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- Recently I bought a Tesla Supercharger. Everyone commented that they want to see what's inside of it. Well here you go! I was surprised to open it!
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The gray bars are bus bars, they are insulated. It looks like the blue circles around the bus bars (near where the wires connect) are used for measuring current (amps) going into the car.
The 4 blue "circles" around the 4 conductors are known as "current transformers", and are indeed used to measure the amount of current flowing through the conductors.
You could easily mod that with your wall charger to get it working, not at supercharger speeds but would still be very cool 😎 thanks for giving us a look inside
And get free Supercharging for life ;)
I was thinking the same thing... lol
That's a very good idea....
Doesn't really add anything. You need power from the Tesla power walls. The reason why these super chargers are so fast is because they have a system installed at the super charger location that converts all AC to DC so that there is no conversion needed in the car.
The UMC just delivers AC into the car, so when you connect a UMC the car expects to get AC power and use's the car's onboard transformer to convert from AC to DC. When you hook up to a SC, it delivers DC (converted in the nearby transformer boxes) directly into the car.
You could route your UMC cable through the SC shell, but then all it is would be a fancy cable wrap.
LOL do not attempt this, where exactly am I going to attempt this? On a working supercharger?
I guess thats what they meant, there is dumb people you know.
#fact
After the last video where he shows how an entire Supercharger stall fits in the back of a model S, you can imagine people getting ideas.
Now that the top cover is off. You can get it refinished
Or maybe try acetone to clean it.
0:03 and 11:27 Made on Earth by Humans. Now that's Tesla humor.
he literally said that in the beginning of the video.. that timestamp's a little redundant
@@cybervoid8442 the same thing is probably written in the cars as well, so the tesla roadster in space is just a giant advertisement for earth
OR it is actually there to throw us off from the fact that they are actually ALIENS...lol
@@HyestarHaha
I believe they had the idea from "Made by Apple in California". It's a little joke to mock Apple a bit.
Those bus bars are most likely coated with some sort of ceramic. We use ones like them on locomotives.
you should install your wall charger components inside the supper charger so you can charge at home using it. I know you won't be able to charge any faster but it would look so cool!
Put it in your driveway, and rig it so it steals electricity from anyone that comes to charge!
10:17 PCB with current sensors. Those blue things are LEM HTFS series, the number hidden under the busbars is the max current they will sense.
There is some text above the row of connections in the terminal block, and some colour coding beneath.
I saw the round current sensors. Pretty cool. Good catch on the numbers. So are those redundant busbars, since there is only 2 DC connections to the vehicle?
@@KK-ts1pm You can see in the video the Busbars are wired together where the underground cable would be terminated.
The reason for two red/black cables is to make the cable more flexible.
The four current sensors is mostly over engineering, however it would detect is one cable were to conduct worse (eg bad connection).
@@KK-ts1pm
The four buss bars are set up as two for the positive, and two for the negative.The main reason for splitting up the power into four conductors and running them in parallel will most likely be for flexibility and heat dissipation in the cord. As the conductor gets larger, its external surface area shrinks in proportion to its internal area, and has a harder time shedding heat. The current transformers are there to accurately measure all current flow for charging, and to measure for current flow imbalances in case of a failed conductor or connection.
That supercharger is real. They actually use those superchargers to quickly set up a provisional replacement for when they are servicing or upgrading a supercharger station
What you have there is a just a small part of the actual system. The real work happens in much larger, heavier enclosures located away from the charging stations.
Thanks for sharing. I was just learning about charging stations, for a potential job. I think newer ones have liquid cooling in the cable (so they can have more current than the wires would normally have).
Absolutely Great!! You guys are too much ,THANKS
I may use this video for reference If I go with my plan to be a Tesla Supercharger for Halloween 2019 ! Thx kindly for doing this dudes.
Where is your power box ? I ask cause usually the tesla wall connectors are usually installed near wherever the box is. In your garage i don't see any box. Is the wall charger far from the box ? Im interested cause my box is on the opposite side of the house where i wanna Install my wall charger. Please lmk!
I’m still convinced you could build in the circuitry for an AC EVSE using the big cable since you can access the tails. Either the Tesla Destination charger innards or even build one with a contactor and a mainpine/viridian protocol converter on a din rail.
This is just huge dump cable holder with lighting, all magic happened in the boxes with fans.
The left circuit board seems to have current-sensing coils which may serve as a power meter.
@@psirvent8 over current and leakage current protection also
@@Ncky but no way to switch it off or disable it... (Presuming the bars go straight through)
@@lolimpol probably switched off at main power supply.
@@Ncky hmmm, that would mean separate cables to all superchargers. Seems like an odd design then?
Can you tell , how much input voltage and how much out put voltage ? It must be written on that 4 wire terminal panel. Also see , it’s ac or dc voltage ?
You said “I really don’t know anything about electrical stuff” but yet, you guys are taking that apart 😂 and telling us not to do it
This was so awesome. Thanks Erik and David. It would be AWESOMERRRR if you get some electricians and see what can be done about installing this thing on your property. :D
That medium thickness green wire from the cable is just an ethernet cable to connect to the support shed onsite. The onsite shed has a much stronger antenna/most sites have a landline connection if available.
whats voltage and current 150kW is superchager working?
Tesla uses 2 red and 2 black wires in the cable instead of one bigger wire for each to help the cable be flexible.
Awesome episode guys! Thx for that. I just read the comments where some guys are saying you can't get real supercharging(oh hell of a new info for you guys, I'm sure). Some mentioned that connecting your powerwalls will get you supercharging(thats not gonna happen too). I'm sure you guys know all these things exactly and I can absolutly understand why this SuC Stall is awesome for you guys nevertheless. Keep your ideas up, I asked my self so many times what these stalls would look like inside, so thank you for showing us!
I'm so happy I found this channel. Love the videos!
this is an older generation of supercharger head(the charger is the big usually white box hidden from view) DC parallel feed using aluminium cable to get the full capacity from the charge station(the one in the video can only have 1 pair of dc cables attached), the uprights atleast for the uk are fully stainless aswell
Very interesting. I wonder what the amp rating is for that. It definitely only has two phases. I am also wondering if some of those orange tabs arnt for ethernet and that way the devices can connect to a central cell or hard wire backhaul at each site. As for the bus bars they look like they are insulated with a type of insulating powdercoat or something. Very interesting. Just looking at the labeling though though P1 and N1. I would be concerned it is DC charging only with a seperate DC inverter elsewhere. That could be a showstopper for you guys but good news for anyone at home wanting supercharging but not trying to get one of these.
As always informative. Thanks.
“Made on Earth by Humans” lol.. nice touch.
How can I buy the part. I wanna build one myself
quick question - did you get a Model 3 key fob? Would be fun if you could at least get the LED lights to work
How did you get that? I want one
Is it not possible to install a breaker that would support Supercharger speeds?
On the left panel, the black cables from the charger cable would be connected to the N1 and N2 (I’m unsure if they have it set up to require a specific neutral cable to be connected to a specific connector), with the red one/s (I couldn’t see it there were two or not) being connected to P1 and P2.
The thinner wires from the charging cable, as well as the lettering wires, would connect to the buss bar on that left panel. They are indicated by color, so it shouldn’t be too difficult to connect those ones correctly.
The top connection on the right side panel is for the High Voltage Negative (black), and the lower connection would be the High Voltage Positive (red).
Provided the right power delivery system to this supercharger, you can set this up to actually supercharge your own Teslas.
Could you bodge it to make it work with ordinary charger
WOW how cool...thx 4 sharing!
This seems to be missing some parts, I'm assuming there's other hardware at the charging stations that provides the DC power to the station.. the two lugs on the left appear to be the feed in, and the whole thing is just a fancy connection point. There's got to be a massive inverter at the sites to take 3 phase 480 or 600v AC and output DC power to these fancy pedestals, the only thing I see is lighting and a connection buss between the cord and the input terminal block
The super chargers might bridge and use your Cars LTE/3G anttenna or they may all be connected to each other at each station connected over LTE or even wired
You guys should fit this on your drive as a working charger how cool would that be
So you should be able to cut the end off a wall connector and hook that into the SC and use it like a wall connector. If you really want it to function as a supercharger you are going to need the actual chargers. If tesla somehow would sell them to you they would be very expensive. And on a residential power supply they will probably be limited to only about 24-36KW. would be cool though even at 36KW.
I think I read somewhere -$20k- for a charger pair, some Taxi companies in Canada have private ones. (Edit: $60k I think this was the source I remembered electrek.co/2016/10/03/tesla-to-deliver-its-largest-privately-owned-supercharger-station-to-a-taxi-fleet-in-montreal/ )
@DÆrik What are you, about 7 now? Maybe if you start a Taxi company :D ^ "Also, Tesla has been known to offer one for free at the purchase of a fleet of 10 or more vehicles." -- electrek
@@brantwedel shoot, a single pair is only 24kw, unless you are talking about two stalls.
Hey guys this great to see this kind of stuff, It proves Tesla is planning on being a major player in EVs for a long time. Awesome! I actually met a service tech at a supercharger who was working on it and actually got to take a quick peak inside but they are super sensitive about photographing their technology as well they should be. Security and safety are the 2 most important things here.
Y’all should higher someone to make it fully functional!! That would be so cool
* hire
How long does it take to charge the car?
Erik, thanks for the inside view of a real supercharger. Looks to me like the PCB that has the car communication computer is missing. Looks like it mounts to the three metal threaded standoff’s and connects to the small wires coming from the charge cable. Stands to reason after it recovers the car serial number and confirms the cable is plugged in correctly it signals the charger hardware, located back by the AC 3 phase transformer, it’s ok to put DC on the leads to the car. With a little thinking I bet David can take a HPWC and wire it into the SC housing and you can charge your cars as if it is an SC. It of corse will charge your car on AC but it will look awesome! Have fun be safe
you should try to get it to work like a normal superchrager so you can charge your telsa would be awsome
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just a thought and probably wrong but could it not send the data thru the data lines to the car and use the cars LTE system would explain why when you get a salvaged tesla you dont get data or supercharging as said tho im prob wrong lol
The cars have 3g/4g, so the charger doesn't really need it, but I think the chargers have a connection too, I'm guessing they all share one to save costs.
Plus, each transformer can handle two bays, so giving each bay a cellular connection would be crazy.
I wonder if they can use the car's connectio. If the chargers go down? I'd love top know more about everything supercharger.
how much power would it need to be a working super caharger ?
Well...
What you two should definitely do is, get the floor coated... so any debris or moisture can be wiped.
Besides, it looks much nicer...since you already have such a nice place...💪
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Connect a Wallcharger to this Supercharger so you can use it to charge your cars with it.
Lars Löwgren they could definitely do this
that is the "front end/outlet" and the cable you stick in the car. the charger itself is housed in the boxes that is close by. each supercharger is feeding two outlets like that
Can you please tell where & how you purchased a Tesla supercharger?
Please
So this has to be connected to a DC power source ?
The supercharger app shows a lot of pictures inside the charger so opening it up was no surprise. What it didn’t show was the area around the high voltage area. I enjoyed the video for that info. I would love to get my hands on one.
Currently going to school to become an electrician. I wonder what my odds for becoming a super charger installer in the near future are. I will be researching this heavily!
This is kind of interesting to watch to lay people look at the inner workings of a outlet
Cool vid! Btw. Love the red “T” on M3. Bring on the mods.
If you got a transformer and ran the correct amperage and voltage to it, it should fire up and work just like a wall charger. It’s pretty easy, acquiring it was the hard part
How much does one v3 supercharger unit cost??
output charger is DC? or ac
you guys should totally install this on your drive way. outdoor supper charger! lol
Jael Reyna ...
Well, the idea is actually sound... for friends coming over, so they can charge...fast...💪
The four buss bars are set up as two for the positive, and two for the negative.The main reason for splitting up the power into four conductors and running them in parallel will most likely be for flexibility and heat dissipation in the cord. As the conductor gets larger, its external surface area shrinks in proportion to its internal area, and has a harder time shedding heat. The current transformers are there to accurately measure all current flow for charging, and to measure for current flow imbalances in case of a failed conductor or connection. To bad you didn't get the camera a little higher in order to see the labels for the control wire connections. As this unit was only used for display, no need to hook up all the control wires other than the logo power.
Where do buy this supercharger
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Thank you!
Definitely try to make the lights work! 😎⚡️
I love you guys! this is badass
Best video you guys ever made. So the charging cable is just left open circuit. Looks like the multiple Tesla Model S sourced charging boards must be in the large cabinets that feed the device you purchased (which I did not expect).
I hope no vandals are inspired to take the top off a one of these in the wild and leave it open to rain.
On those metal bars in side, they have shrink wraps on them
All the guts are at the top. That might allow it to survive a flood.
Chris Broemel The insides are noway IP rated by the looks of it... Everything would need to be potted and there should be no exposed connectors, which there clrarly are. Also in a flood you'd need to resist water pressure, which means the cable would need to have even more sealing.. Definitely not surviving any floods.
this isn't an operational charger. the ones you see at tesla stations are way more robust and can withstand quite a bit of abuse from both nature and humans.
@@rkan2 look at the Transformers on the side of poles they don't have any insulation
@@blazingcurent2504 Transformers on electrical poles are filled with a liquid oil insulator.
@@BillCarlson true my prior, it was a little bit hasty Transformers are true with a little oil to prevent parking in clothes box me but are insulated by air and the external parts. Nitrogen axes of very sufficient insulator
The amount of copper in 1 charger explains why copper needs have raised to unbelievable heights. We buy copper rn for 5.50 a pound. 3 years ago we were right above 2$. Insane
A real like cable? what language is that please
Warranty Voided
Thanks for the video but what you show is the output side. Can you please also show the power area where actually the AC/DC conversion takes place? Thats the real deal :D
The power electronics are located elsewhere, not in this panel.
If you can get a level 3 DC fast charger you should be able to wire it it up to the supercharger and charge at real supercharger speed at home.
Correct... It might require 3 phase
Like these Chinese portable CHAdeMO chargers which go up to 60kW.
Those are bus bars - the big shiny flat things. Once you plug it in, no mo touchie. You can think of them as really tiny version of those monster bus bars you see at the high voltage substations, et al.
If nothing else I bet they get super hot af, which is why they're in two to three layers into the unit as well as the circular shape of the unit helping with convective cooling and other aspects of thermal management.
I have no idea what the thing must draw but holy crap gents, BE CAREFUL! We like you guys sharing all the info but it's not worth getting hurt over, and I love that that shocks himself all the time's channel.
You should add power to it, even if it's not at supercharger speed, it's way cooler than the wall chargers :)
Tesla employees disassemble the supercharger units in minutes. There is a utility shed where the circuit breakers are located. I never thought about installing one of these things in my garage. Kinda like buying the DeLorean from Back to the Future!
How much did that cost? just a range..
Put the clone in your studio use this one for charging. You can do this with a wall charger.
Where would Tesla fit in the CCS cord for Europe I wonder?
They may redesign the whole stall. They have, maybe, around 4000 stalls in Europe so if each one costs $1k-$2k the total cost will be $5-$10 million which isn't that bad.
Can someone explain to me what a "DAErik" is?
Please wire this up to your fuse panel haha 🤣
$3200 isn’t too bad. Dave is hoping the supercharger cabinet that contains the chargers doesn’t show up on EBay.
THAT would be some serious money! What is the street price for 12x12kW chargers? (or is it 8x18kW now?)
Rasmus Fjellström, since they only have single phase, they could just use 4x 10kw chargers instead of 12, and get 40 kw, which would be quite a bit faster than the model 3 onboard charger. The main thing he needs is the part that communicates with the car tells which chargers to turn on
Of course. I was just speculating on what the street price of a supercharger cabinet might be 🙂 I don’t think many people have the kind of input AC power required for any kind of DC fast charging in their home. Even with a 3-phase 32 amp grid connection (here in Sweden at least, not many people have more than 16 amps 3-phase) you would need that feed PLUS a 13kW PV system at max effect PLUS 5kW powerwall output at the same time to run a 40kW DC fast charger (22+13+5).
For this house with a massive PV system and 3 powerwalls, it is possible to run a DC fast charger for limited periods of time, assuming wiring that can handle it.
Rasmus Fjellström, here, most modern houses have 200a service, 240v. But you can get 100a to 400a. So if they had 200a dedicated, derated to 160a (80%), that’s enough to give 38kw.
Amazon sells 25kw DC single phase which will be great in the US for people with I PACE that only has 7kw Charger.
amazon.com/Bosch-25kW-DC-Fast-Charger/dp/B074Z9SG2J
If they ever make one that supports Tesla then Erik can run it through his supercharger.
how fast will it charge my iPhone?
Where is the rectifier?
Cool. Now I want to go to work for Tesla and install those all day.
I think the DC voltage to charge a model 3, is around 480 volts
Ok, after seeing the videos, first go to Teng Tools and buy a proper toolkit.
Then check the connector type, voltage and amp on the LEDs and get an LED driver from Mean Well or Delta Electronics.
If you want to take it even further, take a Delta DC Wallbox
and connect it to this power cable, but I am not an electrician so this might be a bad advise (still makes nice videos). No, J/K, I think that should work if installed properly. If the AC cables are also in there, it would be even easier to connect to an AC wall charger.
Please post more detailed pictures of the circuit board somewhere!
how much
You mentioned a Cellular 4G connection But I Thought they used the tesla's cars 4g to Connect and pay and the car would turn it on
Oh My God! THAT'S A REAL WIRE!
REALLY, Inside a CHARGER? CRAZY!
Well, They Did Say..
"We Don't Know ANYTHING About Electronics !"
So, Yeah!
So give us an update on your Super Charger... I think a lot of us have serious envy and are jonesin’ for more. ;)
It is real from tesla?
With wall charger i have mine set to 56amp and it limits at 48amps
That is one badass screwdriver!
is it 3phase AC?
No. DC 400V/300A from a separate rectifier cabinet.
there are no 3 phases in the US
I'm sure there's plenty of people out there in TH-cam world that would help you install this thing and make it really work.
Now you gotta make it work In your garage or out in your driveway!
Looks like a ceramic coating on those bars.
The top being easily removed will make cleaning quicker.