Letter allegedly signed by Richard Allen is one of the exhibits | Trial Day 4 | DELPHI DEBRIEF
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- 13News uncovered a letter, allegedly signed by Allen and addressed to the warden of the prison he was held at, in the exhibits for the case.
In Delphi, jurors were shown the evidence collected from the scene where Abby and Libby's bodies were found in 2017.
Indiana State Police investigator Brian Olehy continued his testimony Tuesday morning.
Indiana State Police digital forensic examiner Brian Bunner testified on the cellphone extraction of Libby's cellphone, which was found at the crime scene.
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I agree.
So heartbreaking, I remember as a pre-teen/teen going on walks with my friends during the summer and whenever we had breaks from school, we would go exploring in the woods near my house and just joke around taking pictures, this is exactly what Abby and Libby were doing that day. They were doing the thing young girls do with their best friends. One of them told their dad they were ready to get picked up and when he said they’d have to wait a little bit longer she said “okay we will just explore until then”, it’s just so darn cruel that these girls became victims of such a violent crime when all they wanted to do was hang out and enjoy their day off school 💔
Same always use to go for walks in woods when i was young .. cant imagine what they went through..such a nightmare .. poor girls deserve justice !
They were going to meet “Anthony Shots”
@@mattlubas4038 it’s really a nightmare to even think about, I pray they receive the justice they deserve,, it won’t bring them back but at least the person who did it won’t be free to roam the streets and hurt anyone else
@@Noticerofthings💯💥
Yes, thank you for sharing that.
We sadly need cameras almost everywhere to somehow deter these sick predators
"It's been way too long since I heard that voice." 😟 Sending a huge hug to Libby's mom, Carrie. ❤❤❤
Ans abbys
Of course, Anna Williams too. ❤❤❤ This reporter is talking about his interaction with Carrie Timmons.
Ask her to tell more about the book PROMISE NOT TO TELL...please...the book she "dropped" on purpose so she can talk about it...
@@HJcillieleave the family alone, you unhinged, deranged TWAT!
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The fact the state isn't showing the full 43 seconds should be an indictment all on its own.
Right that crazy!
They may be waiting to show it later with another witness or piece of evidence. I don’t agree with the blackout. They could keep the media from showing it until the night time after they are done. I know they want to protect their case but it should also been full transparency for the public.
The lat and long is wrong. Fake
They said the glimpse on video is only a few seconds-frames long. They made still images so BG could be seen more clearly.
Libby was so smart. She knew something was off. She had enough intuition and premonition to start recording on her phone. What a girl. xo RIP Libby and Abby, friends forever in heaven xo.
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Glad she captured it but it seems she was already recording……
……but to get it and the killer not get it…..wow !
She's dead. I wouldn't call that smart. If she was smart, she would've pointed the phone at Bridge Guy and told him the video was being uploaded to her cloud. That would've saved her life.
@@jace15076Children are taught to always obey adults, even if they're scared.
@@13kimosabi13 yeah the killer just kindly left the phone behind what a nice guy come on are you guys that stupid? This is all staged and the family is very involved.
I'm upset that we were not able to view the trial. There were so much of us vested in wanting justice for Abby & Libby! 😢
Particularly as there is damaging comments being made like "Richard Allen looked excited when seeing the girls bodies", really? Only one woman made that claim, the public would like to witness that for themselves, if it is a lie, that’s such a harmful rumour. That’s what happens when trials are conducted in private.
The judge is shady
it will be a guilty verdict. The judge made sure of that. She rejected everything the defense wanted to show but approved everything for the prosecutor. The jury is hearing a skewed side of the story
Lauren Mathais is attending,her channel is hidden true crime ,very trustworthy source of reporting. If you have never heard of her . Hope that helps .😊@@sarahwales6276
The courtroom and the process of justice is not there for our entertainment or to satisfy our curiosity
The defense should use the FBI as a witness and ask why they weren’t allowed to continue with this investigation.
I agree. R.L search warrant mentioned fiber and hair found. So is this the same hair?
Because they have the guilty guy in jail!
Make no mistake… there are demons that walk amongst us.
Yes. We think everyone is like us. But why would anyone do this?
There are I've met some when I was a girl. MARIE from England 🏴🌹
@@marietomkinson5910 - Why? What are you now?
@@teresacorrigan3076 - Don't include me in that we who thinks everybody is like us. No one, I think, is in my tree. I mean - it must be high or low.
Yes in the government mostly
Such an extremely cruel crime.
I guess I agree for the most part
Sin 😭😭😭😭
One of the worst crimes I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about.
I actually remember the day their bodies were found and I probably thought there'd be a quick resolution.
7 years later there's finally a trial and I'm not convinced it's even the right guy...
@@ArthurB26yeah the entire case is unique and not in a good way. It’s terrifying
Yes it was. Disgraceful. Poor Girls.
Many thanks to your producer and co-reporter, Emily Longnecker, for staying out in the cold all night to save you a seat! That’s next-level dedication and I admire her for that.
✨Me too!💗⚖️
Great reporting - better than Law & Crime, et al, imo. Thank you so much for helping to protect the Constitutional integrity of the US court system by ensuring transparency of this important case.
Such good unbiased reporting .
Yes
@@DocBree13 yep, it's at moments like this when you realize how important local reporting is.
@@Libbathegreat😁💗⚖️
I like Hidden True Crime too.
It’s disturbing to me how the witnesses fresh descriptions differ from their claims today.
Welcome to eye witness testimony
@@We_Are_All_Vultures I’d “think” that the freshest description would be the superior version.
At the risk of sounding like fringe science, have they tried hypnosis on the eye witnesses descriptions? Couldn't hurt.
@@sherielowe4256 I agree, to a degree: but, I’d still trust a fresh description over one 7 years afterwards.
Someone got to them...guess who
If I was in solitary confinement day after day I would say almost anything to get out of there. Just saying
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You’d confess to a double murder of children? I doubt that
Wonderful coverage of this case. Top notch reporting.
Appreciate all you are doing to be our eyes and ears in court!
They are leaving so much out. Watch Lawyer Lee
fantastic coverage
thank you for being our eyes and ears in the courtroom.
I swear all the people who worked this case are incompetent, including the judge.
The judge knows exactly what she's doing. Pure evil.
Yes
Yes. My feeling as well
Agreed!!!! It's so suspicious! Along with the investigation mishaps. I think they just want the community to feel safe. I truly feel Mr. Allen is innocent!!!
Thats ISP for ya!
7 years is just so ridiculous. Those girls need justice.
I think Klein told the killer that Libby was going to be there and she brought Abby along. My theory. This was not random
This is real life, not a movie.
Yeah donkey Klein has nothing to do that shit is dead
I think Kline is going to testify
Absolutely not random. 100%.
I agree. The girls were dropped off at 1:49pm, went to the bridge and at 2:13 this day turned into a horrific nightmare. I feel the were planning on meeting someone they knew or met online, that “catfished” them. I think RA is involving but someone was waiting down the hill.
Great Job Bob and Emily ❤I appreciate your sacrifice to bring the news! 😊😊😊
They get paid.
Yeah they dont even que up like everyone else they have someone else do it for them bob literally tweeted that 😄@@slaws2279
@@slaws2279I would not stand out in freezing cold weather in the middle of the night for my job . Well done reporters , and well done for reporting and not dramatising .
@@BlackStump172 I think you would. House payments need to be made and food put on the table.
Great coverage here. The only one I have been following.
There is far better coverage out there so you can determine for yourself. Get off of MSM to find them. Lots of people are in the courtroom and covering this other than the local networks.
A 5'5 man is considered objectively short for a man, it would not be confused as tall.
That is interpretive. To a young teenager, they may have a different definition..
@@francostacy7675 Even as a teenager you know the difference between tall and short 😂
@@francostacy7675Exactly...I know what, as a retired person what I call middle age is very different than my 40 yr old daughter which is very different than my 15 yr old grand-daughter. So much depends on witness perception, male or female, and age.
If anyone had eyes, they would not confuse bridge guy for anyone else than Richard Allen@@Libbathegreat
*5'4 according to his driving license.
Thank you for being there so we can be updated! ❤
Allen has physically changed over the past few years. He has "shriveled."
It says he is 5 4 on his driving license. Had he shriveled more he would be tried by the Hobbit laws.
Immense guilt would do that to you. However, I believe it is more fear of his future.
Being falsely accused and fed psychotic drugs does that too ..
Boots can add inches to your height some .The younger guy is the accomplice who worked with RA to help move the bodies and stage them .That is why there could be two composites and Seven yrs ago people do age as well!
Usually that is a sign of innocence. Jail is a relatively stress free environment- no stress (you’ve been caught) no financial stress etc, all your needs met. People that are innocent struggle against the reality of their incarceration, so they age drastically.
We saw it with David Bain in New Zealand- and I’m not sure about this though. Just what this often means, because I’m sort of inclined to think this was him.
Thank you for great coverage on this trail.
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I feel reasonable doubt creeping in…
Go look at Allen’s daughter and look at Libby and your doubt will vanish.
Without his “confessions” they literally have nothing. In fact so far both sides have proved RA is not the killer.
@@Susiecat24 Okay, Sigmund Frued.
@@heytam7162it’s crazy you come to that conclusion. Lmao you need to open your eyes
I feel like they just picked someone to persecute because it was such a big story and they had no leads.
Confessed to the killings 60 + times but is innocent until proven guilty ??????? Really.
Allen is so guilty . He confessed over and over again . But his attorneys who believe there is a movie deal in this has told Allen they will get him off just like OJ Simpson . You can tell in these pictures the man on the bridge is the killer .
Allen is so guilty . He confessed over and over again . But his attorneys who believe there is a movie deal in this has told Allen they will get him off just like OJ Simpson . You can tell in these pictures the man on the bridge is the killer Richard Allen . Allen has lost a lot of weight but his face features is the same .
Thank you for covering, seems difficult to get a window into this trial!
I'm just confused as to why Keegan Kline was talking with at least one of these gals the day before their deaths...then, brought out of the jail to show cops where the cell phone could be found...then, quietly sentenced to life behind bars away from this case.. Can anyone tell me if I am wrong as I am genuinely confused??
I need to research who you’re mentioning & see what’s up with him. Ty for mentioning
Klines son and father. The son used anthony shock fake account to lure young girls . @mamakat114
Coincidence
If Richard Allen is innocent of this crime (not Ron Logan) I hope justice will catch all of those responsible for putting him through this hell he has surely gone through the past 5 years.
Fair and great coverage. Thank you for waiting in line to get in.
The witnesses not identifying Richard Allen as the Bridge Guy is a huge problem for the prosecution.
It's an absolute huge problem
I tend to agree.
It’s so crazy because the video from Libby’s phone is pretty accurate to RA’s appearance, hight and weight. But the witnesses are sharing all sorts of different descriptions
He did it and he will be found guilty
@@emmatinsley9364 highly unlikely
Why isn’t the judge allowing the jury to know everything about this case. This is so wrong!
If there is no nexus it's not going to happen....
@@mshockey73there’s a nexus between the crime and other people that were investigated
@@mshockey73 thought it was weird when I heard one of the witnesses who came in through the Meers entrance spoke about a car that was obscured from view and prosecution objected and the judge went along with it. Why can’t they hear about the possibility that there was a car nearby. I think it’s the same witness that described who she seen as boyish. Seems like information that is important. RA may be guilty but why shut that information down. Seems fishy to me.
Agreed
Because they want this guy to take the fall. Period
This jury should be furious once they know all the information held back from them. This is in their hands a man’s life. All evidence should be allowed.
That's what I keep thinking. About being juror and learning about all the other evdience after deliberation.
This case makes me feel like I would only be a juror once until I seen some of the judges decisions on admissibility of certain evdience in a case.
Exactly. The judge is wasting their time by having this info withheld.
💯 agree once the trial is over and these jurors hear everything that was kept out they are going to b shocked
100% agree. Let it all in or none of it.
@angelmeade6927 What evidence are you referring to? Please your facts.
There no way RA’s wife or kin don’t know whether that’s his voice, clothing etc
Exactly, if it was him they would have recognised it.
@@sarahwales6276…. So what have they said? Would they cover for him? If they say it was him, are they telling truth if they say it wasn’t him are they telling the truth? ….. either way they could be lying or they could just be making a mistake.
Prosecution doesn’t always rely on one piece of evidence, it’s the body of evidence . A person can be convicted of circumstantial evidence if the overall body of that evidence is overwhelming.
They've been covering for him since it was released.
Is his family supporting him?
I agree. However now living in Indiana, but from the Philadelphia area, bridge dude looks like soooo many 50 YO men around here. Same exact dad jeans, jacket, hat and ponch even if fabricated. Thats why he blended in so well. I even wanted to report a friend’s husband bc he looks EXACTLY like the sketch of the older BG sketch😮😅. Whoopsie😂
I think Richard Allen is innocent. I think the girls were taken away from the scene and brought back later.....That points to someone they know or an acquaintance imo.....
Give me a break
I agree
It was abundantly clear that they were slain where the bodies were found
The stupidity of the likes of @pecanbrown2006 and @HillbillyIslandLife is 1 of the many reasons this country's goin downhill.
I find it absolutely absurd that the State was able to get the drawings thrown out because it can "confuse" the jury. It was destiny that the witness slipped up and said something. I don't know who killed these babies, and whomever did deserves to be punished, but that is our right as Americans is to receive a fair trial. They have shown the drawings for years, but now they don't. It makes absolutely no sense to me!
Sketches are rarely used in trials.
That's not the guy
Well, I believe it is
It is. He was there that day.
He admitted his guilt multiple times then also said he killed his grandkids which was not true,he doesn’t match what witnesses say the guy looked like,the hair in one of the girls hands didn’t match his,they found a bullet matching his gun but the girls were not shot,they found the girls on another man’s property who they can’t 100% rule out from being the bridge guy,nobody is saying that 100% is his voice that knows him,I’m not saying he didn’t do it I just don’t think they have solid evidence to prove he did smh Rest In Peace to both young ladies!! This and the Garrett Phillips case will always be on my mind
Where are you getting all these details they haven’t came out in the trial yet….
@@francostacy7675All of this has come out. We know they found a hair that doesn’t match him. We knew a long time ago they were found on someone else’s property. We know everything they listed above.
This crime and everything that’s happened since is upsetting. The judge should allow all evidence. I’ll have to look into the other case you mentioned.
@@BS-dq1kzthe hair is female. So it’s moot.
It’s going to be hard for the jury to overlook 60+++++ confessions to multiple ppl and confessions they’ll hear themselves from recorded jailhouse calls!!!
Why usnt the judge allowing us all to view the video? It could possibly help.
Im so sick of this judge keeping everything from the public.
That is so the trial will not be appealed. Releasing evidence makes it hard to find jurors because they have to have not seen it. We want a fair trial so justice is served.
@nunyabidness323 this trial is not fair and I'm one of the people that thinks he is guilty.
@@PhoenixMcGinnisI respect that, even though I disagree about his guilt (or at least the lack of proof I’ve seen so far)
I agree @@DocBree13
@@nunyabidness323That isn't why. The jury is already sequestered and they are the ones seeing and hearing the evidence -- not us. This is an extraordinary shady ruling by the judge to not allow the release of the trial audio to the media. It's really an unprecedented ruling and against Indiana State law.
Absolutely terrible day for the prosecution team. None of the witnesses testimony matched the accused. Then they don’t show evidence they talk about how it’s secured ? I don’t get it
They have the wrong guy...
They botched this case from the beginning. They actually might let a killer walker free. Especially after witness testimony.
I agree, also great profile picture lmao. I use the same generic one
I don't understand the big deal about the sketches since there is actually a live video of bridge guy. Eye witnesses for the most part are notoriously wrong. You have 4 sketches and none of them look the same, so for me the sketches are a nothing burger.
The defense is making it a big deal . . . or trying to.
They are gonna put as much reasonable doubt in the juries mind as possible, the defense, i mean. @slaws2279
yeah that's a good way to sum it up. also ra could pass for the guy on the left roughly imo. it's just a sketch. if bridge guy is the killer... which many of us think is true ... bridge guy appears to match Richard Allen
Sketches are rarely ever accurate.
Seeing that video of a bridge guy - The only i can make he is not old. Like definitely not in his 70. and maybe not in his 20 . Because neither old nor young walk like that. Also his voice sounds neither old nor very young. So based just upon the video and the sound the dude is between 30 and 50. Maybe very late 20, close to 30. Also u can see he is wearing lots of clothes so u can not say how he is built actually. Might be not so buff under all the layers
Wow, this poor jury. And of course the families. This evidence is crap.
The whole problem is that bridge guy is CLEARLY not the accused. Accused is 5.4 same height as victims - bridge guy is at least 5.8 and facially not him - so how can we reconcile this. Sure we all want it to be him…. Maybe he is the killer but he is NOT bridge guy.
So Cruel!!! How could anyone do this to these two Beautiful girls!!
There's no answer for that, sadly 😢 You can pay attention to their backgrounds, historys, etc, but there's no rhyme or reason. Yes, those beautiful ❤ beautiful girls
Sick and evil perverts are everywhere.
Siblings are sometimes the worst of enemies... the way it's beginning to look... all Kelsi German's friends and relatives out there that day,then there's the female DNA found on Abby,the tugged out hair...said before this farce began,KG will be lucky to not be in shackles by the end of the trial!
theyre framing this dude. The judge needs to be held accountable.
Why doesIndiana not allow more audience members & free release of trial & evidence? Something smells. Sunlight is the best disinfectant
I’ve heard that it’s the judge making those decisions but I’m curious to know if, like you said, they could pass laws that force courts to be more transparent to the public.
Because its literally the amount of seats they have this is common
. Actually during prior hearings in this court there were more chairs but they have been removed for the trial for some reason.
@@gibbo822so move it TO ANOTHER HALL. what is the problem. Not like it is in the middle of a desert
@@bambinaforever1402 The Carroll County Courthouse is VERY small. The population of Delphi is only roughly 2,900. The courthouse has only 3 courtrooms and they're all very small with approx. 70 seats total in them. About 45 of the seats are reserved for the 3 families and then about a dozen for media. That only leaves 24 public seats. Whatta you gonna do??? That's how it is. He's being tried in his county where the crime occurred.
Def. Reasonable doubt
Absolutely.
Plus the fact that even in high-profile cases, the defendants usually await their trial in the County Jail.
I need yet to hear a plausible reason for keeping him in solitary confinement in a high-security PRISON.
No wonder he confessed that he also killed his grandkids--RA doesn't have grandkids.
The jury will have trouble overlooking 60++++ confessions and the fact that RA placed himself on the trail that day at the exact time of the girls being abducted and murdered, placed himself being on the trail at the exact time the girls witnessed BG on the trail, placed himself on the bridge and platform 1 at the exact time the witness saw BG there and described the clothes he was wearing that day, which matched BG!!
I'm sorry for Libby and Abby's family.
I'm sorry for Allen's wife and parents.
Worlds can be turned upside down over night.
I'll make up my mind on guilt after all the evidence is laid out. But if he is innocent, I'm sorry for him too.
Jesus I hope the jury isn’t as gullible as you people that man is guilty
how can you make up your mind when it's all laid out when the judge isnt letting anyone see it. The judge needs to be held accountable
He is the victim in this case, too. Unfortunately 💁♀️
Richard Allen’s wife knows exactly what he did
@@chumchum4393How have you come to that conclusion? You don’t know that at all.
So shady that the trial is closed
Not at all. It was expected. The far, far amount of redrum cases aren't allowed cameras. It's always presumed closed unless the judge decides to let them in and he has to announce it while in the courtroom. Most judges never allow cameras, no matter what. It's only surprising when they do allow them. It's a big decision. This is how it's always been done in the US, anyway. It might be different for other countries, but not the US.
@@Mewsette1 The problem with that is the 6th Amendment guarantees the defendant a public trial aimed at creating transparency, fairness and accountability. The court is very small and only about 24 people can view the trial in person after seats for the families and media are gone. The few that get in are waiting in the cold overnight beginning at 12:30am -3:30am. Too many barriers being put up. The judge didn’t even want the media to be able to view the exhibits. Plenty of high publicity trials have been broadcast from O.J. Simpson to Lori and Chad Daybell. This is a high profile case that the local community in Delphi has a right to directly observe. If the judge doesn’t not want to stream it, why not at least provide an audio recording or transcripts for the media and the public to view? Please view the motion by Andrea Burkhart which lays all of this out beautifully.
@@jennifertaylor2308I agree 100%
People can sit for the trial but a bunch of TH-camrs are camping out overnight to make sure they get a seat in the trial all for likes and subscribers
I think they re trying to conceal incompetence of the police force. I m STUNNED to hear how badly the initial investigation was conducted. The CSI just got cold and went home? Really? So much for the CSI series where they went all times of day and night. I will never be able to watch the series again after this trial. Shame on lazy policemen. Those were their neighbours’ children, why they were so not motivated
They botched this investigation from the start. If they had more images of “bridge guy”, why’ve we not seen them. 😡
Who's the man obviously killed these two girls and I'm telling you right now he's going to walk from these charges as an innocent man.... His bullet was found in between the girls he already wrote a written confession to the warden he said he was sorry for what he did and wanted to tell that to the families off... He has admitted being on that same bridge at the same time the girls were killed but yet the state seems like they are from Mayberry in future and confidence this man is going to walk free after murdering and and probably raping these two girls in Cold blood... Somebody had told me they found one of the girls totally naked... I hadn't heard that yet if that's true what a sick son of a b****
Hes
If you put a person in solitary confinement for years you might confess to anything.
Wow. Those witnesses’s descriptions of bridge guy don’t match RA. That’s huge
I agree
It’s disturbing & suspicious.
Witness descriptions are not usually accurate. In this case, they remembered seeing One man on the bridge, and this joins with the video the girls took at the bridge- one man.
RA admits to being on bridge at same time, wearing the same clothing, as bridge guy.
They absolutely match him he’s so guilty to me I don’t see how people think that mf is innocent smh
He did it people are just stupid
That bridge should have been condemned,it was nt safe to be on.Also, the first time I saw this guy ,the video,I knew he was an older man, not a younger man,I've always said that.
Never was safe. Dropping to your death every few steps - it should be labeled unsafe. Instead it was a hang out spot.
He does walk like an older guy doesn’t he? But I wonder if that’s due to navigating steps on the bridge?
So why would the killer leave the cellphone there ? Weird
Bec he was interrupted left the one girl half dressed and other girl dressed with wrong clothes on and maybe she hid it before he knew she was recording it all .
It was the girls cell phone. He may have not known they had it and he also didn’t know they had recorded him. Taking the cell phone would have been more risky bc it could easily track him and lead to his arrest!
I'm always baffled by the public who thinks they know what's going on without knowing the evidence and the "why" behind certain decisions.
Nah ,This sounds like they dnt have any solid evidence
I honestly believe that there are two of them Richard Allen being one of them that could be why the witnesses gave two different suspect descriptions..i also believe that the girls were lured there.. either way i think they are on the right track with getting justice finally for these poor girls.
You'd have to be blind to think Allen isnt the person in the video
I wholeheartedly agree. And I'm amazed so many people apparently are blind.
You'd have to not know the enhancement process involved or that it includes guesswork to fill in gaps and that the enhancements actually brought forth several options to choose from because that guesswork produces different facial features, in order to think it's him.
What we have seen is simply the one option they chose out of several that all looked different.
Folks arent blind, we're just not hanging our hat or another human being on a photoshopped video.
Especially when the option they've chosen doesn't align with the eyewitnesses who described the bridge guy as being young, likely in his 20s but possibly early 30s.
I Agree he walks like him to of course is going to look different after 7yrs I believe that it is him.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like they really have any solid evidence.
So what if these descriotions of another guy. We still know Allen WAS there that day on the bridge admittedly HIS bullet was found at scene, and he HAS many times admitted to the murders.
'So what'?? So you don't care if an innocent person gets sentenced to life in prison?
The witnesses not identifying RA is important.
Did you hear him confess? Even in high-profile cases, defendants usually await trial in the County Jail, NOT in a prison in solitary confinement.
His confession includes killing his grandkids--RA does NOT have grandkids.
People in the US own more guns than its total population: the bullet is not evidence 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
Is there reasonable doubt: yes, plenty.
This jury should be furious once they know all the information held back from them. This is in their hands a man’s life. All evidence should be allowed. What about the hair they don’t test yet?
He’s already said he was on the bridge..witnesses said he was there…he’s confessed 60 times.🙄
Exactly. People are really concerningly gullible or they wanted to join him.
I want justice for these poor girls so bad but I just have so many questions, just not sure RA is the right guy, he doesn’t look like bridge guy. As a guy with a lot of knowledge about guns and handloading ammunition, I have issues with this “tool marking” on the pistol round found under one of the girls bodies, way too many variables there
I think he looks exactly like bridge guy. And as a hand loader of 30 years, I'm concerned you don't understand extractor tool markings. Brass is soft and under a microscope it is easy to match up those markings
Are you blind?
@@vadenk4433 I completely understand what your saying but no cases are an exact copy, just because an extractor leaves a mark on a case, doesn't mean its going to leave the exact same mark on the next case in the magazine. That extractor isn't gong to leave the same marking even based on temperature, has the gun been recently fired, the steel can expand, u can have a tight chamber, meaning the extractor can be close to coming off the rim of that cartridge at round 1 but have a looser chamber once the gun is heated up not leaving as much of a mark....
Put $$ on his books he does have his groupies. You all don't know the evidence and weren't at the crime scene or in court. If you know something they don't contact them or sit down.
Id like to hear the voice in length of Richard Allen. Bet its identicle to bridge guy.
Along with the other threats against his families life. He also claimed to kill Doug Carter in a fight out. They were starving him, refusing to give him even water. The Judge needs to be disbarred.
They found the same coat that Bridge Guy wore at RA home…. In fact,he still wore the coat.
did not know that!!
If there were all the people out there how come nobody see the killer with these girl's
They weren’t on the bridge.
What was the motive though? He had zero criminal record. There is scant evidence except the bullet found between them and grainy video. 🤔
There is no exact time of death. I have no idea how they are connecting him to the girls at all. There seems to be no real evidence
Trust me when i say that delphi police is extremely incompetent lol
It shows.
Inexperienced with solving murders, incompetent, and probably corrupt too.
I don't know how anyone could do this. Those poor girls.
I find it unbelievable that the judge is ruling that the defendant and his defense can not use Odinism (or any defense for that matter). They should be able to say the Easter bunny committed the crime…AND LEAVE IT UP TO THE JURY TO DECIDE IF IT IS REASONABLE OR NOT!!
I wonder how that CVS is holding up without old Richard working the counter...
Now they can use the sketches ! You know the judge was mad when that happened lol 😂
weren't those sketches told by young girls too..
@@OMERICA-qq2dp Think one was from a young girl and one from an older woman that was walking trail alone exercising.. unless it was the woman driving by and seen man walking and said he was Muddy . Not too sure honestly but first thing anyone would say about Richard Allan if they seen him is they would say he was short. Think he’s around 5’4” . He didnt have brown curly hair or had a boyish face . Lot of reasonable doubt idk.. 🤷
@@mattlubas4038the sketch of a young guy is by a jogger woman. I personally feel like she actually did not see anyone, just wanted 5 seconds of fame. Shame on her
@@bambinaforever1402nah..the older man is BH and the younger is probably his son
The sketch of the older guy matches RA, which is why the defense did not want that one coming in and only wanted the younger one coming in! So, it’s really not goin to help RA!
They need to keep looking into all the other suspects..
I believe the one who done it has already died. And they let him go.
I am really scratching my head on this. So far the State's case looks weak. The girls' didn't die from gunshot so why is the bullet so important? I truly hope the State can explain the reason for the HUGE discrepancy between the two sketches. What a mess! They need to get this right and make sure the right person is convicted!
Look at the sketches. The so called younger one: to me it looks even more like R Allen. That nose. Open your eyes please.
The bullet was an unspent round from Allen’s pistol. It matched. How does he explain his bullet being next to dead children?
Did anyone ever think they put a younger sketch out at 7yrs ago and could be an accomplice that helped RA .
Judge is shady, shady, shady!
We need to do better… This world is absolutely has me worried about my kids and increasingly withdrawing from society.
The unfortunate deaths of these lovely young girls - I believe - is tied back to the man who owned the property in which they were found…
Unfortunately - he is now deceased .. he has something to do with it or knew something he never shared or admitted to ..
I hope - that after all this time -
the prosecution has more evidence than just an unspent cartridge …
That said - I’ve now watched a few news stories covering the trial and this video - is by far - the most informative and seemingly unbiased report I’ve seen … it’s also 30 minutes long… it’s very informative & is not just a 3-4 minute quickie video .. thank you for this coverage ..
With what's being reported by those attending and reporting to this point I wouldn't convict on what's been presented.
This reporter who has been in the courtroom during the trial thus far is very professional and thorough.
This being said, I can also see how the trial has broken this man's heart. He is clearly affected and quite understandably so.
Excellent information
WTF is wrong with the state? They’re looking incompetent. They opened the door to the sketches.
Meh. The witness discrepancies are already out there.
Worse thing it does is show how lost LE were in 2019.
And this isn’t even the only incompetency. No video of the state “finding” unspent bullet. All the earlier interviews they’ve had with suspects were “taped over” so no more records. And that incident where Defense had crime scene photos copied and sold to people (and someone “suicided” themselves when it was found out) this whole case is incompetent and strange. I don’t think they even have the right guy and I think they (Indiana Justice) know that as well.
Will the full video and audio eventually be released after the trial?
Not a chance
no, the judge will have it sealed from public view, then in 20 years maybe it gets leaked but if the court has anything to say about it that video will never come out
@@austintaylor6152Why ?
@@BlackStump172 because of the grief and pain the families would possibly have to endure if it were released, I know it's not necessarily graphic however it is evidence in a murder of 2 minors and their possible killer, not to mention the judge in this case isn't exactly a fan of transparency whatsoever, they released only some of the exhibits in this case and they did it at a courthouse 2 hours from where the trial is happening, so i dont see the video coming out for public viewing
@BlackStump172 Well, I guess I would like to see and hear the entire video and audio.
A person PHYSICALLY can NOT be simultaneously looking early 20 and early 30. Early 20 means a young BOY. Early 30 means a young looking MAN. U might confuse a man in his 30 and his 40 for each other, but not men in EARLY 20 and 30. No way!!!!
If you are 40 looking at some one 20, they look young. If you are 20 looking at someone 40, they look old. Descriptions contain both personal and visual markers that are based on individual memory.
@@annereidy7981you’re right. A 15 year old sees a 30 year old as ancient.
@@annereidy7981NOBODY looks 20 when they re 40. And if someone tells u u look that THEY LIE TO YOUR FACE
Only thing I could think was maybe because RA was quite a bit pudgier back then, which can often make someone look younger (chubbier face = no wrinkles, lines etc). And it looks in the video like bridge guy is wearing a hat under his hood, 1 of those with fluffy ear cover bits. Could've been that someone mistook for hair??
The video was originally said to be 2 minutes. The police said this over and over and the family said they also watched it. Now it is not even a full minute?
Video confirms bridge guy was the perpetrator. Witnesses confirmed seeing bridge guy on the day and time. Richard Allen identifies himself as bridge guy.
But the CSIs didn’t video themselves picking up a round, so none of that matters right? 😂
@@ignacio9399 it doesn't confirm anything. The video has him about 40 feet away by the time the "down the hill" comes.
He may well be involved but I feel like there's someone else close enough to tell them about the trail that runs down the hill.
@@TJ20232Did he say that there was someone else in front of him on that bridge? Why would he speak to the girls from forty feet away and expect to be heard , unless he shouted which would be odd ?
@@BlackStump172 Honestly unsure. It doesn't make sense to me. He hasn't said anything yet. But supposedly the video is 43 seconds long and has 4 frames of bridge guy. It's very odd
Richard Allen is Bridge guy. Richard Allen is guilty. Nothing else matters. The rest of it is hogwash.
Thank u for
This detail!!!!!
Yall got the wrong guy !!!!!!!!!!!
Did any of the witnesses happen to look at Richard Allen in the court room and say “that’s him”? What kind of investigation and trial is this?!
No - none of them did
@@DocBree13 I’m
Not a conspiracy theorist of any kind. Something has been fishy with this from day one. Either this guy is a patsy or this is the worst investigation ever conducted.
They describe three different men in the way that they looked and it wasn't Richard allen
This feels like a witch trial.
He does not look like his younger self anymore. He lost weight and pretends to be insane
I believe the signed confession was coerced. Look up the deckhand confession/interrogation video. Poor guys was psychologically tortured into giving a false confession. I have never thought Allen was responsible for the murders. Something stinks real bad with this one.
He confessed first TO HIS WIFE! He's not the smartest perv around and he became unstable in jail (concerned for himself) so he cracked and confessed to his wife. Probably afraid he will end alone and rot in jail alone.
My theory is he made all these ludicrous confessions afterwards to obscure his real confession, to make them believe it was all lies/ unreliable. His way of'retracting' the confession he clearly made in a rare bout of honesty.
Honesty, not because he regrets anything he's done, but because he was alone and afraid for what would happen to him.
He doesn't want to spend the rest of his life in jail without the support of his wife. He's not so tough (unless he has a knife and there are two naked young girls alone with him).
how did he do this alone?
Nah, I believe those guards forced him to do all these confessions. I believe he went into psychosis from solitary confinement and the guards/inmates got into his head. My opinion
The video looks just like him & they found the blue jacket he owned
Or he’s just a typical manipulative psychopath and he’s running a game on everybody trying to act crazy when inside hes as calculating as Ted Bundy .
@@cindybrock1705How many guys in that area look like him & have the style jacket????
@@56dh I wouldn’t know
Great theory except did you notice that his daughter Bethany Brittany, and her husband are not present in the court room I recall, reading in one of the many papers that were filed legal documents that Richard Allen made incriminating statements to his son-in-law. That was before incarceration or any guards or any make-believe or pretends psychosis or acting crazy to manipulate people into feeling sorry for him. Don’t be surprised when her husband his son-in-law is called up to the stand to testify for the prosecution.
Brad rozzi is such a good lawyer!
Last night, for the first time I watched the press conference that was held by LE saying 2 bodies had been found but they weren't saying it was Libby and Abby. I'm going to be honest, something felt off about all 3 of those men. My first thought was "why are they not being questioned?" Seems like LE really messed this up. In my opinion.
Is the bridge guy wearing a newsboy cap? Surely if he was my husband I would recognize it, also that bag hanging from his belt. Apparently he told investigators details not known to anybody else. I am now of the opinion that he is mentally unstable. His wife and employer will know more about his conduct at home and work.
She knows exactly what he’s done
Yeah she either knows/suspects or is sticking her head in the sand & telling herself its not him.
I strongly feel that they have completely the wrong man and that actually the murders were carried out by at least two men, possibly several more, who positioned themselves at either end of that bridge in order to trap and grab their victims. It was highly planned out. Bridge man was the one whose task it was to guide the girls down to the ‘ambush’ where the Odinist ritual and murder happened. This man, who was not the defendant, did not do this alone. The defendant is currently being threatened by Odinists and the police forced his ‘confession’.
It looks like the prosecution is making mistakes and the defense is not
He's wearing a fanny pack should be easy to know if he wears one . 3:22
These sweet angels solved their own murders. Why in Gods name did it take 7 years to bring him to justice. I know in America one is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. With the confessions etc I just find it amazing the young children had the instincts to get him on video with audio! I pray for the families and pray justice prevails. RIP precious angels.💜🙏💜♾️
I don’t believe it’s been solved
Hasn’t been solved and if he’s found guilty, I will still have too much doubt because the judge is crooked. She isn’t allowing evidence that should be included. Also, the Odinism is also something to consider. There really are a lot of Odinists there.
@@BS-dq1kz When you say Odinists do you mean Pagans/Norse Mythology?