These endurance bikes are the bikes I live for, our stores most popular selling bike back in the day was a Roubaix sl4 and I had one myself, super light weight and didn't look that endurance model either..... I think this bike really hits the customer on the head with who is going to buy it, people who are older who want something to ride who have been riding race bikes all there life and dont want to give that look up because of comfort, this bike looks fast why not feel comfortable while riding it... and yes I know this model is expensive but they will have a whole lineup of bikes and models at different pricepoints, 3 of the best endurance bikes on the market right now...... giant defy, canyon, and pinarello for sure
5 days ago you did a video on how the bike market has collapsed because the economy is terrible, but now a $16000 bike is an "everyman bike".? You've got to be kidding me....bora wheels on an endurance bike with campy super record? right. WAY too stiff for an endurance bike--you can buy a new lightspeed ti for about $5000.complete....way more comfortable and saves $10000.....load up your shelves with these and let us know how they are flying out the door
these type of bikes to be honest are what is selling the recession proof price tag, these types of customers are not effected by the economy like me and you, but when I say everyman bike I mean the geo, they have cheaper models and just because I showcase this bike everything I am saying is not direct correlation with this exact model, they have this model in a cheaper version with 105 di1 for like 5000
I just love this guy-straight to the point-weight of the bike in the very beginning. This is how you do it! Endurance frame for 6000 euro tho? Nah don’t think so.
I think it is awesome although out of my price range. I like the option of an all road endurance bike since I am older, still like to go fast but like to walk upright the next day. It is good to have the option to choose a road endurance bike or a gravel bike instead of making one bike that is not really great at either.
Where can i find s1000xr for 16k new? That seems like a unicorn Edit: I just realized how cheap motorcycle is in US. In my country that bike cost thrice the original price thanks to shitty taxes
i think it would be cooler if the seat stays attached to the top tube. should make it stiffer with more compliance too, not that it would be faster in any way but cooler lookin possibly more comfortable
The top tube design negates the "dorky" look you get with many endurance bikes. Pinarello know people will pay for this. It should retain it's road bike heritage so priority of climbing over fender lugs etc.
Just like the Trek Madone I can honestly say that rear seat stay is a gimmick that doesn’t do shit for the performance or comfort of the bike. All that campy gear would look better on a Battaglin or Pegoretti
Two thoughts. 1, if anyone is going to a group ride with a bunch of douch-e bags that are going to make fun of you for your bicycle, should find another group. 2, whether you have the goods or not, the bike is not going to make a huge difference, unless you are taking a fat knobby mountain bike to a road bike group.
I am just buffled. Everytime youtubers present an endurance bike and say made for everyday consumer. Then you check the price of the bike. And i have to ask who are those everyday consumers, Elon musk? Bill gates?😆😆😅😅😅
Bike is a joke. Substantial saddle to handlebar drop...what you don't want with an endurance fit. Goal of endurance geometry is a 'French Fit' aka handlebar height closer to saddle height for less torso angle and neck extension which many average cyclists find more comfortable. Second, the aesthetic in back with reinforced seat stay into the seat tube is coyote ugly. Butt ugly just like the Madone butt hole rear end. A cosmetic gimmick. Lastly, the price is the biggest joke. $16K which is Ducati money with 100 rear wheel horsepower. One can even find a lightly used Panigale for $16K which is one of the most venerated racing motorcycles on the planet and also Italian. This endurance version of the Dogma is the poster bike for why the bike industry is going broke. Have at it Pinarello. Down the drain you go.
$16,000 is a complete joke. There is no way a bicycle should be more than a new car or motorcycle. Complete greed and blaming it on covid. Hope these companies have massive losses in the future. IT IS ONLY A BICYCLE!
Just be careful. Chris Miller got demonetised for using the word X-Stays in his pinarello vid because the TH-cam algorithm thought it was a nefarious word.
It really shows how far behind Campy is in technology. This brand used to excite but no longer is a nameplate that most people are impressed by. I would pay the price if there was that much value over other brands but that is not even close to being worth it.
On a different note, endurance guys tend to ride a lot and go to a lot of places, something that lasts and is easily serviceable without gimmicks will be better, don't u think?
This cant be endurance its just marketing gimmic let the test rider of Pinarello or you do Paris Brest Paris in this and tell us the truth. What is the defination long ride...😅 1800 kms or 200
Without TT bars, it's hard to even consider this an endurance bike, and any cheap bike that has TT bars will blow this out of the water even if its an 8th of the cost.
People have too much money and gullible to get these bikes. Get a ritchey logic. Put some nice groupset and wheelset. Worry more about getting fit rather than getting a 16k bike😊
These endurance bikes are the bikes I live for, our stores most popular selling bike back in the day was a Roubaix sl4 and I had one myself, super light weight and didn't look that endurance model either..... I think this bike really hits the customer on the head with who is going to buy it, people who are older who want something to ride who have been riding race bikes all there life and dont want to give that look up because of comfort, this bike looks fast why not feel comfortable while riding it... and yes I know this model is expensive but they will have a whole lineup of bikes and models at different pricepoints, 3 of the best endurance bikes on the market right now...... giant defy, canyon, and pinarello for sure
5 days ago you did a video on how the bike market has collapsed because the economy is terrible, but now a $16000 bike is an "everyman bike".? You've got to be kidding me....bora wheels on an endurance bike with campy super record? right. WAY too stiff for an endurance bike--you can buy a new lightspeed ti for about $5000.complete....way more comfortable and saves $10000.....load up your shelves with these and let us know how they are flying out the door
these type of bikes to be honest are what is selling the recession proof price tag, these types of customers are not effected by the economy like me and you, but when I say everyman bike I mean the geo, they have cheaper models and just because I showcase this bike everything I am saying is not direct correlation with this exact model, they have this model in a cheaper version with 105 di1 for like 5000
Bora WTO are neither stiff nor particularly expensive wheels, don’t get the point. Super record is an overkill tho.
@@tonyg3091 Im talking about the frame not the wheels..read the road cc reviews of wheels..$2000 and very very stiff..thats my point
@@johnkasza2315 frame is crazy expensive yes
What an insult calling us " customers "@@GCPerformance18
Best endurance bike i ever seen! Pinarello the best bike brand
It looks like the engineers who came up with this bike had fun. Love how it looks, bet it’s comfortable.
105 with alu frame and carbon fork and rims and 12000$+ in my pocket
I ride a Pinarello on Zwift. Does that count?
For this money, one could get a custom fit frameset exact to one's body, that will be far more comfortable and less price.
That’s a real beaut. Aero optimised, endurance position when you want it to be but could also be raced. Lovely stuff
I just love this guy-straight to the point-weight of the bike in the very beginning. This is how you do it!
Endurance frame for 6000 euro tho? Nah don’t think so.
I preferred the thumb shifter. Campy had that before the cheap shimano ones. If I was going campy now I’d have chorus I think
Sweet bike, similar paint scheme as my Chinarello👍👍👍
I think it is awesome although out of my price range. I like the option of an all road endurance bike since I am older, still like to go fast but like to walk upright the next day. It is good to have the option to choose a road endurance bike or a gravel bike instead of making one bike that is not really great at either.
i still can't believe you said $16k that casually....
thats how much every bike in the industry is right now
cycling used to be a working class sport@@GCPerformance18
The Bora WTO is that an abbreviation for WAY TO OVERPRICED!!!!😂😂
Finally an Italian bike with Italian components! Beaut
My dream bike!
Very very nice bike i love it 😊
It’s aight. Roubaix, Synapse, and Domane probably own this category. Dope review bro! Keep em coming!
I still prefer BMW S1000XR this is a nice piece of engineering and is still cheaper then fu..cking push bike! ( I love cycling )
Where can i find s1000xr for 16k new? That seems like a unicorn
Edit: I just realized how cheap motorcycle is in US. In my country that bike cost thrice the original price thanks to shitty taxes
Where brand and name of that bike stand for the rear wheel?
That super record wrl looks super hot!
i think it would be cooler if the seat stays attached to the top tube. should make it stiffer with more compliance too, not that it would be faster in any way but cooler lookin possibly more comfortable
I can't afford it but man those Pinarello bikes are beautiful.
The colour is freakly, its like I'm watching in black & white, until your hand comes into the screen !
Aaaaah when you buy a bike that is half the price of new mid range car. And then someone steals it from you hahahahahahah. Love it.
My trek Domane SL5 will do and that was expensive for me already sheesh!
16 pounds !? no way
How heavy is this bike? I can’t find any details apart from frame weight? It’s an important comparison when choosing a bike.
It isnt that heavy
I would love this bike sooooo much
The top tube design negates the "dorky" look you get with many endurance bikes. Pinarello know people will pay for this.
It should retain it's road bike heritage so priority of climbing over fender lugs etc.
Dang, 16k. 🤕
any aero bike with headset spacers are all endurance bike in my book
16k? Wow. Domane RSL same weight and faster for 8K. The best thing about the Domane, it’s good for gravel as well.
My scott addict 30 with aluminum wheels 7.500 kilo for 2200 bucks not bad at all and aluminum steering much better
Pinarello is like the Lamborghini of bikes. You get it because it’s cool.
Not a fan of black/stealth bikes, but this one looks ab-so-lute-ly gorgeous.
Just like the Trek Madone I can honestly say that rear seat stay is a gimmick that doesn’t do shit for the performance or comfort of the bike. All that campy gear would look better on a Battaglin or Pegoretti
alot of people who have rode this bike said it is noticeably smoother then the dogma f model, I dont know if it is just the more comfy tires
Two thoughts. 1, if anyone is going to a group ride with a bunch of douch-e bags that are going to make fun of you for your bicycle, should find another group. 2, whether you have the goods or not, the bike is not going to make a huge difference, unless you are taking a fat knobby mountain bike to a road bike group.
"Oh, that's a slow bike..."
"Uh, no. Those are slow legs."
I am just buffled. Everytime youtubers present an endurance bike and say made for everyday consumer. Then you check the price of the bike. And i have to ask who are those everyday consumers, Elon musk? Bill gates?😆😆😅😅😅
they make cheaper models of this bike
That’s a nice looking ride.
$16000 🤦♂️
Funniest part, Pinarello Dogma’s are made in China! $7,000 frame that cost $800.00 to produce!
"X Gon' Give It To Ya"
Bike is a joke. Substantial saddle to handlebar drop...what you don't want with an endurance fit. Goal of endurance geometry is a 'French Fit' aka handlebar height closer to saddle height for less torso angle and neck extension which many average cyclists find more comfortable.
Second, the aesthetic in back with reinforced seat stay into the seat tube is coyote ugly. Butt ugly just like the Madone butt hole rear end. A cosmetic gimmick.
Lastly, the price is the biggest joke. $16K which is Ducati money with 100 rear wheel horsepower. One can even find a lightly used Panigale for $16K which is one of the most venerated racing motorcycles on the planet and also Italian.
This endurance version of the Dogma is the poster bike for why the bike industry is going broke. Have at it Pinarello. Down the drain you go.
bike is stock, the seat height is not set....... 16 is there high end model
2:39 OMG i don't like this... 😮
$16,000 is a complete joke. There is no way a bicycle should be more than a new car or motorcycle. Complete greed and blaming it on covid. Hope these companies have massive losses in the future. IT IS ONLY A BICYCLE!
I could see a race bike used by UCI Pros costing that much, but not an endurance bike.
The bridge seat stays or whatever just look like a bottle opener.. Am I thirsty?
Got the Wilier Gran Turismo slr for half the price.
There's an X1 too...
16k is crazy. You get what you pay for tbh.
nice bike, i wish pina didnt name it dogma though. kinda lowers the bar of my F
Love this bike. Not crazy about the t-rex arm derailer
Just be careful. Chris Miller got demonetised for using the word X-Stays in his pinarello vid because the TH-cam algorithm thought it was a nefarious word.
lol no problem
All this time, I thought Italians were against abortions...
It really shows how far behind Campy is in technology. This brand used to excite but no longer is a nameplate that most people are impressed by. I would pay the price if there was that much value over other brands but that is not even close to being worth it.
Now, that’s a bike!
Before watch no is not ...
Pure endurance, campy 12 speed don't match,
I feel like they do, campy to me is the endurance bike of groups
@@GCPerformance18 cost wise🤣🤣
On a different note, endurance guys tend to ride a lot and go to a lot of places, something that lasts and is easily serviceable without gimmicks will be better, don't u think?
Pinarello Dog Max
Strewth...he said X....😮😉
Nice bike1 But who the hell can afford a $16 thousand dollar bike now a days? Only for the rich lol
Roubaix sl8 anyday..
This cant be endurance its just marketing gimmic let the test rider of Pinarello or you do Paris Brest Paris in this and tell us the truth. What is the defination long ride...😅 1800 kms or 200
Wheels are better than the bike 😏
No bike is worth $16,000! The bike industry has lost their freaking minds. This only adds to this being an "elitist" hobby.
"Is this the best endurance bike" -> "$16 grand" 'Campy". Rhetorical question I guess.
The Pinarello looks terrible.
I got the LOOK 795 LIGHT OF 2017.
IT LOOKS TERRIBLE TOO.😂❤
Я дурак смазал цэпи звездочки солидолом и велик тежелым стал догадалса все оасчистил смазал маслом для мензопилы и велик взлетел как ракета.
$ 1,000 Per LBS
Without TT bars, it's hard to even consider this an endurance bike, and any cheap bike that has TT bars will blow this out of the water even if its an 8th of the cost.
I like my women how I like my bicycles, heavy.
Endu A ro
The price of top end bikes are embarrassing...my son bought a new Honda CBR 650R and It's over 3k cheaper than this push bike.
People have too much money and gullible to get these bikes. Get a ritchey logic. Put some nice groupset and wheelset. Worry more about getting fit rather than getting a 16k bike😊