Sam - the one thing that's not discussed as often as it should is: how much of a loss it would be for the world of motoring were mclaren to go out of business. this is a small, independent manufacturer of carbon-tubbed, dihedral-doored, mid-engined supercars with hydraulic steering, that makes cars that can be purchased by anyone with the requisite cash - unlike the elitists at ferrari, who by the way use aluminum frames and electric steering. supporting mclaren is akin to being a fan of a smaller indie band and not, say, u2. both are sorely needed! excellent review.
A well deserved a huge compliment that Mclaren recognize just how influential opinions and ownership experiences are from people like yourself in the automotive world. I truly hope Mclaren can move forwards with reliability.
All these cars should have a “5 minutes to home” button where they just recharge their batteries. it’ hassle free and it would always allow you to leave home on a full charge.
Problem is that current PHEVs tend to do exactly the opposite: all my PHEVs, when driving with navigation on, use the hybrid system in a way that my battery is empty when I arrive at he destination. The idea is that they assume that anywhere you're going there's a charger (especially at home), and it's best to maximise your electricity use and minimise combustion engine use. That's why when I did a round trip somewhere I always had to program the navigation with the full round trip meaning I punch in both the destination and the trip back home. I had to learn how to program multi-leg journeys into the nav.
@@pistonburner6448 exactly. That’s why we really need a button like that. You press it, it overrides everything, and you’re sure that when you arrive, the batteries will be full.
@@pklimbic Yup, or more (physical knob!) controls to tell the system what you want it to do! A knob each to adjust: -How much you want the hybrid system to give a boost during spirited driving. -A separate knob to select how much electric motor use you want the computer to work in when cruising normally (to adjust the rate at which the charge drops overall during a journey, instead of having to use the nav to let the car control it). -Rate of recuperation. This is so we can fill up the battery when we want, at the rate we need. It's so much less efficient to "emergency-fill" the battery very quickly using the engine and more efficient to slowly fill it up with recuperation alone, so it makes sense to be able to choose the rate according to your situation. -A separate engine preparation button to tell it to start up and begin heating up the engine. -A separate button to use the engine to heat up the car and battery (they really should be able to use the engine heat to keep the battery up to temp, not waste electricity for that), with minimal consumption. This is so that in cold weather you can avoid using up all of your battery to heat up the cabin with the very inefficient electric heater. Just maximise the whole warmup using the more efficient combustion heat. Actually I'd suggest a that if the button isn't clicked off the computer would keep using the engine heat optimally to keep the car heated up, starting it up periodically when necessary even when in electric mode. Electric heating just drains the battery.
@@pklimbic Actually come to think of it one of my previous PHEVs had a "hold charge" function which ensured that it kept the battery at its current level. I don't remember if it was the BMW or Mercedes. I'm pretty sure it was the Mercedes.
Been watching you since you've had 50k, and the way you present yourself now compared to back then is incredible really an outstanding work of entertaining us. - You've added a lot of good character to yourself which is nice to watch atleast from a viewers perspective.
One day off a week from work being a mechanic, being able to wake up and enjoy my favorite automotive channel as well as a warm cup of coffee always makes my morning. Thank you and love your videos form the USA
Really happy to hear the positive praise for the car. Hopefully McLaren have turned a corner for the better now. It doesn't feel 2 years too late for me. I would love to see what Tony thinks of the car once he has a chance to drive it.
Happy to hear you had a great experience and loved the car. Loved your video. I have a 600LT Spider that’s an absolute treat to drive. These cars are amazing. Too bad the prior reputation turns people off. They are missing a truly special brand. On the reliability front, I see (in the US) the Artura comes with a 5 year 45000 mile warranty and 6 years on the battery. The must feel quite confident they have it sorted out!
McLaren _could_ program the engine to start automatically when the battery reaches 10% or so. That would help with battery life, and could be done via an update. I gotta say, it looks the goods! Better than the 296, imo.
I can never understand why your subscription numbers increase so slowly or are so low compared to other channels. Your videos are so well done and the content is always great. Keep up the great work
It was good to mention the nsx. The infotainment might look a bit old, but of course it works fine. It's interesting how different the 3 hybrid v6 supercars are. Manic inanity from the 296, good all rounder from the artura, and torque vectoring reliable honda. All great options.
im sure everyone is saying the same but your videos are so good in terms of reviews.....who else gets up that early to just go and USE a press car and do it properly and also make a superb video to watch also. Keep going sam your smashing it
It's kind of mind-blowing that an entry-level McLaren that everyone calls the baby McLaren still costs almost 300K euros. That was big boy supercar money not that while ago. Even the new Aventador is a half-a-million euro car. Crazy where prices have gone. Good car the Artura is tough.
You're only looking at one side of the equation though. Look at the performance even a baby McLaren is offering. Same for the 1000 bhp Aventador. It's just how the industry works I guess. The m3 more like an m5 now with the m2 almost becoming the m3
Always a genuine reviewer of cars I think Sam represents, like he said he gave this almost everything and it didn't put a foot wrong, Go Mclaren 👍 from STG.
The thing I am most impressed with is the weight. Mclaren has made a hybrid supercar that weighs around 3300 pounds (1496 kg) which might make it the lightest hybrid supercar (not counting the holy trinity or other hypercars). And unlike Ferrari, Mclaren qoutes accurate curb weights.
god only knows how Sam forgot to mention that the instrument cluster is mounted on the steering column so when you adjust your driving position you always have the complete view of it all the rest of the video is great as usual tho! I quite like this Artura, I've sat in it more than a year ago for the first time (a static expo one) and it felt good from the get-go.
Good one Sam! Editing is really sharp, you have come such a long way overall and that is awe-inspiring for sure. Hope MCL take your feedback to heart. Maybe Tony, Phil and you can do a roadtrip this year with McLarens to revisit Ireland for instance. Hope the factory does well with the Artura. As always, thanks 👍😊 Btw, I heard myself say, here we have 'a pantograph wiper moment' so thank you HubNut.
Great vid as usual Sam! I actually started this thinking, not a car I am interested in, but you certainly laid lots of praise on it. The concern is always reliability, expensive warranties and huge depreciation. One to watch. The consideration though is surely a 296GTB on finance would be a stronger buy and with its warranty and free servicing it win in the end. One for Tony on the next Podcast!
All you need is a button as found in BMW hybrids that maintains/recharges your battery to a set level that you decide just incase you need electric ⚡ for the last leg of your journey into a emission free journey. It's thirsty work for the engine, but on a motorway it's easy and not inner city, so better than nout!
I have to say, I always appreciate the visual qualify of your videos. Watching not only in 4k but also actual quality 4k is very nice. It makes the car porn that much better.
DIsagree Sam on the lift. 570s is just lift the lever, doesn't matter about any menus.... just lift the lever, hold for 2 seconds, green symbol comes up on the dash, let go of the lever and it continues to rise until in full lift.
Best looking McClaren yet! I can't believe it took this long for McClaren to install an LSD. I'd still buy the Turbo S for reliability and repeatability! But I think Mclaren is getting there...
Great video and looks like you stopped at Craven Arms for fuel and Ludlow is a great place too (not technically Wales though for those bits ;) ). The Artura looks to be a fantastic machine, really nicely presented too. Keep up the great work.
I rarely comment on these videos but i find the filmography remarkable -assuming you do everything yourself-. The soundtrack is pleasant, relaxing actually. I simply had a lovely time watching this review. As to the car? McL have a huge effort to make to disprove their reputation. £190k plus options? You’d have to be barking mad.
At 6.40 in this video the menu is displaying that allows the driver to simply toggle the power train map to maximise charge... this will re-establish range and limit deployment of this range until either turning this off again or entering Electric mode
Just FYI Sam the word “Binnacle” has been around for hundreds of years ( originally a housing for a ships compass😂) so McLaren can’t claim that one , great vid as always .
Aren’t you able, even in comfort mode, so far I know, to control the battery charge level using the small left stick at the steering wheel?! If I remember right it did work for me
Have to say this is one of the best looking cars on sale. Partly it’s the right size for the UK but the proportions are right. Have you seen how wide a 296 is
What a small world. A relative of mine built that Ludlow farm shop. They used to live around the corner and we would walk over and have a coffee when I'd go to visit. Great video. I still feel its a shame they are going with a hybrid system, it would be terrific without the extra weight and sticking to a V8. Hey ho.
I have mixed feelings about hybrids. I daily drive a Porsche Cayenne S E-Hybrid. It started out having about 15 miles of electric range. Now after several years the most I can get is about 9 miles. (A 40% decrease). It is enough I can take my daughter to school and back on pure electric. Which is good to not have to heat cycle the engine. But that’s not my main gripe. If driving in electric mode and I have to step on it to merge on the highway, the cold engine kicks on and feels gutless until it warms. You can feel the stain on the engine while it’s cold.
Sam You are forgetting about the NSX hybrid that You tested as well. And to be Honest that would be my pick for a Hybrid Super Sport car. More reliable then the McLaren and half the price is not more then the 296 with 90% of the performance. Plus it has all weather four wheel drive that the McLaren and 296 don't have. Yes the cabin of the NSX isn't as nice but it has physical buttons (take note Ferrari) and it will be more rare than both of the other McLaren and Ferrari. As usual an interesting review!
even all electric mode should pop into comfort when the battery runs out, thats a simple s/w thing they should have thought of.....like every one else has ! And, as with my hybrid merc, i would say you need min 20% to ensure any of the sport modes get battery assist, you'll use that up in no time flat out
you didn't really end about the ev recharging to see if it got better after learning how it works. Also, after BTG saying driving in first gear to charge. Did it get better or closer to the Ferrari?
I can’t believe so many people over look the NSX, for the money and ability it’s amazing. I drive my NSX almost everyday along with my AMG GTR that is tuned.
Shmee has been documenting his experiences with his SF90 (similar hybrid setup to 296). He has to put it all the way up into qualify mode to make it charge the batteries if he wants EV range for later, otherwise the Ferraris also will completely deplete the battery in normal driving. I wouldn't compare this to 296 though, too much of a price and power difference. I see this mainly going against 911 Turbo S, R8, C8 ERay, and NSX Type S
Sounds like the car has a lot going for it. Especially that confidence and playfulness that one might not get from a 296. Even though it's more expensive than you expected it's a very attractive proposition at this price point. Can't wait for Porsche's take on a hybrid V6 sport/supercar!
I’m a bit confused. I run a PHEV (sadly not an Artura) - when the battery is depleted it swaps to being a standard hybrid, ie the engine kicks in To power the car. You absolutely shouldn’t have to change modes for that to happen. Also why are you trying to charge the battery when you’re driving? The car will sort itself out and the battery charge should be irrelevant. It’s turned itself into a series/parallel hybrid like a Prius then. Then when you get home you plug it in get a full battery for your 16 mile commute to work (?!). If you want performance then you put it in sport and the car will charge the battery when you’re decelerating vigorously into a corner presumably?
What strikes me with this car is the UI... the way you interact with things in this seem way better than in the Ferrari 296, seem none likes that in the Ferrari... so good on McLaren, hopefully reliablity will have improved. The hybrid stuff seemed weird, maybe something was not working as it should have? You'd think it would recharge in all mode when needed, for example when you're not pushing that much, why not recharge a little?
Friend of mine who is a McLaren owner was invited out to test drive these and I went with him. In my opinion this car is kind of a bust compared to the other models. No way to slice it the 6 cylinder is a downgrade from the V8 models. Plus some of the interior parts are questionable like the drive mode. Can`t believe someone would buy this over a V8 model.
what is a "cold start procedure"? An ICE engine should, under normal circumstances, receive a load immediately (load not high revs) in order to warm up quickly which is why it is also always recommended to drive off straight a way from cold with any ice powered car. What is this "procedure" with McLarens then?
Sam, how did the hybrid system boost performance? The system sounds quite limited. Does it fill performance dips, like while shifting gears, during acceleration? When the battery is empty, how is maximum performance? The system sounds like its only there to get a lower emissions rating?
Sounds like they've not properly resolved the integration of battery and ICE. To not automatically start the ICE when the battery is nearlt depleted, I would have thought was potentially dangerous but also more likely to cause damage to the batteries.
No damage, the systems don't actually let the battery ever drain. When a hybrid slows down it's because the computer is doing it. There's always plenty of buffer.
@@pistonburner6448 I realise that but, constant amounts of excessive drain before the engine kicks in will degrade that batteries at a higher rate, and reduce their life, hence why I said "damage". I know that completely draining lithium batteries kills them and you always have a buffer. I still think they haven't properly resolved the link between battery and ICE.
@@alunjones2550 There is no more drain, no higher drain rate than in any other situation or on any other hybrid. Maybe it could warn inattentive drivers beforehand, but I don't see this configuration to be bad. It just gives the driver the options to do what he wants without the computer automatically intervening. People who know how the system works will know how to use it and not be surprised by that situation.
Now that you're a father Sam, and considering you've reviewed family cars before (BMW X3) Would you consider doing more slightly regular car reviews, like the Volvo XC40 or XC60? I know that's not really your thing but it would still be really interesting to watch.
@@capcohan931 Why are you spreading misinformation? China owns all of Volvo, at least 82% of it belongs to Geely (which is controlled by the Chinese government and army)!! The chairman of Volvo Cars Group is Li Shufu, who is also chairman of Geely! What on Earth would make you lie like that?
The reliability issues as reported by TH-camrs is a small subset of the population. My 2019 600LT has been trouble free for years and that aligns with the experiences of many other owners I’ve met. Can’t blame the Arturo for operator error.
I agree that from what I've read the main problem seems to be largely (some) dealers and maybe also previously the sign-off process at the factory. All cars have some reliability issues, and it's hard to say how many McLaren has percentage-wise, if they have any more than others. Reading many anecdotal reports from owners does not provide reliable data of how many issues they have overall or compared to other brands. But what seems to be common in many of these things is dealers keeping on messing up horribly with cars delivered with faults/blemishes, then when there is a small repair done they miss another issue or cause another, and it's a cycle of constant muck-ups by them! Missed software updates, cars sitting for weeks without anything being done, then delivered with blaring faults not noticed. It doesn't seem like the cars themselves have huge faults or that horribly many of them either, it's the dealers.
Great that you loved it at the end - but you clearly didn't love the EV experience at the start. So did the EV concept improve with driving on interesting roads or did you just forget about it and drive it hard on the engine while enjoying the handling and ride?
Very nice car. Hopefully they come with better colour for interior and exterior, this car was very dull. The carplay is fantastic to see. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Nice to hear you giving such great appraisal of this McLaren considering your comparison with the 296 GTB on a previous podcast. I also believe that McLaren are giving a FIVE YEAR warranty on this vehicle which if true is also gives confidence on this car ….. come on it’s fantastic …. What would make it perfect for me is that it’s a pity in its design it does not have rear access like the 570GT then perfection ?
Well, after that 5 year warranty (and any additional warranty the battery and hybrid system has) is up unless you can get extended warranties later on: the values will absolutely crash! If you think maintenance on a supercar is bad, then imagine an old hybrid supercar! I've had things break in my EVs and PHEVs and they've all been massively expensive (but I've had warranty cover them, I'd never own one out of warranty). Just one high voltage control module (not even the battery) breaks in a normal BMW PHEV sedan and it costs as much as a full engine swap in many normal cars! And the mechanics said it's not at all unusual for PHEVs to just get a slight spike of excess voltage from some fault in the charger and it instantly breaks the module. And no-one repairs those modules, so you have to swap out the whole expensive box. Of course supercars are not everyday cars and the price equations are very different: if due to this you can later on get these hybrid supercars super cheaply then it might actually be good for some people. If you know a guy who can repair those systems cheaply then you get a normally massively expensive supercar with a massive discount, and that discount might cover any expensive repairs you have to do, balancing things out.
Yeh really doubt the next GT will follow this design because of the chimney. I heard McLaren have invested heavily in their monocell development, so I'm really hoping now the GT cars (GT and Speedtails) will have their own unique monocell designed specifically to accomadate those cars, maybe we could even see a return of the front mid engine like the SLR!
@@pistonburner6448 Well once the five year cover expires then you can turn to Thorney Motorsports and get a warrantee for around £2.5K per year ? So it’s not all that bad ?
@@larssonk22 good points made there ….. Thorney Motorsports announced very recently that they now can adapt the IRIS system to accommodate Apple car play and Android Auto ? Plus a warranty for around £2.5K so it’s not all that bad ?
@@conner.9262 Yup, if it's still at that price for these hybrid cars and it covers the full hybrid system then sure, that's a solution. But Thorney Motorsports probably doesn't cover all cars around the globe?
If I ever won lotto (LOL) the 765 will be the supercar at the front of my pick! Its amazing yes!! And Sam, you deserve way more subscriber's! Great vis mate, cheers.
Hey sam, you mentioned you were a bit confused by the hybrid stuff at the start of your journey. Did that get easier to understand/ did the battery start to recharge better?
Supercars should have had this architecture a decade ago , batteries would have been lighter . The claimed weight on the 296 is really underrated . Fun V6 powerhouses , only need more logical buttons .
Sam - the one thing that's not discussed as often as it should is: how much of a loss it would be for the world of motoring were mclaren to go out of business.
this is a small, independent manufacturer of carbon-tubbed, dihedral-doored, mid-engined supercars with hydraulic steering, that makes cars that can be purchased by anyone with the requisite cash - unlike the elitists at ferrari, who by the way use aluminum frames and electric steering.
supporting mclaren is akin to being a fan of a smaller indie band and not, say, u2. both are sorely needed! excellent review.
They should make an SUV like Porsche did then pour their profit back into their supercars.
A well deserved a huge compliment that Mclaren recognize just how influential opinions and ownership experiences are from people like yourself in the automotive world. I truly hope Mclaren can move forwards with reliability.
Fun review but why isn't it mentioned its the exact same electric motor as in Ferrari 296?
All these cars should have a “5 minutes to home” button where they just recharge their batteries. it’ hassle free and it would always allow you to leave home on a full charge.
Problem is that current PHEVs tend to do exactly the opposite: all my PHEVs, when driving with navigation on, use the hybrid system in a way that my battery is empty when I arrive at he destination. The idea is that they assume that anywhere you're going there's a charger (especially at home), and it's best to maximise your electricity use and minimise combustion engine use. That's why when I did a round trip somewhere I always had to program the navigation with the full round trip meaning I punch in both the destination and the trip back home. I had to learn how to program multi-leg journeys into the nav.
@@pistonburner6448 exactly. That’s why we really need a button like that. You press it, it overrides everything, and you’re sure that when you arrive, the batteries will be full.
@@pklimbic Yup, or more (physical knob!) controls to tell the system what you want it to do! A knob each to adjust:
-How much you want the hybrid system to give a boost during spirited driving.
-A separate knob to select how much electric motor use you want the computer to work in when cruising normally (to adjust the rate at which the charge drops overall during a journey, instead of having to use the nav to let the car control it).
-Rate of recuperation. This is so we can fill up the battery when we want, at the rate we need. It's so much less efficient to "emergency-fill" the battery very quickly using the engine and more efficient to slowly fill it up with recuperation alone, so it makes sense to be able to choose the rate according to your situation.
-A separate engine preparation button to tell it to start up and begin heating up the engine.
-A separate button to use the engine to heat up the car and battery (they really should be able to use the engine heat to keep the battery up to temp, not waste electricity for that), with minimal consumption. This is so that in cold weather you can avoid using up all of your battery to heat up the cabin with the very inefficient electric heater. Just maximise the whole warmup using the more efficient combustion heat.
Actually I'd suggest a that if the button isn't clicked off the computer would keep using the engine heat optimally to keep the car heated up, starting it up periodically when necessary even when in electric mode. Electric heating just drains the battery.
@@pklimbic Actually come to think of it one of my previous PHEVs had a "hold charge" function which ensured that it kept the battery at its current level. I don't remember if it was the BMW or Mercedes. I'm pretty sure it was the Mercedes.
evs are cool if ur mentally ill and cant figure out the NWO global depop plan
Been watching you since you've had 50k, and the way you present yourself now compared to back then is incredible really an outstanding work of entertaining us.
- You've added a lot of good character to yourself which is nice to watch atleast from a viewers perspective.
He also added a little character into his wife.
@@pistonburner6448 heyooo!
@@pistonburner6448 LOL
One day off a week from work being a mechanic, being able to wake up and enjoy my favorite automotive channel as well as a warm cup of coffee always makes my morning. Thank you and love your videos form the USA
Thank you for keeping our prides and joys on the road sir!!
@@uzzisa1745 for the love of cars right 😃
That over-the-shoulder camera angle while enjoying some proper roads is great 😃
Really happy to hear the positive praise for the car. Hopefully McLaren have turned a corner for the better now. It doesn't feel 2 years too late for me.
I would love to see what Tony thinks of the car once he has a chance to drive it.
I actually saw 3 Arturas Thursday or Friday when i was driving home from work in Austria. They are beautiful cars
Happy to hear you had a great experience and loved the car. Loved your video.
I have a 600LT Spider that’s an absolute treat to drive. These cars are amazing. Too bad the prior reputation turns people off. They are missing a truly special brand.
On the reliability front, I see (in the US) the Artura comes with a 5 year 45000 mile warranty and 6 years on the battery. The must feel quite confident they have it sorted out!
Always fun watching the video after hearing about it in the podcast.
McLaren _could_ program the engine to start automatically when the battery reaches 10% or so. That would help with battery life, and could be done via an update. I gotta say, it looks the goods! Better than the 296, imo.
It became kind of a tradition for me to drink my sunday espresso while watching Sam's vids. Keep up the good work!
I can never understand why your subscription numbers increase so slowly or are so low compared to other channels. Your videos are so well done and the content is always great. Keep up the great work
It was good to mention the nsx. The infotainment might look a bit old, but of course it works fine. It's interesting how different the 3 hybrid v6 supercars are. Manic inanity from the 296, good all rounder from the artura, and torque vectoring reliable honda. All great options.
im sure everyone is saying the same but your videos are so good in terms of reviews.....who else gets up that early to just go and USE a press car and do it properly and also make a superb video to watch also. Keep going sam your smashing it
It's kind of mind-blowing that an entry-level McLaren that everyone calls the baby McLaren still costs almost 300K euros. That was big boy supercar money not that while ago. Even the new Aventador is a half-a-million euro car. Crazy where prices have gone. Good car the Artura is tough.
You're only looking at one side of the equation though. Look at the performance even a baby McLaren is offering. Same for the 1000 bhp Aventador. It's just how the industry works I guess. The m3 more like an m5 now with the m2 almost becoming the m3
Always a genuine reviewer of cars I think Sam represents, like he said he gave this almost everything and it didn't put a foot wrong, Go Mclaren 👍 from STG.
Absolutely love the spec and the design. Another brilliant video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The thing I am most impressed with is the weight. Mclaren has made a hybrid supercar that weighs around 3300 pounds (1496 kg) which might make it the lightest hybrid supercar (not counting the holy trinity or other hypercars). And unlike Ferrari, Mclaren qoutes accurate curb weights.
I was really hoping for a positive review of this car. Im on the edge of ordering one for all the reasons you stated. Thank you Sam!
I have been daily driving my Artura for a year and a half and love it!
god only knows how Sam forgot to mention that the instrument cluster is mounted on the steering column so when you adjust your driving position you always have the complete view of it all the rest of the video is great as usual tho! I quite like this Artura, I've sat in it more than a year ago for the first time (a static expo one) and it felt good from the get-go.
Good one Sam! Editing is really sharp, you have come such a long way overall and that is awe-inspiring for sure. Hope MCL take your feedback to heart. Maybe
Tony, Phil and you can do a roadtrip this year with McLarens to revisit Ireland for instance. Hope the factory does well with the Artura. As always, thanks 👍😊
Btw, I heard myself say, here we have 'a pantograph wiper moment' so thank you HubNut.
Great Editing My Bro, Watching And Sending Love From Bangladesh
Great vid as usual Sam! I actually started this thinking, not a car I am interested in, but you certainly laid lots of praise on it. The concern is always reliability, expensive warranties and huge depreciation. One to watch. The consideration though is surely a 296GTB on finance would be a stronger buy and with its warranty and free servicing it win in the end. One for Tony on the next Podcast!
All you need is a button as found in BMW hybrids that maintains/recharges your battery to a set level that you decide just incase you need electric ⚡ for the last leg of your journey into a emission free journey. It's thirsty work for the engine, but on a motorway it's easy and not inner city, so better than nout!
I love how not biased your reviews are brother, keep that genuine honesty, it's why we subscribe! 😁
Awesome review.
I have to say, I always appreciate the visual qualify of your videos. Watching not only in 4k but also actual quality 4k is very nice. It makes the car porn that much better.
DIsagree Sam on the lift. 570s is just lift the lever, doesn't matter about any menus.... just lift the lever, hold for 2 seconds, green symbol comes up on the dash, let go of the lever and it continues to rise until in full lift.
Best looking McClaren yet! I can't believe it took this long for McClaren to install an LSD. I'd still buy the Turbo S for reliability and repeatability! But I think Mclaren is getting there...
Sam was using the damp roads to get in some cheeky sliding time.
Great video and looks like you stopped at Craven Arms for fuel and Ludlow is a great place too (not technically Wales though for those bits ;) ). The Artura looks to be a fantastic machine, really nicely presented too. Keep up the great work.
I rarely comment on these videos but i find the filmography remarkable -assuming you do everything yourself-. The soundtrack is pleasant, relaxing actually. I simply had a lovely time watching this review. As to the car? McL have a huge effort to make to disprove their reputation. £190k plus options? You’d have to be barking mad.
Love it! The controls that can be reached from the steering reminds me of 1960s Lancias.
At 6.40 in this video the menu is displaying that allows the driver to simply toggle the power train map to maximise charge... this will re-establish range and limit deployment of this range until either turning this off again or entering Electric mode
Completely underrated channel.
You should come up to ilkley in Yorkshire. There’s some great roads up here
Cant beat God's Own👍👍
Never been a McLaren guy. But there's just something about a small British sports cars that's hard to resist. And it looks this definitely has that
Just FYI Sam the word “Binnacle” has been around for hundreds of years ( originally a housing for a ships compass😂) so McLaren can’t claim that one , great vid as always .
Haven't seen an Artura yet, but up here in Idaho McLarens are very rare. I've only seen one 570S.
I believe there's a lot more McLarens in places like Idaescort and Idacourtesan because they are more high income areas.
Aren’t you able, even in comfort mode, so far I know, to control the battery charge level using the small left stick at the steering wheel?! If I remember right it did work for me
@5:27 all I can hear is tony laughing when sam talks about losing speed on the motorway
Very good video I like these reviews very honest and a lot of effort has gone into shooting. Love it! I really like the McLaren also! Great car.
Looks like a decent little upgrade by McLaren. Hopefully it’s more reliable! Those sausage rolls are amazing by the way, great shout!
Have to say this is one of the best looking cars on sale. Partly it’s the right size for the UK but the proportions are right. Have you seen how wide a 296 is
Fantastic video Sam 👏 crazy how your able to film all of that solo!
I love the fact that you stopped at good old Harry Tuffins Sam, ha ha. Its not quite in Wales though… Quality video as always!
What a small world. A relative of mine built that Ludlow farm shop. They used to live around the corner and we would walk over and have a coffee when I'd go to visit. Great video. I still feel its a shame they are going with a hybrid system, it would be terrific without the extra weight and sticking to a V8. Hey ho.
I have mixed feelings about hybrids.
I daily drive a Porsche Cayenne S E-Hybrid. It started out having about 15 miles of electric range. Now after several years the most I can get is about 9 miles. (A 40% decrease).
It is enough I can take my daughter to school and back on pure electric. Which is good to not have to heat cycle the engine.
But that’s not my main gripe.
If driving in electric mode and I have to step on it to merge on the highway, the cold engine kicks on and feels gutless until it warms. You can feel the stain on the engine while it’s cold.
Sam You are forgetting about the NSX hybrid that You tested as well. And to be Honest that would be my pick for a Hybrid Super Sport car. More reliable then the McLaren and half the price is not more then the 296 with 90% of the performance. Plus it has all weather four wheel drive that the McLaren and 296 don't have. Yes the cabin of the NSX isn't as nice but it has physical buttons (take note Ferrari) and it will be more rare than both of the other McLaren and Ferrari. As usual an interesting review!
Superb it’s the 675LT....much more exclusive and beautiful
This was a great video! Was left wondering how the battery charged after thrashing it through those twisty roads.
Another cracking video Sam. Keep up the good work.
even all electric mode should pop into comfort when the battery runs out, thats a simple s/w thing they should have thought of.....like every one else has ! And, as with my hybrid merc, i would say you need min 20% to ensure any of the sport modes get battery assist, you'll use that up in no time flat out
Well done mclaren I’ve driven one and I too think it’s amazing,I drove from woking to Edinburgh and was smitten
love your review seen through glass respect and power wishing you wealth bryan
Great video, Sam! Love the spec, the red of the brake calipers, and the gray of the body match my university colors.
you didn't really end about the ev recharging to see if it got better after learning how it works. Also, after BTG saying driving in first gear to charge. Did it get better or closer to the Ferrari?
I can’t believe so many people over look the NSX, for the money and ability it’s amazing. I drive my NSX almost everyday along with my AMG GTR that is tuned.
NSX isn't for sale anymore.
Shmee has been documenting his experiences with his SF90 (similar hybrid setup to 296). He has to put it all the way up into qualify mode to make it charge the batteries if he wants EV range for later, otherwise the Ferraris also will completely deplete the battery in normal driving. I wouldn't compare this to 296 though, too much of a price and power difference. I see this mainly going against 911 Turbo S, R8, C8 ERay, and NSX Type S
Sounds like the car has a lot going for it. Especially that confidence and playfulness that one might not get from a 296. Even though it's more expensive than you expected it's a very attractive proposition at this price point. Can't wait for Porsche's take on a hybrid V6 sport/supercar!
296 is as good n better for sure . Porsche yes hopefully have a midship model above the 911 range .
NOBODY gets YOU more EXCITED when HE'S excited ABOUT a CAR than SAM!!!
I’m a bit confused. I run a PHEV (sadly not an Artura) - when the battery is depleted it swaps to being a standard hybrid, ie the engine kicks in To power the car. You absolutely shouldn’t have to change modes for that to happen. Also why are you trying to charge the battery when you’re driving? The car will sort itself out and the battery charge should be irrelevant. It’s turned itself into a series/parallel hybrid like a Prius then. Then when you get home you plug it in get a full battery for your 16 mile commute to work (?!). If you want performance then you put it in sport and the car will charge the battery when you’re decelerating vigorously into a corner presumably?
How did the regen go on the twisties then? What did it go up to, percentage wise? Will need a new exhaust once you get one, lol
If I remember these have no braking type regen, their biggest floor imo.
Looks really good in gray!
What strikes me with this car is the UI... the way you interact with things in this seem way better than in the Ferrari 296, seem none likes that in the Ferrari... so good on McLaren, hopefully reliablity will have improved. The hybrid stuff seemed weird, maybe something was not working as it should have? You'd think it would recharge in all mode when needed, for example when you're not pushing that much, why not recharge a little?
Friend of mine who is a McLaren owner was invited out to test drive these and I went with him. In my opinion this car is kind of a bust compared to the other models. No way to slice it the 6 cylinder is a downgrade from the V8 models. Plus some of the interior parts are questionable like the drive mode. Can`t believe someone would buy this over a V8 model.
Looks fabulous - I’d love one of these in light blue metallic with mid blue interior.
what is a "cold start procedure"? An ICE engine should, under normal circumstances, receive a load immediately (load not high revs) in order to warm up quickly which is why it is also always recommended to drive off straight a way from cold with any ice powered car. What is this "procedure" with McLarens then?
Sam, how did the hybrid system boost performance? The system sounds quite limited. Does it fill performance dips, like while shifting gears, during acceleration? When the battery is empty, how is maximum performance? The system sounds like its only there to get a lower emissions rating?
Wow side profile looks very similar to the Lotus Emira! Would love to see them side by side.
Sounds like they've not properly resolved the integration of battery and ICE. To not automatically start the ICE when the battery is nearlt depleted, I would have thought was potentially dangerous but also more likely to cause damage to the batteries.
No damage, the systems don't actually let the battery ever drain. When a hybrid slows down it's because the computer is doing it. There's always plenty of buffer.
@@pistonburner6448 I realise that but, constant amounts of excessive drain before the engine kicks in will degrade that batteries at a higher rate, and reduce their life, hence why I said "damage". I know that completely draining lithium batteries kills them and you always have a buffer. I still think they haven't properly resolved the link between battery and ICE.
@@alunjones2550 There is no more drain, no higher drain rate than in any other situation or on any other hybrid.
Maybe it could warn inattentive drivers beforehand, but I don't see this configuration to be bad. It just gives the driver the options to do what he wants without the computer automatically intervening. People who know how the system works will know how to use it and not be surprised by that situation.
Now that you're a father Sam, and considering you've reviewed family cars before (BMW X3) Would you consider doing more slightly regular car reviews, like the Volvo XC40 or XC60? I know that's not really your thing but it would still be really interesting to watch.
Those kind of reviews are already all over TH-cam!
@@hpman911 You're right, but they can't top STG quality and passion. They're too generic, like reading off a brochure.
I disagree: I'd absolutely NOT want people to keep helping out Chinese companies like Volvo by promoting their products.
@@pistonburner6448 They own only around 8%. Don't imagine too many profits go to them.
@@capcohan931 Why are you spreading misinformation? China owns all of Volvo, at least 82% of it belongs to Geely (which is controlled by the Chinese government and army)!! The chairman of Volvo Cars Group is Li Shufu, who is also chairman of Geely! What on Earth would make you lie like that?
I almost had forgotten about this brand.
The reliability issues as reported by TH-camrs is a small subset of the population. My 2019 600LT has been trouble free for years and that aligns with the experiences of many other owners I’ve met. Can’t blame the Arturo for operator error.
I agree that from what I've read the main problem seems to be largely (some) dealers and maybe also previously the sign-off process at the factory. All cars have some reliability issues, and it's hard to say how many McLaren has percentage-wise, if they have any more than others. Reading many anecdotal reports from owners does not provide reliable data of how many issues they have overall or compared to other brands.
But what seems to be common in many of these things is dealers keeping on messing up horribly with cars delivered with faults/blemishes, then when there is a small repair done they miss another issue or cause another, and it's a cycle of constant muck-ups by them! Missed software updates, cars sitting for weeks without anything being done, then delivered with blaring faults not noticed. It doesn't seem like the cars themselves have huge faults or that horribly many of them either, it's the dealers.
If you have a warranty , no need to be nervous, had a 600LT that was incredible , had a few issues , but got compensation , it’s all good 👍
@@timeservices697 Warranties tend to end. That's the problem. A risky car's value plummets as its warranty ends.
Great content as always. I love the Artura and the MC20. If you had to choose between the two which would you have in your garage?
Great video sam Glade McLaren is coming around.
Awesome video! I love the Artura!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video alhough slightly disappointed with your parking effort in Ludlow 😅
Love the artura and this video confirmed it
Beautiful car and and equally beautiful review.
Great that you loved it at the end - but you clearly didn't love the EV experience at the start. So did the EV concept improve with driving on interesting roads or did you just forget about it and drive it hard on the engine while enjoying the handling and ride?
Very nice car. Hopefully they come with better colour for interior and exterior, this car was very dull. The carplay is fantastic to see. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Nice to hear you giving such great appraisal of this McLaren considering your comparison with the 296 GTB on a previous podcast. I also believe that McLaren are giving a FIVE YEAR warranty on this vehicle which if true is also gives confidence on this car ….. come on it’s fantastic …. What would make it perfect for me is that it’s a pity in its design it does not have rear access like the 570GT then perfection ?
Well, after that 5 year warranty (and any additional warranty the battery and hybrid system has) is up unless you can get extended warranties later on: the values will absolutely crash! If you think maintenance on a supercar is bad, then imagine an old hybrid supercar!
I've had things break in my EVs and PHEVs and they've all been massively expensive (but I've had warranty cover them, I'd never own one out of warranty). Just one high voltage control module (not even the battery) breaks in a normal BMW PHEV sedan and it costs as much as a full engine swap in many normal cars! And the mechanics said it's not at all unusual for PHEVs to just get a slight spike of excess voltage from some fault in the charger and it instantly breaks the module. And no-one repairs those modules, so you have to swap out the whole expensive box.
Of course supercars are not everyday cars and the price equations are very different: if due to this you can later on get these hybrid supercars super cheaply then it might actually be good for some people. If you know a guy who can repair those systems cheaply then you get a normally massively expensive supercar with a massive discount, and that discount might cover any expensive repairs you have to do, balancing things out.
Yeh really doubt the next GT will follow this design because of the chimney. I heard McLaren have invested heavily in their monocell development, so I'm really hoping now the GT cars (GT and Speedtails) will have their own unique monocell designed specifically to accomadate those cars, maybe we could even see a return of the front mid engine like the SLR!
@@pistonburner6448 Well once the five year cover expires then you can turn to Thorney Motorsports and get a warrantee for around £2.5K per year ? So it’s not all that bad ?
@@larssonk22 good points made there ….. Thorney Motorsports announced very recently that they now can adapt the IRIS system to accommodate Apple car play and Android Auto ? Plus a warranty for around £2.5K so it’s not all that bad ?
@@conner.9262 Yup, if it's still at that price for these hybrid cars and it covers the full hybrid system then sure, that's a solution. But Thorney Motorsports probably doesn't cover all cars around the globe?
If I ever won lotto (LOL) the 765 will be the supercar at the front of my pick! Its amazing yes!!
And Sam, you deserve way more subscriber's! Great vis mate, cheers.
While i love the outside styling, performance etc - The interiors on McLarens need to come up to Ferrari or Porsche beauty
The constant buzzing during the interior filming was that the car battery or camera mic malfunction?
My SLIGHT issue with this car.... Is that when you go a bit crazy on the spec, you can end up in Mclaren 720S price bracket.
Might be wrong but isn’t over run not giving it high revs, but when you ease of the throttle?
Hey sam, you mentioned you were a bit confused by the hybrid stuff at the start of your journey. Did that get easier to understand/ did the battery start to recharge better?
Supercars should have had this architecture a decade ago , batteries would have been lighter . The claimed weight on the 296 is really underrated . Fun V6 powerhouses , only need more logical buttons .
Thanks Sam
Cool,...
Did I pass you early morning in Aberdyfi?.... it was definitely a Mc ?
would be good to get Mclaren's response to your findings
nice review. thx
The new McLaren Artura is sweet! 👌
Please tell us if the batery ended up charging after driving it
A nice insight into the car thanks. Did honing in Wales recharge the battery at all?
Would never buy Artura instead of a Turbo S
I think there's a menu option to quickly recharge the EV battery using the ICE while driving.