BMW R1300GS vs R1250GS test and comparison - what is DSA and why you need it.

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  • BMW R1300GS vs R1250GS (GS 1300 Trophy, GS 1300 Triple Black, GS 1300 Option 719 Tramuntana) in this direct side by side test / review and comparison which took place over 3 days, I have had the opportunity to compare the outgoing R1250GS Rallye (my own bike) with the new R1300GS in its base Light White option, but it was fully loaded with almost all the optional extras available in the catalogue.
    Sadly, the weather was not brilliant during these 3 days of testing (constant rain and wet roads) but this gave me an ideal opportunity to really see just how good this new R1300GS really is, used in real world condition that “us” GS owners normally ride our motorbikes.
    Simply put, it’s an amazing motorbike that has really improved over the out going R1250GS which many of us own and ride… and I really like it !
    I highly recommend going to your local BMW dealership and booking a test ride. Just make sure the dealership you use FULLY understands all the options and accessories and packs that can be fitted / ordered so that YOU have the best chance of ordering the perfect motorbike, in the right configuration for your riding requirements.
    This is just Part 1 of a new series of episodes that will cover all the new aspects of the new design along with in-depth technical reviews explaining the new technologies and especially how YOU can get the best from your new R1300GS.
    If you have any questions, just leave me a comment and I will reply…
    Hopefully you enjoy the content I create, so by Subscribing you are letting me know, that you appreciate the effort and time I invest in creating these episodes, and it also helps to grow and develop the channel.
    Best Wishes, Carl
    Chapter 1:
    00:00 Start
    05:00 Is it still a GS ?
    08:20 Improvements over the R1250GS
    09:26 The new windscreen
    11:11 The new gearbox
    12:46 Shorter rider improvements
    14:24 Suspension Improvements
    16:43 DSA and why you need it…
    18:36 Engine improvements
    20:30 The NEW Dynamic mode
    22:10 Improved final drive assembly
    25:54 New technologies for safety
    27:12 Disappointments ?
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  • @GeorgePatros
    @GeorgePatros 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My beloved 18yo K1200GT has reached the end of its life with me as an owner and I hope that will find a good home to go to.
    After I watched your video, I placed an order for the 1300GS almost immediately and I can't wait to get it and start adventuring again. The very BEST video I have ever watched, well done!!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi George, thank you for your feedback and I hope you enjoy your new R1300GS when it arrives 👍
      Best wishes Carl

  • @DocMagoo
    @DocMagoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks for another well produced video, great information as always. It's refreshing to hear relevant opinions from an owner of the previous generation bike too, vs the standard spiel served up by professional journalists. My 1250 is less than a year old so I wont be looking at an upgrade any time soon, but I really enjoyed your content, as always. Cheers from .au

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Doc, I also won’t be changing, I hope to have many more happy years on my 1250
      Carl 🙋🏻‍♂️🙏

  • @mvalspeed
    @mvalspeed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fabulous commentary. I also salute you for taking the time for the detailed and informative review around the improvements and shortcomings. Bravo.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you 🙏
      Your very welcome
      Carl

  • @subman6515
    @subman6515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really insightful and well-thought-out presentation. Very useful for me as I have just ordered one!! Great work keep it coming, mate 👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Subman, you will have to come back and let us know what you think once it arrives
      👍 Carl

  • @thewoodster8607
    @thewoodster8607 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Best comparison on You Tube. Thanks for taking the time to film, edit and post. Great stuff. My 1250 will have to do for a bit longer.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Woodster, thank you, and yes it does take time to put these episodes together. Just like you… my 1250 has a long road ahead of it, best wishes Carl

  • @siamadani
    @siamadani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant video with the most comprehensive coverage with excellent explanation of everything. Thank you and well done!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Sia, thank you 🙏 glad you enjoyed the episode.
      Regards Carl

  • @wimdamen2001
    @wimdamen2001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Really impressed with the details and quality of your videos. Thank you

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Willem, Thankyou and welcome to the channel, it’s a shame the 3 days were very wet for this first test, but even so it was a lot of fun.
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @grahamwelford5810
    @grahamwelford5810 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So sorry to hear you’ve been ill, love your reviews.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Graham, I think maybe your comment is for Matt from the channel The Bike Show… Matt has indeed been through a very difficult time and our thoughts and prayers are with him, he’s shown incredible courage with this a very difficult illness.
      Best wishes Carl

  • @mahdisalehi7964
    @mahdisalehi7964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Amazing review of the new GS, you explained it very well mate, being an owner of a 1250 made you able to run a very accurate comparison and I could feel the joy in in your voice while explaining the new improvement like the gearbox and the quick shifter. Thanks for the informative video.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello and welcome
      Glad you enjoyed it, and well spotted, I was certainly very impressed and tried not to be to "over excited" about it, I will keep my 1250 for now, but the 1300 is an amazing bike and if i didn't have my 2021/22 GS I would buy one in an instant... its that good.
      Kind Regards
      Carl

  • @HenrySk8r
    @HenrySk8r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very insightful perspectives - thankful you would take time to provide this much information and insights. Thanks for your great work on this!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Henry, thank you very much. Best wishes Carl

  • @kennybrookes5156
    @kennybrookes5156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid as usual Karl I find your vids like many others easy to follow everything is explained in simple understandable terms thank you for your time, keep it on the stops 🙏

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks 👍 Kenny, much appreciated, Carl

  • @eddypraet3536
    @eddypraet3536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This must be the best video I’ve seen so far on U tube about the new GS,well done👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Eddy, have a nice Sunday, Carl

  • @KameramannPeterKlein
    @KameramannPeterKlein 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very great comparison from you. Many things that I noticed during the test drive...!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Peter, thank you 🙏

  • @stellaracrobat
    @stellaracrobat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review - can’t wait for part 2 !

  • @nigehaworth
    @nigehaworth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for an interesting review Carl, far more valuable than the many ( boring) first impression reviews on other channels. I note that for now you are not personally planning to switch to the 1300, having the same 1250 Raylle version as yours, I’m delighted to hear that as I am hoping for more great content on your current bike. Keep up the great work!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Nigel, thank you for your feedback, yes i plan to continue with my 1250 Rallye and create more content, many other content creators are moving to the new 1300, which i do understand. But...I think there is still so much more to cover on the current 1250. I will however be covering the R1300GS in more detail once i receive another bike as the technology is extremely interesting and what BMW have achieved is quite amazing in such a compact package. They have been working on the 1300 for 5/6 years and this model is just the start of what's to come, I have no doubt that they are already working towards the next MKII version somewhere in Munich.
      I think the simplest way to some up my feelings is: if I did not currently own the 1250, I would not hesitate to buy the new R1300GS... it really is extremely good.
      Best wishes, carl

  • @Elskins
    @Elskins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your time and effort putting this video together, very very informative 👍 I wasn’t going to part ways with my 1250, but now I’m intrigued 😊

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well at least you can test and try the new GS and have a think !!
      Thank you for your feedback, regards Carl

  • @SCFoster
    @SCFoster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One of the best video comparisons of the R1300GS and R1250GS. Have a R1300GS on order and have watched a LOT of videos. This one of the best, so thanks for all the work you've done to put this together. I know it's not easy.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello Scott, Good evening and congratulations on your order which version have you chosen?
      And thank you for your feedback, more to come in January when hopefully the weather is dry.
      Kindest regards Carl

    • @SCFoster
      @SCFoster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justthewayitis Ordered the green 719 version. May need to wait a while as the initial USA orders are built on spec. I want the black forged wheels, not the gold ones.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice combination, the forged wheels are the ones to have 👍 and the green does look very nice too. Hope you don’t have to wait too long.

  • @r.a.r.5597
    @r.a.r.5597 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the kind of video and channel ive been looking for. Ive liked and subscribed!
    I almost bought my first 1250GS last year. I'm coming off of a Speed Triple and wanted to get into the adventure/tourer segment with a GS. I look forward to testing a 1300 - when I first got on the 1250 I felt like I've arrived at the bike I've always wanted. I am hopeful the 1300 feels that way too because the smoother gearbox and improved wind protection is important to me. Thanks for a great video - looking forward to the next.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello and welcome, thank you for subscribing.
      Do go and have a test ride, its an incredible motorbike and if your coming from the excellent Speed triple you will probably really like the new dynamic feel the 1300 has, over the 1250.
      Gearbox is a dream come true for us GS owners...
      Carl

  • @tristanmaclennan2989
    @tristanmaclennan2989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done, I really enjoyed your analysis and learned a lot from your blog. Thanks again

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Tristan, thank you 🙏 glad you enjoyed the episode.
      Regards Carl

  • @246browser
    @246browser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review. I'm pleased to have found this a sI have ordered a 1300, chopping in my 2019 1250. It was good to see that you can adjust the suspension as I felt that I would like to soften the ride back up in road mode, and you have shown me how to do it! Looking forward to part 2 and delivery in the next few weeks.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Congratulations 🙋🏻‍♂️ your going to have a fun of fun. And that sounds like a quick delivery date, lucky you 👍

  • @abccba3903
    @abccba3903 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What an excellent and thorough review. Your right, I’ve watched some of the big bike channels and they glossed over all the details you’ve captured. They convinced me I should be looking at a used GS1250, but you’ve made me realise the new bike is better in almost every way. As a Mechanical Engineer I appreciate all the details, especially in justifying such an expensive purchase. Great vid as usual, thanks.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you !!!
      I really think owners should try at least one model possibly two at their local dealerships, to get a feel for what is possible as each model is different.
      If i was buying new today, it would be the new R1300GS !
      and yes they are extremely expensive so making sure it meets all your needs as a rider and matches the type of roads you ride on is very important.
      Kind Regards Carl

  • @davidbutcher1690
    @davidbutcher1690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best review of the new model by far - the press seem to have missed the detail that you have provided. I will wait for the new GSA personally but your review of the standard model has answered a lot of questions for me. Great channel and great content from a motorcyclist not a journalist!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi David, thank you, your feedback is much appreciated, I think they are already testing the new GSA so we should know more early next year.
      Ultimately BMW will probably wait to see how this new GS version is received before deciding on the final look and specs of the GSA. its going to be very interesting.
      Carl

  • @BlackThor15
    @BlackThor15 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just subscribed to your channel and can only say what a great video, well done! 👍👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Nelio, and thank you for your feedback 🙋🏻‍♂️, kind regards Carl

  • @2BoldlyGo
    @2BoldlyGo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review Carl , looking forward to the next one 👍

  • @edtxw01
    @edtxw01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Carl, a very helpful explanation of the changes to the GS. The new engine and gearbox sound amazing.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Tony, thank you, I hope you get the opportunity to test one.
      Carl

  • @fredzuccarelli
    @fredzuccarelli 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another awesome review Carl!!!!!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Fred, Thank you !!!!

  • @crissignori7482
    @crissignori7482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First rate presentation Carl ... Bravo! Thanks ever so much.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, Carl

  • @brianb.2857
    @brianb.2857 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video with tons of useful information. Subscribed.

  • @CVO17-GSA23
    @CVO17-GSA23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good and most in detail video as always.

  • @RJ-yn3nu
    @RJ-yn3nu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good review, nice to hear from a R1250GS owner. Many of us will be thinking of the move, so a balanced discussion is helpful. Thanks.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi RJ, thank you 🙏

  • @curseofthetraveller8317
    @curseofthetraveller8317 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most beneficial comparison video between R1250&1300 gs. Thank you

  • @santiagoarechederra256
    @santiagoarechederra256 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EXCELLENT REVIEW. WILL FOLLOW EVERYTHING YOU PUT OUT ….👌👌👌

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much, kind Regards Carl

  • @savas6066
    @savas6066 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks a lot. very nice detailed comparison between R1300GS and R1250GS. That will definitely ease my decision on which one to go for.

  • @AtelierFMR
    @AtelierFMR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this excellent review !

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, your very welcome, Carl

  • @esuization
    @esuization 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video as always!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed!, Carl

  • @sandbiker
    @sandbiker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are fantastic. As an owner of a new 2023 1250GS, the 2024 changes are very interesting. Thanks for the time spent making your videos.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Sandbiker, thank you for your feedback and comments.
      Kind regards Carl

  • @billwaterhouse5894
    @billwaterhouse5894 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Details no one covers, like drive shaft angles and it’s benefits…fantastic. Great review, thank you (nice to have you back with BMW news).

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Bill, thank you for your feedback on this review, there is a lot more information to come.
      Kindest regards Carl

    • @feloniousmonk3049
      @feloniousmonk3049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BMW gives a lifetime warranty on the driveshaft on the 1250 GS. Not so with the 1300 GS, you get to pay to replace it every 60,000 KM, plus the 20k service intervals. Pretty expensive deal, if you ask me. Glad I bought the 2023 GS Trophy.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A lot of owners think the same and are pleased they have the 1250🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @RikkyTang
    @RikkyTang 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Carl, never seen you so excitable! 😁 The new GS looks like a lot of fun to dial-in and ride (perhaps to own haha) I'm looking forward to swinging my leg over one!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Rikky, your going to love the R1300R when it comes out, I bet on track with the slightly higher cylinders and stiffer suspension and more settings to play with, it will be a so much fun.
      Yes…. I was very impressed and excited 🙏👍
      However, I will stay with my 1250 for a while yet
      Have a great weekend
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @maurowind7617
    @maurowind7617 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for your honest and precise review! great work by BMW with this new bike.
    I think the "old" 1250 will still remain a great bike.
    and it will remain my bike for many years to come.... 😊 Well done Carl!👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you !!
      I think a lot of us are very happy with our current 1250 model.
      Carl

  • @Integrator22
    @Integrator22 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. Many thanks…❤

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Robert 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @MarkMario-cg1ek
    @MarkMario-cg1ek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Carl ! Great explanation of the new gs 👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Mark, thank you 🙏

  • @Chris-fz1ju7ru7e
    @Chris-fz1ju7ru7e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im really looking forward to your next video, hopefully won’t have to wait much longer?

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Chris, thank you 🙏, sadly I had a cancel the second bike due to snow and ice which was disappointing, but it’s rebooked for January. Carl

  • @MountainView21
    @MountainView21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Best 1300 overview currently available online, especially for 1250 owners like myself. Well done as usual!
    My only gripe with the "old" bike is the clunky gearbox with quickshifter which is embarrassingly bad in comparison to the rest of the bike. Having said that I can definitely live with it as and am not planning the upgrade for many more years.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yep, i feel the same, my 1250 will be staying for a good few years yet, but the new gearbox really is nice, its not totally perfect but its a massive improvement for the GS.
      As I've mentioned to a few replies here, if i currently didn't have my 1250 Rallye 2021/22, i would buy one !!
      Its that good
      Thank you for your feedback, Carl

    • @malcolmabram2957
      @malcolmabram2957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a 1250R. The quick shiftier is smooth and works well under acceleration, when one most needs it most, but it can lock on down change, but that does not bother me.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for sharing 🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @MountainView21
      @MountainView21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justthewayitis Maybe it’s better tuned on the R. On the GS also it works best between 2nd and 4th gear when accelerating with high revs but overall not great. It’s more annoying when you test ride a bike that does it better lol

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol, yes that right, when you use one that’s setup correctly and you go back to your own bike the difference is noticeable.
      Best wishes Carl

  • @stonecold2653
    @stonecold2653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After this review im very happy to keep my GSA 1250 2022. I got a nice back brake light, direct access to my heated grips .i wont have to shell out on indicators if i come off or tag a low branch. ive lost weight so my bikes actally 21.8 kgs lighter. My start button that i use less than my heated grips button is in a nice out of the way place and im not distracted utilizing at my menu when riding.well happy with my luggae locks.cant beat Mechanical's locks,. Bets thing on this bike is the adaptive cruise control radar. Greta content and one of the best reviews i have seen.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Stone Cold, I like the way you have thought this out and well done for your amazing weight loss 👍. Yes the new radar system and blind spot detection system are very well implemented.
      Have a great Sunday
      Carl

  • @andrewmason2879
    @andrewmason2879 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the review👍 I am looking to buying a new GS next spring. Never owned a BMW GS before so this is very useful and interesting information cheers 👍👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Andrew, your very welcome 🙏

  • @TallyHoTech
    @TallyHoTech 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this is gonna be epic and the best review on TH-cam.
    I will confess when this video popped up I had movement at the station.
    I think Crazy Carl needs a M 1000 XR

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL.... Hmmm M 1000 XR, I would lose my licence in a week....
      But i am looking forward to the M1300GS
      Carl

  • @kmohan24
    @kmohan24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this wonderful video. I really appreciate it. Lucid presentation.
    Question: Will the Nav 6 and Vario cases fit the 1300?
    Looking forward to your next videos.
    Thanks a lot.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello and thank you 🙏
      Vario cases will not fit sadly.
      But Navi 5/6 will and I tested my Navi 6 on the test bike.
      Regards Carl

  • @lpete531
    @lpete531 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The front comparison is smaller than the 1250, no one has shown that video shot, awesome review, thanks for sharing 👍🏽

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Pete, thanks for the feedback. Carl

  • @Texas2Tires
    @Texas2Tires 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lucky you to get to play on the new GS, thanks for sharing. I'm very glad to hear they sorted out the gearbox. I own a 2020 R 1250 RS and the quick shift assist is really clunky. I use it quite a bit, but only upshift on gears 3rd and above and down shift 6 to 2. The other line up from BMW like the RR, XR and K1600, the quick shift is very smooth.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it’s nice to finally see a nice improvement on the GS with the gearbox, actually quite a few other nice improvements too. I’m sure the R1300GS will arrive in North America soon.
      Thank you for sharing
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @CutzuPisi
    @CutzuPisi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And here I am, looking at my 2013 R1200GS .. grandpa still got it :))

  • @andypap7955
    @andypap7955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent review Carl - best yet - very comprehensive. Disappointing to see heater and suspension setting buttons disappear and be more complicated than necessary - need heating in Scotland !

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Andy, thank-you. yes your definitely going to need that seat and grip heating very soon up there.
      I think BMW could have put more effort into finding a different switch setup, and I have given them feedback.
      Carl

  • @slipthegreyhound
    @slipthegreyhound 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Carl. Best review I have viewed on TH-cam. All the others seem to be much of a muchness. Thanks

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Slip, Thankyou for your feedback 🙋🏻‍♂️ Carl

  • @sammyadventureTV
    @sammyadventureTV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the reasons I bought and love my 2021 1250 GS Ralley is the “tough” look with the crash bars and headlight grill. Late 2019 I gained interest in buying a GS after a trip in Vietnam riding a duel sport throughout the North. I waited til 2021 (after the pandemic) to buy. So happy I did. I’m sure the 1300 GS is a great bike - but honestly I’m just so happy with my GS. I am 6’2” and it’s just a great fit .

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Sammy, a lot of owners agree with you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
      Have a good week. Carl

  • @rodneyiszlaub1572
    @rodneyiszlaub1572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent review Carl. Spot on comments. My number 1 ‘go to for your reviews and look forward to your continued R1300 reviews, tyres and or comparisons. Why? Your concentration on the less subjective and more objective issues put them apart from the main stream commentators. My garage now includes both the R1300GS and R1250GS.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Rodney, thank you for your kind words, very much appreciated 👍. Lucky you to have both, are you enjoying the new 1300 ? And will you also keep the 1250?.
      FYI the 2 year review goes up next week on Friday
      Best wishes Carl

    • @rodneyiszlaub1572
      @rodneyiszlaub1572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@justthewayitisYes Carl, really enjoying the 1300. Still amazing me in all aspects of riding as I get use to the impressive dynamics of this bike. First service next week. The 1250 still a great bike and now looks like staying in the family with my son now returning to MC riding. Cheers, and looking forward to your ongoing greatly appreciated reviews.👌

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Rodney, I think your Son is going to be very happy, nice to hear you are enjoying the new GS 👍
      Have a great summer
      Carl

  • @MikeBMW1028
    @MikeBMW1028 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very tempting to move from my 1250 to the 1300 for many of the things that have been improved upon. However, I’m still loving my 2022 R1250GS and will see when the 1300 GSA version…and I’m guessing an M version comes out…before I make a change. Great video-I feel like you’re the kind of GS owner I identify with and value your point of view. Thanks for all the great content.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Mike, thank you and I like you will be waiting to hear more about the M1300GS, I did ask my contact at BMW, he said No Reply lol, so guess we just have to wait
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @geoffreykeown2878
    @geoffreykeown2878 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the info, great show

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Geoffrey, glad to hear you enjoyed this introduction video
      Regards Carl

  • @Hogdriver88
    @Hogdriver88 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Karl, outstanding work as always - I really enjoy your in-depth, no agenda reviews (flapper valve video was excellent👍). I don’t care for the bug-eyed KTM look of the headlight, or the profile of the rear of the frame on this, maybe in time. Will be interesting to see what they do with the future GSA and RT but for now, my ‘22 GSA is still awesome.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you 🙏, many will wait to see what they do for the GSA. Looks are an individual thing of course, thank you for your feedback
      Carl

  • @gsd32i
    @gsd32i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I appreciate the time and research that you have done to produce this video. Folks have no idea. As a 1250GS Triple Black owner, I just had to take my local dealers demo 1300 out. Thoughts, certainly more sporty and flickable and felt like a 750/900 from its reduced size. Gearbox made a noticeable whine and as you say about first gear, there was a kind of disconnect between the lever and the box as it took its time to engage. Loved the screen and thought he switchgear was fine, but why no back lit buttons? Radar stuff was great.The looks I kind of am not too sure about at the moment... as no doubt I do not sit in the newer BMW younger target range 😂 Bike will be easier to clean thanks to the Teflon frying pan finish over everything. Engine wise, mine has been hill topped and didn't notice major performance improvement if any.The bikes looks etc, I suspect will divide the GS community and be a talking point in many pubs and cafes 😂.For the extra money to change at this time I will not be swapping my GS1250.That will please the wife👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi GSD, firstly... your doing great with your channel its growing very well, and as you know its not easy and takes a lot of time to put these videos together. I also wont be changing certainly not yet... I'm going to wait until the M1300GS comes out and then have a look. I did very much like it, its certainly much more flickable and nimble, and the tech is lovely especially the new screen and the radar. Yes, LOL we both are in the upper age range and I remember BMW telling me the average is 58, I think !!!.
      You have a slight disadvantage with all your speed restrictions at home, I remember them well. I think the big difference is when the speed increases the new bike is much more composed and stable, and its going to attract a new younger audience.
      How the current GS/A community responds... we will just have to wait and see.
      Next time your in Germany, we should meet for a beer...
      Kindest Regards
      Carl

    • @gsd32i
      @gsd32i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@justthewayitis Thanks. I’ve now got 3 days flying out of Gatwick to look forward with the incoming storm. Should be entertaining , if only I could video that and post it😂

    • @AlessandroAbatePhotography
      @AlessandroAbatePhotography 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Keep your 1250GS Triple Black. It's just stunning.

  • @LiquidAudio
    @LiquidAudio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the excellent review and attention to detail so lacking elsewhere. I'm a 2023 R1250R owner and of course very interested to know when the new drivetrain makes its way into other models!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi LA, I’m also very interested in what the new R1300R is going to be like, if they have improved the seat / comfort I might change 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @kneedragger66
    @kneedragger66 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excellent video!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Jim 🙋🏻‍♂️🙏

  • @lajostresser482
    @lajostresser482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent report. Thank you.

  • @stephenpitner7369
    @stephenpitner7369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it Stephen, regards Carl

  • @OneManTrail
    @OneManTrail 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Sitting there in your garage, that 1250 looks 100 times better.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A lot of owners are probably going to agree with you... smile
      Carl

    • @Steck896
      @Steck896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Aesop wrote a beautiful tale a long time ago.
      It’s called “The fox and the grapes”. 😊

    • @thatguy7085
      @thatguy7085 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree. But I think it is due to the lack of crash bars etc…

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s true mine does, but still it’s very different, Carl

    • @Adventure_blac
      @Adventure_blac 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah it more sleek. But not in a better way. Kinda like and suv from 2010 to 2024

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:19 I’m delighted you mentioned the low position for Summer !! I live in Portugal and it’s really useful for me to have airflow in the Summer!

  • @hazarddavid6987
    @hazarddavid6987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As expected Carl, comprehensive and educational. Thumbs up👍
    I ll stay put with my 1250GS...at least for a year or two...
    (Mine is exactly like yours)

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you, yes no change for me at the moment, i will wait and see how the new bike develops over time.
      Carl

    • @FreeFlyFreak69
      @FreeFlyFreak69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justthewayitis
      Often best to skip the first year or two of a redesign.
      Let them work the inevitable bugs out.
      My preference is wait 5 years and then buy a used one from year 3ish

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a great way to approach it, and great value by then.
      Carl

  • @matthiasraab2611
    @matthiasraab2611 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Carl, this is a fabulous review, and you touch on the day-to-day issues that a driver encounters. The Option 719 is my first GS; I have been riding it for the last four weeks in Australia under all conditions. It is a fantastic bike and incredibly versatile. Your review and comments are spot on. Specifically, I like your thoughts on the menu and what I can select quickly with the available buttons. There was always one function short as I was playing with what two functions I should put on the Rocker switch. Heated grips, windscreen, and damping are the most frequently used ones. Another function that is too deeply hidden in the menu is turning the auxiliary lights on or off. I really like your suggestion to add a long press to the mode button. When driving at night, I also missed illuminated switches as I have yet to memorise to find all functions and switches in total darkness. Thanks for a practical and thoughtful review focussing on the rider's experience and what matters to get the most out of the new GS.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Matthias, congratulations on your new bike and thank you for your feedback on the video.
      I hope BMW make some small changes to the menu system but although I have given this suggestion directly to the development team, there seems no interest in updating the software 🙄.
      But best wishes to you
      Regards Carl

  • @piotrsebastianski9789
    @piotrsebastianski9789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the best comparison of the new GS model. After watching this video, I have a positive attitude towards the new GS. I also have a 1250 GS and similarly at night I miss the button backlight :) Thank you for the video Karol

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, yes its a shame about the handle bar controls, we will probably have to wait until the next generation or major update to see them added, which is disappointing.
      Best Wishes Carl

  • @TRANSIT28
    @TRANSIT28 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As always Carl very informative , I think it’s a backwards step and dangerous to have to scroll through a menu instead of a button system. I notice big changes to the drive shaft too. I’m not surprised at that obviously ! 👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, yes the changes and improvements to the whole drive assembly are overdue and very welcome.
      As to the menu, i have no idea why BMW didn't spend more time on this important aspect.
      Carl

  • @Beinhartwie1chopper
    @Beinhartwie1chopper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Real good review ❤

  • @jimcfds
    @jimcfds 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carl and I hope it’s not with a K, this is the first time I’ve seen one of your videos, but appreciate the detail and explanation you put into your review. It’s good to hear that BMW have made some great improvements to the bike, especially with the engine, gearbox, driveline and the technology. Unfortunately, I have a difficult time with the visuals, but maybe that will change as time passes.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Jim, yes it’s Carl, and thank you for your feedback 👍. The new version does look different and better in person, and like the models before it …acceptance of a new style takes time. Although some may never fully like the new look.
      Regards Carl

  • @laceyunderall68
    @laceyunderall68 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great to see a more comprehensive review as opposed to another “expert” critiquing based on an hour in the saddle. Good job!👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Guy, that make me smile, thank you
      Carl

  • @ryanmalone2681
    @ryanmalone2681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As usual, a great detailed explanation.
    I absolutely hate radar cruise control on cards. It robs me of the flow through traffic because it slams on the brakes and can't anticipate my lane changes. The blind spot warning system is great, but I use my GS offroad and will immediately remove them to replace them with Ram mount base mirrors that are crash-proof.
    The bike is definitely step forward, but I love my R1250 and there isn't enough to take off or replace all the customizations I have on my current bike to use this instead. After my extended warranty (6 years) runs out I will look at replacing, but that's 4.5 years away and there will probably be a new updated version!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Ryan, yes I’m sure by then an update will be released.
      It’s going to be interesting to see what they do with styling for the GSA, as I think overall the new GS look has not been well received my current owners.
      Have a great weekend
      Thank you for sharing…
      Regards Carl

  • @abyields7831
    @abyields7831 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the opportunity to get the 1300, though in my personal opinion love my 1200 GSA and 2024 1250 GSA. Thanks for the honest review!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi AB, congratulations on your new GS 🙋🏻‍♂️ and thank you for your feedback 👍
      Best wishes Carl

  • @creedm3040
    @creedm3040 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review! Best!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much appreciated!, Carl

  • @tedi6032
    @tedi6032 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Sir for the detailed review

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Teri, thank you 🙏

  • @markstemmett5296
    @markstemmett5296 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A very nice video, thank you. I also really like the 1300

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Mark, welcome to the channel and thank you for your feedback 👍
      Kind regards Carl 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @rsbharley4766
    @rsbharley4766 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    excellent video, thanks for sharing. Cheers

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Harley,have a great Sunday, Carl

  • @michaelvadney5803
    @michaelvadney5803 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a complete review! Thanks so much for all that work.
    I do think that I will be upgrading to this newer version. I did not know about the stretch from the seat to the handlebars growing. That's not good as I already have pull-back blocks for my 1250. Question: is the maintenance interval increased at all for the valve train?
    Thanks again!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello Michael, as mentioned below in response to similar questions about valve adjustment and service intervals , it remains the same, 6k small 12k big which includes valve check. As to handlebar settings, I have done a similar thing to you , up and back which I like, the new R1300GS has lots of options to make the fit (rider triangle) very similar to our bike setup, it’s just a case of talking this through with your dealership when choosing the spec of your new GS.
      The only big change in service requirements is currently the drive shaft also needs to be changed at 60k miles. I’m currently awaiting response from bmw …. if this is a must change or an inspection and change if required.
      Best the thing to do is go and have a test ride and see what you think. The adaptive ride height is very good indeed, as is the whole package from my perspective.
      Thank you for your feedback
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @johnalbone3372
    @johnalbone3372 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Carl
    I've had 2 test rides and now orderd one
    Agree about the lack of buttons for grips and sceen
    Damping not so worried as its automatically adusted
    Looking forward to the next part
    Mine arrives on March 1st
    John

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John, congratulations 🎉 March will arrive quickly and you have lots of time to plan a nice trip. Carl

  • @JohnGadsby-mi7ui
    @JohnGadsby-mi7ui 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video - clear, succinct, thoughtful - best I've seen on this bike yet. Not seen your vids before, subscribed on the basis of this one! I'm a 1250 RS rider - I like sports road riding & touring & am happy, but would like a slightly more relaxed position - the GS has never been a solution for me, especially due to my 29" inner leg measurement, but this (with the trick suspension) could be the answer. By the way - don't be fooled about living in southern Europe - I live in Valencia, Spain & up in the hills it gets barking cold in winter!!!😀

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John, thank you for subscribing and your feedback. A good friend of mine went from S1000RR to RS and he really likes it. I can imagine it’s cold in the mountains and Jan / Feb next year are I’m told going to be extremely cold.
      Best wishes Carl

  • @charlesbradley2943
    @charlesbradley2943 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. Good descriptions and explanations. So well done I I subscribed. Heard some complaints on engine noise for the new engine. What do you think ?
    Thanks

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Charles, and welcome to the channel, thank you !!. Yes the sound is different... possibly from the new cam timing chains, but once you have ridden it for a couple of hours you get used to the new sound. Carl

  • @FlashFlash-tb6vf
    @FlashFlash-tb6vf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding review!!!!
    100% spot on with headache of suspension and heated seat and grips being moved to a menu buried in the TFT. My friend just picked a new R 1300 GS Trophy with all the premium options. Bike looks outstanding. Love the flake finish on the wheels. That said, he was burning his @$$ because the rider seat was set to 3. He thought it was controlled by the passenger heat controls. I told him no because I have a 2022 R1250GS 40th.
    Anyway we got into the menu and turned it off. Bike looks fantastic in person. We are in Connecticut so he is one to take a very early delivery. He absolutely LOVES the bike.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congratulations on the new GS, nice to hear your friend is one of the first to receive one. 👍.
      They do look lovely don’t they 🙋🏻‍♂️.
      Kind regards Carl

  • @ukaszd.1268
    @ukaszd.1268 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank You. This is the best and most detailed comparison since I've been interested in the BMW R 1300 GS. I am currently starting my adventure with motorcycles. Maybe it's a crazy idea, but the first one will be the BMW R 1300 GS .🏍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Lukasz, thank you for your feedback and I’m pleased you enjoyed this episode from the channel. I wish you lots of motorbike adventures in the future . Carl

  • @marcfalardeau6058
    @marcfalardeau6058 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Carl, once more your presentation was top-notch with precise information concerning our GS! Diligent work! The question is: Will Carl switch his 1250 for the new 1300? 🤣 ( drumroll) Anxious for the next episode. Thank you sir, Marc Quebec, Canada 😉🏍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Marc, NO... my beautiful R1250GS Rallye is staying !!!
      I still have a long list of topics ( which subscribers have asked for) that I wish to cover on the 1250 version, and that is going to take quite some time to complete. So maybe 2025/6
      However.... when the M1300GS comes out i will be having a very very close look. Smile
      Best wishes Carl
      Greetings !!!

  • @dominichayes9808
    @dominichayes9808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative, thanks

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!, Carl

  • @johnlundrgren6814
    @johnlundrgren6814 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. I've been riding for a very long time. I'm a life learner. In all things. I've been told I'm voracious about learning. I'm voracious about unlearning. I recently suffered a very bad back injury which took me off the motorcycle for an extended period of time. I took a very short ride just yesterday to touch up on some skills. After a little bit of practice was stopping and some loose gravel situations I decided to go ahead and take a pleasant ride and check out the fall colors. I was struggling on a road that I know very well that has very tight twisties, off camber 180s, The whole nine yards. The whole time I knew it was all my head getting in the way.
    The universe put this video in front of me this morning. So thank you, and the universe. I forgot how to enter a corner. 🤣
    Side note. Anytime somebody ask me anything I always seem to send them after discussing that topic with them to your TH-cam channel. Old Harley riders, new guys that want to get out and ride sport bikes. I tell them all. You're a fantastic source of knowledge, insights and most importantly an inspiration to practice ³

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John, thank you for your message, we all continue to learn even as we get older. It’s great to hear your back out on the road well done! And as I know very well back problems on are not easy to cope with.
      Kindest regards Carl

  • @scottcunningham7172
    @scottcunningham7172 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great help. Thanks Carl

  • @bman1340
    @bman1340 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello and thank you for the great video. Have you done (or do you know of a...) a video on the menu operation for all the rider options? So much to learn! 🙂

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Bman, thank you 🙏. I have a 3 parts series on the channel about dynamic ESA which covers most things, the 1300 menus are slightly different and I will have a video later in early summer about it.
      Currently still waiting on BMW clarifying some the actual modes as the owners book is not so great.
      Kind regards Carl

  • @castigo1986
    @castigo1986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a wonderfully insightful overview, thank you. As a 2017 1200gs owner, I appreciate thoroughness of your comparison and I do share all your praises and niggles with the bike (would a stop light be so difficult to integrate, or the switchgear? How about having open source or really more customizable software for the dash?). I also would have preferred a more easily accessible oil filter position (or maybe not an internal oil filter)... But that's a home mechanic problem!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello and thank you for your feedback, there is a lot to like on the new bike and I’m sure BMW are going to be busy with test rides. Yes area’s could have been better updated but only bmw know why they do these things.
      Carl

  • @rockyk3973
    @rockyk3973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Carl. Great first pass on the important features of the bike. Very good explanation on how the rider will experience the new bike versus the 1250. Many reviewers other than you, have missed the fact that the damping setting within each of the modes can be individually configured to one of five settings. I watched over half a dozen or more reviews before any other reviewer mentioned that and, it was only one of them other than you that did.
    One thing you left out with regards to suspension is that the new DSA system has a second spring in each shock allowing for the actual spring rate (not preload mind you, specifically spring rate) to change with the riding mode selection. The engagement of the second spring (sitting in what looks like an elongated shock fluid reservoir) per my understanding, is engaged and its effect is controlled hydraulically.
    For those that are performance oriented when it comes to suspension, the fact that damping is user configurable within each mode and, that the mode changes themselves actively change the spring rate too, is a big deal. The spring rate selected per mode as I understand it, is factory pre-set though and not configurable (i.e. unlike the damping, there is no user configuration for spring rate changes other than the factory default inherent in selecting a given riding mode).
    One more thing, for short riders like me, the adaptive ride height front and rear is also a big deal. Shorter riders like myself ( I currently have a low ride height 1250GSA) no longer have to permanently give up suspension travel just in order to be able to get our feet down reasonably comfortably at a stop. I hope that the combination of the more slender rear subframe/seat you mentioned plus the adaptive ride height and the available low seat option will in fact be the game changer for shorter riders that it portends to be.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Rocky, thank you for your in-depth comment, with regards to the other suspension features.
      I actively decided not to talk about this in the first episode for 2 reasons
      1: the video was already long and I felt it would be too much technical talk for a first review. Also many owners are not really interested in the technology they just want to know the bike works and performs well, so a balance needs to be found.
      2: I hope to have 1 possibly 2 other bikes to test during which I will have more technical explanations about the new systems, but to do this I need time, not just 3 days, I need a bike for several weeks to create such content.
      I’ve made this crystal clear to BMW and it’s now up to them to provide a bike for a longer test period.
      However you are absolutely right it’s a major enhancement that really deserves more focus and owners really should have an understanding of how important this is.
      No idea why the other testers didn’t talk about this as for me it’s key to the success of the the new R1300GS.
      Thank you for sharing and your feedback very much appreciated
      Kindest regards Carl

    • @rockyk3973
      @rockyk3973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the response Carl. I can understand that not everyone wants to know about or cares about technical details that are perhaps best discussed separately and in greater detail once more time can be had to explore their implications.
      Another reviewer just recently made the observation that the new GS is not really one bike but can in fact be a very different bike ergonomically and with respect to its suitability or lack thereof for given rider's preference and mission. That is, it can be, depending upon which options one chooses to purchase and how one configures the suspension and other electronics. The 1300 GS I plan to end up with will likely be noticeably different from riders with other missions and, just as importantly, whose physical stature is different than mine.
      I enjoy my 2019 1250 GSA for all its versatility but have come to learn after all the miles that I have put on it, that for me, the sportier side of the sport touring equation is really where my heart is. When I bought it 4+ years ago, I would have been happy with just touring on it but, having discovered it was capable of quite sporty riding on the street, my expectations for the next generation bike were raised. Dirt capability is and always was, pretty far down the list for me with my existing GS. Anticipating the eye rolling from some Adventure purists, I personally see no contradiction in this because it is such a versatile and enjoyable platform "just" as a street bike - with no Adventure Bike pretensions. For context, I have a few years experience riding full on dirt bikes. I also recently spent 2 days at the BMW Performance Center off-road riding class in South Carolina riding a 1250GS. I highly recommend that for anyone, that is whether or not they intend do much if any off roading. It will improve riding skills and confidence on the bike noticeably and, it offers a deeper appreciation for its versatility. (And, when you drop the bike as you undoubtedly will, multiple times, there is zero liability. If the bike you are using gets broken they simply get you another one to ride.)
      I hope BMW comes through with longer term test bikes for you. I very much look forward to your further in depth reviews of the 1300GS.
      -Rocky
      @@justthewayitis

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Rocky, good morning
      I do agree that this new platform can be tailored to several completely different formats, and like you…the sports touring setup is indeed where I like to be.
      I have heard good things about the BMW off-road classes so perhaps I will try one next season.
      I do hope I get the opportunity to test other variants and have enough time to put together some interesting technical episodes, it’s now up to BMW.
      I’ve passed my thoughts onto the team in Munich along with suggestions to fix the lack to buttons/ controls on the handlebars , which could be easily done via a software update to add LONG PRESS features to some buttons.
      How they choose to respond to this feedback…. Smile… I just don’t yet know.
      Carl

  • @Redsmeg68
    @Redsmeg68 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative I have been toying with the 1250 v 1300 v Tiger 1200 and this is very informative. May hold out for the adventure spec. One thing missing from BMW website is a comparison between there models, that might be useful to show in a video

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Red, thank you 🙏 and thank you for your suggestion, the GSA next year will be very interesting 🙋🏻‍♂️
      Carl

  • @vinceskalicky8313
    @vinceskalicky8313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    fantastic video. I have a Triumph Tiger 800 and have been considering the 1250 but after this video, I might bee looking at a 1300. But I do like the design of the 1250 more. The 1300 looks tame, like a Honda. Great video, thank you.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Vince and welcome to the channel, thank you for your feedback, it’s probably the perfect time to go to your dealership and look and test both models and see which you prefer, because I would imagine there are going to be a lot of fully spec 1250 1 - 2 year old version being taken in part exchange and the dealership won’t want them hanging around, so it’s a great time to find an almost new low mileage 1250.
      But you might like all the technology and new dynamic feel of the new R1300 GS.
      Lucky you with such a choice
      Let me know what you decide to buy
      Regards Carl

  • @user-xo1pj7zt4k
    @user-xo1pj7zt4k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The removal of those buttons for suspension and heating was certainly an oversight. Even in hot countries the heating is useful. Having to navigate through a menu to change damping on the fly when the corners come up will be unpleasant.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes totally agree, Carl

    • @drewyager4020
      @drewyager4020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Back light the controls and bring the buttons back. Don’t go the way of the cars

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree, lets hope BMW listen and make some changes for the R1300GSA version, Carl

  • @KrithiCarCare
    @KrithiCarCare 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely Review.

  • @1johnrambobo262
    @1johnrambobo262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looking forward to trying it out (probably next week) as I’m coming from an elder 1200. There’s going to be quite a gap I suppose!

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John, yes the change between 1200 and 1300 is going to be fairly large, do go for a good test ride and spend time with the sales team finding out which accessories are right for you and the type of riding you do.
      I wish you lots of fun on your road test.
      best wishes carl

  • @thereviloza
    @thereviloza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the content. Think i stik to the beast 1250 for now

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @billreynolds2221
    @billreynolds2221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I must have gotten an exceptional gearbox in my 1250. Whether the bike is cold or hot, when I engage 1st gear, the only sensation I experience is an audible one. A simple click with no abrupt movement. Best gearbox I've ever had. Clutch pull is minimal and shifting through the gears is effortless and buttery smooth. If the new bike is better it would have to have an automatic transmission but who would want that.

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It sounds like your gearbox was built by the master tech on a Monday morning, lucky you 🙋🏻‍♂️ … if only the rest of us had one like that.
      Best wishes Carl 👍

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your thoughts on the options !!
    I must admit , this will by my sixth GS ..
    I tend to tick all the options - but this time, I was curious about buying a base model !! 😮

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well let us know what you order, all four models look nice. Carl

  • @markdean9679
    @markdean9679 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Carl, I personally think the GS looks great, I have the triple black but yours also looks stunning. But as you say it's personal

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Mark thank you 🙏, don’t get me wrong I love my GS ❤️

  • @barrielast9376
    @barrielast9376 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for an interesting evaluation of the new 1300. Please give us a little longer to read the text inserts. Keep up the good work 👍

    • @justthewayitis
      @justthewayitis  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Barrie, thank you for your feedback, I’ll make a note 🙏