People here crying in comments it is not cut, I challenge you to show me where rockstar mentioned that uncle introduced Abigail to gang. And show me where Rockstar said Abigail was prostitute before (Stop crying with RDR1) he clearly said Cut from RDR2. And show me where Rockstar mentioned John left Abigail for years!!! Stop crying kids
''Abigail was an orphan as a child and later earned her money as a prostitute. She was introduced to the gang around 1894 by Uncle and fell pregnant with John's son, Jack, soon afterward.'' I litterally took me 30 seconds to search both of these.
@skyseymour3952 it's also in the character bio in the official rdr2 guidebook. It's specifically mentioned that she's a former prostitute that Uncle introduced into the group. Also, wait until you figure out that also includes Arthur (it's mentioned in a conversation they have in camp and also in Arthur's journal.)
I’m pretty sure when they were kids they got along quite well. Arthur and John are brothers in spirit. Like you said Arthur sacrificed his life to save his family.
@@connordougherty9860 They weren’t kids at the same time. When John joined the gang at 12 years old Arthur was already 22, we don’t even know what their dynamic was like, but Arthur clearly had resentment over John before he even left the gang and him leaving is Arthur’s excuse to be more open about it. Between reading his journal and other small hints it’s more clear that Arthur was always a little jealous of John because John was a quick learner and eventually because Abigail was deep in love with John and Arthur had some feelings for her
The daughter could have been implied that it happened in between the epilogue of RDR2 and the beginning of RDR1. It was a 4 year period in between, and it would kind of make a little sense, because after RDR2 epilogue, Abigail was over 30 (Born in 1877) and the medical technology around then wasn't as good as today (obviously), and the child might have died while Abigail was giving birth.
@RoadWarrior77 Yeah, I guess it makes sense that she had to have been born between the end RDR2 Epilouge and when RDR1 began. But still, I felt like they could've mentioned something like Abigail, at least being pregnant. It felt like Rockstar just forgot.
This is all learned through dialogue in both RDR and RDR2. Just because it wasn't shown in game, doesn't make it cut content. That would be things like the character models for Arthur's lover and her baby, which were later used for Francis Sinclair's mother and the baby she was holding.
There is an unused character named Dr. Lane Higgins who was leftover in the files alongside his voicelines, he would've served as the subject of a cut stranger mission set on Guarma
If you read Arthurs journal he mentions how he thought about marrying Abigail but couldn't get over Mary, implying there was something between him and Abigail before she hooked up with John.
I think there wasn't actually anything between them,what happens was that Arthur had a crush for Abigail which I don't blame him because she's really pretty for a courtisan in the 19th century,and he got really jealous and angry of John for not returning her feelings and also getting away like he did,Arthur thought for a long time that he was the best for her,but his feelings for Mary was too strong for him to forget,he loved her.
Def forgot about Arthur crushing on Abigail. The way their relationship ends towards the end it always felt like a big brother lil sister kind of dynamic. Which is weird to say because they prob slept together at least once.
To all the people who Are saying this wasnt cut put you Are Wrong Yes it was all mentioned that John left for a year ect. But it was Never mentioned in the Game that abigail was a prostitude wich was sleeping with the whole Gang. And Johns thoughts of Not being Jacks real Father Makes a lot more sense with that Information
It’s 100% Marston. In the first game everyone tells Jack how much he looks like his dad. Also the message is it doesn’t really matter who the biological father is; John stepped up to raise Jack to be a good man. Sure he failed but he gave it his all. But no seriously John is Jacks father.
Ikr I used that style outfit for my playthrough and loved it, especially when Arthur is healthier before getting TB he looked like a dangerous and outright intimidating man
@@PrinSanity That explains why you think this is "cut content", haven't removed the video nor apologized for the misleading title and the really vague video. You just suck at english.
Either a RDR2 precuel playing as one of the Callander brothers Davey and Mac, Davey died in the Blackwater failed robbery [We saw his corpse in the first chapter] and Mac was captured and tortured by the Pinkertons [We never saw him which makes him being the protagonist of RDR 3 have more chances] But I rather see either RDR2 sequel RDR1 prequel playing as Sadie Adler or a RDR1 sequel playing as Jack but playing as Jack would be boring since in that time the first World War started and that's a boring storyline
I like that idea thought something similar. Game could end with Black Water Massacre. Only issue with that is the whole free roam aspect after campaign is done away with because we know they immediately head north to Ambrino.
Sorry to pinned comment guy but it’s just wrong. None of this was cut. I’ve seen no mention anywhere from devs saying they originally planned for this stuff to be in the game and it would have made no sense to make it in the first place because all of this was years before the events of RDR2. Exposition isn’t the same thing as cut content
@@SarcasticBeingYes because Dutch told him too..he was asked to help John, and could have refused but went along. Being told by his leader to do something is different to wanting to do something?
@@thegamingcook785 Robbing the train in the first chapter? because that was Dutch's order. For the sheep part he didn't like him and still was uncomfortable around him
Arthur also left his family. He was only visiting them but for the most time they were alone and that's why his family died. John atleast left them with Dutch gang, not complitly alone like Arthur did.
There is no cut content this is lore from prior to 1899 and this isn't just info from a rockstar developer this is mentioned in the story of the game this isn't content this is the story actually show content
They cut so much the start of the game was really the halfway point it’s a shame we didn’t get more then 6 chapters considering the fact that rockstar doesn’t like single player DLC anymore so they should’ve went all in and not cut corners
They should just make a dlc with all the finished cut content that wouldn’t significantly impact the story and add all the online content to story mode and I’d buy it no matter the price
Man… Abigail story is really sad. Like, working only for men pleasure for money is something really bad, also taking care of a child alone, with no help at all is really hard and heartbreaking. Atleast Jack Marston is still alive in RDR series
Arthur was far more upset he left the gang, not his family. He broke the code and that’s what upset him the most. His dialogue makes this clear. Non of what you listed was “cut” in the slightest.
I’m under the belief that Arthur never hated John but in fact loved him and was so angry with his choices. Arthur lost his son and gf over $10 and saw his little brother making the same mistakes. And yes obvs Marston and Arthur aren’t related but they’re brothers in every way that matters.
People here crying in comments it is not cut, I challenge you to show me where rockstar mentioned that uncle introduced Abigail to gang. And show me where Rockstar said Abigail was prostitute before (Stop crying with RDR1) he clearly said Cut from RDR2. And show me where Rockstar mentioned John left Abigail for years!!! Stop crying kids
''Abigail's character evolves from a prostitute and outlaw to a resilient, forthright woman adept at survival.''
''Abigail was an orphan as a child and later earned her money as a prostitute. She was introduced to the gang around 1894 by Uncle and fell pregnant with John's son, Jack, soon afterward.'' I litterally took me 30 seconds to search both of these.
Everything you said is learned through in-game dialogue from both RDR2 and RDR. If you actually paid attention, you'd know that.
Pretty bold opinion coming from a manual dishwasher
tsk tsk tsk xome back once you have put enough time into both games young one :)
This isn't cut content, this is just lore
Lets directly quote Dutch:
"We all had her, John married her."
No like, no subscribe, enough people wasting my time. Click bait
Exactlyyyy I even said that and found this comment
That was in the first game. They cut the mention of in the second
Of course, it wouldn't sit in well with newcomers to the game. @@skyseymour3952
I mean just remember what bill said in rdr1 when u go to kill him
@skyseymour3952 it's also in the character bio in the official rdr2 guidebook. It's specifically mentioned that she's a former prostitute that Uncle introduced into the group.
Also, wait until you figure out that also includes Arthur (it's mentioned in a conversation they have in camp and also in Arthur's journal.)
they didn't get along, but Arthur gave his last moments fighting for john, and john came back killing micah for Arthur
I’m pretty sure when they were kids they got along quite well. Arthur and John are brothers in spirit. Like you said Arthur sacrificed his life to save his family.
they got along, arthur just didnt like him in the first chapters of the game because he left the gang
@@cheerios5849 yeah and He was the one saving him in the start as well.
In the first game, Dutch said that Abigail was a prostitute
@@connordougherty9860 They weren’t kids at the same time. When John joined the gang at 12 years old Arthur was already 22, we don’t even know what their dynamic was like, but Arthur clearly had resentment over John before he even left the gang and him leaving is Arthur’s excuse to be more open about it. Between reading his journal and other small hints it’s more clear that Arthur was always a little jealous of John because John was a quick learner and eventually because Abigail was deep in love with John and Arthur had some feelings for her
John Marston also said he had a daughter who died in the first game, but it's never spoken of ever again.
The daughter could have been implied that it happened in between the epilogue of RDR2 and the beginning of RDR1. It was a 4 year period in between, and it would kind of make a little sense, because after RDR2 epilogue, Abigail was over 30 (Born in 1877) and the medical technology around then wasn't as good as today (obviously), and the child might have died while Abigail was giving birth.
@RoadWarrior77 Yeah, I guess it makes sense that she had to have been born between the end RDR2 Epilouge and when RDR1 began. But still, I felt like they could've mentioned something like Abigail, at least being pregnant. It felt like Rockstar just forgot.
Also Arthur had son.
Maybe Abigail was not the mother he might have had a daughter with different woman
Where is the cut content?
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I was thinking the same thing because I played this game a lot and I’m pretty sure this was mentioned in the game 😂😂
The only thing cut here was Abigail cloths when uncle first met her
This is actually cut
@@PrinSanity ALL of this was mentioned. ALL of it.
This is all learned through dialogue in both RDR and RDR2. Just because it wasn't shown in game, doesn't make it cut content. That would be things like the character models for Arthur's lover and her baby, which were later used for Francis Sinclair's mother and the baby she was holding.
Never knew that very cool!
Jack nickname in Spanish would be "El tres leches" because Abigail did had the "milk" of almost the whole gang
💀😂
It means "The 3 milks" 😂
In portuguese his nick would be tiquin (a little bit). Tiquin of one, tiquin of another...
Or Pinocchio porque esta echo de diferentes palos
el mole
There is an unused character named Dr. Lane Higgins who was leftover in the files alongside his voicelines, he would've served as the subject of a cut stranger mission set on Guarma
J C. Higgans made guns for Sears and roebucks
Damn Abigail was passed round the whole gang in 1889😂
she grew up with them so she probably felt it was right to keep them all somewhat satisfied
@@WatchFelineSpinethat's a wor mentality 😂
@@akhil3456 i cant disagree, she loves men, what can i say?🤷🏻♀️
Satisfied 💀💀???
@@WatchFelineSpine akhil just mad because he never got a turn😂😂😂😂
If you read Arthurs journal he mentions how he thought about marrying Abigail but couldn't get over Mary, implying there was something between him and Abigail before she hooked up with John.
I think there wasn't actually anything between them,what happens was that Arthur had a crush for Abigail which I don't blame him because she's really pretty for a courtisan in the 19th century,and he got really jealous and angry of John for not returning her feelings and also getting away like he did,Arthur thought for a long time that he was the best for her,but his feelings for Mary was too strong for him to forget,he loved her.
@@shadowagent6051 "We all had her, But he married her." - Dutch RDR1
Def forgot about Arthur crushing on Abigail. The way their relationship ends towards the end it always felt like a big brother lil sister kind of dynamic. Which is weird to say because they prob slept together at least once.
She was passed like a coin, there was no hooking up or turns
this isn’t even cut content
It is cut dude confirmed by Roger clark
@@Abigaiiiiiiiiiilapart from the dates,all of this is said during dialogues in the game
Well technically we don’t see any of this or most of it
@@Abigaiiiiiiiiiilyou sure are obsessed with this guys videos I see you comment on them a lot take a break from TH-cam “dude”
Actually it is
To all the people who Are saying this wasnt cut put you Are Wrong Yes it was all mentioned that John left for a year ect. But it was Never mentioned in the Game that abigail was a prostitude wich was sleeping with the whole Gang. And Johns thoughts of Not being Jacks real Father Makes a lot more sense with that Information
Thank you very much ♥️
In the first one they did state that.
Micha referenced her as a whore in American Venom
Think Micah calling Abigail a whore multiple times was just an insult? Nope. Get your facts straight.
Uncle mentions the past with Abigail when John comes back to ranch during epilogue 😅
Ah yes, the most tragic cut content of them all: established lore
Everyone says Javier is the father, but I think Uncle is the father.
bro 😭😭😭😭
It’s 100% Marston. In the first game everyone tells Jack how much he looks like his dad. Also the message is it doesn’t really matter who the biological father is; John stepped up to raise Jack to be a good man. Sure he failed but he gave it his all. But no seriously John is Jacks father.
LUMBAGO
😂😂😂@@tpbrcombo
@@connordougherty9860he failed?
Arthur's drip tho 🔥
Ikr I used that style outfit for my playthrough and loved it, especially when Arthur is healthier before getting TB he looked like a dangerous and outright intimidating man
@@CB-THE-OGWhere can i get that outfit?
What hat is it ? Is it a mod?
Bro just explained John's and Abigail story 😂these darn AI shorts
Ai shorts?
YES AI SHORTS, YALL PUT LESS WORK IN THESE SHORTS THAN I DO@@PrinSanity
Bro! Only the voice is Ai because my English is bad and the record, edit, information is everything done by me.
@PrinSanity Use your real voice, AI voice sucks my english is shit too, i can type, but i cant talk
@@PrinSanity That explains why you think this is "cut content", haven't removed the video nor apologized for the misleading title and the really vague video. You just suck at english.
Abigail looking like a snack in the thumbnail
A very affordable snack apparently 😂 jk Abigail simps please don't attack
Ong
“We all had her” this means that pretty much every man smashed Abigail including Arthur 💀
Arthur wanted to marry her as well
Arthur literally wrote in his journal that he had thought about marrying her at one point. So yeah he definitely had her at least once 😂
This is just lore
Rdr3 should be the whole story before rdr2 especially the cut content 🌝 and Abigail joining the gang
Should also include the peak of the Wild West days. When there was complete and utter lawlessness
Either a RDR2 precuel playing as one of the Callander brothers Davey and Mac, Davey died in the Blackwater failed robbery [We saw his corpse in the first chapter] and Mac was captured and tortured by the Pinkertons [We never saw him which makes him being the protagonist of RDR 3 have more chances]
But I rather see either RDR2 sequel RDR1 prequel playing as Sadie Adler or a RDR1 sequel playing as Jack but playing as Jack would be boring since in that time the first World War started and that's a boring storyline
And rdr4 can be the prequel to rdr3 and rdr5 can be the prequel to rdr4 and rdr6 can b- you get the point it gets repetitive.
We need a prequel to this because any more further in the timeline takes away from the Wild West environment since it ended in 1912
I like that idea thought something similar. Game could end with Black Water Massacre. Only issue with that is the whole free roam aspect after campaign is done away with because we know they immediately head north to Ambrino.
Abigail was gettin trains ran on her daily apparently. What a trooper
I guess you could say that she definitely took one (or many) for the team.
*claps hands*
Sorry to pinned comment guy but it’s just wrong. None of this was cut. I’ve seen no mention anywhere from devs saying they originally planned for this stuff to be in the game and it would have made no sense to make it in the first place because all of this was years before the events of RDR2. Exposition isn’t the same thing as cut content
This isn't cut content it's just part of the story. It was never going to be playable, but all of it is mentioned and referenced in the game.
this is quite literally just lore lmfao
Meanwhile John Marston in RDR1 - 🗿
Basically the plot would've been 1000x longer because of the errands she'd send you on.. 😂
Roger clark explaining how all of this is what happens in the game. Ai chatbot: "nuh uh"
“Cut content” and it’s literally something we already know because it was discussed by characters in game at length. Lmfao
This all comes to a conclusion that John Marston should’ve married Bonnie McFarlane instead of Abigail.😅
Not cut content , ppl who played this , we all knew this
Even ol uncle was Dippin in that😂
Jack is the son of Dutch
That's why Jack was the inheritor of the plan.
Yall just be saying anything
Arthur never ever hated john 😂
Events before 1899
@@PrinSanityArthur never hated John, just lost trust in him. If Arthur hated John, he wouldn't have robbed a train and stole sheep with John. Lmao
@@thegamingcook785he hated Micah yet released him from jail?
@@SarcasticBeingYes because Dutch told him too..he was asked to help John, and could have refused but went along. Being told by his leader to do something is different to wanting to do something?
@@thegamingcook785 Robbing the train in the first chapter? because that was Dutch's order. For the sheep part he didn't like him and still was uncomfortable around him
I haven't been a able to play RDR2 yet, and i keep wondering about jonh and abigail history when they were with dutch. I loved this short, thanks!
Proof that Arthur was a better than John ever was
Agree
Arthur also left his family. He was only visiting them but for the most time they were alone and that's why his family died. John atleast left them with Dutch gang, not complitly alone like Arthur did.
@krzysztof346 Agreed.
@@PrinSanityyou'd marry a woman that porked all your friends? If that makes you a better man then so be it, I'll take the L over that any day😂😂😂
Yall need to stop riding Arthur’s D lol like he wasn’t a dead beat dad doing the bare minimum for his child and baby mama 😂
I mean, grown up Jack looks just like Javier 😅👀
Arthur didn't live that long to see the epilogue
Arthur: You leave BABIES.
Dutch: ""We all had her, John married her"
God damn abigail looks really pretty in te thumbnail
Yeah it was Arthur’s son! Jack
💀😂
Javier's son.
rdr2 is one of the most educational and in depth stories maybe of any medium.
That's why that kid doesn't look like John but looks like Arthur's son. 😅
That little boy is Micah's kid. LOL
micah didnt join the gang until 1899
I love how this cut content is in the game
Jack is a group project 😂
Why do arthur character looks so good and john charcater looks like he is still in rdr1😂
Abigail being a working girl isn't cut lmao. It's hinted many times of abigails past
The thumb nail made Abaglie look like Missy cooper
Blond hair blue eyes 😂 that is not his kid
Damn true💀
And he ended up looking like Javier in the end when he was grown up in RDR1
They are keeping this for red dead redemption 3 😂 but still Ngl, that little jack when adult looks like javier
This is not “cut content” it’s backstory that is mentioned very clearly in the game.
None of this is cut. It's specifically mentioned multiple times in RDR2.
That ain’t cut content that’s just the lore that’s explained very well if you pay attention to the characters and what they say
There is no cut content this is lore from prior to 1899 and this isn't just info from a rockstar developer this is mentioned in the story of the game this isn't content this is the story actually show content
I love the part where he talks abt cut content
Of course it was uncle that found her 😂
Right lol
That's not cut content. That's established lore.
This music makes my stomache turns around.
They cut so much the start of the game was really the halfway point it’s a shame we didn’t get more then 6 chapters considering the fact that rockstar doesn’t like single player DLC anymore so they should’ve went all in and not cut corners
Cut content? I mean, besides the thing about Javier, it's pretty much what we experienced during the first hours of the main story...
John should of never came back
So the lore everybody who paid attention already knew, now qualifies as "cut content"?
😂Dayum no wonder John tried to get outta dodge everyone was expecting him to be captain save a hoe
Damn John was down bad for real
So basically Javier is Jack's Father 😂
You can’t call cut content if it’s canonically confirmed
lol I thought this video is going to mention something like Jack being Javier's son because they look alike more than John 😂
always knew baby isnt johns it was uncles
They definitely mentioned her past career in the game they just did it subtle, they also subtly mention that Dutch is possibly Jacks real dad
"We've all had her John"
It's a shame John didn't know the sasquat. Because as we all know, he "EaTs BaBiEs". It would've solved the problem
None of that was cut from the game
Plot twist is Jack is really Aurthers son
Props for pronouncing Escuella right, I'm not Spanish, but a lot don't know that LL is y sound in Spanish
Nobody's perfect. It's all about redemption
Maaan that pale rosy skin with the dark hair.....I indubitably have a type lol
Rather than cut conten, Early draft is mostly right word for it.
A saloon girl who fell for the outlaw. Neither one is perfect. They both deserved better so they found redemption in eachother.
Jack was a group project. Kinda like ichigo in bleach. He sort of looks like john and javier but his mannerism reminds me of arthur
They should just make a dlc with all the finished cut content that wouldn’t significantly impact the story and add all the online content to story mode and I’d buy it no matter the price
Thats how group project was born
😂😂
Bro this ain't funny 💀
John becoming goku with this one
💀
I didn’t know this was cut content
This wasn’t cut they made all of this very apparent in the game
Man… Abigail story is really sad. Like, working only for men pleasure for money is something really bad, also taking care of a child alone, with no help at all is really hard and heartbreaking. Atleast Jack Marston is still alive in RDR series
Arthur was far more upset he left the gang, not his family. He broke the code and that’s what upset him the most. His dialogue makes this clear. Non of what you listed was “cut” in the slightest.
It could have been a cutscene or more that was cut.
lol
yes, i noticed that jack looks a lot like javier.
Arthur is the most loyal to the gang, that's why he was angry with John
It's the spelling of Javier's last name for me 😂
Big W for the uncle
True! The real mvp
I think by "cut content" he means that non of this played out in game. However, it's all cannon and was mentioned in game.
Well at least we know the kid ain't Javier or Leonard so they're in the clear.
Pure clickbait. That's a minute of my life I'll never get back.
Also: Jack is definitely Javier's son
LMFAO this was all in RDR2 every last bit. its all talked about at camp.
I’m under the belief that Arthur never hated John but in fact loved him and was so angry with his choices. Arthur lost his son and gf over $10 and saw his little brother making the same mistakes. And yes obvs Marston and Arthur aren’t related but they’re brothers in every way that matters.