @wolfgang4488
    @wolfgang4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No offense but you said a little Sus and now im leaving.

  • @jadielfilho1859
    @jadielfilho1859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    O deck é bom mas vc é muito ruim!!!